Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Recovery Discussion with Doctor Olivia Lesslar

[@kathystoner5239]

This was a really great interview! Thanks so much for this interview! I almost thought of sending this interview to my GP. When I first saw him a few years ago he thought I was depressed( I was depressed because I couldn't do anything). I just saw him recently and he has more patients with this illness. He acknowledged that CFS is severely debilitating and severe He then talked about reading about a guy who had CFS and the things he tried to get better. It made me realize how far he had come in acknowledging that this is a real illness and that he had taken time to read up on it.

[@Childeagrestis]

Great interview, very rewarding and interesting. The bit that really clicked for me was the realisation that even if my CFS was caused by an infectious virus, since there is no known direct treatment for that virus we have no choice but to find ways to let our immune system do the work for us. In that way we are no different to how people are having to let their own immune systems deal with covid-19. The doctor as personal trainer not magician really makes sense to me, and helps me understand what you mean when you say the solution has to come from you not externally. I shall now go and sit outside in the sun with my bare feet on the earth!

[@juliestevenson9151]

What a lovely lady and I wish I could have had this knowledge years ago and also I think that there is a lot of negative people who just hinder us and it takes. a lot to get back up and try to keep going to when you just want to crawl in a ball and give up

[@gingerztube]

All the info in this interview is spot on from my experience! I'm in my 12th year of CFS, didn't get diagnosed with mold illness until a little over a year ago. But I am recovering now finally, it is so true that doing the basics (healthy diet, good sleep, calming the nervous system & getting some sun daily) is essential to support the body's ability to heal. I went to like 14 doctors before I found someone that believed my symptoms were real & knew how to help me. Like Dr. Olivia mentions here the life lessons that I have learned through having this illness will be remembered the rest of my life! I lived a very stressful life before I got ill, I got 2 episodes in a row of really bad bronchitis where I was prescribed antibiotics and didn't know I was also working in a moldy building. So the antibiotics wiped out my gut bacteria & my immune system couldn't deal with the mold exposure on top of that. It has been a long, long journey to get to where I am now, but I'm not sure I would change anything because I like who I am now and I live a much more peaceful life than I did before CFS.Thanks for this upload, it is very healing & validating to hear this information from a doctor :-)

[@RaelanAgle]

Very interesting about the neuroinflammation, I wasn't aware of this! Thanks so much to you both for conducting this interview and shedding more light on this illness.

[@loobylouboti]

This was EXCELLENT. TY Toby for setting this up. It's 'nice,' to have such a caring, understanding actual Doctor chatting to you on such a down to earth level about CFS/M.E. How refreshing! Can't say which bits really stood out for me. Most of what was talked about was 'just,' really confirming what we (I,) already know.. But I think this is why I enjoyed this so much. To have an MD confirming that what you do within your program, *is* the approach to be taken in order to support the body through this illness, is comforting. To have an MD and not a 'functional Dr,' who fully supports the info of how important nutrition is INC the ingestion of organic foods wherever possible is also refreshing. I actually also really liked what Dr Lesslar had to say in support of GP's in that TBF, it's not really their fault that so many of them don't have the time for those of us with ME/CFS/Fibro, or indeed the time to research the info re: nutrition, grounding ETC and the important parts these sorts of practices *do* actually play within our mental and physical health...Rather than being quick to dismiss as 'hippy dippy,' or 'snakeskin oil,' ETC. I actually gave my GP (I'm in the UK,) the info. pack (and DVD,) from the OHC in London, who like Toby specialise in CFS/M.E Recovery..She gave it back to me some weeks later saying that she had not watched the DVD, never intended to, and the info. within the pack was offensive to her as a GP, and that 'these kind of places just took advantage of people who were ill and whom will do anything to get better.' I was so shocked, and it made it very apparent the kind of person and more importantly kind of Dr that she was choosing to be, that I haven't bothered trying to inform her anymore. IMO, how does anyone grow and learn without being open to new ideas? I heard somewhere, I think from a Dr maybe on YT (probably whilst doing research regarding CFS before I found Toby,) that; "Any good scientist will tell you that what is known, is far outweighed by what they don't know." Pride stunts our growth! I would absolutely love for you to do another interview and/or, Q&A with Dr Lesslar. And I would be interested in what she thinks are the say, top 5 supplements she would recommend? (I also liked and agreed with what she said about supps. and their place in CFS recovery/support.) My issue with supps. is that I don't want to take too many supps, and have my body rely on them, so that when they are taken away, the symptoms would flare up again. Hence my reluctance to take too many supps. other than the B-Complex, Vit D (with K,) and Magnesium I take. Anywho, long comment, ha, :) Great interview, thoroughly enjoyed it, and looking forward to hearing info. on the collab. it appears you two are gonna be doing??! Thanks to Dr Lesslar on being such a compassionate MD and person, and thanks to Toby for EVERYTHING you do for this community!

[@anewmomstrong1874]

Great interview! I took a lot of notes. I’m so glad Toby has access to positive people like this to continue CFS Awareness and hope! It’s so crucial.

[@factitiously]

It's nice to know that there are more doctors out there who understand the disease. I really wish, though, that this had been a more step-by-step guide on how to get better. We've all heard the psychological aspect on the channel and the general idea of how to get better. What would be most helpful would be to have her lay out and have you lay out in a separate video what physical approaches you take to healing the disease in patients i.e. specifics of sleep hygiene, specifics of nutrition, specifics of supplements, specifics of exercise/movement, specifics of herbal remedies, specifics of any drugs used, etc...

[@loobylouboti]

That sounds like an awfully long video?!! Ha! In any case, he did say they'll probably do another one or two videos together (and hinted at them working together,) and ofc Toby's program *does* indeed take you through all the specifics. 👍

[@factitiously]

@@loobylouboti yeah he wants you to pay for the information, but won't even give you an idea of what it is before you sign up and pay.

[@loobylouboti]

@@factitiously He gives you an idea in the many, many, many videos he has on You Tube and Facebook. If you want specifics, then why not invest in your future and sign up?

[@salsajaffas]

enjoyed this thanks would really like to hear more from Dr Olivia.

[@Cass-bd3sm]

So glad that cfs is being looked into further, I was diagnosed in 2017 and that was it. I've been left to manage on my own, gp prescribed amitriptyline for leg pain and that's it. No support or consultant to see how I'm progressing. Hopefully in a few years the UK will pull its socks up.

[@tessgirl383]

How can I stop my Post viral fatigue stop I had COVID 19 turning in to CFS ? . 4 weeks ago

[@danashannon8234]

What is the hope? Look at Whitney Dafoe & Ron Dravis.... At least Ron is doing research but there still are no answers or treatment & CFS patients are turned away from doctor to another to another. We go in circles and are told to exercise and eat right. Its so much more complex.

[@CFSHealth]

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