CIG Address Star Citizen 4.0.1 Issues & Priorities Outlined - FIXING THE PU

[@Metaconceptual]

Them canceling free flight was a good idea, and I give them respect where it's due. I didn't think they would do it. I hope there are more choices like this to come along the way. The community needs to be heard on a lot of these legitimate problems.

[@a.k.1902]

In my personal opinion, there's an issue at CIG with whoever is pushing deadlines (4.0 before Christmas) instead of waiting until things are collectively ready. I sighed when they said they were removing the much needed transport update. It was already clunky and unreliable at times, so the idea it would work still in it's current state, when the rest of the server tech is moving on, using the new messaging system etc, seems a bit crazy. I was under the impression everything needs to use the new messaging service to properly handle all the requests, and to prioritise those requests. Leaving systems out of that when it's part of the plan can't be helpful!

[@rixxy9204]

They had to release it for sales purposes. I was OK with them releasing it because it was "preview" so I expected a horrible buggy mess. Besides, they routinely make buggy releases so it's no surprise anyways.

[@networknomad5600]

No, stop glazing CIG. Giving them more time isn't going to solve their core issues, my dude we've already given them TWELVE YEARS.

[@Ekko-i4c]

I agree with you. It doesn’t matter whether the news is good or bad-people are tired of promises, potential bug fixes that don’t actually fix anything, and overall frustration. CIG has really messed up this time, and players are starting to leave.

[@Solar546]

I couldn't reach my ships with two accounts. This isn't a game anymore.

[@rixxy9204]

@@Solar546 Yeah the list is just endless. Login issues, ships not spawning, bugged missions, desync fights, glitched ATC, cargo disappearing...

[@Clearwood_]

​@@Solar546 idk how people are having this many problems. I played around 7 hours yesterday and had some minor issues. The biggest one for me is always the elevators. It's definitely frustrating and I'm glad I don't have as many issues as others but this has to get fixed they can't let this many people suffer these issues.

[@beardedbarnstormer9577]

@@Clearwood_ same i played with my org for hours with no issues after hot patch

[@plastlcsheep]

uninstall, Nvidia came in and fixed their engine and they broke it again, they need to learn how to dev not rely on GPT

[@Shadow_Liger-io5lg]

Id ask that they pause any sales and marketing for just 1-2 months. Focus on stability.

[@rixxy9204]

Without sales, there's no game... so that ain't gonna happen.

[@Shadow_Liger-io5lg]

@rixxy9204 the best advertisement for this game would be stability

[@FuriousImp]

I'll see it when I believe it. I've only put up 45 for a Cutter starter pack when it was on sale l. Have had great fun with this game and I hope they'll make it happen

[@luciferverone]

Same here, I forked over 45 for a cutter and havent bought another ship yet. Im waiting for the game to get a bit better and put in more time once persistent wipes arent a thing anymore.

[@saosaoldian6742]

You guys are the smart ones. After 12 years I’ve put a little more than $45. Just “a little”. Smh.

[@MysteicVoltronus]

Wait, I WAS fired on by Grim Hex defenses? I told all my friends that as a joke and figured my ship was destroyed by some other bug; but it really was the defense turrets. Good job CIG.

[@Random_Banshee]

That has been happening for months

[@FlamingoTable]

I joined my friends in a good mood to play, was looking forward to being able to do some bunker stuff (I just recovered from the painful contracts bug in 4.0 where you lose them after a prison sentence). I did my introductory Merc thing, shit was going well. My friends mission bugs out, he couldn't complete it and out of frustration he kills one of the NPC's landing him a crime stat. Ok fine, I can do stuff with the other party member while we wait out his sentence... Nope, I take off and explode. My friend thinks it was the medivac in my hold, it could've been but it's not the first time I've had collision alert while taking off in an empty space and exploding. Okay, that felt bad but I can recover my stuff since I respawned in the medivac... Nope, my corpse fell through the planet with all my stuff on it. Awesome, I exit to menu to quick travel to a station where I claim my ship and buy armor. During this process I crash 3 times in a row, 30K error and one desktop crash. Then the elevators were all empty. Needless to say I'm taking a break, that was too much for me. It is shameful that they promote their game during such a tumultuous patch, even now after they cancelled the free fly event they market their fucking merchandise to us as if we're going to shell out our money when they can't even fix the game. They removed the one team play mechanic that motivated teamplay, mission sharing rewards. Then the Xenothreat salvage itself created a gameplay loop but no, they want us to play their game their way despite it being a sandbox. I'm worried about where the game is going, especially with their recent decisions. Are they insane to release a new ship in the current state of the game?

[@rixxy9204]

"During this process I crash 3 times in a row, 30K error and one desktop crash" This is the key issue. All the issues are lower priority because I can't even get another player to *_consider_* SC these days. The worst part is that there's been so many years of glitches (and no progress) that SC is a big joke with every gamer that's heard about it.

[@FlamingoTable]

@rixxy9204 It's diabolical tbh. Ten years of development... You'd think something would be functioning by now but they're clearly only driven through monitary motivations. They're only now fixing the game because they can't ignore the problems, that's how bad it has gotten. New players won't come in when the game is like this. I guarantee they'll stop "fixing" the game once their new cash flow comes in (new players) "We'll only start fixing the game because our cashflow is in trouble, but hey enjoy this new salvaging ship with half the capacity than our current roster!" EDIT: I may be wrong with their motivations and they are actively fixing the game but it's so frustrating that they've so consistently released hot garbage. 4.0 should've been delayed.

[@octodoodle]

played for 4 hours today after the hotfix came out, running hauling missions. absolutely no bugs apart from my hull-A cargo spindle not retracting, but that's no biggie. made 450K, most enjoyable play session I've ever had, with the best frames I've ever had.

[@pilksuk]

They need to put a stop on all sales events for the year, stop work on things like dynamic events etc and cancel Citcon this year needs to be hyper focussed on fixing the core/base level of the game they need a good foundation to build on they don't have that and people are fed up and just want to see less marketing and sales pushed at them and more progress.

[@kermkerm]

That would be a horrible idea. Although they need to focus more on stability, they still need constant funding to actually make the game.

[@thunkin-ai]

@@kermkermcounter argument is if the current game is playable people will spend money

[@mfcRogue]

@@kermkerm Stability will do that though, I have serveral friends who keep asking me if it's worth picking up yet, I keep saying no. I have a few friends ready to purchase but every previous free fly they've tried the game just fell over. 4.0.1 is better but there's still along way to go.

[@chrish813]

Bro the still have plenty of money

[@thunkin-ai]

@ the burn rate tho

[@tequila6955]

I would like CIG TO treat the PU like a live service in development. No one wants to fund a gold painted turd. I have had some of the best time in SC. I really hope stability is their focus. Until then our crew went to Elite Dangerous. It isn’t as cinematic but it is still a good looking game and everything works. Please give us a reason to come back CIG.

[@Melonskull]

I really am thankful I'm just now getting in to Star Citizen this month. I'm not sure I could have stayed around for as long as some folks have and it seems like I came in when the game has begun to turn a corner and looks so good. Saying that I also went through the absolutely nightmare that was 4.0 preview so I don't really know what to think.. lol

[@Random_Banshee]

Game was much, MUCH less buggy a couple years ago still, it has gotten so much worse it‘s been downright unplayable lately. The 3.08-3.16 era was amazing, sure there were always issues but almost never something that didn‘t have a workaround. Nowadays, almost all bugs are directly gamebreaking.

[@OctopusImaginations]

had a great play session this morning. completed 3 save pyro missions and had absolutely no issues on the hotfix build, other than i died after jumping off a cliff (because of my own stpidity)

[@VonSpud]

Yesterday night was terrible on both 4.01 LIVE and Hotfix. Tonight was fine. Finished 2 bunker missions on Microtech. Only issue was a long wait Q to get out of and back in my hanger. 300 secs and 600secs

[@warren3174]

That queue time is normal and will be a part of the game going forward. It's a part of the instanced hangars lol

[@eththebeast2059]

Yeah but it still sucks. I waited for 13.5 minutes to get a hangar last night. That’s ridiculous

[@calmofthewind]

Yeah I also didn’t have much issue last night

[@rixxy9204]

Yeah it's still pretty unstable, better than before but still not great... I think I had to login 5 times at one point. Aside from stability, the other big issue is that the game gets quite boring. It's extremely hard to get new players, and old players are burned out from the promises and decade-old missions.

[@supersasquatch]

if they can do this, they will go from scam to masterpiece again

[@AricWilisch]

They made the right decision. Honestly, I never thought they would put the good of the universe before making credits... But not much sense advertising a broken universe to potential new players.

[@jedison2441]

The game has never been so smooth for me, I was able to put in a full session without any major issues.

[@thespectator2976]

CIG should stop here witht 4.xx and focus on fixing the game, fix the bugs and focus on beta now. its kinda time for that.

[@sudonix5923]

They literally said that's what they are doing. The issue is if they actually do it.

[@arcadealchemist]

Focus on getting crafting and base building in verse and make that a priority for 2026

[@thespectator2976]

@ Sorry, but i heard alot from them what did not turn out as they said. :)

[@jonathanbaago5312]

I played a good 4 hours last night with my friends on the hotfix. It was almost boring because of no issues, in a good way.

[@TIMFMOORE]

Same! Prior to that it wasn’t worth the boot time

[@lights4bre890]

I did about 7 hours total yesterday. Some items kept rubberbanding back into inventory after putting them in my backpack - so i found myself out in the field ready to loot some components from a dead npc bounty ship - and had no tractor beam with me - and i had to server hop 2x because elevator button wouldnt interact. My friend had to hop because the hangar door opened but there was another solid door past that one he couldnt get thru. Other than that - had a bunch of fun out there running missions and fighting people that tried to get the drop on us out in pyro

[@Terrince_Tate]

CIG needs to fix thei native controller support! Geezzz, this game has been in development for 12 years! Elite Dangerous has controller support with a really good tutorial system. CIG needs to stop promoting broken features that don't work properly and focus on what's already in the game. I'm starting to believe it's a scam.

[@danderd235]

Fans of the game MUST be starting to have doubts about SCs future. Too many chickens coming home to roost.

[@burgerpops7182]

lol no like what?

[@JJS563]

They will fix elevators and all the sword swallowers will call it the 2nd coming of christ. and on and on we go

[@sudonix5923]

4.0 was perfect for the first 3 days. I don't understand how they patched bugs and made it exponentially worse. It was clear that server degradation was causing the issues after launch.

[@warren3174]

The game has hardly any bugs if there's a few people on. It can't handle any volume of players and probably wont until dynamic server meshing is in since that was the real savior. It's FUBAR

[@sudonix5923]

@warren3174 it played perfectly fine for the first 3 days after 4.0 Preview launched. Then all of a sudden we started having inventory issues and then it just got progressively worse.

[@DJB10T1C]

@@sudonix5923 those first 3 days you probably played on low pop servers, those issues are caused by server instability.

[@TheGaryinWales]

They need to add more servers. Not been able to get in for a week. When i did get in before that it was junk. Wasted 3 hours of time when my hangar evaporated and everything fell through it. They have a lot of work ahead this year.

[@mattp1337]

It's a 3.18-lite situation. It might take several weeks to work through the issues and stabilize the flaws in the code, but they'll get there. If that means I can play for a while, oh well. I'll go back to Space Engineers.

[@David-82]

I have been been supporting CIG since 2015 so long as the communication and the constant updates keep coming I will keep supporting the game.

[@rain6353]

They indeed need to do what they said they’d do. Stabilize the game, then make a separate build for new foundation and tech changes. Problem is, how often should They keep OUR build of the game playable without taking manpower away from actually building the game further which may cause the issues they just fixed to break again?

[@Zeo_Kana]

Reliability is key. knowing that the time i invest in the game (its an alpha and progress will be wiped... i know) won't immediately be wiped when a wild bug appears. That said, i got stuck in my own hanger yesterday and logged out due to the logging in process taking so long it just wasn't worth it.

[@Tanksworkshop]

I can get in but in crashes after about a minute to a black screen. Haven't been able to find the mythical ok button, then after a couple minutes the whole PC crashes. Enabling Vulcan crashes after hanging at "Optimizing Shaders". I'm getting a bit salty. This is with an AMD 5700XT card on a 7600X CPU with 32gig RAM.

[@HostileRespite]

The UI. It sucks.

[@Quackoramic]

I really hope that CIG actually delivers what they say they will deliver, because the game is literally unplayable in its current state.

[@DJB10T1C]

did you even try the hot fix? because its more than playable now from what ive heard.

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

The hotfix destroyed my base game files including my screenshots. After deleting and downloading twice it still refuses to even open correctly. Good job CIG.

[@networknomad5600]

"We want gameplay to be as smooth and perfect as possible" Meanwhile, first hotfix they put out, game is a literal dumpster fire

[@TheFrostseeker]

we need an operation health for this game. IDC how long it takes

[@Archmage9885]

4.0 and 4.0.1 have been running incredibly smoothly for me.

[@snaggletoof1927]

It's a shame CIG had to cancel the freefly. That's going to hurt sales. But they've put off server performance/stability for far, far too long. It finally bit them in the rear end. I hope this is a lesson learned for them.

[@raider7769]

I currently play on the Live Servers with the hotfix, and SC runs pretty good. Also loading times are much better now.

[@everettumphrey]

I haven't played much this week due to rl stuff. I'm glad they are laser-focused now.

[@UmbraAtrox_]

4.0.1 is pretty playable ngl

[@ac-uk5kl]

I haven’t had a clean play session since 3.21. Most of my game time is spent trying to find workarounds to bugs, which is not fun at all. CIG need to get 4.0.1 playable as the one and only job before developing further. I am heading back to EvE for a more rewarding experience. Call me when the SC is finished!!!

[@UNBE4R4BLE]

The problem is larger than a patch, only for everything to break again later

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Fixing what is broke....that is a target rich environment.

[@TheBearanormalRealm]

Morning mac! Lesss gooo! Im 6 hours late but lesssss goooooo!!!

[@ubermk3]

Thanks as always for keeping us informed with your to tier SC content. Hands down one of the best SC channels. Subscribe people! o7

[@Ironoxruss]

Any Information is helpful, but there will be detractors if its good or bad.

[@TheRealBillix]

Hopeful for a stable build

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

Right that the Free Fly was cancelled, but WRONG to cancel the Red Festival, PLENTY of Players enjoy the seeking of the Red Envelopes!! As for the rest, just GET ON WITH IT, ACTIONS, as always speak far, far louder than words!!

[@MooCalf]

they can talk as much as they want, ill believe it when i see it

[@Solar546]

Word

[@David-kp9ne]

It's come to a point where players cannot and should not wait another 5-10 years to get a playable game. Is it not safe to say that we waited enough and funded the game enough? At this point they should stop trying to release a game with everything and focus more on releasing a playable game first. Then implement new things.

[@coffeecolic5799]

I'm certainly not holding my breath, The game's been in a bloody terrible state for a very long time now, since 3.18 and I for one am refusing to give them any more money, I've already got my monocle and top hat, and a few other bits and pieces, they've had more than enough money from me. It's about time they got the bloody game working instead of releasing missions which you can't complete because the game is so goddamn buggy. Star Citizen right now is the biggest pile of s*** I have ever played... Yes, I know it's in alpha, And they're still adding features but come on..., the bloody inventory system only works when it feels like it, the hanger doors won't open., lifts (elevator), terrible desync, unable to load weapons, freight elevators, party member icons not showing, mission icons not showing, unable to select quantum locations........ The list goes on and on and on. I'm just sick of it now.

[@joecavanagh3793]

Chris roberts has done nothing but film since early 2000. . He doesnt care anything about a multiplayer online game. SQ42 is his baby, it's glory for him. if i was a betting man I'd say this project will be looked back on as a failure. Tech right now is outpacing their engine.

[@KintaroTakanori]

lol, chis's favorite terada posts something negative about the game and we get a special SCL a week later xD thats funny

[@apr6337]

Um hum Yeah right

[@MarkusKirsch-p9l]

very good patch today.no more problems at all.very well patched..

[@calmofthewind]

It looks like the 4.0.1 I played on the PTU which was veeeery stable- I was actually incredibly pissed that it all went sideways when they put it live

[@svendtang5432]

Getting a game together should be the priorities.. a bit simple acutally.. and build on that from there - no alpha shit just progression.. those sequences are far from what yo experience.

[@utterube]

Personally, I think too many people have forgotten or just never knew all the stuff in game for us to play with currently is specifically designed for testing purposes, fun is secondary. Star citizen has always been on the back burner getting minimal resources vs SQ42, and everyone of us waiting since 2012 is obviously extremely fatigued. SQ42 being feature complete is the only reason we have any iteration of 4.0 right now. Those employee resources were never available to SC until recently, and in less than 2 years we have seen more progress than ever before in the PU even if it is currently broken. Everyone is freaking out because there is so many things that need fixing, and I wish it was in a better place too, but it's cooking, and the cooks have only recently arrived in the kitchen so to speak. This is the year where I would expect to see all these bugs become more of priority regardless how much squawking we do as a community because the core systems are mostly in place now, we just need that dynamic server meshing. After we get the dsm, literally the only thing left for them to work on is bugs, and mission/game content ect. Basically all the "fun" stuff. So people need to relax a bit imo, so much unnecessary drama from basement game developers, last thing this community needs is an echo chamber fueling the frustrations. I highly doubt given the milestones reached that they intend to leave the game in it's current state, and the player experience is only going to be getting better from here. Been waiting since 2012, and just comparing the amounts of annual progress in SC year to year it's clear the game is on the right track even if we are in the midst of a rough patch. Waiting sucks, but yall acting like spoiled toddlers on xmas eve. Which is def going to trigger some of you, so let it out knowing sometime after your tantrum is over the game will be in a better place, and it has nothing to do with the demands any of you are making lol.

[@SeiyuRavensong]

I dont want to hear more promises.

[@worlukk]

i have a golden gate bridge in arizona i want to sell

[@tualatindave3797]

Well there you go! CIG say's they got this, so, they got this! All is good: carry on and keep funding!

[@Chaffee738]

It's just a freaking game. I don't care about "disappointed" or "lost faith" or "broken promises" or "bad publicity" or things like that, it's a game and a game in a particularly bad state on the way to building the server functionality that is known to be a huge ambitious step is just a minor inconvenience in my life, not something for me to freak out and yell at people.

[@Mutzelario]

$ billion game yes, no reason to yell at people though.

[@plastlcsheep]

Uninstall, Nvidia came in and fixed their engine and they broke it again, they need to learn how to dev not rely on GPT

[@firstjayjay]

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[@focusmicro]

"We fixed over 100 bugs". No you didnt. Creditability died long ago. Still, good game, when it works (random).

[@arcadealchemist]

What exsactly did they addres? The fact their tech demo really needs more work and better quality employees

[@anthonykoller4459]

No Man’s Sky has a much smaller budget and yet they manage to make Beautiful Worlds in the Millions with Amazing Contents and Graphics, while Star Citizen has a larger budget and decade of production and they only Managed to make less than a Dozen Worlds to explore which has no Life Forms to interact with and the Players are virtually on their own. No Man’s Sky is Vastly Superior and more importantly Better than what Star Citizen is currently offering at the Moment.

[@calmofthewind]

No mans sky went all in on procedural generation, CIG didn’t even start til like 4 years ago or something like that. And they’re only leaning on it for some things- they also wanna manually focus on making most things which admittedly takes a lot of time

[@All_Good_Things]

10+ years and they still can't get it right. This game will never be released as a full complete game

[@IndigoSun-hz6cq]

I love the idea that all that was holding SC back was one free-fly session and now it's not happening all will be fixed.

[@Cysmoke]

CIG will make it happen and get us all cheering again soon. Sure, we’re a bit on edge; that happens when one puts him/herself in hours of self torture. But that’s who we are; we carry the pain for future generations. We should be proud of ourselves. 😉. [patting everyone on the back]

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

I do wonder why there are such disparate experiences when playing Star Citizen. I have relatively few bugs and they are rarely game breaking. Others can't even log into the game. Why the difference. Is it hardware or software related? Internet connection? User error and if so what am I doing right and they are doing wrong?

[@warren3174]

Tell us your playstyle and what you do when playing and for how long? It's certainly not user side issues with hardware or internet connections. HAHAHA It's insane and insulting to even suggest that when it comes to SC. SC can fk up the best setups in the world and idiots waste tons of money on their side setups only to discover what I'm saying. You obviously aren't playing much or doing much in game to achieve the impossible.

[@TheGaryinWales]

Most of the time it will be timezone/play time related. I try to go on after the kids are in bed...like a lot of other people. So i so sit in a massive queue. If you play during the quiet times you'll get in and not have much to worry about.

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

@ Nice assumptions about me there. In 3.19.x I was playing on a FX-6300, a R9 290 4GB, 32GB of DDR3-1600 CL9 with a SATA SSD and wired ethernet. I played for 12 hours straight on that setup one night. Very few bugs, but I think that computer may have been too slow for some of the bugs to show up. I decided I was really starting to need to upgrade because when traveling back from ILW show to Orison in the shuttle the spaceport wasn't loading in. This wasn't a bug though, my CPU was just too slow to load in all of the assets for the Orison space port. That PC was perfectly fine in 3.15 and 3.16, performance got a little weird in 3.17 with improvements in some places but loss of performance in others. In November of 2022 I upgraded to a R9 7900x installed in a ASUS TUF Gaming X670E Plus Wifi and a Sapphire Pulse RX6800, 32GB of DDR5-6000 CL36 and a gen4 NVME and I'm still on a wired ethernet connection. Our internet provider recently upgraded us from 100Mb per second to Gigabit for free. I still don't have most or any of the bugs that I hear most commenters whining about. I've played on a Potato and I've played on a decent rig. I play at least 2 hours every Sunday night (8pm-10pm) with a buddy of mine from grade school. Most weeks I fit in additional time to play, usually for several hours each time. I generally have such a good experience that I chalk most of bug complaints up as haters stirring the pot while never playing. I'm not saying the bugs don't exist. I'm saying that people that don't play see people complaining about a bug and then make it their life goal to amplify the complaints about every bug they see anyone complain about. But, I know you will just call me a white knight and try to gaslight me about my own experiences because judging from your comment that is the type of person you are.

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

@@TheGaryinWales My regular playtime is 8-10pm EST on Sunday nights. This is peak play time for those in California and I expect a lot of people on the east coast still play during this window.

[@antonward8352]

Don't play this shit its a scam.

[@liquidsquid73]

dont tell me what to do🤑

[@calmofthewind]

Time to buy more ships 🤑

[@antonward8352]

@@calmofthewind your the whole reason the game will never be fixed.

[@PerseusCpt]

Let’s see how it’s going… 🥲 Anyways, I love ur content !👍🏼