"I used to be an atheist, but then my wife turned into christinanity and i had to make a choice between staying an atheist, or getting laid on a regular basis." is all i heard from the first speaker >.
@rsr7896 жыл бұрын
Bingo. Looks like he was literally cumming to god.
@mikejohe19204 жыл бұрын
Hahaha hehehe I was going to right the same thing the power of the pussy lol
@josephno13472 жыл бұрын
pussie whipped
@michelegrant2303 Жыл бұрын
😂 lol
@Ometecuhtli Жыл бұрын
So finely tuned to exist in one minuscule part of the universe which is like saying that you must give me my pension because I went to work for 1 femtosecond.
@Goddessman12 жыл бұрын
I feel more love and respect for Hitchens, a man I never met, than I could ever be told to feel for any god.
@indigoblue77 Жыл бұрын
I can actually feel my IQ dropping as I tolerate (endure) the idiotic arguments of the pro religious. It's insane. Hitches is Magisterial as always.
@214blackbear Жыл бұрын
l
@MrColdchillin81 Жыл бұрын
Same. The obtuse density of the faithful is abhorrent
@thomasbonnett4800 Жыл бұрын
Got the Christmas thesaurus early? Nice!
@MrColdchillin81 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasbonnett4800 no I actually just speak as though I’m educated lol
@georgelux126 Жыл бұрын
There are many intelligent theists. It's important to remember that even intelligent people believe things that aren't provably true.
@2Kawusia3 жыл бұрын
It was so brave of Hitchens to sit with these people, listen to their nonsense, compose himself and bring forward his message.
@weemaggiejiggs88322 жыл бұрын
Hardly "brave" he probably looked upon this 'debate' as a piece of frivolous nonsense before lunch...🤣
@2msystems740 Жыл бұрын
Nah, they brought knives to a gun fight. Wish someone would edit out all this skydaddy crap. But then again this piece will lose its masterful illustration of how man invented god.
@bethh.9647 Жыл бұрын
@@weemaggiejiggs8832 Do you know what year this is from? Thank you
@andrewtaylor1737 Жыл бұрын
says who?
@bradlii Жыл бұрын
More like bringing forth reality.
@mhaurora13688 жыл бұрын
37:46 _"Imagine how she must have prayed everyday, how she must have beseeched heaven. Imagine for twenty four years and no, no answer at all, nothing! _*_Nothing!_* Goodness me what a moment. It's very satisfying to see a very unfiltered version of the anger he must feel towards religion.
@sciencefirst70324 жыл бұрын
As far as the bible goes...he had every right to do what he did to his daughter.
@LMFAORomania4 жыл бұрын
@@sciencefirst7032?
@sciencefirst70324 жыл бұрын
@@LMFAORomania women are treated as property especially daughters. Look them up...all old testament stuff. Like...selling them into slavery, killing them whenever you want...ect. It's all there.
@at66864 жыл бұрын
MH Aurora I think it shows his anger at the lack of a god and anger at those who still follow that fantasy.
@LtColVenom4 жыл бұрын
@@at6686 Could it be anger at those who presents the God delusion as something worthwhile to entertain? On what sadistic grounds you have to stand to pretend that what that women went through can be compensated in any way. It's not like she was asked for that bargain.
@mu92842 жыл бұрын
This is why Christopher is so missed. To have the balls to go in the ring with 4 theist plus 1 extra in guise of a moderator. To have the mental courage to do so. It’s says something about a person. And mind you , it looks easy for the atheistic side cause Christopher makes it look easy. You will be missed sir.
@zZavies Жыл бұрын
I wonder if he held to his atheism on his deathbed.
@GuitarGuy057 Жыл бұрын
@@zZavies Duh.
@zZavies Жыл бұрын
@@GuitarGuy057 idk about it.
@GuitarGuy057 Жыл бұрын
@@zZavies Then you're abysmal at preponderance of evidence. Which, if you're religious, tracks.
@zZavies Жыл бұрын
@@GuitarGuy057 atheism is still an ism
@SpaccaVagone11 жыл бұрын
Hitchens is the only intelligent person on that stage and the only one worthwhile listening to.
@alexisjuillard48162 жыл бұрын
That statement is not true, not constructive and is in fact de-constructive. I'm not gonna argue about the speakers or the subject we probably agree on most things, but I don't agree on your attitude towards the 'other side in fact i vehemently disagree with any gratous demeaning comment against theists. Why? You are not doing any good to the furthering of atheism and more generally rational critical thinking. Imagine being a theist reading that. And imagine you actually also made real pertinant points that had not been answered. I can guarantee 99.99% of people will instantly dismiss all of your comment because it was felt as an unjustified (or plain) attack. It's dumb it's unrelated but people take critism of their beliefs as critisism of them and more so the stronger held. You are basically attacking the most fundamental central pillar of a belief and that is equivalent to you giving them a get out of jail card. You give them an espace route, oh that bastard is just a godless immoral atheist look at how he is full of hate on our poor religion, people hate christians so much we are constantly attacked- in the meantime not even having to dismiss your actual points, why give any time to the raving comments of a demonised adversary? I understand where the sentiment comes from believe me, and i ve been far more brutal in many conversations with thiests. Not proud nor ashamed i'd be gzntler on some but not everyone deserveq your good will, and sometimes you just get angry no big deal, the difference is between attacking a person which is perfectly fine if merited, and attacking an ideology solely by mocking, which is actually helping said ideology by protecting it from critisism.
@alexisjuillard48162 жыл бұрын
Again i understand and i m not saying you should never do it just to be clear. Personally i find that it is sometimes the right thing to do in my moral code (utilitarian in moral philosophy terms) is attacking islam without any reason, not muslims but just bashing the religion a bit with true harsh arguments. Because i feel theu are wining the war against free speach and trying to ban critism, i will not let that happen
@masonvegas43362 жыл бұрын
@@alexisjuillard4816 wow what a loser you are. You just typed an essay to yourself because trust me, no one gives a flying fluck what your opinion is. You must be really lonely to want to type for 10 minutes to yourself
@kellygipson83542 жыл бұрын
He's also the only one being inconsistent with what he thinks, which expose's what he says is a lie.
@masonvegas43362 жыл бұрын
@@kellygipson8354 you edited your comment that was 1 sentence long, barely. I’d advise you not to give your unsolicited opinion. Especially if it consists of a single sentence that you can’t get right the first time
@HeyDude93gt8 жыл бұрын
"We have A lot of brain power up here" That moderator was very polite to those believers by not pointing out he was talking directly about Christopher
@ChillAssTurtle2 жыл бұрын
True
@GlowingMpd Жыл бұрын
👍🤣😂😅🏆
@sca82177 ай бұрын
If there are 5 billion brain cells between the debaters on the panel, how many does each debater have?
@LS-kl6bj Жыл бұрын
They argue that Christianity offers hope, whereas (Hitchens) humanism does not. There is something worse than no hope . . . it's called false hope.
@Philusteen Жыл бұрын
Hitchens has the patience of Job, lol. Thank you sir for helping me on my journey of letting go of catholicism and instead embracing reality more authentically, and in fact more lovingly.
@fortherestofmylife6610 жыл бұрын
what an absolute tautologist William Lane Craig is... how can someone with such little reasoning be respected
@yomilalgro4 жыл бұрын
When word's are many, your just babbling
@dharmadefender39322 жыл бұрын
It's Philosophy of Religion he's respected in, not ACTUAL philosophy. Or science for that matter.
@mattstickle2725 Жыл бұрын
Plus he's just mealy mouthed... Always sounds like hi pitched wanking
@williambloodworth5126 Жыл бұрын
He's just another con man
@peterfarkas9857 Жыл бұрын
Easy. Have even less reasoning.
@damianshutie8 жыл бұрын
Five against one and Hitch still slaps each and every one. Reason above everything.
@Chirhopher4 жыл бұрын
Hitchens himself disagrees. Please lay out how he slapped Brother Wilson! Thanks
@zeljjko707664 жыл бұрын
exactly
@Fundaykidzz4 жыл бұрын
What’s really scary and alarming is how one can’t see how Hitchens bitch slapped each opponent with pure reason and logic ... to understand how he did it you simply have to say to yourself “ can a spider man comic book actually prove the existence of spider man?” ... if you can’t understand this analogy then you’ve got a bigger problem than you think .. all religion and god(s) like comic books and super hero’s - are man made.
@ATOK_3 жыл бұрын
@@Fundaykidzz well said
@pfflyer33812 жыл бұрын
It's a whole brainwashed school
@cubby0913988 жыл бұрын
I went to a Conservative Christian Camp somewhere in southern Kansas back in June of 1993 when I was 12 years old. We had a counselor who was speaking to us children and teenagers who were 11-14 years old. This man in his 20s looked at every last one of us and said now you know we all to deserve to burn in hell for eternity and if it wasnt for Jesus we all would be. My heart I thought was going to jump right out of my throat and I was so enraged. My blood was boiling, my body shook violently, and I wanted to walk right up to that guy and kick him right in the balls. I dont see how anyone can live with themself or look someone in the face and say something so hideouly wickedly immoral to children, teenagers, or anyone for that matter. Oh, they would say were just teaching them that because it is only the truth. There is not even one shred of credible evidence to back up that claim. Thank You Christopher, you will be missed.
@dentonfender88725 жыл бұрын
Maybe after your counselor said all those stupid remarks about how you are doomed to hell---he later said privately to each kid you can be redeemed if you make me happy as he put his hands in private places.
@mekelreen98694 жыл бұрын
Mordecai Ruckman are you joking or are you just stupid? He didn’t want to kick the guy in the balls for not having evidence. He wanted to kick the guy in the balls for telling 11 - 14 year olds that that they would and do deserve to suffer for eternity except for the salvation of Jesus, for which there is no evidence.
@terribleTed-ln6cm4 жыл бұрын
You poor little baby .
@jdorritie2 жыл бұрын
Newsflash: most humans are totally delusional and insane.
@vincemcmahonreadskoran31202 жыл бұрын
@@dentonfender8872 Nowadays with less people in church there’s child predators elsewhere. child indoctrination is like a mental molestation of young minds though.
@dontreadmyname4352 жыл бұрын
Christopher Hitchens: answers all the questions with fine detail. Dr.William Craig at the end: nOnE Of OUr qUesTiONs wERe aNsWERd.
@Ometecuhtli Жыл бұрын
First thing I thought when I heard that was... so William, you seem to have political aspirations.
@noah8236 Жыл бұрын
I now have watched about three other debates involving WLC and he pretty much 'sums up' every other debate like this.
@gerdschenkel7356 Жыл бұрын
He always does that
@steaksaretasty12 жыл бұрын
It's like an adult arguing with 4 children
@edolboyy8 жыл бұрын
Only 4 Christians? How unfair...
@Chirhopher4 жыл бұрын
Lol. No doubt! It should b reversed to make it a lil closer to fair
@drrydog4 жыл бұрын
they could use 15; wouldn't make a fuck worth of difference
@yomilalgro4 жыл бұрын
I know and none of them armed to spar with the late great Hitch 😢
@krusk35443 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the moderator, who engaged with hitch at the beginning then ducked out when he realisef how putmatched he was, so 5 christians.
@Ometecuhtli Жыл бұрын
In Einstein words, if I were wrong 1 would have sufficed.
@kimbye18 жыл бұрын
The Fritzl argument just crushed the opposition. Hitchens showed real anger here and it made his argument ten times stronger.
@davidstaffell2 ай бұрын
Their floundering responses just showed how they couldn't comprehend the thought. Embarrassing
@theodorearaujo9717 жыл бұрын
The desire for structure and purpose is so overwhelming for these theists that it is disturbing. What could be more narcissistic and arrogant than thinking one is a member of a chosen class of people, and that one knows the will of God? They are so afraid of freedom and liberty. So afraid to make a choice based on reason and logic. So afraid to live in a World without a totalitarian Father.
@esdrassalgado8850 Жыл бұрын
That makes absolutely no sense what you just said. “Based on reason and logic”? Where do you get off of telling someone what to do or to even call something logic when we’re just matter acting on time and space. That means there is no meaning or purpose or even thinking for that matter that should matter at all. We’re just stardust colliding with each other. Even atheist make me laugh because there logic is so flawed. A true atheist if one didn’t really believe in God wouldn’t be here commenting on KZbin videos because there is not sense in actually commenting if where just time and space acting on matter. Even your thinking pattern of composing a sentence is illogical how can we show you’re right, how can we prove that logic even exist if we just evolved into what we are? Whose to say that is even true? Atheist sound like the far left who say men can be women and women can be men. It’s all ludicrous when you speak because there is not such thing as objective truth in an atheist world view. So why bother with literally anything. Why care about evil and good if there is no objective truth. And if we developed this objective truth how do we even know it’s right. I swear atheist stand on such High ground thinking they are superior in intellect when you’re own intellect you brag about isn’t even founded on nothing, its wrong or right but how would we know?
@we8608 Жыл бұрын
@@esdrassalgado8850 dude, the American Santa Claus isn't real. He's not a fat old white guy with a white beard and bald head. He never had a wife. There's no Easter bunny. There are no fairies. There is no God, gods, goddesses hanging around in the sky behind the clouds. Behind the clouds is outer space. There is nothing out there but the cosmos, and no, there are no spiritual realms out there. Stop fantasizing.
@esdrassalgado8850 Жыл бұрын
@@we8608 you’re the one who believes in fairytales thinking things can just pop into existence out of nothing. Let me guess you believe genies in lamps are real too huh? You’re the type of kid who thought money grew on trees growing up, Probably hecka privileged too. Pull your head out the clouds fam and think with your brain. Nothing has ever and will ever just pop into existence, especially something as complicated as a universe let alone life. People like you need to stop living in Lala land and come back down to reality.
@we8608 Жыл бұрын
@@esdrassalgado8850 I'm atheist.
@Johnsmith-pd3uk Жыл бұрын
@@esdrassalgado8850 your entire diatribe is pointless drivel. You not only lack any concept of logic, toy also have no concept of life. Do you need a pathetic sky dictator to have meaning in your life? I certainly don't. My life is full of meaning, no mind numbing, idiotic superstition required. Do some research on logic and reasoning before you attempt to speak to it, you've only shown how ignorant you are. And you're 100% correct, i, like many atheists do hold myself on higher ground intellectually. You cannot have true intelligence and believe any religious garbage at the same time
@garyoleyar4 жыл бұрын
Craig makes these enormous leaps of logic, 'this therefore, that' and by the time he inhales he's lost me.
@happyhappy858 ай бұрын
He's lost you because what he's saying is the most ill-formed logical presentation In the world. No unbiased philosopher or scientist would take it seriously. "The universe must have had a cause therefore God loves us" it's ridiculous. I'm not sure he doesn't have learning difficulties. The problem isn't your ability to follow his arguments, the problem is his inability to make an argument that logically follows.
@patbrennan65728 жыл бұрын
''horray for hitch'' he won't let you down..
@ericisking1311 жыл бұрын
Not sure how Christopher Hitchens can keep a straight face and not start cracking up at the craziness spouted around him.
@SmallC20239 ай бұрын
Maturity.
@DaenerysStormborn-cw5ws7 ай бұрын
That has been my #1 question about God debaters for years. I wouldn't be able to stop laughing.
@kodexi27616 ай бұрын
Because he takes these matters seriously and he is trying to make valid points, not just make fun of the subject at hand.
@jerahdelacruz9 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how nice it is for once to scroll through the "top comments" and see zero whiny and personally offended pissed off Christians acting exactly like someone their God wouldn't like.
@Chirhopher4 жыл бұрын
It is much more pleasant to see all these 'whiny', 'pissed off', 'personally offended' "a-Theists"‽ Hmmm... What does my God, your GOD, 'like'?
@enriquefranco6330 Жыл бұрын
I listened more than once to understand what each was saying and found that Hitchens is mostly a lot of talk without much substance to the arguments that the other speakers brought up. I notice on this post that most all posts are positive about Christopher. 😊
@TAPSDOC Жыл бұрын
@@enriquefranco6330 on the contrary, I find very little substance in a deity who ignores his chosen creation for millennia, and then reveals itself only to a select few in a select location instead of to the entire world, without corroborative accounts in history and archeology. This is one of the most compelling arguments against monotheism I’ve ever heard, and I remember first hearing it from Christopher Hitchens. As for its rebuttal presented here, I would respond that there are far more practical written works for our present times than the Bible. The US Constitution comes to mind as one example.
@davidstaffell2 ай бұрын
@@enriquefranco6330its ALL substance. You're just not registering it because you don't want to have your entire life view shattered
@johnwestcott56122 жыл бұрын
Craig gives a masterclass in lying. Wilson gives a masterclass in cognitive dissonance.
@ArKritz848 ай бұрын
The worst of it is that he's actually smart enough to know that (and understand why) his sht stinks - pun intended - to high heaven.
@hackum19 жыл бұрын
Thank God for Christopher Hitchens!
@annaelvirapostma73077 жыл бұрын
Thank Christopher Hitchens mother for Christopher Hitchens!
@ThomasLMcCurdySr6 жыл бұрын
hackum1 Thank "God", Indeed! I can only envision Christopher rolling his eyes at such a statement. We, Christopher and I, both perceive the graciousness of the sentiment, as well as the irony.
@bryonwilson84986 жыл бұрын
Thank god?
@dashlamb93186 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@mikejohe19204 жыл бұрын
Hahaha good one that was funny
@glutinousmaximus5 жыл бұрын
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence comes evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" _Epicurus_
@AneTix10112 жыл бұрын
"We have to be brothers, one with another", Hitchens "Why?", Douglas "We have to fight this off", Hitchens "Why?", Douglas "For our own survival. For our children's sake", Hitchens
@weaseldragon11 жыл бұрын
By the end of this debate, Hitchens had these guys just bawling their eyes out.
@JohnMacbeth6 жыл бұрын
Hitchens face at the beginning when the mod is talking about the subscription to the Christian magazine 😂😂😂
@robinjoy27896 ай бұрын
I gotta go back and look 😂
@andrewz4105 Жыл бұрын
Hitchens isn't just the smartest man in the room, he's got more braincells than every other man combined
@XYisnotXX Жыл бұрын
Angry alcoholic who thought the war in Iraq was a roaring success till his dying day lest he admit to being wrong about something. In the words of his own brother, " Man is not great" Peter Hitchens.
@andrewz4105 Жыл бұрын
@@XYisnotXX He objectively wasn't an alcoholic, his rationale for supporting the war in iraq was sound given his principles. and why would you listen to a word his brainwashed christian conservative brother has to say?
@XYisnotXX Жыл бұрын
@@andrewz4105 The war in Iraq was an oil grab nothing more, the dogs in the street knew there were no naughty weapons of mass destruction. He was obliterated in debate by his own brother over the war and made to look like a fool! His alcoholism contributed greatly to his early demise along with his heavy smoking. Why should I listen to his superiors? Well unlike him there don't believe that magic interactions between random magic unguided chemicals acting apon more magic random unguided chemicals inside of magic matter (in this case his brain matter) creating such a miraculous effect as proper logical inference and truth for which there is absolutely no evidence of any description whatsoever. " Man is not great " Peter Hitchens.
@hazeshi6779 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, and what would that say about God who we supposedly were made in the image of... 🤔
@adamvicari3295 Жыл бұрын
This debate should be titled 4 retards vs. a real intellectual. It is shameful that in the 21st century people still believe this nonsense, and the 4 frauds and con men on stage are shameful ignoramuses whose whole purpose is to deliberately dupe and mislead indoctrinated and credulous people who have never been exposed to anything other than a dusty old 3,000 year old book that they have been told from the day they were born was the only thing they needed to know, and hitchens, one of the great truth bearers on this subject, went too soon.
@yomilalgro Жыл бұрын
It wasn't at all 'brave' for Hitchens to attend this discussion. It was an opportunity for Hitch to educate, humiliate and honor them with his presence!!! I swear Craig is such a douchebag with all his babble. 🤣🤣 No real challenge for Hitch, he out wits, and shines everytime! I've yet to meet his genius equal. The greatest orator, wordsmith, and comedic delivery, I've ever witnessed. I will forever listen to him, miss him, and so grateful for the best professor I've ever had! Cheers to the late great Hitch!!!🍻🥂
@Johnsmith-pd3uk Жыл бұрын
10000% agree. I've watched this and other Hitchens debates multiple times. Read his books multiple times. He was a master that truly left this earth too soon. I wish more idiots, I mean religious people would hear him and break the disgusting cycle of hate, fear, self loathing, and violence caused by their beliefs in a celestial boogeyman
@User0000000000000004 Жыл бұрын
It's not bravery when you're the only heavyweight in the room, it's merely a workout.
@jasonwiley798 Жыл бұрын
Christopher hitchens was the bill Buckley of the left.
@DaenerysStormborn-cw5ws7 ай бұрын
He didn't even need to crack a sweat. A lion against 5 mice.
@SB-iw8bi9 жыл бұрын
The most interesting part of this debate was the part regarding the cosmological constants and the "fine tuning" of the universe and so on. This is an argument that falls on its own unreasonableness. The vast majority of the universe is fiercely inhospitable to life, or at least carbon-based life, due to radiation, temperature, gravity, and so forth, i.e. not fine-tuned by any means. And it is mind-boggling in the first place that people are surprised to find themselves on a planet that allows for life. Nobody will ever find themselves asking that question on a planet that does *not* allow for life. It is a self-fulfilling, circular, recursive argument which, of course, is and always will be the very trademark of unjustified and wishful thinking, more commonly known as religion.
@LtColVenom4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It's Douglas Adam's water puddle on cosmological scope.
@Preservestlandry Жыл бұрын
And even most of our planet is unlivable because we can't breathe underwater.
@yomilalgro Жыл бұрын
Bravo! 👏👏👏
@georgebarr5102 Жыл бұрын
Exactly if it was that fined tuned by a celestial smart arse- he’d have bolted on a meteor deflector We are fkd
@Johnsmith-pd3uk Жыл бұрын
Are you sure we aren't on a flat disc being held up by four elephants per Terry Pratchett?
@stephanieryan3331 Жыл бұрын
There are times when you come across a person who was ahead of their time, this man's intellect was wasted on these people I believe his words if said today could change the world.
@User0000000000000004 Жыл бұрын
They were, they didn't. You can't dislodge ignorance.
@DaenerysStormborn-cw5ws7 ай бұрын
If there ever was a man who was OF his time, that would be Christopher.
@2006glg Жыл бұрын
The dude at the podium started this off with a near minute long commercial for their magazine subscriptions. That informed me of the caliber of the "thought leaders" on that stage sitting with Christopher.
@AFMMarcelD6 жыл бұрын
Who else fast forward to hear only the great Christopher Hitchens rhetoric? Christopher's patience dealing with these imbecilic deluded morons is amazing..May his mellifluous voice continue to enlighten the thinking man for thousands of years! Oh Yes!!
@user-xp9vg7hp4h9 ай бұрын
Hitchens makes his arguments in such a way that its very hard not to take his side. Beautiful mind! Thanks for the wisdom.
@johnwestcott56122 жыл бұрын
“We’re gonna need more apologists.”
@Ometecuhtli Жыл бұрын
And more of these "moderators".
@tubapracticelog9618 Жыл бұрын
@@Ometecuhtli "And more magazine subscriptions."
@MegaSaddened10 жыл бұрын
Christopher we have lost an amazing man!
@callravik3 жыл бұрын
This discussion is really hilarious, comical! I am not sure how Mr. Hitchens could keep his composure and not roll on the floor laughing. These guys in suits making these jokes with a straight face is really entertaining. They actually belive what they are saying :)
@stubrechner5902 жыл бұрын
never...never will we come even close to seeing the likes of our precious hitch
@doddridge121 Жыл бұрын
No proof of supernatural power, thousands of gods created by humans in our short time on this planet, a panel of faith believers, and 1 genius. We miss you Christopher.
@ronaldmacpherson33457 ай бұрын
Hitchens has more ethics; more conviction; more sense ; and more intellectual courage then anyone in this room
@SeptemberAdam5 ай бұрын
Careful now. He's not all that infallible. No human being is. I know I ain't.
@mikewiz105411 ай бұрын
Never thought I would hear this from a Christian at 31:52: “Atheism is for the strong and intelligent. Christianity is for those that are not strong and not intelligent.” Yep. Nailed it. Think about this for a second…Hitchens wasn’t born with all that knowledge…he gained it by being a voracious reader…and he was doing that while these 4 weak and dumb men were in church listening to a revered with a high school education give the same ridiculous sermons. One chose knowledge, the others chose ignorance. So, it’s not that Christians are weak and unintelligent, it’s that they CHOOSE to be weak and unintelligent.
@TurnerBoneHead Жыл бұрын
When Sam Harris accused Christians of playing tennis without the net, this is what he was talking about. On the one hand they say the father raped his daughter in a dungeon because God gave him free will and it would be a slippery slope to intervene. Then later when Christopher said he was hardwired to love his daughter they said it's because God hardwired/programmed him that way. It's hard to think on your feet when it's 1 vs 5 but I wish he would have pointed out that if God hardwired him to love his daughter then he also hard wired the man to rape and torture his daughter.
@AussieGoblin6182 жыл бұрын
Hitchens "we should outlearn racism" Priest "why?"
@dingdongism Жыл бұрын
The preacher, if you didn’t know, meant that as an epistemic challenge. You’re straw manning him here for a giggle. Which I gotta say doesn’t live up to the standard Hitchens set in this and all his other debates.
@nthatomalope Жыл бұрын
@@dingdongism Christ! Relax Doug 🙄. We both know Hitch would've given the comment a 👍🏿.
@ruzzworth11 жыл бұрын
Hitchens on the top of his game here. Dude is killing it! Love it when anybody makes Lane Craig look like an idiot.
@Johnsmith-pd3uk Жыл бұрын
Craig doesn't need any help with that. It happens as soon as he opens his mouth. "If it's even POSSIBLE that there is a universe where Santa Claus exists, it therefore proves that Santa Claus exists!" Better make sure I'm on the nice list!!!
@Johnsmith-pd3uk Жыл бұрын
Craig makes it too easy
@penguinboy5618 ай бұрын
Craig's strategy seems to be to overwhelm the opposition with so many logical fallacies that your brain just shuts down.
@DemersLawyer7 ай бұрын
Skillfull psychobabble numbs the mind.
@ramanathdas70582 жыл бұрын
Sad to hear Christopher coughing. I miss him everyday.
@stevieh481010 жыл бұрын
Love watching this. This is before Hitch got sick. Hitch kicked ass in this debate.
@matimus100 Жыл бұрын
Love ?
@tulpas93 Жыл бұрын
@@matimus100 Look it up. You are already on the internet!
@przebieglabrukiew9 жыл бұрын
Now I've seen many Hitchens's debates and I think it's impossible to beat him in a discussion. Never seen it happen and can't imagine what it would look like.
@funnyfromadam5 жыл бұрын
Tunnel vision?
@patrickkelly70855 жыл бұрын
see George Galloway
@erikmarleymusic5 жыл бұрын
@@patrickkelly7085 Hitchens won that one too. By far.
@germansambucety97932 жыл бұрын
Look up his debate with lennox. He conceded I think
@woodytheduke Жыл бұрын
@@germansambucety9793 lennox debated in front of his congregation and Hitchens conceded based on the religious audience applause
@bartlettbigx2 жыл бұрын
It genuinely worries me when I hear grown men, educated and civilized men like those on the panel, (apart from Hitchens) speak like mad cultists. It's totally alien to me to hear people talking that way. If you put any of those guys on a street corner in a ragged robe, with long greasy hair, saying exactly the same words you'd cross the road to avoid them, or tell a policeman. They have no answer to Hitchens' arguments which clearly frustrates him because instead they offer nonsense. They are bad faith interlocutors.
@BunkumAndTripe12 жыл бұрын
From about 35 minutes in until Hitchens stops speaking proves to me that he was a masterful rhetorician. Sometimes I imagine his monologues in another accent and, though they lose a little something, they are still powerful and moving. Fuck cancer.
@myfriendisaac11 ай бұрын
49:39 The orangutan comparison was perfect, as if he needed a celestial dictator to care for his own children 🤷🏾♂️😂🦧
@Gazzar12 жыл бұрын
"The Christians outnumber us four-to-one. Good odds, for any atheist." - Hitch / Leonidas
@Sonder88 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE Christopher. Amazing man.
@carolmarks8210Ай бұрын
All these years later,knowing what we know now, every time Christopher coughs, my stomach clenches. How I wish this man was here today. He is so needed.
@luedieniel11 жыл бұрын
Craig truly is a proper fool.
@tailwindsaloft12 жыл бұрын
Just hit me to. So sad, and yet he stays resolute in his integrity and detailed discussion. He was such a sharp mind.
@Feralus6912 жыл бұрын
Whenever WLC says "intellectual" I have an uncontrollable urge to plant my face into my palm.
@laminatka15598 жыл бұрын
I would not want to be sitting in that seat at the time. By which I means the 4 fellers sitting next to Hitch.
@sendnoodles54372 жыл бұрын
One sharpened kitchen knife in a drawer full of rusty spoons
@GlowingMpd Жыл бұрын
👍🤣😂😅
@haydenwalton2766 Жыл бұрын
where did he get the strength !
@2msystems740 Жыл бұрын
You mean hitchen knife...
@XYisnotXX Жыл бұрын
"Man is not great" Peter Hitchens
@haydenwalton2766 Жыл бұрын
@@XYisnotXXmaybe not, but at least he exists
@r.i.p.volodya9 ай бұрын
This whole thing is 5 against 1 and yet Hitchens is the only one to demonstrate morality.
@Bgtrfvcde Жыл бұрын
Hitchens was not unlike a US F-22; he took out four opponents that never saw him coming.
@homesweethomeexchange61610 ай бұрын
Love this :-)
@dominic99839 жыл бұрын
There's something I've never understood about how Christopher responded to the moral question, why doesn't he just concede that morality is subjective and part of an evolutionary process. It wouldn't put him on the back foot because surely the point is that modern imperfect humanism is inherently still better than the imaginary objectivity of bronze age religious doctrine, they always seem to work him into a corner with that one.
@contactkeithstack8 жыл бұрын
+Maestro Gee yeah I've wondered something similar, I feel like you could say even less than "subjective part of an evolutionary process". They act like it's a cornering question, but knowing where our morality comes from doesn't seem like an important question.
@dominic99838 жыл бұрын
contactkeithstack exactly, they present it as if it's an argument which somehow damages an atheistic world view but even if it was conceded that our morality is ultimately without any foundation it would prove nothing about the existence or non-existence of a God.
@contactkeithstack8 жыл бұрын
Maestro Gee yeah or the existence of the behavior we call moral.
@robalox28 жыл бұрын
That cough attack close to the 1 hour mark in the video....Damit :/
@erikmarleymusic5 жыл бұрын
I know :( you can notice it in many of his debates circa 09'/10'. so sad.
@Saddamuel12 жыл бұрын
Knowing what we know now, it's painful to see Hitchens coughing.
@jordanfedele824711 ай бұрын
That man near the start talking about soda fizzing up has completely lost his marbles
@goofyahhh25410 ай бұрын
😂
@koru97805 жыл бұрын
Please don't be dead Christopher.
@DrRyman2 жыл бұрын
Hitchslapped !! All of them
@paulmillbank36175 жыл бұрын
Most of what I'm listening to is incoherent babbling. I suffer through the Christian comments to hear the Hitchslap.
Look at William Craig Lane at 3:45... his face shows that he really thinks the whole crowd is applauding him 😆
@pyrespirit12 жыл бұрын
"The atheist has no basis for objecting to any kind of behaviour thoughout history." I have no basis? I don't want to be assaulted. I don't want to be murdered. I don't want to be oppressed. I recognize such things as unpleasant for myself. I have empathy, and I can easily extrapolate that what I find to be intolerable is also intolerable for others, and so I will not take any of those actions and I will condemn them when I see them.
@jpjrobot Жыл бұрын
Hitchens is brilliant.
@ATOK_3 жыл бұрын
It is so painful to listen to Lane Craig
@VytenisR14 жыл бұрын
They should do one about Santa Claus too
@jangcho15372 жыл бұрын
Religious people have no shame in admitting that they would believe absolutely anything in the absence of evidence.
@fxsrider9 жыл бұрын
As usual, starts off with a sales pitch. I miss Christopher
@bleach21911 жыл бұрын
Not going to count the moderator? The dude kept injecting his beliefs in so often I was starting to think he was one of the speakers instead of the moderator.
@mariadelpilar159015 күн бұрын
I read the Bible when I was 13 and I was excited. I felt I would become enlightened and that it would change my world. Instead, I was horrified and deeply disturbed by the intense cruelty sprinkled throughout its pages. I sobbed for hours and never picked it up again. I know that Love is the only think that is real and eternal and the Christian God like his messengers use Love as an enticement, but nothing more which is why they allow slavery and genocide and the rampant abuse of children to bend to its very cruel will. I don't want to go to heaven. When I am in a state of love, I am already there.
@waynemizer4912 Жыл бұрын
If Jesus died for your sins why are you still born in sin?
@GodlessReason12 жыл бұрын
4 vs hitch - and they're still outnumbered.
@woodytheduke3 жыл бұрын
5 against one and he still won
@hank.hacking3 ай бұрын
This is the hardest Hitch debate for me. The second hand embarrassment from a whole table of dudes getting trounced by one guy is historic in this one.
@samdg12343 ай бұрын
Really? Tell me, if you will, what do you think Hitch's view is toward the fine-tuning argument? He starts at ~1;40;34 where he says, that he, "fails completely to see the force of this argument." What do you think his actual thinking is toward the fine-tuning argument?
@douglaswmcgavin8509 Жыл бұрын
Make it right... now. Dignity is needed in life . To think you get later is a waste.
@BrianBattles4 жыл бұрын
Another astounding argument for Christianity: it gives hope to the feeble and stupid. My head hurts.
@Ometecuhtli Жыл бұрын
And money to those who can't have a proper job.
@Eventhorizon112212 жыл бұрын
5v1? Why give Hitchens such an advantage?
@betweenthegrooves12032 ай бұрын
Even with a cough, EVEN being significantly outnumbered by those who oppose him on the panel, EVEN being at the mercy of a somewhat impartial moderator, and EVEN being in the "Lamb's" den as it were at a Christian-centric event...Hitchens STILL bodies everyone there. An absolute masterclass of argument and oration.
@jonnowds3 ай бұрын
Watching this now, whenever’Low-Bar’ Bill Craig opens his mouth, all I hear is, “I just believe it because I want it to be true.”
@ianschulze14617 жыл бұрын
07:53 Hitch's reaction is priceless.
@lazylenni1017 Жыл бұрын
49:40 The christian side already assumes, that SOMEONE must have hardwired human beings. Now, how did they already get to asking "who", instead of what or how? That already seems like an unreasonable jump in logic! This is just one of many unbased religious claims in this discussion.
@bensonbrett306 күн бұрын
1:02:04 “How moral is it to say your created sick and then commanded on pain of horrible torture to cure yourself” There are many moments where Christopher shreds bad ideas in a matter of seconds with the best logic a human can create normally after hours of thought, but in his case on the spot. That’s brilliance on display.
@penguinboy5618 ай бұрын
The hosts had real balls to invite Hitchens and only send 4 apologists out to meet him.
@MrTonyInchpractice11 жыл бұрын
love how the faithful NEVER mention this hitch-craig meeting. without the strict debate format to hide behind, just another christian, and with all the depth and glitter of a worn dime.
@Romamb2 жыл бұрын
I had to slow down the play speed in order to take in what Craig was saying. That dude spoke atrociously during that debate. Regardless of one's position on the topic, it is incomprehensible that anyone could ever take that man seriously. If you listen to what he says, each and every one of his arguments do not stand up to question whatsoever.
@JohnStraussmusic11 жыл бұрын
that was good. nicely put
@pinball19708 ай бұрын
Hitch was so natural. All that information at his fingers and put so eloquently. Beautiful Hitch. RIP, we will take it from here sir
@DaenerysStormborn-cw5ws7 ай бұрын
He practiced a lot. Like any great orator, he honed his material over time. But it helps when you're twice as smart as anybody else in the room and all they can do is spout nonsense.
@puyrm11 жыл бұрын
I love Hitch's body language in this debate (constant folding of arms)
@reuben9888 жыл бұрын
Only 4+ the moderator?? I miss Christopher Hitchens a lot.
@SleepyPenguin-8og2 ай бұрын
The difference between christopher and the rest is hes being honest. Not only with himself but with the audience as well.
@samdg1234Ай бұрын
At 1:40:34, Hitch says that he "fails completely to see the force of this argument." Is that him being honest with himself or the audience?