Christopher Hitchens destroys Christian ethics and morality

This is from Poison or Cure - Religious Belief in the Modern World
Christopher Hitchens debates.

[@holydiver1376]

I swear I learn a new word almost every time I listen to Hitch

[@truth5705]

a lot of his followers don't know many words, more of them are illiterate all together

[@kevriley3255]

Arrogant and wrong.

[@JPX7NGD]

and all of them are wrong.

[@kenshiloh]

Unless Hitch had serious turn about with God, he is screaming in hell right now, regretting every foolish word that he uttered. God is good; Hitch was not! Christ died on a Cross so that we may know Him. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

[@JPX7NGD]

@@kenshiloh hitchens did outlive his atheism at least.

[@no-oneman.4140]

What a mind, what a wordsmith, what a man.

[@AlcibiadesMD]

I'm your 80 like.

[@JPX7NGD]

he was ev1l in every respect.

[@JPX7NGD]

he was forgotten less than 5 minutes after he fell into hll.

[@TonyEnglandUK]

@@JPX7NGD If that were true, you wouldn't be here talking about him thirteen years after he passed away. Go back to your book with a talking bush in it, the adults are typing here.

[@JPX7NGD]

@@TonyEnglandUK he's USEFUL to a certain group, but not remembered.

[@MutualAidWorks]

People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupefy themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy - Mikhail Bakunin.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Not why I meet with my fellows.

[@mensetens6391]

Ah, yes, an anarchist and revolutionary, just the kind of expert we want on any number of subjects.

[@MrKit9]

@castroy64 you've posted the same thing many times. It's you who are obsessed my little Jesus liar.

[@bdflatlander]

Your comment is akin to what the Communists said about religion (and one of the relatively few things it got right): religion is an opiate for the masses. Some people use drugs and alcohol to try and escape from their earthly problems - others delude and brainwash themselves with religion. They believe in an invisible man in the sky who listens to your prayers and is actively involved in the affairs of mankind.

[@frenchy16785]

That is deeply offensive to those of us who love the pub

[@vardellsfolly5200]

I miss him. Damn, i truly miss him.

[@wadesharp11]

He always calls everyone his brothers and sisters🤗🕺🏼💃

[@lmnop1022]

We rarely hear any of Hitchens' addresses on TV. I wonder why not.

[@krissysspice4lifem.o.lskin801]

Has hutchmes ever giving a speech about how the cult religions which is all religions and all who follow any religion --- had he ever talked about how they call anyone who cares about innocent children racist! It's insane this.. I see decade after decade this is their thing! I'd like to view it let me know if he has... Anyone! Please!

[@tommytillery4973]

The beauty of casting your sins on the death of Jesus is you can do this a thousand or more times as long as you want and still make it to heaven as long as you cast off sins minutes or seconds before your death. Pity the Christian that did this for 60 plus years of their life and suddenly died at age 61 before casting all sins on God(or Jesus if you prefer). This is exactly why Christian pastors go to a person who is on their death bed to encourage the person to make their last attempt to cast all sins on God before the last breath and so the family can later say they will see them in heaven if only they make the capitulation of casting their sins on God before their last breath. What happens to a life long Christian who gets shot, killed instantly by some horrific accident or suddenly dies of heart attack before they cast any and all recent sins since their last casting of sins on God. We all sin and come short of God's grace; but no record from God how often we sin while awake or sleeping.

[@timhyatt9185]

how is it moral, for a person who's lived their life exploiting others, murdering, stealing, etc....but at the last minute, confesses his sins and accepts jesus, and thus the pass into Heaven, while a non-believer who spends his life feeding the poor, sheltering the homeless, caring for the sick, but never confesses or accepts jesus, and so spends an eternity in a lake of fire... How is that in any way shape or form, moral???? and worse...you can be convicted of thought crime under this belief....for just THINKING of donig things, or not thinking the "right way"...... again, where is the morality here??

[@tyranta.devillier1791]

I miss my pagan Greek and Roman ancestors

[@danielbergmann7353]

I would pay a lot of money to watch a good willed discussion between him and C S Lewis

[@TheAdeleLonestar]

Morality is innate. As I and many others are a decent example of. I am sad ... I really am, that you feel it isn't the same for you. It's sorrowful to me that someone only has morals, or wishes to do "right" or "be good" when an authority figure is watching. I don't know what else to say to you. :(

[@sekitiphaladi3790]

If there's HELL it shall INDEED be a WONDERFUL experience to the stones!!

[@zqxzqxzqx1]

How I miss this man...

[@JACKnJESUS]

PureFlix commercial on a Hitchens video ..... I think Hitch would have enjoyed the irony.

[@TonguesDeFuego1]

The atheist world view: we don’t know how we got here; we don’t know what we’re doing here; and death is the most powerful force in the universe, more powerful than love.

[@donaldvanvliet9039]

Christopher Culpepper not sure what exactly you mean with death is more powerful than love, but unlike love, death kills you...

[@TonguesDeFuego1]

Donald Vanvliet that’s exactly my point. For the atheist, death is the most powerful force in the universe because, for the atheist, everything ends in death. Therefore, for the atheist, in the end, death is a more powerful force than love.

[@donaldvanvliet9039]

@@TonguesDeFuego1 in the end it is, during our life it isn't. Atheïsts don't need to be bribed with a possible entrance in heaven to love and be good on earth.

[@TonguesDeFuego1]

Donald Vanvliet that’s still the point. If love and goodness end in death, without the hope of everlasting life, then death is the most powerful force in the universe and love and goodness - whatever they may mean for the atheist - are futile at best, pointless at worst, and have no real meaning.

[@donaldvanvliet9039]

@@TonguesDeFuego1 I don't understand how you can say the love/goodness of two atheïsts for each other is futile/pointless/meaningless... you are conflating the big and the small picture. Let's flip this around : is the love of a christian for his wife only meaningful if that love is given in the hope of keeping him out of hell and sending him to heaven ? Sounds like conditional love...what's so great about that ?

[@MyVictor73]

It is a big confusion here. The Bible is a chance for a person to find his reason and path in life. Here are presented some small games of logics and understanding. Is a big confusion.

[@schmetterling4477]

So what does the talking donkey mean in your life? Please explain in great length and detail. ;-)

[@MyVictor73]

@schmetterling4477 all the details are already written at enough length. There is no need to discover the wheel. However, length is longer than few phrases on internet.

[@schmetterling4477]

​@@MyVictor73 Dude, you don't even have the courage to discuss your beliefs? Then they are worthless trash. Please get a life. :-)

[@MichaelAU-AG]

the doctrine of vicarious redemption by human sacrifice. WOW he was good

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

What you don't know is what he is saying now. Here's a hint: Luke 16:19-31

[@richardlorych9868]

roflmao!

[@6chhelipilot]

You, of course, understand it all too well. 'The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.' - Bertrand Russel. Question everything!

[@GOBIAS.INDUSTRIES.]

AAH Replies I don't think the people who think the sacrifice is symbolic or allegorical are the folks we're worrying about. Your entire statement is nearly pointless. It's like when believers try to say that Jesus was being symbolic when he told followers to bring nonbelievers and kill them at his feet. That's all fine and dandy, but tell that to the people taking it literally and killing people because of it.

[@GOBIAS.INDUSTRIES.]

AAH Replies And not to mention the absolute laughability of saying that Hitchens appeals to those who "need things laid out for them." That's hilarious! I suppose you're also the believing type to say such gems as: "Atheism takes more faith than god" or "You can't be moral without god"... Seriously, what is scripture if it isn't a doctrine that lays out EVERYTHING for you?? This is beyond hypocrisy...

[@rohitkavikondala7652]

IF god exists...it would be proud of Hitchens.

[@JPX7NGD]

God Is Jealous Of His Children, He Protects Us.

[@JPX7NGD]

this is like saying a bear would be proud of what attacks his cubs.

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

@@JPX7NGD Jealous? That word does not mean what you think it means.

[@JPX7NGD]

@@jamesmaybrick2001 Jealous - Fierce Protector.

[@JPX7NGD]

@@jamesmaybrick2001 I'm using the ACTUAL Ancient Definition as Scripture uses.

[@cevinladd23]

I think i just found my new favorite person

[@LeoWhalen1933]

Welcome! I wish I knew about him when he was alive...

[@sonnyroy497]

A fascinating person

[@2wolfsfightinsideyou]

You need to grow more, this man deceived you all the way to the kitchen.

[@2wolfsfightinsideyou]

@Englebert Humperdink I'm not sure you're eager to hear another opinion but your own, Christopher Hitchens, jew, Dawkins, jew, Harris, jew, Maher, jew, Carl Sagan, jew, Isaac Asimov, jew, I hope that caught your attention.

[@dj33036]

@@2wolfsfightinsideyou Are Jews not allowed to have opinions?

[@UnknownGenius01]

This man is brilliant.

[@Andulsi]

+Dary Matera he s not a scientist...ask a scientist about evolution...they re the ones to talk to...

[@UnknownGenius01]

Dary Matera Even if that were true, it is still better than anything your fictional character up in the sky did.

[@DaryMatera]

+UnknownGenius01 : A superior being has the ability to build and create. Man mirrors that everyday. A goo pool turning into a human? That's your better theory? Please enlightened us as to how that works?

[@Andulsi]

go read a science book and quit strawmanning the theory

[@DaryMatera]

+Andulsi : Translation: You don't have a clue what I'm referring to, so you reference a random "science book" where you think the answers you don't have might be. I've read, and written, science books. The answers aren't there, because they don't exist. Life springing from inanimate objects is anti-science. It's a ridiculous concept that only the smallest of minds support. And get a dictionary. You used the term "strawmanning" incorrectly.

[@esands36]

We need more like Carlin, Dawkins and Hitchens.

[@alesplut6209]

... Dennet ... Barker ... Sweeney ...

[@TheBox225]

@Daniel De saint malo have you listened to Sam Harris?

[@samosmond2375]

I'm coming x

[@veronicats100]

Actually what we need are people that will listen to these ideas and be smart enough to understand them. Most of the people in the world today are capable of neither.

[@randyelliott9152]

@@alesplut6209 Carl Sagan....

[@Olyphantman]

“Celestial Dictatorship” WOW that pretty much sums it up

[@quantumplaterjohn3169]

Do you believe in absolute or relative morality?

[@alesplut6209]

Yeah, but this "Celestial Dictatorship" was made up to uphold real religious dictatorship on Earth, which makes it even worse!

[@quantumplaterjohn3169]

@Sticky Steve Where does your objective morality come from?

[@quantumplaterjohn3169]

@Sticky Steve A god is the only way to reach objective morality. If you don't believe in a god, where does your objective morality come from?

[@quantumplaterjohn3169]

@Sticky Steve Please restate the example you are referring to.

[@charlesdahmital8095]

If you are incapable of knowing that which is moral- How can you know if your god is?

[@JPX7NGD]

Goodness Refers To All That God Creates All To Be: Rightly Ordered.

[@JPX7NGD]

Morality Is The Act Of Being Responsible.

[@LindaStevensBZ]

Religion in all its forms has been circling the toilet bowl for centuries...like a maddeningly buoyant turd.

[@nofascistideologies8742]

I sometimes tell the religious that they are circling the drain in the shallow end of the gene pool, but I might have to steal some of your material.

[@chriscole9667]

Such eloquence and imagery, I am impressed. May I offer one of my own in exchange! Prayer: - self-medicating delusional tranquilizer (Category Placebo )

[@inglesyeses]

merry Hitchmas

[@JoeSmith-hv7oe]

I love your comment and I don't know why.

[@taroman7100]

Oh, he'd love that!

[@xerox1959]

Excellent speech from Christopher Hitchens. The courage to speak out against religious madness. For centuries all religions of this world have brought suffering on humans.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Courage? Hitchens always preaches to friendly audiences. He preaches the religion of this world to the vast majority of this world. The overwhelming majority, from the unwashed ignorant to the effete of the atheist snobs, accept him as a high priest of atheism. He fortifies their fervent hope that they won't have to account to God for how they have lived their lives. No, you have it completely backwards. It takes courage to expose what an unscientific hoax evolution is, to demonstrate that evolution has no cause and effect basis as all things scientific must, to point out that there cannot be "natural selection" of things that don't exist. No, on the contrary, it takes courage to show atheists who violently resist the unwelcome truth that evolution is the religion of the blindly irrational. To attempt to show the truth to an evolutionist is like addressing a rabid lynch mob with a blood lust. Hitchens always had a friendly audience where ever he preached, because Christians are commanded to argue fact, not lynch. Evolutionists on the other hand are not constrained by ethics - murdering, lying, cheating, stealing, whatever helps you survive while others unaided die - is condoned by atheism.

[@MrAlsfan5]

David Parker There has never been any sign, throughout history, of any great god looking after everyone. It's all the same boring banal teachings of religious bumpkins trying to get rich off of deluded flocks who want to believe in something.

[@silentotto5099]

David Parker Aaaaah Shaddaup. You don't know what you're on about, you stupid git. And, before you start whining that I didn't address you're points, you've written nothing that you didn't pull from deep in the recesses of your posterior and which requires any sort of thoughtful response. To suggest that Hitchen's only spoke before friendly crowds is utter rubbish. He spent the last couple of years of his life deliberately seeking out believers and debating the best and brightest of them... If one can use the terms "best and brightest" to describe religious apologists. That you lie so freely about the basis and nature of the Theory of Evolution and what does or does not constrain atheists is ample evidence of how completely devoid of any ethical constraints you yourself are. You're nothing but a brain washed minion of superstitious zealots, devoid of any intellect, morality and shame. And, you're LOSING the debate. Suck on that before you do us all a big favor and drop dead.

[@6chhelipilot]

"that after having seen the sort of people they attracted in the comments section as supporters, I was rather glad I was not, as it were 'on their side'." God forbid that you should be offended in a world so completely absent of religious nutcases.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

So sorry you never heard a good teacher. There is no excuse, however, for not reading what they had to say. The problem with evolutionists is their ignorance. Except for a very few, Dawkins comes to mind, none are aware of just what it is they claim just popped into existence without any physical cause (to the abysmally ignorant, "chance" is not a force). If you want to pretend you are scientific, here are some scientists who argue from their scholarship in the physical sciences: Creation.com , ICR.org

[@UndersoundNZ]

Religion is slowing us down

[@JPX7NGD]

What are you trying to get to? your grave? careful, you might get it. Repent while you can.

[@bfg3890]

@@JPX7NGD Yes yes repent or your all-loving God will send you to burn in hell... THAT'S LOVE. Get help freak.

[@emptybucket1988]

​@@JPX7NGD 😂

[@kenshiloh]

I agree. The religion of atheism is killing the planet. Now, instead of Christ's "Love your neighbor," we have Darwin's "Law of the Jungle." In fact, I recently saw "The Darwin Awards" on a middle school bookshelf. If you are not familiar, the book laughs at the deaths of 'stupid' people, the underlying philosophy being that the human race is made stronger when the inferior, 'stupid' people die. It is a sick book, something akin to Nazi Germany and the extermination of Jews. Whoever wrote that book, their condemnation before God is just. What about you? How will you do when you stand before God? Have you lied and stolen? If so, then you would be tried as a lying thief. God has nothing to do with lying thieves! Be careful lest, in God's good and right anger, He throws you out of heaven to howl with other lying thieves for all eternity. I know you will love your Creator. You can know Him! He died on a Cross for that very purpose. Ask and you shall receive! Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

[@DarkKnight_Rules]

​@@JPX7NGD repent to what, a god that doesn't even exist? Yeah, no thank you

[@phoenixrising2609]

I found Christopher Hitchens after he passed away but Goddamn I'm glad I did, though I wish it was otherwise... we miss you, you were one of a kind

[@healthyone100]

did he die or did god kill him!

[@alesplut6209]

@@healthyone100, do you know the answer to this question?

[@TheAvenstar]

Not to worry. If you stay the course you're on, you'll be spending your eternity with him ...and it won't be heavenly.

[@zer-op2gq]

@@TheAvenstar what a wonderfully loving thing to say.

[@TheAvenstar]

@@zer-op2gq the truth is always "loving" whether it is popular or not. Comfortable "little white lies" may seem loving in the short term but they are all injurious eventually.

[@ateoforever7434]

Do you know that, if you buy a calendar in Italy, for every day of the year there is a name that happens to be a saint...like, Saint Mark, Saint Simon, etc.. how all this names just happens to be Saint ? 355 + of them ?? what they have done to be Saint ? Christianity is a joke !!

[@ingriddubbel8468]

Look it up. There have to be criteria to cannonize people. In not saying the reasons are logical but there is a process for canonization.

[@ateoforever7434]

@@ingriddubbel8468 I guess that two with the same name can't be put on a calendar....first in , first served...but i think it's a joke the fact that, a few cardinals " decide " on who can become " saint "... suddenly a halo appears on the head of George....now St. George, what a lot of BS !

[@roems6396]

Ingrid Dubbel Yes but their canonization process is erroneous, and beatifies people who are clearly not great humans.

[@Genesy91]

Usually they were noble and rich people who gave money to the pope or built churches.

[@SeriouslyNotNormal]

Funnily enough i was a christian until i read the Bible

[@MasterSpade]

+SeriouslyNotNormal --- That was true with me too. I'd bet for most of us. This quote is so true: “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” - Isaac Asimov

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Asimov wrote fiction.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

You never made it through Leviticus.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Then you were never a Christian. 1 John 2: 18-19 "Little children, it is the last time, and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now there are many Antichrists: whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us: for if they had been of us, they should have continued with us. But this cometh to pass, that it might appear, that they are not all of us."

[@jameswest8280]

The old no true Scotsman fallacy.

[@barclayv8282]

All of the arguments for religion in these posts would have gone up in flames had the writers attempted the same BS debating him. You all sound the same and your justifications are quite literally flawed beyond reason.

[@mensetens6391]

for example...?

[@user-pv7pk5nh3k]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKKro6N4hcmnias not all scientists agree with materialism.. don't believe every thing All scientists claim to have proof or no proof of . I was born into a cult religion. Didn't stop me from wanting to know what is the truth

[@AlirezaAliabadi]

World is missing this great man. I cannot watch Hitchens videos without breaking in tears knowing that he is not with us anymore.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Hitchens is shedding a few of his own right now. I don't miss that pompous ass at all. Tears? You are an inconsistent materialist atheist.

[@nl2766]

So sorry

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Yes. Everyone who agreed to attack the people of Iraq is a murderer at heart. Of all the peoples to attack, Saddam Hussein and his Ba'ath party were the most dedicated enemies of the Taliban and Al Queda. It is analogous to the US attacking China after Pearl Harbor.

[@tyranta.devillier1791]

He hated your stupid religion

[@ateoforever7434]

@@DavidParker-cf2km Hitchens showed you the TRUTH...and that hurts...right..??

[@applicableapple3991]

If god is so powerful, why do Christians keep giving him money?

[@DigitalPadawan]

how else would they settle the rape charges?

[@iandhr1]

"He needs money. He always needs Money. He is all-wise all perfect, all-knowing, somehow just can't handle money." - George Carlin.

[@bfg3890]

@Daniel De saint malo Ask your church to open the books and see how much is going to charity and the upkeep of the Church and how much goes to enriching the church leadership. Go on I dare you.

[@bfg3890]

@Daniel De saint malo well you keep funding corruption. Your God would be so proud.

[@bfg3890]

@Daniel De saint malo Well if you want to contribute to events run by corrupt people that's your business. Personally, I think you are morally bankrupt to support those people. And what about politicians. For starters I don't choose to pay tax I'm required to by law and I buy nothing from politicians during elections, money does not change hands. So you are talking absolute rubbish. And really politicians are bad so that makes you giving money to your corrupt church ok? Wow, you really have no moral compass, do you.

[@Lopfff]

*tears* Oh Hiiiitch! I miss you Hitch! *tears tears*

[@jmmacb03]

♥♥♥ >sob

[@originalname4972]

He’s in hell. 😎

[@mickrise]

@@originalname4972 You xtians are so unlike your god. Figures.

[@MutualAidWorks]

The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth - Mikhail Bakunin.

[@Harsha-il8vw]

@castroy64 I love you. I mean I love your one sided argument. I bashed in another comment too. I also included crimes by religion in the name of God.

[@Harsha-il8vw]

@castroy64and I love religious assholes trying to distance themselves from their past.

[@66Viscount]

Every time I watch Christopher on KZbin I think about how much he is missed and how I would have loved to hear his views on some of the world events that he sadly did not live long enough to see.

[@lindaadhola4514]

You mean he is dead ? Thank God for raking him early .......he could have mislead soooo many

[@66Viscount]

Yes, he died ( see google or other available search engines). At least he could speak english well and could spell all the words correctly in a 17 word sentence. I think Christopher would have found it mildly amusing.

[@lindaadhola4514]

@@66Viscount well ..... I get the humour , you don't get the seriousness of the issue , for all we pray.

[@lindabowman2139]

Well, there are SO MANY deities to choose from.....where to start... or....perhaps develop a new one and become amazingly rich!! Now there's an idea...!!! Or....Just live and enjoy this life on earth what has been evolving for millions of years... Yes you will be reborn...ashes help the earth if cremated, if buried your remains also helps regenerate the earth...am happy with that as should everyone.

[@SCQT]

had to give that thumbnail a click favorite human

[@michaellawlor5625]

Great talker, but he is way off. Where does he get his morals from?

[@reason5591]

@@michaellawlor5625 being a christian and or swallowing the mythical kool aid does not necessarily make you moral or bring one morality. My very own grandfather was the perfect example of this. A man of high morals and integrity as well, that was the "oak tree" of our family. I find your statement ignorant, judgemental and totally lacking truth.

[@zer-op2gq]

@Marxine St.Arline okay I'll think about it. How did the teachings of the bible teach me the immorality of the bible? I'm opposed to slavery, genocide, and feel females deserve to be treated better then livestock. I assume we both hold these things to be moral, but neither of us arrived at this biblically. Also a side note of China abolishing slavery before Christianity doing so.

[@MrRhomas913]

"Compulsory love is another sickly element of Christianity" - classic Hitchens (I miss the guy). In one stroke he adds a little of Old Testament eye-for-an-eye to his acceptance of innate morality and thoroughly rejects forgiveness. Rejects the two seminal catholic doctrines in one sentence: love your neighbor as yourself and that forgiveness is better.

[@stevenrivard9246]

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[@josefschmeau4682]

Yet he defends Stalin

[@mensetens6391]

_Compulsory love is another sickly element of Christianity" - classic Hitchens_ No, just nicked from Nietzsche. Nothing Hitch said was original or right.

[@JPX7NGD]

hitchens is in hll.

[@JPX7NGD]

Love Is To Will the Good Of the Other As other.

[@markwilliams974]

You know where this leads us? It means after we die there is nothing. Just like before we were born. I'm OK with that. Are you?

[@TheAvenstar]

You better hope you're right. But, hey you've got a 50/50 shot. Good luck. If you come up wrong, you get the big OOPS! forever.

[@TheAvenstar]

@The Wizard of Whatever Ok, sounds complex. I'll elaborate: one chance out of two. REALLY -- there being no 3rd option available since the proof rendered by Parmenides in the 5th century BC (sorry about that inconvenient abbreviation) that one either exists or does not exist eternally has never been refuted by the greatest minds that have ever lived from Aristotle to Zarathustra including [but not limited to] Dionysus, Einstein, Tesla, Hume and Kant ...and which assemblage of great minds, unfortunately, does not include one C. Hitchens, however esteemed he may be in your mind.

[@TheAvenstar]

@The Wizard of Whatever Please help me. I'm seriously confused, it seems. Kindly present the the third option beside : A. Hell exists. or B. Hell does not exist. Thank you. (Kindly omit hypotheticals or we'll be here until we figure out whether or not mice can evolve into baseball bats.)

[@TheAvenstar]

@The Wizard of Whatever I am not sure I understand your logic, but have no wish to argue. Thank you for your input. Just an aside: if the existence of hell (or heaven, or God for that matter) is a delusion for fools only, then well over 95% of all human beings who've ever lived are fools -- perhaps as high as 99%. I'll say one thing: That makes Hitchens one REALLY SMART COOKIE! ... or one of the most arrogant dumbbells who ever lived.

[@TheAvenstar]

@The Wizard of Whatever And a good one to you too, sir, as well as thanks for some respectful dialogue.

[@adonais81]

God creates evil. Apparently. Isaiah 45:7

[@Kwin9]

There are some really angry Christians around. Can any of you explain to me how Christianity provides morality?

[@philc5499]

Human sacrifice.

[@philc5499]

And I am not angry, not now anyway.

[@jandrews6254]

Phil C excuse me, was that supposed to explain how christianity provides morality? Human sacrifice! I do hope i misunderstood your comment

[@user-fb2jb3gz1d]

They are not actual practicing christians They all cherry pick to whom their neighbor is

[@davidalexander5495]

Morality is an objective criterion for judging whether an action is right and wrong. If there is not a transcendent (i.e. God) source of morality, there is no objective morality. If there is no objective morality, there is no positive law. If there is no positive law, there is no civilization.

[@davidsirmons]

Entirely agreed. This is something I've realized since I was about 15.

[@mensetens6391]

So you're telling everybody that you still think like a 15-year-old?

[@user-pv7pk5nh3k]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKKro6N4hcmnias Watch with an open mind

[@llamaliammm]

@@mensetens6391 he literally didnt say that. What appalling misrepresentation expected of your kind. Tell me, in the same frame of fallacious logic of yours, that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing? What ridiculous casuistry i say.

[@pulsegamin4790]

@@mensetens6391 No he is telling you that even as a teenager he has better critical thinking skills than you and other religious morons around the world

[@mensetens6391]

@@llamaliammm _Tell me, in the same frame of fallacious logic of yours, that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing_ False Equivalence Fallacy. He said: _This is something I've realized since I was about 15_ Not something to boast about since teens are notorious for bad thinking. If he's still thinking that way, then he's still thinking like a 15-year-old. You, on the other hand, have nothing like that to quote from me. You have to invent a comparison, but did it badly since it makes no sense: _that means you have a mentality of a one year old since most religious individuals are religious due to their upbringing?_ Sorry? Did I say that? Did I mention an age? Did you even define 'religion'? No? then how do you know that we are talking about the same thing (hint: you don't)? 'Most people' leaves out some. What of those who became Christians as adults? Or those who became Christians from another religion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZynqHariauIfck As it was, I was not raised a Christian, so your 'most people' fails the standard of fact. Sorry, your comparison was weak and mentally flatulent. _What ridiculous casuistry i say_ Then you are wrong again. Better casuistry than your stupidity, but not casuistry, either.

[@unohoncho7727]

Anyone else learning new words just listening to him ? I need to keep searching for the meaning of words to understand the argument and I thought my English was good ? Lol

[@Letmeberhereinurheart]

But of course, fear is the essence of authority when it comes to religion.

[@picklesandcheese25]

Interesting username lol.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Love is the essence of Christianity.

[@kawasakiwhiptwo5821]

Well put.

[@mrcurly1147]

Was love involved in Pennsylvania, with all those depraved holy men diddling little boys?? Three hundred priests!! And all covered up by the church higher ups!!! That's love is it?? If you support that, you are as guilty as the weenies in the church.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Of course not. Exploitation is never "love". Furthermore what is your basis for assuming that the Roman Catholic church and hierarchy are even Christian? They still hold to the articles of the Council of Trent in which they to this day deny the complete sufficiency of Jesus's sacrifice of himself for the sins of his elect past, present, and future. Salvation on the basis of the sufficiency of Jesus's propitiatory sacrifice is the very essence of Christianity, it is the Good News - the Gospel. But there is a far more insidious institution that covers up child molestation and protects the molesters: "One study from Hofstra University laments that while there are a number of federally funded national studies on child sexual abuse, there are none that document educator sexual abuse. Gleaning what it can from related studies and databases, this report notes that 9.6 percent of students grades 8 to 11 have reported sexual abuse, and 21 percent of these alleged abuses are by educators. This represents roughly (by my quick math) about 300,000 cases of sexual abuse. Other sources confirm this problem is big-“far more common” than you want to believe. Further, just like the Catholic problem, public schools “continue to conceal the actions of dangerous educators in ways that allow them to stay in the classroom.” Further, one study says that between 1 and 5 percent of teachers sexually harass or abuse students. Given that there are 3.2 million school teachers, those numbers represent between 32,000 and 160,000 predators in the schools. Despite this startling problem being laid before the U.S. Department of Education in a 2004 study entitled, “Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of the Literature,” it was related to me that there are no updated stats or studies. Despite the overwhelming indications, there have been no national or even statewide studies of student experiences of educator sexual misconduct. Fifteen years have gone by since this study!" americanvision.org/16723/the-big-double-standard-on-child-sex-abuse-no-one-is-talking-about/

[@tedgrant2]

I cannot walk on water. I suspect you can't either. In novels, however, anything is possible,. Dead people can rise up out of their graves. People can ride dinosaurs.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

And yet they were healthier than we are today. Them lived under conditions that would kill most of the people in the civilized world today. No dead people ever rose up out of their graves: They were raised at the command of God. Only Fred Flintstone and Barney rode dinosaurs. Mankind was created the same day as the land animals which included the dinosaurs. Adam, Eve, and all animals in the land and sea ate plants: There was no death until Adam intentionally and directly sinned against God.

[@JR-st3mp]

@@DavidParker-cf2km Oh yeah? Prove it.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

@hatter00 Look in the mirror to see an idiot. It is rare that anyone lives to be 100 these days. Yet is was common for people to live hundreds of years before the flood of Noah's day, Methuselah holding the record at 969. It amazes me how you can believe in evolution - everything (the universe and all living things) - coming from nothing with no cause or purpose. Right. Yet another indoctrinated person.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

@@JR-st3mp Genesis 5 "1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 3 ¶And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. 6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: * 7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters: 8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. 9 ¶And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: * 10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: 11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died. 12 ¶And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: * 13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters: 14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died. 15 ¶And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: * 16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters: 17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died. 18 ¶And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch: 19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: 20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died. 21 ¶And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: * 22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: 23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: 24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. 25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech: 26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters: * 27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died. 28 ¶And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: 29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed. * 30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters: 31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died. 32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth." Sounds pretty healthy to me and no Obamacare either.

[@JR-st3mp]

@@DavidParker-cf2km You think because I'm an athiest that I like Obamacare? I don't. Obamacare was doomed to failure before it ever began. I don't like socialism either. I'm a capitalist businessman, and I don't believe in fairies, unicorns, or any religion, including Christianity. You don't have to be religious to believe in capitalism. I ask for proof and you read me scriptures. Useless. Professing to me that you believe what is written in the bible is true is only proof that you drink that particular KoolAid. Noah was 500 years old, eh? OK, prove it. If you provide bible verses as proof of your claims, then you are either brainwashed, ignorant, or crazy. Which is it?

[@liammccarron8191]

If i had 50 per cent of this man's skill, intellect, oratory ability, i would be blessed. Love live CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS.

[@ingriddubbel8468]

He his dead.

[@quantumplaterjohn3169]

Which of his arguments do you like the most?

[@peli_candude554]

Hitchens believes that forgiveness of sins through the sacrifice of another human is utterly immoral. *I agree* Considering that Jesus is the son of God, Christianity isn't about sacrificing humans, it's about God demonstrating his love for his creation and giving us a reason to believe. So simple...I'm surprised Christopher didn't know this. His brother Peter knows it...I guess Peter was the real brains of the family...

[@riffgroove]

Only if you believe 2 things... 1.) That Jesus *wasn't* human. 2.) That he actually ever existed in the first place.

[@peli_candude554]

@@riffgroove Of course...which is where the questioning of his existence and divinity become the main focus of those who do not believe.

[@caseysammich2878]

@@peli_candude554 I was raised in the superstition called "Christianity." I now identify as an atheist because I bothered to seek. Lo and behold, I found... no god.

[@peli_candude554]

@@caseysammich2878 Did you look under the bed or in the closet? What did you find there? Who did you find there? Have you looked recently?

[@caseysammich2878]

@@peli_candude554 Spoiler alert. No god or jesus. I know I'm ruining various plots with one response, but the truth isn't always going to be insane.

[@NYCBG]

@6.25 "What is it like - I've never tried it, I've never been a cleric - what is it like, to LIE to children for a living and tell them that they have an authority that they MUST love! Compulsory love - what a GROTESQUE idea - and be TERRIFIED, all at the same time. What is it like, I'd like to know. " BRILLIANT , just brilliant. And terrifyingly real.

[@JPX7NGD]

he did that to you, and he is just projecting.

[@JPX7NGD]

all possible 6 types of unforgivably blaspheming: 1) Despair of salvation 2) Presumption of God’s mercy 3) To impugn the known truth 4) Envy of another’s spiritual good 5) Obstinacy in sin 6) Final impenitence

[@JPX7NGD]

Love, To Will The Good Of The other as other.

[@JPX7NGD]

not only are you incapable of Love because of a d4d soul,

[@JPX7NGD]

but being without Love IS d4th.

[@ozskipper]

The ancient Chinese had a wonderful society that didnt require the biblical god to give them good morals.

[@davidalexander5495]

I suggest you read up on the Yangshao Culture of the Yellow River Valley as well as on Taoism, Confucianism, and Buddhism.

[@reason5591]

ozskipper that is a perfect example

[@thegreatdaveo]

I did that. No you go look up how many people died because of King Richard I. And then look up how many people died because of Benjamin Netanyahu. Then look up how many people died because of EVERY CHRISTIAN American president in the last 60 years. If you're going to cherry-pick, we can all come up with multiple examples of genocides by leaders of EACH religion.

[@kantraxoikol6914]

says the wall where they buried 400,000 slaves ..uh huh

[@ozskipper]

@@kantraxoikol6914 The bible had slaves too. Duh..

[@studio-flash]

This video should be shown in schools..IF ANY RELIGION IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS..THIS BRILLIANT PIECE OF LOGICAL SPEAKING BY HITCHENS...PROVES..ALL GODS ARE MAN MADE MYTHS AND ALL RELIGION IS FASCISM.

[@user-mr1zs1np7w]

Agreed

[@curtisporter2010]

Having a drink listing to all my fav hitch Videos. which ones all of them

[@ericday4505]

Good I hope you become an alcoholic..

[@curtisporter2010]

@@ericday4505 no chance of that because i only drink couple times a month

[@ericday4505]

@Sticky Steve Hatred? The guy was vile, what are you talking about. And to the other idiot drinking and watching videos, pull up the Hitchens, George Galloway debate. A Hitch fan would need to be drunk watching that.

[@zer-op2gq]

@@ericday4505 yes stupid; hatred. You hoped someone watching would become an alcoholic because you "don't like the guy he's watching". Your sad attempt of innocence isn't helping either. If you're just looking for someone to insult you to think you've proven anything I'd be happy to call you a Dipshit

[@davidbacon1844]

LONG LIVE THE HITCH!!!!!!

[@llamaliammm]

Actually he wouldnt want that lol

[@slim439]

I wish I had his ability to use words to bamboozle the god squad when they come a knocking on my door. "Fuck off you delusional wankers" is wearing a bit thin I fear.

[@Matt6X]

He caters to ignorants..the less you know the bigger the news is.... And there is a big $ concerted effort to keep you this way...

[@rodneysettle8106]

I absolutely 100% agree!

[@Stevk005]

I only wish I was as fucking cool and chill as Hitch when belittling religion.

[@TariqKhan-xt5qs]

let me put it this way. I worked with this lady who was a total jesus and God freak, she would say things like bless your heart and bless your day. she was the same kind of lady who would run over a homeless person on the way to church

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Tariq Khan, that is why you should fix you eyes upon Jesus, the author and finisher of the Christian faith. A profession of Christianity does not a Christian make. I would estimate that about 99% of the people who profess to be Christian have never even read the Bible much less understand that civilization - science and the advancement of technology - is merely applied Christianity, the rule of law, limited civil government, etc. By the way, have you given your home and all your money to the homeless? Do you now work day and night to feed and house the homeless? Maybe the lady is following your example. Maybe the lady read she is not to cast pearls before swine. Maybe the lady is applying the principle that she is to minister to the congregation before ministering to all consuming godless wastrels. Maybe the lady is not so stupid as to believe that giving money to a drug addict is a good thing. Maybe the homeless were not always homeless but squandered and are still squandering their opportunities in favor of inertia because of the idiots that enable their chosen lifestyle. There is no "helping" someone who is not motivated to help himself.

[@r0bw00d]

RELIGION: You are a corruptive force, science! You must be dealt with! SCIENCE: What will you use to cast me aside? RELIGION: You! Furthermore, I'll also use you to support my own righteousness! SCIENCE: ?????

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

@@r0bw00d Christianity provided the foundation of logic and stability that made research possible and worthwhile.

[@r0bw00d]

Tell that to the Orientals.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

@@r0bw00d Oh, right I forgot the internal combustion engine was invented by the ancient Mandarins, and powered flight first developed in Hong Kong, and Japan was a major exporter of steel Samurai swords. That's why the British had such a difficult time controlling China and the French were barely able to rape Siam for a hundred years. Yep, highly developed Oriental society brought us modern technology. If you really want to know what did, it was the Protestant work ethic, the idea that a man is entitled to the fruits of his labor, that all men are created equal in the sight of God, that truth is absolute, that all are subject to God's law, etc. That is what "made America great". A few decades of Christian freedom in a land unspoiled by satanic notions of "divine right" of kings and ruling classes and permanent lower classes. It was the liberty God said belongs to mankind.

[@skidelrymar]

yesterday i offered my soul to satan so he could make me rich. i'm still poor as a rat.

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

At least a rat has some form of common decensy. So you're already better then a Christian. LEL.

[@skidelrymar]

Fiend Matador Slayer of a Thousand Noobs i prayed to god, then to all the gods but they don't answer prayers. well, satan doesn't take souls or give us money so... neither satan or the gods exist. to believe in magic is stupid and a waste of time.

[@outsideworld76]

Offer him some chocolate chip cookies, worked for me.

[@skidelrymar]

outsideworld76 I will try XD

[@dropbearattack]

Julia skidel Try praying to be transformed into a Meerkat ,those things are cute as all get out and really cool...Surely a God couldn't resist that.

[@andrewsnow1933]

I grew up in a jewish secular household where listening to great music like Bach, Beethoven, brahms, wagner was our "religion". I never heard about this person "dying for my sins" until my teen years. It was an anathema for me and seemed nonsensical. I have never been able to wrap my head around this curious practice. My exposure to judaism was scant but wnat i absorbed was that i am not judged by my thoughts but judged by my actions. I wonder if the reason many famous scientists and great musicians are Jewish, probably of the secular variety is because they're free of this outlandish and, simply put, strange concept of another's ability to absorb my "sin". Less guilt leads to a more freeing mind? I love listening to Hitchens. He is so smart

[@konyvnyelv.]

The Christian God wanted to free us from the Law. He ended up enslaving us more because in Christianity you're guilty of your thoughts and not of your actions. The same with God. You not only have to obey him anymore but you have to Love him. Brainwashing at the core

[@aries5534]

Ladies and Gentle men, Brothers and sisters... 😃 Such a lovely man. Miss you deeply sir, you are truly amazing.

[@paulfreeman4900]

Wow. Hitchens at his best

[@irishnich4456]

HERE IS WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS US - About Morality. Please cite the passages that promote morality. Don't forget the quiz at the end. 1. You can own slaves. You can buy and sell slaves. You can even sell your own daughter (Exodus 21:7-10). If she fails to please her master, you must refund him the purchase price.. 2. You can beat the living shit out of your slaves without being punished, as long as they do not die within two days (Exodus 20:20-21). Under what standards of morality is it ever okay to beat another human being like that and not suffer any consequences? It is reassuring the bible endorses property rights, but a source of morality it is not. 3. The bible not only condones slavery but sets prices for them (Leviticus 27:3-7). The bible obviously was concerned about human traffickers getting a fair price for their goods. 4. Surely Jesus had compassion towards slaves. He tells slaves to be obedient and subservient. That is why slave owners in the Americas pushed Christianity onto their slaves and punished those caught practicing their ancient religions.. Very reassuring. Accorging to Jesus, it was okay to beat slaves, those who unwittingly made mistakes were to be given few lashes, those who knowingly violated rules were to be given many lashes. Ownership rights, you know. 5. Thou shalt not kill. Now THERE is a good one. However, it seems there are exceptions: No sooner had Moses returned from his first trip up the mountains to find a party to which he had not been invited, in a fit of rage he orders his Levite goon squad to kill "every man his brother, and every man his friend and every man his neighbor." Exodus 32:28 "The Levites did as Moses commanded and that day about 3000 of the people died." 'Tough Love' maybe? 6. But there are others. The bible requires the faithful to put to death by stoning; Adulterers (Deuteronomy 22:23-24, Leviticus 20:10); Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13), Non virgins (Deuteronomy 22:20-21), any of your neighbors foolish enough to mow their lawn on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15,Exodus 35:1-3,Numbers 15:32-36). 7. Oh, and speaking of rape, surely that ranks high on the ‘Thou shalt nots’ of the ten commandments. NO??? It is not even mentioned??? An oversight perhaps? But then it was so important to forbid mixing fabrics or cooking a kid in its mother's milk (so important that it needed to be repeated three times) and such. Take a look at these REALLY important commandments (there are different versions within the bible). Thou shalt not: Worship other gods Work on the Sabbath (death penalty crime) Take the name of the lord in vain (OMG, ANOTHER capital crime) Make graven images Covet thy neighbor’s wife or house or ass And, oh yes, ‘thou shalt not kill’ and ‘thou shalt not steal’ are in there somewhere near the bottom. But rape? Not one word!!! How about elsewhere in the bible? Surely somewhere the bible must condemn rape, no? Oh, yes, here; Deuteronomy 22:28-29 28 "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives" *YESSS! There it is. Rape is a PROPERTY crime*. The rapist has damaged the father’s PROPERTY and it is he that must be compensated. What justice for the victim of the rape? She has to marry her rapist. Surely she lived happily ever after, no? And what if they were not discovered and the girl kept quiet out of fear? The bible is quite clear about the fate of girls who are not virgins on their wedding day. Here, as elsewhere in the bible, women are chattel and have no say in their future. It is interesting to note that, while the bible mandates death by stoning for adulterers and non virgin brides, raping an unbethrothed virgin incurred only a monetary penalty. This is biblical justice? 8. The bible endorses mass murder and sex slavery. Numbers 31:14-18 "14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army-the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds-who returned from the battle. 15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Numbers 31:35 - "And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him." THIRTY TWO THOUSAND VIRGINS being divided up to be used by “god’s chosen people” at the same time their mothers and brothers by the tens of thousands were being slaughtered like animals. Many of those women would have been pregnant, their unborn fetus dying inside them. And what would have been the crime of young boys of whatever age? 2? 4? 10? There was no distinction about age. This is GENOCIDE, condemned by civilized nations of the world. If you fail to feel a deep sense of moral outrage at this, how do you condemn ISIS for doing far less? Genocide in whatever form is an ugly stain on humanity. To claim it to be a moral act is the ultimate evil. Why then, should you regard the bible as a moral guide? Is ISIS any less evil? So what response do we hear from zealots? Shock? Horror? No! Their predicable response is indifference and a callous “They had it coming to them.” We have heard those words echoed by unrepentant Nazis and the barbaric ISIS. And how does that equate to morality? Are not empathy and compassion the cornerstones of morality? Where then is there any morality here? Perhaps it was just an oversight that the bible nowhere condemns slavery, or rape or molesting children, but yet it was so important to forbid mixing fabrics or cooking a kid in its mother's milk (so important that it needed to be repeated three times). What does that say about biblical priorities? If the bible is the source of your 'morality', call a mental health hotline, NOW.. God sends Abraham to murder his own son, clearly an immoral act. Abraham is perfectly willing to do so. And for this, the bible praises Abraham. To a rational person, morality is doing what's right, no matter what one is told. Biblical morality is doing what you are told no matter what. Although an angel was sent to 'stay Abraham's hand', no such courtesy was given Jephthah's daughter made into a burnt offering to the lord (Judges 11:29-40). That should be enough to turn anyone's stomach. And what of Jephthah? Was this murderer of an innocent child punished in any way? Was he condemned? NO. He is PRAISED. THE BIBLE TACITLY APPROVES OF HUMAN SACRIFICE. To suggest that morality stems from religion is not only wrong, it is frightening. You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't determine right from wrong, you lack empathy, not religion. And the bible has a special message for women: "STFU". We see at every turn they are denied the rights afforded to men; they were regarded as property, either of their father or their husband. It can be a source of pride for women that apparently not a single one of them participated in the writing of the bible. The rights that women have today were not granted them by the bible, they had to fight for them. The bible endorses misogyny. Some of the rules in the bible are downright strange. Take Leviticus 15:19- 24 for instance that forbids contact with a woman while she is "unclean" (during her period). I mean how is a guy to know? Surely it is impolite to ask. Donald Trump has a way of finding out, but I doubt the average guy could get away with it. Atheists have greater claim to morality than those who espouse religion. They are moral because it is the intelligent way to behave towards our fellow man, not out of expectation of reward or fear of punishment. If you are "moral" because of those constraints, you are a very dangerous person. Slavery still exists, but it has been made illegal in virtually every part of the world, NOT because of guidance from the bible, but because it was the right thing to do. Morality stems from empathy and concern for our fellow man. Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things; but for good people to do bad things, that takes religion. Dictators take control of a populace by instilling fear of punishment, how is religion any different than that? Mark Twain once said "It ain't the parts of the bible I don't understand that bother me, it's the parts I DO understand." Now the question: Do YOU understand why the bible is said to be the source of morality? Because I sure don't.

[@Andulsi]

just had an interesting discussion on jere. A user asserted evolution is racist. I responded by saying evolution considers humanity as a single species, therefore can t be...I then named prominent scientists I Admire, Krauss, Feynman etc... I was told THEY were racist. When I challenged the user for making such a libellous claim, and to demonstrate Krauss was racist...said user removed all comments...Isn t there a bit in the Bible about not bearing false witness? lol

[@Andulsi]

user name is Dary Matera should professor Krauss wish to have a stern word.

[@DaryMatera]

+Andulsi : I haven't removed any of my comments. That's a baldfaced lie. I never specified any named preacher of yours as racist. That's a boldfaced lie. I know nothing of the people you named. I stated that many of the multiple theories of evolution create a caste system of species by their stated design, which is not politically correct in our current world and could be viewed as outright racist. Get it right. And I'm sure if Krauss or any true intellect responded, he would understand exactly what I'm saying - he's heard is dozens of times before - and would respond with intelligence and insight instead of cursing, vagueness, and hate.

[@DaryMatera]

+Andulsi : Demonstrate that Joel Osteen is a stupid, ignorant religious fool as you've stated about all people of faith. And when you try, be prepared for me to ignore your answer, ask you again. And again. And again. See how you enjoy your own behavior.

[@Andulsi]

I never responded to a text about Joel Osteen stating he was such. You answered a text where I mentioned Krauss stating he was racist. I can demonstrate Sye Ten Bruggengate is an ignorant bullying liar if you want... But you re just shifting the onus on me.. which I m not going to let you get away with either.

[@Andulsi]

I can demonstrate Ray comfort is a homophobe. I can demonstrate Terry Scott uses the Bible to justify racism and slavery. I can be very specific about people I ve experience of... But we digress.. demontrate or retract

[@patbrennan6572]

don't believe in fairy tales, they help children to use their imagination when ther'e sproting. but as they mature, reality becomes more prominent in their lives..

[@Stephenparisi1]

+Pat Brennan Why are you watching this..?

[@BlueRaven893]

@@Stephenparisi1 I don't think you have a point.

[@andydufresne8034]

We are wild animals with wild thoughts. Goodness and evil are not defined by the wild thoughts that randomly race through your mind, but by the choices you make on what to do about those thoughts. God condem on thought crimes, but a truly loving parent instead understands that their child is a wild animal who simply needs to be trained, looks for the best in them and believes in them, and tries to bring it out of them. They call themselves believers for believing in a fairy tale, but true belief is believing in others and looking for it in them rather than condeming them for being flawed human beings just as they are. I recommend everybody educate themselves on the real problem in the world, which is an ancient epidemic of the mental illness known scientifically as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It is the problem in the world, I believe because Christianity was invented by narcissists who made God in their image. Narcissism makes no sense to sane people and you have to be educated in how to deal with them properly, which is totally counter inttuitive. I recommend youtube channels called Doctor Ramani, Mental Healness, and Surviving Narcissism. It'll change your life, and mass awareness is the key to fixing the world by taking it back from the narcissists.

[@user-mr1zs1np7w]

Im.....speechless..... Beautiful....

[@user-pv7pk5nh3k]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKKro6N4hcmnias

[@user-mr1zs1np7w]

@@user-pv7pk5nh3k what was the point of that. If you are trying to tell me god exists then im not even gonna waste my time on this.

[@user-pv7pk5nh3k]

@@user-mr1zs1np7w the point is it's not about God . It's about the case against Darwinism.. and I came across this , I think it's an interesting video . I don't go to church .I came from a cult church growing up .this is not the video on Darwinism lol. Anywys . It's still Interesting however

[@randypacchioli2933]

You can never go wrong with Jesus Christ. Lord and Saviour of my soul. 👍

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

what about the hells of all the religions you dont believe in?

[@randypacchioli2933]

Trust Jesus. He has informed us about the real hell.

[@kantraxoikol6914]

THE SPAGHETTI MONSTER! LORD OF PASTA AND ZESTY ITALIAN SAUCE

[@nealfager9178]

How are dogs such amazing creatures if they do not and cannot believe in Moses or Jesus or Muhammed or any of our Gods or their messengers. If dogs are better than humans in whose image were dogs made? Are dogs or cats sinful from birth too no matter how cute or adorable or soft or cuddly they are?

[@kawasakiwhiptwo5821]

I love how pissed and butthurt believers get. The truth hurts,and so do Hitchslaps.

[@Matt6X]

Poor you...

[@kawasakiwhiptwo5821]

@@Matt6X no,I'm good Matt,thanks.

[@Matt6X]

@@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 Oh, I am so relieved, Not many people can take poison like this and do not get sick.. unless they are on it all the time and do not know otherwise..

[@kawasakiwhiptwo5821]

@@Matt6X let's start at YOUR beginning Matt. what was your "poor you" comment supposed to mean to me?

[@Matt6X]

@@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 Exactly what I wrote: "do not know otherwise?". Any real effort on your side to understand the topics Mr.Hitch. addressed in his propaganda...

[@wayneburton8168]

Thank you Christopher Hitchens for eloquently putting into words, what I have instinctively known my whole life.

[@justtheaverageone3840]

A shame he died so early but his ideas and ideals never died, they'll live on in us

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Too bad he cannot tell you what he cannot now deny. But, as Jesus said, even if one came back from the dead, Hitchens would not believe - and neither can you.

[@justtheaverageone3840]

@@DavidParker-cf2km he cannot tell anyone anything because he's dead, and who knows which ancient bronceage mythology divinity he's now with if at all

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

@@justtheaverageone3840 No shit Sherlock, all he can do is fry and regret how he spent his life. By the way, what is a "bronceage mythology divinity"?

[@justtheaverageone3840]

@@DavidParker-cf2km and why should we think any of this is real? Have you actual evidence of heaven or hell? the bible is just another collection of myths, fabels and stories like any other "holy book"

[@James-ye7rp]

If Christianity is to be believed, I should be OK if I died and stood before God, and at that point accept God. If that is not the case, I would like to know why that is so.

[@Dazzletoad]

'i' missing from Christopher's name in the title :P Love this gentleman. It put a fracture in the world that this wonderful man was lost early to cancer. A mind a man, an intellect, an honesty, a rationality, a logic, a beautiful orator all in one.

[@patricialauriello3805]

how can you hate a god you don't believe in the first place. I don't believe in fairies. I can't. I don't believe in them. boom.

[@stevecole3917]

It's very refreshing to listen to an individual who is so articulate.

[@mikemcgill90]

The religious did not understand logic .

[@patbrennan6572]

+MIKE MCGILL not 100% right mike, i was deeply religious at one time in my life but things changed over a period of years,. we're all born without a belief in gods, some of us are lured into the religious traps forever, ''but some manage to escape into reality''..

[@feonor26]

+Pat Brennan I was deeply religious too for a time in my life and back then my problem wasn't that I didn't understand logic. My problem was that I didn't want to hear it if it conflicted with my faith, I ignored it and instead found a passage in the Bible that would reassure me in my faith. So yeah, logic doesn't resonate well with religious people...I know first hand.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Christians refined Greek logic. Greg Bahnsen had a perfect understanding and grasp of logic. Hitchens would never debate Bahnsen. Stein did. That debate with Stein is on KZbin somewhere. Meanwhile, learn: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIPUZ6SBpZxrjZo

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Christians accept and develop logic. Science and logic are part of Christianity. Cause and effect, the very basis of science, are Christian concepts as is the notion that what we do today can benefit future generations.

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Christians absolutely do understand logic and argue logically. Strict use of logic is part of Christian doctrine. We absolutely believe in cause and effect, the foundation of scientific research. On the other hand, you could not possibly have won a debate with RC Sproul or Greg Bahnsen. You could not possibly win a debate Ravi Zacharias. Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins cannot win a debate with a Christian theologian, because the atheist position is inherently irrational and illogical. You start off with an incoherent argument and all we have to do is expose your lack of logical consistency.

[@runawaytrain7382]

Hitchens was awesome. He was a joy to watch debate and destroy all religious apologists that were foolish enough to take him on. You are greatly missed Hitch, the world is a less colourful place without you in it!

[@sblack48]

Damn I wish I could express myself like that man. When somebody questions my atheism I don’t even bother to try. I just say Google Christopher Hitchins. I don’t seem to be able to say more than that I think all religion is horseshit. I miss him.

[@wagsman9999]

I would have liked to have a beer with this man. Of course, no topic would be debated.

[@imaseeker100]

Whew. Yet another scathing rebuke of the sanctimonious, self-righteous, faux-morality of Christianity and all the world's religions.

[@davidhartz8902]

Any Christian who can think, if he had the courage to watch this in its entirety, would leave his church immediately.

[@kimmirossi46]

This man is BRILLIANT! We should have people like this in politics. This guy is thinking with his own head - that is rare today!

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

He sure fooled you. My guess is that didn't take brilliance, it merely took telling uncritical you what you wanted to hear.

[@peterhalat913]

NONSENSE! This individual really does not know, that THE BIBLE says: CHRIST came to save HIS people from their sins, NOT all people. Most were predestinated to perish.

[@peterhalat913]

Ronnie Houser The info I provide is BIBLICAL. Matt 1:21 21 She will give birth to a son. You will name him Jesus.[b] Give him that name because he will save his people from their sins.” Rom. 9:27 27 And Isaiah cries out about Israel: “There are so many people of Israel, they are like the grains of sand by the sea. But only a few of them will be saved. 28 Yes, the Lord will quickly finish judging the people on the earth.” Rom 11:5 5 It is the same now. God has chosen a few people by his grace. 6 And if he chose them by grace, then it is not what they have done that made them his people. If they could be made his people by what they did, his gift of grace would not really be a gift. Is. 10:22 22 Israel, your people are as many as the sands of the sea, but only a few of them will be left to come back to God. But before that happens, your country will be destroyed. God has announced that he will destroy the land. And then justice will come into the land like a river flowing full. 23 The Lord God All-Powerful really will destroy this land.

[@Bucketheadhead]

His or people or all people doesn't change his point.

[@peterhalat913]

Bucketheadhead Then he should not be talking about Christianity as if he knew what he was talking about.

[@peterhalat913]

Aidan Gibson What double?! I DO NOT care what views denominations have, since I DO NOT belong to them. THE BIBLE says, that YHWH predestinated ALL.

[@MrCostiZz]

His people? What you mean the Hebrew? Because in the old Testament God seem to care only about the Hebrew!! If you like you can insult your self by assuming that people need to care what Hebrew mythology apply to us. But live us out of it…We are not Hebrew. Nobody cares what the bible says. The bible also says that we should eat shit and should stone to death homosexuals.

[@AlcibiadesMD]

God damn! I miss Christopher Hitchens, best orator & polymath of modern times, he could have recited the sheep herder written bible and it would have been interesting.

[@timboskia]

He mention ethics and morality, but if there's no God then why is their even such a thing as ethics or morality? When you say there's too much evil in this world you assume there's good. When you assume there's good, you assume there's such a thing as a moral law on the basis of which to differentiate between good and evil. But if you assume a moral law, you must posit a moral Law Giver, but that's Who everyone is trying to disprove and not prove. Because if there's no moral Law Giver, there's no moral law. If there's no moral law, there's no good. If there's no good, there's no evil. You are only suppressing the truth people.

[@uhlan30]

There's an obvious answer to your question that I'm surprised you're ignoring. We humans are the creators of morality, or the "moral law givers," if that's what you want to call it. We have invented and applied moral systems for the purpose of mutual benefit.

[@adamsmith5909]

->organisms->Life->Animals->humans->survival(key!!)->tribalism ->intelligence ->fear->love->emotions.etc.all interlinked which lead to us to identify morality and reason. We recognise negative and positive effects of human behaviour ..our moral compass comes from how we feel about the outcome of a particular action (that causes a feeling we connect with.) In the bible we read “do to others as you would apone yourself” ?? What made you think that was a good moral thing.which it is!.....(don’t say the Holy Spirit ) and I don’t wana sound cold..but I used to be a Christian and my voice of reason made me to believe a lot of the bible is immoral I not saying I’m right and Christians are wrong /immoral but just my opinion /conclusion to the whole thang.

[@TBrewer64]

Moral rules are derived from reason, compassion, and empathy. There are certain ways we must behave if we are to live and prosper together in harmony. Human beings have a moral sense with which they derive these rules. When humans develop their various religions, they can then instill these moral rules as commandments in their scriptures and doctrines. No invisible sky dictator needs to be involved.

[@Clefme]

Two things. First, you've just completely ignored Hitchens' comment about Mt. Sinai. Second, to paraphrase Hitchens in another medium, you strike me as someone who has never read anything of the opposing viewpoint, in this case, secular morality, of which there are plenty of books, articles and videos which explain this.

[@timb3896]

@@TBrewer64 How did we get that moral sense? Not trying to be condescending or anything like that, truly wondering.

[@gurnygub]

Until people get over the fear of death,religion will remain unfortunately. RIP Hitch.

[@michellelabrie1351]

Actually, I would be scared as HELL (no pun intended) about death if I were an atheist.

[@dukeemzworth3005]

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” ..... Mark Twain.

[@mcdonaldifill238]

Is it moral that I love my enemies? Love is demonstrated through works. Hitchens is trying to judge the works of God using broken human thinking. The death of Jesus Christ paid. The price for all our sins. Next thing: it is silly to think that the creator needs to get the permission and consultation of the creator. Hitchens never ever said anything that made any sense or showed his understanding of God or the Christian faith. He spent his whole life missing the point. What a waste.

[@trumpbellend6717]

How could any rational person possibly think that a god decided that the best way for him to be able to forgive man, for being evil & immoral by breaking rules that god knew in advance that they would break when he made those rules and created evil. Was to send a version of himself down to earth then sacrifice himself to himself. Thus preventing his need to punish his creations for something their ancestors did before they knew the difference between right and wrong. 🤔 ??????? ☝️☝️ I mean just actually think about that for a minute 🤔🤔🤔 This has to be THE most illogical ideology imaginable, it fails on just about every conceivable level. But then again I supose that's to be expected when its origins lie in the myths , knowledge, and world views of superstitious, uneducated, primative, child sacrificing, tribesmen. But I digress, so anyway just who is it that gets punished for this "ORIGINAL SIN " ? Well that's really rather confusing isnt it, firstly the snake (supposedly the devil) gets punished by having to crawl on its belly for the rest of its days. EXCEPT that the devil is later frequently discribed as "walking around " (an incredible achievement for a paraplegic) indeed he has no problem whatsoever scaling "unusually high mountains" demonstrating skills that would make a Nepalese sherpa green with envy 🤢🤢🤔 Then adam and eve lose their eternal life, except that if they were already eternal why did god also put a tree of eternal life in the garden and ban them from eating from it ?? 🤔🤔 Then of course we have Adam's decendants being punished for it, which seems highly illogical & imoral to me. 🤔 But to be fair the bible seems a little confused on the matter also 👇👇👇👇 The Lord...visits the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation. (Exodus 34:6-7 = Deuteronomy 5:8-10) ............................vrs.................. The son shall *not* suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. (Ezekiel 18:20, cf. Jeremiah 31:30) You know to me that whole original sin biblical narative ( forbidden fruit ect ) seems analogous to me putting a loaded shotgun in a toddlers cot telling them not to touch it, and then being surprised when I hear a *BANG* 💥 and I'm not even omniscient 🤣😅🤣😅 But does this vicarious redemption ( scapegoating) solve the problem and lead to a just and moral solution ?? Well imagine a girl gets raped, they catch the rapist and he gets found guilty in court. The judge sentences him to life, but then says to him "dont worry I will serve your sentence for you" Has the rapist recieved "JUSTICE" ?? Has the raped girl received "JUSTICE" ?? Of course not yet that is precisely what happens under the Christian vicarious redemption (scapegoating) nonsense ideology 🤬🤬 Infact it's an actual Tennant of christianity that even a child murder can be forgiven and go to heaven, if they but repent and believe. 🤮🤮 Your god CANNOT be both perfectly just and perfectly merciful. Mercy is by definition a suspension of justice.

[@SharonBalloch]

Well thankfully Hitchens was not a Christian.. with his lying and cheating on everyone with everyone male and female it would be a black mark against Christianity.. but then he was a pretty bad representation of most atheist as well...most are not lying cheaters who spend all their time mocking millions while doing all the things they claims others do..Hitchens’ debating style begins with a self-assured and urbane wit and ends with rude ad-hominem attacks stopping just short of insulting his opponent’s mother, but I know he has his followers and they are just like him..thankfully they also are atheists.. works out very well..

[@kawasakiwhiptwo5821]

Hang in there Sharon,it's only been a month. I'm sure there's a like for your comment coming real soon. I can feel it.

[@m.935]

1:55 you can't but God can. Because He is the Creator of all things.

[@MegaMarlo1]

People always say they are praying for me to keep me from going to hell! That is such a waste because there is no hell!

[@user-pv7pk5nh3k]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKKro6N4hcmnias watch with an open mind

[@ji5055]

Dr. Chuck Missler explains. Dr. Gene Kim. Amazing teachers. We have to explore all the sides and then make a decision. We have the side of astrophysicist science theology. They make great Arguments for proving this existence couldn't be by chance. Chuck Missler shows us that the world and everything in it has a specific number and a DNA it's magnificent and can only be from a creator. He didn't believe in God he studied codes for the government unscrambling problems and stumbled on God's masterpiece. Thank you very much for input. There's nothing more fascinating of a subject. And that's the beginning. The root of everything. Where did it come from? Why are we here? Where are we going? Very interesting. I don't believe in chance or coincidence because it's too much of animazement and the odds too many things are one in six billion. Exactly Missler explains. If you give him a an ear for a video you will see what I mean. I thought you would enjoy it.

[@MelindaGreen]

"If we'd known now what we'd known then."?? Right at the start of this video. Pretty embarrassing really. He's still my hero though.

[@Longtack55]

How can anyone justify following a system of belief concocted several thousand years ago, when people were confused, ignorant and seeking enlightenment for phenomena that were completely bewildering?

[@TheAdeleLonestar]

Well, Ghandi was a racist, if you want to get down to it. Great guy right? ;) I have never believed in god. I do not know the teachings of the bible. I do not know the 10 Commandments nor were they ever taught to me. I love people and other living things, and I simply treat them the way I feel about them. I volunteer with a local hospice here in town, and the local Ronald McDonald House. I do it because it is the right and good and human thing to do. No superstition necessary. :)

[@jordanmulder9438]

This video is intellectually weak and purposefully devious. It is just one humongous straw-man fallacy.

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

easy to say, harder to actually back it up. I see you provided no evidence

[@jordanmulder9438]

@@SNORKYMEDIA I don't have the time to be writing religious dissertations in youtube comments, but if you listen to what he is saying you may join me in the school of thought that he is arguing against points that are not said by anyone specifically, nor are a well-established school of thought.

[@bgardiner3354]

I can only hope that my children can shake off the chains and lies of religious belief systems. Or we may in fact be living in the end of days...

[@andyholloman612]

..hitch...i miss your erudite, passionate skills at the pulpit, and your amazing sense of humor

[@wilfordmurray]

Christopher Hitchens, boy have you got that right.

[@klaasriphagen8646]

The world needs less Gods, and more Hitchens.

[@danieleferrara247]

For people who are saying his speech is not about God's existence or non existence its about Christians unethical reasoning. Please read the Bible for yourself dont let someone dictate or reason for you. Im sure Christopher would agree that in order to make a deposition about something you have to do your research and dig into the subject. Im glad to see lots of people who are at least trying to search for the truth. Being in the grey is where it is dangerous.

[@sammysam2615]

At work yesterday, in the elevator, a woman said to me "as a nurse I live and see the reaults of Adam and Eve's sinner coming true". I laughed so hard. I said to her, "how would two people whether they existed or not, affect your choices and the choices of billions of people today?" And she couldn't answer the question without quoting the bible, and for me is okay, but it doesn't provide an objective truth, instead it shows her belief in belief and nothing more