Chrysler Pacifica vs. Hyundai Palisade: Our WORST Review Ever, Raw & Unedited!

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( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! Welcome to a "warts and all" review of the 2023 Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy and Chrysler Pacifica Limited AWD. Why warts and all? Well, while the intent was to compare these two vehicles and give you a better idea of which is the better family hauler, things didn't exactly go to plan...but we try our best to keep it real with you guys, so here's our (admittedly flawed) video looking at these two three-row vehicles.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:26 A word from our sponsor
0:41 Comparing the Hyundai Palisade and Chrysler Pacifica
1:51 Looking at the Chrysler Pacifica
20:15 What about the Hyundai Palisade?
32:32 Closing thoughts

[@TFLcar]

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[@TFLcar]

Side note: Hey, you guys get more of a "behind the scenes - we're definitely not perfect!" look at the reviewing process. Still, hopefully you guys get some useful information on the new Hyundai Palisade versus the Pacifica minivan. Thanks for watching, as always!

[@JohnC-hj3dr]

Hey all you guys @tfl you know what y'all should do since I know there's plenty of footage of screwing up the lines and getting things wrong or bloopers as we shall say ! Y'all should do a tfl bloopers segment just for fun

[@Jasruler]

This was such a fun change of pace from the usual slick edited KZbin review vid. “There’s an S on it..?” 😜

[@patrickirish8110]

Honestly, this was my favorite "Buddy Review" yet. There's something honest about not editing out gaffes, and the concept of these types of reviews is less formal, so it works. Great (and entertaining) vid, lads!

[@coolmaster121]

I agree. It was awesome watching this review. It is not the worst that is for sure.

[@poppyneese1811]

As a man that probably had 17 many vans as a retired 35 1/2 year sales rep all were Astro Vans Dodge Caravans and my very last one was a Chrysler Pacifica, I can tell you a good set of snow tires on the front and you can go 90% of the place a AWD mini van can go. I say constantly saw 30 mpg on a trip and about 22.5 mpg in town. My last fall working due to health condition I couldn’t fly and had to drive from Southern West Virginia to Salt Lake City Utah a 2000 mile trip and the Pacifica handled it with ease. When I retired we missed our van so much we bought one and love it, a great family hauler, there just hard to beat!!! Remember those 0-60 times were with 3 pretty good sized men in there. Not a single lil feller in the bunch!

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

Chrysler mini vans and just folded the seats into the floor one can slept in side

[@rzu7120]

I loved this review! Great, natural style. BTW, the Chrysler has massaging seats. You just have to ask your kids to kick the seat back as you drive.

[@Somebody294]

lol thank you for that gave me a good chuckle.. brings back some memories haha

[@w-josh]

Lol every minivan has massaging seats if you have kids, they're Made for it

[@gbaughma]

I absolutely love my 2017 Pacifica. I just wish it was AWD and as loaded as that one. The ride is quiet and smooth, and the cargo space is amazing! If I fold down the seats, I can lay 4x8 sheets of plywood flat in the back! The nicest vehicle I've ever owned, for sure.

[@genesiscollins6213]

Minivans are cool! I had a 2013 Grand Caravan RT. A dealership tech friend was able to modify and install the Challenger tune for the Pentastar V6. I replaced the stock ecopia tires with stickier tires and upgraded the shocks. In the end I had a 300 horsepower, canyon carving van. It was SO fun embarrassing old rich guys in their Porsches and Ferraris going through the Supleveda pass in LA!

[@XDMIIIIIIIII]

I agree that it’s quick but you’re delusional about humiliating Ferraris & Porsches 😂

[@Greybone62]

@@XDMIIIIIIIII It could be that those vehicles from Ferrari & Porsche were of vintage age..

[@MrKillerRC]

We bought a 2021 Pacifica Pinnacle plug-in hybrid for $43k before the chip shortage hit hard in April 2021. I’m currently getting 62 mpg. With 33 miles of EV range. Over 500 miles with a full tank of gas. The tri-pane pano sunroof is awesome. I go months without gassing it up. The interior of the Pinnacle is so nice. Quilted leather seats. Suede headliner. We love it.

[@csmlouis]

Is that with the fed tax rebate factored in? I was 4 months behind you and it was $51k all included for a fathom blue.

[@MrKillerRC]

@@csmlouis No. The $43k is not factoring the tax cut. So actually it was around $36k. The MSRP was $52k and then there was $9k in dealer and factory incentives. In May 2021 they ended the incentives.

[@sharathpaka4198]

Hi, how is it so far? I heard so many terrible news about Chrysler Pacifica PHEV and it's reliability. Did you face any issues?

[@MrKillerRC]

@@sharathpaka4198 38k miles. No issues. Nothing besides a few oil changes and software updates.

[@pastorgadget]

I got the Palisade in June. I wanted to look at the Pacifica but my wife wanted the SUV clearance for winter driving. We really love our Palisade.

[@Assgasyoda]

Slap a lift kit on a Pacifica and you’re all set

[@kyledexter485]

You guys need to bring back the TFL slip test. I really enjoyed those videos.

[@TFLcar]

FYI: We just got a fresh shipment of new rollers so please stay tuned. We’re back in the slip test biz!

[@kacyharper8142]

Tommys slip tests are how we ended up choosing our CR-V and our Pilot

[@igoldra_9162]

Good video guys. I appreciate the unedited take on this, it just show how much work it is to do one of your simpler reviews. Keep you the good work.

[@DaddyDan77]

What I liked about this unedited comparison was that it felt like two buddies who had each just bought new cars and showed up at Roman's house to show them off. FYI minivans are great and I wish my wife wasn't one of those people who had a prejudice against them. I will also say that a LOADED minivan makes little sense to me. I've got 3 kids and seen the mess they make. Gimme the cheapest one I can get with the features I find essential and give me wall to wall WeatherTech floor mats and cargo area protectors.

[@krzysztofcwik5347]

Sliding doors and childseat friendly tilt are two the most important things in family vehicle. Those and plenty of isofix sets and airbags - simple way to make briliant family car. So easy but still it is so difficult to do recently. Minivans are the best - it is as simple as that.

[@TheRenocyclist]

"Raw & Unedited" Nathan is the best. Love it. We need more of this format. Informative yet humble.

[@ldstirling]

I own a 2018 Pacifica Touring L. Mine is gas powered and does not have AWD. I regularly get 23 MPG city and 28 MPG highway in my van. I think it provides phenomenal mileage and capability and comfort for what it is. I installed a trailer hitch and tow a 10 foot utility trailer with my Pacifica. I have also personally carried 4x8 sheets of drywall and 10 foot lumber in my Pacifica.

[@SuzukiKid400]

Me too. Also have a 2018 limited gas. Phenomenal vehicle. Would buy another in a heartbeat. I put custom 20’s on mine and sport performance tires and it now handles like it’s on rails. Just found a website called vankulture which sells custom parts like suspension kits, exhausts, cold air intakes and body kits. It’s an amazing vehicle.

[@gkcars6032]

At what milage is the Pacifica yet?

[@ldstirling]

@@gkcars6032 My Pacifica has 38,000 miles on it.

[@Sparkystacoma]

I have the pacifica hybrid and if I lost it for some reason I would go purchase another one with out a second thought!

[@jamespenner1412]

bought a awd pacifica 2 years ago the thing has 50k on it and has worked great!! our van does great on fuel, beat my friends honda crv on a road trip with more kids in ours. and i have the heavier foot too.

[@MarioDallaRiva]

Guys, this is great! Long time fan. Back when Andre no parlez anglaise in fact. Nice to see the three OGs raw and unedited. More of this, please!

[@brianlee9233]

Loved the creativity and style that you guys put into your videos. You really do your best to pull out the newest content.

[@ericbryant796]

I just had a rental Pacifica and put 1000 miles on it. Really a nice vehicle...easy to drive, plenty of go to get around lane blockers, storage and flexibility with the disappearing seats is awesome. Plus it was getting 29 mpg at 80mph. What's not to like? Other than its a minivan. 😃

[@TheRealCatof]

I can think of something. It's a Chrysler

[@XDMIIIIIIIII]

@@TheRealCatof I think Chrysler gets way more hate than it deserves. Most people who talk shit have never owned one and they just regurgitate what they read.

[@TheRealCatof]

@@XDMIIIIIIIII Chryslers are consistently some of the cheapest made and least reliable vehicles on the road. It's not a matter of owning them.

[@jamespenner1412]

we have one and its been great.

[@SuzukiKid400]

I have a Pacifica Limited and it’s been one of the best vehicles I’ve ever purchased, including pickups and muscle cars and even a corvette. It does nothing wrong! Hauls, efficient, handles great and has good power, and it even looks great. I put custom 20” wheels on mine and sport performance rubber and it handles like a dream. It’s been perfectly reliable as well.

[@travisstone3489]

I really enjoy the unedited videos. You guys are so great to watch just being yourselves.

[@PaddyBoy644]

Needs a Chrysler Pacifica Hell Cat edition 😂

[@IM-bp6uc]

Visually the difference is not that big, but in terms of internal versatility the Van is superior, in the Suv it is the type of terrain traveled, since it is more prepared for this!

[@ericcarlson3461]

Great test. Having had Both the Pacifica Limited S and a Toyota Sienna as my kids were growing, I will say I miss the Pacifica more than the Toyota. It towed our pop up camper and a Uhaul much better. As far as maintenance was concerned, we had issues with the power doors on both. Toyota cost 1300 to fix, the Pacifica cost around 700 to replace the door motors. The 20” Falken tires on the Pacifica are not quiet tires either but still much less road noise than the Sienna. This is a segment that the manufacturers missed opportunities with. They need more robust towing capacities to make it an ultimate vacation vehicle. If towing was around 5500 pounds, I wouldn’t have switched to an SUV.

[@citizentex5720]

Great review. I enjoy the gaffes and raw format because I know how professional y’all are. Having let TFL into my consciousness and watching for some time, the buddy reviews are a fun respite. To my generation (old) these cement colored cars look like they got primed but skipped the paint booth.

[@johncarson9946]

I've owned a Pacifica, and currently own a Palisade Calligraphy, so found this interesting. Where the Pacifica fails is the driver's legroom. Not enough for somebody over 6". Because the second row is fixed and can't slide back and forth like the Palisade's. Also, it's easier to use the heated seat buttons etc in the Palisade. But the transmission sucks. In Comfort or Smart mode, the car has to think about what gear it wants to be in and then you have to plant your right foot. Or put it in Sport mode, but it gets jerky when you just want to tool around town. It's easy to see Hyundai put all of their money into the interior of the car. But I would get another Pacifica as I miss the Stow 'N' Go seats, and the lower entry for the dogs. The Hyundai def isn;t worth the $53K I paid for it.

[@maximilianoluera6679]

i have to say i’ve always been a hater on chrysler products, but i recently had a pacifica rental and was thoroughly impressed. the interior wasn’t filled with cheap pleather and horrible plastics like all other chrysler products i’ve had experience with, it had good technology and a TON of features, the engine and transmission combo was nice, and it had acres of space. my 6’ 4” cousin sat in the third row almost the whole time we were in it. i’m not having kids so i’m not gonna buy a minivan but if i had too i’d choose a pacifica honestly

[@SuzukiKid400]

I always said I was going to buy a suburban when I had kids. Low and behold subirbans cost a fortune, they are inefficient, and handle like garbage because they have a high centre of gravity and weigh a lot. We ended up buying a Pacifica and it’s been one of the best vehicles I’ve ever purchased. I’m very impressed and recommend it to everyone. Oh and the best part? Sliding doors!!!!!

[@csmlouis]

Speaking of 3rd row, fun fact; the Pacifica has the largest 3rd row window opening out there and almost a square-rectangle shape. The other 3rd row suv/vans have those triangle swoopy design that can be claustrophobic to some.

[@dalerex5998]

On the arm rest in the Pacifica, you have to push the button on the inside to get it to reset where it locks. Doubt this one was broken 😂

[@billygtrr34]

I would never buy that minivan BUT, had to rent something for work, took my 3 dogs with their own kennels plus luggage and it was so good. long trip so I folded the kennels and my dogs could walk around look over the windows take a nap and walk around again. definitely would rent again for long trips

[@Dickie515]

Yes, the ride in the Chrysler van is great when new, but the suspension eventually wears out in 5 years and goes down hill from there, and is very expensive to restore.

[@anthonyr1930]

That’s why you do a 4 year lease!

[@lcarliner]

What I wish Chrysler would do is to come out with a non-plugin hybrid version, with an all-wheel drive feature. The little bit of EV-only mileage feature is simply not worth giving up stow and go that is sacrificed for the extra weight of battery needed for that itsy bitsy EV only mileage. Unfortunately, the non-plugin version would not qualify for the tax credit. However, giving up the extra weight that the plugin version supporting the extra battery sacrifices overall MPG.

[@jrcook927]

I wanted to buy a Pacifica recently, but dealers are marking them up $10k over sticker price.... for new AND used. It's insane.

[@TheRealCatof]

Lucky you, avoid Chryslers at all costs if you know what's good for you, they are unreliable and cheap.

[@GodsloveMuzik]

@@TheRealCatof Says you. I have a 2006 Chrysler 300 2.7L with nearly 134k miles on it. Just changed the spark plugs, air filter and oil. Never failed me. Ironically, I had a 2008 sienna and boy was it a nightmare. Always shuts off on me.

[@m3rdpwr]

@@GodsloveMuzik I loved my 300M, I got rid of it to buy a truck. I should have kept it and then bought the truck for what I needed.

[@plmn93]

@@TheRealCatof I've put on 200K on two Chrysler vans with no serious issues.

[@csmlouis]

Not just Pacifica, the new Sienna too! None of the Kia dealerships has their Carnival instock and that leaves Odyssey...well, if you already have an older Odyssey, basically the same.

[@feedrate1]

Nathan you made this video great . Loved it. I like the professionalism and the Bloopers. 👍👍👍

[@Eric-R]

Those prices are just crazy. I don't think I'll buy new ever again. Great review format, BTW. Loved it!

[@MrFamousPolo]

Should have match up the Kia carnival instead of the palisade

[@lp6wo]

After dropping all that money on a new family hauler one consideration will be “which one has doors my kids will slam into other cars and the garage and which one doesn’t”

[@gernotritzau5948]

I drove the cloth seat 2019 Pacifica for 2 years, and the stigma of a van is still as alive today, as it has ever been... I hate it as much as I love it! I am getting into a 2017 Ford Expedition now for the next 2 years, and just from driving it, I can feel human again...

[@reubenbrumby4553]

What tool actually uses the installed navigation instead of android auto/apple carplay Google maps?

[@stonepa]

Love it. A lot of details to keep straight.

[@dereckkorman2706]

Great video. Need more of these types of videos. Excellent gentleman.

[@mohammadbinbishr5167]

Cool review 😎 Keep up the great work

[@dimasshev9827]

I like when you guys make jokes and laughing

[@marcusturner5291]

Nice review keep up the good work

[@jamesaandf]

You buy the Pacifica. The utility makes up for what the Palisade may merit. You drive the Pacifica until it’s worn out taking advantage of its comfort and utility. It’s not a fashion statement. The Palisade will be dated in a few years and still little utility. Lease the Palisade. If the snow is too deep for the Pacifica, you probably shouldn’t be driving anyway. Roman is right on this one.

[@franzvanjulio5523]

A big part of me wanted to watch this review based on the high expectations set by the title alone.

[@zogadwoe]

This so funny and so refreshing to watch the honest gaffes. 🤣 good video

[@kevinc31]

This was hilarious. Keep up the great work guys.

[@joemcdonough7509]

Look at those horrid swirl marks on the brand new Hyundai. Reminder to always tell the dealer DON'T touch my car after it comes off the truck. The dealer prep ruins that paint. Love raw and unedited reviews from TFL. Keep it up!!!

[@TheRealCatof]

Where are you seeing swirl marks? Also just use some scratch doctor on it and the marks will be all gone.

[@joemcdonough7509]

@@TheRealCatof 4:18, passenger rear door. You can really see it with the suns reflection.

[@Hilmi12]

For a mature established channel with experienced presenters its refreshing to see the mistakes and screw ups presenters make

[@Dieseltorq]

I loved this!! Are their mics a little to loud?

[@bigmacmach1185]

I like the no editing, it's more real and authentic. Keep those versions up!

[@Short_Bus]

And funnier

[@NWI_Steel]

Agreed!

[@TheTommyOhh]

For the arm rest, there is a button on the seat side to set the height in multiple positions. Also the fact that you can fit a 4x8 sheet of whatever, means I have had one in the fleet for decades.

[@PintoBnz]

I loved this! best buddy review in a long time!

[@bigeyejim]

I love this review! Keep it rolling!!

[@richardellis69]

My favorite TFL vid ever!!!

[@JohnC-hj3dr]

I say if it's a daily driver and taking the kids all over the place the Pacifica has my vote! But they should really do a tfl bloopers segment!

[@scubatrucker6806]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Im watching the Three Stooges doing a automotive review

[@tonyInPA]

Rented a Telluride (so the Kia version, and last gen…but same basic mechanicals)….philly to Wisconsin, just under 27 mpg going, just over 27 on the return. For a chunky, awd explorer sized beast that was super comfortable and ate up the miles. And…was still In great shape….turned 50k miles just before returning it. That’s a LOT In dog years!

[@smc1377]

Nathan is the kid who didn't prepare for the group presentation.

[@NWI_Steel]

Lol!

[@JuanAvila-bl3ml]

Good video.. 👍 but when it comes to move 3 babies in and out of a vehicle, the Pacifica does best. Also the second row seats go into the flor making the child loading process a lot easier.

[@emilionani9958]

my father is looking for a new car,he is 71 and I love the pacifica,he's knees are not in great shape,love the pacifica

[@IM-bp6uc]

Of course, the difference in format affects other factors such as internal versatility but both are utilitarian and basically what differs is that the SUV has a slimmer appearance and that's where the Sport comes from in the designation!

[@humboldthammer]

Hey! RAW is refreshing. I still like your edited videos, too.

[@Julian-do7bv]

The Pacifica Pinnacle is amazingly nice but they are both really good options either would make a great vehicles the minivan can definitely carry more inside

[@Dawn191]

Hi guys, what is the ground clearance? That is the only thing I don't like, it is too low to the ground and there is no spare tire with the Pacifica.

[@ainomc]

That's awesome review :)

[@paulbrown7854]

It be interesting to see truck back seats in crew cabs fold into the floor make for flat load floor

[@Jasruler]

This is a really refreshing style of car review. More plz.

[@01gtbdaily30]

I’d never own a minivan even though my wife and I have 3 children. She drives a Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk and I drive an Infiniti Q50s Tuned on Ecutek with just over 400 AWHP. Our children are always fighting each other and we looked into a Hyundai Palisade but we couldn’t justify paying over $50k (Canadian) for a Korean recall machine. Interesting Fact : the exact Hyundai Palisade we test drove had the trailer hitch wiring catch on fire after it’s new owner purchased it and was one of the original vehicles to help determine a recall was needed.

[@douglasvieira1990dv]

When dealing with navigation volume. it’s best to turn it up while the nav is talking.

[@stockey]

The Kia Carnival would be a better fit.

[@Bigbillyrayfan]

Once you go minivan, it’s hard to go back.

[@MileHighScharfenberg]

I loved this review … Nathan is the best 😂

[@FadeToBlackLLC]

I really lke my Pacifica over an SUV. I had both so I can talk on each and I can haul more in the van and still get better gas mileage. The only thing the SUV has is towing capacity which I haven't missed.

[@dmitriyk.7461]

Three of you back together reminds me of old days.

[@ndguam]

Unedited, this was one of the best reviews I’ve seen.

[@scubatrucker6806]

I love my Blue 2019 Dodge Grand caravan GT 💙💙💙

[@chanmaung]

You need to turn down the db levels on the Rodes wireless mics. Their voices are clipping.

[@jesseriley7681]

🎉😢😮😅enjoyed the video and glad to see Nate and drey 😅back on film 🎞 together again it’s entertaining to hear 👂🏿 them at each other

[@Gemmellot]

I would love to have a Mr. T NAV voice!

[@gbaughma]

You missed your turn, fool! :D

[@iUsefull]

Hands down, Roman is the best camera guy at TFL. Look at all the feature highlighting he was doing and how in sync he was with the host, zooming in on what needed focus. 💯

[@cavemankiwi]

No Minivian has 3 across in the 2nd row and AWD, with the exception of the bottom trim Toyota. I want all the creature comforts, so I am forced to look at SUVs. Currently have a 2018 Honda Odyssey Elite. I love it, but wish it had AWD for the snow.

[@peaceandrelaxationwithgodscrea]

With my fwd pacifica i get up to 30 mpg hwy.

[@wiscokid9890]

Same

[@jamespenner1412]

my awd pacifica we get up to that on the highway too.

[@stanfordbanks3399]

When your having a bad day 🙃 it's hard to make it back... we have all had those type of days... All 👍The Banks Family 👪

[@jasonpaiva4793]

Great review.☺️ Nathan you can do another buddy review Toyota Sienna versus Chrysler Pacifica The only awd options available 4 minivans

[@theodavis9778]

Man, you guys are having way too much fun.

[@smithjones1906]

You should poll the audience to see if anyone cares about the hulu test. I get that not every test needs to be rigidly scientific, but that test is on the other extreme. Someone is touching it, it's not always on the same angle with various dashboards, the road conditions vary, etc. It seems meaningless or even misleading. I vote in favor of discontinuing that particular test.

[@paladin11C40]

2 weekends ago we used an Uber to go to and from a concert in Florida. On the way back to the hotel we were in a Nissan Armada. One of the people had a splint on her foot, it was hard for her to get into the vehicle because she is short and the vehicle has a high step in. If I ever decide to drive for Uber/Lyft, I will buy a hybrid Pacifica, I think its a great vehicle for that purpose.

[@williamdrijver4141]

As minivans are far less popular you might get a very good deal when buying or leasing one?

[@dhageorge]

This video has an old school tfl feel to it. That would be a good thing.

[@bigheadrec]

The only thing that I would change in this type of review is to give the cameraman (Roman) the wireless microphone as well.

[@nvn2005]

What’s the color name for the Pacifica ?

[@gs98999]

Putting these vehicles nose to nose really makes it clear there very little difference styling wise and ground clearance wise.

[@danichicago9140]

We have 18 Pacifica and 18 Highlander. The Pacifica can't be beat because of the stow and go and much more room. The Highlander has had 0 problems to the Pacificas multiple though. Obviously the Sienna with stow and go and the 3.5 would be the play. Too bad Toyota is going the opposite way

[@mrsteve4313]

That hyundai grill is fugly!!!

[@jamn2boost]

The chaos in this video 😂 but man I would love to be the 4th passenger in these videos

[@NWI_Steel]

Nathan, did you get your Santa Cruz yet?

[@Suction_]

The minivan is the obvious answer. I did 1800 miles in a pacific awd and my total MPG was 25.5. And this is the hilly north east. Did the same trip in a grand Cherokee and only got 22. FAR more room and much more comfortable in the Pacifica.

[@Novice2Expert]

For some strange reason I prefer the raw and unedited version.

[@patricksquires77]

Allot of comments on the ad. Ads are a no go.