Chrysler 200 install battery, add ground wire, no start no crank fix

[@Suckmyring]

I know this video is pretty old I dont know if you still have the car or not but if you take off the engine cover (just pull up) and look at the back left of the vehicles motor you will see a chincy ass speaker wire like ground going from the engine mount to the chassis. This is your engine block ground your alternator and everything on that engine block is grounded through that wire and electricity needs to travel through this at whatever your alternator is pulling (160 amp at 100%) which is equivalent to a pickup truck alternator with a v8 in it. This car in specific it is very reccomended to replace all the charging wires with thicker gauge ofc, alot of people dont know this but thats the main reason these cars have electrical problems. I had to find this little ground wire myself but after further inspection the wire was frayed so much and got so hot that the metal connection the wire was crimped onto melted and snapped! It is actually a ground strap, more than anything i cant stress enough replace this wire with anything that has less resistance. I saw a couple comments saying that what you did in this video worked and im not disputing that but you look at the stock ground wires from the “battery” you wouldnt think too much off it yeah there small but it is enough to supply what the car needs, but all that electricity needs to circle back around through all your wires specifically your ground. Your chassis on this car acts as a wire and as it being a unibody car it has very many cheap spot welds that can definitley hinder the resistence of alot of ground spots. Im just saying if this little belt was replaced with something that was at least as thick as the stock battery ground you probably wouldn’t have too many more electrical problems because the electricity can flow consistently through the whole car without any voltage performance issues, these cars dont like it when the voltage is off just a smidge everything is electrical dependent hence there being such a big alternator.

[@Suckmyring]

Dont quote me on this either but there is another wire running off this wire going to the bottom of the car, could very well be the ground for the starter im just saying no crank no start sounds like it could be a starter after diagnosing electrical problems if this problem still arises for you or anyone that sees this comment check this ground strap seriously they tend to fray with heat because there small braided pieces of shits.

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Great info; thanks I’ve since traded in the 200. I loved the car while I had it.

[@rondellschuyler7074]

@@GetOutTheHouseGoFish i love my 2012 chrysler 200 sport with the 3.6 engine. Car is loaded. Now after 30 plus years driving chrysler and dodge cars and trucks I am considering buying a Toyota. Toyotas sadly are made better.

[@candyk81]

I had battery replaced with a new one. The terminal got really hot. Car started ran good. Put tire back on restarted car then nothing! Wont start. Help... any ideas? A terminal was replaced a few months ago. Could it be wired wrong or loose wires inside it?

[@Goodvibesmcfly513]

So would it be safe to replace with wire as thick as battery cable ?

[@mike-n-texaswoodturning9481]

My daughters 2012 200 has this problem, it will die for no reason & won't crank. Replaced battery & it started & ran for 2 weeks then it happened again, towed it to my house & it cranked when I got it off the dolly, very frustrating. I'm gonna try this fix in the next few days & hope it works. I appreciate the time you took to post this fix.

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Hope it fixes your problem j👍

[@mike-n-texaswoodturning9481]

Did this ground cable fix, seemed to work for a couple of days then back to same problem. I think it was just a Coincidence that it started, back to same problem.

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

I haven’t had the problem since I added the ground wire. Also check the cables connected to the battery and make sure they are right also and corrosion isn’t built up on the terminals. Good luck getting it resolved.

[@anastasiamunoz4824]

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED ! or what the issue was if you found it. My car is the same model as your daughters, and did the same thing. battery light flashing & slippery sensor came on, shop said it ran fine when they got it after few days of sitting. Worked for 2 weeks and did the same thing. Except mine didn’t die, just was acting like it wanted to and wouldn’t accelerate.

[@deshawnjackson5617]

@@anastasiamunoz4824 I’m literally going through these problems now! What did the problem end up being?

[@sleepdro8532]

Thansk you Solved my issue After replacing Fuel pump Alternator Starter Battery And $200 of diagnose test The issue was the ground wire, a $12 fix . Crazy

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Yes that car is very sensitive 👍 glad it helped

[@rasstarr01]

i had the same problem a few days ago on a 2013 non autostart 2.4 after changing a alternator, after 2 days of troubleshooting checking fuses, battery, relays, grounds, connections on the battery around the alt etc, i finally pulled off the starter and the car had a bad ign wire to the starter, the yellow small wire was corroded and not getting a good connection, i cleaned and fix the wire and the car is working fine as before 😀

[@noahtj10]

Hello, I’m having the hardest time finding the starter? Can you assist?

[@rasstarr01]

@@noahtj10 if i can remember it was under the intake manifold i think its been awhile since ive done it

[@noahtj10]

rasstarr01 no stress, it was the battery. Thank you for the response

[@gwilli1446]

Rather than add another ground wire to my 2011 convertible 200 with v6 engine, I simply took the ground cables off at their junction point up on the driver strut tower/firewall under the hood. The cable from the battery and the cable to the motor ground are joined here at a point where you can connect jumper cables. There was some corrosion but I cleaned both cable ends, the threaded stud they connect to, and the nuts that hold them together all with a wire brush and some contact cleaner. I did not like that the first nut to hold the engine ground cable in place had a flat on the one side but a taper/bevel on the other side where it would engage the cable end for the battery wire. I did not feel there was enough surface area there to get a good connection even with torqueing down the second "jumper" cable nut so I put the nut in my vice with the bevel side up and took a file to it to flatten in out and give some mating surface for the battery cable end and torque of the "jumper" nut that is lastly attached. Before reassembling everything I coated all mating parts with dielectric grease which transmits current and inhibits corrosion then assembled and torqued everything tight. I also did this same exercise with the positive connections near the same firewall location. This has totally solved my intermittent no start problems without having to add another ground. I had replaced the battery about a year prior and had carefully cleaned all the connections at that end including the application of dielectric grease and sufficient connection torque so I knew I had no problems there although in addition to what I just did up top to the connectors it should be duplicated at the battery if this has never been done. Prior to all of this, about 3 years ago my alternator gave out and the result that while on the freeway everything electrical went crazy as the battery was just about drained completely - dash lights flashing, engine revving, and then finally stalling out. The tow guy and dealer agreed that all this craziness was what happens to these Chryslers when the battery gets super low so if you have this issue then check your battery for remaining life (load test, specific gravity check, voltage check) and it is most likely the battery or if battery is new then most likely the alternator. But, as seen in the KZbin video and comments from others the most likely reason for this intermittent start is a poor ground and/or poor positive connection in the battery/ground cable circuit. I really believe that in addition to corrosion (which in my case did not appear to be that bad) the culprit for all these Chrysler no start issues most likely is that beveled nut combined with corrosion and poor torque at the jumper cable connector point. Even a plain double flat sided nut would be better than the beveled nut. Cleaning up and fixing this transfer connection joint that is put there so you can jump start when your battery is buried out of site is a first stage and easier fix than adding another ground cable though the latter is obviously very effective as it creates a direct ground without the connection point at the jump start connection location. Chrysler should replace the bevel style of nut used to secure the ground wires at the firewall with a flat on both sided nut! I am a mechanical engineer with over 38 years working for automotive companies and a life long do-it-yourselfer as far as auto repairs go so I do know a few things - particularly about mechanical issues and design.

[@robertferdinand6756]

Yes

[@954southernboy]

Im having this problem

[@jjcman2009]

Did he connect the cable to the negative or positive

[@bloodkapo2175]

@@jjcman2009 your car starting now?

[@anazampogna9475]

I agree with this comment. I have a 2013 Chrysler 200 3.6L with about 83k miles. It has had stalling issues which I suspect may still be due to the transmission fluid leak. However, I noticed that it wouldn’t start properly a few days ago (hesitation, slow cranking). So I changed the battery (which is a pain already because you have to remove the tire). Then, after driving it for a couple of days, the car shut off on me while I was driving. Luckily it started back up afterward and made it the short drive home. After that, I noticed that when I’d start it up, everything was pulsating - the engine, lights (flickering), and vents (so I did not drive it). We decided to replace the alternator, but even after we did, the multimeter still showed that the battery had less than 12V and fluctuated. I read something after Googling for hours to check the ground terminal. Here’s what I learned: First check to see if there is a grounding issue. The article said to use the multimeter to check the ohms (by using the multimeter on the ground terminal and metal part of engine and then the ground and part of the alternator). The Ohms wouldn’t stay at 0 so we concluded there was a grounding issue. After googling everything I could, I found some comment by a person saying to add another ground. Before doing that though, my husband cleaned the corrosion on the ground as stated in this comment. However, he noticed that the ground wasn’t really touching the way it should (he said whatever it was touching had paint on it so it must’ve been a manufacturing flaw, but he also knew there wasn’t enough of a connection). So, he added two or three copper washers to the grounding terminal. Afterwards, the multimeter finally showed a steady voltage over 12V. I drove it a short distance (to return the alternator core) without any problems. I do believe (and hope) this was the issue. After a new battery and alternator, it turns out the major issue may just have been the ground terminal. I’ll update this if it happens to stall or shut off again.

[@ceciliabrown4512]

Thanks! Your video helped us find and change the car battery 👍

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Cecilia Quinones Great 👍🙂

[@JohnWick-bs1dg]

Thank you for thisw video in the last two weeks my car has been having the same problem i jave to turn the key 2 to 3 times before it starts on. Im gona check the battery nd the calbes. Thought it would be the starter or the or key ignition.?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

juan trevino your welcome. Good luck on getting it fixed. Mines been fine since i added the extra ground wire.

[@MahoganyyMami]

I think I’m having the same issues I replaced my battery and alternator 6 months ago when the Christmas break was over I got in my car to go to work and it would not start everything comes on lights up but when I try to start it nothing the light don’t go dim so I know it’s not my batter but here recently I tried to start it again now it’s giving me the error msg no fuse we’ve checked my fuses none seem to be blown I’m completely lost don’t know what could be wrong anymore a lot of people are saying I need a starter but would the fuse have something to do with the starter ?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

The fuse would not have anything to do with the starter. If you can get an ODB reader that might help with any error codes. Double check the connection cables on the battery to make sure they are tight and secure. Also check for any corrosion around the wires. This cars electrical seems very finicky. Once I added an extra ground wire I haven’t had an issue with the car not starting. Good luck to you. I know how frustrating it can be.

[@MahoganyyMami]

Thanks so much I was able to get some codes from it P0513 & P0562

[@MahoganyyMami]

GetOutTheHouseGoFish update donuts fixed I had a lot of corrosion on my battery cables and they weren’t tight enough thanks so much!

[@Gate2He11]

Why did you run the extra ground to the transmission? Why not the frame of the vehicle?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

You can; that’s where I chose to mount mine and it fixed the problem 👍

[@jjcman2009]

Did you add the cable to the negative or positive

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Ground (Negative)

[@saulmarquez2468]

what kind of problems did your car have? i have a 2013 200 as well. my car had a battery light on, was making my way back home (120 miles) and my car started revving high on the highway out of nowhere. pulled over and tried to restart the car but no crank. got a jump from a friend and managed to get closer to home until my car started to act up again and was going 30mph on an interstate. my lights started to dim inside the car as well as headlights and taillights, and then the car completely died on the street. my dad just replaced the battery but no fix. any recommendations?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

I had that no start no crank issue but after adding the additional ground wire I didn’t experience the problem again. I had an ac actuator start clicking and I replaced that too. The passenger side door panel started to peel up and I had to re-glue that and the last thing was I started to have AC problems. I refilled the ac and traded the car in.

[@MrPsychoMiko1]

How is the car now? Did this fix it? My 2011 200 died 3 times on me after changing the battery. The dealer keeps sending back to me with no trouble found.

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

I haven’t had the problem again. Adding the ground wire fixed mine and I never had the problem again.

[@25stakes25]

Never again like weeks months years ? How long

[@MrPsychoMiko1]

@@25stakes25 i finally fixed my car by selling it.

[@aag12gonzalez24]

We're you getting any power AT ALL before the extra ground?

[@ontherisewithcandyceevette3037]

Ok if I wanted this done where would I be able to get the parts needed...

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

I just picked mine up from a local auto parts store. I hope you are able to get it resolved.

[@ontherisewithcandyceevette3037]

@@GetOutTheHouseGoFish ok thanks I'm thinking it was just the cold and it hasn't had a new battery in a while.... I've had this car almost four years without any problems... A brake job here and oil changes year round and nothing more... So this weather I'm hoping is probably the culprit.

[@ontherisewithcandyceevette3037]

I subbed. Trying to learn about this ground wire business.

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Thanks for subscribing. I post any problems I have with the car but this is mainly my fishing channel now so enjoy :-)

[@terrancethurman3912]

thank u for this video very helpful

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Terrance Thurman You welcome. Glad its helping.

[@eliza9348]

Do recommend changing the ground wire while changing the battery? Or is that just something your vehicle needed?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

I added an additional ground wire and it stopped the issue I had. Doesn’t hurt to add another 👍

[@allenabarrett1050]

Need help with my Chrysler 200 , don’t know if it was my battery or alternator, had it for a month then one day it shut off , it cracks but don’t start thought it was the battery so I put a new battery in well it started fully turned it off then it never came on again went , took the alternator off and got it tested and it came back fine so any suggestions?? 🤔🤔

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

I would look at the wires; corrosion etc. Definitely sounds like an electrical issue. Sorry I traded mine in years ago. Good luck.

[@joejoeaz47]

If it needs this to workthen how did it ever start in the first place? What went wrong that now it needs an extra wire to work?

[@katiedingman4326]

Trying to figure out if this will work for my car. Mine is the v6 too, was driving it and it shifted to first gear and lost all power

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Mine never shifted down and lost power? I can tell you after I added the extra ground wire that I never had a problem with it starting again. Good luck. I hope you get it resolved soon 👍

[@davidmccright3764]

I'm about to attempt this. I have a 40 inch ground wire. How hard is it loosen the bolt you connected it to?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

You don’t have to use the same bolt but as long as it’s somewhere on the block you should be good. Hope you got it connected.

[@davidmccright3764]

I connected it to a piece of the frame. It started, but would it have been optimal to connect it to the block?

[@davidmccright3764]

@@GetOutTheHouseGoFish I connected it to that bar that runs underneath. I couldn't seem to find a good way to loosen the bolt you showed in the video

[@davidmccright3764]

I can't seem to disconnect the nut that holds the ground wire to the connector. It's on very tight. I've tried Pb blaster and it still won't loosen. This is where I'd be connecting the other ground wire, correct?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

You can try heating it up, that might help.

[@Chemito421]

Big help👍 thanks 🙏

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

anselmo fuentes Glad it helped 👍

[@Airmcnai1r]

How is your Chrysler? Is it still functioning

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Running great. No issues at all 👍

[@Airmcnai1r]

GetOutTheHouseGoFish Okay thanks, also did your chrysler ever stall? I have the same car and mine stalls. If so, did the ground wire help with that too?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Dre M my car never stalled but since I did the extra ground wire I haven’t had any problem with it not starting. Only other issue I had was with the AC actuator making a clicking sound but I made a video for that fix too 👍

[@michaelanderson5108]

Piss poor engineering but we get a lot of that in these modern times

[@blairlarch5590]

Thank you for this..

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Blair Larch your very welcome 👍

[@leefrobinson8847]

What battery to get ?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

What battery? Please be more specific I made this video a while ago. If it’s for the 200 I suggest one from Walmart. They have a great return /warranty . I’ve purchased vehicles in the past and the battery had gone bad I took it there and luckily some had purchased from Walmart; all they did was scan the barcode on the battery and if it was in their system and under warranty they would always say here you go; Free new battery. So I always get mine from there

[@leefrobinson8847]

So get anyone , no specific one ?

[@leefrobinson8847]

GetOutTheHouseGoFish I’m say what battery to get cause Ik there different sizes and numbers

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Leef Robinson there is a little machine at Walmart by the batteries and you put in the year and make of your vehicle and it will tell you what battery the car should have base on cranking amps. If you can’t find the little machine or if they don’t have a book you can ask the person at the desk.

[@leefrobinson8847]

GetOutTheHouseGoFish ok thanks

[@samanthastump5350]

Did this actually fix the issue or does it just act up less?

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Samantha Stump So far so good. Check the battery cables as far as loose connections and corrosion. Also have your battery checked if you haven't replaced then lastly add the additional ground wire.

[@Bonbonbon739]

Just to let everybody know this car will have every problem in the book (stalling randomly engine light) everything just from the ground jumper posts. That little copper circle that gets bolted to the jumper post. That has been the problem on my car for over five months because the little copper ring that is bolted to the jumper post kept getting thinner and thinner and finally a piece broke off. It’s very finicky.

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Loved the car when I first got it but after multiple problems I finally traded it in for something else but I did enjoy the vehicle when it was trouble free 😊

[@Bonbonbon739]

@@GetOutTheHouseGoFish right lol it does have problems all the time but I still have low mileage in the car was given to me, so I can’t complain. But very finicky car. I love that it’s a convertible and it drives very smooth. That’s about it. Lol and it’s comfortable.

[@dmayse1000]

i just had a no crank no start that got worse on cold days in my 200... it was the TIPM, u can get a used TIPM for pretty cheap and replace it yourself... the TIPM or (totally integrated power module) is literally the fuse box under the hood, they designed it like shit and in stead of replacing a $2 relay when one goes out chrysler decided that integrating them into a module on the bottom of the fuse box was a better idea 🤦‍♂️

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Good to know. Thanks

[@log1kthegreat47]

Is it the same for the v4 model

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

amen ra hotept I am not sure because I don’t have the 4 Cylinder model.

[@bradyoung8197]

There is no v4 its an inline 4 2.4l

[@kristenmoran2000]

thanks for the video very helpful. Gotta love the easy replacement.. LOL,, NOT!!!

[@becky1925g]

hello, we are having this same problem. Did u ever find the problem? Our car was running & starting fine until we replaced the brake pads. Then no start. ours is a 2013 also.

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

becky1925g - I placed the additional ground wire on and it was fine for a few weeks then acted up a few times again but has been ok again. it has something to do with those battery cables and location of the battery. Another person told me they adjusted the positive terminal post and it fixed theirs for the time. I would say look at the battery terminals closely.

[@becky1925g]

thank you for your reply. A new battery seems to have fixed our problem. I sure hope it stays fixed.

[@DLHappens]

We have a 2011. We were having dying battery problems. Found that the clip switch for the glovebox lost its spring and was allowing the glovebox light to stay on and it was the culprit. I tried disconnecting it but it was direct wire. Instead of replacing the switch, or rigging it to only have to do it again later, I pulled it out and cut the wires.

[@bradyoung8197]

@@DLHappens hey that's weight reduction n will give u better track times 😁

[@dozervin1]

Damn. You make me soooooo sleepy.

[@GetOutTheHouseGoFish]

Well if you ever have problems getting to sleep definitely save the video sit back listen 👂 and relax 😴

[@davidmccright3764]

Update: Car is dead again, I guess I do need to connect the wire to the engine block

[@jjcman2009]

Did you connect the wire to the negative or positive

[@michaelrobichaud2058]

I have chrysler 200 2013 I start it with the remote it starts n shuts off after 20 seconds anyone knows why n can help me

[@chillinwtheenemy]

Entirely too complicated

[@pansaint2662]

What does it mean if the battary wires spark really bad like something is touching somewhere else ? The battary wires are installed correctly on the battary I can’t seem to find where they are touching