Chronos: Before the Ashes | Review in 3 Minutes

[@theescapist]

For those worried about "spoilers", getting to the dragon is literally spelled out in the first few moments of the game. Showing the last boss really isn't the spoiler you think it is, and a very minor one at that.

[@melvinseron8007]

Fair enough then, my bad, sorry

[@pakudev]

Still a spoiler, it's not the same to know who is the last boss, than see him.

[@andrewpeto9842]

It's also the same dragon from Remnant. Not much of a spoiler. Always gonna get cry babies

[@Simbabweman]

To be fair I agree with the Hobbit reference. The goal from the beginning is to set out and defeat a dragon. Knowing who the final boss here may not be a spoiler but showing the battle is a spoiler.

[@roronoazoro9228]

last boss should stay secret, just saying... (y) you still making good videos

[@keeseman]

Chronos [dry heave] Before the Ashes

[@TaliaTheHybrid]

I wonder who thats a reference to >.>

[@michaelfranke8622]

Rules are rules

[@oscarchavez8527]

Sounds like the fact that it was VR originally impacted not only the combat, but also the graphics. Compared with Remnant, it looks pretty mediocre.

[@madeofnapalm]

Remnant IS mediocre looking to say the least..

[@noelmendoza3917]

@@madeofnapalm remnant is easily one of the best games right now... Im sure your opinion is based on playing it in normal difficulty, and then uninstalling. The expansion pack adds a really challenging game mode with friends, and the campaign is just straight up impossible once you raise the difficulty.

[@madeofnapalm]

@@noelmendoza3917 I was referring to the visuals only. As for the gameplay itself, TBH I only played about one hour, the game has nothing in it to keep me playing. Just my 2 cents.

[@Eunostos]

It looked mediocre in 2016 VR terms too. What traction it got was from people starving for content to latch onto.

[@sthlmsSouth]

Remnant got shitty graphics as well

[@joelb1299]

Remnant was an unexpected gem, which is probably why they moved this so it was more mainstream and not just VR. Haven't tried this yet, but will probably give it a go when the price drops.

[@SapphireDragon357]

Wait... This game was the predecessor to Gun Souls? That kinda blows my mind.

[@alexubel]

No...it's the predecessor to Remnant : From the Ashes by Gunfire Games.

[@SapphireDragon357]

@@alexubel r/whoooooooooooooooooosh

[@alexubel]

@@SapphireDragon357 There is no r/woosh when there is NO joke.

[@laidbacksosa4767]

alexubel there’s a whoosh because that’s what he meant by gun souls bud

[@SapphireDragon357]

@@alexubel I feel I was maybe a bit mean with the woooosh. Sorry. As Sosa pointed out, Gun Souls is a nickname for Remnant. Remnant is a Souls-like with guns, thus known to some, possibly even many, as Gun Souls.

[@JustBeingAlive]

Dear god... did you play this on 50% speed? This looks sooooo freaking sloooooow O_o

[@adr.k8676]

it is literally the speed of the game,its very boring.

[@felipebrasil5]

@@adr.k8676 don't tell me i 've bought this shitt ! the game is nice but the npcs are very resistents so you take 5 min to each one and if you die you have to kill them again. soooooooooooooooooh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh laaaaaaaaaaaame.

[@countlazuli8753]

It really is slow, I wish they had implemented the sprint from Remnant into this remaster.

[@U_F_N_M]

Fair review. This game doesn't seem to have ported well. I think they could have put the work in to bump up the speed of the overall game if they were going to be charging 2/3 of the price of the Remnant base game at launch. And to those complaining of the "Last Boss Spoiler", please know that this is a 5 year old game and that the last boss of Chronos is one of the first bosses of Remnant.

[@SubduedRadical]

"...and that the last boss of Chronos is one of the first bosses of Remnant." ...this is actually...NOT...true. At all. In any way. This is, in fact, COMPLETELY wrong. Though I could see why you might make the mistake. One of the two final bosses of the first world of Remnant (Earth) IS, indeed, a dragon, Singe. But it's not the same dragon. At all. In any way. SPOILER: . . . The dragon at the end of Chronos is a Root psychological manifestation which inhabited the mind of the FIRST Dreamer, the experimental, semi-psyonic children that the Human researchers learned could be used to see into other worlds. Earth, also known as "The Core", is the center world of Remnant's metaverse. It isn't supposed to connect to other worlds and is supposed to always be distinct from them. "Children of the Core" are IMPLIED to be more powerful than beings from other worlds, which is kind of implied in Remnant as the reason you're able to do all the crazy stuff you can do. They also aren't supposed to leave Earth, which is stated in the flavor text for the trait you get when you arrive on Rhun the first time that says something about Children of the Core being forbidden from leaving the Core, but that this break in the rules may be allowed to correct what rampant rule-breaking the Root has done. Well, that and the Red Stone making you immortal, of course. It's still not explained as far as I can tell, but somehow, the/a Red Stone got to Earth (or always was there), the Humans found it, and Dr. Hry deciphered it using the whispering voice in his head, which happened to be the Root's consciousness. This is how the Humans began to use the Dreamers. While the rest of the Dreamers seemed to link to the mind of Guardians from each world, Earth, The Core, has no need for a Guardian as it has no door to other worlds. But because of this, one of the Dreamers was linked to by the Root's core consciousness. As one of the item blurbs says in Remnant "The Dreamers...we thought they were windows. They were doors." This opened the path for the Root to invade Earth. The Dragon is simultaneously that consciousness AND its physical manifestation. It is the linked body and mind of the First Dreamer and of the Root's main consciousness, and the door through which all Root coming to Earth flowed...until it became old and weak and could allow only a few through, and, finally, until it was killed by Chronos. However, the Dreamer was very old - like over a hundred years old - by the time of Chronos. So the Root decided it needed a younger, healthier vessel and doorway. Its ability to send Root to Earth had trickled almost to a stop by the time of Chronos, with most of the Root that were there having been there for decades. Plenty of time to take out the Earth and kill most Humans, but now more or less with no reinforcements. This is also why you only find a few Root at the very end of Chronos AND why the Tree is helping Chronos out, since the Tree is ALSO of the Root, and basically is leading Chronos to kill the First Dreamer/Dragon, which you do at the end of the story, and then Chronos is promptly drugged and hooked up to the equipment in their place, becoming a new, younger, healthier doorway for the Root. Chronos is the Dreamer at the end of Remnant's base game that is fused with the Nightmare, so they are together the final boss of Remnant, pre-expansions. And killing them is what closes the doorway on the Root...well, once you finish Subject DLC (the last one) and kill Dr. H as well, truly cutting the Root off from Earth. . The Dragon at the end of Earth in Remnant is NOT the same Dragon. It's arguably the Root making an attempt to recreate a clone of sorts of Chronos' Dragon, but Chronos' Dragon was killed, with the help/will of the Root, so that Chronos and the Nightmare could take the place of the First Dreamer and the Dragon as the new door for the Root into Earth. Why the Root doesn't simply kill itself isn't clear, but is implied because they don't want to shut the door until they have a replacement Dreamer (Chronos) to use to open a new door. Simply having the First Dreamer/Dragon die with no replacement would risk cutting the Root off from Earth entirely, rather than the actual goal of having a new, young, healthy Dreamer to be a new door.

[@PaladinGear15]

I'm hoping to see a "enter at 18, finish the game at 18" ending. Presumably your character can die permanently of old age before succeeding their quest after all.

[@Makareno94]

Nah if you grow too old you'll gain IMMORTALITY perk, stopping you from aging

[@dossombras]

Oh, hearing that this was supposed to be VR is heartbreaking. THAT sounds like a great game. This game just looks alright.

[@BankaiEdje]

It's a port of the existing VR game

[@kavemanx420x]

It was a vr game originally as he said.

[@JoyTuub]

Just started playing this game from the new Playstation extra list. I loved Remnant, so it's cool seeing their first venture like this. There's a certain quality to the camera and controls that definitely feels disconnected and patched to fit consoles rather than VR. Overall I'm enjoying it, and wouldn't mind seeing them expand on the melee fantasy side more in their next game if we don't get a successor / sequel to remnant.

[@caldadextra2063]

Just got PlayStation Extra. Still trying to get through D: Deathloop and some other titles I’ve been meaning to play for a while. Is this title worth it?

[@rpgfeatures793]

Prequel *

[@JoyTuub]

@@rpgfeatures793 🙄

[@ReubMann]

How does the aging mechanic impact the gameplay?

[@atrane365]

from what i remember reading, as you age, your ranged/spell skills become more prominent, and you don't move as fast, so melee combat becomes very hard to accomplish, tujrning you into a wizened battlemage.

[@WarriorCicada]

@@atrane365 does it have premerdeath?

[@Makareno94]

@@WarriorCicada no

[@marioxzeldagamer4511]

Played this not knowing its supposed to be a prequel. Super confused about the ending but apparently it makes more sense when you play the first game. Maybe I'll look into it

[@harrison1671]

Thank you for saving me money.

[@Alan-xt4gf]

It’s worth 30 quid and the game is really charm

[@zainulhassan2029]

be a pirate 😁

[@legendaryszoke]

Looks like a cool soulslike. I think Ill try it

[@lorentzcoffin4957]

Chronos looks distinctly fantasy whereas Remnant is rather lovecraftian, it’s an interesting shift.

[@Eunostos]

Chronos actually covers the transition. Twas quite the cliffhanger.

[@SubduedRadical]

To be fair, part of that is explained in the story - well, in Gunfire Games' characteristic method of not at all clearly explaining the story but having enough hints to sort of piece it together - but Chronos also has the Lovecraftian elements. Remnant has several different themes, but the fantasy elements are kind of overshadowed. For example, Remnant's "magic" is handled through weapon mods. Because these are tech, sometimes bio-tech, attachments strapped to your weapons, it's not often made fully clear that their nature is generally magical in nature, not technological. And when you're fighting the fantasy Pan in Remnant, you're doing so with guns. Which you also fight everything else with as well, including the Corvus natives, which are...well, ELVES! Sure, assimilated, bio-logical Borg-ified Elves, but they make it clear, especially when you find the last living, un-assimilated one in the Swamps' DLC, that that species are/were Elves. This kind of makes it easy to gloss over the fantasy in Remnant since it's well hidden behind steampunk and more Lovecraftian motifs. On the other hand, in Chronos, you have a talking tree, four elements of magic, and fight exclusively with melee weapons. Even though you venture to several of the same worlds, like the Pan and the Labyrinth, you do more fantastical things there, killing a Guardian on each (hence why the Guardian of the Labyrinth calls Chronos "The Destroyer"). While Remnant gives you melee weapons, and some even have some pretty fantasy themes like the Hero's Sword or like the flame sword you get from beating the alternate kill version of the dragon, since the gameplay mostly avoids them and you don't really make the connection as readily between weapon mods - that fill with gun use - to magic.

[@Luke.Skywodka]

Could you "farm" deaths to play as a mage early?

[@SubduedRadical]

Doesn't that work against you somewhat, though, since your strength and dexterity decrease with age, even while your magic and traits increase?

[@RougeEric]

You forgot Stadia, might be worth adding it to the description or pinning a comment.

[@gamayun6102]

Stadia sucks and no one cares about it.

[@pvt.prinny759]

this looks incredibly slow paced, remnant was really fun tho played it from start to finish coop with a friend

[@distantthunder12ck55]

You got that about right. I really enjoyed Remnant but am not enjoying this one.

[@davidpopoca9409]

Me: Mom can we get Demon's Souls? Mom: we have demon's souls at home Demon's Souls at home: Chronos Before the Ashes

[@elena_the_strong3821]

This game originally released 5 years ago. Remnant came after by the way.

[@jaxmk1]

Great review,thank you very much excellent job!!!!

[@jackmichaelcarr3555]

When I was 12 I had the age mechanic in my head, glad someone is trying it out. Who knows what this could lead to in a big AAA game

[@diosrightcalfmuscle4090]

I once had a similar experience. Id been trying to create a stealth horror game and eventually, i decided that itd be cool for the player to have a cone of vision where they can see enemies. If an enemy was behind them, they could only tell through sonar or some other means. Then a week later, i was watching a few youtube videos and discovered that the game "darkwood" existed and my idea was not as original as i thought.

[@jackmclean4120]

You guys played Sifu?

[@trd-]

@@jackmclean4120 hopefully they tried it, but the comments is from 2 years ago

[@joeyst-pierre6139]

Thank you, I'll be buying it when it goes on special

[@VirusOfCyrus]

You would have to be INSANE to want to buy the game after this review!

[@Preq_]

great review! i am happy yt suggested me ur channel

[@RaffaelloLorenzusSayde]

The game kind of reminds me of Deathtrap Dungeon PS1 game lol brings back nostalgic feelings 😅

[@mikes8386]

i loved deathtrap.

[@AstraVex]

Okay, so I just downloaded this for PS4. - Not a labyrinth, pretty straight forward, bit of backtracking but no real brainteasers or deadly traps. - Combat/Controls are basically Dark Souls for babies. - Everything is soooo frigging sloooow and the loading times, GAWD!!! I haven't seen this many loading screens since Sonic 06! Also, turns out in the Oculus VR version, the combat/movement is much much faster and had fix camera angles like the old Resident Evil games. so yeah, this new Non-VR version is a slow, lumbering but pretty slug of a game

[@Youaightbud]

yoooo if this is free i will play this 24/7 i just got remnants from the ashes for free in epic games and loved it.

[@itcheebeard]

I dont think you understand what "mob" means in gaming. It doesn't mean groups of enemies, it just stands for "mobile entity".

[@JackJohnson-bw4pu]

He meant mob as in "mobbed" as in "ganged up on" in his context it makes sense. I hear "mobbed" or "mobbing" frequently in games, and mob in that context is used by many gamers.

[@itcheebeard]

@@JackJohnson-bw4pu lol I've NEVER heard anyone who plays games more than an hour on clash of clans say that. Ganked or Zerged maybe. Mob means one thing to 99% of gamers

[@victordelmastro8264]

It's on Stadia too.

[@Spindlysneaker]

Clearly a baised reviewer, who can't be taken seriously. It makes his review in a whole complete worthless already. This is so obvious.

[@TheVampirePredator]

@@Spindlysneaker Because he doesn't mention your platform, that makes his review worthless? To everyone? That's like saying Grubhub is worthless to everyone if they deliver from every restaurant in your area except your favorite.

[@Spindlysneaker]

@@TheVampirePredator First of all learn how to read, because I didn't write anywhere that Stadia is my platform. You are making things up in your head again. Secondly my statement was just a simple fact. A good reviewer covers everything and always double checks his sources. Otherwise you're nothing more than an amateur.

[@TheVampirePredator]

@@Spindlysneaker Someone got ultra defensive. You didn’t have to *say* you were Stadia owner because you strongly inferred you were. Like it can be inferred you are a Ravens fan if you got pissed at someone saying, “The Steelers won the game this week.”. “Simple fact”, is just that, but you added passion and ad hominem statements that lend themselves to advocacy. Then you go overboard on me. Either you’re a diehard Stadia fan or you’re a troll that gets off on kneejrk insults. Which is it?

[@Zand3rParkour]

Is the flat dissatisfying ending a result of the fact that it is a prequel, and meant to only set up Remnant instead of actually conclude?

[@SapphireDragon357]

The original game came out 3 years before Remnant, so I'm guessing it's just a result of it being the studio's first game.

[@KC_Nwosu]

I tried to stay away from using the word prequel, because it's actually the first game so I doubt its rushed ending had much to do with Remnant which likely wasn't even an idea yet.

[@Zand3rParkour]

@@KC_Nwosu Ah, see I had no idea it existed until seeing this video so assumed it was more recently made.

[@U_F_N_M]

@@Zand3rParkour The ending was very tailored to being a VR game and to set up a sequel. Unfortunately, Remnant only ever references the events of Chronos in its visuals and in the opening voice over, which makes the ending of Chronos even less impactful.

[@Makareno94]

@@U_F_N_M and the fact that spoilers . . . . . . . . the main character of Chronos is final boss

[@jeffreyvisser8628]

What about age if you die too many times?

[@durpson]

If you get too old you become immortal

[@unleashthedog]

Quicker to mention the platforms it DOESN'T come out on :D

[@beatpeace879]

This reminds me of ashen

[@durzoghoul7442]

Heard theyre making another game so lets hope it's way better

[@TheCreepypro]

game seems nice but not something I need to rush out and play right now I'll get back to it later probably....

[@virgogaming6488]

As a game I prefer it over Remnant, death had more meaning in it as you aged a year everytime you die.

[@cavaliervillage]

Why does the game play so slow? I play Remnant: From the Ashes and the game is way faster than this. I find this slowdown strange, considering this game was released after Remnant. I would buy it, if its gameplay is as fast as Remnant, lol otherwise I will skip it. Remnant is great, I like the Souls ideas put in the game.

[@coreyfaith69]

They gave away copies to youtubers dang I was hoping to try it looks like a good game

[@leshrac369]

I...do not see how this is a prequal from Remnant from the Ashes? A generic fantasy setting...is a prequel to a vaguely sci fi horror setting?

[@durpson]

Its not a prequel, Remnant from the Ashes is the sequel

[@WarriorCicada]

You can see the same design in everything the character,the enemies,the color pallet and the save/ bonfire points the only thing thats different is the gameplay. Its more zelda+dark souls than borderlands+dark souls.

[@leshrac369]

So its like...a 1000 years before the 2nd game? Humans first encounter with the Labyrinth?

[@leshrac369]

Is this related to Remnant: From the Ashes? Chronos is technically a prequel to Remnant, where the events of Chronos take place a one month before the start of Remnant: From the Ashes story. Players familiar with Remnant: From the Ashes will recognize locations, characters and events referenced in Remnant! Where the fuck is this set that its only 1 month before the other game? Its wild.

[@durpson]

@@leshrac369 As I said Remant from the Ashes is a sequel to Chronos

[@whowantscoins]

Did you forget the PS5 is backwards compatible, or you just prefer the new Xbox? 🤔

[@willdower2947]

This game has one of the worst endings I've ever experienced. It's already a slow paced game to begin with, but they still make you run a pointlessly long boss run every time you die to the boss with 3 pointless enemy's to just slow you down more. Then you have a janky boss fight where using a heal can damage you, but not every time, just when the boss feels like it. Then, to top it off, you have the same setup for the boss as in Remnant. The lack of creativity really makes me disappointed in Remnant.

[@yemre8689]

Adding subs to the videos would help. Nevertheless nice review

[@johnwrath3612]

I really enjoyed Remnant. I hadn't heard about a prequel. It's a shame this was supposed to be VR. Seems like that seriously hamstrung the mechanics.

[@U_F_N_M]

Chronos was originally released for VR in 2016. It's not a prequel, Remnant is the sequel.

[@nathanburgett1599]

Was gonna say it looks like a remnant clone, that makes sense now why it looks that way.

[@unclesamxlr]

So the same issue that plagues Remnant's combat.

[@ih4177]

hmm seems to be growin well

[@DJTXD123]

Why couldn't they do remnant from the ashes 2, i love that game

[@whodat7763]

They likely are considering how successful it was. This was just a port from the VR version.

[@dvornikovalexei]

I have put 100+ hrs in Remnant but this doesn't look a good game unless played in VR

[@gorkie6998]

how to kill your dragon...

[@ZirJohn]

It looks like remnant but lame :( hopefully they make a successor to remnant that's really good

[@echoineternity8087]

Who spoils a final boss in a review. Shame on you.

[@jorgealves8319]

I know, right? Pretty lame

[@mixedmartialnutrition1746]

the combat looks boring...

[@kayrbayrvids]

Who the fuck spoils the entire end boss in a 3 minute review to a game that has a story of the sequel... Appreciate the decent review with descriptive scenarios but do not appreciate the end game spoilers no matter how big or small a game it is...

[@theescapist]

Again, it’s not a spoiler. The whole premise is getting to the dragon, the game tells you this in its opening moments.

[@BusinessMan1619]

Nice review but this game does not sound like a must have.

[@mkorenhof]

Love this game

[@Fudo1]

Love this

[@Teppuko]

It's like dark souls but with guns. Except without the guns

[@1dui1]

30 dollars? For No Guns?!?!?

[@TheVampirePredator]

Sounds even more flawed than Fable 1. Hard pass.

[@mrraven9790]

it is less a slow game

[@MasterTech187]

Bro why you spoil the final boss like that no warning no nothing

[@crusaderdino2739]

Doesn't look anywhere as good as remnant

[@pastagoose1506]

It looks like Ashen but better

[@rpgfeatures793]

Ashen is way better

[@GatsuKS]

You gotta be joking.

[@kdhlkjhdlk]

Oh it's VR only? weird. oh well

[@jasonkiller9942]

No, it was rereleased as a non vr game

[@mikekerr6137]

I want it to have guns 🙁

[@WestHamParker8]

Looks like ashen, but bad.

[@willing_spirit6830]

I turned this game off when I got to the 3rd elevator.

[@fairplayer916]

So they took the only Souls shooter on the market, and removed the shooter part that made it unique? And made it a super generic Souls wannabe?

[@nasgaroth1]

Co to za gówno ?

[@valenperry2654]

darksouls+control : chronos

[@melvinseron8007]

Thanks for spoiling the last boss...

[@themambawarrior2290]

Like saying "Romeo and Juliet dies" is a spoiler despite it being openly stated at the beginning of the play/game.

[@zombieVegas]

Красиво описали, но на деле игра ощущается очень вторичной :(

[@MistressMary...22-u9j]

this game sucks, it is nothing like the way better Remnant

[@MistressMary...22-u9j]

this game sucks compared to Remnant

[@Rawsawn]

remnant of the ashes was bad enough, this is looking to be even worse.