Royal Enfield Himalayan 650 spy shots | Everything you need to know

[@toddclarke2348]

I have the Himmy 450 and absolutely love it. The gear box is phenomenal. So smooth. Suspension is plush and the bike is so easy to ride. A bigger version does not interest me. Doesn't make sense to make a bigger version in my opinion. The 450cc engine on the himmy is plenty and makes great fuel economy for all day rides. After 2500kms the 450cc engine starts to open up and comes to life.

[@VAMPS000]

Does it lack power in highways ?

[@bulthaosen1169]

This one is an adventure tourer. The 450 is a adventure into the wilds bike.

[@hakshayak2044]

40 bhp isnt enough? ​@@VAMPS000

[@tonyrdr7207]

Agreed I will be forever grateful to RE for bringing back the small capable and realistically priced adv bikes. Like you I have no interest in the bigger more powerful trend. Having said that it depends on on how one uses the bike if they are using it more as a touring bike an usually do no more then well formed gravel then it makes more sense. And yes there will be some stubborn people there will take them off the beaten track regardless.

[@lostworld5667]

It may be good but it's ugly

[@Werkar27]

I may not know a lot about the bike but, one thing I can say for certain is that the chain slack is 54mm 😂😂

[@johnkelleher3174]

😂

[@emmanuelmartin1238]

That's my favorite chain slackness.

[@marcovchb]

😂😂😂

[@jeffreyharkness8551]

Yes, we see that, and the pictures are good, and everything else about the motorcycle is speculation, if Royal Enfield actually builds the motorcycle. The internet rumor mill is full of speculation. Some of it comes true. Such as the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450.

[@jimbob67]

It's a simple aircooled engine, easier to service, and keeps the ownership costs down. Something that can not be said for most bikes now.

[@podunkman2709]

Looks primitive, heavy, outdated

[@fernandosantos5975]

Exactly, looks perfect. ​@@podunkman2709

[@gasdive]

Service interval for a RE 650 is 5000 km. For a V-Strom 650 it's 12,000 km and they're 14k ride away with the tubeless spoke wheels. You need to change the coolant every 4 years.

[@Bicycle_Fungi]

I like the headlight/fairing/screen design aesthetic 👍🏻 I think you are nailing these speculative bike release news updates 👊🏻

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Thanks mate

[@danielpolk3866]

The market version will pop your eyes out with color and finishing touches in true RE fashion.

[@Gokul-qk4un]

Engine fins on this bike has higher count than regular 650s. If you see closely you can see the difference. If it is same power, I doubt why RE would invest in a second discs at the front. Discs on the newer Himalayan and other new REs are good. So this might be a higher capacity bike from RE.

[@matusknives]

Also - and I may be mistaken - the oil (?) radiator is larger than the one on current 650 RE models. So maybe it is a 750, or the engine was tuned for higher power.

[@thematturlookingfor]

This thing could end up being a really awesome combination of a KLR, DR, and T7 which would be absolutely sick. Looks like it's still relatively thin. Could be an absolute beast, super excited.

[@MTBrider26]

Clearly a taller cylinder with 3 extra cooling fins over the 650 motor. My money is on a 750 or even an 800cc motor of around 70HP which is what a lot of other companies are doing. The only other air cooled adventure bike of this capacity is the Moto Guzzi V85TT but it will be much cheaper than the Guzzi which does have shaft drive as well. It will have bags of character for sure.

[@bernibeckmann9753]

I count 7 fins. The 650 only has 4 fins?

[@MTBrider26]

@bernibeckmann9753 l could be wrong and the increase in cylinder height could be the result of the engine being designed as a long stroke 650 twin with endless torque just like the original 411 Himalayan.

[@2006Whippet]

Yeah, the shaft drive is what led me to getting the V85tt. That and cruise control.

[@MalHanson]

@7:58 It's a very different chassis than the Bear 650 - single rear shock.

[@robpinter5431]

Air cooled 650 ADV bike with switchable ABS.....and decent brakes yes please, a bit like an updated DR650 should be.

[@jerameelinit341]

2 cylinder fuel injected DR650

[@davidcauchi2837]

Happy New Year; looking forward to seeing the bike when it get here; David...Adelaide.... Triumph Scramblers 1200x & 900.....

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Happy new year David 👍

[@billcotton1551]

Hope you have a great 2025, Solid! Keep bringing us the bike news. Always look to your channel for updates like this.

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Thanks Bill 👍

[@sinalco54]

In Europe, you can reduce engine power in order to drive the motorcycle with A2 license. A2 license basically means that you cannot ride motorcycles that have more than 48 hp. And then later than you pass the exam for unlimited engine power, you can go to the workshop and open full power. This is quite common. So I don’t think that would be an issue with 750 cc.

[@davidc1961utube]

This bike looks more like an upgraded or upsized 411, whereas the 450 is an "offroaded" 411. The 450 is for a very different rider. I would definitely prefer 21/18 tubeless on an ADV tourer, if only to maximize tire options. The gearing will also be an important aspect that only test riding will evaluate. Looking forward to your opinion after riding one. Cheers from the US!

[@nosoymrcrisi]

First time I see it. Love the retro look. I've had a 411 for 2 years and I'm still in love, but this one could be my next RE. I don't know if you mentioned it, but it looks like the windshield is adjustable. Thanks for the video!

[@MikMech]

Will need to have plenty of power to compensate for the 'Enfield Weight'.

[@jamespegram8843]

I have had 411 himi as a daily ride for the last 4 years, also I have a 650 conti as a weekend toy, I've always thought RE should shoe horn a 650 engine into a himi frame. It handles bumpy crappy British roads better than the conti rolling chassis. 🇬🇧

[@kai-uweoch1159]

No bike for me. A year ago I sold my Norden 901 and bought a 701 Enduro. Had the Himalayan 450 been available at that time I might have consideredit, but my 701 is already 35kg lighter, after adding the accessories I wanted. The 650 willbe quite a bit over 200kg ib the same region as the Norden, but with significantly less power. No thanks, I love the combination of 75hp and 165kg. It does not get better than that for me. The times of heavy bikes are gone for me.

[@RichardReeve_K1W1]

So you have totally ingnored the single biggest change to the platform, the single rear shock. Did you actually look at the photos?

[@GIGABACHI]

They need to pony up and install tubeless wheels as OEM equipment. I like it, looks kinda retro and organic.👌 2:34 Reminds me a little of the NORDEN 901. People complaining about it being a 2 cyl PT are just jealous 450 owners. 😝

[@_hold_the_line_]

They should've built a modern DR650 competitor.

[@chroniclesofsolid]

If only

[@drd3816]

Ive owned two DR650's --one highly modified and toured on it. The Himmy 450 is the modern DR650 IMO--try it

[@cyclopathic998]

They did. It's called Himalayan 452!

[@collinslagat3458]

The Himalayan is heavy though

[@yorkchris10]

452 Rally - as good as you can make it

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

I have only one thought, I would love to see the Sherpa engine in a 270 twin 550-750 capacity variant. And where is my Himmy side stand replacement ? So two thoughts, I lied. Cheers

[@rohitchaturvedi2427]

Royal enfield had trademarked "Himalayan Tour" sometime back. I think this bike will be called such. And the engine will be >750cc. If RE can manage an 850, it will be great.

[@antoniocolagreco1483]

The 450 is a versatile motorcycle, but this version seems to sacrifice that versatility being noticeably heavier and larger. This bike feels more suited for highway use rather than being an all-rounder.

[@enriquejaimes3368]

That is perfect so they don't compete with each other

[@Vimeet-tc3ek]

With a close observation at the chassis at 11:01, the engine in the Himalayan 750/650 isn't going to be suspended inside a double cradle frame. There is a high chance that RE may go ahead with a trellis frame sort of a chassis design where the engine would be a part of the frame (similar to the Him-450). The advantage would be again less weight as compared to the existing 650s with a double cradle frame.

[@adamusher]

A good Baseplate is more about rocks being flung up, and some protection for side cases. Most lower frame tubes won’t take banging over logs and rocks. What’s the telescopic cylinder on the outside of the fork leg?

[@jala6707]

Thanks for the great overview. Just out of interest: where is that 750cc-rumour coming from?

[@seauryakumar]

Indian media and also the most reliable Autocar India

[@MickH60]

In those shots the engine looks different, compare it to the 650...

[@cj83harry]

Have you seen the new CCM Project X? That looks pretty cool 😎

[@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies]

I've watched the talk of RE Himalayan 650 for years and years. I'll certainly keep hoping, but I imagine you'll understand when I say I'm not holding my breath until it comes out.

[@JagLite]

The frame on the 650/750 Himi is different than the Bear/GT/Interceptor to accommodate the single shock in the rear and the front appears to be a single down tube while the other 650's use twin down tubes. From the pictures it appears that the frame may not wrap under the engine and only the skid plate protects the motor. That is very common now and saves weight and money. I think the bike will be heavier than the other 650's but it has more "stuff" too and that adds weight even with a lighter frame. I would like to see RE jump the 750 competition and offer all the twins as either a 650 or an 865, at the same price! After al the bigger bore won't coast any more to make really. By offering both engine sizes the bikes will appeal to both newer riders and those with open licenses. Selling both engine sizes would be little different than selling the bikes in the different color schemes.

[@johnscott6984]

An observation made on one of the forums is the engine has an additional row of cooling fins - so an increase in stroke? If so it's probably bigger than a 650. I think it's going to be a successful model but, in my opinion, RE needs to at least offer tubeless rims as an option.

[@ChrisBOMtoATL]

2025 is the year most if not all manufacturers will sell AdVS since they know what riders want off lately

[@ADingoTookMyDasco]

Royal Enfield really needs to put on their big boy pants & release a 750cc or 800cc powered bike & a new Himalayan would be the perfect opportunity. I've been very tempted by the Himaalayan & Geurilla 450's & the Bear 650, but I only do light offroading & looking at my Svartpilen 401 I can't see any compelling reason to switch, other than aesthetics. A more powerful motorcycle would change that, and would give existing owners some sort of upgrade path & would likely help sales in the US.

[@awabac]

I’d give it a go. I owned a 411, and I tested the 450. I was intrigued and have seriously considered getting one. Curious - I wonder why the Versys 650 isn’t really mentioned in the Adv-Touring conversations. I would love to compare my Versys with the Himi 650.

[@scamperstephen4811]

Question do you know anyone that has turned a Ag 200 into an adventure bike ? Would it be a good bike to head off into the bush with ?

[@jaygrafton3048]

There appears to be a new type of mount for rear panniers.

[@erictaylor1866]

Honda has a 750 adventure bike 🏍 with engine rotated lower for a low center of gravity. Maybe good to copy?

[@chroniclesofsolid]

If only they would put tubeless wheels and cruise on the 750 Transalp.

[@lachy1709]

Look forward to seeing your 450 video

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Riding it this coming Wednesday 👍

[@VinayKumar-db4qz]

Same ingredients, different recipes, that's the RE mantra.

[@Moemix27]

Really hope for a 21 18 wheels, or at least a 21 17

[@martinsmith9054]

Twin front discs on a RE at last. They should offer it as an option on some of the other models.

[@ripmax333]

Above the 200kg WET would be painfully heavy for me, too bad because from the spy shots, it looks like a very nice motorcycle.

[@gemoaM21]

Why chain sprockets look so small

[@bigjoe4020]

I am in the market for a ADV tourer, avoid dirt as much as I can but want to be able to do it when I have to. Comfort is my #1 concern, especially CC and seat. At 115kg naked (me not the bike) I need something with a bit of guts so I don't think RE has anything for me even with this new 650.

[@Horsetrainer420]

Would this be built to compete with the new 390 ktm? Hp/performance wise it’s probably going to be close

[@adamclarke1105]

This bike will be competing against the vstrom 650. It would have to be something special to be better. I like Royal Enfield but prefer their rugged and classical look. This more modern look doesn’t really set it apart from the rest of the market.

[@elitecorsair]

750cc makes the most sense in the US when riders nearly have to ride the interstate system to get anywhere

[@samhill3496]

They need to up it to compete or at least be in the 750 class bikes. Now the 650 is a production engine and readilyvavailable wothout new certufucations worldwide. That is expensive and if it is a 750 this will be recorded by market governments. All in time. Hope 750 Also gives it more distance up the ladder from the 450's. All good from east Kentucky USA

[@stevieneilson2451]

All the RE'S have been a hit with sales and the "genuine riders so I can see this being another smash! I laugh at the haters as these are usually the people that ride around 1k per year..🤣

[@scamperstephen4811]

With the learner’s LAMs approved question! Would it make more sense to make the same bike with different models ? Like the Yamaha Rd 250 V Rd 350 ? yes I’m showing my age now

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Companies today are all about having a modular platform to save on costs. If they could do an RD250 and 350 with the same engine then yes. If they cant they wont bother. Usually they can sleeve down the bike to make it LAMs compliant. All depends on R&D, costs, and if they care enough.

[@scamperstephen4811]

@ All I can see is , it would be a win win in marketing , a couple of changes to the brakes ect

[@pawelwolski1316]

I have GT650 and Hunter 350. I like smaller bikes. Tried both 411 models, that engine was just no go. My 350 J engine in the Hunter is a thing of beauty. A 350 Himalayan could have been sweet. Updated chassis and dashboard, try to keep it as light as possible. Probably would be a commercial flop, how can you go down in displacement........Anyways, I ended up with the MT450.

[@fatherted2260]

Ya lost me at the weight😮 may as well buy a wee strom.....

[@gasdive]

And they're asking WeeStrom money.

[@BackwardTravisty]

Gotta make sure to blur the rider's face to protect the bike, somehow.

[@hershchat]

A bike for 450 Himalayan owners to upgrade to, or for RE lovers to tour on. It is going to have to compete with the Versys 650, so better be top notch ergonomics, engine, transmission, and reliability. Pricing and charm will be the differentiators.

[@mar0364]

Make it a 750 and I'll look at it. I owned the 2018 Himalayan. It was good for what it was at the price point.

[@FXSTB]

From the perspective of a US rider, a place where big bikes sell, I think RE should consider 2 separate models, but I'm not sure a 750 is enough differentiation. At that point, it's gonna have to start competing with the Trans Alp, Vstrom 800, F900GS, Tiger 900, etc. If they want to make a big bike for western markets it's going to need a lot more punch OR it's going to need to be super light and VERY capable off-road. I don't agree with the mentality, but in this market, bigger is better. Himalayan 950 making about 90hp or bust.

[@stevenharris7788]

If it’s air cooled it will be fantastic probably get one

[@pskanp]

On looking closely rear shock looks differently placed, wondering the ease of adjustability. The needed spoked tubeless rims, if provided as accessory, will surely cost a bomb. Nevertheless was waiting for this bike since ages..

[@ajherd77]

Go the 750, R.E. Once made a 883cc bike. If they did, this would give Triumph a run for the money.

[@neverendingcarproject]

Funny, in the US anything over 50cc is the same motorcycle endorsement on your license. Probably not a bad idea if they changed that, I see a ton of people that could use the extra testing

[@ruahinesrider]

RE will do both 650 & 750cc models the 750 might only be on a few models.RE still hasn't used the Constellation name yet which was a 700 & 750cc & model before Interceptor so could be just a spruced up Interceptor but 750cc with Constellation name maybe. Also RE likes to milk as much as they can out if the motors so 750 could be in everything as well as the Learner 650 which is there Bread & Butter.

[@markdowning4359]

The wet weight on my 2012 Triumph Tiger is 462 pounds and it has almost 100 horsepower. This new Himalayan at best is probably going to be 480 pounds wet with maybe 50 horsepower. Now... I know that it ain't all about horsepower. I've owned a Himalayan 411, I currently own a Triumph Scrambler 400x in addition to the Tiger, and both a brilliant machines. Point being, the only way this new Himalayan 650 is going to be successful is by being a bike that sells on its low price and its "character." The problem for Royal Enfield right now is that apparently the CF Moto 450 has set a pretty high bar for the low price adventure bike class. The competition in this class of motorcycles is heating up... If Triumph comes out with a Tiger 400 that is as brilliant as my Scrambler 400, I'll be one of the first in line to buy it.

[@MickH60]

The frame looks NOTHING like the bears frame, so I don't know how it can be "heavily based off the Bear 650", actually, the ONLY thing it has in common with the bear, in these shots, is the engine, and if you look close, that engine has different barrels and fin count to a 650, so even the engine is different....

[@stevencote7951]

Lacking a modern classic ADV? Moto Guzzi 850TT

[@joseaguirre7517]

They should build a Sherpa engine but 700c.c it would be outstanding! Simply Awesome anyway. Great, Right For this himalayan

[@timlubbers2884]

Tumamoto (here on KZbin) has a vid out saying it’s going to be/is a 750 … I guess ??

[@chrisb5986]

A 750 would be nice. I am certain that RE will roll with an existing motor in a new bike.

[@Buledoyanmotor]

The Bear 650 is already 216kg so i would bet on 230kg for this Himalayan 650 at least, like a Benelli TRK 502x or a Kawasaki Versys 650

[@frankschmaelter]

75o ccm with a little bit more power and torque would be great...❤

[@matusknives]

Weight will be most certainly 220+ kg Royal Enfield is yet to make a light weight bike. The 450 Himalyan was a new design and weight was apparently not a priority.

[@ronboe6325]

Who is it for?: I was hoping it was folks with longer inseams. Dang short people have ruined the market for us long legged riders. Out of the box I only fit dirt bikes and most adventure bikes - the rest, cockpit is too cramped. But looking at the last shot, perhaps not. Bummer.

[@jocon6656]

I think it's missing the mark. People like Enfield for the retro style and A2/learners are a huge slice of the pie. There's too many other, better options for a plastic faired, higher power bike.

[@Surly34]

The 650 seems to sit in a difficult position, not much more power than the 450 with a weight and price penalty, about the same weight and price as a V-Strom 650 without the power and known reliability.

[@davidezecchi450]

Ho avuto sia la 411 che la 450 adesso , pero sinceramente ora tutte queste himalayan mi cominciano a stancare

[@SanandanDA]

Some are saying it’s a 750.

[@benschofield7565]

Looks great. Commuter/workhorse/tourer for the no doubt, very reasonable price tag, it'll be hard to beat. No bike is perfect for everyone, and the poo-pooers are always the first to pipe up!

[@sagarthapa3765]

The front suspension isn't from 450 - it's adjustable.

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

And shorter stroke, but?

[@sagarthapa3765]

@@ShadowVonChadwick What? The shorter stroke on the front suspension? You mean the travel? Haha super confused.

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

@@sagarthapa3765 Yes, travel, but it's only travel if you're moving.

[@sagarthapa3765]

@@ShadowVonChadwick That's actually true. So, what about it?

[@m.r.8043]

*on **1:47** the box with wires on the pillion seat. I hope it isn't a battery 😅*

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Telemetry box for all the data 👍

[@gasdive]

Unless they price this similar to the Indian price, I can't see it. The retro engine might appeal to those trying to recapture someone else's youth, but adventure riders don't care. The V-Strom 650 is 14k ride away, with twice the power, less weight, Japanese build quality and 12k km service intervals. No one in their right mind is going to pay 12k plus another grand in onroads for a 40 hp air-cooled twin.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

Probably will weigh like 260kg and deliver 40hp

[@MickH60]

You don't seem to know much about bikes from that statement...

[@thecompanioncube4211]

@MickH60 I know about Royal Enfield bikes. My numbers might be slightly exaggerated I can accept, but you should look at their bikes like shotgun 650, or interceptor 650, which is the most likely base engine on which this bike will be built on. They're wayyyy too heavy for what power figures they produce.

[@gasdive]

​@@MickH60the existing road oriented RE 650s put out about 40 hp on the dyno. Some a little more, some a little less. If they tune it for torque it might make even less than that. The road 650 is 202 kg dry. This must be heavier, probably 220 dry. Add 25 kg for fuel and oils, and that's 245 kg. So just under a quarter of a tonne. So I think they're probably very close to the mark.

[@copuis]

i mean, it isnt hard to guess it will be a 650, and not a 750 these are most certainly a bike that appeals to both RE and R license holders, while the 750 would exclude the RE holders also, there is how many 650's in the royal enfield line up, loads, how many 750's none they use the engine over many line ups, and tend not to have a single engine/single line up

[@punkrockdidi]

A 750 wouldn't make any sense for RE. In a year or 2 maybe,but this year it would be to early... Everybody 'loves" the 650 and commercially it makes more sense

[@Fiatmannen1]

Re popular u say. Have to date seen 2 411 himis. Thats it. Live in sweden. Here they are not cheap enough to be an option.

[@krisz6329]

It seems air cooled, judging by the fins on the motor

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Yep, like all the 650s

[@mattmcewan5806]

Solid is the Royal Enfield your new next bike? After your comment, you will find out next week ? 😁

[@fatherted2260]

Sounz like it.....

[@beanzbeanz]

I think this is a scrambler in drag

[@NakaNakaDerkaDerka]

In aus LAMS bikes must be imported already restricted. You can remove the LAMS restrictions and it sets you back about 1k AUD including the remapping etc and new compliance numbers etc. unfortunately it’s a one way move. You cannot convert an u restricted to LAMS. To your point they about two models… a lot of manuf offer both versions and a lot don’t. Will RE… I doubt it.

[@whatsgoingon71]

It's gonna be close to a quarter ton...😅

[@patrolus1]

They are losing their design edge with this bike (if it is the final version -I hope not). That front looks like a lazy designer smashed a round headlight into the Transalp, on a Friday arvo, so he could knock off early and have a beer with his mates....So far the Himalayan's had a unique look...

[@UltralightMotorcycleCamping]

4:30 - Seems odd that promo shots presumably from Royal Enfield show a pillion girl accessory and she's wearing short shorts with no skin protection as the bikes are shown dragging pegs while carving tight corners in the mountains. Not even a sari guard on the rear wheel. Madness!

[@lipsee100]

I think it could be a 750 but with more or less the same Hp as the 650 ,,but also with whopping amounts of torque.... Thats the Himalayan way.

[@cyclopathic998]

Thx God we don't have this restricted license nonsense in US of A

[@andyackerman7123]

We have all kinds of restricted licenses, tho 🤔

[@davea9946]

No you just restrict books and abortions in freedom land.

[@MickH60]

You also have far more road deaths, and it seems there are also restrictions...

[@davea9946]

Why? Would it affect your manhood if you did?

[@cyclopathic998]

@@davea9946 it's called "freedom". Perhaps it's a completely foreign concept for where you are?

[@Sweens-o9l]

I think it’s going be simply way to heavy.

[@WyDave]

New 450 vs new 650, hmmmm. 450 liquid cooled ; 650 air cooled. So - rider preference is a great marketing choice. RE makes an engine platform and then uses it in many different bikes. So in my opinion I do not see it being a 750

[@MickH60]

Well, if you look closely at the pics here, and compare them to the 650 engine, you'll see the fin shape is different, and more rows of fins, leading me to believe that it's an updated/rated engine.... Whether that goes on to the production model is yet to be seen...

[@jamesraja1056]

I love 411😅

[@PauloGoncalvesGuimaraes]

Talking about power and Royal Enfield doesn't make sense. If you want a power 750 engine, you're not a proper Enfield fan. Royal Enfield it's all about experience and air cooling engines. That's what we want. If you want something else, just look in the other 99% market offer. It's simple.

[@whitecompany18]

Why would you have a sari guard on a prototype adventure bike 😂😂😂😂

[@whitecompany18]

Swing arm looks like an Amazon electric bikes

[@benjamin.f.b.]

because it s production ready

[@MalHanson]

Probably a legal requirement to ride it on the road/register it in India.

[@RonaldoHabibiDev]

@ROYALENFIELD Redesign the fairing #HYMALAYAN650. The appearance is poorly resolved, it looks neither retro nor modern... #redesign

[@unknownps]

Alright big boy steady on.. 😂 but yes i agree 750 would be better, but LAMS is

[@Pedrusko]

250kg 😈

[@MickH60]

There's NO WAY that's a 250kg bike, thats a noob comment...

[@Pedrusko]

@MickH60 Hyperbole, you rude ignorant.