The Extreme Fight that Mentors Hate - The Mad Mentor #07

It was only a matter of time before we got an extreme trial. Does The Great Hunt REALLY count as an extreme, though? Well, this week in Final Fantasy XIV my mentor roulettes took me to some interesting places. I got a few fun things for the first time, and some familiar places too...
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[@SkydreamPony]

4:18 - Your laugh is just wonderful, ngl. This bit made me smile so much :3

[@thecrowonyourshoulder]

Shout out to the sprout tank disconnecting for blessing us with this laugh.

[@mooncake7446]

his laugh is so cute :3

[@Lunar_Crescentfall]

Deep smooth voice, has a cute laugh I love it

[@Raisera]

I'd rather call it strangely evil. Which I am fine with.

[@QuarticalPhysics]

12:10 Lancer: *dies horribly* Cider: No one takes damage at all!

[@thehermitwizard]

I mean, they technically didn't take damage, they just died.

[@rtiq270]

and "they didn't even need a healer" as the same Lancer dies again immediately after being rezzed

[@rustyjones7908]

No one who matters took damage!

[@spectreofspace]

Lancer ga shinda!

[@sugoistalin7809]

It's just a lancer, nothing of value is lost.

[@vulturee6844]

HE FINALLY GOT AN EX LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

[@cj_skywalker]

Too bad it's the WORST Extreme trial that you could ever think of, the Monster Hunter dragon. XD I tried that fight with a good party, and I still wiped. Rathalos eats noobs for breakfast, lunch and dinner. ;p

[@CI254]

@@cj_skywalker I might be in the exception but I'd rather get Rath than pretty much any other EX.

[@atempolaris]

@@cj_skywalker Calling Rathalos the worst EX is funny, it's basically the easiest one out there.

[@gabrielyamatoy.matodraw5570]

​@@CI254 same im with you

[@idgie534]

@@CI254 Yeah I'd rather have Rathalos for sure, it's really not any different from the normal version. It's fun on DRK too because I can get endless TBN pops from the stacks.

[@Jon_the_Wizard]

Can confirm, some people find Scathach hot. Source: Me. I find her hot.

[@sugoistalin7809]

Based king.

[@wingedcatgirl]

Another thing about the "healer strike" is that a strike only works if it has specific, meetable demands upon which it will end. "We're on strike indefinitely cause shit sucks" just isn't enough.

[@robertlamb5091]

The only "demands" I've seen boil down to "take all the non-healer healing away and make healers do more damage." While I agree that a lot of the tank self heals are getting out of control (War Main here) I think more heal checks and varied mechanics would serve better than trying to nerf or remove things.

[@Rotaretilbo]

It also really tickles me that the vague demands we do get are things like "give healers more DPS", a thing they are already doing and have expressed interest in continuing to do, and "make content harder", a thing that YoshiP has already explicitly said they're going to spend this expansion working on. Like, what a time to decide to hold this stupid strike, ahead of the expac that is already doing half the things they were demanding in the first place. I'm reminded of an anecdote I heard, that YoshiP apparently asked a group of people, presumably at one of the 2016 FanFests, to raise their hand if they wanted harder content in Stormblood, and most of them raised their hand. Then he asked people to put their hands down if they hadn't completed the Midas (Savage) tier, and almost all the hands went down. Probably apocryphal, but I do think a lot of the people saying things like "savage can be trivially solo-healed" (a real thing I did see posted in the healer strike thread) or gesturing vaguely at the fact that highly organized statics of some of the best players in the game have managed to clear ultimates without healers (another thing I saw posted in the healer strike thread), probably have no idea what they're talking about, when it actually comes to game balance and difficulty.

[@KaguyaEne]

@@Rotaretilbo Fun fact, the original thread poster for the strike has never completed anything past Extremes. And I wouldn't be surprised if most, if not all, of those clears came after they all got Echo.

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

The craziest thing to me is that this started because Xeno and his friends (known endgame players) cleared a dungeon at the media tour. I'll forever say this, endgame players are a different breed of player compared to players like me (I aspire to be a good endgame player though. It'll bring back fond memories of my Destiny 1 years. I still remember two-manning Crota with a friend back in middle school). I'm definitely down for harder dungeons so long as it doesn't interfere with story progression. The strike to me at this point though just feels like these players are more jealous of the endgame players and so are trying to get classes like Warrior nerfed. A friend of mine who I told about this said it best: "Why the hell are those on strike demanding the skill removal of a class's kit? That seems incredibly counter intuitive and will only harm the game's health in the long run."

[@AschenDog]

Aren't potencies kind of beefy in the early build anyway...

[@rasenpapi5653]

the only issue with roulettes is one you cant really solve: over-saturation of ARR content. just due to the fact that there will always be more new free trial players doing ARR stuff and the significant portion of those players who dont really continue passed heavensward due to burn out/ lack of interest generated. if every new player did actually play through the full msq then repeating ARR content wouldnt be as big of an issue. however there really isnt a way to guarantee people continue with the full game

[@GrimViridian]

Yeah that would have saved me from an awful labyrinth raid experience, me and my wife who didnt underst the mechanics were left to rebive ourselves multiple times. Luckily the other two parts went much better but me and my wife were just kinda following and doing our best while everyone else rushed it XD

[@TheeChaste]

@@aSmolGoth also the fact that trial plays *can't* set up a PF so they do what they can and queue

[@MeTaViToRFeNiX]

I'd love to see a colab between Cider and WeskAlber. The Scholar main that hates Dragoon teaming up with the Dragoon main that hates Scholar, it would be awesome.

[@The-Nomad1]

Dragoon? What's that?

[@MeTaViToRFeNiX]

@@The-Nomad1 Thats code for "forker"

[@Xenmaru00]

@@MeTaViToRFeNiX Nidhogg's about to get a *serious* ass-forkin'

[@BiscottoPlays]

On the Gaelic thing, I can only apologise. Us folk with Gaelic speaking roots get really touchy when someone dismisses the language considering the whole history of oppression thing. And I ain't saying they're wrong to get mad or anything, but some of us forget its well within peoples rights to joke about it ESPECIALLY when it's a part of history that isn't really taught. And thats obviously assuming the folks correcting you even HAVE gaelic roots to begin with xD

[@rustyjones7908]

They can go eat a potato and drink some whisky and shut up

[@KiryuuYoshiya]

as someone who used to play a catboy gunbreaker before converting to the bunboy reaper (soon to be viper) cult, we are built different. the healer strike reminds me of when people got super mad about the wow mythic dungeon invitational being ran without a healer, because speedrunning extremely high level dungeons is definitely indicative of the average person doing regular content or something

[@ashensage7968]

That's my thought too! Just cause some guy solo'd it as a war doesn't mean every tom dick and harry can or will do that? Man I can barely solo a boss fight as anything other than a war. I'm just a filthyy casual that plays for story and making friends XD

[@Rinaldot67]

Episode 7 out of 200 complete! That genuine laugh in Dzaemel was delightful. It may be the most joyful any player has ever been while trapped in that hell dungeon.

[@thatdragonperson]

I liked the little psa about Free Cure being a scam because I deal with white mages in expert roulette constantly who fish for Free Cures who get really pissy at me when I tell them not to do that, that it is a waste, and told "just stick to tanking and let me focus on healing"

[@IKMcGwee]

As a white mage enjoyer, I'm sorry for your pain.

[@ol-Daddy-doodoo]

At that level they shouldnt even be casting cure 2 outside of emergencies lol

[@mavfin8720]

On my WHM, I actually have Cure II on a macro key, with Cure I below it. The ONLY time Cure I can get cast is if Cure II doesn't exist, really. So I don't have to walk into Sastasha and screw around figuring out why I can't heal anything...

[@Gloomdrake]

God, everyone should be forced to try every role, because that “focus on your job while I do mine” is always so annoying when the person who said it is actively making your job harder by doing theirs wrong

[@WreallyWren]

I was in Pandaemonium earlier and my jaw dropped as my co-healer was actually casting cure 1. Just why? Almost as shocking as when I watched a red mage hard cast a res

[@DacianGradaMusic]

They tried something new with the MH collab and it's an interesting take on a trial. I had my fun grinding it for the mount back in the day... Good times. Surprisingly never got it in mentor roulette... yet.

[@thekawaiiginger7840]

It’s only a matter of time, save yourself

[@ElliottFenton]

Coolest thing about it is it translates any existing monster hunter knowledge into the fight it’s really well done

[@PixelHead777]

FFXIV trying to run on MH logic definitely worked way better than MH trying to run on FFXIV logic.

[@TheVenhammer]

@@PixelHead777yeah the behemoth fight in MHWorld is so awful, monster hunter is not made for aggro in the same way as final fantasy

[@ClassyCrustatio]

It's very unique. The only thing I wish they added was a block duty action, maybe with a 15 second cool down. Other than that it's a fun trial with the perfect integration of MH mechanics.

[@fredt1983]

If seeing a sprout enjoying Tam hard for the first time and the like stops bringing a smile to your face aren't you just done with FF14 in general, heh.

[@howdoilogin]

"Three sprouts without job stones" What? That's clearly a Black Mage and Summoner icon. Only the tank didn't have a stone.

[@TrueChaoSclx]

Summoner? That's just Arcanist 2

[@CaptainThief]

@22:50 “My brain is on cooldown” Perfect way of putting it.

[@SoraShadowdancer]

"I have this really bad habit of misjudging how long it will take to do things" . . . That'd be the ADHD honey. 😂

[@highlycaffeinated998]

10:05 the ONLY exception to using Cure I over Cure II is when you get synced to a level below 30.

[@MyVanir]

He said that.

[@silvermunkee]

If you're doing MINE coils then MP management becomes much more meaningful, so it matters there... but who does that anyways?

[@TrueChaoSclx]

I think the world first clear of TEA also had a single Cure I used in it :d

[@solarismagnum]

9:04 - Love that you are talking about the dragon that swoops down and attacks you while fighting the dragon that swoops down and attacks you.

[@iambecomegameend2972]

That black mage in Mt gulg was casting a concerning amount of fire 1s and blizzard 1s lol. Congrats on the first EX!

[@selesiars420]

people forgot that the mitigation kit of tanks and healers are balanced around you getting slapped around by Savage fights & ultimate fights. jimmy bob the dungeon boss doesn't really hit like a savage or ultimate raid boss, meaning that even in min-ilvl synced dungeons, you're still overgeared.

[@Beldhan]

more the kit have soo much changed with each expansion that the dungeon are not adapted for it. from one expansion to another the previous content become easier and easier and easier. not because they are easy, it's more because the high end stuf recquire strong kit and break everything else.

[@pedroscoponi4905]

Yeah, you just can't judge how the job balance is based on story dungeons and normal mode stuff, gotta wait for EX and Savage. All jobs are "optional" in story content.

[@DarkDyllon]

That, and also, do a dungeon with a tank doing wall pulls with 0 mits, then suddenly healers are more than crucial, but if you got an experienced tank ... yet, you might fade into the background.

[@smaller_cathedrals]

It's mind-boggling how this actually needs explaining. I blame it on all those obnoxious "elitist" content creators who do nothing but shit on "how easy and mindnumbing" the game has become, while having absolutely zero clue about what content balancing means or how it works.

[@qingdom]

26:50 - Fun fact. in FFXI, Ninja’s are tanks. they use consumable items to blink tank with the subjob of WAR set to provoke. The consumables allows mobs to ‘miss’ up to 3 single attacks if i recall correctly. and the blinks will all be used up in the presence of an aoe. It’s been so long, I forgot the specifics, but blink tanking was a thing for Ninja’s in a party/group.

[@DrakonLameth]

Yeah, SE finally gave in to that at some point, because for the longest time, shadows ate hate and ninjas didn't have anything really inherent-to-ninja for getting hate back beyond "hit it a lot"

[@OBXandos]

Ninja tanks were so broken when they first appeared. In XI when a mob hit you it lowered your threat, that is why tanks needed to keep their damage up and constantly had to use Provoke. Since Ninja's never actually got hit their threat was never reduced. Your DPS could go ham and never rip the mob off of the tank. Once your Ninja got high enough level to have both Utsusemi Ichi and Ni they could rotate shadows to the point of invincibility. Eventually Square gave in and said Ninja tanking was real tanking and acceptable, but also nerfed them pretty hard to not completely outclass all of the other tank types. That's when things like removing shadows lowered your threat and AoEs removing all shadows were introduced into the game. Ninjas had to work a little harder on their threat and mitigation. They were still highly sought after tanks but Paladins and Warriors were still acceptable to have as well.

[@nazgulrekker1913]

Dude. I love this series. As a tank main seeing and hearing how a healer likes to run dungeons and content is insanely helpful.

[@aceface3333]

"Busty women that judge you" Why's cider talking about my wife

[@terribleawful]

i love when some dumb shit happens and he laughs and breaks character you can hear his normal voice for a second

[@Glitch_Online]

30:43 last time i did as jumping baby did, i got kicked out of the ball pit at Mc Donalds

[@thegneech]

"I have this problem of misjudging how long it takes to do things... it always happens..." My ADHD senses are tingling!

[@orangemc9358]

You're not the mystical comment section doctor, calm down 😂. People have been shit at predicting the future for as long as we've been kicking around, not everything is a mental illness.

[@SkydreamPony]

ohai Gneechy!

[@thegneech]

@@orangemc9358 1) ADHD is not a mental illness. 2) I was referencing my own inability to predict how long things take, which is definitely a symptom of my own ADHD. 3) It was a silly youtube comment, lighten up Francis.

[@thegneech]

@@SkydreamPony 'sup

[@Lyoishi]

Oddly, some people can be good at estimating task time and have adhd. Adhd symptom spectrum is weird like that.

[@eiriksundby]

Rathalos was very fun to me as a Monster Hunter Vet. Because all the attack tells are the same as in MonHun. So dodging was just second nature to me. Even the little things such as how when he does a lunging bite, his tail will also swing a bit which can also hit you

[@Inhaledcorn]

It's because of this fight in FFXIV that I knew what to do when it showed up in Smash, lol

[@lovroxyz3119]

I personaly hate it as unlike monster hunter in monsterhunter you do not have a dodge ability and the game has a delay so i couldnt get the timing down, also its harder to notice its tells when your screen is filled with flashy bullshit from both your own and others abilities

[@eiriksundby]

@@lovroxyz3119 you can turn down FX. And i'd argue they make up for it because you have higher movement speed and don't need a dodge.

[@ThorindirNaari]

the fight is pretty fun, unless you have a party that cant dodge at all. Since the failstate is so brutal (3 deaths and you restart) you can easily be stuck for over a hour trying to get people to look at the boss instead of their hotbar...

[@pedroscoponi4905]

Same, I really wanna go for the EX one of these days

[@RedHoodRubyRose]

My wish finally happened, I got to see Extreme trial in mentor roulette!

[@stuartpatterson5094]

Cider: "The ninja is the tank now" Me: "Is this FF 11!?"

[@GioTrance_]

I did my mentor roulettes back in the day, and when Rathalos EX was current. I think I ended up doing that fight over 200 times in my mentor grind. I was so happy to see it over something like, Nidhogg EX or Sephirot EX. LOL

[@sinofcringe]

Every time a boss does a raid wide I hear "BEHOLD!" now thanks.

[@khrystamaxwell]

god I remember the free cure trap arguments with my statics. I had to secretly not fish for them while looking like I was (note this is stormblood days)

[@Kaligraphy22]

The rule of thumb for The Great Hunt - "If Rathalos is looking at you or even in your general direction, you get out the way."

[@Gloomdrake]

Needs a dodge roll

[@honeydarlinggaming9156]

I always look for the A in thr party list. Way easier to see. Since it changes instantly.

[@Asako_Gaming]

If melee just stick to his left flank.

[@freikugel663]

Been fiending on Cider's YT content for ages and finally popped in his live stream for the first time. Much fun & chill. He looked like Kiros from FF8 dressed in AR Caean crafting set, classy! If you haven't, you better start now.

[@JazzHands]

Legit, don’t run yourself ragged for your channel. It’s okay to miss a video. It’s dangerous to stay up til 3 constantly, I love your videos but don’t want you to suffer making them

[@6demonai]

On the healer strike, I've been in plenty of duties where the healer dies, and I'll pop my little mini heal and even pop a potion and still die, cause I'm a squishy bard. Those guys on the Media Tour are not casual gamers like I am and most of the people playing so, yeah I agree healer strike... As a squishy bard, I need you healer. Don't strike!

[@dootdootington386]

You'll be fine, healers like myself will still be there because we know healers aren't the issue with balance anyway. That and why would I purposefully make it harder on myself to que up for stuff? 1 second que is too good to give up, especially when so many people are going to be playing the new dps anyway, on top of new expansion hype, so those que times are gonna be nasty.

[@6demonai]

@@dootdootington386 Thanks doot, good to know you and other healers have got our back. Look forward to playing with you all!!

[@CaptainThief]

@26:50 “Ninja tank is the best tank!” *FFXI flashbacks*

[@adjwindu70]

14:52 i remained true to my cat boy self. Never fantasiad once. Too attached to my look.

[@capncaviar]

Can't say I've been as strong as you and have entertained the idea of switching but have stayed strong and remained catboy and will always be so now

[@Cooldrew100]

Yeah, I almost fantasia'd to Hrothgar, even made a saved character for him...but I've come to like my little catboy too much :3

[@DacianGradaMusic]

Only reason I could possibly think they left freecure to this day is that someone on the dev team is a huge Deep Dungeon fan and that strat is indeed a thing for movement and MP economy in VERY niche situations with Palace of the Dead, especially Conjurer runs. It's either that or they just don't care at this point lol

[@Gloomdrake]

When I was first leveling all the jobs, at the time I just assumed that they gave White Mage Freecure to parallel Black Mage’s Thundercloud and Firestarter, but then I realized that, unlike Thundercloud and Firestarter, Freecure sucks

[@encapturer]

They don't want to think about ARR mp economy. I stopped doing mentor runs on WHM for a reason.

[@honkedoffjohn]

Fun Fact: The Great Hunt EX doesn’t need a healer because of the pot system and because mentor roulette always ensures a healer, the other 3 players have to work really hard to kill him before everyone runs out of potions. The meta is 4 tanks which is done thru PF which Free Trial can’t use. So it’s always a bad time.

[@durpypig1731]

you can also just unsync and go with 4 dps and he dies before the burn is an issue

[@Gloomdrake]

Free trial can join a party through the finder. They just can’t create one

[@dimwarlock]

4:16 That laugh is so genuine, enought to even break character, I love it.

[@MoonmunkPersonal]

The thing I find the most interesting about the healer strike is that it inspired a lot of people (my husband being one of them) to try out healer to counteract it. Some ended up being great healers, some not so much, but in the end it gave a bit more attention to the role that was sorely needed. Lots of people doing the thanos "I'll do it myself"

[@Burred11]

Mt. Gulg is one of the only dungeon where there's a lack of a gate between pulls. Normally there are 2 groups of enemies > gate > 2 groups of enemies > boss > repeat. This has been the standard since post-ARR. But in Mt. Gulg you can pull from start to boss.

[@MaisuBirb]

Congrats on 60k! You deserve a lot more, your content is incredibly entertaining. Still can't wait for your Mahjong Journey, happy to help! :P

[@ajp1282]

0:43 : The idea of a talking Rathalos made me chuckle 🗣🐉 😂

[@Dw7freak]

There's an entire twitter account that does videos doing that.

[@NokoFace]

"There we go, there's some fire action." Yeah. Literally fire. As in ONLY fire. As in I saw maybe 3 Fire IVs the entire segment. 😭

[@vicarofdibly]

Genuinely, could listen to you all day, such a soothing voice :D Love your witty, sarcastic commentary watching you dungeon, thanks for the second monitor entertainment :D

[@carolyndonovan1694]

The way I see it is the casual content being too easy thing becomes a healer problem rather than everyone's problem when healers have so little to do outside of healing. Tanks, which can be just as obsolete with how op the healers are, at least have real dps rotations that make their job fun still even when the extent of tanking is just make sure the autos are on you.

[@valence686]

The healer strike is a little more than just about healers not being needed in dungeons. Even in challenging content they're resident sleepers. Also, 3 DPS 1 tank is optimal in dungeons, not 4 healers, and neither the standard comp, which is another issue. It was a lot harder to pull no healer dungeons runs before, and people just went through dungeons just fine.

[@Rotaretilbo]

For the future, in Tam-Tara (Hard), Paiyo's actual health doesn't *really* matter. Every time he takes damage, the boss gets bigger. When Paiyo has taken an amount of damage equal to or greater than his max HP, regardless of any healing, the boss enrages. Since each big orb hits for about half Paiyo's HP, then two big orbs is enough to instantly trigger enrage, even if you technically keep Paiyo alive with healing.

[@AngelaRichter65]

You had me at "Great Male Viera Wars..."

[@nanapyon2542]

28:38 EXACTLY THIS. While i do understand the frustration of healer mains, this particular problem isn't exclusive to them. I'd gladly welcome any nerf on the self-sustainability of tanks and any improvement on the healer role in general. It seems like the healer job is "only" fun when stuff's going south, be it in dungeon or in raids. Note that i'm only talking about casual content.

[@NatiiixLP]

6:27 "dual pitch-forkers" Ooooh... that's what the job is called, I see! I always wondered about that mysterious job icon.

[@Raika63]

I'm no black mage main, but seeing the black mage only cast Fire (1) and Blizzard (1) is painful. I feel like they'd have so much more fun with Fire IV

[@danroe3310]

I mean pre 60 fire 1 is the only option XD

[@aidanmillow566]

The thing about the healer strike (imo as a tank main) is it's a strike in protest: meaning that its goal isn't having demands met so much as bringing attention to an issue. In that sense it's working (without even being executed) because people are talking about it. Of course the no-healer dungeon run as a spark is a silly spark because it's a dungeon and they're presumably gearcapped, this is not in any way indicative of how endgame Dawntrail will feel for healers. Gear is actually a huge part of the problem for healers (and to a lesser extent tanks) because at level cap it seems to scale up at a faster rate than the incoming damage (in casual content anyway) (Smiletron, the Dead Ends and the Stigma Dreamscape were way more challenging and fun when they were the expert roulette than Aetherfont and Lunar Subterae are now). I wonder if there's room in the game for straightforward tank and spank fights that have casual level mechanics but consistent high incoming damage for both the party as a whole and the tank especially.

[@SorasShadow1]

free trial players can join party finders if they're posted *but* they're still locked at 70 so they'd be carried either way. personally i kinda hated farming rath ex unsynced in shb and only tried it synced once in my stupid mentor horse journey then vowed to never do it again. it's more interesting in the sense that you have an actual kit at 70 and it's mostly a reactive fight compared to some of the spicier ARR extremes. The biggest thing is how it'll force a wipe if you hit a certain number of player deaths so you can't even safely haul a corpse through it if they keep standing up and dying. Hell, I've had 8 man rathalos runs that're about that bad, people screaming about not being healed and ignoring any attempt to explain that they need to use the duty action button and suddenly having a *very* different combat design to work with is often just overwhelming. Truly, StB had some of the most fun fight design for normal content (and not just Rathalos!) but that's also what makes it such a fucking *nightmare* in DF.

[@Gloomdrake]

Another fun example is the Ridorana Lighthouse. The math bot is a really fun fight once understand how to actually do it, but it personally took me way to long to realize that it was checking my HP, and there’s always that one person who doesn’t remember what a prime is

[@Sentifray]

My real gripe isn’t really with casual balance when it comes to the healer strike XD I won’t be striking, but I DO think healers could do with a bit more damaging spice. Give them something to DO in dungeons aside from hitting one button over and over XD

[@youtousim]

As a wee sprout, I just queued in for Ramuh EX after unlocking it, playing Paladin. Havin to work with another tank buddy and overcoming an actual challenge still makes this one of my favourite fights till today. Thank you, Mentors. For your patience and dedication that day!

[@FubukiShiromiya]

I also say it “jraphics interchange format”

[@zymojplays20]

i have just binged your library whilst finishing the MSQ...now i am up to date it seems wrong that im doing MSQ with no cider spider

[@liz54321]

Lmfao "Don't stand there Seleene!"

[@StuffedWuci]

Healers have the worst queues for variety in mentor

[@SniperKing-O]

Cider Spider is looking rather dapper in his angry beekeeper glamour in this mentor roulette video.

[@sovest555]

The *sole* exception where you would use Cure 1 is if you are level-scaled down past the Cure 2 threshold. That said, they really should have Cure 1 be upgraded to Cure 2 and delete Freecure from the game.

[@dimwarlock]

When you asked about what your followers want to do when they grow up, about the job and whatnot... Well, I'm 30 and I've always wanted to be some sor of storyteller, I started writing when I was 15 and I have achieved several mild successes over the years, like illustrating a book, writing for indie literature compilations and even being an art teacher at a local cultural center, but nothing that will definitely save me from starvation and homelessness. It is funny that, when I meet people, they always have some kind of magical answer to solve my situation of working at a factory: "why didn't you move to the capital?" "¿Why don't you charge for making portraits?" "¿Why are you not a tatoo artist?". They just see the success, but ignore how hard is to rent a decen place at the capital while getting a gig or that only 1% of the population want to actually pay for a portrair or that getting adecent place for a tatoo studio is expensive

[@KZorander]

WHERE IS MY WEEKLY LAHABREA CUTSCENE EDIT?? I'M COLLECTING THEM.

[@captainsteve0]

Gamer hours in full effect here. I'm usually up at 3am too, but only coz thats when my alarm goes off for work. Dear lord, sir.

[@digitalash1603]

It might not be the healers only problem but we are the ones getting shit like "Oh wow healers are useless", "we don't even need healers at all", "WARs are the best healers now", etc. And this actually hurts. The strike may be pointless but its goal to raise awareness, and this they're actually accomplishing

[@slimfastsubaru2043]

We always ran it as 4 dps. When rath falls hit the body till a certain %, I forget exactly, then kill tail and rath just dies.

[@airget]

You bring up a good point about the Healer Strike, a misconception that is missed is the IL of character at the start of an expansion. Lv 70 gear, Omega, IL 400, 405 for weapon. So by level 76 you are finally getting crafted gear that outclasses it at 409 which means for those first 75 levels you are over the IL cap to take on those dungeons, so of course they tend to be easier. Rather than a healer strike, I feel what could be done is perhaps offering an incentive to have a queue option of people playing at IL, where maybe certain drops like minion/scrolls/cards will have a higher drop rate by doing the content at level rather than overpowered. Take Holminster Switch for example, at Level Sync a Warrior has 26522 HP, with IL sync it's 22853 HP, that 3,669(nice) difference does make a huge difference in terms of surviving certain pulls and the need for a healer So I think the proper route that players could take is suggesting to offer in-game perks for doing content at a higher difficulty aka less IL so that a healer is more needed for that content. Granted that's an issue with leveling dungeons as a whole, the whole concept behind them is do fast, get tomes, so speed is always key, unless SE added a reason to challenge the content at less IL people will always use the path of least resistance and if that means steamrolling content with 1 tank and 3 DPS, that's what they will do.

[@ArtForSwans]

I had to pause the video and look up Urth's Fount. I know I've only been playing since Shadowbringers launch but it still blows my mind that there are still entire duties I've never even heard about.

[@tuxedomask3483]

My biggest issue as a healer is that the """rotation""" is 1 dot, then one mash. If im with a warrior I can go a whole dungeon only pressing 2 buttons. I macrod white mage as a joke to eat my burrito and then was horrified when it actually...worked. If warrior self healing got nerfed and I had an actual combo to do Id be a happy camper

[@TheDoddler]

If you're curious on exceptions where you'd use cure 1 that would be sync coils, the single target healing is hard enough that you will run out of mana relying on cure 2. Some fights (like Nael) you need to keep the tank topped off as unlucky crits can kill a tank in 2-3 gcds, and you have almost no instant tools.

[@pngmk2]

Stone Vigil always tough as hell when tank pulling more than 3 packs, even for WHM which have HOLY.

[@Kittzu]

That's because it's Stone Vigil and WHM don't have holy.

[@pngmk2]

@@Kittzu after look again, you are right. there is exactly one time I have met.a tank brave enough to run W2W in it. We failed the first wall. We did successfully clear 2nd & 3rd wall. I spammed cure 2 like a mad mage (with presence of mind back up) to keep him alive once he spent his mit.

[@rtiq270]

@@pngmk2 Warrior gets Homgang at like 42 so they're pretty nice to have there.

[@Maria_Erias]

As a healer main, I can guarantee that about 90% of Stone Vigil runs that come up are going to be a relatively brand new DRK tank who doesn't even know what a mitigate is, and will try to W2W pull, LoS you, and get swacked because they've been a DPS for years and have seen pro tanks do it, so why can't they? About 9% of the remainders are going to be sprout tanks who will single pull every pack. And 1% will be the over-geared PLD or WAR tank who just eats everything.

[@reyennarhel2505]

Stone Vigil was the bane of my existence when I was leveling Scholar - especially because I always ended up with overeager tanks. And one time, I had an Archer (yes ARCHER)

[@Gloomdrake]

Dear god

[@reyennarhel2505]

@@Gloomdrake it was just as bad as you think. Also, I had to solo heal pepsi man in Alexander recently because the other healer just...never showed up. I kept everyone alive and no one commed me. Healers are def still necessary, but man I've had some bad healing experiences lol.

[@rightwing707]

Hate? I LOVED Endwalker giving FT sprouts access to Rathalos. It's a very simple and fun EX to teach people. Most of the time the worst I'll see is a single wipe and even then you can get away with a lot thanks to powercreep and it dies relatively fast even with new players. Phase 2 actually completely voids ALL healing. The only way to "heal" other players is with shields. As a small tip, you can keybind both Duty Action slots. They're at the bottom of the hotbars tab.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

lmao, i love the Tank strategy of pissing every enemy off & just running

[@Frimbertrips]

When I do play healer I am usually not terribly needed unless someone just decides to not move. Which is fine. keeps me busy. But when I have people on we usually go 3DPS and 1Healer and just do tank pulls. Very engaging for the healer with the constantly shifting aggro and the DPS having to actually engage a brain'cell to mitigate and/or know when to single target if they get overwhelmed. We call it the Squishy Tank Game because that's what the DPS are. Squishy tanks. I am slowly spreading STG to the masses... I think Sage and Scholar do it best because they can buff people with extra HP in the form of shields, but it is super fun to just test your limits with Astro and WHM too. Keeps you looking at who pulls hardest and makes you pay attention to who gets into the most trouble.

[@Majima_Nowhere]

I recently did the Rathalos fight just to get the blue quest marker gone. There were like 4 mentors in the party saying "oh thank God it's normal Rath"

[@IKMcGwee]

Also a trap, for Astro, benefic had a chance to make your next benefic 2 crit heal. You ever queue in and get Satasha with 3 other people who are also not in the mood? The sheer beauty of all 4 separating out in the big room, tank grabbing mid mobs, healer grabs the far door mobs, DPSs grab the closer door mobs, burn em all down. Dps open door, tank grabs and runs to the far door, the other three burn the last down and grab key by the time the tank hits the door, opens it and we through. Good times.

[@NastyMick]

Rathalos Ex is surprisingly the most common Ex I get in Mentor Roulette. And I hate it

[@sapphirelily510]

Hard same. Reading the other comments I thought I was the only one. 😭

[@litchtheshinigami8936]

dzemael darkhold is always laggin for me too. other dungeons are fine. i had a darkhold run recently that was so extremely stressful cuz i kept lagging out so bad it negated my healing causing the tank to almost die multiple times and actually die multiple times too.

[@PrinceSarah1]

What you said about kit is why I won't full pull stone vigil- not only are the corners tricky, but I know so many healers barely have any tools, a lot of jobs don't have aoes yet and the ice sprites hit a lot harder than you're expecting. It's a really sucky dungeon for so many reasons

[@PrinceSarah1]

also that ew ex1 mechanic took me a good 40 runs to get perfect xD

[@geodad4782]

I got that one as a Paladin. We also farmed it out with my FC until everyone had the mount, the pig, and enough scales to get the sets of armor.

[@Azazel226]

I've been really enjoying this series. Good luck on your quest.

[@Carwinley]

I'm absolutely fine with casual content not really needing all of the roles. My gripe with Healers, which I've been harping on about since Heavensward, is that they just keep giving us more and more healing abilities and strip away our other stuff. Either make me heal more (and make healing fun to do, with like a healing rotation or something), or keep it as it is where I spend all my time dealing damage *but make dealing damage fun.* As it is, neither part of the kit is *fun* in the way DPS' rotations are just intrinsically fun to execute, and also the part they want me to use all the time isn't necessary 90% of the time. I think the Healer Strike is misguided because people keep saying "We're not needed" and "You don't make us heal enough" but that's missing the point. The point is that Healers constantly get the short end of the stick. If you have to heal a lot, you're spamming one-note healing skills and throwing out oGCDs. If you never have to heal, you're pressing one-note damage skills and throwing out oGCDs. Neither of these is fun. So: Give Healers a rotation. It doesn't matter whether it's for restoring or removing health.

[@herohomg6630]

Oh no! The Mt Gulg black mage was using Fire 1 spam! Oh, it hurts.

[@SunChaoJun]

The thing about healer-less dungeon runs isn't that it's possible to do. It's that it is the optimal way to run them because they aren't dangerous at all. 1 tank, 3 DPS are able to clear an expert roulette dungeon in less than 12 minutes (pushing 10 depending on DPS) with no issues. Having the extra DPS means you burn through trash/bosses so quickly that your buffs might not even come back in time

[@Tsumtsumdere]

8:00 I've seen at least one person on Reddit who did a complete spreadsheet of their mentor roulette and it was quite an interesting spread to say the least.

[@bellidrael7457]

Lol I hadn't heard about this Healer Strike. As a healer main, I can't really imagine crying that 'healers aren't needed enough' when I get instant ques into all content, barely have to do anything, and yet still have the most power over everyone's lives.

[@darkmindaustin]

So, Ninja was the best off class for all tank classes in FF11, AND, when paired with SAM (which was a tank class,) was hilariously broken when they originally released those two classes. So that ninja was living his best 11 life in 14!

[@Gravewhisper]

The people who complain that healers have nothing to do clearly don't play enough with random people in casual content. The difficulty for healers comes from the skill of the party members. And the simple truth is, 90% of the playerbase could not do a dungeon without a healer.

[@codyscherer4832]

I think 10% of players being able to no healer a dungeon, is still generous

[@Hawkbreath36]

Hi, I'm the healer who's kept cure/benefic on my hotbar and will defend it. I keep 'cure 1' on 5 and 'cure 2' on 6 on my main hotbar. In calm situations i can pretty reliably hit cure 2 every single time, but in panic healing situations or under pressure it gets a bit more difficult as I am sure all of us healers know well. By keeping 'cure 1' on 5, in panic situations where I need to get the healing out NOW 'cure 1' serves as mistake a buffer for when I got for 'cure 2' and miss. It may not be optimal healing, but its still healing and more often than not it is just enough that I can follow it with a 'cure 2' and everything turns out alright. On the flip side of the coin, I find shield healers to be a bit more difficult to play as they don't have this safety buffer for high stress situations and I wind up mispressing or fat fingering buttons way more. If you are a beginner white mage, don't listen to the people telling you to take it off your bar. Place it next to 'cure 2' instead.

[@princessjello]

It's pronounced "dun sky". My friend and i looked it up while we were dead on the ship in dun scaith 😂

[@chatika2440]

interesting on the casual content mentions because i have, in the past, participated in Only DPS endwalker alliance raid clears (when it was current). it's not only doable, it's actually kinda easy after you develop a strat.

[@ridleyroid9060]

The absolutely crazy thing about ratholos is just how accurate he is too his monhun moveset. Having fought him across like 4 games hundreds of times I know all of his tells by heart, and it's all applicable in FFXIV for the most part

[@azmakikian5400]

As a Catboy Tank. You should see Elemental and OCE, the sheer amount of Catboys during catboy meet-ups is crazy. We often do All catboy themed Alliance Raids heres a link to a video I made on the most recent one > kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5CvZK1rrJaol68

[@coffeeavenger]

Tanks don’t have too much self healing-WAR has too much self-healing. *cries in DRK*

[@redgeoblaze3752]

I say this as someone who's been involved in the Healer Strike forum thread for a while, the main issue isn't entirely that healers aren't necessary, but Healers just don't do anything for most of all casual content. You said it yourself numerous times in your videos. you just let Selene do all the work, or let the tank heal himself. Healers might throw out the occasional oGCD heal, but just about all you're doing is just mashing Broil throughout all casual content. Even savage and ultimate has about +80% of your GCDs just be your main damage skill. Players are good at finding a problem, but not finding a solution. Tanks don't care about the lack of mitigation checks or aggro mechanics in casual content because they've got a full damage rotation to keep them occupied. If they gave that to healers, then no one would be complaining. The point of calling it a strike was to gather as many eyes on the concept as possible. Healer mains are leaving the role, and we want our complaints to actually be addressed for once. I was a Scholar main until a couple months ago when I tried out Black Mage in savage, and realized how much fun an actual DPS rotation was.

[@CanisInfernus]

I think something that would help with the 'healer strike' content difficulty issues would be if they were more willing to balance mechanics in the direction of "difficult and complicated, but relatively unpunishing." Like the puppet's bunker vuln stack hallway. Give us more mechanics with the approach of "people are going to mess this up and that's somewhat expected."