The Strongest Goku You've NEVER Heard Of!

[@Chuck]

Huge thanks to Zenkai for helping out with this video and huge thanks to everyone who donated for this video! I hope that you guys enjoyed the video! Here's Zenkai's twitter, so be sure to drop him a follow! twitter.com/Zen_b12

[@reptilian_geneticist]

how is capsule corp Goku the same Goku from the original 13 movies????? Where was this ever stated???

[@Chuck]

@@reptilian_geneticist He's encountered and recognized a lot of Movie villains.

[@xHollow.]

enjoyed it fully ty Chuck senpai😳🙏

[@4getmenot182]

Can he beat saber though?

[@BaDZ_]

@@Chuck Hey Chuck.. Nice content as always.. 1st Xeno Goku now CC Goku next Jump Force Goku?? and how powerful he is??

[@SernX982]

everybody talking about Goku from Xenoverse but nobody is gonna mention the Xenoverse MC who went from being Raditz level to fighting beerus and whis in a really short time

[@doohickeyhandy758]

Wasn't raditz amped from the villainous boost? Maybe that's just a XV2 thing, but also, it isn't even just Beerus. XV char could keep up with Xeno Beerus-

[@MrYoyoflat]

@@doohickeyhandy758 in fact, the CaC bodies everybody 💀 In xeno 2, whis even admits to being wounded in training by the CaC

[@no1cratee49]

Really hit the grind

[@08tony]

Trunks did wish for a strong warrior

[@TwighlightPrince1]

This implies that if XV1 and XV2’s time patrollers had more stories about them, they’d actively be unstoppable. They were able to, in a week max, go from Raditz level (aka slightly above pre-Saiyan Saga Goku and Piccolo) to LITERALLY THROWING HANDS WITH SOMEONE THAT COULD ERASE ALL OF EXISTENCE. Imagine if they got 10 years in a Hyperbolic Time Chamber like Freeza did.

[@fourthhorsemendeath218]

Normal DB/ DBZ/DBS: Power scaling to a gradual degree Xenoverse/ Heroes: ...We don't do that here

[@ProjektTaku]

idk why XV and heroes make power scaling so crazy.

[@camrong5680]

@@ProjektTaku its fun. because we are never going to see golden transform cooler and frieza fighting ssj3 rose masked goku black ANYWHERE else its just fun lol

[@LoraLoibu]

*This is called Power Cliffing.*

[@janusgreenway6934]

Power scaling is somehow worse than Super 💀

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Pretty much.

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

Something people always forget is Xeno Goku has a Tiny sprinkle of God Ki on top of his transformations (and by proxy so would Xeno Vegito/Gogeta), he went SSG at one point but unlike Super/CC Goku he didn't absorb it into his Base Form only retaining that "once godly status" if you will when transforming. This might be why he and CC Goku could combine their energies as well have it turn out so potent

[@dinogt8477]

cow

[@SuperBlueGamer9000]

And now he has ss4 limit breaker which is basically the combination of ssg and ss4 or the result of being given god ki by by other individuals either way limit breaker is basically ssgss4 and since vegeta has it as well anyways that means they are technically amped up to the max and they may get even stronger than that and don't get me started on broly and god broly exist in heroes too I may add

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

@@SuperBlueGamer9000 yeah OG Broly had ridiculous scaling even before Heroes, and don't forget he gets his own Legendary Ssj4 form that's stronger than the regular one. At some point they're probably gonna throw his God Form on top of his Masked Dark Dragon Ball LSSJ4 *& Knuckles* Form, because hey he needs More boosts...

[@HentaiGod-sama]

@@SuperBlueGamer9000 that is actually false, it has already been stated that Ssj4LB doesnt have god ki.

[@brendobrando3277]

@@HentaiGod-sama where was that said? From what I remember in the manga, God ki was given to ssj4 limit breaker Goku and vegeta by cc Goku and vegeta

[@georgehouliaras7239]

That strange super saiyan blue universe tree power he got that one time to fight Fu was unreal. I bet it's stronger than even MUI with the Susanoo.

[@static_resident_sleeper]

to put it in a way, that form is considered boundless in terms of power. susanoo ui is nowhere near it

[@cinnamonpancakes54]

Dude manga Goku is nowhere near Base CC Goku at the start of the Heroes anime , CC Goku is multiversal at the very minimum , while Manga Goku is galaxy to universe lvl only

[@static_resident_sleeper]

@@cinnamonpancakes54 to which I agree unless you're talking to OP

[@mukuroikusaba7347]

@@cinnamonpancakes54 manga goku galaxy? are you braindead? this isnt the Cell saga

[@B3an01]

@@cinnamonpancakes54 didnt the goku and beerus almost destroying the universe if they didnt properly control their power also happen in the manga?

[@pounderpolizzo7269]

So technically our characters in the xenoverse games are op af?

[@bladeotite8522]

Correct so if we played our characters in the main timeline we'd be unstoppable

[@songokucarot1668]

Yeah time patrollers are Just that strong

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

Yes, especially in the timelines where if you manage certain conditions while fighting FP Demigra (in XV1) and FP Mira (in XV2) you can defeat them Without Goku even appearing to help...

[@AzaiaMonota]

I mean you can 1 shot Golden Great Ape Baby in the story mode in XV2 so yes op af

[@kaijazakora6644]

@@AzaiaMonota You can even fight Beerus not saying you above him, but you can fight him

[@amuroray9115]

I don’t know why but I always enjoy how you explain powerscaling. Some channels use too much headcanon. Others are hard to hear. But your delivery of information is just right.

[@Chuck]

Thanks, that means a lot!

[@UbejdLutfu]

I have an answer for you ​@@Chuckit's Goku infinity

[@VoidTempestEditz]

Same

[@wesleykim6523]

Did not think we’d get more Heroes scaling, but Chuck keeps on giving us that good sh!t!

[@michaelgarcia5680]

Can’t wait to see you cover more powerful versions of different characters Chuck.

[@jacobbhattacharjee2820]

Most of the other fandoms don't even know there are multiple version of Goku While they only knows about the dbs canon Goku

[@InfamousMastery]

need a comp goku video

[@HomellAlcautor]

I always have him in the back of my head, but always decide not to bring him up. 😂

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

@@HomellAlcautor 😂

[@hush-ik9mc]

Bruh if you use these versions in arguments, you're just a pussy as you already agree that goku is weak asf without yourselves making him strong

[@soulbreaker625]

Now we have multiple gokus to contesr multiple supermen lmao since they LOVE to bring that shit up

[@mRibbons]

I like how despite the vast expanding, unknown, and potentially infinite space of our universe... Toriyama decided, Nah... we need multiple parallel universes to properly express the scale of Goku's power.

[@eobardthawn6903]

This ain't Canon though. And that's DC powerscaling in a nutshell imo.

[@thefnfrobloxGDlover]

@@eobardthawn6903 What do you mean it’s DC powers scaling?

[@PegasusTenma1]

@@eobardthawn6903 that’s just what happens when your characters become too strong for your own cosmology. DC, Dragon Ball, Marvel all have this problem

[@eobardthawn6903]

@@PegasusTenma1 Yeah, I definitely agree. I prefer Dragon Balls powerlevel to be infinite( potential, not power) but Goku does have some infinite feats. And DC has this problem the worst imo. Superman one shotted the World Forger, the dude creates both infinite positive and negative multiverses, and Supes just one shots him. People that powerful shouldn't be one shotted imo.

[@eobardthawn6903]

@@thefnfrobloxGDlover DC has ludicrous powerscaling. Shazam, Wonder Woman, Supes, Flash, all have infinite feats. Yet Supes still can lose to normal humans just because of kryptonite. My point being: imo DC does it the worst out of Dragon Ball, Marvel, and DC, and I'm a major DC fan, I don't really like Marvel.

[@Bananica-or8jy]

these guys gonna get so powerful that they are gonna appear in our universe💀

[@jackypoop7050]

Drip goku

[@Sebastian-zj6mq]

@Steven Rios p

[@kaijazakora6644]

@Steven Rios Its the HEY its me Goku🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PerSon-xg3zr]

If they appear in our universe then they would be boundless+ as fictional characters literally can't hurt them at all just like how they cannot hurt writers(unless papercut).

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

@@PerSon-xg3zr what power would make these beings real tho? How tf Is there a being in this existence to make that happen

[@Jociaoftrades]

With this logic, Ace the Xenoverse 1 CAC, and The Xenoverse 2 CAC I don’t remember their name, are insane. Just outright insane when it comes to power scaling. I do remember during missions dealing with the TOP SKoT was worried about pissing off Xeno. So he still can do stuff to do them I believe.

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

For real, they have the potential to solo the final bosses without Goku ever needing to appear.

[@Jociaoftrades]

@@-libertyprimev1-902 it is true. I’m not sure how strong Ace is, but he did defeat transformed Demgra. While the future warrior 2 which is named Mee, beats Ace and shows to be far stronger. While both are able to learn moves easily.

[@sseempire8705]

In Dbza Mr Popo is stated to be the teams cac from Xenoverse 2 after the events of that story. That means dbza solos most of fiction lol

[@GrokeytheHunter]

@@-libertyprimev1-902 And don't forget, the sort of "true final boss" in Fu's missions being UI goku himself, who you stalemate and bring back down to base form

[@Toddles]

scp 3812 casually just transcending goku effortlessly just by existing scp 682 violating goku scralett king just existing destroying goku

[@chrisortiz432]

I like how Dragon Balls heroes brings the characters into some Marvel comics levels of op

[@ProjektTaku]

not even marvel, we're getting to dc levels.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

@@ProjektTaku Marvel still us higher scaling

[@ProjektTaku]

@@michaelgarcia5680 not really tho.

[@supermanprime9596]

@@ProjektTaku It does.

[@ConsciousApostle999]

@@michaelgarcia5680It's not at all, read future state, read Metal pt 1, 2, and 3, read crisis on infinite earths, etc...

[@yokuutsu9097]

Xeno Goku is underrated. The shit that goes on in Heroes is insane.

[@-ThatOneKid-VR]

i think xeno goku is crazy overrated, whenever powerscaling is involved and goku loses, people say : "But xeno goku slaps" like he aint even canon yet i always see comments about him

[@MrJokerSenpai]

@@-ThatOneKid-VR Canon is just the "main story's universe", Toriyama said that the GT and the other continuities are just alternate universes, so they all exist somewhere, the argument they aren't canon doesn't really work.

[@-ThatOneKid-VR]

@@MrJokerSenpai yeah i understand that, but it doesnt really matter logically until tori makes a statement about it. Like xeno goku does not exist (yet) in main timeline, so we would have to wait for tori to say something about it. Im just sauing that its dumb a character that was never the point of the show ( or even existed in the show for that matter) was so overused and overrated.

[@-ThatOneKid-VR]

@@MrJokerSenpai also, even in the chance they do actually exist there would be no reason for them to be introduced

[@myusername3689]

@@-ThatOneKid-VR DC doesn’t even have a canon at all and the same goes for Marvel so Dragon Ball having these is just normal in comparison. The Fate NasuVerse which is another OP verse is…….. yeah I’m not going into that. Simply put, most of the Fate stuff is canon which complicates the verse by a ton.

[@anhthai7005]

Dude you have no idea how long I’ve waited for someone to scale him. Like Jesus idk how no one approached scaling like you did until now

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

Because most people would just downplay him to like galaxy level or something so they can say shitama stomps

[@anhthai7005]

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 right so can we not turn this into a saitama vs goku debate? Seriously the amount of cancer in those types comment section blocks out any form of interesting topics and conversation in favor of “Goku solos” and “Saitama solos” or both sides regurgitating the same points over and over again. Also idk anyone who downplays cc goku to galaxy ever, considering his reputation as goku but stronger, their more likely to wank him to boundless with that beats’s world being real thing

[@zombieash]

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Exactly I believe this Goku beats a large chunk of anime (not all) People just downplay CC goku and I don't know why.

[@wukongisas9564]

There's also some pretty wild way's to scale this Goku, since just the base U7 alone contains thing's such as Many Worlds Interpretation (stated on the official DB website by professor futaname and heavily implied by Trunks) which can be linked to a type 3 Multiverse (for people who don't know how insane that is, a type 3 Multiverse has thing's like hilbert space which is infinite dimensional), and that's just U7 alone, not even the larger Infinite timelines or histories (funny enough history is stated in XV to have Infinite timelines and there are Infinite histories) or even Beat's world. And characters who are fodder to CC Goku like Demigra or Chamel can casually destroy these constructs (like bro there's even a statement about Chamel where it's stated he's destroying's Beat's world with his presence alone 😭), so yeah they're pretty broken. Good video btw 👍

[@BlackJack32.]

if it were to be truly infinite in dimensional then it be high hyper

[@candyvegitto1310]

U7 macrocosm can be capped at outer.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

@@candyvegitto1310 no

[@candyvegitto1310]

@@michaelgarcia5680 the living world according to the dragon ball z screenwriter has an infinite hierarchy of dimensions. He pretty explained that each level is transcendent over the lower one. This makes Buuhan High hyperversal.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

@@candyvegitto1310 let me guess was this Screenwriter named Koyama?

[@HelenaSan425]

Zeno Goku is GOATED 🔥🔥🔥

[@tenkskun]

Xeno

[@HelenaSan425]

@@tenkskun sorry lol

[@JDxY-2]

@@HelenaSan425 he’s honestly better than Cc Goku IMO

[@rafi_sensei5421]

CC Goku ,Xeno Goku is the one that goes ssj4

[@givenofuks222]

@@JDxY-2 this is about cc Goku 🗿

[@theboijj849]

The Dragon Ball Macrocosm is at least 5-6D Considering the afterlife is stated to Transcend the living realm which is most likely at least 4D. Pretty crazy so that just makes ssg goku feat even more crazier and now we’re getting into heroes which is when it gets absurd.

[@kaijazakora6644]

So its not 3d anymore? so would that mean Goku is not mid universal?

[@theboijj849]

@@kaijazakora6644 I’m almost certain and outside of heaven, we still have North, West, South and East Quadrant, which are universe size bodies, and other things like the supreme kai’s realm. just a solar system alone in dragon ball is described to be a galactic nebula, which is an galaxy. not only that but in numerous guides they describe things as infinite.

[@theboijj849]

@@kaijazakora6644 also there are different rooms of spirit & times in the living universe which are alternate dimensions entirely where time flows differently

[@MyLife-og2kr]

That's just the Canon, the Xenoverse is beyond that considering there's universes without space and time.

[@Flick2417]

@@kaijazakora6644 no Goku is arguably low complex multiversal 😭 cuz afterlife is 5d realm

[@lastdeat3286]

But can he beat Goku though

[@ryanbenedict2754]

I think Goku can beat Goku, just a feeling tho

[@reversenoobz1]

@@ryanbenedict2754 Wrong, Glku would clap Goku.

[@adolfhamster]

@@reversenoobz1 AYO

[@reversenoobz1]

@@adolfhamster Not like that! 😠

[@adolfhamster]

@@reversenoobz1 AYO YO ASS GAY

[@stillnousername9796]

Funny how Xeno Goku has reached a point where literally no fanfic version of Goku comes close to him. They literally all cap out at like 3D. Even Ultra Vegito needs shit to even travel through time. Official Toei somehow OUTDID the fans in making Goku ridiculous.

[@XeroNegsYou]

I mean, the Macrocosm is at least 4D and can be made 5D with Koyama Statements. Living World is Infinite 3D (Stated Infinite In Daizenshuu 4) Heaven Is 4D (Stated In Daizenshuu 3 To Be Dimensionally Transcendent, Goku In Z also kind of implies that there is no time in Afterlife) Hell was stated 4D and Infinite by Koyama (Making The Afterlife 5D as it contains an Infinite 4D Realm) Deadzone is 4D (Referred to as Hyperspace in Daizenshuu 6) Room of Spirit and Time is 4D (Kais say there are Temporal Dimensions) Kaioshin Realm is 5D+ (Koyama Refers To It As "The World Above 5D") Zamasu fusing with the Macrocosm would mean he is fusing with the Space Time and going on to fuse with 12 of these Space Times would make him at least 4D, up to 5D+, and Jiren surpasses Infinite Zamasu. Also, Goku broke through Hit's Time Skip and Elder Kai said that he was forcing himself into the future, which Goku confirmed.

[@7reasons617]

@@XeroNegsYouTHANK YOU

[@Flick2417]

@@XeroNegsYou the macrocasm is 5d without koyama even diazenshuu confirms it so yes dbs Goku is 5d low complex multi

[@jpraise6771]

Thank you for bringing light to this Chuck. I remember watching super heroes and thinking when it came to scaling these guys were busted😂🙏

[@ryanbenedict2754]

Exactly, CC Goku literally beat Fu who is able to beat both Xeno SSJ4 Limit breaker and CC SSJB Evolution Gogeta all by himself and he is fighting toe to toe with Aeos who is able to erase all the timelines at ONCE!

[@detroitmade6]

He haxed them the same thing he did in Xenoverse

[@FBI049]

Scarlet king negssss!

[@ryanbenedict2754]

@@FBI049 Sun Wukong negs with monke

[@RFG910]

@@FBI049 arale negs

[@SilverbackJellybottom]

​@@FBI049Mr satan extreme negs entire verse

[@thatguy779]

In the same vein as calcing this version of Goku, I’m personally curious about how powerful the Goku and Vegeta from the ‘Legend: a Dragonball Tale’ fan film would be in comparison to their more official counterparts.

[@Goku-fn3qd]

Probably a lot wearier as legend seems to be a bit more grounded than the source material

[@killerdrone1544]

This is the best video on dbh i ever saw giving detailed info and kept up with the recent meta

[@Deforestater]

Nice! Would like to see a Master Chief video.

[@Chuck]

You got it!

[@therealsongoku4312]

Dragon ball heroes is super crazy. The demon gods are especially broken since some of them can make their own universes from distorted realities, revive from the concept of hate alone, and even fight after death with clones.

[@herrscherofisaf5592]

Interesting thing i noticed in 9:29 - i think Hearts uses Lags glass structure mixed with his gravity powers to increase its mass making omen goku struggle rather then her own ability to do that. i believe this is more of the case since the same rough black "stress lines/distorted bold lines" that surround Jiren and Evo Vegeta, are present to show Hearts ability is in effect (on them)

[@Chuck]

Oh yeah you right.

[@cudo8248]

This series is gonna end with goku popping out of the screen saying "goodbye now im boundless and i do infact solo fiction"

[@AlmightyDivine2925]

Keep dreaming lol

[@KaiKrimson56]

I once joked with a friend one day, Dragon Ball is gonna have a character so OP, they will come into real life and destroy everything. Apparently, Heroes already has characters that could do that.

[@isaac_drakone7714]

Holy fk, what a beast CC goku, he should be brought up more often in vs battles

[@HentaiGod-sama]

He isnt for a reason😅

[@isaac_drakone7714]

@@GodslayerSeiya you should debate him about it

[@isaac_drakone7714]

@@GodslayerSeiya so are you taking about canon Zeno? Or Zeno from heroes? Cause there’s a difference I imagine

[@isaac_drakone7714]

@@GodslayerSeiya but like what about the different variations of Zeno through the timeline, so like how is that the same Zeno? If it’s different from the main timeline, as seen in the goku black arc

[@isaac_drakone7714]

@@GodslayerSeiya oh okay

[@dsm2417]

Definetly one of the strongest Gokus ever existed

[@dsm2417]

@Josh nop

[@Austinfdp]

@Josh no goku solos

[@nuclearwaste2062]

@@jaroguijk naw, jump force goku is stronger, as is God fusion goku

[@Bts.capcutpro]

​@@nuclearwaste2062lmao god fusion goku is a 5d foddee with no feats

[@nuclearwaste2062]

@@Bts.capcutpro he fused with a real life audience member. And in the last production his battle with frieza shook the real life theater. and frieza threatened to destroy the real life audience.

[@NonAryanDuck]

Chuck blessing us with these consistent uploads 😭😭😭

[@Anomalous1879]

Scaling be mad crazy, good work putting it all together

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

Oh something else ridiculous, XV Goku's Instant Transmission can warp to the Crack in Time and even Demigra finds this shocking... Implying Xeno Goku appearing during time disturbances in all his scenes might not even be with the help of the time patrollers but off his own Time-Space transcending Instant Transmission, scaling again off Fu who's Prison Planet which could block it from allowing them to leave the planet!

[@kaijazakora6644]

This is really insane

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

Wtf

[@saynboi6985]

Not surprising since xeno goku is omnificent and can go into other shonen. Thats how xeno lufffy is created

[@Tumblebrine]

Now I need to know how strong The Grand Priest is in SDBH, assuming he’s still the strongest fighter 💀

[@Clipy-qy1hk]

Bro facts

[@zebkai2890]

He is. In a guide it's stated he's the strongest being in all the universes

[@kaijazakora6644]

@@Clipy-qy1hk What about Lord Zeno?

[@pillow1557]

@@kaijazakora6644 That little bitch is weak asf,It's just he can erase,no fighting,Anyone can speed blitz that child

[@zebkai2890]

@Kaija Zakora As I said before GP is stated to be the strongest being in all the universes and he himself has stated zeno is stronger than him

[@Cyberdemon11120]

Safe to say CC Goku will eventually solo all of fiction at some point, and will eventually even be able to actually kill his original author Toriyama in Real Life. We may, one day, wake up to find Toriyama was found dead in his house at the foot of his work station, with the last panel he ever draws being of CC Goku throwing a punch in the direction of the reader.

[@Snaxzu]

well…

[@Unknownling-zt6gk]

Guess he rlly did huh

[@N_DAnimationEnthusiast]

Finally! We have an updated scaling for Heroes/Xeno and Cc Goku!

[@zebkai2890]

Great vid! Really enjoyed and glad I could help!

[@Chuck]

Thanks again!

[@jouta4999]

cc goku wild, always had some godly drip imo

[@ProjektTaku]

lets be real, xeno goku got that time patrol drip.

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

@@ProjektTaku Xeno Goku with the Red Trench Coat just always holding the matching Power Pole everywhere he goes is such a power move... Literally and figuratively.

[@ProjektTaku]

@@-libertyprimev1-902 yup. Probably the most unique goku costume I've even seen. Also love his personality. He's goofy and childish outside of battle but when on a mission he's dead serious and doesn't waste time.

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

@@ProjektTaku also the fact Xeno Goku and Vegeta aren't super against fusing, like they see someone threatening infinite timelines and Gogeta's already charging an attack.

[@ProjektTaku]

@@-libertyprimev1-902 legit best bromance, they have banter but can work great together in battle.

[@jjperaza3623]

The other day I saw a CC Goku vs Manga Shinra (Fire Force) in which Shinra won..... Bro I'm fucking dead 💀💀💀

[@wilburdutoit9573]

That's just people who ignore xenoverse characters

[@abdimohamedali1090]

Shinra in the manga is outer or something he has immeasurable speed i think thats why

[@jjperaza3623]

@@abdimohamedali1090 But is it immeasurable inside the Fireforce Universe or just immeasurable in general?🤔🤔🤔

[@bailadenis6245]

Shinra Banshoman has a degree of reality warping, he is not outer or anything of the sort. He may be universal tho.

[@jachuwah]

@@jjperaza3623 immeasurable in general. Manga Shinra is essentially just the creator.

[@deltalord6969]

You should definitely look into jump force goku cause i think hes actually the strongest version of goku being scaled to boundless as he sees outversal beings as fiction and all of the other crazy af scaling/statements he has. Dude could really use the exposure too.

[@wiseass7245]

Sometimes the old days seem so great to look back on, but we the content consumers really have no idea what happens behind the scenes. I respect the past when Seth and chuck had their duo, but the present is fine just the way it is. My only wish we had less fans trying to be you guys and more people learning from you to better themselves.

[@dariusandreicostache6108]

Well said.

[@FertonFletcher]

Excited to watch this, Chuck.

[@344hatch]

great vid!!! i love some good ol' Dragonball scaling

[@JNamikaze98]

Bro i swear i didn't even know half these characters existed and were this broken. This version of dragonball is wild

[@uideathgod]

I wouldn't be surprised to see goku being boundless in sbdh

[@AlmightyDivine2925]

sbdh ended and Goku isnt boundless

[@uideathgod]

@AlmightyDivine2925 and i said i wouldnt be surprised if he was, not that he was gonna be💀

[@AlmightyDivine2925]

@@uideathgod No way you responded so fast 😭

[@uideathgod]

@@AlmightyDivine2925 it was like 12 minutes after you commented i wasnt doing anything and i dont know why you replied in the first place. the comment is so old and i dont care if goku actually is boundless so idk why you thought my world would stop spinning or something just because he isnt boundless lol

[@PerSon-xg3zr]

Some calculations put him at a similar level to Gilgamesh and Cosmic Armour Superman which is really high outerversal.

[@idkwhattocallmyself7211]

How do you get to high outer from calcs

[@DarkKnight-wz6yu]

Also most of cosmic armor superman's feats are wank or even inaccurate.

[@ProjektTaku]

@@DarkKnight-wz6yu yup.

[@danchiziofficial2159]

@@DarkKnight-wz6yu not true

[@DarkKnight-wz6yu]

@@danchiziofficial2159 it depends on the way you scale him, like if you truly believe that he beyond the dc multiverse, but the anti monitor he was supposed to defeat was way stronger than him and he barely could fight back.

[@LeroyJerez]

Thanks for the video. It reminded me that in Heroes, just like in the original, Goku keeps getting stronger. And his speed against Aeos was unbelievable, and my eyes couldn't have been wider in that scene.

[@HomellAlcautor]

I thought CC Goku was just High-Complex Multiversal. But now, I think he may be Low Outerversal.

[@GoProGamer447]

Same with this feats and statements I just saw I too think he may be in the outerversal range of powers depending on how you take some of the statements.

[@HomellAlcautor]

@@GoProGamer447 Yeah. I don't tend to High-Ball Goku, mainly because Goku gets a ton of hate, I tend to Low-Ball some of his feats to pretty much prove that man is still absurdly powerful. But with CC Goku, going off the statements, even if he isn't Outerversal, he's really damn close to it.

[@elmjojokes7782]

Pretty sure there are statements out there that state CC Goku is boundless

[@FZresetYT]

Xeno goku is also hyperversal/low outerversal

[@FZresetYT]

@@HomellAlcautor i don't really care about the hate, im just scale a character as he's scaled if they don't like it they can cry

[@jimishazamfusioncool3787]

FINALLY SOMEONE SCALES HIM THANK U Chuck

[@onthehunt2297]

Great job chuck I was expecting xeno Goku to be complex multiversal or outerversal with the whole dimension thing

[@Ninj7]

I hope Heroes gets a physical release sometime, whether it ever gets a dub or not, I just want to own it haha.

[@zebkai2890]

Have you heard of World Mission?

[@Ninj7]

@zebkai2890 I have, I plan on getting it as I also want to have a complete DB game collection and even try to complete all of them.

[@kaistemino]

Trash

[@Ninj7]

@@kaistemino I don't care, it's dragon ball.

[@kaistemino]

@@Ninj7 Still...Trash.. 💀

[@whitequeen8282]

i cant handle this much information lmao. great video keep it up

[@pantheon8728]

Great vid Chuck!!

[@Chuck]

Thanks 👍

[@FBI049]

So basically my xenoverse character is powerful af

[@pookiepats]

Your video game character is powerful

[@Ju4nJX25]

Finally, a rival to Archie Sonic in terms of broken characters out of canon

[@HyperSonicXtreme]

Still loses to Archie Super Sonic, but still the strongest Goku.

[@theuntouchableking6124]

@@HyperSonicXtremethis Goku will run Archie Super sonic money. He’s strong enough to fight Archie sonic

[@christopherb.5797]

@@theuntouchableking6124 Says the guy with a DBZ profile lolol

[@theuntouchableking6124]

@@christopherb.5797 dbz profile pic proofs nothing like I said sonic is getting a match up

[@killerdrone1544]

@@HyperSonicXtreme nah bro he would demolish archie sonic archie sonic is just low complex multiversal and cc as shown is mid to high complex

[@zenkaiforms]

For a second I thought you were about to talk about god fusion goku

[@ProjektTaku]

same.

[@lyonderurido1889]

Cool video, it was nice to finally get a small grasp on heroes level of power. Though ima leave it to the scalers to figure this out, I just want to see gogeta one shot someone again.

[@Bootleg_Sasuke]

Chuck has been on a roll! Loving these uploads!

[@Chuck]

Glad you like them!

[@4nnd711]

2:28 if history is infinitely branched, then that means dragon ball heroes/xenoverse follows the quantum multiverse interpretation of the multiverse theory, the quantum multiverse creates a new universe when a diversion in events occurs, meaning there are countless, possibly infinite universes that branch out from one universe and there existing countless universes in parallel at the same space and time as the main db timeline - in which they are fighting. Interestingly, this is the same multiverse model that genos was talking about in chapter 169, after the garou fight took place, suggesting that one punch man has a similar cosmology to dragon ball heroes, as odd as it sounds.

[@ProjektTaku]

screw cosmology, all my homies use consistency.

[@memenciorivera7371]

Lmao 🤣🤣🤣

[@yusuke9350]

Thanks for the consistency love it 🔥🐐

[@razien9941]

Awesome video as always, but isnt Goku from Jump Force the strongest Goku of all time ?

[@Dogmonke915]

i read the whole manga of this before watching but you made it seem a lot cooler than the manga

[@omegahtv6779]

Wow. Great video. You’ve earned yourself a new subscriber

[@Chuck]

Welcome aboard!

[@omegahtv6779]

@@Chuck Thank you 🙏🏿

[@sauciine]

respect the amount of research and thought you put into this, but i'ma be real with you chief, xenoverse power levels are just plain dumb

[@inactivegamer6965]

Chuck PLEASE make a video on the xv cacs! Even if it’s a gag video still would be pretty cool to see how stacked our characters can be made to be

[@jayari7674]

Do this goku vs super boi prime. I honestly have no idea who would win.

[@ProjektTaku]

boy? No. Man? Maybe.

[@Flick2417]

Superboy prime easily wins

[@ProjektTaku]

@@Flick2417 no

[@mickeelsolomon7743]

@@ProjektTaku yea the hell he does dude easily outerversal mean while CC goku is like complex to High Complex multi at best

[@ProjektTaku]

@@mickeelsolomon7743 no, cc goku is outerversal or whatever.

[@Olenderman]

I didn't understand a single thing but uuhhh, ig I now know that CC Goku is very op. Insane

[@gjergj124]

Keep up the great vids man thanks a lot for this

[@Chuck]

Thanks, will do!

[@dreamcore7]

Finally someone is not outright saying that Goku is Omnipotent.

[@Minizu4]

Goku is Omnipotent.

[@Bangster8979]

So you're saying he's very strong, and above planetary?

[@musaratjahan7954]

Are you death battle?

[@Bangster8979]

​@@musaratjahan7954That's what I imagine them saying

[@musaratjahan7954]

@@Pekara121 he's faster than an airplane too! Maybe even faster than fighter jets too but that's only with MUI!

[@ProjektTaku]

@@musaratjahan7954 I'd say he could probably survive a locomotive in super saiyan 3.

[@moffinman8862]

He could possibly knock me out ngl

[@ShaneFullerYT]

Bruh, watching this video made me remember Why i fell off of Super Dragon Ball Heroes years ago haha... W video tho. Now we gonna see abunch xeno goku debates now haha 😎

[@zebkai2890]

you should read the manga.

[@meganvinson4908]

Outstanding video clip.

[@rais6036]

Upload consistently

[@alwin7671]

Hey Chuck, how about a video explaining how dimensional scaling and tiering works? The explanations in VS Battles Wiki is quite brief and it isn't really that understandable.

[@akagurob1ack160]

Mechikabura is so broken he can already impower overpowered demon gods like fu and demigra that’s so insane

[@zebkai2890]

Fu Is stronger than Mechikabura.

[@akagurob1ack160]

@@zebkai2890 I didn’t say he was stronger than fu but mechikabura became more powerful when merged with Fu with fus powers, not mechikabura by himself

[@zebkai2890]

@@akagurob1ack160 OH, you meant Fu became stronger with mechis power? OK ok. My bad, misunderstood your comment

[@fictionschmiction4478]

Chuck, please give us more Heroes scaling. Nice video btw.

[@Chuck]

Will do!

[@GodsNut]

This finna get views

[@HelenaSan425]

This is my PFP for Christmas Chuck! ⛄🎄

[@ZelZ-.-z]

100 year timeskip my BOI. THOUSAND? SDBH? IN BASE THO? Dang despite the fact he recognized movie characters I never thought to consider he also went through the movies. How do they keep transcending dimensions? ~ I never realized that was Bardock because despite Black Warrior taking it off I never realized those were the same 2. Damn this is heat.

[@zebkai2890]

The Bardock in UGM is a singularity, his own Bardock seperate from the rest

[@ZelZ-.-z]

@@zebkai2890 Huh? Which one? Also if you're talking about the video doesn't the one that battles in SSJ3 have feats that would be higher and thus continue to push Goku's feats?

[@Davidpostingshid]

I always thought of how ridiculously powerful the Xenoverse characters were in that game when I played it.

[@carlox3002]

I see some people putting Xeno Goku and CC Goku in Outerversal/Boundless tier, I think mainly because of the "affecting the real world" feat I think, I'm not an expert in these Outerversal super ultra cool tiers that go beyond normal understanding so what are your thoughts about it?

[@Chuck]

Yeah I don't agree with that viewpoint. Just because they have dimensional transcendence doesn't mean they have dimensional conceptual transcendence to be outer.

[@hispanichipstervlogs8971]

Im so glad someones taking time to explain this bizzare universe

[@ricksene04]

i love heroes so much and the concept is really cool, i hope one day they’ll update world mission with all the new content

[@SonicKirbo]

But can he beat Xeno Goku tho?

[@kingj6061]

I enjoyed this video, but I am curious about how you discovered Goku having probability manipulation. I heard it's not an actual ability and that it's just a game mechanic. Could you explain anything more?

[@Chuck]

It's an ability some of their forms have, but there are other abilities that are shared by other characters.

[@kingj6061]

@@Chuck thanks for clarifying, now I know people are just downplaying the characters for reasons that I don’t know, another question I have do you have a clip or link to goku have this ability in the game

[@zebkai2890]

@@kingj6061 Card abilities such as freeze and switch have been shown in the manga and more so in the arcade, they're just passed by which is why the average person who follows DBH won't really notice.

[@kingj6061]

@@zebkai2890 really, I did not know that, thanks for telling me that

[@brendobrando3277]

@@kingj6061 there is also dimensional domain which passively reduces their opponent's stamina to 0 if they even try to attack, so that's another form of hax that cc Goku and co have too

[@ultrainstinctgokuhope7442]

Chuck, can you scale jumpforce goku

[@InfamousMastery]

why not comp goku

[@andjustice4all89]

I love the MK 3/ Ultimate theme in the background!

[@Fatztofits]

Thanks for adding the manga scans

[@manicrhymes9552]

Yeah the Xeno and CC versions of Goku and Vegeta are just busted.

[@Exro.]

Xeno and CC Goku basically solo a *majority* of anime and it's not even close 💀

[@mlgn0sc0p3r5]

We don’t know how strong the end of z goku is or the end of gt goku is (we’ll never know how strong end of gt goku is) but imagine how insane the end of z goku is

[@MidKnightOTC]

Would love to see this version of goku race the flash

[@EverythingPlusGaming]

My boy uploading uploading!! Much love

[@jamalkamran2907]

so when spongbob was talking about fighting that 9th dimensional monkey it really was goku he was mentioning

[@darktigersharkmax4432]

It's still how much crazy wank powerscaling nonsense super heros can get away with it's insane. I really do wonder if super goku in the manga or anime would eventually reach these crazy heights.

[@blickmaster69]

There is also God fusion goku, who is brain-dead. Yeah, it's safe to say cc goku will eventually solo fiction.

[@raihothexiv15th37]

No he won’t. Base Superman stomps him. Cry about it.

[@samuraiblack8840]

Damn chuck and Seth on the same day. I was hoping for a dante from dmc scale but still best Christmas present ever

[@MikeVenom-mini]

Really great video!

[@Chuck]

Thank you!