CIA Spy & FBI Agent Debate: China, Ukraine & How To Disappear People

[@dannyjones]

Help support this podcast by visiting VERSO: Go to ver.so/koncrete to save 15% on your order. Outline: 0:00 - Introduction 3:16 - How agencies kill people 7:40 - Ukraine-Russia War Update 14:37 - Peace in Ukraine near? Why Ukraine is not strategic 23:28 - China / What happened to Ju Jintao? 30:05 - China recruiting intel from US 39:00 - The FTX crash / MakerDAO founder 46:10 - China’s intelligence / conspiracy 51:55 - Using horrific crimes to gain intelligence 54:40 - Why the CIA & FBI are necessary 59:34 - CIA & FBI Coordination on 9/11 1:10:43 - Mexican Cartels & The CIA 1:24:08 - Weaponizing stigma to influence media/narrative 1:35:17 - Private Intelligence 1:47:38 - The IRS 1:52:30 - Scientology, Culture, & religion 2:06:42 - Havana Syndrome 2:12:25 - CIA & FBI secrets 2:21:25 - Negative Commenters place in public discourse 2:25:12 - UFO's or secret war technology 2:29:35 - TWA 800 crash in 1996 2:34:12 - Conspiracy theories / Operation Northwoods 2:40:25 - The JFK Docs; Incompetence vs Conspiracy 2:43:40 - Epste1n Debate

[@WayneJohn-fq6cn]

You guys mispelled Bustamante in the video description

[@bigfootyeti3690]

@@WayneJohn-fq6cn well, you misspelled Victor Peterson. So, whose the dummy know?

[@kel3508]

Hu Jintao**

[@mrj3217]

These two shills are spreading their propaganda to the audience that mainstream cable news networks cannot reach on these podcast. They are the establishment. If you factually look at America today and see how many illegal war crimes we have commuted it's disturbing. Our government is using propaganda on its own citizens they're censoring American citizens they control the media , so in essence they control the LIE. America illegally invaded Syria, Libya , Afghanistan (for 20 years ),right now we're in Haiti ,Somalia , Ethiopia. We just blew up NORDSTROM w pipe lines screwing our allies Germany and this whole proxy war is hurting American's. Essentially the American government is sanctioning the American people by doing a proxy war against Russia for what ? Seriously what ? Now we know all those created 80 to 100 billion dollars was sent to Ukraine using FTX and laundered right back to the politicians. What is the end game here ? I know this and will say this right now . I am a proud America but not proud of what we become today the worlds biggest terrorist organization. Look back when Germany did what they wanted and took most of Europe. Eventually the rest of the world caught on and realized thay must be stopped. America has become Germany in the threat to every single country who refuses to bow to the West's authority. Economic Warfare is what America is complicit in right now we sanction people to death we kill innocent people with sanctions we don't let them rebuild. This is very clear to massuve country's like India , China , Russia , Iran , Saudi Arabia , Brazil , Venezuela , N.Korea , Turkey , Pakistan and now Afghanistan and Iraq know exactly what happens when America shows up. They will not be forced so they are going to end our power with the Yuan . The end of the dollar as the world's standard currency = the official end of the American Empire.

[@lucasfff1370]

you misspelled Epstein in the time stamps

[@daviddelgado6411]

I like how when the host brought up Kiki Camarrena and him actually being killed by a CIA operative both men became suddenly silent. They both had no feedback or an attempt to try and help him recall what he was referencing... Just crickets. Then steer the conversation to a different direction.

[@criln9]

BRO I'm so glad someone else noticed that

[@edsoncarrillo7211]

Timestamp? 😅

[@pinnitt]

@@edsoncarrillo7211 I believe the timestamp is 1:15:40

[@Mrpopular689]

They are CNN headline podcast people.

[@FahQ760]

1:20:49 Bustamonte is the one who asked where the CIA connection is. I doubt he was even alive then lol

[@nittojoe136]

It took the Marine Corps a year and a half to do an MRI on my shoulder after begging the entire time because I literally couldn't use it. Couldn't even put a seat belt on. After they did the MRI, found out my shoulder was destroyed and needed surgery. Doctor asked me how I was doing anything the whole time. That's basically how the government works on every level

[@jayoldtowngolf3066]

Considering you could have taken your ID to an emergency room off base or the naval hospital and gotten seen for free to get your shoulder checked out is the part that makes 0 sense to me about your comment. So easy to go get seen outside of your BAS that it’s almost comical that you would be commenting about the Marine Corps (naval medical) not fixing your shoulder. Kinda like all of our brothers and sisters bitching about the VA not helping, yet they aren’t willing to do any leg work to get treatment. Ignorance is not an excuse to go through your life blaming everyone else. And I do agree the government sucks, but god damn this is the dumbest comment I’ve ever read on KZbin, and that’s saying something

[@duaneborgaes9223]

🏁😂👌Didn't mean to laugh but...🤣

[@sludgerat666]

You a trooper. Shame on the US for how they treat yall.

[@SuperElite27000000]

Keep your powder dry, and your pecker hard brother.

[@ZetsuboNoShima]

I found this out when I was 16 and went to the dmv for the first time, I figured if something this simple and common is so fucked up due to it being government run, I can’t imagine anything on a large/international scale. The private sector has its faults but the efficiency is not one of them, they even do war better.

[@Fitch29420]

This guy Andrew is very interesting to listen to. That being said, I don't believe at all he's retired. I seriously think he's still very much active and in charge of confusing the audience to fit the CIAs narrative on multiple subjects. I mean he literally wears a shirt in every show that says "every day spy"

[@kubinzz]

U had me in the first half.

[@doesntmatter4477]

The idea that Andrew came onto this show on an official CIA spy mission, wearing a shirt that says everyday spy, in order to somehow confuse the small number of ppl watching it is very silly. Confuse how btw? Lol. The people who watched this are just regular ass boring ppl, some of who are likely into some conspiracy stuff out of boredom or curiousity probably haha....not very significant to CIA

[@ilove2learn783]

It's always about the money. Whatever you hear - if it doesn't say money then no point listening to. US declared help for as long as possible. "We give you money and you buy our stuff with this money" = good for economy = money... LOADS OF MONEY

[@killianthegrunt]

It's all an active psyop.

[@no6odys8fe90]

He founded and runs a company called EverydaySpy , its called self promoting your own shit , please remove your tin hat

[@jackiefeathers]

I not only find this particular podcast series very informative, but also very entertaining. I could listen to Andy talk all night. Especially appreciated by this 80 yr. old 25 year vet of the USAF.

[@SoarLong]

Can't believe a guy like him is good at talking.

[@justinriley158]

CIA spy who has been popping up as a guest on nearly all of my favorite podcasts over the course of the past few months 🤔 Almost as though it’s some sort of, ummmmm… assignment. like a project? 😆

[@asdfasdf8659]

Because they are working the American people

[@asdfasdf8659]

All Normalization propaganda of evil work .

[@tellyourauntimmovingon1528]

You think a real cia agent will go on a. Podcast to just talk ? Let alone admit they were/are

[@LeoLpaper]

@@tellyourauntimmovingon1528 Cia agents are not mystical creatures

[@tellyourauntimmovingon1528]

@@LeoLpaper but they have code

[@greggz7795]

The best part of this podcast is when Julian keeps his mouth shut.

[@NickDiazofNauts]

Andrew even closed the door like a CIA spy would 😂😂

[@nin9liv9s63]

One of these gentlemen is clearly speaking from the establishment and the other is speaking from the heart.

[@thomasmacginnes100]

or you would’nt watch ! We all chose (ac) over (dc) it provided a wider Reach ..lol

[@Inversion_wrld]

@@thomasmacginnes100 absolutely not

[@logick2]

Trust no one!

[@xskillzdatki11x]

“You’re a great PR man” lmaoo bruh that was my first thought about Andrew from the very first interview I ever saw of him

[@smif86]

This was a dope podcast and worth sitting through the full 3 hours in one shot. Instead of going over Epstein, 9/11 or Kennedy again, next time you have either of these guys on please ask them about the Vegas Shooting.

[@scottgreen6538]

That would be a very interesting conversation. If the CIA guy starts getting really combative with Julian again you know the CIA lost control of an OP.

[@mhoovair89]

Good topic

[@brandonblackfyre5783]

This was a great episode. Loved it.

[@boomcrypto8347]

GREAT idea. I am an armchair detective and for every cold case I have EVER looked at , i could come up with an IDEA of what happened really? I cannot find one thing that works for it ALL, I feel we witnessed 2 or 3 things presented as 1 thing. How about you ?

[@jasonclayton7116]

Would be a wonderful idea to also cover this subject matter. You should do a show with John Cullen.

[@RicondaRacing]

Finding a reputable information source as an independent thinker is probably the hardest part.

[@1Surt]

yes, and it was not found here.

[@numberofaman6665]

Yeah... But when you sitting across the table from CIA and FBI. What could these to possibly bring up in discussion that the two retired gentlemen wouldn't know or could easily look into in the not so distant. Future. All these two guys are doing is stroking there own egos with government representation visiting there little Podcast. Why they don't ask the question "" what does the government gain by having retired FBI and Ex Fucking CIA having these guys pretty popular in certain circles on internet world with followers anyway. At least they were nice enough to blow some wind up skirts. They sure did seem to enjoy it. LOL. ANY EX GOVERNMENT FIELD OFFICER TO FORMER DIRECTOR THAT WANTED TO HAVE A SIT DOWN WITH ME.PROVIDDED I MAY HAVE PROVOKED IT (WOULDNT HAPPEN. I HAVE KNOW NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT INFORMATION I COULD PUMP OUT OF THE CIA OR THE FBI ABOUT THEMSELVES. I WILL STAY IM SMARTER THAN THAT. I WILL HOWEVER SAY MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS MY ENTIRE LIVE. I CAN APPRECIATE THE POTENTIAL OF A MONOTIZED KZbin CHANNEL. BUT SITTING FACE TO FACE TO THE FBI AND CIA AS THEY INTERVIEW YOU AND INVESTIGATE YOU. I DONT CARE BOW YOU LOOK AT IT!!! IT HAPPENED!!!!!! OK... AT LEAST YOU CAN SAY YOU MADE A COUPLE OF NEW FRIENDS. IM SORRY. BUT IVE NEVER BEEN THAT HARD UP. SOME MAY EVEN USE THE WORD DESPERATE. (REALLY) FOR FRIENDS OR CONTENT GUYS. BUT HEY ... EVERYONE'S DIFFERENT

[@znation1491]

Yeah objective journalism no longer exists

[@m1kr0kosmos]

Falling in love is the hardest part.

[@gehrhardtschneider]

MakerDAO guy tweets that he's going to be killed. Turns up drowned a few weeks later... Andrew Bustamante - "That was totally an accident. He lives on an island dontchaknow". I take this interview with a gigantic pinch of salt.

[@davidedwards8033]

Bingo. Notice how he tries immediately to reframe any potential indictment of the agency with dismissive rhetorical deflections like the one you mentioned.

[@ammoboxtv8560]

Don’t mistake the way a asset goes on a podcast to tell you who’s the good guy and who’s the bad guy

[@bladercentral]

OnCe CiA AlWaYs CiA

[@uberhaxonova]

lmao, the education/experience difference between the 2 sides of this table was way too high, really bad interviewering. Danny is ok but his friend is a disaster

[@logick2]

Gatekeepers and snakes bite differently, but fangs still hurt.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

I trust my fellow mutt as far as I can throw him. 😂

[@steelcitykings28]

I wish this group would get together ever few months to have this type of talk again. Keep us ALL in the loop of wtf is actually going on with our country and world💀🤦🏻‍♂️

[@CulperCast]

Hate to break it to you, this agent will never fully "keep you in the loop" he is saying just enough without telling you what is actually up.

[@FahQ760]

I completely agree. It would be great to hear this group of guys talk every few months.

[@gunbacker9428]

Overall, this episode was amazing. But the FBI agent stating that the founder of maker DAO, Nikolai Mushegian, had 15 drinks and cocaine before going in the water to discredit the mans integrity was weird. There hasn't even been an autopsy yet and it's an ongoing investigation. Why would he lie about the guys character like that? Nikolai stated that the US government/global elites were to blame if he were to die. I'm not saying that's what happened, but I find it odd that FBI guy completely rejects that claim and lies to "disprove" the claim.

[@itsallalie2]

T

[@itsallalie2]

1-i think he was joking 2- he's not highly informed. Cops are generally hired bc they meet a series of minimum requirements and do not have a criminal record. Exceptional is not the standard. Think Hank in breaking bad..good ,well intentioned guy.. have you noticed there's one person at the table who commands language different than the rest? Very deliberate word choice and can explain in concise detail the point he's making....

[@ayylmao4501]

No the pedo elite part is true, that’s the things that keeps him up at night, maybe he’s good, maybe he’s adrenochrome addict as well

[@musikinspace]

I think he was riffing on what other perhaps more likely alternatives might be. And it does make sense, though it's still suspiious that he thought he was being targeted

[@johnwalker1449]

He literally sat there and shook his head in agreement with everything the cia guy said the whole time. Very hard to believe these guys. Way too confident.

[@WasBlind_NowISee]

We need this podcast to do another one with the current affairs. A lot has happened in two months.

[@realityufotv]

I swear when this CIA guy was first on the podcast, I swear he said that we have nothing to worry about as far as China in military terms. He said the Chinese were content with it's business state and is only concerned with growling financially and specifically said they are not a threat. And now he's saying like the exact opposite by stating that they are a military threat and have been getting stronger while we have been getting weaker because of 20 years of war. I specifically remember him saying that and being like he's wrong and then now he's saying something totally different. He seems like a know it all. Go back and look at his first appearance on the podcast and you'll see what I mean.

[@Themayseffect]

I've watched all 3 of these episodes with Bustamante and he hasn't flipped his story as much as you are saying, he has consistently stayed China is looking to become the dominant economical giant and has also added they've been consistently building there military complex by not being tied into global conflicts as we do. So they are preparing for any pending conflict if it so comes and will attack Taiwan if necessary. His stand point on that never changed. Not sure what you are hearing.

[@helenhoward5346]

@@Themayseffect whoa this is a weird what's that phenomena again? Maybe they're mixing him up with another agent or podcast or variation of the two. Maybe you're right but my ADHD will inevitably prevent me from verifying for the sake of a KZbin comment though.

[@realityufotv]

@@Themayseffect I remember him saying that they are happy with the way things are and making money more than concerned with us. That's why I said I swear because I wasn't positive. I was expecting his answer to say yes, they are a threat to Western society and it's in their doctrine to dislike us. I thought that's what I saw on the first video of him talking about China cuz you know the Chinese have always hated the West since their existence. I was waiting for him to say that and he didn't say that and I was kind of took note to it because it was off. That's maybe what I was thinking. It's all good. I like the guy. just saying I think he wasn't saying that in his first.

[@zazouille2264]

@@realityufotv "(...)China cuz you know the Chinese have always hated the West since their existence.(...)" Just trying to understand. Is this what you believe?

[@quellenathanar]

The government was supposed to have a limitation on their power. This is what the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th amendments were written for. The "secrets" necessary for security of the union are supposed to be checked by the senate select (gang of 8). How much of these secrets are actually needed for security is what people have concerns about.

[@FazeParticles]

The US is functionally an imperialist empire. They don’t like the constitution. These feds don’t like the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th amendments.

[@quellenathanar]

@@FazeParticles Every state/nation is. The US happens to be the most powerful, and influential, so we tend to think of it as the poster child for "imperialism". It's actually possible to be imperial as well as constitutional. The imperialistic nature of the US is mostly because of her foreign policy. That's not to say there is no abuse of power toward its citizens, but it pales in comparison to how it operates abroad.

[@FazeParticles]

@@quellenathanar IDK, the NSA now has a inward directive to crush terrorists who usually have characteristics of conservative values, etc. this btw is the same apparatus they used to crush the muslim brotherhood so the tyrannical infrastructure is there to destroy what's left of the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments. that's a fact. and true it could be worse but it SHOULD Be Better.

[@quellenathanar]

@@FazeParticles What the NSA does is totally outside the public purview, so yea anything is possible.

[@quellenathanar]

@@almo3250 "a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force." The limitations on power and influence that the US government has on its citizens, do not exist for individuals and nations externally.

[@JulianDorey]

This was so much fun! Can't wait til we get to do it again ✊💯

[@JulianDorey]

@H37 ✊✊✊

[@JulianDorey]

@H37 haha thank you for stopping by at the start here!

[@Arkstromater]

My maaaan. Love u Julian

[@JulianDorey]

@@Arkstromater whaddup Mark!!

[@jeffmiller3499]

Man I get the not everything is a conspiracy thing of course but. But damn Andy denying that anything is a conspiracy is way more dangerous & imo absurd. The fact that says & dismisses blackmail being effective or even applied on an individual level or w/e & that you can apparently so easily bounce back from fking a kid is weird and honestly a joke lol. For someone always championing going off what you know, that's a insanely confident dismissal (based on assumption) lol wild. I do like listening to him though, has a lot of valuable insight. First time hearing you Julian, don't agree with it all but, I'm not supposed to. 😎 Keep up the interesting convos 👍

[@CaliforniaCarpenter7]

Andrew's take on the Ukraine war neglects The Crimean Peninsula entirely. Ukraine owned a *massive* oil reserve and it was discovered right before Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. Putin's Russia stays alive and relevant on a World stage economically specifically because of their Siberian oil reserves that supply Western Europe. If Ukraine still had that oil they could simply undercut Russia and NATO would gladly help them build the pipelines. I have a very difficult time taking Andrew seriously when he appears so educated on the subject and yet, very conveniently misses the catalyst that sparked the whole thing. I think both the CIA and FBI guest are both active and we should view their points through a prism of skepticism.

[@allykid4720]

Well, according to Ukrainian officials, Crimean oil reserves were estimated at 66 mln tons in total. Meanwhile, Russia has 19 000 mln tons, and it produces 535 mln tons per year. So it wouldn't make up even 0,5% of the Russian reserves. That guest was right: Crimea is indeed strategically important to Russia, oil wasn't the catalyst.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Andrew has no fucking business talking about Ukraine. He's not an analyst- he's a field agent.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

You gotta understand that our Andryusha is a fake. He's a field agent masquarading as an analyst. I find his assessments " comical ".

[@kirkbarnett1231]

Didn't they find one of the biggest natural had reserves in the world in ukraines waters, under the sea bed?

[@mr.cylinder6623]

this is the podcast I've been looking for 10 years now I swear this is what the definition of podcasting is

[@brandonblackfyre5783]

Andrew had some very good points about the war in Ukraine. I would love to see his reaction to this huge retreat in Kerhson right now that happened right after you guys filmed this episode

[@toddkonrad2407]

Exactly

[@vaultsjan]

They sound very naive and rather uninformed so no applause.

[@kiritimatiswan1986]

@@vaultsjan they sound like they still have the federal thumb on their necks, and they are spouting what they tell them too

[@edwardmcneil1573]

I just found this podcast. I have been to Ukraine many times, I will be there again soon and I am intimately involved with Ukrainian Army. When I am not there I am in contact with people in Ukraine everyday. These guys are interesting but they seem to have an axe to grind and do not know as much as they are leading the audience to believe and they are wrong about almost everything they have said about Ukraine. The comment by the FBI guy "it's all just Narcissism" shows what a deep thinker he is. Meanwhile real people are fighting and dying everyday in Ukraine while he sits and does nothing.

[@kiritimatiswan1986]

@Anthony M no, because that’s how the intelligence community works

[@loscheleros610]

I like that the China/mexico issue was brought up.Should be daily news.

[@steves3961]

This is a awesome podcast in general. Been listening to you for few weeks now. Wish I found this earlier. This episode with Andrew and Jim. Wow. Wow. It was great watching. Hopefully all u guys do a future one again. Best of luck to you all.

[@FightNightFellow]

Y'all see how quietly Andrew closed the door when he came back in the room? He doesn't want to interrupt them with unnecessary noise, such a great dude

[@vangeezer]

And yet no timestamp

[@henryphilips6563]

👆👆🤣🤣

[@slnt6542]

I literally read this comment as this happened 2:31:33

[@cloudmaster182]

@@slnt6542 love when that happens

[@neithanm]

That's a pretty low bar...

[@justinlopes925]

I love listening to andy talk but boy you can tell he can switch it on whenever he wants. Showed little glimpses of that throughout this pod i sure wouldn’t wanna be on his bad side. Loved the pod keep up the great work boys!

[@curtisjohnson4078]

so glad to see all four of you guys on here this is fire thanks Andrew, Jim, and trendifier for appearing and Danny from koncrete for hosting this star-studded episode

[@JulianDorey]

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[@curtisjohnson4078]

@@JulianDorey I'm subbed to you to brotha, great pods!!! Keep it up!!! 👍 Stay solid brotha ✊🤞💪😎☘️

[@mhoovair89]

Julian and danny on some podcast king shit with this one

[@FarmerStickman]

Maybe a stupid question but isn't the guy from konkrete named Danny Jones? N Andrew is the cia guy. Unless that's what u mean but u said thanks andrew from konkrete so am a lil confused.

[@JulianDorey]

@@mhoovair89 glad you enjoyed it brotha!

[@cortneynichols8537]

It's so funny watching Andy deny anything having to do with aliens. Yet now he's an investigator on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch lol

[@automatic1737]

LOVE THIS! Great conversation, super interesting, and the best part for me was how much I learned. Thanks for the awesome content, I really enjoyed the episode

[@alexeiutgoff7955]

Frick yes! Andrew is back! I'm not familiar with Jim but excited to hear his point of view too!

[@JulianDorey]

Andy and Jim in the same room are gold

[@1338-c9s]

Frick ? 😂

[@alexeiutgoff7955]

@@1338-c9s frick yeah!

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

"Hey guys, tell everyone how they can find you." -Danny "No problem...go ahead and turn around because I am on your back porch staring thru the sink window." -Andy "Sounds good, Andy. And what about you, Jim?" -Julian "Easy enough...you can get ahold of me by picking up your phone. I been wiretapping it for the last week." -Jim

[@cameronboon2024]

It’s difficult to put into words how much I’ve enjoyed this podcast.

[@OkItsOurTube]

Random suggestion on youtube and im blown tf away. What an insanely insightful and informative podcast to come out of nowhere

[@brandonscott3098]

This was my first time listening to you guys. What a great interview. These guests are awesome. Looking forward to listening to more episodes

[@scorch4299]

the guests are good, but the interviewers suck, especially that kid in the black hat. They keep interrupting to ask the dumbest shit....

[@michiganufosandparanormal]

Recently found Koncrete and this is probably the 2nd interview I've watched and man, this is great! I love your work and keep it up. Amazing stuff.

[@Torcky]

Watch james fox, amazing stuff.

[@Larrypint]

2:30 was the last try Viktor Schokin? Prosecutor of the Burisma corruption Scandal in Ukraine, he survived in a Austrian Heart kilinikum, intoxicated with quicksilver. He thinks it was the CIA under Biden.

[@rubibeats]

The quick glance at 1:06:36 😂 Julian: “When I’m reading a book” Andrew: 👀

[@creaghhess]

I thank you all for doing this podcast. Bringing light in a dark world. We need positive happy people to help us believe there is hope. Love all you guys!

[@austinh.8231]

This podcast episode had 3 great intelligent, thought provoking, respectful speakers!

[@taoforte8988]

Who's the odd man out?

[@austinh.8231]

Crazy eyes 😂

[@nickrex1997]

@@taoforte8988 i thought the same at first. 😂 but I think he means the 3 guests not including host Danny. Julian from TRENDIFIER is kinda co-hosting so I missed it at first.

[@taoforte8988]

@@nickrex1997 yeah but who is "crazy eyes"? I'm assuming he means Julian?

[@nickrex1997]

@@taoforte8988 idk maybe 😂

[@kenlequack3202]

Jim is such a good man. Julian is lucky to have him in his life.

[@JulianDorey]

One hundred percent, that’s my guy right there 🤞

[@jonhelguson]

@@JulianDorey pretty sure that’s a “feel good bot” Julian.

[@Fitch29420]

Are they gay?

[@jsgdk]

Its always a pleasure to get played by Mr. Bustamante for a few hours.

[@zl5464]

For real. I feel the same way about Mike Baker when he goes on Rogan's podcast.

[@bonnieklapel1825]

Jim and Andrew are totally right about military pensions and about claiming disability and such. There isn’t any incentive monetarily for government/military employees. I’m a service-connected disabled veteran. I got out of the military after 9 years of service. I had injuries from doing my job but wasn’t trying to get any disability from them. I never sought it out. I worked in different jobs for 28 more years as well as furthered my education until in 2016 I couldn’t work anymore regardless of the fact that I wanted to keep working. I was told to apply for VA compensation when I had applied for SSDI. And I was approved for SSDI and for 10% VA compensation. It barely allowed me to survive but only with additional financial help. The VA reopened one of my claims they had denied almost 7 years previously and approved it after reviewing my records and a long interview and increased my 10% disability to 70%. It increased my VA compensation yet I still receive less than 1/2 of the median income in my zip code and I’m in the lowest 25% income level so anyone who thinks that living on disability is pleasant hasn’t any clue. I’d much rather be not disabled and be able to work but I can’t.

[@gabe2045]

I could listen to Andrew all day. Dude has amazing insights! He's on another level!🔥

[@walt3rwhit387]

Except he’s a total manipulative whacko. Listen to some Whitney Webb podcasts and open your eyes about Epstein. Watch a podcast with her or read her books “One Nation Under Blackmail” so you can see what’s really going on. Andrew is a shill

[@lino222]

a storyteller...

[@thewalrus1968]

full of sh## tbh

[@a-d-o_ddbs-n3427]

i could mute julian all day :(

[@alicecampos-ayala3290]

They would be an asset if they are teaching Long over due.

[@elcolin_]

These conversations need to happen more often!

[@JulianDorey]

Agreed!

[@gunbacker9428]

@@JulianDorey you four need to create a podcast. Even a weekly or monthly summary of world events would be amazing.

[@JulianDorey]

@@gunbacker9428 i would be down, will have to build to that, but in the meantime I’m sure we’ll do a pod like this again

[@mrj3217]

These guys are propaganda spreaders for the establishment. This whole problem with Russia is due to America . --Covid was partially due to America we paid for some of that game to functioning. --The rising gas prices and inflation here in America is a problem that American created on its own. --All of these things tie in to a big gov't that has no ability to do the right thing or at least its job by putting Americans first. -- No we have a bunch of politicians who are bought and paid for by the military industrial complex who are playing a giant Real World game of Risk with human lives. --America needs a complete new smaller gov't. Smaller is better = more accountability.

[@chrisbova9686]

How about some truth for a change?

[@bradlundquist5483]

Great discovery! The guests are a perfect match, with energetic certitude paired to the calm gravitas. I’m trying to be open minded about Juliens “developing” ability to not grab the tiller from the guest so much and abandon such fascinating courses of topic and detail. It’s my very first episode, guys, so I’m aware that I need to view more content. Great so far! I just wish he’d waited to drop in with the FTX and Bitcoin stuff. The guest was on a big roll about China’s influence and involvement in other less obvious areas. The Bitcoin/Twitter stuff is great to expand upon, but it’s widely known and reported on. Then again, I jumped on this boat willingly, and I’m not going to criticize the captains course. This is great stuff. Apologies for the nautical analogies. I blame my life at sea.

[@bradlundquist5483]

BTW, Verso is legit! I take the same supplements independently, and knew there was probably somewhere I could access them already paired up. I’m currently looking into switching to Verso to simplify my supply chain issues here in Canada. Our Government is trying to obliterate the supplement and herbal market atm.

[@Rayza82]

Totally agree, don't want to hate on the guy, I;m sure his show is cool and he does a lot of interesting stuff. But his personality really didn't fit in with this conversation. And he was cutting everyone off all the time.

[@UserName-b8g]

seriously both of these hosts can go screw themselves. They are SO bad that I will be sure to never click on another one of these podcasts again lol. The guests were amazing and the only thing that made this decent.

[@paddyboy6155]

TBH imho as an ex investigator once the person across the desk starts talking - LET THEM TALK - don’t interrupt with silly childish ridiculous irrelevant comments. Drove me nuts. The two guests have an enormous amount of experience and when they talk everyone in the room should zip it and simply listen ! If I ever come back to this channel I sincerely hope the hosts allow their guests to tell the audience the full story and not interrupt them with nonsense !

[@ayoPHREEK]

One of the fastest 3 and a half hours I’ve ever listened to….one of my favorite podcasts by far

[@powersfoshow]

It is amazing me that people actually think that a CIA "spy" and an FBI agent would sit here on a podcast and tell it all 😂🤦🏻‍♂️ the gullibility of people in this country will be the death of us I swear.

[@ljunyreona9882]

Gay man,transgender,lesbian,pedophile,drug dealer came out why not Cia,Fbi or Alien.It's a strange world.

[@343DonTL00kAtMe]

Loved the discussion of the 80/20 principal, along with the need to focus on one thing at a time; no multitasking. Great insight guys, thanks!

[@auditoryproductions1831]

It's really hard for me to believe that 80% of listeners aren't paying attention. Also hard for me to believe that multi-tasking is ineffective.

[@MrCashewkitty]

So who's going to tell dudes like Pat Mahomes who plays ball, owns 30 something Whataburgers, a soccer team, part of a a baseball team, does commercials and wins MVPs that he should really not be multi tasking. What about dudes like Jocko who run multiple businesses very effectively. It's not foe everyone for sure. I'm very much a one job at a time guy, checkbit off, and one to the next on the list. My wife starts 6 projects at the same time and finishes them all. It's hard for me to watch because it looks like chaos. To her, I appear to be wasting time because I'm not doing the laundry while I'm waiting on pool paint to dry. 🤷‍♂️

[@cherryspriteyt1432]

watched the whole 3 hours and was entertained every second of it. This is some brain bending info

[@gecsus]

I am an American ex-pat, veteran, that has lived in China for over 10 years working with University teachers. I have observed that the military here counts freshmen students as part of the military, even though they have no real training. Having watched many military parades and living near at least one military outpost, The general military personnel are not what China projects through its demonstrations and marching troops. They are hand picked to fit the image China wants you to see. Many, if not most, are soft effeminate males that can not stand up against the American military that used to exist when I served (mid 1960s). i don't know about today's military in the USA. I foot raced several of them and there best showing was a small win, with me 3 feet behind him at our 40 yard run. I was moving closer and tapped him on the shoulder as we crossed the finish line. I am 74 years old at the time. China is destroying America through influence and the Biden administration is owned by China. All information, freely given, has motivation (positive or negative). If motivation is denied, it is indicative of deception. Be careful of well formed disinformation. At time 2:49:45 How is it not leverage that China finances African infrastructure, providing loans to governments that will never be able to pay back these debts and are wholly indebted to provide total control when they default. I do understand a lot about other countries and the reality of this world. I have been to 26 countries and have friends on every inhabited continent on the world.

[@murleyryan]

Me starting this vid: "Jesus 3 hours of this?" Me 2.5 hours in: "I would gladly watch 4 more hours of this". GREAT discussion gents.

[@jayray.free.the_wild]

😂💯

[@asdfasdf8659]

Why is Cia working on American people

[@369Connections]

Sick and tired of narcissism being thrown around. It's a clinical diagnosis that requires a clinician and time with the person to diagnose. Yet... somehow... every 1 is a psychologist and can diagnose narcissism without meeting a person...

[@ericlosey998]

Yoooooooo " right before 9/11 " im dead 😂😂😂😂

[@kicksmechanic]

I see Andrew bustamante I click, no questions💯😎

[@JulianDorey]

He’s always good for a wild convo

[@kicksmechanic]

@@JulianDorey I appreciate you putting pressure on him asking tough questions but he's really masterful the way he carries a conversation and his takes. You can tell he's put alot of thought on these things and has a incredible mind.. I can totally see what CIA saw in him💯💯

[@DonaldDucksRevenge]

Is it the sophistry or overdone perm that gets you?

[@aaronmoffitt1461]

Fantastic mash up of minds here guys! This is the podcast I needed today. Thanks KONCRETE and TRENDIFIER for making this happen!!

[@piendawg]

Totally discounting what the pilots have said they seen with their own eyes

[@DonaldDucksRevenge]

Affirmative denials are tacit confirmations from governments

[@Errordemn6]

Yup, let's ignore what top gun graduate pilots who are TRAINED much more than these guys to determine what is physically capable in the air. It's their job to know what a damn strange light is and what a craft that is moving at speeds not capable by humanity yet. I hate it when these experts do that. These pilots are the MOST credible eye witnesses in the world. And to disregard what they experienced is total bullshit.

[@piendawg]

@@Errordemn6 100% spot on

[@DonaldDucksRevenge]

@@Errordemn6 In order to work in Intel one of the mandates is you have to be a deep confirmed Kool-Aid drinker.. Or be indistinguishable from the same.

[@Stewdaddy87]

Dunno how I missed this 8 months back but this podcast ep was/is a banger…they all are but glad I finally caught this one.

[@dannyjones]

Round 2 coming next month 🤐

[@jenniferblack216]

This is my 2nd podcast on this channel in 12 hours. WOW, I have so much to think about. A brilliant example of a productive conversation!

[@lukelombard6140]

Lucien greaves is a veteran and invovled with the gulf war the desert storm since the 9/11 your stupid dude and your a what satan cults , guess what my brother served in that war and not your kind of a person invovled with satan desides he is not satan like your kind im invovled with paganism and you know what ? I astro projection and sovleing the trafficing of children or missing children and helping out the FBIs has well they test me out that im not jokeing jerk .. try again and lied about something i know your trick and your books of 666 one of your kind give drug a minor jerk . Nothen to say other then your but nothen but shame !

[@RQ-8883]

Stumbled across this podcast and so impressed with some of your guests and the valuable discussions. Thank you guys 👍👌👏🎉

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

Idiot

[@davemccombs]

He's literally just a boilerplate youtube interview guy lol

[@cocilrow3902]

this format with 4 people is really engaging, love to see more of it

[@JennyThePhilosopher]

Andy and John did an awesome job reining in Julian and Danny! They shared great info and perspective. I follow Andy, and this was my first time watching KONCRETE podcast. There were too many times in the beginning that Julian and Danny wouldn't let John and Andy answer the damn question that I almost stopped watching. Danny and Julian, it's easy to stop interrupting--just try it!

[@jarrodfodemski1018]

Really enjoyed this. Getting a chance to see how Andy applies his thinking to these topics gives me a lot more hope for our country than I had 2 hours ago!

[@joeschmoe435]

I'm sorry, but it's that kind of naivety that takes away all hope I had for this country

[@Timbaldwin-hc4gg]

True. People spend hours trying to offset media mindset of how unsafe our country is by watching spy films, It's like they're trying to get peace of mind. . some solace that we're winning the war on terrorism, despite the news feeds. Watching Andy should be mandatory in the educational system, even if just an hour or so ! Now, I fully know how safe we truly are. There are hundreds going to bat for us, thwarting destruction and misery on a daily basis. Wow ! Great peace of mind , Thank You to all the "silent sentinels of peace ".

[@Carleon.]

KONCRETE PODCAST IS ON ITS WAY UP EVEN MORE! I DONT SEE HOW YOU GUYS DON'T ALREADY HAVE OVER 5 OR 6 MILLION SUBS! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK & KEEP GRINDING! 💯

[@JulianDorey]

^^^Cant emphasize this enough

[@Carleon.]

@@JulianDorey MAN THEY'RE SO UNDERRATED IN A GOOD WAY THOUGH! SOME OTHER PODCASTS JUST KEEP UP IRRELEVANT GOSSIP & NONSENSE! DANNY & THE CREW ACTUALLY HAVE GUESTS WITH SUBSTANCE!

[@funnydonor9484]

It’s because Dan Jones is not good. And he’s supposed to be the good one. It’s his show

[@brianredban9393]

Bob Lazar interview. Without scumbag jermy corbell

[@FarmerStickman]

@@funnydonor9484 @Funny Donor idk that's your opinion alot of people like him and I do too, I definitely like Julian more and love his podcasts but I think Dan still does a good job, he definitely could improve in some places but I personally still think he's okay and like him. But like I said that's just your opinion n same with me, just my opinion aswell.

[@phl_knives]

Very good listen. 3 hours working on an order and was absolutely immersed in this. Great discussions

[@bonnieklapel1825]

I really think this podcast and Andrew and Jim are great and I’m so glad that they are talking about all the stuff they are talking about. You guys rock!

[@joshbolding4844]

Recently started listening to KONKRETE PODCAST because of several guests I have enjoyed from other podcasts I watch. Iv watched a couple episodes now, and I am really enjoying them! Keep the super interesting guests coming! Especially archaeological/ancient topics

[@Football__Junkie]

You should watch the mortgage fraud guy.

[@NA-yb9sj]

it's so strange to see someone like those living among us and then preach to people about kindness and consideration. there's an obvious mental disconnect there, real compartmentalization going on.

[@christophervaughan2637]

Yeah this is how I feel too. These guys seem cold hearted. They are knowledgeable and they are dealing with very disturbed people so it’s understandable how they feel and think, I guess.

[@noiseordnance]

I was in Iraq and I will say I saw things that were crazy... I was told to forget what I knew if I wanted to go home to see my family and to this day I want to know what I was in the middle of that my own country threatened to kill me

[@WTF_its_me_Kevin]

Found trendifier a couple days ago and through his channel i found koncrete. Subbed and shawn ryan is good too

[@MrGMT1992]

This was a great listen. Was locked into it for the whole 3 hours. Definitely have to have this group back.

[@Ijbvfknnn]

Agreed man, Andrew is interesting to listen to, never heard of him before this.

[@AnsonRobbins_Bodybuilding]

This is fuckin amazing. By far my favorite podcast of all time. I think Danny and Julian should be cohosts more often. I love them both individually but they just work so well together!

[@oakpineranch]

Julian is a fool. He says weird stuff and get thrown down by the experts. He’s annoying.

[@nathanjohnson6416]

Bustamante is red flag material

[@AR-21]

He's a complete douche. Convinced of his own genius when in fact he is quite mediocre in knowledge and analysis.

[@RLeezyDeezy]

Yeah ppl have been saying that since he's appeared on podcasts. And I agree

[@Ijbvfknnn]

I would say he's a breath of fresh air.

[@colezulauf8027]

“Ukraine has shocked the world with what it’s done in fighting back” as if we don’t have military personnel there giving them directions and intel, it’s not like they’re using OUR equipment. So in reality, without us, they wouldn’t have shocked the world lol

[@krisloveskristiiii]

What's your point?

[@Scottyrock1000]

This was very educational for me. Great show!

[@JulianDorey]

🙌🙌

[@errick_of_scotts]

FBI guy: We’ll give them Epstein 🫢 CIA guy: Not that “we” had anything to do with it 😲

[@carpediem9015]

Great dialogue! I love the pointing out of facts and nuance and how a single word thrown in can change the very mechanics of our thinking. Wonderful pod!

[@Growsomeballscast]

I feel like this guy is doing these podcast in an effort to restore nationalism among a hopeless generation.

[@Ijbvfknnn]

Just stumbled upon this podcast and I have to say it's really interesting listening to Andrew, dude knows what he's talking about.

[@tonyvelasquez6776]

not on epstein, who its essentially been confirmed was a Mossad asset. And to downplay the value of leverage over someone fing ch1ld3n is wild. It's not about unseating a nation state, its about making someone make small decision that benefit you to avoid having that come out.

[@mthz333]

fking insane how these guys keep protecting secrets like the people shouldnt know

[@joshuaconstable6323]

Great video as always. Ive seen some hate on previous videos but all I gotta say is keep the grind up. You get great guests and have good questions. Just keep grinding, reading and researching

[@judgegarry]

I will pledge to continue to be in the top 4% of the 80/20% population.. My first direct action was on May 6, 1970 - 2 days after the #KentStateMassacre, I organized a walkout at my junior high school at the age of 15. I've served in the military, I'm a retired Justice, sat on the boards of two NY State #2ndAmendment 501(c)(4) organizations, and was the Law Enforcement Relations Coordinator for both, (among other activist positions). My service and judicial oaths literally have no expiration dates, and are still in full effect... Thank you one and all for your service and the sacrifices that unfortunately come as part and parcel. Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum, For the Children...

[@yehnahmate.3077]

Was really looking forward to this episode, although found it abit all over the place. Too many cooks in the kitchen IMO. It would've made more sense to have guests coming from the same specialty ie - having an ex intelligence agent from the MI6 speak with Bustamante would have been more relevant. In saying that, props to the team for coming up with this awesome idea of collabing 2 specialists. Definitely something that should be done more regularly!

[@logick2]

"EX"...LOL!

[@erictheviking6832]

I listened to all three hours... You guys got me thinking and Ive actually been able to look at some things in a different manner... People must learn to get back to critical thinking... My god, many have let others think for them... Thank you, great podcast

[@ClaytonHardee]

Great podcast! Excellent guests, thank you for sharing.

[@Edithhandle]

Julian constantly checking Andrew 🤣🤣🤣

[@UserHandle0702]

Great Podcast!!! It appears to me both agents are able to contribute in ways that benefit society in a much greater way being retired than they ever could being active. However, it is only because of the insight they gained being active goverment.

[@allanchandler1085]

This was a fantastic podcast. You've gained yourself a new subscriber today. Keep it up

[@jenmolly8794]

I find these 2 guests totally fascinating. I’ve seen them before. I use to think I was fairly educated in history and current events but I guess as a Normie. I felt unsettled with the government that things didn’t make sense. Thank you for explaining. Especially 80/20 never heard of that also THANK YOU for your service! Our collective goal for this experiment has been a great life for myself and my children. Re: negative comments people- shut up get off your ass and fix it (most likely you don’t vote either)

[@morgothastartes]

if you thanking CIA and FBI for your service, you should not be able to vote.

[@remydaitch9815]

I love how those two swallow their tongue when they hit them with stuff they know.

[@alexgregg5312]

I starting watching podcasts with Joe Rogan. Then I found Lex Fridman and his interview with Andrew brought me here. You’re doing an amazing job. I’ve only watched a handful of your videos but they are very good and informative.

[@jvelazque005]

Lex is a goat 🐐

[@RealKylerFlorence]

Love these two together, hearing their input. Just wish I was able to be apart of that 20% but stuff I did when I was 19 can’t ever let me get to make a difference. Thanks for the knowledge all of y’all. Keep it up, the world needs to wake up and stop feeding the bs.

[@righteousone8454]

22 minutes in and this dude lost me. Let me pre-face, I am from Ukraine, living in USA for 24 years. This dude said "Russia owning 100% of Ukraine means nothing to the World!" Then followed up with USA "benefit" of moving military arms through Ukraine, as the benefit. Then followed up USA would only inherit a poverty stricken country that is in debt. The intent is the super abundant resources that Ukraine has, from oil under Kharkiv, to oil in Black Sea, to oil near Donbas, to coal, to one of the LARGEST reserves of Lithium (stuff you use to make batteries) on Ukrainian soil. To actual super RICH soil that is yearly exported to every part of the world. Let's see...timber, insane abundance of natural gas, and let's see quartz that is used in almost every timed mechanism, such as your wrist watch. Shell and British Petroleum were going to dig up all that natural oil from Black Sea, until Russia started the war. Ukraine is one of the LARGEST producers of grain, and many parts of the world, including Russia depend on seed and grain supply from Ukraine. Not just as an extra, but to survive. Ukraine exports to Africa. Ukraine is SUPER rich in resources. We also have Uranium from the stories I read. So yeah, that CIA agent don't know sh about shi. Let's not forget about super strategic point for Russia to control the Black Sea, and have a port that doesn't freeze in the winter. Also being protected by Ukrainian mountains against invasions. I can go on and on. Russia's leverage to invade Europe increases 1000 fold, if they ever capture Ukraine, but they won't, cause they are weak willed orcs from Lord of the Rings. Ukraine will win.

[@ImZeroDayz]

This is the best conversation on the internet right now.

[@JulianDorey]

Danny hasn’t missed in 2022

[@joshskiii4165]

“And you have the editor right there assessing?” Lmao😂. Spot on. This cia chess piece didn’t have a comeback because he knows it’s true

[@BasedHawaiian]

I know Jim is not in the FBI any longer, but it is hard to take seriously, someone who is supposed to not have a public opinion on politics and hear them suffer from TDS.

[@BladeRunner2077]

Exactly!

[@darcskies777]

Trump is/was objectively a disaster to this country. It’s only crazy to say it if you’re in the MAGA cult

[@adamjacobrogers9155]

"what were we just talking about?" Lol

[@WACKY655]

They both in on it low key

[@C_on_my_C]

A question straight into an ad makes for an excellent show…

[@JulianDorey]

Indeed

[@chyfields]

It is amazing how this simulation can accommodate everyone’s fetiches, including murder. It is up to each of us to choose between right and wrong.

[@matiasishere1487]

@@yakimawindowwashing do you even know what you’re saying. That’s not schizo.

[@matiasishere1487]

@@yakimawindowwashing one of those people who thinks sarcasm is readable. 🤦‍♂️

[@chrisbova9686]

The lies are just as deadly. And it's all lies.

[@Howl-Runner]

Interesting you chose the Arabic spelling of that word...

[@chyfields]

@@Howl-Runner Been playing too much wordle

[@kathyjosteger]

I love this podcast! I especially love the guests and coversation. I am definitely an indepentant thinker. I am always trying new things to make life better by being a leader in everything I either start/founder, if I don't start an organization I will join one that interests me and do the work it takes to be on top. I am the 20% of the 80/20 factor to make things change for the better. It was so reassuring to hear this podcast tonight that thinks like me. Thank You!