Could Movie Superman Defeat Movie Thor? - DCEU vs MCU

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Could Movie Superman Defeat Movie Thor? - DCEU vs MCU. By far one of the most discussed VS battles in history is Thor, the Asgardian prince, VS the Man of Steel himself, Superman. Although it's a very complicated topic when the comic book iterations are involved, the movie versions are certainly easier to scale due to there being far less source material to go off of. So, who is stronger, who is faster, and who is the better fighter? I decided to go over feats, scaling, statements, and the like to determine which one of these gods amongsts mortals would come out on top in this legendary bout!
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@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
Who do you think wins this matchup? The man of tomorrow, or the god of thunder?
@marvelmaniacs1
@marvelmaniacs1 5 ай бұрын
I honestly have Thor. He has way better feats
@thedishonoredamerican129
@thedishonoredamerican129 5 ай бұрын
I'm giving this to Thor. He has far more experience and greater durability.
@newbornviking9721
@newbornviking9721 5 ай бұрын
Guts from Berserk vs Etrigan From DC comics
@thedishonoredamerican129
@thedishonoredamerican129 5 ай бұрын
@@newbornviking9721 I like this idea.
@bleachedshadow9981
@bleachedshadow9981 5 ай бұрын
This match up was awesome but what about my mom and dad in a court custody battle?
@dezaina9961
@dezaina9961 5 ай бұрын
Odin: its power has no equal. Also Odin:” that hammer was meant to help you focus your power”
@rileyowen7245
@rileyowen7245 5 ай бұрын
Not even toaa 😂
@gergernzero6904
@gergernzero6904 5 ай бұрын
Odin lied... He knew of hella, celestials, Zeus lighting bolt, and infinity stones. All are above it.
@izrael820
@izrael820 5 ай бұрын
@@gergernzero6904 when does Odin ever tell the truth
@treythegreatwhite
@treythegreatwhite 5 ай бұрын
Odin didn’t lie about hela😂 no one asked or found out her existence to question it.
@gergernzero6904
@gergernzero6904 5 ай бұрын
@@treythegreatwhite It implied in "no equal" ...
@bigyoshi5170
@bigyoshi5170 5 ай бұрын
Two big muscled beautiful men going at each other…oh my…I’m going to need a minute here
@luukzilla1519
@luukzilla1519 5 ай бұрын
That is kinda sus I love it
@ChocoMan569
@ChocoMan569 5 ай бұрын
Don't worry, you're not alone
@TheBombasticFatRat
@TheBombasticFatRat 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like something Deadpool would say
@alispeed5095
@alispeed5095 5 ай бұрын
hahaha you done?
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
Is u gay bro
@RelatableBlackGuy
@RelatableBlackGuy 5 ай бұрын
KZbinr: MAKE EM FIGHT!! Them in question: but I don’t wanna fight..
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 5 ай бұрын
"Creation-Feats and Destruction-Feats go hand in hand" Hahaha, wtf
@lolstalgic9602
@lolstalgic9602 5 ай бұрын
When you just want to write good fanfiction but people only care about the fight scenes
@RelatableBlackGuy
@RelatableBlackGuy 5 ай бұрын
@@lolstalgic9602 you understood the deep meaning
@HelenaSan425
@HelenaSan425 5 ай бұрын
Ah yes Thor vs Superman the matchup that even rivals Goku vs Superman and Thanos vs Darkseid
@Leontrophic682
@Leontrophic682 5 ай бұрын
What about Luke Skywalker Vs Artoria Pendragon
@HelenaSan425
@HelenaSan425 5 ай бұрын
@@Leontrophic682 i drawn Deku x Tohka lmao
@cbp117
@cbp117 5 ай бұрын
Yeah cause nitpicking diffrent stories makes sense.. 😅 Goku at least has a stright line story and not varuhus diffrent storeies where he sometimes is Op and sometimes low powered..
@ether2275
@ether2275 5 ай бұрын
@@Leontrophic682 Since when was this a thing?
@knightmare_edits
@knightmare_edits 5 ай бұрын
Nope. Darth Vader vs Mahito is more iconic. Can't believe you forgot to mention it.
@cbte4452
@cbte4452 5 ай бұрын
Just because a character "dodges" a photon based projectile doesn't mean they are reacting or moving at the speed of light. For example in the clip he showed of iron man 3, Killian is dodging iron man's blasts because he can see iron man raise his hands and begin to shoot. He just has to be faster than the guy shooting, not faster than the projectile itself
@carmicheallewis3840
@carmicheallewis3840 5 ай бұрын
FUCKING THANK YOU! So many of these channels try to say that because someone dodges an attack means they are moving at the same speed when that isn't at all the case.
@swagkashi
@swagkashi 5 ай бұрын
I didn’t even watch the Superman part yet but he’s giving the benefit of doubt because Superman is relative to flash in speed who literally traversed timelines
@patrickstar3820
@patrickstar3820 5 ай бұрын
​@@swagkashithat's what these guys do. Try to highball people in order to make the fight more even, so neither fanbase loses their minds. Reality of it is that thor was getting blitzed by quick silver. Who is about 2-5x faster than speed of sound, in the MCU. However, thor has very good travel speed feats, as a result of his weapons. Kinda like how a pilot can travel 1k times their actual speed. But they'll never be able to fight at that speed
@rileyowen7245
@rileyowen7245 5 ай бұрын
Finally someone understand 😂 damnit
@bobcob2640
@bobcob2640 5 ай бұрын
Except most the examples he showed have them reacting at the same or after the projectile is fired
@deanlennon4604
@deanlennon4604 4 ай бұрын
DCEU Superman vs MCU Thor (With Proof): 1: Superman was able to separate the mother boxes using his sheer strength. They form something called The Unity, which turns the planet's population into parademons and the planet itself into a firey hell world. So you could scale this feat to planetary level. 2: It was confirmed by Zack Synder that SteppenWolf fought the original Doomsday and their battle resulted in the destruction of a moon. So SteppenWolf can survive the destruction of a moon but can’t stand up to Superman’s punches. 3: In Zack Synder’s Justice League we learned the Kryptonian metal can with stand its core of being heated up to 3,500,000 kelvin. The centre of our sun is 1,100,000 kelvin. In Man of Steel Superman used his heat vision to take down a Kryptonian ship. So his heat vision would be 3x times hotter than the sun. 4: Superman has high durability. He took attacks from Faora-Ul, Nam-Ek, General Zod and Doomsday. Superman took a nuclear bomb to the face and it’s believed that he would’ve taken it no problem if he wasn’t still under the effects of kryptonite that Batman used on him. 5: He effortlessly beat the Justice League. Superman was also moving so fast he made them all look like statue’s except for Flash. 6: During his fight with SteppenWolf he just made him look stupid. Superman was moving so fast that SteppenWolf couldn’t even land a single punch on him. 7: During Man of Steel we know that the world engine is a Kryptonian terraforming ship. Just by landing it was able to annihilate mountains. So that means it’s made out of something that can withstand a mountain destroying impact. Not only did Supermam destroy the world engine he did it while WEAKENED and standing under a gravity beam that was single handily destroying the Earth. Superman was in the middle of that beam and he was at ground zero. He was taking all that force as well as all that energy and overpowered it. 8: SteppenWolf’s Electro Axe had absolutely no affect on him whatsoever and his axe is said to be stronger than Wonder Woman’s sword. 9: Superman could easily just statue Thor during the entire fight. He could easily disarm him of Stormbreaker and use his freeze breath to destroy it. Just like he did with the Electro Axe. 10: Thor May have taken the full force of a Neutron Star but he would’ve died from it if Groot didn’t make the handle for Stormbreaker. Thor’s weapons are like 80% of his power. He’s nothing without them. 11: Thor’s Battle IQ is completely useless. I mean look at General Zod. He said to Superman, I was bred to be a warrior trained my ENTIRE LIFE to MASTER MY SENSES. Yet Superman still beat him. 12: Also Thor has absolutely no experience in fighting Kryptonians.
@RokibulHassanRaihan-lk6nq
@RokibulHassanRaihan-lk6nq 4 ай бұрын
Who the fuck told you that Thor is nothing without his weapon? Did you see Thor Ragnarok?
@deanlennon4604
@deanlennon4604 4 ай бұрын
@@RokibulHassanRaihan-lk6nq 1: At the start of Avengers Infinity War Thano’s had Thor at his mercy and this was after Thor had tapped in to his true power. I mean if Thor is really that freaking strong, well then he should’ve destroyed Thano’s during the first encounter. 2: Thor even admitted without Stormbreaker facing Thano’s is suicide. 3: He couldn’t even fight the Hulk in Avengers (2012) he needed the help of Mjölnir. 4: During Ragnarok Thor’s strongest lightning blast didn’t do shit to Hela and before you use the excuse (as long as Hela is on Asgard she gets stronger,) look at his fight with the Hulk after he tapped into his true power and punched Hulk wasn’t even knocked out by it just a little bit fazed. So that tell me that Thor’s true power is nothing special. 5: In Avengers Endgame he had access to Mjölnir & Stormbreaker but was still getting his ass handed to him by Thano’s. Even with the help of Iron Mam & Captain America. Again before you bring up another excuse Thor was out of shape, The Russo Brothers even confirmed this was Thor’s strongest state. 6: At the start of Avengers Infinity War Ebony Maw was able to restrain him with metal bars. I mean he’s the GOD OF THUNDER not some regular human. 7: When Gorr trapped Thor, Lady Thor and Valkyrie on some planet Gorr fought Thor and stole Stormbreaker off him, so it seems to me Thor is can be very easily disarmed. 8: In Thor Love & Thunder he was getting his ass handed to him by Gorr and Lady Thor had to come and save him, otherwise he would’ve died. 9: In Avengers Age of Ultron he was again getting his ass handed to him by Ultron and Vision had to come and help him. 10: This isn’t got to do with his weapons but I can’t ignore this one. In Thor Ragnarok he got a chip stuck to his neck and couldn’t rip it off and was taken out by it whenever the grandmaster used it.
@lightism0002
@lightism0002 3 ай бұрын
@@deanlennon4604All of this is wrong Thor absolutely slams Superman
@deanlennon4604
@deanlennon4604 3 ай бұрын
@@lightism0002: Nah dude. Unless you can provide logical reasons is to why Thor wins, Superman dominates.
@lightism0002
@lightism0002 3 ай бұрын
@@deanlennon4604 Thor outscales and we can debate it
@Yabby036
@Yabby036 4 ай бұрын
Bro.... You shredded feats of thor more than superman... Like a biased fan. For the record thor didn't survive " neutron star" it was the heat only and the neutron star was dying. And wasn't naturally created in the universe. But i wouldn't say it wasn't powerful. It was roughly 1 million °c only. On the contrary superman survived a tactical nuke in his weakened state in BvS. Which was 100 million°c. You can google it. Also I'm happy you admitted that Stormbreaker wasn't as powerful as IG. That blast thanos shot was referred as " random bullshit" in comics. It really didn't show the power of IS. And in "dark world" thor didn't shatter the infinity stone. It was already in vapoured state. So by striking it with lightning he increased the kinetic energy of the particles of the RS and they finally "exploded". But as you saw it they got back together. Destroying that city was one of the greatest feat of thor I would say. But it was with the help of tony "heating up" the explosive underground motors made hil able to destroy it. And for the statement you gave" he can destroy continents by byfrost " he can channel it only to travel within it and as you saw in infinity war... The bifrost didn't cause any damage as he landed in wakanda. And as for his speed the things you defined as " things with light speed " actually they were just with speed of rockets tier. For example you said that he reached a new peak and he was showing "FTL" speed. If you did realized... The "beams" the aliens shooting wasn't light speed. And my proof is that when thor came to the battle ground and stood on the rock... Yiu can see that the beams they were firing took 0.8 to 1.2 seconds to travel approx 1.5 km and they were their grand weapons not some low tier weapons on the flying ships... So with the amount of time and distance given above ... The speed of the beams become approx 1 to 1.5km/s and clearly light is 299997 km/s fast. They were just ordinary bullets with long range of shoots. And once again in the dark world you stated that thor has "light speed " showcasing he pushed out loki out of a black hole. Man i don't know how you thought that through ... But to give you an idea, he came from the side travelling from a place where the black hole had no effect. ( Because if it wasn't he couldn't have gained the momentum to push out loki) . If he wasn't in the effect of the black hole... He didn't outspeed the black hole he just swing by and changed the direction by " momentum" not by "speed". In order to outspeed a black hole you need to be in its gravity field like superman. And the desttoyer... He wasn't firing a laser it was a fire channeled by his shape of eyes like when thanos absorbed the fire caused by Iron man's explosives by the IG and channeled them directly. Overall i realized that you didn't go through or do reaserch on superman's feats as thor when you explained aka " showed thors like 9 mins and superman's barely 3 mins ( even with talking about others's feats.) and you just wanted to show that thor was more powerful than superman. BTW if you wanna debate just reply to me. And i highly doubt that you haven't seen this comment. And the funny thing is that you mentioned that hela threw daggers faster than the speed of bifrost. My only answer for this is "remember the first law of newton".
@Ingolenuru
@Ingolenuru Ай бұрын
Your temperature comparison is not relevant. What we are talking about is power output. The Tsar Bomba, the largest nuclear explosion ever to take place on Earth, gave off the equivalent of 50 megatons of TNT: 210 petajoules of energy. On the other hand, the overwhelming majority of the Sun's energy comes from the hottest regions; 99% of the Sun's energy output comes from regions at 10 million K or hotter, despite the fact that such a region makes up only a small percentage of the core's volume. The Sun emits the equivalent of 4 × 1026 J of energy each second, by comparison, some 2 billion times more energy than the Tsar Bomba gave off. The neutron star gives off 100,000 times more energy than the sun. Your tiny nuclear bomb no matter how hot is not impressive at all. Power. Real power. That is impressive. Thor by these feats can tank incomprehensibly more power than Superman. 200,000,000,000,000 times more energy than the largest nuclear bomb ever exploded on the planet. Yeah.
@K-nx3jk
@K-nx3jk 8 күн бұрын
Damn bro
@K-nx3jk
@K-nx3jk 8 күн бұрын
the Bifrost wasn't used to its full destructive potential. When it was employed, it was aimed more at creating a portal for transportation rather than as a weapon. Additionally, the Bifrost's power can vary depending on how it's wielded. In Thor's case, he likely used it to quickly get to the battle rather than to destroy anything. The focus was on the characters and the battle rather than showcasing the full destructive capability of the Bifrost.
@Yabby036
@Yabby036 8 күн бұрын
@@Ingolenuru bro... The first couple lines of your reply was kínda interesting. But then you started to go though the power of the sun , the neutron star and the most powerful bomb even exploded. And you thought or simulated the scene like Thor was thrown in the neutron star. I'm gonna go through everything so, be read carefully. First the energy a neutron star emit can be factorized by mass, age , diameter and others . In our case we don't know age or mass so we'll go for diameter. The neutron star in nidavellir was surrounded by the Dyson sphere (if you don't know what a Dyson sphere is a set of rings that will help harness the energy from any kind of star. You can search it on Google for more info.) and it was very big as you saw in the movie , when it was inactive it completely made the neutron star dark. I'll take it as 50-70% the volume of the actual neutron star + the Dyson sphere. approx... the neutron star should be 7- 12 km in diameter. and an average neutron star is almost 1 million degree Celsius or 1.8 millions degree Fahrenheit. and logically thinking this neutron star in infinity war have lower diameter than average and also, the older a neutron star the colder it gets. (bc neutron star don't produce any more heat (u can google that.)) also thinking that nidavellir is Asgardians weapon crafting place and Asgardians are very old races, we can conclude that that neutron star was at least 10-25% colder(remember it's a dying neutron star). since the Dyson sphere will take all the energy from the neutron star and channels it to one point, we can say there's almost 750,000 to 1 million degree Celsius. and sure Thor took almost all of it. ( I said almost bc there was a heat that wasn't hitting him which was used to craft the stormbreaker.) if you read this and find some mistake , just reply.
@Yabby036
@Yabby036 8 күн бұрын
@@K-nx3jk what is your point bro?
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 5 ай бұрын
BIG BOY FEATS in this video!
@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! :)
@cw9468
@cw9468 5 ай бұрын
​@@ChuckAre we forgetting that a star, the thing that nearly killed thor would power up Superman. If the battle went into space, this fight easily goes to Superman. On earth, it could go either way, although i do think the speed difference gives Superman a hyge advantage. Also, i truly do believe Superman is more durable and can potentially dish out more damage.
@omglol9571
@omglol9571 5 ай бұрын
​​ @cw9468 That's still a really insane durability feat for thor. because that's Superman hax. It's like saying ice living in a place of -9999 degrees when's that's his hax. Thor didn't have his storm breaker. Otherwise, he would've survived way longer. Superman also struggled to survive a nuke even though he was in a weakened state. Same even thor thor a blast of power stone, a bad beating for thanos, and still survive minutes, unlike Superman, who surggle to survive a nuke. So thor takes durability
@moonknight4053
@moonknight4053 3 ай бұрын
Thors weaker versions withstood punches from ultron who is more powerful than a nuke lol. Thors durability is planet +++++
@juiceekay7428
@juiceekay7428 5 ай бұрын
MCU Thor has the potential to kill DCEU Superman the question is, can he even hit him?
@AuroraBoost
@AuroraBoost 5 ай бұрын
Yes, yes he can
@PPPPPPPPP135
@PPPPPPPPP135 5 ай бұрын
​@@AuroraBoostno he can't, sup is way too fast
@AuroraBoost
@AuroraBoost 5 ай бұрын
@PPPPPPPPP135 Sup is fast but it's not gonna stop Thor's thunder from striking him if he gets near him. I'm giving the edge to Superman but the fight can literally go either way
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, why wouldn’t he be able to?
@epsyfn
@epsyfn 2 ай бұрын
@@AuroraBoostyou’re so wrong
@AOTmultiverse
@AOTmultiverse 5 ай бұрын
You spent almost 11 mins talking about Thor in a 16mins versus video, I already knew you’d say Thor wins…
@Rorschach010
@Rorschach010 5 ай бұрын
Stand Proud Superman You Are Strong.
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 5 ай бұрын
Nah I'd punch
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 5 ай бұрын
The strongest main superhero of DC vs the strongest main superhero of Marvel. This fight will determine which one of them is the challenger.
@Superboyprime0
@Superboyprime0 5 ай бұрын
Superman is the definition of the Strongest
@phamchithien
@phamchithien 4 ай бұрын
@@kanyerahming thor is the strongest marvel super hero ??? you have got to be kidding me lol , even scarlet witch or doctor strange prob can fuck thor up and he wouldnt even know =))
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 4 ай бұрын
@@phamchithien if you were a jujutsu kaisen fan, you probably would’ve understood my reference. But I was quoting a line from JJK and applying it to this. I know Thor isn’t the strongest lol
@again-again-again
@again-again-again 4 ай бұрын
Ok, i was totally buying all of these until you mentioned Cyborg being able to react to Superman's hear vision which travels at light speed, in that same scene, Batman literally reacted to it the same way Cyborg did by blocking it with his gauntlet, So........
@stevein.
@stevein. 5 ай бұрын
I agree with the result though I disagree with some feats. 1 Him able to throw Zeus' lightning bolt and piercing his chest doesn't make him after or more powerful than him. Remember Zeus here was not serious and pretty ridiculous hence not operating at his peak. 2 Hela wasn't throwing daggers faster than the bifrost. If you're in a plane moving at light speed and you throw a ball, will it be moving faster than the plane?, No. The bifrost acts like a tractor beam in which you can only move at the same speed as its attractive force. 3 Him withstanding a force of a neutron star for 4min,20 sec is both impressive but also low showing as that same feat nearly killed him if he didn't acquire stormbreaker on time. 4 Zeus was afraid of the Nekron sword which could kill any deity which means we can't scale gorr's strength feats based on the sword. Also Jane foster(thor) faired well against Gorr which make his strength feats not that impressive as he also was fighting on par with Thor most of the movie. 5 Since Stormbreaker isn't a worthy based weapon, there's a possibility that Superman can and will use it against Thor just as Thanos did. 6 MCU characters have speed inconsistencies throughout the films.
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
Thank u for this sound reasoning
@anthonypugh28
@anthonypugh28 5 ай бұрын
No way Thor wins this fight
@The_muslim_maurauder
@The_muslim_maurauder 4 ай бұрын
Thor does EASILY
@nicksonleslie7366
@nicksonleslie7366 3 ай бұрын
​@Fentanylenjoyer... bruh stop the cap 😂😂😂
@dwencastro7267
@dwencastro7267 Ай бұрын
😅wake up men
@dwencastro7267
@dwencastro7267 Ай бұрын
​@@The_muslim_maurauderwake up bro 😄
@HighOuter
@HighOuter Ай бұрын
Wake up kid,thor can't even hit Superman
@tylerscott2116
@tylerscott2116 4 ай бұрын
Here's one aspect you left out, that is super relevant to how Superman is Superman in The Man Of Steel version. There is something equally relevant that Kal El has going on with him that is just as profound, if not more than all of Thor's experience. The Codex. All of the genetic potential of Kryptonians and peak of functionality in every possible task in a very ancient and advanced society was held within the codex. They genetical programmed and predetermined a kryptonians destiny of what they would be by biologically hijacking them to be hyperfunctional relative to certain archetypal societal tasks. That entire codex is bonded to Kal. I think this implies for sure, that Superman isn't just Superman because of his powerset. But because he is genetically predisposed to be the best at everything essentially by the entire codex being bonded to his DNA. Think about it. Zod was a Kryptonian trained to be a soldier and genetically engineered to be the ultimate soldier, so we're his minions. They also had armor and Super weapons, Aircraft. And Superman beat all of them. I always took it as it was because the unlimited potential that Clark stored in his DNA, unilateral of his Kryptonian Powers. Superman takes the Win because of The Codex.
@ArtByAhri
@ArtByAhri 4 ай бұрын
superman would break thor in 2 before he can blink 🤣. i'm marvel fan but it's the truth. thor is not a god, he's basically an alien. but superman strength and speed is far beyond thor period.
@nerdcorner2680
@nerdcorner2680 5 ай бұрын
MCU Infinity War Thor is crazy. God of Thunder Mode that lets him one shot Hulk. Tanking a Star attack, while a moon attack nearly wiped half the Avengers. Only Avenger stronger at the time was Dr.Strange
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 5 ай бұрын
"Creation-Feats and Destruction-Feats go hand in hand" Hahaha
@nerdcorner2680
@nerdcorner2680 5 ай бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 There is no creation feat there? A star blasted Thor’s chest, a moon landed on the Avengers. Both durability
@mmanzanozr1
@mmanzanozr1 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that same neutron star would power Superman up lol
@caliginousmoira8565
@caliginousmoira8565 5 ай бұрын
@@nerdcorner2680 pieces... not the whole moon. if the entire moon hit the planet they are all deadl
@caliginousmoira8565
@caliginousmoira8565 5 ай бұрын
@@mmanzanozr1 so superman gets powered up by all suns now......................?
@crossfire6558
@crossfire6558 5 ай бұрын
Almost completely agree. Although two main things I kinda disagree. But I'll leave it aside as this is still the very near perfect video for both characters. Mad respect for being completely unbiased
@uzookafor8721
@uzookafor8721 5 ай бұрын
Glad you covered this topic,alot of people think dceu super man is going to blitz mcu thor which is wrong by the way. Thor wins mid to high diff.thor has more source material and feats from movies that put him above dceu super man.but i do agree the fight would be close.
@JeZuse777
@JeZuse777 5 ай бұрын
The beginning of justice league alone gives wonder women a feat above Thor she defeated ares who defeated darkseid sups came back not fazed by an attack by someone who defeated doomsday powered up? Crack came back or it never left 🙄
@uzookafor8721
@uzookafor8721 5 ай бұрын
@@JeZuse777 nope.did you pay attention to his video.thor has a higher AP,raw power and durability than super man but not a massive gap, which puts him above Wonder woman.The Darkseid that was injured in battle was not at his peak.
@uzookafor8721
@uzookafor8721 5 ай бұрын
@@JeZuse777 just because she defeated Ares does not make her above Thor. power scale Ares properly with feats
@JeZuse777
@JeZuse777 4 ай бұрын
So mcu fat old zues is op got one shot by Thor but a young ares taking out a billion year old darkseid is him being young ha ha stop it. Because ain’t no more power ups Superman get it the fight when he would defeat darkseid and the powered up steppinwoulf didn’t even fazed him. Thor is not seeing Superman my guy.
@uzookafor8721
@uzookafor8721 4 ай бұрын
@@JeZuse777 shh, watch the video properly and keep your opinions to your self
@Sukuna1983
@Sukuna1983 4 ай бұрын
Are we not taking narrative into account here? Narratively Superman is portrayed as someone who fights with the speed he travels with. Thor's combat speed is not nearly as fast as him traveling while throwing mjolnir. I don't think Superman would perception blitz him, but I doubt Thor could really keep up. Superman wins this mid-diff
@zebkai2890
@zebkai2890 5 ай бұрын
great vid man, always thought MCU was quite downplayed on wikis
@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@arc4859
@arc4859 4 ай бұрын
Power scaling is so dumb. How it would actually go going off of their fights would be very similar to Superman vs Steppenwolf, where Superman just wipes the floor with Thor.
@rob6912
@rob6912 2 ай бұрын
Even that could be power scaled because Stephen wolf fought the og doomsday in the dceu on a moon that's blown up in the back of krypton. So what the fuck happen to superman when he was in that coffin 💀💀🤣
@jondiaz3329
@jondiaz3329 5 ай бұрын
I respect this video because you specified the movies and the versions of the character's we're talking about. Idc what anyone thinks on this one because at least we're limiting it to 2 specific versions of each character. I get so sick of "Superman vs character" vids where we just pretend like there's not about 100 yrs of history and at least 5 different versions of Superman from different eras that range from reality warping/godlike powers to high end superhuman.
@fortunewilliam255
@fortunewilliam255 5 ай бұрын
You never even referenced the nuke feat, his striking feats which consistently create shockwaves and the world engine feats. You spent longer time on Thors feat and quickly brushed over Superman's. It's a close fight, but DCEU Superman has much raw power and strength. He'll win MCU Thor, 7/10 times
@joshcoolzwit1364
@joshcoolzwit1364 5 ай бұрын
I thought it was stated that thor shook the entire planet of jotunheim
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 2 ай бұрын
@@joshcoolzwit1364 he did
@exio129
@exio129 4 ай бұрын
i love how good the video topics are and how good the video quality is in this channel, keep it up chuck
@Chuck
@Chuck 4 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@pallen2645
@pallen2645 4 ай бұрын
Thor's feats on Nidavaliir are crazy, and nothing Superman does in the Snyderverse films comes close. Moving rings of that size within the gravity well of a neutron star is a bonkers strength feat, and tanking the entire power output of that same star for a full minute is mindblowing durability.
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 2 ай бұрын
@@pallen2645 that’s why I don’t understand how people think Superman would beat him lmao, he literally just doesn’t have the feats
@pallen2645
@pallen2645 2 ай бұрын
@@kanyerahming I think people have a really hard time when you limit your sources to just the films. It's hard to get out of your head everything those characters can do in the comics. In the comics, yes, Superman is stronger and tougher than Thor. But not in the films.
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 2 ай бұрын
@@pallen2645i guess, but comics and movies were never connected so people shouldn't have a problem with that. people are willing to accept superman's tectonic plate feat despite it being off screen but not thor's neutron star feat which was literally said to have the full output of a star. also, in the comics i'd say they're more even than anything else.
@pallen2645
@pallen2645 2 ай бұрын
@@kanyerahming In the comics it's closer than most people think. A lot of Superman's cited feats are nonsense, especially when he's interacting with mythic objects and using that data to extrapolate physical limits, ie lifing a magical book with infinite pages does not imply he can lift infinite weight. It has infinite pages because it's magical, not because it literally has that much mass, but plenty of people will argue this feats sets an infinitely high strength limit for Superman when that simply doesn't follow logically.
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 2 ай бұрын
@@pallen2645 the infinite pages feat is also overrated since the book doesn’t even has mass since they’re in limbo, which has zero material weight. So Superman was more trying to comprehend infinity than actually lift it.
@johnnydepp6843
@johnnydepp6843 5 ай бұрын
Superman clear win this fight
@DahGabriel-gk2cr
@DahGabriel-gk2cr 4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@ashtonpeppard3663
@ashtonpeppard3663 4 ай бұрын
Thor is stronger and more durable but superman is just too quick for him
@Callumdevan17
@Callumdevan17 4 ай бұрын
​@@ashtonpeppard3663Thor is not stronger and more durable 😂 seriously?
@silver______
@silver______ 5 ай бұрын
Should be comparing a verse with comparable lore to the Mcu like the Superman and Lois verse. Tyler H’s superman Vs Mcu Thor would be a killer video. Either way good breakdown G.
@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Zaacdrums
@Zaacdrums 5 ай бұрын
Tyler superman wins. That guy is on another level than mos superman
@silver______
@silver______ 5 ай бұрын
@@Zaacdrums Definitely agree.
@carltaylor2975
@carltaylor2975 3 ай бұрын
Great video! To explain Hela throwing the daggers faster than the bifrost though it's kind of like this, she's already going that fast, so it's easy for her to throw faster than that. Think of throwing a baseball inside a moving car that's going 60 mph, you barely have to throw it to get it moving at 65 mph. I think that I have a grasp on this but if I'm wrong anyone can feel free to explain it to me.
@Darkwing709
@Darkwing709 5 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure Thor wins this fight. He’s has the clear advantage in AP and durability, and overall hax with his lightning magic that he can fire either from his weapon or omnidirectional from his entire body while unarmed, his control over the bifrost as a projectile blast could be a threat too. Superman only has a speed advantage which is arguable, his heat vision can be countered or dodged by Thor, and his frost breath wouldn’t do much of anything IMO compared to the frost powers and extream temperatures thor has dealt with. Thor is also clearly the superior fighter skill wise, not only having thousands of year’s experience, but in overall technique and battle IQ. The odds of him finding a way to win is higher than Superman doing the same against someone he can’t simply overpower which would be the case here.
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
That is cope
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
Superman will absorb the Star's rediation and get even stronger bro
@gamingtoast7974
@gamingtoast7974 5 ай бұрын
​@user-ro3ju8ds9i I like how you are saying this guy is coping when i have seen you under so many comments trying to argue with people on why Superman wins. You are the one that is coping. Also, you say that Superman can get stronger in the sun like Thor would just let him. And you dont even know how long it would take for superman to get as strong as thor using that method. So please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
@@gamingtoast7974 bro the video even backs me up wtf are u talking about😅
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
@@gamingtoast7974 I said Thor being durable because of the neutron star feat is irrelevant because superman would get stronger from it if superman was in a similar situation with the neutron star ...😄 how is that cope ..superman gets stronger from solar radiation .Thor wouldn't even know it's making superman stronger coz he doesn't know anything about superman ...by the time he realizes it it would be too late
@HopeReviews
@HopeReviews 18 күн бұрын
Great video BTW!
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 5 ай бұрын
I think it could be even, with Thor having more experience and Superman can always be amped by the Sun. Now end of Love and Thunder Thor could have a chance, but had we seen Cavil Superman face off against Black Adam then maybe the edge could have gone to him. However, we might never see that. Great video as always Chuck
@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@PYRATE31
@PYRATE31 5 ай бұрын
Black Adam is Weak bro in the movie
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 5 ай бұрын
@@PYRATE31 definitely not, though they did downplay DR. Fate
@johndiddilyjoe6258
@johndiddilyjoe6258 5 ай бұрын
What a nothing statement. Almost as bad as "I think they would just be friends"
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 5 ай бұрын
@@johndiddilyjoe6258 What a bad counter argument that you have nothing to add to the discussion. What a nothing response
@YaboySuper2
@YaboySuper2 2 ай бұрын
Man of Steel meets God of Thunder
@mythicaltyrant7476
@mythicaltyrant7476 5 ай бұрын
Thor one shots dceu superman not even a contest. Thor is cleary stronger, more durable, has more attack power, better travel speed . I mean his strength alone blows plastic man out of the water. He can quite literal one shot sup. Faora koed superman while she got koed by a basic missle... i mean its insane i thought this was settled already thor claps horrifically. Remember thor tanked power stone and reality stone at full power one when he was not Awakened and after. Neutron star as well.
@DahGabriel-gk2cr
@DahGabriel-gk2cr 4 ай бұрын
Nope DCEU Supes solos MCU Thor.
@mythicaltyrant7476
@mythicaltyrant7476 4 ай бұрын
@@DahGabriel-gk2cr nope
@mythicaltyrant7476
@mythicaltyrant7476 4 ай бұрын
@@DahGabriel-gk2cr nope. Thor is stronger he lifted moon size rings as shown in infinity war, the vfx also stated they are indeed moon size. And they have been calculated to be larger than anything soup man can do. Zach synder already stated he can't even lift a continent 🤣. So he's stronger, attack power In thor 1 he shook a planet in jotenhium as stated by the movie directors. And he performed the same feats in age of ultron, and durability wise he tanked Power stone. And reality stone at full power which as gonna casually destroy the universe💀 also mjolnir is faster than superman in travel speed, and he can react ag light speed when he fought destroyer he easily reacted to his beams were confirmed light speed so rip. Thor out classes plastic man with feats over and over again cry harder.
@DahGabriel-gk2cr
@DahGabriel-gk2cr 4 ай бұрын
@@mythicaltyrant7476 When did Zach ever confirm that Superman can't lift a continent when it is literally stated in his movie that Superman is stronger than a planet, do you realize how dumb you sound. Supes solos that god of jokes.
@DahGabriel-gk2cr
@DahGabriel-gk2cr 4 ай бұрын
@@mythicaltyrant7476 and no Thor fangay mjonir is not faster Superman 🥴. Dude resisted the pull of a black hole to the phantom zone which is beyond space and time.
@sarrjel
@sarrjel 4 ай бұрын
I think they should do a movie. Marvel and DC get Thor with Chris Hemsworth and Superman Henry Caville in a movie cross over. I mentioned in another channel that Marvel should do a cross over with Superman and Captain America as well. I think it would be a good fight but I think in the end Superman would win. He has too many advantages; heat vision, frost breath, flight, super speed, super strength and physical endurance as well as invincible from physical attacks. Thor has many of the same strengths and powers but he needs the hammer to fly and shoot lightning. Well, I guess if we're going by Ragnorak and Storm Breaker powers and weilding the Storm Breaker against Superman he would give the Man of Steel a run for his money. So, I guess it would be an interesting and maybe a close fight but without Storm Breaker I don't think he would be able to use the full capacity of his power. This isn't a slight that Thor is a weak hero of The Avengers. He's one of my most favorite heros of the movies.
@shzarmai
@shzarmai 5 ай бұрын
please make a vs battle including Mash from Mashle
@alatusedits
@alatusedits 5 ай бұрын
Thor wins as expected
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
Did u watch the video😂
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
I dont think we watched the same video bro
@gamingtoast7974
@gamingtoast7974 5 ай бұрын
​@user-ro3ju8ds9i Chuck literally stated thor wins more times than not. Are you an idiot?
@beaudennis51
@beaudennis51 5 ай бұрын
Nah superman negs
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 3 ай бұрын
Speed in combat and travel: massively hypersonic + to light speed
@thereader171
@thereader171 5 ай бұрын
There is one more thing that Superman has an advantage of, and that is he can get massive powerboost by absorbimg solar radiation mid fight
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 5 ай бұрын
I like Clark better but idk why people think he would win, he’s clearly outmatched in almost every way. Not that it’s a stomp, but still.
@briangriffin77890
@briangriffin77890 Ай бұрын
Laser and light blasts aren’t proof of light speed, those lasers and light beams are all clearly moving at normal speeds. if even we can perceive the movement in normal speed, “captured” by normal cameras (i know its CGI but still), then its not that fast. but even if that was the case, i think its more likely that they are reacting to the knowledge of where the enemy is aiming and see them shooting, like jedi do with lightsabers
@shzarmai
@shzarmai 5 ай бұрын
Someone should create an SCP on which language is weaponized e.g. a dialect of a language can be used to kill others or maim others for example. Or to even create invulnerable conceptual defenses.
@Daveyboy_GolfR
@Daveyboy_GolfR 4 ай бұрын
DCEU Superman versus MCU Thor is a stomp. DCEU version of Superman is far closer to the comics then Thor.
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 4 ай бұрын
Thor would win because of a combination of having magic (which is one of the things Superman is weak to), far more experience fighting and having combat training.
@ИмяИмя-ю4д
@ИмяИмя-ю4д 4 ай бұрын
Так же тор по силе и прочности гораздо выше супермена DCEU.
@lowdistortion
@lowdistortion 5 ай бұрын
No it wouldn't be close, dceu supes is not only stronger than mcu Thor, but he's billions of times faster. He would win every single time
@theretroshogun2961
@theretroshogun2961 5 ай бұрын
Eh debatable
@OMZeditz1
@OMZeditz1 5 ай бұрын
Can you do a Omni-man vs MCU Thor
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Superman would decimate MCU Thor. But Stormbreaker could definitely kill Superman. Thor has a knack for losing to guys on his strength level or above (Hulk,Kurse,Hela,Thanos). Meanwhile Superman was shown to be superior to everyone most of the time
@PYRATE31
@PYRATE31 5 ай бұрын
Where is the decimating from 🤐🤐 Kurse at that time was way stronger n durable than Sup bro it's not even close ... Hela, Thanos outscales bro . Maybe Hulk will be ok
@Superboyprime0
@Superboyprime0 5 ай бұрын
@@PYRATE31superman possess invulnerablity means almost no weapon can penetrate his skin, and no one is more powerful than Superman on earth under yellow sun, just watch MOS so much destruction and Superman doesn’t have a scratch on his suit, also Superman punches generate shockwave, even a single punch was able to destroy krypton ship
@PYRATE31
@PYRATE31 5 ай бұрын
@@Superboyprime0 what U smoking bruh 😂😂😂 Stormbreaker can cut clean no dif
@PYRATE31
@PYRATE31 5 ай бұрын
@@Superboyprime0 it's a king's weapon dude that's all it needs to be
@Superboyprime0
@Superboyprime0 5 ай бұрын
@@PYRATE31 you should know more about Superman then, even if it can cut it, Superman just takes Stromebreaker from Thor and cut his head before he even realise, now go cry
@dobi287
@dobi287 5 ай бұрын
Short answer is.... yes EASILY
@_thebigsteve
@_thebigsteve 5 ай бұрын
Superman definitely takes it more times than not and especially in honest comparison to where they would be in respect to chronologically in their franchises. Realistically with where snyders superman ended that would be arguably the end of phase 1 or 2 of the mcu which would have at highest strength levels thor beating maliketh, holding back the chitari army, and blowing up sachovia.Superman meanwhile survived a direct nuke after being seriously effed up in a fight with batman and doomsday consecutively. He also as you said took on the whole justice league pretty easily and displayed continental levels of strength minimum let alone the kryptonian man of steel gravity feats. If you want to take it though where the story boards end in the dceu vs where thor is currently though it still leans toward superman at least in terms of speed. It doesnt help that Thors power scaling is all over the place and he was taken down on saccar by a net. As for the sun feats the same power exposure would only make superman more powerful. Thor is strong but he's not superman strong. Also Hemsworth said wonder woman would beat thor and superman beat wonderwoman so gg 😂
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 3 ай бұрын
Speed in combat: Massively faster than light + (mftl +)
@goodenoughboamahgyamfi2114
@goodenoughboamahgyamfi2114 5 ай бұрын
bro, thor is no where near speed of sound, not to mention light. Reaction speed and traveling speed ain't the same. For example, being able to react to a bullet, doesn't make you as fast or faster than a bullet. Stop trying to give thor speed feats he doesn't have. 💀
@drsupreme1971
@drsupreme1971 5 ай бұрын
This guy is an obvious Marvel fanboy..He spent the majority of the video championing Thor and brushed over Superman feats lmao..This channel is even a Marvel fanatics channel
@PPPPPPPPP135
@PPPPPPPPP135 5 ай бұрын
​​@@drsupreme1971He just doesn't want to upset his Thor fans. Sup clearly wins
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 5 ай бұрын
Mjolnir literally travelled from space to earth in seconds and breaks the sound barrier repeatedly, and actually does have light speed reaction feats. He’s clearly not nowhere near Mach 1.
@TheRealLastJedi721
@TheRealLastJedi721 4 ай бұрын
@@drsupreme1971he does this for speed feats in all his videos nothing new bro clearly a marvel die hard
@skitzo899
@skitzo899 5 ай бұрын
now this is a good matchup
@Youngphillynorf
@Youngphillynorf 5 ай бұрын
Thor wasn't speed blitzed wtf ate u talking about
@hikoseijuro9291
@hikoseijuro9291 5 ай бұрын
The real question is does Thor stand a chance?
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 3 ай бұрын
and medium to high end: universal to multiversal to high hypervasl to higher outer aks ( 2A to high 1b to high A)
@edwarde7009
@edwarde7009 5 ай бұрын
And I also feel like supes can pick up mljnor
@absolutleynotanalien8096
@absolutleynotanalien8096 5 ай бұрын
The knife didn't need to travel in the opposite direction just slower than those in it, the dyson sphere was being exposed to far less than the surface gravity due to distance and only a small portion of its light hits thor.
@IvanMoncure
@IvanMoncure 5 ай бұрын
Also Mjolnir accelerates the longer it travels in a straight line. In the scene where Quicksilver grabs it, it’s not going very fast.
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 2 ай бұрын
@@IvanMoncure exactly. Idk why people scale that feat to mjolnirs top speeds when it was just a casual throw
@IvanMoncure
@IvanMoncure 2 ай бұрын
@@kanyerahming Its more easily scalable to Thor’s reactions than to Mjolnir Movement.
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 2 ай бұрын
@@IvanMoncure exactly
@treythegreatwhite
@treythegreatwhite 5 ай бұрын
Ppl forget this Superman got cooked by Batman using the green gass/ kryptonite. He couldn’t even fight back, so Thor can travel anywhere with storm breaker to get kryptonite and sliced his head off like Thanos
@kanyerahming
@kanyerahming 5 ай бұрын
What makes you think he’d need the kryptonite? Plus, even if he knew, which he wouldn’t unless you’re giving him prep time, that would be out of character for him to do.
@gokijin
@gokijin 2 ай бұрын
Feels like you're downplaying Thor's speed to give Superman an out and a small win con. Especially since every Thor is already dodging light speed attacks, and the fact he's casually moving around and dodging attacks inside the Bifrost while traveling at MFTL. Enjoyed the video though.
@BlackWolf_BW7
@BlackWolf_BW7 5 ай бұрын
Firstly, superman is too fast. He was literally owning flash, someone who could reverse the destruction of the world. Superman had the strength to pull apart motherboxes that can terraform literal planets. And he literally owned the justice league. Thor has never probably owned a superhero team. Even Steve and Tony were going toe to toe with Thor. If superman was there, Steve and Tony would have been speedblitzed. For magic, as I said. Superman is just too fast for this version of Thor. He can dodge his magic and lightning and give Thor a purple eye.
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 5 ай бұрын
Superman only “owns” flash when they are Together because any time the flash is with the Justice league he gets nerfed to high hell. The flash out ran instant teleportation across the universe, I’m sorry Superman is not moving that fast, that’s a highly inconsistent argument. That’s like saying Thor is stronger then the hulk because on one occasion he knocked out a weaker then normal hulk.
@BlackWolf_BW7
@BlackWolf_BW7 5 ай бұрын
@@justingabriel1765 there was no weaker than before hulk and Thor was getting beat by iron man and Steve. Wtf did you expect? If supes was there. He would one-shot both. And that's an assumption made out of nowhere. Where the fuck is it said that flash is weaker with the league but faster alone?
@Tian113
@Tian113 5 ай бұрын
Terraforming planets is nice and all but thor literally countered a blast from the power stone, something that could destroy planets with ease.
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 5 ай бұрын
@@BlackWolf_BW7 it’s not an assumption it’s literally what’s on the screen and page. Flash when he’s in stories with the league just does not do the things that he does by himself. In the injustice movie dude was killed by a saw balde. Like he could have phased through it, ran into the room and checked it 3 times over before any machine in there could know he was there. It was so ridiculous. There should be no realistic way that the guy who can run fast enough to travel through time, and out run instant teleportation, should be slower then Superman. That’s utterly ridiculous. Just like people who complain that there’s any realistic way Batman beats Superman, but there’s comics in which it happens and everyone can acknowledge that it’s ridiculous. I’m not saying Superman wouldn’t beat Thor and then yeah I’m not dumb, but I think your reason as to why he’s faster is ridiculous. Flash thinks in super speed, to the point that he actually has to slow down his brain to have a normal conversation. He could essentially do what Metro Man did in megamind and move so fast that everything around him is so slow that it looks like time “stopped”. You tell me then how that guy is slower then Superman without it being the classic case of needing to nerf characters when they meet to not make them too OP. It doesn’t have to be stated officially its right there where the flash is just uncharacteristically dumb or not as fast as he usually is.
@BlackWolf_BW7
@BlackWolf_BW7 5 ай бұрын
@@justingabriel1765 why are you bringing the injustice movie? Read the injustice comics or play the injustice game. In the comics and game, flash literally beat superman at some time. Superman dared not to mess with him. And superman beating flash is a good feat no matter how you put it mate. But I do respect what you said tho. Writers have nerfed flash at some times.
@Cipher_Paul
@Cipher_Paul 5 ай бұрын
Blue Beetle is actually not part of the new DCEU according to James Gunn. Which makes sense considering the movies he planned to make didn't include any Blue Beetle movie.
@hdl3044
@hdl3044 5 ай бұрын
If you don’t use the storyboard wank for Superman and grant the old school lack of magic resistance for Superman Thor definitely wins IMO
@owlobsidian6965
@owlobsidian6965 5 ай бұрын
But the question would be is Thor's lightning even magic? I don't think MCU has actual supernatural magic, just highly advanced scientific manipulation and technology. One could also argue Thor's lightning is normal natural lighting simply summoned by means of magic.
@Chokominuts
@Chokominuts 5 ай бұрын
ANOTHER W. 🗣️💯🔥
@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@deinsports8328
@deinsports8328 4 ай бұрын
I would say it’s Thor wining because one of. Super man’s weakness is magic and there are multiple objects Thor can use
@moonknight4053
@moonknight4053 5 ай бұрын
Hey Chuck but given Thor died to the neutron Star blast won’t that make his durability solar system plus? Meaning superman can’t do anything to him?
@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499
@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 5 ай бұрын
A feat before that easily gets him there Which Is surviving the statemen explotion, that ship was able to go through a collapsing neutron Star which Is solar system level and Thor survived the explotion of the ship that was caused by the power stone meaning His more durable than it. And after some hours he held the rings of nivadelir which are moon sized and the neutron Star all together despait being mortally wounded by the statemen explotion. Superman can harm a little but Thor Is capable of tanking and enduring anything he trows at him with this feat. Thor was agonizing but he didn't die as he was clearly moving and breathing.
@moonknight4053
@moonknight4053 5 ай бұрын
@@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 He was about to die bro, but the fact that he withstood that amount of energy puts him easily above superman. Thors durability at a lowball should be star level, striking wise tho Thors planet ++. He was poorly written in age of ultron, he looked like he used all his might to destroy sokovia… lol fuckin weak sauce
@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
A neutron star IS a dying star, lol.
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
​@@moonknight4053that kind of power would amp superman lol
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
​@@Darkverse111 million kelvin for neutron stars ..superman has above 3.5 million kelvin
@ligeringspirit1133
@ligeringspirit1133 5 ай бұрын
Like I don't know about you if thor has the strength like Thanos you think he could battle superman? Not even close dude
@vlalramzauva6573
@vlalramzauva6573 4 ай бұрын
I can see Thor’s axe stop like Steppenwolf
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 3 ай бұрын
Medium range: planetary + to star level possibly solar system level
@JeezAlax
@JeezAlax 3 ай бұрын
I think this was a pretty fair conclusion, but it was pretty worthless to bring up the storyboard of Justice League. It's a storyboard, and anything not present is the actual film should be considered non-canon. It was cut for a reason.
@martinabraham6138
@martinabraham6138 5 ай бұрын
We’ve had a lot more movies centered on Thor and not enough to fully explore the evolution of Superman - Based on your super match up, I was educated on Thor but there isn’t enough data to truly evaluate Superman. Thor fight with a weapon, Superman doesn’t - finally I’m a die hard Superman and Henry fan
@MoxieMike66
@MoxieMike66 8 күн бұрын
Humbled Thor would probably try to befriend him, younger Thor......
@AnabelRose-g5v
@AnabelRose-g5v 5 ай бұрын
Super man will just carry Thor to the sun and be with him there for 10 days and then Thor will die in the first two days 😂
@Teyism
@Teyism 5 ай бұрын
Yeah thor would totally allow superman to bring him to the sun
@some_shitposting_idiot3023
@some_shitposting_idiot3023 5 ай бұрын
Throwing something in the bifrost isn't a feat. Its logical to assume that all objects are moving at a base speed in the bifrost and throwing something would mean its really only moving as fast as it would outside the bifrost.
@theretroshogun2961
@theretroshogun2961 5 ай бұрын
I agree
@justinsarfo829
@justinsarfo829 5 ай бұрын
It works like a tractor beam, so it would be a good speed feat for loki and Hela.
@valou-scaling
@valou-scaling 5 ай бұрын
Fr, just like fighting in a car or a plane. Throwing something while being in a vehicle doesn’t mean your throwing or movement speed equals the vehicle’s speed
@jeremymorris345
@jeremymorris345 5 ай бұрын
No, the Bifrost is a tractor beam, meaning any item throw inside it has to be moving faster then the pull of the beam or else it would just stay in place. It also doesn't matter as we see Thor and Captain Marvel while fighting statue the Bifrost in What If which would scale to there main versions as What If is just a branch on the main MCU.
@Spmnls
@Spmnls 5 ай бұрын
@@valou-scaling counter argument is that unlike a car the Bifrost works like a tractor beam. its pulling them at those speeds. Hela and Loki must have thrown the knife faster than the pull itself, other wise it would've stood in place
@losojacobs5164
@losojacobs5164 5 ай бұрын
Dceu Superman would win with low def
@jondiaz3329
@jondiaz3329 5 ай бұрын
Also, I'll make a prediction based on an old Marvel/DC comic cross over where 2 diff versions of the characters fought each other (I'm just saying my idea is not original here not that I want to judge them by this comic instead of the movies). So, imo, Superman wins because Superman is worthy and he can lift the hammer. So while Thor's hammer just plows through anyone he throws it at for dmg, Superman just catches it not realizing it's requirements. Effectively Thor's weapon is removed from the fight.
@deity2507
@deity2507 5 ай бұрын
Supes takes all except exp, battle iq and weapons
@ChamupaJayasinghe
@ChamupaJayasinghe 5 ай бұрын
No😂
@master2uall88
@master2uall88 5 ай бұрын
It would be Superman hands down he's Invincible where we've seen Thor get beat up multiple times and literally the only weakness that Superman has is Kryptonite so as long as there's no Kryptonite he is an invincible God and Thor is tier 2 where Superman is tier one but I still love both of them and forever Henry Cavill you'll always be my favorite Superman and I never liked Batman until actually seeing Ben Affleck play Batman and I'm really pissed that we never got to see a solo Ben Affleck Batman
@luukzilla1519
@luukzilla1519 5 ай бұрын
Who would win Doom Slayer or Samus Aran? (DOOM vs Metroid)
@luukzilla1519
@luukzilla1519 5 ай бұрын
I know the Doom Slayer doesn't fight with humans but let's say in this scenario he has no choice
@pedro_6120
@pedro_6120 5 ай бұрын
It actually closer than you'd think since both have uni+ stats with the doomslayer killing gods and dark samus surviving and explosion capable of destroying a pocket universe infinite in size while in a weakened state. It's an interesting match up to be honest.
@luukzilla1519
@luukzilla1519 5 ай бұрын
@@pedro_6120 True, this is definitely more fair than Slayer vs Master Chief
@pedro_6120
@pedro_6120 5 ай бұрын
@@luukzilla1519 yeah and also samus does have mftl speed since she scales to ridley who scales to her own ship that can travel to one galaxy to another in less than a day. But I don't really know the doom slayer's speed so I really can't say who is faster. But yeah, it's a fun match up, much better than the doom slayer vs master chief.
@luukzilla1519
@luukzilla1519 5 ай бұрын
@@pedro_6120 I'm pretty sure Samus is faster but Slayer is probably more durable
@wem_iii
@wem_iii 5 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe Gorr was stronger than Hela
@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
I mean, he WAS fighting 3 beings stronger than IW Stormbreaker Thor.
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
No one buys that shit
@TheHulkfan
@TheHulkfan 5 ай бұрын
Where exactly did Thor beat Hulk? Last time I've checked, Hulk was still standing. It would be more fair to say "He made the Grandmaster fear that Thor could beat him". Then again, if the Grandmaster feared for Hulk to be defeated, or utterly killed, he wouldn't let Thor be near him.
@joseluis5055
@joseluis5055 5 ай бұрын
Let's be honest, Thor gave Hulk one hell of a punch. And that's when he literally just got his new power. A few more punches and Hulk would've been down
@TheHulkfan
@TheHulkfan 5 ай бұрын
@@joseluis5055 Considering what happens after it in Infinity War, I doubt it. Thor was stomped offscreen by Thanos, while Hulk at least put up a bit of a fight. That said, though, I think nowadays, MCU speaking, Thor has indeed appeared to be more powerful than nerd-Hulk.
@ghosti79
@ghosti79 5 ай бұрын
It depends. If they're fighting during the day time and it's sunny then Superman wins. If they're fighting in deep space with no sun or a super cloudy day then maybe Thor wins.
@Geralddd966
@Geralddd966 5 ай бұрын
Thats not how kryptonians work...otherwise superman would be powerless at night which is not the case at all....Thor dies
@johndzienius2866
@johndzienius2866 4 ай бұрын
Ummm Superman has weakness to magic? Lol
@laap007l8
@laap007l8 5 ай бұрын
So..thor maybe slower but has combat speed enough to atleast fight superman. He has the magic advantage as well. Stormbreaker is a pretty big win con for thor. If diana with her sword of athena can dismember doomsday who was stronger than superman back in bvs then stormbreaker will insta end superman IF thor lands a hit like chuck said.
@generalshepherd2845
@generalshepherd2845 5 ай бұрын
Do you think Cap is more skilled than Thor at using his hammer?
@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499
@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 5 ай бұрын
More skilled than his fat version, any other version of thor is more skilled than worthy cap
@crossfire6558
@crossfire6558 5 ай бұрын
At using the hammer specifically, I don't think so, but Cap does seem smarter at using it's perks than Thor. But that hammer is still best in Thor's hands
@aztecgoji
@aztecgoji 4 ай бұрын
So basically Thor wins unless you use a scrapped piece of story board that isnt canon to the films or universe since it was never officially used
@silvertongue.242_99
@silvertongue.242_99 5 ай бұрын
Superman just better, speed/reflexes better abilities and planetary strength and durability. It's a good match up but supes takes this. Great video ❤
@Chuck
@Chuck 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ToxicJay854
@ToxicJay854 5 ай бұрын
Can you please make a Loki video
@dobi287
@dobi287 5 ай бұрын
The hela bifrost statements/reasoning is illogical and frankly pretty dumb. Think of it this way you can run and play catch in a train even a bullet train or a plain. Does that mean you're faster than the vehicle? Obviously not, you're inside it and it is moving you along and you're not just moving on your own
@LoneWolf-el5oy
@LoneWolf-el5oy 5 ай бұрын
I don't agree with this scaling you scaled both characters too high
@jamboodamytey3880
@jamboodamytey3880 5 ай бұрын
In the movies Thor currently wins in the comics Supes does and has done
@tekservices8699
@tekservices8699 5 ай бұрын
It would depend on what Thor you’re talking about. Mcu Thor is lame and Superman would win in a second
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505
@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505 3 ай бұрын
But i give it to Mcu thor medium to high difficulty and doctor strange has moved in the dark dimensiona which is above time and space
@terrancehowell7888
@terrancehowell7888 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I would give the slight edge to Supes too fast can grow in strength with sun exposure and really just seems to amped after being resurrected by the mother box plus even with Thor's skills Superman handles general zod and several other more skilled kryptonians as well as stomps WW who is just as old as Thor and battle tested this same Wonder woman beat Aries and Superman just one shots her damn near unconscious and if you pay attention supes never really takes damage outside of kryptonite and nuclear radiation which he was already still suffering kryptonite affects when hit head on with that nuke just me though
@redhood2574
@redhood2574 5 ай бұрын
Oh, come on why not the comic versions?
@Kaos__
@Kaos__ 5 ай бұрын
We need captain marvel (mcu) vs Superman(dceu) next
@jamesseavy2414
@jamesseavy2414 5 ай бұрын
I like the video but you take too many statements from visual effects artist. They have no barring on anything in the movie, even with the visual effects they are just doing what they are told. They make it look a certain way but they dont deside what is and isnt light lmao
@Teekayhuey_TK
@Teekayhuey_TK 5 ай бұрын
3:32 That is not how speed works. When you are on a car and you throw a stone what ever speed your traveling the stone you throw will have that initial speed and what ever natural speed you usually throw things. When Hella is on the bifrost she is moving at speeds higher than light speed. What ever that speed is when she throws her blades it increases by her natural throw speed.
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