Why Do I Keep Refilling So Many Parties? - The Mad Mentor #06

This week the mentor is mad because refills. In all my days of mentor roulettes, I've never joined parties in progress so many times. I can't wait for Dawntrail to come and remove my mentor qualifications again so I can be free.
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[@soulreapercaptain11]

My personal favorite Cerberus guide is: Ay, get in the belly Better be in the belly C you in the belly

[@ciberkid22]

Mine has been: All in the belly Belong in the belly Come in the belly

[@Xerofyt]

Always thought that "ABC: Always Be Consumed" is nice and succinct. The alliance role assignments are so bizarre, the community just went for a strategy where the critical do-this-or-everyone-dies mechanic that anyone can participate is arbitrarily limited to a third of the raid in return for ... absolutely nothing. It was pretty dumb back in actual 2.5 and it hasn't gotten better with age as fewer people know how the fight works. If you know how to get in the belly and you're not currently tanking the boss or healing the person currently tanking the boss: get in the damned belly.

[@tsjeriAu]

Å dds B elly C hains

[@pedroscoponi4905]

@@tsjeriAu Boo!

[@Greenagainn]

@@Xerofyt To be fair the belly can only fit 8 people and if you try going in when the belly's full will cause you to die. As we witnessed twice in this video 😂

[@keelhaulsthingsthatdontmat3877]

After you beat that plant boss in Trust with the Twins, Alphinaud says "We can use its leaves to make tea!" Alisaie replies: "Why are you this way."

[@Qamikace]

Alphinaud would consume his enemies in a refined manner.

[@Violent_Wolfen]

"Why are you this way" says the violent version of Alphinaud aka. the annoying trope the Japanese masturbate to. The second boss in Dohm Meng (I probably fucked that up, it's the frog guy) is funny with trust when he does that pitfall illusion. Thancred, ninja teleports, Y'shtola doesn't give a shit, Alisaie being the violent bitch she is runs through it to satiate her bloodlust, Alphinaud is cautious as hell, Urianger...is Urianger (I forgot his reaction).

[@kyledabearsfan]

@@Qamikace how else do you absorb their warrior spirit and strengthen yourself whilst making your ancestors proud?

[@DaPsychocat]

Laios & Marcille coded

[@sik3xploit]

_"Your soul is mine!"_ -Alphinaud Leveilleur

[@daemongo1202]

I remember one healer dipping from an Aurum Vale run after we inspected our suspiciously squishy tank and found out he just had a Fall Guys sweater as his only armor piece, and said he didn't have anything else he could equip. Healer just kind of stood there for a second and said something like "Sorry, this is going to be absolutely miserable. Good luck!" and left.

[@lorekeepermeerah]

Can’t blame them 😂

[@MexiPerplexi]

Honestly, that's totally fair. I am NOT about to heal a topless tank in Aurum Vale

[@kaylawoodbury2308]

​@@lorekeepermeerahI left once as a DPS because our tank was a Gladiator in Brayflox Longstop, a lvl 32 dungeon. Turns out he thought job quests were pointless and didn't do any. The real kicker was he had the gaul to insult everyone and throw a fit because "he was sick of everyone telling him to be a Paladin".

[@edensaga_verse]

​@@kaylawoodbury2308I had to remind my friend to do the msq as they were at level 35 without doing most of the msq up to that point (they were an elder scrolls player) and had done a ton of side quests and the job quests so they were a paladin without doing the msq it was wild. Now they're in Stormblood content

[@kaylawoodbury2308]

@@edensaga_verse I can get that, when I was a new player I was coming off of a lot of free to play mmo's, like Flyff and Perfect World. There wasn't a lot of story to those games, they were super grindy and relied heavily on doing every single quest for level progression. Going to ARR and finding an actual main story and important side story (job quests) for character progression with most other quests being pointless except for the odd item or emote was jarring. FF14 is very different from most other mmo's. The big difference between new players is the attitude, I was willing to learn and change like your friend whereas the Gladiator was incredibly rude and unwilling to listen. Like I genuinely tried to talk him through the importance of the job quests, the gear it gets you, the important skills locked behind the progression, the importance of unlocking the lvl 30 job and he was having none of it and blamed the rest of us for him dying because "optional" content wasn't important.

[@ajp1282]

The gradual slowing of the Chocobo Theme as Cider crawled through that dungeon was peak gamer comedy. 😂

[@powerofk]

Remember, not all players who leave a dungeon voluntarily leave due to issues in the dungeon. Some have RL stuff come up and have to leave, some get disconnected (and the party waits a while before booting them), and some are straight out booted for various reasons. Also, CoD has a ridiculously low number of moves. Partly because in FF3, she literally has two moves: Particle Beam and a normal attack. And most of the time, it's particle beam.

[@howdoilogin]

They gave her more attacks and a more engaging boss fight in the 3D version. Kinda strange they didn't include her two tendril things in her boss fight.

[@thebrave9971]

There are a few attacks that 14 CoD has that are never seen nowadays, such as her super tentacles that spawn during the add phase. They only spawn if the party's damage is too low up to that point, and the tentacles attack the nearest person and apply a million debuffs to them, slowing damage even more, but the amount of damage you need to avoid doing to see them is absolutely massive.

[@fredt1983]

The world belongs to the *MAD* baby, NONSENSE AND LIES!!!

[@amaren849]

There also have been a number of DDoS attacks that have been causing people to DC recently. I think that is why Mentor Roulette is seeing a lot of fill ins lately.

[@BlanchetFlaurian]

​@@howdoilogin Didn't they in the Eden version of her fight?

[@piedpiper1185]

Spider: Why do people leave parties. Also Spider: *proceeds to learn exactly why some people leave parties *

[@InfamousResult]

The funny thing though is that the parties Spider actually *filled* into weren't even close to that bad; usually the leaver proves they were the actual dead weight and the runs go smoothly once someone else arrives.

[@cj_skywalker]

Amen, brother. It's hard to be a mentor when the students are brain-dead. I do not envy my little sister's teaching job teaching high schoolers how NOT to suck at life when they are all bent over their Nintendo Switches or yapping on their smartphones. XD

[@Nazuiko]

Cider: "Why is no one AoEing trash?" Ninja: *Dotons on the last enemy mob* *-Doton on the boss* Well someone IS AoEing... at the wrong time

[@miski6232]

@@Nazuiko Don't forget the RDM using Veraero/Verthunder 2 for single target as well lol

[@SynIronwolf]

Weirdest thing. I’m on the same world as Spider and we were running that second last dungeon for my bf’s msq and ran into a summoner only single targeting. She had multiple level 90 jobs. She kept triggering aggro for like one piece of trash and then running away with it. Died more than once before we even made it to first boss. My friend was healing but not on a class she was confident with and couldn’t react fast enough to save her. We left and re-queued.

[@JovialRoger]

Me, a non caster explaining slide casting: "You know how if you time it just right you can run or jump while summoning a mount so you are moving while it's summoned? You can do that with spells too."

[@DoppelgangerTH]

Me, who has maxed all casters twice (on two different characters): You know when you're teleporting somewhere, and you realize it's the wrong aetheryte? And you move to break the cast but it still finishes it and you get teleported? That.

[@galaz1an]

I always tell people by asking if they have an emote on their hotbar. When you're casting it's greyed out, but once the slidecast window is available it'll light up like normal again.

[@callbackspanner]

Aren't mounts the one thing that does not work with slide casting?

[@maxoweenie]

@@callbackspannerit works, just has a shorter window of time.

[@Beldhan]

@@DoppelgangerTH yeah, it's litterally this, you can litterally move at while the cast it's almost finish... and still cast the spell.

[@CallyKariShokka]

Armor related thing that happened with one of my friends: ".. (Friend)? Where are your pants?" "Accidentally sold it." "... how, there's a buyback" "There's a what?!" and then they got the first pair of pants that dropped in that duty

[@ShiroShishi]

Had a friend who gave away ALL HIS EQUIPPED GEAR for Company Seals and he didnt know until he got out of the window to see his naked character lol

[@DuskTheBard]

"I sold all my clothes and now i just have underwear and boots."

[@cute_death8361]

@@ShiroShishi hate when that happens XD

[@SorasShadow1]

i've done that with desynth cause it's the only menu in this dang game that doesn't let you filter out things that are in a gear set. i desynthed a bunch of melee gear for jobs i don't play in DF content and went to do tribal quests on SAM only to realize i was nearly naked lmao.

[@SorasShadow1]

@@ShiroShishi did he learn about filtering out items bound to gear sets after that

[@MasterShanicus]

On the 'Tutorial NPCs' thing, that is in the game! If you run a dungeon solo with NPCs, they'll comment on enemy mechanics, encounters and safe spots for attacks; when you've got Named NPCs with you (Scions, story-relevant characters) they'll even do the mechanics differently, showing how different classes can handle different things (and also muck up the mechanics on occasion to show what happens if you stand in the bad; Alisaie is probably the best NPC to take when you want to learn healing, she is *terrible* with mechanics and has died on me several times before because she'll just stand in the bad greeding casts).

[@Xenmaru00]

Urianger in Malika's Well. He will literally stand in the first boss' AoE's CONSTANTLY, to the point where he will very realistically die and cause a party wipe. it happened to me. i was quite displeased.

[@Ladywizard]

@@Xenmaru00 ugh! leveling him was so much pain... not sure how I finished shadowbringers trusts... still gotta deal with Est for EW as a melee

[@rbbird42]

She's a true dps. It's the healers problem to keep her alive. Hence, never bring Alphi with her because he'll always save her before you.

[@lorekeepermeerah]

Honestly I prefer playing with the npcs here lately.

[@abdavey]

yea main reason why i always pick yshtola

[@toperishtwice]

I have had a 50+ minute heroes gauntlet, where I had to slowly explain every mechanic, multiple times, while the tank would walk 3 steps forward and stop for 30 seconds, blaming his ping. He DC'd at least once. It was his first time so I didn't feel right initiating a vote kick. We wiped on Necromancer once, and Berserker twice. The Healer refused to stand in the ditch to avoid his room wide cleave, said it was dumb. He then complained about how dumb the mechanics were after we finally finished and said he couldn't wait to forget how to do these fights, and the other DPS and I said they usually repeat mechanics later on in similar forms, so you should make sure to remember them. All at 3 am. That was a few months ago, and will easily go down as my worst dungeon experience. Hell, even the 32 minute Heroes Gauntlet on Saturday wasn't that bad, it was just a single pulling tank and we wiped once on Berserker cause the Tank stacked during the rubble phase with the healer. With 2000 of these, you'll eventually get some goobers lol.

[@CulturedDegenerate]

And that's why I don't queue for any roulettes past midnight. They call it demon hours for a reason lol

[@Strider1321]

God, reminds me of my cursed run of that dungeon. I was tank and the RPR kept teleporting ahead of me to grab ads. I don’t really have a problem with this normally but this guy was extra annoying. Anytime he died on a boss he would say “Sorry, I’m just racist” like it was the funniest joke in the world. On the last boss him and the healer died by stacking while DNC and I survived. Had to wipe due to lack of heals and they then failed the mechanic again. I explained the mechanic and we got to crater and they didn’t do that either. Wasn’t risking a repeat so I explained that one and he said “Thanks Grandpa.” I told him to stop as a new player replaced the DNC. Finally beat the boss and he says “gg gramps” and immediately leaves. I was just mildly annoyed but that was an easy blacklist

[@DacianGradaMusic]

oh no, adding that to the bad dungeon list then LOL I feel we'll have more and more instances of 71+ duties with pretty bad players whenever the job skips are on sale; for some reason people who skip refuse to use duty support which would be the perfect way to learn the game at your own pace as you grasp the basics of your job and the stuff enemies throw at you without being a nuisance to anyone. If you don't care for multple jobs you can even never do a dungeon with people at all, only trials. Buy crafted gear, some tome pieces you can afford with the MSQ drops and soon it'll be just poetics, but nope they queue right in and even blame random stuff for it...

[@kzorander8577]

@@CulturedDegenerate if I didn't queue past midnight, I'd never get to play with real people. Going to Materia in the wee hours had been helping for a bit, but I think people have already forgotten they could visit.

[@TwiceBornStar]

@@DacianGradaMusic had the most surreal experience a couple days ago in level roulette, queued into gubal library with a first timer AST in full unglamoured cryptlurker, so obviously job skip. i'm tanking and seriously struggling because he refuses to use anything but regular helios even though i'm the only one taking damage. we get to the demon book, he's eating every AoE, dies on the ice disclosure phase, but we clear anyway thanks to the RDM in our party, and the AST *instantly* leaves. as we're sitting there waiting to kick debating whether it was a DC or deliberate ragequit, i check his search info. 17 jobs at level 80. all of them undoubtedly skips. i check his page on lodestone and see he has shadowbringers msq minions despite never clearing gubal, meaning story skip too. even assuming he got them on sale we're talking over $200 in skips alone, plus the game itself, plus dawntrail pre-order (he had azeyma earrings) i can only assume he migrated from something like WoW where buying skips to current content is the norm, but given how fast he gave up after dying once in a HW dungeon, i doubt he'll survive endwalker content, assuming he'd even sit through the story he has ZERO context for. just baffling.

[@Miss.Eclipse]

"If the last dungeon [in DT] is the villain's backstory, I'm gonna be very upset" Well, what do you know lol

[@PhoenixDowned]

It's getting a bit ridiculous now lol

[@FinalDragoon]

If 34 minutes is your longest dungeon, then you have yet to experience true pain.

[@Gloomdrake]

Considering the limit is 90

[@NokoFace]

I've never gone past 45 minutes. Not because the group clears before then, but because if I'm coming up on the 30 minute mark and we're not even at the second boss I'm just gonna dip and take the penalty. Call it toxic all you want, but I've got better things to do that sit in a dungeon with people who spam AoEs on bosses for almost an hour when trusts can do it in 20 minutes.

[@MissBeloved__]

​@@NokoFacelol I dont think that's toxic, in fact I feel you

[@mist666999]

Pre-Heavensward Labyrinth of the Ancients took an eternity. It still has the 2 hour time limit leftover from back then.

[@Erythnull]

I recently was tossed into a Lab run where they were stuck on Behemoth for 45 mins

[@Slipfish]

"Whatever happens, happens." "... I got shot."

[@SniperKing-O]

🤣

[@chernobyl169]

I've left a duty once, and only once. The fire alarm for my apartment complex went off and I had to evacuate.

[@deice3]

Classic "brb fire". Right up there with "brb tornado"😂

[@iceman3317]

Yeah I usually don't leave a dungeon... I think the one time I did, I had to use the bathroom baddly or because we just weren't getting anywhere. I think the only time I really 'raged' was the Hydalean Trial of EW. Not even EX.... but people just could not comprehend the mechanics... I think I stayed in groups like 4 or 5 times and they ran the entire timer down and the last time I was just so done with people not learning the fight when most was simple. And I ended up just doing it with NPCs and did it in the first try.

[@marcelor.m4108]

@@iceman3317 i've already had bathroom emergency and i yell, oh please wait, bathroom emergency lmao they always wait

[@Croach193]

The only time I’ve ever left a duty was when I somehow ended up in a party with the three only toxic players in the game. They were all friends, I guess, but one of them started berating the tank for the way they were playing, so I stepped in to try and defend them, and then all three of them, including the tank, started going after me. So I was like “Nah. Not dealing with this.” and just left.

[@Beldhan]

never leave a duty.... even if it's become painfull.... like one time where i tank as paladin and the healer die at each boss.... and we have no one to rez... and i end to beat each boss with a samurai that i have kept alive while tanking.... the samurai was playing super well only taking the unavoidable damage was insane. i didn't kick anyone and didn't even say anything bad to the healer.... was only having a blast but it was reallly reallly painfull. and i have countless story like this.... like healer telling me i'm a paladin then i have to heal myself... didn't scream or anything i did basic pull.... one group at the time. did take long to finish... and the healer was screaming at me because i wasn't pulling enough, while refusing to heal me at all. or another time a healer (one more time) that was pulling instead of me...i'm the type to powerpull.... i have often traumatize good healer to push them to them limit... i did save him 1 time, 2 times.....third one did look at him die. strangely even the dps didn't move.

[@ninponighthawk]

slide casting tip: put an emote somewhere on a hotbar, when that emote is dark grey moving will break the cast, when it turns light grey you are free to roam.

[@MidnightPausch]

:o

[@YuubiTimberwolf]

That is genius!

[@IrideaeSnowbloom]

Noted (thank you)

[@lizardizzle]

As a scholar of eld, in 1.0 the meteors and star shower were already a set-in-stone feature of some sort of ancient event related to the echo, which was under investigation by Minfillia, collecting others who experience the starshower as she has. The 1.0 trailer features the player experiencing an echo vision of The Empire's fight with Midgardsormir and the releasing of aether from Silvertear Lake in Mor Dhona, including the spirits, powers, or souls of the primals (or it was a vision from the Echo that the Primals would be some sort of will of the planet). These events were presumably linked in some way. The Echo showed people a star shower and told them to "Hear, Feel, and Think." All these basic plot points were constructed from the very beginning and could not be changed. Now, we have a starshower to remind us of The Final Days, an echo of the past granted to us by Hydaelyn in hopes of planting a seed in various people to overcome despair, especially the soul of a long lost friend. The starshower itself, from when The Final Days first attacked Aetherys, is streaks of Dynamis energy interacting with the currents of Aether above the planet. The Watcher on the moon tells us that there are places that the aether currents are stronger and weaker, and the Dynamis can pass through the weaker areas. Where weaker, the sky would light ablaze. This whole plotline probably wasn't part of the original plan for the starshower at 1.0's initial release, but the visual kinda just had to stay.

[@theAessaya]

The icon for FFXIV on PC is literally the Meteor!

[@lizardizzle]

@@theAessaya Yes, in ARR the icon is Meteor, but before that in 1.0 it was just the game's original boxart image with an orange border.

[@theAessaya]

@@lizardizzle Neat, I only joined at around mid-HW, so never participated in the 1.0 stuff.

[@CrystalBearer20]

Re: The Final Days The ancients freaked out so much they made the meteors the first time with their creation magic, and Meteion was like "Cool, I like it" and added it to her future apocalypses. Also Hydaelyn used the meteors to remind people they used to be 5 times bigger and 14 times cooler.

[@AzureRoxe]

The creation magic created the monsters, not the meteors.

[@tayamanan]

​@@AzureRoxe I thought they created both because it was their worst fears being created and giant world ending rocks falling from the sky is terrifying.

[@BhudhaLovesBudlight]

@@AzureRoxe correct, it was actually Sephiroth that created the meteor

[@drewgregory4079]

Mostly they were setting up for story beats that just ended up getting written out. Endwalker was originally supposed to be 2 expansions, the first of which would have covered everything from the start of the expac through the moon, with a heavy focus on Garlimald. Zenos was being set up to be the big bad of that expansion where we'd cap the story with a climatic battle on the moon. As the development continued and 2 expansions worth of story got merged into one expac, cuts had to be made for runtime and one of those MAJOR cuts was the whole setup with Zenos having visions of the starfall that was being done at the end of Shadowbringers. A lot of content that was being telegraphed in Post-Shadowbringers ended up not getting paid off. The Lunar Primals (reduced to a fleeting mention in and around the tower of Zot), the Starfall as a major connection to the ancients/Azem, the Telophori as an ascendant faction of sundered ascians freed from the yoke of the unsundered, most of Zenos' role in the story, even the proper showdown with Zodiark got heavily cut back in order to make room for everything that happened after our return from the moon.

[@TransTaey]

@@drewgregory4079 Intriguing... where can I read about this?

[@icarusavery5691]

In regards to the Final Days, a friend of mine suggested that the reason there's starshowers is related to the explanation given for why Zodiark was summoned. The Endsong's most obvious physical effect was the stagnation of atmospheric aether currents, and an astral-aligned (aka dark-aspected) primal was necessary to restore their energy. The element of wind is astral, tilted towards darkness. The element of earth, meanwhile, is umbral. Meteion's song screwed up the aether of Etheirys so much all the wind-aspected aether in the atmosphere turned into earth-aspected aether. They weren't actual meteors, it was *literally* raining rocks.

[@Nazuiko]

This, basically. The meteors were spontaneously forming above the earth and the sky was, quite literally, on fire. The most common description of Amaurot's final days, besides the abominations, is the sky burning. First its a feeling of dread, something unusual, which caused monsters to appear, and as the monsters grew in number out of control, the land became blighted and the sky began to burn, and finally raining meteors

[@kiiturii]

watching that bunnygirl ninja press the most random buttons in the most random order was very entertaining

[@iceman3317]

I don't think she was even pushing buttons.... I mean I literally didn't see any ninjutsu at all aside from her ground aoe. And her attacks were very slow.... even if you are a clicker, I am, you don't have much down time as a ninja.

[@iambecomegameend2972]

I really liked the full health Second Wind followed by point blank ranged-attack at 31:31.

[@InsanityReborn]

I liked all the autoattack animations. ALL THE AUTOATTACK ANIMATIONS. YE GODS.

[@kieranowens5346]

Probably a bot

[@kiiturii]

@@kieranowens5346 that was my first thought but the movement definitely didn't look bot-like, and usually bots have messed up names, basic characters and no glam

[@purpsnurp3746]

I had potentially the worst Snowcloak run of my career. I was leveling my AST and I had a warrior so I got excited that I didn't really need to super heal, but that was my first mistake. the WAR enjoyed grabbing enemy aggro, like, REALLY enjoyed it. He enjoyed it so much that throughout the entire dungeon, the only button he pressed was TOMAHAWK. No mits, no normal damage combo, JUST tomahawk. I didn't even think to leave the dungeon, I was just so completely baffled that the tank was doing this.

[@thesabotagedandovershadowe8423]

that is so fucking funny and baffling i dont even know if i would be mad. just...confused LOL

[@Riplee86]

That is...baffling. Like, I discovered recently that tank's ranged attack generates tons more threat than the standard attacks, but to use only it is really strange.

[@Gravewhisper]

I hate Snowcloak as healer. Somehow I always get players who straight up refuse to walk out of the icy winds and that is almost impossible to heal spam against.

[@ditzyhere3138]

@@Gravewhisperand then they run back into it when you rescue them from it.

[@feelsbaraman4713]

Just as an fyi, Warrior doesnt get the button that makes you “not need to super heal” as you said it until level 56, so anything arr theyre just a normal tank

[@insanusregina]

I lost it at the monk not having pants on. I was crying laughing for a solid minute

[@Riplee86]

Healed a Brayflox Longstop (hard) once where the monk kept lossing 60% of their health every time a group wide aoe went off when everyone else was only losing 20%. Turns out they were wearing full crafter accessories.

[@Nazuiko]

the worst part is, when she finally put gear on it was... Palaka gear. FROM THE DUNGEON. Which means she very well may have not had striking pants/hat and just got extremely lucky with loot

[@berrymage.]

@@Nazuiko when she put them on, they were already glammed over with the Dalmascan Draped Bottoms. this isn't necessarily a counter to your statement, since it's entirely possible she had a pair of those bottoms in her inventory and manually projected over the Palaka pants with a glamour prism. but if that's the case...girl you have no pants, worry about glamour later!! either option is funny to me.

[@marcelor.m4108]

it's for better kicks, no pants, no hold on movements lmao

[@Kat-xy7fm]

@@berrymage. Pretty sure you can't glamour anything in dungeon

[@laceyclark311]

Queues up as WHM for healer in need. Queue pops, it's Holminster Switch. Get a PLD DRG DNC. DNC is new and in cutscene, DRG emote spam slaps the DNC. Gate drops, PLD is off to the races and so am I to keep up. PLD pulls big, but stacks all of his mit and rotates it poorly. Not like Rampart+Shelltron, it's your classic Rampart+Sentinel+Bulwark kind of stacking. I run out of resources, including Benediciton, before the first wallpull finally dies. DRG and DNC aren't hitting their abilities, and I thought they were going to save for the extra spicy pull before the first boss. I was wrong. PLD pulls to the wall again, stacks mits and poorly rotates them. DNC and DRG do not hit their abilities to boost party damage and extra mit. PLD also continues to stand in aoes, and dies. I cannot salvage this pull, we wipe. I apologize and wait for the three of them to return back to the start. It takes them a bit. They were probably talking shit about me being unable to handle a pull when all they had to do was use their ducking kits and keep out of the bad. 3/4 of the mobs are still alive when we get back to the pull. Had to resort to another use of Benediction on trash cleanup because PLD continued to improperly mit and stand in aoes. We clear the pull, and the PLD plays the 52 vuln pickup game. PLD doesn't mit for tankbusters even with 7 vuln stacks. 3rd dump of Benediction on the tank's gaping chest wound. I have to dump everything to keep this tank upright as WHM. Clear the boss, realize the dungeon was going to take longer than 30 min. I ate the penalty. Additional psychic damage: DNC popped dance partner on the DRG for only 2 seconds on the boss and then immediately took it off. No Tech Step, no Battle Litany, no sharing Eye. Suffering is real.

[@KeavyGoesLive]

As Gunbreaker, I had to use Superbollide TWICE ON CASTRUM to salvage the run. The pain is real.

[@keysmashwarrior5057]

As an DNC main this hurt my soul and will give me nightmares

[@LunoInaba]

Being white meguca is suffering.

[@xela4854]

Bet the tank had mediocre gear too. Holminster switch is one of the harder hitting dungeons, so getting a cursed group for that is awful.

[@Riplee86]

Oof. I did Holminster as tank the other day. Halfway through the health of the first wall-to-wall pull, I realize the DRG is afk back at the start. I end up burning through most of my mits on the first pull because it took so long. Guy doesn't come back in until we are on the first boss. After boss, DRG runs in the OPPOSITE direction as we leave the boss room. They run all the way back to the start before realizing its the wrong way. I stand in the middle of the path after clearing 1 trash pack just waiting for them to catch back up.

[@Apollad2]

The boosts were recently discounted if i recall, so the massive influx of people single target attacking are probably people who have heard of the game, spent 5 minutes doing the introduction, said '!@#$ this is boring, skipping to the good stuff', boosted to 80, and have no idea what they are doing. 7 mins in, right after first boss screams 'vote kicked' This is also probably why dungeons are taking so long, the new dps just don't know what the hell any of the numbers even mean.

[@AzureRoxe]

There NEEDS to be a way to prevent newbies from buying boosts.

[@InsaneDragoniteHD]

I don't care if someone boosts,just as long as they read their toolkit and have somewhat idea of how to play x class. But I'm sure a lot of these people aren't doing that lol

[@Nazuiko]

@@AzureRoxe the funny thing is, when you log in after using a boost the game is all "Hey idiot go to the hall of the novice and learn how your stupid job works" imo it should also teleport you TO the HotN for emphasis

[@firesoy]

I have recently had bards not casting songs and scholars not shielding, its extraordinarily frustrating. Was allowing Xbox players a mistake after all?

[@MissBeloved__]

​@@firesoynah theres inexperienced players on any platform

[@JimmyDoesSomething]

"Every job has mitigation" DRG: *Looks up from the ground*

[@ChaoGuy2006]

Backflipping out of an AOE is *technically* mitigation

[@Yesnaught]

Feint

[@MissBeloved__]

feint

[@Liquefaction]

Dragoon fainted

[@Tengokuchi]

Backflipping off the platform isn't mitigation.

[@Divine_Lin]

Mad because mentor

[@knightzix_01]

mad because small

[@knightzix_01]

everything falls

[@knightzix_01]

ever so small

[@Shade2019]

Grand Cosmos was my worst dungeon experience too. I wasn't even a mentor back then, but experienced enough to give a few pointers. I was tanking in DRK, and while things were going slowly, it wasnt until the first boss where I noticed that our DNC didn't use Dancer Partner. Whenn I asked them about it, they said someone once told them not to use it... no idea why anyone would say that, but it stuck. I told her that that was just horrible advice and they put it on the other DPS. I don't quite remember just how slow the trash packs were, but it was slow enough. We pull up to the second boss and no one else knows the mechanic obviously, and also just don't learn. Just like you said, if there isn't something right in the moment to tell them what was happening and what to do, they wouldn't do it. Even after I explained it to them between tries, it was still too hard to do. We needed 6 pulls for that boss to go down. At this point I was locked in and didn't want to leave these people to their fates, and also had a bit of a sunken cost phalacy going on, so I stayed when I clearly shouldn't have. The trash packs go fine, but the last boss broke the camel's back. Even though I explained to them that what the blue fire is, how to get rid of it, and not to burn stuff with the red fire, we just couldn't do it. They kept dying time and time again, and as DRK i had too little self sustain to solo the boss after the rest of the team went down. After another 6 pulls that just didn't see any improvement, I was at my end and queued the vote dismiss. 3 seconds later I was in the loading screen, knowing that my last 56 minutes and 53 seconds were complete waste. But I did get this story out of it I guess.

[@Tolly7249]

Hey, Thancreds Water! I ran into him recently during the cross-continent testing, had a great time partying with him! Hi man, hope you're having a good time! I love hanging out with the NPC impersonator players, they're all *incredibly* fun to hang out with.

[@TransTaey]

One of my better friends is a Themis, they're pretty incredible! ^^

[@Reialine]

I encountered him not once, but also twice queueing on Crystal Tower and back in early endwalker on a dungeon roulette. Very memorable guy.

[@lilwyvern4]

Hypothesis for why you keep getting Stone Vigil: 40-50 are slooow levels, even with post-game armory bonuses and XP boosting gear, it's just a ten level content drough. Odds are solid that you've long since cleared every sidequest levelling up other jobs. Add onto people wanting to speedrun ARR on alts, and Coerthas being the dreaded MMO drought segment, Stone Vigil comes up more by the sheer weight of probability. Everyone wants to get through those empty levels, and levelling roulette is probably the fastest way to do it, especially as a DPS class. Your other options are Palace of the Dead, FATE grinding, or trusts/command missions, none of which are as time efficient.

[@Riplee86]

Honestly, I kind of prefer command missions for that level range, especially when I was leveling a few tanks. Grab 2 Arcanists and things just kinda explode.

[@charlesinman6595]

45 - 50 and 61 -65 are the worst gaps to me, those levels seem to take ages to get past.

[@firesoy]

yeah around 39-51 is just agony it's absurd

[@Tengokuchi]

Huh? I was getting a level per dungeon. It didn't feel any slower than the other level ranges.

[@MrLightlike78]

34:20 Leanan Sith or Sidhe is a beautiful fae creature- In Gaelic folk lore she acts as a muse for artists who then become infatuated with them and drives them to madness and eventual death. Considering the setting it's actually incredibly fitting.

[@paddyofernitaur6459]

Watching multiple mentor roulette creators and seeing level 80 sprouts who bought discount skips, those poor babies, but they're so funny.

[@DoppelgangerTH]

And then cbu3 is like: yeah we're thinking about allowing new players to skip *the whole first arc* for free so they could start with dawntrail. Dawntrail dungeons if they do it: pls not a high lvl duty in a duty roulette😢

[@HannibalStorm]

wait until you play with people that have bought maxed out account, but have 0 knowledge of anything

[@neema.420]

I don't think they're "poor babies", I think they're annoying. If you buy a job skip, at least watch a guide on how to play it

[@JulesVante]

13:14 a really good trick to learn the timing for slide casting, is setting a big emote key that you can see. The moment the emote goes light up to use, then you can move. If it’s darkened, then you’re still casting. Eventually you learn with muscle memory the exact moment, but it’s a good trick when you’re just starting, or changed the internet speed and your latency changed

[@vxscop]

I absolutely think this week’s increase in backfill was because of the sale on class boosts(especially because so many groups were not super familiar with their kit). I haven’t left an instance yet, not sure what would make me if I ever do

[@Neroseki]

Well, regarding your question, as someone who left a dungeon today while leveling Astro, being told "Low heals should stick to NPCs instead of REAL players" by the tank after a first wipe does not make me want to stick around and figure out what went wrong.

[@gruforevs]

the average tank is freaking trash and has a head the size of a blimp, I generally will not queue for a roulette unless I or someone in my party is queueing as tank because a bad tank can just make a dungeon absolutely terrible. Source: am a tank main

[@Nightstriker995]

@@gruforevs I've had tanks that don't use mitigation abilites, tanks that refuse to aoe, and tanks that don't put their stance on, tanks that use all their mitigations abilites on a small trash pull, then they have none for boss don't know whats going on lately.

[@dolcebeat6759]

Something similar happened to me yesterday.

[@KeavyGoesLive]

@@Nightstriker995I’ve always been the kind of person who WANTS to be better, to the point where I ask other party members if they know my role (Gunbreaker) and can critique my performance. The idea that someone would take on the responsibility of Tank and not care to learn how to optimize themselves makes me want to feel sad but then I remember I’ve had bad players in every role and some people just don’t care

[@Geekezf]

@@Nightstriker995 Hey, lmao, it's me for the "no mitigation on boss". But i acknowledge i suck.

[@ADFF14]

Most times I've seen healers (and also a lot of mentors) bounce is either because they don't like the content or it's going too slow/there's too many mistakes. Sometimes a bit o' both. In the case of the former, especially if you're a mentor, I consider this a bitch move (I believe that's the professional term). Suck it up, grit your teeth, and you do that Aurum Vale or Dzemael run. For the latter, I'd personally stick it out, but depending on the circumstances I can understand if a player leaves. If communication has broken down, or just wasn't there in the first place, and it's looking like you genuinely can't or won't progress, it may be worth calling it. And if you're also dealing with toxic and aggressive player/s, you automatically get a pass, no questions; you don't and shouldn't have to put up with other players who just make you miserable, and I wouldn't blame you for leaving.

[@Gravewhisper]

honestly only ever seen people either leave instantly at the start, which I usually take as "guess they really hate World of Darkness", or someone disconnects and is eventually booted because waiting 5 minutes for a relog is the limit for what most people will tolerate. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone actively leave in the middle of a dungeon run.

[@afrothekobold]

all of the times i left it was either real life stuff came up or my connection was horrible, and in the case of the real life stuff I told the party to kick me because something came up. the only two times where I thought about just bailing was one dungeon where the tank was just talking shit to me the entire time because I wasn't the best healer in the game who eats ultimates for breakfast (after the dungeon was done he fucked off and both the DPS in that run said sorry i had to deal with that) and the other time was when I think tam-tara hard where the sage didn't use Kardia and them and the other DPS (who was a mentor) had a 40 minute argument about it, a half hour into it the sage just alt+f4ed hoping we would just kick him, but the mentor told us not to because it wasn't a DC, and when he came back they continued to argue. the tank and I just sat and watched.

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

​@@afrothekoboldThat's basically why I avoid becoming a mentor. The bad ones ruined it for those who want to actually help. The only time I do register as a mentor is if someone asks to be in the mentor channel (god forbid) and then I resign shortly afterwards. Thankfully, it's only happened once

[@silvertayuun]

0:58 you spotted a rare moment that Thancred isn’t afk dancing in Sharlayan!

[@vxscop]

I’m pretty sure that’s a different Thancred. I usually see Thancred’ Tsukino in the Gold Saucer on Saturday and in Sharlayan every other time lol. There’s also Thancred’d Waters

[@bernardoguerreiro9740]

@@vxscopbrynhildr lore goes hard

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

​@@bernardoguerreiro9740RIGHT!? I remember when I transferred to Brynhilder and was confused seeing a dancing Thancred. I was eventually told the origin story but I don't remember it due to bad memory

[@ohmyoof3pizzaman205]

I saw him in balmung once in the quicksands naked (unless it was another one)

[@DeadSpaceWing]

I'll take that over the /pdead Black Mage Lalafell in front of The Immortal Flames kiosk in Exodus.

[@warrenpeace0]

The slow deaccelerando of the music as you went through that one painful dungeon was tragically hilarious

[@TransTaey]

I was looking for this comment lmao.

[@mifdsam]

Spoiler alert: Meteors are significant because that's what unlocks the power of the echo. Apparently, it's basically a trigger for everyone who is a sundered ancient, because they're something that the soul associates with the final days. As for why they appeared during the final days? I'm not completely sure

[@captainmurphy4948]

Endwalker tells you. I mean... It's literally her name.

[@trevorg25]

I feel like that Grand Cosmos fight, there are a lot of people convincing their friends to start the game and buy the skip cause it's on sale.

[@robomega3893]

Almost every time I've ever had to refill in a dungeon, its not because someone bailed, it's because they disconnected and the group kicks so they can keep going.

[@relogos]

What did I learn. - Look at the eye - Run away from the arrow - Orange = Safe - If its pulsating it needs a hug

[@amaren849]

Also, I queue as DPS and I get the most EXs that way if you want to attempt it! I have noticed that a lot of sprouts queue into EXs as healers and tanks. It's risky, you still might see them, but I at least get 1 or 2 a day.

[@thesabotagedandovershadowe8423]

yep, if you can put up with the queue time, its WAY better to play as dps. much more likely to get actually enjoyable content, like raids or extremes. playing tank or healer is basically begging for a one way ticket to praetorium, which im shocked he hasnt seen a lot of

[@amaren849]

@thesabotagedandovershadowe8423 queue times for me are anywhere between immediate or 10 mins. It depends on the time of day really. But I also do things around the house and art while I wait, but if I am having good queues, I see 10 roulette within the same time he does as SCH. Though a lot of the times I do get guildhests which makes that time faster. One of my friends has tried mentor roulette as healer/tank and it's been MSQ or low level dungeons. I rarely see a dungeon. It's a lot of 8 man content and fill-ins. Also, DPS is comfy so I don't mind waiting! The highest level EX I have gotten was Shinryu. xD

[@pinkiefluff735]

The older I get the slower my reaction times get and the less I understand certain mechanics myself.. but man, videos like this gives me hope

[@pldcanfly]

I left once (but came back later) in in an alliance raid. I died 3 times and pretty much rage-quit. What happened was that my anxiety got triggered really hard there since I didn't know the content and that made me really angry at myself and everything. I'm not proud of how thing just overwhelmed me and put me into a state of shivering... I can hardly find word to describe that feeling. It's the immense pressure of thinking you are being judged by everybody, even if you know that thats not true. Like you know how you are reacting to people doing things, especially if they are sprouts. It's "whatever" most of the time. But at that moment i had this existential fear, pretty much and my mind converted it into rage to protect me from that fear of being judged for not playing well. That snapped. But I came back 5-10 minutes later, after i calmed down. This was the last time I went into random content without watching a guide beforehand or having it played in duty support once. Knowing whats coming and not getting killed by "random mechanic 300 I didn't know was a thing", is what relieves a lot of that anxiety from me. Only place I don't have that is with my static, but we do content with the mindset of 6 people going in blind and learning along the way. Also those are known people where my mind can't go "They are judging you!", because it knows better.

[@Amooseable]

Watching the PLD in the Grand Cosmos run was tough to say the least. Legit just doing 1 2 3, no Atonement, no Holy Spirit. When they used Requiescat, they at least used Confiteor, but then none of the Holy Spirits. Rough

[@Chichaetomate]

out of all the ways the mad baby had died... today she died because she was too big...

[@Kafaldsbylur]

It's so weird. The Ninja in Grand Cosmos used Doton a couple of times, so clearly they know what AoE is, but also one of those times was against a single mob, so what was going on...

[@Riplee86]

I still keep seeing the occasional NIN who drops Doton on single mobs. Did the Porta Decumana where the NIN kept Doton up most of the time.

[@dragumkirisute1998]

Judging by the enmity list in that dungeon, they either had no idea what they were doing or had a bot try and play for them. Just a guess.

[@Corvus7159]

​@@Riplee86 It's possible they're reading older guides from when Doton was actually a potency gain over Raiton if the target stayed in it the full duration, and never once questioned it. I ran into that exact situation in Decumana a while back. Or just think more inputs = more damage.

[@Liquefaction]

@@Corvus7159 ugh and flamethrower and bioblaster on bosses >:(

[@tripleaaabattery8480]

​@@Corvus7159wait, full duration doton doesn't do more damage to a single target than raiton? Holy crap I've been throwing in trials

[@gregorymarquis7641]

Thank you! I haven’t unlocked all the content yet to do the mentor roulette. This gives me hope today it’s not as bad as I fear. Love the commentary along the way.

[@NostalgiaChan]

I can't remember if I've ever actually left a duty, but I do remember a time I came very close. It was a run of Dzemael Darkhold, and our tank was being a turd through most of it; not using stances, sometimes not even attacking, trolling in the party chat, the works. I can't remember if he suddenly bailed or if we votekicked him, but we waited for a while for a new tank to show up. Just when we all considered bailing, the healer asked me (a Monk) if I'd be alright trying to tank so we could at least keep going for a while. It was rough going, but we managed to get through and eventually a proper tank showed up before the end.

[@MilesTormani]

Out of sheer idle curiosity, was this healer a scholar and did they respond to the tank's nonsense with "I could just stop healing you"? And was the other DPS a summoner?

[@NostalgiaChan]

@@MilesTormani It's been years, so I definitely don't remember the party makeup, unfortunately.

[@CiderSpider]

Gamers of the world, what's the best way to tell someone they aren't playing their job correctly?

[@kiiturii]

stay silent and pass the responsibility along

[@calebunderwood6380]

Aggressively

[@cjedwards1234]

"hey bestie, just letting you know..." is my way if i muster up the strength

[@kevinmonzel]

I was taught to phrase it something like "if I had some information to make your job easier would you like me to share it with you?"

[@TheGameKat]

Unfortunately that depends sensitively on the nature of the specific player, which you typically don't know until you offer advice and they tell you where to stick it.

[@Hgdrifter]

Lmao, loved how the music kept getting progressively slower in Grand Cosmos

[@siyrean]

Im a healer main, If there’s someone with an attitude problem, I’m out. The moment people start fighting, I leave. I won’t say anything, I just quit. Years of WoW has given me zero tolerance for BS

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

Basically me when we wipe several times (unless I'm running with a sprout, then I stick around). I'm lenient with sprouts but veteran players I'm not. I don't react with hostility either, I just tell them that it's late where I'm at and I leave. Unironically, it's usually the truth, late night here is usually where the cryptid players emerge

[@socklips7655]

@@chelsthegameruiner8669 "They mostly come out at night....mostly"

[@pedroscoponi4905]

The fact that you queued for the last one after that Grand Cosmos run is absolutely impressive and terrifying. That's one of those runs that would make me clock out early for the day.

[@kampfh7150]

"I'm not hating" Brotherman, when people are doing lvl 80 content and NOT aoe'ing, you're allowed to hate. IF you made it close to the end of the pen-ultimate expac without knowing what you're doing, you deserve slaps

[@purplefreedom1631]

Endsinger: "the same fate, again and again and again..."

[@KatotsuSama]

"You need an NPC running behind you called 'Noob Teacher' who yells out what you need to learn." Wait, are you talking about Guildhests? Oh my god, you're talking about Guildhests. Remember Guildhests?

[@PenguinSage]

Always love the P8 quotes in these videos. They are always so widely aplicable for so many situations.

[@sweepingtime]

Parties are like glasses, you must needs refill them with delicious Cider.

[@kittycatzuka]

I thought for a second you meant the kind of glasses you wear on your face to help you see, and not the ones you drink out of. 😅

[@Kaimariification]

For context: I'm a FT sprout, so I will never be able to become a Mentor but if anything I did during the run I describe below was similar to what they go through, Hats off to all you doing it. The last time I left a party was a few days ago during a Prae run. Was the last run I was going to do that night before going to sleep, so I thought it would be quick and went DPS. I ran MCH and the party had a WHM along with a tank that I could tell off the bat were new. We made it through all the way to the end before hitting the wall, but along the way the signs were there. WHM would rarely cast heal spells (used mostly cure 1 or 3 on tank and rarely case Cure 2 on group), barely used holy on groups and when I asked if would use Medica 2, they said they didn't have that yet(even though WHM gets the group AOE regen before Prae). The tank did alright with small group pulling, but would spam all their mits at the same time in boss fights and stood in the mechanics like they had unlimited tank abilities. The tank did alright till we got to the last two bosses. Both the Tank and WHM would run away from everyone when they would have stack markers on themselves or would stay away from the person with it. I tried explaining it to them that when that marker shows up, everyone groups together to spread the damage, but the info didn't take. Either one or the other would be right out of range of the marker while the healer would stick to the bare healing while standing in the mechanics. I got to witness the bosses final sword attack reach 100 at least three times before I had to go. That was three out of the five times we died and those were the closest ones. It was one of the times I wished FF14 had a similar mechanic like DCUO that has each player have access to two different modes and can switch if need be so long as they have the gear for it (I.E. You choose if you are a tank/healer/controller [debuff and power regen] for your class and can switch between that or DPS) because the healer and tank were trying but did not meet minimum requirements for the run. Before I left I wished them all well, suggested if they couldn't beat the run this time to try it in Duty support as DPS to see how everything goes, or see if they could get others to help them through it and teach the mechanics. I felt bad about it, but there was nothing either myself or the other DPS could do (I even used potions and that only gets you so far.)

[@cyanmage1]

you can get crafter/gatherer mentor done with before you even hit endwalker its so easy all my alts have it just use ishgard restoration to level up then spend a few hours getting collectables and you can use the tomes you get from that to get gear so you don't really even need that much gil to do this

[@Kaimariification]

@@cyanmage1 Maybe this message was for another comment, or I probably did not explain it all the way. When I said I am a FT sprout, I mean I am a Free Trial player. We can't become mentors since you have to hit level 90 while our max right now is 70.

[@robowolfzane6666]

"Gembreaker" is the title earned for complete "one golem to rule them all" job quest for blackmage

[@Sianostrakarenrenren]

"If the last dungeon of DT is the villains backstory I'm going to be mad." Mad because small gets madder.

[@kiiturii]

28:23 based, people will be like "A= Adds, B = Belly, C = Chains" then I'm one of 3 people going belly as a C, and the third guy is an A, it genuinely does not matter who goes, you just need people in there (also you need to be minimized before stepping on the puke lol)

[@karenpojar2514]

A = all in belly, C = c u in the belly.

[@ashensage7968]

But he's small already! (joking XD)

[@deice3]

I usually follow the rules of A=Always belly, B=Belly, C=Choose belly. I have never had a situation where too many people go in belly. And you get out in time to do chains. So worst that can happen is the plants run amok a little on the outside. Whereas belly group not doing their part can wipe you, or worse, take ages.😂

[@Slayerlord13]

What I tend to do is kinda check roughly how many people have gone into the belly, then usually decide that not enough people are inside and hop in myself as well. Unless I'm specifically alliance A's tank, in which case I will be taking those adds so they don't run around killing healers and stuff.

[@Yesnaught]

As I once heard it: B = Belly A = Also Belly C = Congratulations, you're Belly too

[@Shibamanda]

my mnemonic for remembering the Qarn end puzzle is "spicy grapes". i didn't come up with it, someone in a party mentioned it before and it was amazing. thank you, whoever you were. even though it doesn't really matter i guess 🤔

[@firesoy]

the magical fruit of Ul'dah, *_b e a n s_*

[@xLeopanther]

Mine is simply taking the 2nd letters L and R. F'l'ame and F'r'uit - left and right.

[@ErakirPompop]

World of darkness owns~ I'll take that any day of the week. Love the music, love the fact we're not massively over geared for it so people can and do die. I'll be honest, sure - I leave fairly regularly, but probably for reasons others don't. I pass time with trial and raid roulettes a lot, I'll often do like 5-15 of them a day. I like helping people through the more difficult ones, I know the most wipe-prone segments of every fight from doing them so often, I know how to mitigate them and recover from them. I live for the 22-minute pull of a normal trial. Rescues, snap heals, cover shenanigans, intervention, all that. I'd hate that slog of a dungeon run you got near the end, but I'd also love it. If I can drag a party kicking and screaming to a clear, sign me up let's freaking go. If I get enough fights that I consider boring in a row however, I may leave immediately cause... Well, I'm seeking some engagement. I'm not seeking pressing glare even more often than usual because P1N is the most snooze inducing fight in existence especially on a healer. I'll leave A2 and sometimes A1 for how tediously ho hum I find them, but I'll sit there and happily grind out A9 for players or drag a group kicking and screaming through a blundering o11. I started leaving halicarnassus after a mogtome event over a year ago because I got so sick of the fight, like eating the same meal everyday for a month. Anyone replacing me would usually love to get what's considered a free or easy fight for their roulette. You guys can have the king thordan snooze fest for daily rewards - put me into hydalaen, I wanna see sparks fly~ win/win, as usually trial replacements come fairly quickly anyway. - Leaving mid-run though, it's rare but it does happen. I can think of one dungeon run where I left after the first pull in vanaspati leveling AST as damage was so bad and the tank was horrendous enough that I burned through every CD I had on the first pull, and then it lasted 40 more seconds. How often do you get to detonate a full earthly star twice in a dungeon pull? It's gotta be pretty bad, but sometimes I'm not in a great mood *and* you roll like, some of the worst of the worst. Sometimes, rarely, just don't want to put up with it. Honestly it's only happened a handful of times since ARR.

[@JolyEpsin]

my first ever cider spider video and laughed my ass off while having flashbacks of most of the runs i've had the past 2 years as a healer main lol

[@Zaqster]

Near the end of last week, I had several times a mentor roulette like "oh I'll just do one quick..... " *35 minute striking tree extreme*

[@tiffanycosset]

Seriously, I wish sprouts would stop queueing for Striking Tree Extreme for a bit

[@Zaqster]

@@tiffanycosset Well they gotta learn, might as well be there and then. (also because it's one of the first times you need to manage stacks of something and tethers or you just die. Lots of pressure on tanks (with tank swap!) and healers and even dps.

[@tiffanycosset]

​@@Zaqster that's fair enough, I just find party finder to be much more productive for extremes, but it's as you say. And agreed, it's harsh on the tanks and healers a lot more than anything they'd had to do before that! Feels satisfying when it works out at least. :D

[@tripleaaabattery8480]

​@@tiffanycossetapologies I'm gonna be queueing into it to clear it... if it's any consolation I understand the pain

[@Sarcasticmoocow]

The first time I healed a dungeon as an Astrologian I said "Hey! First time healing on this class, would appreciate smaller pulls!" I got told off for "being toxic and trying to control how other people play" and then the tank deliberately made the run as hard as he could. Honestly? I don't understand why any healer would put up with that. A polite request for an easier first run is not toxic. -_-

[@FinalVeralism]

Totally reasonable request 😊

[@InsaneDragoniteHD]

That's completely reasonable, that tank is a dick.

[@Gravewhisper]

Sounds like you ran into an ex WoW player :D But seriously, buttholes exist, sadly, though luckily it seems to be a rare thing. Most tanks I run into actively ask how much they should pull, or at least ask if they should slow down, when they realize their health bar is in danger. There just seems to be some players who actively try to start drama because they get a kick out of claiming they will report you for harassment. Best to ignore them, there is nothing to be gained from arguing with these sorts of people.

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

I usually pull small until given permission by the healer to do bigger pulls. I acknowledge that healers can effectively put my ass in a Saw scenario if I anger them. Fear the pissed off healer, they got a reverse bear trap at the ready for all asshole tanks they may encounter

[@keybladebanditjing]

I once had a healer who said to me at the start of Pagal'than, "hey, tank. I'm tired as fuck and want to feel something, don't mitigate at all." I didn't. No one died, and it was a fun run. lol

[@kaylabella119]

"how did she get in here?" is going to ruin me for the rest of the night. I couldn't stop laughing for a full 5 minutes and started crying

[@amaren849]

I have also been grinding Mentor Roulettes and I fill more duties, but also I have been in a few "Abandon Duties" mostly because we ran out of time on an EX and people aren't getting the mechs to clear it before the time was up. But think my favorite fill in was yesterday when I arrived in P10; the time remaining was 50mins, someone left, someone was being vote dismissed and then everyone left leaving me and another Mentor SMN. He explained that the DNC was possibly greifing and people didn't do the tower mech. There were 3 wipes and I showed up. We finished the fight with all new people and not one mistake. lol

[@rensenisteros4823]

my leaving a dungeon story the most notable time i ever left a dungeon run was in cider's 'favorite' dungeon, stone vigil. i was doing leveling roulettes at the time to grind lvls on one of my dps jobs. i ended up in a party with a grouped up tank and healer lala's who spend THE ENTIRE DUNGEON rping. taking the time to mid fight type out entire paragraphs and emote. even while the boss (the first one btw) was busy actively killing them while they stood there emoting and typing things. every time the tank would die the healer would WALK over to them, poke them, type out an entire thing about them sleeping (it wasnt a macro cause it changed each time) before then beginning to slow cast res them... we wiped on THE FIRST BOSS 4 times... me and my buddy didnt give a damn that we would be locked out of content for 30 mins at that point... would have been quicker than that literal brain rot of a run.

[@R4d1o4ct1v3_]

Honestly that's the sort of thing I'd report for trolling. RP is not an excuse for wasting the time of unwilling participants in cooperative content.

[@rensenisteros4823]

@@R4d1o4ct1v3_ the issue with that is there really isn't any way to report people for that. The only report option I know of in game is to report people for rmt activity. So it was either suffer it, or leave. If there is a report ability i totally would've.

[@R4d1o4ct1v3_]

@@rensenisteros4823 there are options to report people for trolling/harassment/etc, but they just aren't very user friendly. (Square's support/account features seem to have been designed by a high school student in the 90's doing amateur web development on the side xD) You basically have to go to the support elements in the main game menu, find a form and fill it out. - A more paranoid person than me might think it was made difficult on purpose to reduce their CS staff costs :P

[@IrideaeSnowbloom]

​@@rensenisteros4823there's no quick report function for anything aside of RMT. You gotta go the long way through the ticket system. *After* the dungeon iirc.

[@Anergyne]

I abandoned a duty exactly twice: -First time people were being loudly and proudly bigoted, and I felt deeply uncomfortable. -Second time I got a call from my brother saying my mom was in the ER after a bike accident. In both cases I felt justified leaving.

[@Tolly7249]

Both absolutely circumstances where I'd do the same. Family comes first and nobody got time for bigotry.

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

I remember a guy calling me slurs back when I was playing the free trial so I didn't know how to report people. For some reason, he thought I was black so I stuck it out until the end of the dungeon. When we finished the dungeon, I said "by the way, the proper word is cracker. I'm like Casper the Friendly Ghost with how white I am." then I promptly left. I'd imagine he felt like an idiot after that and I'm sure he's likely been banned by now by someone else. The other players thought my comeback was pretty funny though. Thankfully, I never had to say that again since that incident occurred. I probably shouldn't have said cracker but I saw no issue with it since I'm white. I could've maybe scared him by speaking in German, though

[@ArceusShaymin]

@@chelsthegameruiner8669 Honestly, most funny response possible. No one would've blamed you for leaving, but you stuck it out and stuck him with a haymaker at the end. I hope your journey through Eorzea's been a fun one!

[@Megalink81]

Your comment in the alliance raid at Cerberus got me rolling, I was ready for the standard Adds Belly Chains and I did not expect what you said.

[@griffinhornraven8258]

Was doing leveling roulettes with a friend sometime a year or so ago during the WoW Exodus in Shadowbringers. I was AST and he was a SAM. We got put into dungeon run and filled in for the healer and dps that had left. Only the tank, a level 70 PLD since it was the only job they had unlocked, was left from the original party apparently as the BRD was also filling in. It was the old Stone Vigil and they'd been in there for about 15 minutes already, but had somehow only made it past the first 2 ad packs. We quickly learned why that was the case. The PLD would use their enmity ranged attack to pull a pack and then hit provoke off cooldown, but would only single target one enemy from the pack. They also wouldnt turn on their tank stance at all. We tried over and over to explain that your stance should be on the whole time. They said that it was only for bosses and lowers their dps, so they weren't using it until they had to. We also tried to get them to get the aggro from the other enemies using their aoe combo and pull some of pack off of me as I healed. They raged in the chat and told us to just slow down our dps so that we wouldnt get the enemies' attention, and that I shouldn't have aggro because I shouldn't be dpsing as a healer. If I stopped dpsing, then the enemies would ignore me. I humored them and didn't dps the next "attempt" at the pull, and sure enough, I was killed pretty quick. They started yelling in the chat again, telling me to listen to them because they "know how these games work" and that if I "pulled my head out of my ass" and stopped lecturing them, then we'd be done by now. They were convinced I was still dpsing and thats why I died. Of course, they would die several times too since they wouldnt wait on the party to catch up after a wipe before pulling the pack again. We'd all stand on the sidelines until the enemies left, and then I'd rez them only to get an earful about us not stepping in to help and that being the reason they died. After not progressing for 20 minutes and not even reaching the first boss, I assume they saw my search comment saying I was trans or something since they began calling me and my friend homophobic and transphobic slurs whenever they'd die and screamed that people like us were the reason this game was failing. We vote kicked them right after that and finished the dungeon in less time than we'd wasted doing it "the right way".

[@honeydarlinggaming9156]

21:33 Warrior at that level can cycle regens and mits to the point you can survvie almost infintely once you run outta platforms.

[@dragondragon8463]

Something to watch during maintenance

[@MissBeloved__]

hah first video of yours ive watched, i like your personality kinda vibing w the video. good work

[@vigo2669]

The NIN in that Grand Cosmos run was just happy to be there. LOL

[@DarkCalx]

Watching the Grand Cosmos run, as a RDM main, was painful. Seeing that player hardcast Veraero and Verthunder against a group of enemies, using AOE spells against a boss, using Acceleration and then proceed to cast AOEs; I was starting to pull my hair out

[@lemeres2478]

Pantless monks is the hope that saves mentor's roulettes.

[@Herrell_]

Fellow mentor grind here - I documented all of my 2000 runs and I also kept the "party in prog" option on. I learned that almost all of the ones I filled for were either A) Going to take more than 30 minutes so whoever left just took the 30 min penalty B) Party failed mechanics xx times C) Disconnected (sometimes on purpose) or D) Had to go IRL for xx reason. I got in the habit of asking so I could mark it down and those were the majority of my responses :) Out of all of my mentor runs, I left over 40 of them due to some reason or other. About 500 in I started to do the "Vote Abandon" option instead.

[@wavypavy4059]

Recently I was due for my regular reminder on how much stone vigil sucks if the healer is still using their starting accessories and has maybe only done braflox's longstop, the one previous level 30+ msq dungeon, since unlocking scholar.

[@smol-raVee]

I left a Seat of Sacrifice Trial once, namely cause one person was trolling the button mash thing and if 1 person fails that you wipe, and we had already wiped like 5 times on it and everyone was getting pissed explaining it as most bare bones as possible

[@ryanwright9390]

Just started mentor roulette myself. Up to like 15-17 clears. 2,000 might not ever happen. You’re out here doing the lord work! I wish I was on your DC so I could get randomed into stuff with you so I could see myself on your vods!

[@Taigon15]

one of the best slide casting tips i heard was if you put an emote onto your hotbar. When the emote lights up, you can move and your spell will always go off.

[@flagrama]

I've left a raid I got on roulette before. A Neir raid that after the first two fights I realized there was absolutely no way I was going to finish before I had something to do IRL. I also took an embarrassingly long time to realize AOE actually did more damage _overall._ Just _looking_ at the potencies they seem weaker. I didn't realize they were basically per enemy rather than total until I started looking up information in the community as I started into Endwalker.

[@robertrappaport3610]

Caught that MNK in the middle of their ERP rotation

[@Vrinara]

"You were almost a Popsicle!" Barry Burton: "You were almost a JILL Sandwitch!"

[@Somewriterprob]

I'm very picky about voice overs when playing games, but you're casual enough yet funny that i watched the whole thing. I started cackling when you were playfully picking on single target bunny girl and the dungeon that 'if i had a choice to stay or go, id go. 4 minutes to 30 minutes in this dungeon..'. Her misuse of abilities just had me rolling pretty good. Listening to you while playing the game myself. Great content, subbed! :-)

[@neema.420]

I've left a duty a few times. The first was actually my first sastasha run, I started out as a healer and didn't know targeting other players is a bit different than targeting npcs (I'm on controller), so I kept targeting the mobs instead of players. Someone wrote "heal??" in chat, and I just left. It was actually kinda traumatic, I've done most of arr dungeons with npcs after that. Other times I left include dps continuously trying to tank, a mentor getting mad at me for not doing a mechanic I didn't know, and a dungeon where people kept standing in the bad and blamed me for not healing enough. There was also a court of troia run when I should've left, but stayed because I wanted to continue the msq. The tank not only did single pulls (lvl 90 dungeon!), but rp walked in between them. And then they didn't wait for my cutscene at the end. I was so pissed

[@Morsbih]

One time I went afk mid dungeon, not in ff14, because a few minutes in my ceiling collapsed and knocked me unconscious. Computer kept running lol

[@anthonypietra3410]

Your bit in the stone vigil really reminded me of the variant dungeons. At least Sil’dihn Subterrane, where Nanamo was narrating all of your boss fights and pointing out mechanics for you

[@Xenogsaga]

You can also check when your slide cast is ready if you put an emote on your bar. It will grey out and when you can move it will light back up before all your other GCDs and abilities.

[@HakureiIllusion]

18:51 - 19:42 *Alexandria has entered the chat*

[@Caramaram]

I once had to explain to someone in The Twinning that AOE was actually higher potency because you were multiplying by the number of targets you were hitting. I despaired that day.

[@MaximillianGreil]

Ahh my therapy video. It's so nice seeing Cider slowly become as jaded as the rest of mentor roulette runners lol.

[@ArtandApoc]

Returning player here. Been gone for quite some time. Thank you for making me take another look at Arms Leangth. I had not paid it much mind but I heard you mention it and I had some rando in a dungeon mention it so I gave it a closer look. I remembered seeing that Arms Leangth slowed. But I always thought that was movement speed but when you mentioned you did not want to be slowed for a manual cast of Res I decided to go out and test Arms Leangth on a mob and sure enough... I get why its a thing to be used outside of knockback and draw in situations. Tank main for refrences. So I suspect my healers will like me quite a bit more once I start using it.

[@Fiishe]

I've noticed many healers leave for two reasons, either tank pulls too much and they can't handle it so they leave or have an attitude and are kicked. Or the opposite where the tank pulls too little and it's a healer who wants big pulls and doesn't want the dungeon to go slow. Another reason is probably an experience player getting low level dungeons and doesn't want to do them so they (for some reason) take a 30 minute queue ban over a dungeon that at max can take 20 minutes

[@cutejustice]

In the healer’s defense… dungeon content is completely brain dead for healers because they have like 1 dps button and 1 dot so when a tank does small pulls it’s just… extremely tedious. With large pulls, there’s a variety of skills they can utilize. So them leaving is kinda ff14’s fault lol

[@OriginalCreatorSama]

@@cutejustice Spoken like a true tank main smh

[@Fiishe]

@@cutejustice agreed that pulling small pulls is tedious especially as a healer main myself, but if you are a mentor this is your job to help new players and give them tips, tell them they can pull further if they're comfortable or let them know about their mitigation buttons so they get comfier and comfier and eventually they start doing wall to wall pulls out of instinct. Your job as a mentor isn't to carry new players through content it's to help them learn and understand the game better like how we didn't starting out.

[@cutejustice]

@@OriginalCreatorSama I’m… a healer main 😵‍💫. All I press is broil.

[@cutejustice]

@@Fiishe yeah, 100% agree with you there. Was just commenting mostly on the design flaw around healers right now and what could also be contributing to healers dropping out.

[@wiz-bit]

So this is where everyone comes during maintenance >.>

[@Gamemaster-64]

[@blooberriee_]

“I’m gonna eat this I don’t care” No truer words spoken by a healer

[@giorgialine1442]

Just picturing that monk running around, realizing about the same time as you did that no, this is not a dream, they actually don't have pants on.

[@valkyrie1328]

0:57 Lol I've seen Thancreds Water around the Gold Saucer on my Brynhildr alt.

[@Weenie_Slayer69]

I’ve seen them in vesper bay once on lamia lol