Cimarron 1858 Remington .45 Colt Conversion

Showing and first shots through my new single action.

[@samg5463]

Really glad you uploaded this. I was looking at buying one but I wanted to see one in action first. Much obliged.

[@plowboysghost]

I happy to hear that something I did was helpful. Thank you.

[@Maxtowers71]

here for the same reason!!

[@MetalDetroit]

Did you end up getting one? I’m thinking about it

[@D5quared91]

Looks real good Plowboy! I just got done refinishing those “red” grips on my Uberti .44 cap and ball. I stripped the red factory varnish and that revealed a nice walnut grain pattern. Stained it and put some coats of oil on it, looks great. The Italians know how to make a gun, as well as salami.

[@plowboysghost]

I figured I'd be refinishing these, but these are like the stock on my 1873 rifle. Yeah, they're reddish, but I can see grain beneath the finish and it doesn't look as bad as I thought it would.

[@1AFVeteran]

I came across this firearm today, first time to ever see one online for sale, and glad to see a video on this beautiful firearm replica from Cimarron. Thank you for making this video! Pale Rider, the Preacher, Clint Eastwood. One of my favorite movies of many!

[@plowboysghost]

@@1AFVeteran I'm glad you found the video useful.

[@gunsmackamigos1159]

That is too cool! One of my locals had that pistol in stock a while back. Got to fondle it and almost bought it. Like you, I had other prospects on the horizon. Will have to re-add it to my wish list. Thanks for sharing it!

[@plowboysghost]

Yeah, I couldn't let a Schofield at the dealer pass me by the first time around, but I knew without a doubt I would be adding this Remington model at some point. Thanks!

[@7dangus7]

Cool video, really fun to watch, great job.

[@sackett68]

Very nice! That's a real beauty! Those old guns have a lot of soul.

[@plowboysghost]

I know what you mean. I have grown to want almost nothing but the old (pattern at least)stuff. Thanks!

[@WolfMusket]

Don't be to hard on yourself! the shooting videos you do are always fun to watch.

[@plowboysghost]

Heheh...y'all are often part of the experience when I get something new that I'm not familiar with. Thanks.

[@t4texastom587]

Great looking pistol. Definitely on my bucket list.

[@jakewayrewa5201]

My friend, you once again beat me to getting one of the guns on my wish list. Excellent!

[@plowboysghost]

It'll be a sweet thing if the one you get is like this one....and WELL worth waiting for, in my opinion. I set out to buy this model last year when I ended up with the first Schofield(had that Schofield been right...had the barrel/cylinder gap not been .018-.019", I would still own it instead of it's in spec replacement). I knew it was just a matter of "when" I would get back on the trail of this Remington Conversion....not "if".

[@Yatzeck]

In my opinion great conversion. Nice to see that there are some people who love this great gun. In my country not much people even know about this conversion. Thx buddy, hope some years after, you're still good and ready. As m I. ;)

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

what country? this is an American gun

[@paulkopacz5051]

I like it! I have an old Armi san Paulo model 1858 and I did the cylinder only conversion because I really didn't want to cut frame. That's a great gun you got there Plowboy!

[@plowboysghost]

Thank you. This is the first Remington (patterned) single action that I've owned since 1998. It's been awhile. I'm actually studying on that Pietta 1863 Remington pocket .31 and then swapping in a .32 S&W Short conversion cylinder in it.

[@PatRMG]

Pretty sweet wheelgun! Thanks for sharing.

[@plowboysghost]

Thanks. Y'all got to see me unfamiliar with a new gun, again...and some of the gaffes and goofs that come with the territory.

[@kadven6447]

Son that's one fine hat. Shootn' iron as well. Thanks for taken the time to share! Sic Semper Tyrannis

[@plowboysghost]

Thank you, much. Deo Vindice, Resurgam.

[@jamesa.7604]

Enjoyed seeing your Cimarron 1858 Remington Revolver Conversion. Thinking about getting one after the first of the year. IF The Man With No Name Revolver don't come my way first. Hope all is good with You and Yours, Plowboy!

[@plowboysghost]

I have both my '58 Conversion and my MWNN .38 Conversion sitting on the coffee table at the moment...and i can recommend either/both revolvers. We're good, so far, James. Hope you are, too.

[@wrxs1781]

Another great video Plowboy,beautiful pistol and a good shooter. Envious again.....

[@plowboysghost]

Very kind of you....

[@Tdream8]

Very fine looking sidearm there! When I first saw that revolver, it made me think of the Uberti 1875 Army Outlaw because of the under barrel support, however on yours I see that is the former loading lever before the conversion. Appreciate sharing the first shots. Interesting ejector set up, Enjoy!

[@plowboysghost]

I reckon this one is a representation of either a blacksmith converted 1858 percussion revolver, or one of Remington's factory conversion models starting in 1868. I've studied Colt and Smith & Wesson's revolver model history from that period, but I'm just now beginning Remington's. Thanks.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Love that conversion revolver.

[@plowboysghost]

Thanks. There's always room for a Remington single action. I'll run some of my 40-gr Goex/255-gr Lee loads through it, soon...next damp day with no breeze...and get the camera out.

[@Warrior-tm9cs]

You just motivated me to get one of those! Thank you for the video

[@plowboysghost]

I ordered this through Gun Genie. My out-the-door price was about $35 or so more than I could have gotten it for through Bud's Gun Shop...but Gun Genie has always been good to me. For those few extra $ it got ordered on Monday and at my dealer on Wednesday (try THAT with Bud's) for no extra shipping cost, and it's got a lifetime replacement warranty as is standard with all guns sold through Davidson's Gallery Of Guns/Gun Genie.

[@tonycamaro1677]

Another great video. I was out here in Colorado today shooting pumpkins with an Uberti “1858” Remington .44 cap n ball. I’m thinking on swapping out the wood grips for faux ivory. Keep doing what you do.

[@plowboysghost]

I hope it's cooler in Colorado than the full blown 95+ degree Summer we're still having in Alabama. It's almost pumpkin season, ain't it....heheh. I'm sure it was "self defense" :)

[@Leverguns50]

Look like a really fun gun and it looked like it worked just fine, thanks for sharing

[@plowboysghost]

Yeah it's good to go. It's me that has some tuning up to do...heheh. Thanks!

[@LUVDOGS1954]

This and the 1875 Outlaw also in 45 Colt are my favorite . Need to get some leather to wear both, one strongside and one crossdraw. Thank you sir.

[@plowboysghost]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind having an 1875, too. Just been a few years ago that a man in Virginia (I believe it was Virginia) open carrying a replica 1875 Remington actually used/fired his gun to stop a robbery of the store he was in. (Of course I like that account since I carry single actions daily).

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

Love the Revolver.

[@MWFrontier]

I Appreciate the vid, really like this 1858!

[@plowboysghost]

Thanks!

[@MWFrontier]

@@plowboysghost so I finally went ahead and acquired one.... shot a bit, maybe vid soon, Awesome to look at and hold, cool to take apart, and was fun to shoot, got some new plates for shooting closer than 100 yrds so sure it will be a blast... Cheers!

[@greyman5590]

Remington New Model Army was produced 1863-1875. 1858 is a misnomer. A lot of people incorrectly refer to that model as a Remington 1858 because of the patent date stamped on the barrel. I share your admiration of that particular model.

[@megatrends]

Wow .... that's beautiful. nice!

[@plowboysghost]

Thank you.

[@StevenMelikean]

Good job! Considering this firearm . . . Your video helped a lot!

[@TXODM]

I see you finally got one! Shes sweet isn't she? I believe there is a spring upgrade out there for the ejector rod.

[@plowboysghost]

Hmmm. hadn't heard that about a spring setup for this one, but I haven't really looked. I knew Kirst makes one but didn't know if it would work on this one. This works fine, just easy to forget on the first run with this gun.

[@TXODM]

Ya when I first got mine I saw it. It's the ejector from another gun that fits on.

[@MisterGeezy]

I'm a Democrat and a subscriber to your channel. I enjoy your videos immensely solely for the guns. Your politics are of no interest or concern to me. 🇺🇲

[@plowboysghost]

Glad to have you.

[@MisterGeezy]

@@plowboysghost I'm watching your videos at this very moment. 🙂

[@ralphperez4862]

Looks like a fun rig. I bought an EMF import Uberti built 1875 Remington which is real similar to what you’re shooting here. Still, looks like a fun gun.

[@plowboysghost]

I'm enjoying it. I may end up adding an 1875 Remington as well, one day.

[@roycesjourney37]

can you imagine a prosecutor standing up telling a jury what a desperado you are for shooting a bad guy in your home, then showing them that gun? Not knowing a 45 Colt would put a horse down. lol

[@Prowbar]

That purle color comes from parts that have been cast. The alloy used sometimes makes the blue change to purple over time.

[@plowboysghost]

The only part on this one that color is the breechplate...but then my understanding is that the frame of this is forged.

[@Prowbar]

Yes, Uberti uses forged frames. By the way, I hope you get around to ado another percussion revolver video sometime, with some shooting and loading. I'm also trying without wads and grease, but the Swiss powder I use leaves a very hard fouling in the chambers, making it impossible to seat a conical unless a grease cookie is used. (That is, after the Winchester 1873 video :))

[@plowboysghost]

@@Prowbar You know, I've still never shot a conical bullet in a cap and ball revolver. I've been shooting roundballs since my first percussion 1858 Remington (Traditions/Pietta) back in '97. I'll have to try that one day. Currently, the only percussion pistol I have is that .36 Pietta Griswold. I've been meaning to make up some more cigarette rolling paper cartridges for it, too.

[@ricktaylor5744]

Thank you Plow boy.

[@VTPSTTU]

Fun stuff!

[@plowboysghost]

Glad to hear you enjoyed it. Thanks!

[@scotthamp384]

Is that your Preacher hat? That's appropriate to wear while showing that beautiful pistol

[@plowboysghost]

It is. Thanks.

[@scotthamp384]

@@plowboysghost I think ol' Clint Eastwood oughta try and do one more Western

[@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike]

Now if they would make the 1863 pocket in a .380 acp conversion.

[@plowboysghost]

I'm thinking hard on getting one with a steel frame '63 Pocket and putting a .32 S&W Short cylinder in it. Doesn't seem like a bad idea since I reload.

[@tjchawla]

Said it once said it a dozen times, love your videos plowboy. How's that longer barrel? Guessing it helps with the recoil and accuracy?

[@plowboysghost]

I really appreciate the kind word. I'm a big fan of the full length, longer barrels on these reproductions. If nothing else, the longer sight radius should be conducive to greater inherent accuracy. As a fan of blackpowder .45 Colt cartridges, too, it seems that the longer barrels really make better use of the powder charge...with what seems like dramatic improvements in power. ...might be just a perception, but it's real enough to me. The extra weight toward the front of the gun does probably help with recoil, as well.

[@redtippedthrobrobin6053]

I just got one of these and installed the kirst extractor/base pin. Do you know where to get some different grips for these or at least a grip extension?

[@gmalick]

thanks for sharing this

[@naillik1517]

Might sound dumb but I would love seeing this gun added in red dead redemption 2.

[@plowboysghost]

Naw...ain't dumb. I haven't sat down and played a game in quite a few years. I wouldn't mind playing RDR2.

[@texanrebel1847]

Your missing out man need to play it

[@kholt275]

Super fun.

[@thomasmanson1119]

What ammo are you shooting? I just got my Remington today so now I need to research the conversion cylinder and rear plate/gate. Thanks for the demo.

[@plowboysghost]

My handload of 8.2-gr of Universal under a Lee .452-255Rf....in this video.

[@witcheshammer]

Could you do a live stream answering questions

[@plowboysghost]

I might sometime...but I'd have to figure it all out on the tech side. I've joined in others' live steams, but never conducted my own.

[@witcheshammer]

Nice videos man I'm a confedrate desednt antoin Mack Michael 9th ga infantry company c Hillyer rifles army of northern Virginia Longstreets division

[@plowboysghost]

I've found and documented several Confederate ancestors....some in the ANV and under Longstreet at Gettysburg (C.C. Pearman, 15th GA Co. H). I have copies of his wartime letters home up til Fredricksburg. I have 2 in the 1st Georgia, CO. B "Georgia State Line" (mostly home guard directly under Gov. Joe Brown). They were my Grandmother's Grandfather(W.I.P. Vandiver), and my Granddaddy's Grandfather(Lumpkin Walters)...both from the same community. There are several out of Randolph County, Alabama....including John Floyd "Buddy" Pike (5th Alabama Infantry, Co. K), as well as several others.

[@witcheshammer]

@@plowboysghost that's really cool you know all of them That your related too . I just know my grandpa's grandpa couse my grandpa was ten when he died and he told him the storys he lived to be ninty five. of the wheatfield in Gettysburg and devil's den and the battle of the wilderness. And my grandpa told me the storys his grandpa told him .

[@plowboysghost]

@@witcheshammer The granddady Pearman was captured near Devil's Den at gettysburg, and sent to Point Lookout prison in Maryland where he died a POW. My Great, Great, Grandfather Pike fought at Gettyburg and was probably within sight of C.C. Pearman's position on that day.

[@trapper-paul]

I’ll get one someday..: Nice!!

[@plowboysghost]

I can't imagine ever regretting this one. Thanks!

[@Matzah1982]

Very nice piece. I also made a video of my first shots I fired from my Uberti 1858 new model army revolver shooting HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy loads using my Howell .45 colt drop in cartridge conversion cylinder and posted it on my channel

[@gxrzavlogs5188]

Nice hat 👍🤠

[@mikeseier4449]

Southern brother, you got one nice 1858 there!!!.... Great video as usual!!

[@plowboysghost]

Thank you, very much!!

[@MrSpacejase]

Im fixing to get one of these.

[@plowboysghost]

I'm still loving this one. I carried it to town yesterday.

[@B.Moore-Ready]

Sweet 👍

[@jamesowens2781]

Hey great video are you using stream yard? I was thinking of getting a black powder conversion.

[@plowboysghost]

Thanks. Yeah, I signed up for stream yard (pretty sure it was that), but the channels I joined in live streams with seem to have lost their mojo for doing it...so I haven't used it.

[@twoowls4469]

Thanks for sharing. Ever ry loading it with black powder and that hand cast bullet?

[@plowboysghost]

I did....my 40gr of 3F Goex/ Lee 255 gr load.

[@twoowls4469]

@plowboysghost nice. I've just started reloading. Have been exploring...

[@ValcoBayrunner]

Have you chronographed that load ? Hornady reloading manual lists 7.9 grs Universal as max load for 900 fps. Im reloading for a conversion cylinder I ordered and it says keep velocity below 900 fps. For a 255 gr bullet 7.0- 7.4 grs would be 800-850 in range. Im thinking you have, but I want to preserve by barrel. I also own a 480 Ruger like you have which brought me to your channel. I loaded up some Speer 325gr Deep Curl bear bisquits for it over W296. Enjoyed your reloading video on that cartridge.

[@plowboysghost]

You've probably noticed that reloading manuals are inconsistent. I've taken my load from John Taffin articles, Brian Pearce, and several others. I've seen 7.8-gr listed as "Cowboy Max", but I'm not loading for cowboy action level. This gun isn't a real conversion. It's built as a .45 Colt cartridge gun, and can handle all SAAMI spec .45 Colt loads....just like my Colt clones and my Schofield clone. 8.0-8.5-gr is still standard pressure (Tier I) with a 255-gr cast bullet. Brian Pearce has 8.5-gr of Universal as a Tier I (14,000 psi) load and running 935 fps out of a 5.5" barrel with a 255-gr Lyman bullet. With a 260-gr Lyman Keith bullet, he has 9.0-gr of Unique running 937 out of the same gun...still Tier I. An old 'proverb' I've read for a long while now claims that 8-8.5 gr of Unique or Universal is about the (velocity) equal loading to the original 40-gr blackpowder load...which can run 1000 fps from a 7.5 revolver. That's probably pretty close to right. I've shot a lot of 7.5...and had unburnt powder/poor performance. I worked up to 8.5 and shot a lot of them, but settled on 8.2-gr of Universal. Now, that's all I have loaded up...about 1100 of them. All my .45 Colt revolvers and my Uberti '66 carbine eats it just fine. Those are, of course, all built as cartridge guns. I would probably step back to 7.8 (+ -) for a conversion cylinder

[@BuckNasty99]

Really good vid! I want to get one But I do have a question for you, Can this pistol handle loads like 45LC +P? or would you risk destroying the gun.

[@plowboysghost]

Thank you. I am certain that it's not +P rated. I can't tell you what would happen, or how many times one could get away with +P before "it" happens, but I'm positive 'it" would happen.

[@jakecolvin3231]

By standard hand loads, I assume these aren’t restricted to cowboy loads only…correct? Thanks in advance and helpful video! Looking to pick one up in a week or so. Keep it up man!

[@plowboysghost]

Correct. Uberti built cartridge Remington Army models like this are built for cartridges from the factory, and are proofed as any Italian cartridge gun in that caliber is.....for a steady diet of standard pressure .45 Colt loads. Like their Colt "conversions"...this isn't really a cap and ball conversion. It's a cartridge gun made to look like a conversion.

[@sergioarodrigues]

Hi Brother, do you think we can do the same thing (carry with 6) and put the hammer between the two chambers in the new army like in the open top 1860? I try it and I can see that it is possible. What you’re think about? Thanks

[@oliverbailey5582]

Hey I know this video is a year old but can you take the cylinder out of the revolver like you could have if it was still a cab and ball revolver

[@plowboysghost]

Yes, it comes out in the same manner as the cap and ball Remington....with the addition of opening the loading gate.

[@RichDoh64]

Looking to get one in 38spl. Have you had any problems with yours?

[@plowboysghost]

I didn't have any problems.

[@AN-us6dj]

Great video. Where did you get the hat also?

[@plowboysghost]

Miller hat Co. out of Houston, TX. It's listed under Clint Eastwood hats.

[@gevorggalstyan5076]

Have you tried 'fan firing' this revolver? I own one too and wanted to try fanning it. I was wondering whether the gun works or performs well when fanning.

[@hopalong1910]

Have you had any problems with the 1858? Awesome revolver !!! (on my list)

[@plowboysghost]

Not a one. I still have this one and love it.

[@Milo30066]

What's the price?

[@plowboysghost]

I'm thinking I gave $520 or $540 for it from Gun Genie.

[@mr.alaska2232]

Is that the angel eyes??

[@plowboysghost]

It's not the official model. This one pre-dates the release of that one.

[@tjchawla]

Hey plowboy, did you hear the news on Colt today? Waiting anxiously for your next vid. 😂

[@plowboysghost]

I've been studying on this and my current thoughts are that Colt hasn't taken a position against AR's being available to the citizenry, but instead has made a business decision based on supply and demand. Colt has plenty of AR's built and in stock, more than the market is demanding, while their military demand is still strong. I figure they've shifted their focus, perhaps temporarily, to the more lucrative side of their business.....with so many companies making cheaper AR's than Colt can produce and sell.

[@MetalDetroit]

Do you need to do the conversion yourself, or does it come factory converted. Always wanted one, but not interested in doing a conversion myself

[@plowboysghost]

It's a factory built cartridge gun made to look like a conversion.

[@MetalDetroit]

@@plowboysghost Great ! That’s what I was thinking, but wasn’t sure. I definitely have to get one then. Don’t know why, but ive always steered away from Black Powder

[@plowboysghost]

@@MetalDetroit I've owned and enjoyed cap and ball pistols since 1997 (don't own one at the moment), but I sure do like the ease of cleanup and loading with a cartridge revolver. As for blackpowder itself... loaded with 40 gr of 3F bp, a 255-gr .45 Colt is a powerhouse, and still cleans up far easier then a cap and ball gun.

[@MetalDetroit]

@@plowboysghost good info, greatly appreciated

[@sergioarodrigues]

What your opinion about carry this revolver with six loaded chambers? I think is possible put the hammer between two chambers..🤔

[@plowboysghost]

@@sergioarodrigues Mine wouldn't hold the firing pin between chambers. The chambers are recessed or too close together...one if the two. I don't have that gun anymore or I would check it to remind myself. Either way ..I would only carry 5 in that gun.

[@Zurgo-fl1kx]

Can you still swap out for a black powder cylandir?

[@plowboysghost]

That is a question mark, for me. Cimarron doesn't say anything about it, but Taylor's says that they offer a cap and ball cylinder for the same Uberti built gun.

[@tracksam3174]

Can they take normal loads or just cowboy loads?

[@plowboysghost]

All standard pressure .45 Colt loads are fine in these guns.

[@naillik1517]

Dam! Thanks ya so much for doing my request. What's your overall opinion about this gun?

[@plowboysghost]

So far, so good! I can't see a thing wrong with it. You see me having a few self-induced issues...fidgeting with it whilst getting to know the first Remington pattern single action that I've held or shot since 1997 or 1998...AND that one being a cap and ball .44, but there's nothing but stuff to love about this revolver from what I can tell.

[@plowboysghost]

I like it so much that I'm considering a '63 Remington Pocket .31 and buying a conversion cylinder for .32 S&W Short as a companion to this one.

[@naillik1517]

Thanks you for your answers. I knew that would be a good one.

[@plowboysghost]

@@naillik1517 You're quite welcome, sir.

[@tatertot4224]

I cannot get the conversion working for the life of me

[@Floridaman6815]

What cylinder did you use? I ordered one online and it won’t fit?

[@hopalong1910]

I forgot to ask. Can u shoot modern smokeless cartridges in your 1858 ?

[@plowboysghost]

Yes. It'll handle any standard pressure SAAMI spec .45 Colt ammunition.

[@TiroeRicaricaWestern]

Howdy, I was wondering if it's possible to remove the breech and swap to a black powder cylinder? thanks in advance

[@plowboysghost]

Taylors says that they offer a cap and ball cylinder for their Uberti 1858 Remington Conversion, but i don't see anything from Cimarron about it with theirs (this) Uberti 1858 Remington Conversion. I would have to contact Cimarron to see...and then maybe Taylor's if not.

[@TiroeRicaricaWestern]

Thanks for the info! Is any screw on the frame that will remove the plate?

[@jeremiahdillard9201]

what style of hat is that?

[@plowboysghost]

That's this hat : kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6nbaax-rpemfs0

[@josephvega6716]

Does the revolver have a transfer bar on it ?

[@plowboysghost]

No. It's got a frame mounted firing pin that would rest on a primer if you kept a loaded chamber under the hammer...so for carry, it's a 5-shooter.

[@josephvega6716]

plowboysghost darn thank you tho for the response

[@plowboysghost]

@@josephvega6716 No problem.

[@eugenejohnson8635]

Why carried a gun if it’s not load it be useless

[@plowboysghost]

Exactly! (Well...you could beat someone or something to death with it, but then if all I wanted was a hammer, I could've saved a LOT of money) heheh

[@eugenejohnson8635]

That’s true