Sterling Shower Base Installed In Basement

[@catfish24]

I like that your using a movers blanket to keep from scratching the pan it shows me that you take pride in your work and you are a professional my friend. Great job.

[@robertroca7123]

When I set my base, I push my base and drain over the pipe and cut flush with the inside of base. I then take my dremel tool and cut the remainder of the pipe, with the cut off blade, from the inside of the pipe. I tell you it saves a lot of time. You only have to make sure the drain doesn't have a built in stop which wont allow you to push the pipe all the way thru the shower drain/box.

[@ChuckBarron]

i have been using a brass strainer with rubber gasket. A kohler strainer i believe.

[@rayminthecat]

Word up! Imagine if the drain leaked and you had to tear the job up!

[@mycats7321]

Good idea! That's how I see a lot of rough-in plumbing done-- pipe left long & then cut afterward. If the pipe has to be cut shorter prior to putting the shower pan down (if the flange has a stop for instance) I was thinking a Pringles can could be set in the pipe to help guide the shower pan down. (Assuming Pringles can is approximately the right size- I don't eat Pringles so I don't have any cans for comparison).

[@godbluffvdgg]

The inside PVC cutters are so awesome! Once you use one, you'll never do PVC without it again... The trap lead up is ALWAYS flush with the floor the pan rest on...The newer pans like Sterlings are really well built, so unless your floor is out of wack, it's best to just lay it on... I've done a couple dozen of these...One thing I learned a hard lesson yesterday; the Oatey strainers ( brass and PVC) won't mate to 2 inch copper...ONLY pvc...They just stopped making them...I tried givin the customer a waterfall...:)

[@ChuckBarron]

Oh nice. I just used a brass strainer with rubber gasket. The bomb. I forget the company of strainer though. I could not film this one.

[@Lyricyst28]

if solvent weld is the only method you like to go with I can hit them dead on the mark every time, first we self level the floor and get it perfect, the place a level across the bottom of the base and measure to the drain make up, put the level on the floor and then measure down the take off and it fits like a glove every time! 18 years in the trade here and 4 years having my own company, I set tubs and shower pans on the second floor of houses all the time flawlessly without having to cut ceilings or access, one shot one kill!

[@ChuckBarron]

I changed it up...i been using a brass shower strainer with rubber gasket....worked like gold...Thanks James.

[@Lyricyst28]

specially on a slab we just use the shower drains with the rubber gromit lock system, leave the pipe long and pour your cement bed, then inside pipe cutter from the top and plumbers gel on the gasket and slam it home

[@ChuckBarron]

yes. I do not know what i was thinking....i just used the brass shower strainers with gasket. a dream install

[@virtualtom7370]

Thanks for your video. I'm installing a Sterling shower base in a basement finish with concrete slab and this was super helpful! I like your motto...It'll work! Thanks again!

[@ChuckBarron]

use the brass shower strainer with rubber gasket.....much easier. good luck.

[@gregdawson1909]

I like a slitting saw blade on an arbor to trim pvc pipe from the end when you only really have access to the end slap it in a drill or die grinder. then cut from the inside out.

[@ChuckBarron]

Nice.

[@fred7705]

I use a 5 gal bucket for my sleeve and i always arrange to give more space to rotate my p trap and first i do not glue the vertical pipe. I remove the grate and put the shower in place to finalise the centering of my p trap . After i take the measuring tape and measure the lenght of my vertical pipe. Iremove the base put glue both on ptrap hub and grate hub. I stick the vertical pipe in the grate hub and then lower everything in position.

[@ChuckBarron]

nice. i have since changed up. I use a brass shower strainer with rubber gasket. It went really smooth.

[@dragbiker1]

Use the strainer that has the neoprene gasket that takes up the gap between the pipe and the strainer. Set the base over pipe, use inside cutter to cut pipe to height. Then lube gasket and insert. Tighten locking ring, snap in shower grid, done.

[@ChuckBarron]

I have used them. I like to torture myself with abs.

[@user-dx7ky6qc4v]

I got one tomorrow lube on the gasket that comes with that oatey 30 dollar brass strainer is the way to go so much easier.inside pvc cutter money.peace

[@Martin-pr6ps]

Hi from Ireland. You should leave the 1 and a half inch up stand pipe outside the tray then leave a narrow channel for the pipe to meet the outlet from the trap. That way you can connect the pipe to tray with a 90 bend etc drop the trap in place level it on the compound mix leave set over night and then just connect the tail that's left to the up stand pipe. I find that leaving the up stand off centre gives more room to connect using a 45 and 90 bend so it's easier to connect other then one 90 bend.

[@ChuckBarron]

Martin from Ireland In Da House!!! So many ways to take on this battle of setting a shower. One of my least fav. jobs...thanks for the good tips Marting

[@Martin-pr6ps]

No problem keep up the good work

[@ChuckBarron]

Ya Man....Plumb On!

[@johnlandy91]

Chuck using inside pipe cutter 4 PVC it attaches to the drill works like a charm

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks John.

[@johnlandy91]

And I don't use glue type strainers on slabs, I use the regular strainer with the gasket that comes with it

[@garrysmith8290]

You should try a No Caulk shower strainer and an internal cutter to cut the PVC or ABS drain riser from the inside out. Much easier way to install shower bases that you can’t get to from underneath. Enjoy your vids. Pipe on!!!

[@ChuckBarron]

I have since made life easier. That was school of hard knocks...thanks Tb.....love your name...ha

[@ranger178]

i really like this shower base installed 1st floor over a basement you can use an offset drain and miss the floor joists then just glue it up from bottom the one you slip over pipe and throw in a rubber hub around pipe would be much better in this case

[@andrewfletcher2213]

One way I’ve done it is take a level and measure from the underside of the shower pan to the face of shower strainer. It’s got to be obviously tightened in. Then when you have that measurement, subtract the engagement of the fitting. Now that you have that measurement, that is what you need to take off the riser from below the finish height of floor. Hopefully that suggestion help ya out. 🙂 Realized I wasn’t quite clear. When getting that initial measurement, you lay the level across the face of strainer and take measure from the the side of the level that’s touching the face of strainer to the raised underside of the pan, or where it will make contact with the floor. Using an internal pipe cutter on a drill helps for the cuts below finish height of concrete. Hope that helps.

[@ChuckBarron]

I just started using brass shower strainers with rubber gasket.....a game changer. no more glue type in the situation for me.

[@andrewfletcher2213]

Chuck Barron Even better solution! :) 👍

[@beckysimpson3364]

Did a great job of explaining and illustrating why this shower pan installation is tricky on a slab.

[@ChuckBarron]

learned a lesson myself....the brass strainer and rubber gasket so much easier.

[@chrisbeernaert3711]

I always like the pipe stick through till I get the Basin set and then cut it off flush with the basin

[@ChuckBarron]

nice work.

[@frankgrassi5364]

Thanks fellas, I’m gearing up to do one soon. Nice tip on the mud. Love the surf boards strapped to the top of the plumbing truck. That’s awesome!

[@Joefest99]

Hey, thanks guys! 👍

[@ChuckBarron]

Our pleasure!

[@edarozarena5209]

How ya doen, CB Plumb in your p trap/ line up, etc.... Dummy piece it, on riser/ don't glue riser, Pull out , test drive pan with drain bolted up...pull off grate Measure final piece.... Glue in final riser, final step. Thanks for the videos! Plumb On!

[@ChuckBarron]

Ya. I am using the brass kick ass strainer with rubber washer. worked like a charm.

[@kociarz46]

I did mine the first try, took my time measuring it out made a cut and perfect fit Patience is the key!!!!

[@ChuckBarron]

indeed. Thanks Sparky

[@lucianoraygoza6645]

Chuck I really enjoy your videos bro you have become one of my favorite plumbers to watch on KZbin

[@lucianoraygoza6645]

If I ever come out that way I'm going to look you up Chuck my name is Luciano I am a handyman by trade

[@ChuckBarron]

Awesome Luciano...appreciate that....Look me up dawg...We here everyday.

[@russron1]

inside diameter cutters they make them for hammer drills and impacts! Life savers for sure!

[@ChuckBarron]

got em now.

[@mr.brownplumbing]

inside pipe cutter. measure the distance from inside the drain without the cover on. you get the exact measurement. your right though bud, its easier to test, fit, and repeat, x3. I'm with you on going tile though. yea you got to grout but man so much more flare involved.

[@ChuckBarron]

Yes. I have done a couple with the brass shower strainer and rubber gasket lately. So much easier. Thanks Mr. B

[@broadybloomer2470]

Use a Casper shower drain it slides over the pipe and it’s compression so that’s easy then I use a hub saver to take it low

[@ChuckBarron]

thanks broad.

[@Sctronic209]

I use brass shower strainer pipe just slips through cut of with inside cutter.

[@ChuckBarron]

I Just used one today. It was so sweet. So much easier. thanks hvac

[@christopherwalsh2651]

Under slab shower drain.... Are use the brass shower strainer with a rubber gasket that you push down onto the drain and it has a brass not that compresses it down tight… If it weeps a little bit, the sand Is your favorite sponge

[@ChuckBarron]

ya...next time. we for surely got lucky this time...

[@rockwashburn8895]

Just set it and use an inside pie cutter bro. Just saw you used glue, this is why I like gasket or lead shower drains. Set it, cut it, seal it. I do use lead with solid core pvc, you just have to wait for it to cool before you pack the joint

[@ChuckBarron]

Great tip! I use brass shower strainers now with the gasket. works great.

[@kylemierau6367]

this trick works on 1&1/2" pipes. what I do is I get a shower drain that has a 2" fixture outlet and screw that puppy on. now cause its 2" the 1&1/2" pipe should stick right up thru the 2" outlet. with a little measuring and some common sense u cut her where u need her to be first time. then I just slam in a 2" to 1&1/2" bushing (pretty sure if u cut off an extra 1/8" to 1/4" it makes up for the little lip inside of the bushing) and gluer down. if u got a 2" pipe coming up youre shit out of luck, aint no short cuts on 2" show drains that I know of. having inside pipe cutters are key though so you don't wreck all those nice sawzall blades you got.

[@ChuckBarron]

my man kyle....thanks for your input for us plumber gods

[@kylemierau6367]

gotta remember to put a rag in the pipe though so you don't loose your next inside cutter haha

[@motobacktoconstitution4138]

Thank you for great video. You forgot to put plastic strap alound pan and studd to create parmanant level and stabling pan parmanant according to manafuctures instraction sir.

[@ChuckBarron]

I did install them. Just not on vid. apologies.

[@AceDublB]

Moto Back to constitution What specifically are you referring to in your suggestion?

[@dougdesaint9474]

Use an inside cutter

[@TS-tq7yb]

When you trim it out, use a inside cutter in the drain.

[@ChuckBarron]

roger that.

[@sunman4291]

Why are u not using inside cutter instead of pulling base back up?

[@ChuckBarron]

many ways to do this.

[@briandjordjevic9969]

Good job and I also like the shower base better

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks. I also just did another base and did not get the shots....brass shower strainer with the push in gasket worked awesome. I will never use this style again.

[@almabranch2401]

Question for all you plumbers, would it be easier to put a floor leveler on first let it set up the install the pan?

[@ChuckBarron]

Sure. We set in mud to expedite setting.

[@buckfiden3572]

Get a brass shower drain assembly from your supply house then set and inside cut it,just like a mustee . Way easier

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks TG.....I love to put myself in the torture chamber. I have had bad times with the rubber gasket....maybe I used an off brand...or supply house sold me a lesser of the caddy model....but thanks Plumb on Daddio.

[@jvoz6138]

I stub up 2 inch PVC and use a better strainer. Then inside cut the pipe flush. Then tighten the rubber ring

[@vitaliibill1713]

Thank you guys 🙏👍

[@melisaperez6281]

hi chuck !!! when my dad, cutting plastic tubes in these positions,, he,,, use a grinder with metal cut disc for wear out the plastic....please place the holder nut inside of the plastic tube and BUUMMMMM.

[@ChuckBarron]

hello, awesome stuff. Plumb On.

[@Huss-iw6ph]

Sweatin ur action the whole way. Good job. We have used a drain assembly that incorporates a donut gasket that goes around the 2” And is compressed with a nut, inside drain assembly. Works well. HD, BRASS about 20 bucks.

[@ChuckBarron]

ya....I for surely can make it easier on myself next time. thanks huss.

[@allenjames5629]

No-chaulk

[@reyduarte1665]

Only thing you got to do is first present.the panel.on the floor with extra pipe about 1 inch yes to mark on that pipe.in order to made the take out from the fitting how long it is from there pull out abouth trimming 3/4. From that pipe.considering the fitting. Very..very easy...

[@ChuckBarron]

thanks Rey...appreciate the tips. not my fav. job to do as you saw.

[@summer-np6fx]

Try inside pipe cutter. Makes jobs easier.

[@ChuckBarron]

I have one now.

[@sical4596]

Use an inside cutter, Make ur mark and then just use ur drill with an inside cutter. And I use drywall mud or spray foam under the shower pan.

[@ChuckBarron]

Sical, so many lessons here. first of all did another recently with the brass strainer and rubber gasket...the bomb. never using abs again..lesson learned. also the inside cutter on board truck now.

[@frankgrassi5364]

Back in the day, we used sand mix, and cut that pipe with and inside cutter. Careful it doesn’t drop down in the pipe 😜

[@peterboissiere9684]

I would use the strainer with the rubber bushing

[@ChuckBarron]

roger that.

[@empanada7]

Can I use silicone instead of PVC glue just in case won't fit the first time?

[@RES_Plumbing-Drain]

The way I do them is, I dont glue the piece going up from the p-trap, lay the base where I want it and level, then measure the piece of pipe from p-trap to the drain through the drain, using flash light to see the tape. In your case I would cut it shorter and use a coupling and again place it, and measure from the top through the drain and cut the pipe 1/8" shorter, apply glue, drop it in, and happy customer! Hope it makes sense, for me it works, and the easiest way I know.

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks D....we actually thought we didn't glue riser on trap....NOT! so we were on to that shit show we did..

[@christopherwalsh2651]

You have to glue the up piece to water test for inspection

[@christopherwalsh2651]

Of course you could cut it down and put a coupling and then you’ll have that glued or unglued scenario

[@christopherwalsh2651]

But yes I don’t like any under slab hook ups to be honest

[@benzun9600]

@ demitir make a video

[@louietheplumber3609]

It's not easy chuck I hate them situations too , what I try doing is measuring the fitting allowance but it's hard because most of the time were eye balling everything

[@ChuckBarron]

I had to dead eye that joker...got lucky and off to the next one

[@brezzz0077]

I use no cluke drains , it has a rubber bushing and and a brass ring . Dont know if there legal in your area, but there a piece of cake

[@ChuckBarron]

I will check them out.....networking baby for us plumbers....good stuff. thanks....OO7

[@ScarsNStripes]

Wow, impressive! That looks like a very tricky install and you guys nailed it. I have a similar project in my basement I need to do and now I'm aware of some of the pitfalls I'd be up against. If you were nearby, I'd hire YOU to do it!

[@ChuckBarron]

Use a brass shower strainer with rubber gasket....a game changer. I been using them. good luck

[@rookiemvp2008]

@@ChuckBarron I just looked those up, they seem to be much more forgiving and simple for a diy'er such as myself. Thank you for the recommendation!

[@livingstones1196]

What would have sucked is when you went to put the strainer screw on and it fell into the drain...haha. Oh well, you could always get a new screw....NO Georgy let's pull the pan up again and go after that screw.....great job guys!!

[@ChuckBarron]

using brass strainer with rubber gaskets now. many life lessons on this one. Thanks stone.

[@Trainman0401]

Curious...why not use compression gasket instead of glue for drain? Thanks

[@ChuckBarron]

I just chose this way. I think I would use gasket type next time.

[@gjp02132]

Gasket works perfect do them all the time you leave a little bit of the pipe sticking threw and cut with your sawzall all while the base is on and use your inside cutter to do the rest quick and easy

[@rehoboth_farm]

How did you pull it off after you glued it?

[@ChuckBarron]

glue was still very wet...split second decision for sure.

[@christopherwalsh2651]

I use a porter cable oscillating blade tool to cut down up pieces to toilets and shower drains... pretty precise cut... I’ve lost an inside cutter down the drain once.... once!!!! Luckily vacuum sucked it out!!!

[@ChuckBarron]

oh snap.....no bueno

[@jjjww975]

I have a concrete basement - new build - the pipe is 5.5 inches away from the load bearing wall. I bought a Sterling Right Hand Drain Shower bottom (60").... Q: Do I need to lay down the cement base that it sits in? If so - what is that called again? Also - what drain add-ons are you using to hook up the embedded shower drain pipe? Thanks!

[@pattidavis8043]

I am finishing a basement apartment.... Could I install a shower head and let it drain right onto my concrete? (Like u would find at a state park campground bath-house). I am guessing u would jackhammer to connect a drain and then slope new concrete? I would like zero entry so a wheelchair could roll right in. Is that possible inside a bath. It has concrete block walls that are painted

[@ChuckBarron]

no way. call a pro.

[@pattidavis8043]

Not understanding your comment.... do you mean yes that is possible but I need a pro to install or is that not feasible in any situation of a remodel

[@ChuckBarron]

as long as water drains off properly

[@robtheisen5844]

Could you use a brass no caulk shower drain with the rubber gasket and lock ring instead of the glue on strainer? I’ve used the no caulk drains before with pvc pipe and acrylic shower bases with good success.

[@ChuckBarron]

yes looking back I should of used that type or something similar.

[@TeslaBoy123]

Yes brass rubber is recommended for installation without underneath access

[@josecanisales3491]

Why Structolite instead of a cement mud, mortar?

[@ChuckBarron]

nicer to work with big time. try it some time...

[@dreamsifallin]

Inside pipe cutter please get one home depot

[@ChuckBarron]

Yes sir.

[@smash72cutlass30]

That finish face is taking a beating every time you lift that pan off. Little adhesive plastic does wonders. Also can’t imagine that little bit of cement doing much of anything especially for any extra support. These pans weaken over time. Hot water tends to soften the plastic and the floor will be get bouncey. Hope it’s not a big person using it.

[@ChuckBarron]

no its actually struck u lite....it really works nice.

[@elizabethbumgarner7132]

​@@ChuckBarron How long does it take to dry before you can stand on it?

[@sandstoney]

Great video and you did a good job ,Lots off sidewalk superintendents on here

[@ChuckBarron]

thanks mike....some many supervisors. I love it. lol

[@tyrannyterminator4179]

A plumber with two surfboards on the roof! Oh the confidence!

[@ChuckBarron]

Oh snap.....Surfs up?

[@sacj80]

Hmm. I can see old school work mentalities. Bending the blade for a precision cut with a sawzall. Hey it happens and did happen before 2000'. After watching this video was this on a second story or basement because it looks like they used gypcrete or self leveler for the floor. Old fashioned palm olive or a slip of the gasket but whomever stubbed out the rough in spent time with the frame etc to line that pan up and did care.

[@ChuckBarron]

yes. I actually have been using the brass shower strainer with rubber gasket and it worked to perfection.

[@purochikano1]

Does the mortar has to go all under the base or just where is unlevel? Please help I need to install mine is a sterling too

[@ralph5450]

Either way. If you put it under all it makes a solid feel.

[@ChuckBarron]

yes i do entire area....makes it nice and solid.

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks ralphy i was sleeping at the switch.

[@purochikano1]

@@ChuckBarron thank you sir

[@purochikano1]

@@ralph5450 thank you I appreciate it

[@gtg-inspections]

This is the kind of guy I would like to hire. Good attitude and pleasant.I was thinking a couple of air bag levelers and some minimal expanding foam to float the base. Does anyone do it that way?

[@ChuckBarron]

no foam, structo lite works nice especially on unlevel floor as we had.

[@stevenbrown5693]

We use the foam but I think that structolite might hold up longer.

[@sku32956]

So you don't level the floor first then let it set up?I am ready to so such a install, I know my floor is off last time it was worked on the plumber spayed foam under neath it, I did not like that .Gave up on tile walls to lazy to wipe it down every time I use it .

[@ChuckBarron]

This stuff works nice. Its nice work with too.

[@fillowtree5505]

Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@ChuckBarron]

all good. Just trying to make it happen out here. ha

[@dealecrabr9425]

i could really use some help with the steps used for mixing the mud, my first try i had a gallon of water in the bucket and slowly added structo, when it seem to be getting to thick i went to another room to get water and come back to a solid waste of time,,,, i was using hot water as the temps were low here today, maybe 45-50 in the house. lost one of those high dollar mixing paddles that was on a big corded drill, so was it the hot water, spinning the mix to much, to fast,,,, yours looked good with thick pour that i was tying to get,, also how much time is there to work with it when you get the right thickness

[@ChuckBarron]

I always add a a little water and mix into a nice batter like pancakes. I love pancakes by the way. you can always add more struct u lite if it gets to watery, or water if not wet enough. Fun Fun Fun...good luck

[@dealecrabr9425]

@@ChuckBarron thanks for the fast reply, so are you mixing by hand

[@dealecrabr9425]

retired steamfitter here, just crab for fun on the Chesapeake below annapolis now, so its good to see a surfer dude in the trade

[@tomdale1313]

herein is my two-cents; when the base is installed with dirt beneath the concrete floor (slab on grade)my mind set says any leak is of no consequence...do your best, its the best scenario a plumber will ever have... i read some others comments and yes there are better strainers which are more plumber friendly, another option is your rough in practices; e.g. the tail pc that extends upward from the p- trap, leave it unglued, make rough in box bigger if needed, tell whoever is doing the concrete work there is a back charge for leveling... the caveat here Capt. Ron is: dont inform your fellow co-conspirators in a way that could impede your profit margin duh in business since 1993 guess you know your way amongst the pc world in which we try to make a life containing some quality...great to hear you reach out for others ways of tackling and finding solutions to continue on the road to retirement...could you then write a home owners guide to plumbing repairs and installations, include those adages such as "IT WILL WORK' or the west coast favorite, "a plumber needs but to know two things and i forgot them both", this is a good one, "i cannt see it from my house" SURF'S UP

[@ChuckBarron]

so many one liners.....lol.....so many ways paths to the finish line on every plumbing job. Everyday is different...so fun.

[@SIAFU]

Great 👍🏽video.

[@bobbader4789]

Does it need cement even its level?

[@Sbashit]

Hi Chuck, can you use struct u lite on top of a wood sub-floor for a shower located on the second floor?

[@ChuckBarron]

check on their instructions but i have used it but would lay some tar paper down first.

[@Sbashit]

@@ChuckBarron Thanks Chuck. Awesome video. I noticed you use plumber's putty around the shower drain seal. I was about to follow that. Then I noticed the warning on the Oatey Stain-Free Plumber's Putty that says " Do not use on ABS". After lots of reading I am truly confused. It seems there is a 50/50 split in using plumber's putty vs. 100% silicone caulk as far as personal preference, pros and cons of each. I get that part. However, it seems the plumber's putty will eventually degrade the ABS on the drain causing it to crack and fail? "Most rigid plastics installed using putty will eventually lose their durable, resilient structural characteristics, and become brittle - sometimes brittle enough to break with your fingers. This effect can be accelerated in plastic components that are under tension, like fittings or drains that are threaded tight to sinks or shower floors, causing cracks which lead to leaks and damage. " Anyway. I would love to hear your take on this as you would be relying on your vast experience. Thanks again, S from Canada

[@richardlowe8062]

I have a similar situation. IM using the oatey compression drain. Should the 2 inch drain pipe stick up above the top of the rubber caulking gasket before I tighten the gasket?

[@ChuckBarron]

the guys in comment of this vid have a lot of good suggestions. check em out. good luck and if ya do it your was maybe a dremel cut would knock off the last 1".. go plumber go

[@richardlowe8062]

@@ChuckBarron thanks for the reply. The stub from the slab was too short. I ended up having to use a 2 inch inside coupling to connect to the stub. The drain pipe does need to stick up through the gasket to make it seal. Found out through trial and leaks . After connecting to the stub I cut off the excess pipe using an oscillating tool. Worked great 👍 Hats off to the plumbers it's hard work !

[@deejohnson5163]

It would seem after it sets up you would go back in and fill in some more voids for strength.

[@ChuckBarron]

it turned out nice. was just there for a visit.

[@Lyricyst28]

also when you throw your mortar down just like on tile you want to put reliefs, put indentions/cuts so it has somewhere to go

[@ChuckBarron]

appreciate your tips

[@sammyjimsmith6100]

Was there a p trap below the floor?

[@stephenbrown5580]

Hey CB, what ABS adhesive are you using where you can apply it, set your pan and then remove it, re coat the connections and reset the pan? You applied first at 10:05 and removed the pan at 11:20. Then applied again at 12:20 and set the pan for good.

[@ChuckBarron]

Not sure of brand. Plenty of glue first time, was not happy and pulled off right away. then gobbed it for final time and powered it on. I have done that a lot in my career. glue fitting, ooops screwed up....remove and redo. I also have been unsuccessful too. Measure twice cut once. I should listen to my own advice....ha

[@stephenbrown5580]

Not worried about the brand but more of what the product is. It's certainly not contact cement since it would have locked within seconds of joining the parts. Can you tell me what the product is?

[@ChuckBarron]

I will find out today for sure.

[@stephenbrown5580]

Hi Chuck. I'm sure you're a super busy guy. Did you get the chance for that plumbing adhesive info?

[@stephenbrown5580]

Hi Chuck. Any chance I can get info on that sealant?

[@patricksimone1238]

That’s cool that your working with original boss,I still talk to the guy I started with as well

[@ChuckBarron]

oh for sure. We are good friends still.Good stuff.

[@rob53chevy]

What glue are you using for the drain ?thanks

[@ChuckBarron]

abs glue sir.

[@jeffcoolhd]

CB-1 if I was you next time you should have added some of that mix in the front half of the pan because after it dries the backsides going to be real solid. When you walk on it with your bare feet you can tell the difference while you're showering I'm just saying. That was a little Tech tip peace brother

[@ChuckBarron]

ok roger that......that base was already a solid base but good point.

[@jeffcoolhd]

Chuck Barron That shower Base did look like a well-made one and the instructions probably said you didn't have to use any thinset underneath this base but it does make it a much more solid shower base with the thinset mortar I've done a lot of them. I just thought I would let you know that for future reference take care buddy. Pease

[@nohalo4me555]

Makita man I too recommend setting the pan in thinset. I didn't. Every time my 225lb body steps in the shower it creaks. I'm guess the slab was not perfectly level and I didn't notice. No cracks after 10 years, but each creak makes me nervous. Any post installation remedies?

[@BlazingStarEnergycom]

Excellent video, appreciate you taking the time to video this and make it available. Out of curiosity, why didn't you put a thin layer of mortar on the front side to hold the shower completely secure, while using extra mortar on the back to level? Thanks, Phil

[@ChuckBarron]

phil, once struct u lite sets its a wrap . she will not move.

[@Huss-iw6ph]

Would love to hear anyone installing steam showers, specifically The Ariel brand, i did one 5 yrs ago. What an experience. Im lookin at you Chuck.....Maybe Lee will take a swing at this one.

[@ChuckBarron]

wow....i have not done any steam units in years....thats my question of the day in community room....Check it out....this is for huss.

[@TS-tq7yb]

Make sure your ceiling and bench are pitched or they will mold.

[@armandomadrigal9793]

stub out, right on the money CB, nice one, hope the second one was much easier

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks armando...second one was on point to but the floor was out more....we got er done. film coming in the future.

[@armandomadrigal9793]

I will be looking for it CB, thanks

[@raymondsantiago2411]

Use mortar instead of concrete so you don’t crack the shower base. You would be surprised but even the smallest rocks in the concrete can crack the shower base especially if it’s fiberglass. Then you have to come back and and tear everything out and pay the tile guy and the dry wall guy to come back too!

[@ChuckBarron]

Oh that was a mix called structo-lite from home depot....really nice to work with. it was like making pancakes...lol

[@ChuckBarron]

no concrete....I did that before....horrible....and harder to mix....thanks ray

[@peterboissiere9684]

Do u have inside pipe cutters

[@ChuckBarron]

I dont. I need them...I just checked online recently....180.00

[@peterboissiere9684]

It's like a drill bit it fits on a drill. It has a saw blade on it.

[@ChuckBarron]

Pete i do have that one. I just used it on the floor drains i capped.

[@marcogodinez5412]

Looks great, good video too. Oscillation tools might work well!. 😊

[@ChuckBarron]

got one now...thanks

[@asinger261]

Or grinder with metal cut off wheel

[@MrCeora]

Super thin material. I like Mustee shower base.

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks for sharing, but this base was beast mode too. Not a cheapy.

[@joshmcfate9687]

You ever try an inside cutter?

[@ChuckBarron]

I think so...my man Horge the lebonese prince who was helping me had one and could not find it. I

[@ChuckBarron]

I am gonna look em up. Our teammate on this plumbing channel squad. Anthony S sent me the link. I have to look it up.

[@joshmcfate9687]

If you get one run the drill in reverse so you don’t lose the bit in the pipe.. when you run it in reverse with the inside cutter it tightens it up..great tool for stuff like that.. 😎🏄🤙

[@TS-tq7yb]

Use a gasket type strainer.

[@ChuckBarron]

have been ever since...brass ones.

[@footlongburrito]

@chuckbarron have you seen tigerfish inside pipe cutters? Best cutters for this you can't live without it once you have. Also plaster of Paris is better than thin set or mortar, it doesn't shrink or leave any gaps

[@ChuckBarron]

oh snap...great idea....thanks.

[@louietheplumber3609]

You did good CB

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks my Plumbing brother.

[@amyjmj3]

What if your floor is level, would you still prefer using the cement? What kind of mortar mix is the best?

[@ChuckBarron]

I like struct u lite

[@nayemhossain4283]

Please use multi tool

[@ChuckBarron]

Yes sir.

[@throttlebottle5906]

my solution to the shower base install? have someone else install it :)) A "glue on" strainer yikes! I'd have went for a tamp in rubber seal or screw/clamp type seal, the hole is large/pipe fit loose and you install the seal after it's set in place. one less thing to fight while setting in mud/plaster, trying to glue and mud at the same time is a complete nightmare!

[@ChuckBarron]

man for sure....had some rough rubber shower gasket troubles in past..we chose the abs since rough was pretty good but still a struggle....rubber gasket the way....next time.. not many basements here at the shore thank god.

[@stanleyvo5198]

What is the name cement to fill up the gap under walk in shower...?

[@ChuckBarron]

struct u lite from home depot.

[@scorpiosalgado7353]

Good job chuck Little by little not bad lol

[@ChuckBarron]

yes indeed.

[@primetime8717]

what size shower is that

[@ChuckBarron]

42x36 i think.

[@mycats7321]

Thank you for this video. I think it would have been a good idea to have shimmed underneath the showerpan to get it level before trimming the final amount for the pipe just in case the difference in height for level affected how long the pipe needed to be. I would also suggest taking a cardboard tube (like Pringles can) to set inside the pipe temporarily to help guide the shower pan down straight. A capped or upsidedown Pringles can would also keep crud from falling down the pipe. Alternatively, Robert Roca's suggestion of leaving the rough-in pipe long and then cutting it off from the inside after the base is set would be a good idea. What was the name of the stuff you used for mortar? Struculite? The CC kept giving different spellings. I'm going to be installing a 60" Sterling shower base in the near future so I've been watching how to do installations. It will have the matching sterling surround since we despise tile. It will be on a wood floor instead of concrete though.

[@ChuckBarron]

Thank you. its struc u lite out of homedepot. its spelled odd.

[@mycats7321]

@@ChuckBarron Thanks! I'll have to see if they have it at the nearest one to me. Another technique I've seen suggested by plumbers is to do piles of mortar in various spots so that they have room to spread out. I believe it was Terry Love who suggested doing 9 piles under a 60" pan. I plan to use low expansion spray foam in the cavity for the front apron just to add a little more support. Current shower/tub has a crack in the floor (it's over 40yrs old & ugly AF-- avocado green 1-piece monstrosity). I want to make sure new shower will have adequate support.

[@admiralbm]

No glue on final installation

[@ChuckBarron]

All glued up. If not on film it was done for sure.

[@patricksimone1238]

They drive me nuts lol,I actually put one in my own House in the basement bath,it went so bad I couldn’t even put the footage on KZbin lol

[@ChuckBarron]

lol....dude I hear ya. that one I we did went so smooth it was scary.

[@towysplumbing188]

You Need inside cutter

[@ChuckBarron]

got one now. ha.