Independence Day (1996) | Canadians First Time Watching | Review & React |

[@CineBingeReact]

How have Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum not worked together in any other films!?! They are so good together!! and so pretty ^-^

[@Traveler89_89]

It’s ridiculous. No buddy films or nothing. They gotta do one together. Another one I mean.

[@1MAN3LIVES]

Thanksgiving, 4th of July and Christmas all celebrated the same, they are ALL national holidays with paid time off.

They both have done science fiction on their own. At some point in time you will need to react to Jeff Goldblum's _The Fly_ .

[@VolcanoQueen]

at 8:10 I can name a reason why aliens would pick a fight with us, it's because we're dangerous, we constantly wage war with each other and at the same time kill our planet, if we got past our solar system we would surely kill anything that isn't us under the pretense of protecting ourselves, so it's it would be better if someone got us how we are now instead of waiting until it's to late

[@synaesthesia2010]

the studios didn't want Will Smith in this, because they didn't think black men are 'bankable', but Emmerich persisted and it became Smith's first blockbuster movie

[@Liesmith424]

"I thought this had Will Smith in it." If it's an American movie in the 90's, I think Will Smith just naturally occurred.

[@christopherbowers7236]

"he just showed up one day assuming he'd been hired, and we didn't want to argue"

[@TheWilyx]

Like, the Wachowski sisters wanted Will to play Neo xD

[@matthewkalasky2891]

He wasn't in Mars Attacks or either of the Jurassic Parks, though. (I guess what happened with that was, if you aren't in Independance Day you where in Mars Attacks, or vice-versa)

[@iconpoet]

He was the young Samuel L Jackson

[@jonathanhallberg3009]

Will Smith and Jim Carrey pretty much owned the 90s movie scene.

[@mitchwebb571]

14:48 “They really hate landmarks” 😂😂😂 I’ve never commented on you guys videos before but you’ve got some amazing banter and I love that. Thank you so much keep doing what you’re doing. You guys reaction to Joe Joe rabbit had me in tears as well you’re great

[@alexsmith3832]

Jeff Goldblum says "they love to get the landmarks" in the sequel. What a disappointment the sequel was. :(

[@fakecubed]

@@alexsmith3832 Worst sequel ever made. Anyway, Independence Day pretty much made the landmarks get destroyed disaster movie trope. It had been done before, but never to this extent.

[@trek1030]

There's a deleted scene that explains they were able to create the virus because modern PC's were created based on designs from the alien ship's computers at area 51

[@WhackyRavenLand]

This! All this!

[@RexRegisPeter]

Oh, that explains so much

[@lordmortarius538]

I think they just assumed that people would draw the logical conclusion that the jump in electronics development we experienced in the late 40's/early 50's was a result of reverse-engineering the crashed spacecraft's systems, it's a common trope in scifi.

[@ianburns1167]

Even if we didn't base our computers on their stuff, we'd still had decades to study their OS.

[@ISavant]

Deleting that scene was such a stupid decision on whomever's part.

[@Jarsia]

As a Canadian, Bill Pullman's speech makes me proud to be American

[@jerodast]

Haha I'm glad. I've seen other non-US viewers get angry at the (very silly) nationalism of that speech, which I really don't get - the whole speech is about how the victory of the united world against the aliens is more important than the American holiday! But with a little tie-in American history to get the troops going :)

[@Engy_Wuck]

@@jerodast that's not how the world interpreted that speech...

[@trequor]

​@@Engy_WuckSome of us did

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

​@@trequorAnd there are some places where America did some terrible things...

[@trequor]

@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise Sure. But there are still people, foreigners, alive today who remember Americans as heroes

[@Steveypoos]

Jeff Goldblum's 'Must go faster' was def a callback to Jurassic Park.

[@UnlicensedOkie]

He actually adlibbed it in this movie. Read somewhere that it made Steven Spielberg mad when he heard about it

[@haissem8]

No shit man

[@nguvideos2868]

" I feel like a fat dumb stinky ass turd". "fuck Jeff Goldblum man"

[@bradybimson9106]

Rewatching this movie its so apparent that the actors and characters make this movie the classic that it is. The plot is basic, there's plenty of things you have to blindly accept, script is okay, but from Bills speech to Jeff's nerdy sarcasm to Wills insane charisma it's hard to replicate. The entire cast seemed to have great chemistry with everyone and great performances all around. Perfect popcorn movie

[@merchillio]

Simone giggling at the sight of Brent Spiner and George having no idea 🤣😂🤣😂

[@Tantalus010]

Simone is the first reactor to this film that I've seen who knew who Brent Spiner is.

[@tc-tm1my]

i had no clue it was him and saw this film 25 years ago

[@mikegoodwin2386]

Yeah, someone had to tell me who he was. The hair totally through me off.

[@gnomeandgarden6157]

@@Tantalus010 What is wrong with these people that they don't know Bob and June Wheeler?

[@robertcartier5088]

@@gnomeandgarden6157 Night Court! I loved that show! ;-]

[@Spectre-907]

I like the bit where George says “we don’t declare war on ants”. It’s true, if there’s an anthill in the way we just roll right over it, or exterminate it. It’s not a war, we barely even register it as a conscious act at all. Now ask the ants what just happened to them.

[@leigh-anjohnson]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856]

ask my baby cousin who stood his ground on the ant hill until he had to retreat with oochies and booboos.

[@Samstone7]

"must go faster!!" Is in reference to Jeff's character in Jurassic Park.

[@vodengc520]

After seeing that for the first time, I was convinced it would become Goldblum's personal "I'll be back." Oh well, lol.

[@mattallen2801]

I was going to say the same thing, lol

[@ResoluteGryphon]

If I remember correctly, the audio is directly lifted from Jurassic Park.

[@Samstone7]

@@ResoluteGryphon 😂😂😂

[@kathryngreen8665]

Love this movie, so glad to see it through fresh eyes. The presidents speech is one of the best movie speeches I have ever heard and gives me goosebumps.

[@vikashwan]

the presidents speech is one of the cheesiest of all time

[@potitishogun2961997]

@@vikashwan Both cheesiest, but also best

[@Rishi123456789]

@@vikashwan Something can be good and cheesy at the same time. The President's speech is one of the best speeches I have ever heard.

[@scottswenson383]

Saw this in the theater back in 96....sat thru most of the movie with my jaw hanging open....it wasn't Star Wars for 1977 but it was truly something different and unlike anything I'd ever seen at the time. All in all it still holds up pretty well considering its been 25 years. And on a side note...Lt. Commander Data is the man ;- )

[@sandpiperr]

I was 10 years old when this movie came out and I saw it in the theater. It was awesome.

[@mrbard1]

I was five when this came out and that alien dissection scene scarred me for awhile. This movie is top teir alien movie as scifi filmes go.

[@Skye_Writer]

Absolutely. It's a silly scifi fantasy ofc, and hardly the best-written thing. But it's so damn fun, and I watch it every time it's on TV

[@nathanberrigan9839]

I saw it 1 1/2 times on opening day. 1/2 because the first time was cut short due to a fire alarm. It went off right as A51 was being attacked and nobody moved because we all thought the alarm was part of the scene. It wasn't until they stopped the movie and turned on the lights that we realized it was an actual alarm.

[@SupremeCommanderBaiser]

Same here. Watched it with my sister.

[@potitishogun2961997]

This is the first movie where I've been legitimately invested in an American president as a character XD This guy embodies everything I wanna see in a leader; composure, assertiveness, diplomacy, compassion, determination... and COURAGE. Bro genuinely LEAD the strikes against the aliens at the front lines, like George Washington did against the British. Sheer badass

[@noraa1991]

There's a deleted scene explaining how they synthesized the computer virus basically it involves the technology the aliens left behind in the original roswell crash don't know why they left it out, makes the sequence much more confusing

[@laakeri84]

@TheJoeGreene, Whoa. Where were did you live back then? I was 12 in 1996 and all my friends had computers and the web was gaining popularity. My brother started in polytechnic that year and I remember sometimes going there with him in the late evenings because they had fast internet connection there. We only had a dial-up internet access at home back then.

[@laakeri84]

@TheJoeGreene So it was quite different on that side of Atlantic ocean compared to what we had here in Finland.

[@ARandomInternetUser08]

5:40 I swear, I know him from somewhere, another movie, or series, but I can't remember, and it's bothering me! Nvm, I found the movie. It was My Cousin Vinny. I had to search up what the cast for this movie and find out which other movies he was in, and I remembered after I saw the list of movies he was in.

[@a.m.6402]

They’ve seen this movie before.

[@MithrilBiscuit]

Regarding the earth-born virus affecting the spaceships, supposedly there was a scene cut out explaining that, because of the captured ship housed at Area 51, all our computer technology was reverse-engineered from it and therefore susceptible to the virus. Makes sense, not sure why they left it out.

[@voidwalker7774]

Most likely because it contained to much truth [queues x-files music]

[@kayearcher8407]

@Kristopher Chavez It sadly was a pacing issue, they couched it in several cut scenes, sentences here and there.

[@ccricers]

The extended edition added some good scenes (like that one mentioned) but other ones mess with the pacing. Especially in the first “act” the lack of any background score in the scenes interrupts the flow

[@tremorsfan]

I always assumed that Steve Jobs worked for Area 51.

[@RyoHazuki224]

@Kristopher Chavez Well if it was just like one line tossed in, they could have kept it in and not ruin the pace of the movie.

[@MrMcbear]

Here in the U.S. "independence Day" aka 4th of July is probably the biggest "American Holiday" Thanksgiving and xmas etc I'd consider more global since many others outside celebrate it. But as far as a holiday celebrating our country itself #1 would be 4th of July and #2 would probably be Memorial Day weekend, A time we honor our service members past and people flock to the coasts and vacation spots to spend time with others and reflect and party. We aren't perfect, but we do LOVE our Country.

[@timstackii]

Stargate would ge a great choice after this from that time period in movies as well as also similar producers ... plus for more destruction, check out 2012.

[@lucaoliviero5490]

Stargate is really a great choice

[@przemysawjozwiak144]

Well, StarGate have about four movies so 🙂

[@hellowhat890]

Independence Day's story was actually inspired when they the directors were promoting Stargate. XD

[@scottlaughlin9897]

Yes yes!!!

[@lithium23]

no, how about we do not check out 2012

[@adamskeans2515]

And officially, the lamest line in Sci-Fi history, "So, it's an organic life form"

[@fastertove]

Not sure why that it such a lame comment. If aliens were to visit earth, they would likely be mechanic in nature due to the impractical distances involved.

[@Tigermania]

Some films really get a benefit from the big screen experience and this is one of them. Also Bill Pullman really nailed that presidential speech scene great acting.

Big screen, well equipped with the sound, and a matinee full packed of people for the noisy crowd's reactions. 💪🏾

[@paulchaisson8301]

It is one of the best inspirational speeches in film, hands down.

[@jacobvardy]

@Kristopher Chavez from memory, the 'Independence Day' speech is in iambic pentameter. It's a homage to the 'Saint Crispin's Day' speech by Shakespeare in 'Henry the Fifth'. It's a literary technique that Shakespeare commonly used - all the characters speak in everyday prose but the noble leader gives a rousing speech in poetry. There is frequently a lot more going on in a Roland Emmerich movie than big explosions.

[@WisteriaDrake]

@@jacobvardy Exactly, if Roland Emmerich was just big explosions and nothing intelligent, his name would be Michael Bay.

[@MrCageCat]

Jesus George over thinks stuff 😂

[@asch451]

Please react to the Wil Smith movie "Enemy of the State" with Gene Hackman , it is a classic and foreshadows much of current events. Thanks for the reaction to Independence Day.

[@ISavant]

I want to see a remake of Enemy of the State that ends in 10 minutes because the NSA just looks up his FB page and rips the location data from the app.

[@asch451]

@@ISavant One word "Snowden"

[@ReadersOfTheApocalypse]

Back in the day I considered it the most important movie of all time - before a certain day in 2001, when everyone suddenly started cheering in lockstep... (it was about 95% accurate for its time, don't ask me how I know)

[@asch451]

unfortunately it is becoming accepted.

[@scottlaughlin9897]

Movie made me mad.

[@Vincenzzo111]

3:20 More like "Bonk bed." :)

[@stevebennett9750]

"They really hate landmarks" had me rolling.

[@bzbzob]

Ha, me too, and made me think of Team America too...

[@TheonlyaviableID]

Yeah. Perfect delivery there =D

[@d33dub]

@@TheonlyaviableID appropriate with the sequal also using that line!

[@killzy707]

Destroying landmarks is a quick and easy way to hurt morale.

[@matthewkalasky2891]

@@d33dub That's what got me with that statement.

[@nieloleary6388]

There's a part 2

[@CitizenoftheWorld1]

I really recommend having both of you guys in the thumbnail. When people look for new reactions they enjoy it more when it's two or more people reaction. The thumbnails makes new viewers think there's just one

[@TheNativeEngine]

Absolutely.

[@LibertarianJRT]

You Got Mail is such a guilty pleasure. So is The Lake House. 😂

[@peterk7931]

July 4th is explosions and drinking. Thanksgiving is gluttony and television. They each play to different American strengths.

[@dpiland2]

Don't forget napping

[@marktracy1721]

A bit more than that

[@themagicman6078]

If you want to know more about what's allegedly at area 51, check out Bob Lazars accounting of working with an alien ship. It all sounded like a bunch of bs for a long time HOWEVER, according to his story of working with an alien ship, he saw first hand gravity was a "wave". This is significant because we, at the time of this claim, belived gravity was the result of a particle called gravitons. Almost 50 years after Bob Lazars story, we had a freak coincidence at MIT's LIGO that proved the existince of gravitational waves (for those interested ill give a brief descripter of what occured below). Almost too crazy to be a coincidence. There is also the creation of Americium and Moscovium (artificial additions to the periodic table) that further corroborate his story. It went from one scientists outlandish claims, to a scientist predicting discoverys decadeds before they occured. Suddenly theres new interest in his accountings, and they are far more difficult to dismiss. spooky stuff👻 👽👻 Layman's accident at LIGO: In 2015, MIT was testing a device that could theoretically measure gravitational waves. At the time it was considered very unlikely gravitational waves existed, and beyond that, the machine wasn't sensitive enough to pick up on gravitational waves even if they did exist. This is what they believed at the time. Unbenounced to them, luck was very much on their side. As they began their test, 2 supermassive black holes collided with eachother in deep space! A miracle to be sure. It was the kind of cosmic event needed to trigger proper readings on the Interferometers and prove that gravitons are not what creates gravity, but gravitational waves are. (it is still possible gratvitons exist but that's too complicated to get into here) Thus Einstein's theory of general relativity was no longer theoretical. It is possiblly the 21st century's greatest cosmological achievment.... so far 😉

[@peterk7931]

If you want Jeff Goldblum at his hottest, watch "Earth Girls are Easy" (1988) with Geena Davis. Bonus points for Before-they-were-famous Jim Carrey and Damon Wayans.

[@cobbycaputo3332]

I've never seen anyone react to that. It would be a good one.

[@corystanish]

I have to agree. There's some prime Jeff Goldblum in the first half of The Fly. Bare-chested quite a bit, sometimes totally nude. But in the second half, it all goes so so wrong...

[@jacksonmay153]

The Fly!

[@robertcartier5088]

"Into The Night" (1986) Jeff Goldblum, Michelle Pfeifer(!)... and DAVID BOWIE!!! ;-]

[@cobbycaputo3332]

@@robertcartier5088 that is a very underrated movie.

[@themagicman6078]

"Flew 90 billion light years" 😂 the universe actually isnt even that large. the universe is approximately 13.5 billion years old, and do to the expansion, we are approximately 46 billion light years away from the CMBR

[@tadcooper9733]

George: Does he also get a bare-chested scene in this movie? Simone: God I hope so.... That was the most thirsty moment I've seen in awhile lmao

[@themagicman6078]

Thanksgiving is waaaay bigger 😂 the only thing americans value above freedom is food. Jokes aside: I find it sad we seem to value a holiday with a history of genecide above a holiday about fighting oppressors 🤷‍♂

[@testfire3000]

I love at 23:10 Simone immediately recognized the trope: "is it going to be like 'bump' to the glass?" When I saw this in the theater, everyone was dead silent at that moment, and we all knew what was coming.... when it happened one lady in the theater let out this giant scream and then everyone laughed.

[@lewisner]

"Nukes won't work because they have a shield". In Hollywood physics no but the shields appear to stop solid objects whereas a nuke releases colossal amounts of energy and heat plus a blast wave.

[@jamietaylor5570]

Area 51 is real. It is the area around Groom Lake which has been (and probably continues to be) used for developing secret aircraft such as the A-12, the SR-71, the U2 and the B2. There are daily unlisted commutrer flights there from Las Vegas. Some people think it is also used for examining crashed flying saucers and developing technology based on them. It seems the USAF has historically encouraged these rumours, possibly to help obfuscate their real work. If you look at the straight-on front and side views of a B2 you can see why someone might think it was saucer-shaped...

[@TazorNissen]

And the B2 bomber was the bomber delivering the nuke in the movie.

[@VelkanAngels]

I understood it as them wondering if they really do have proof of alien existence AT Area 51, but who knows. Maybe they really didn't know if it was a real place, I dunno.

[@majkus]

When the new Microsoft Flight Simulator, with real-world surface imagery, came out last year, for the first month or so if you watched on Twitch, _everyone_ was doing Area 51 flyovers. Urban legends are such fun.

[@MattDeMille]

In general: Yes, they have, or HAD, evidence of aliens at Area 51. Site-4. But the research has since moved on to other facilities. For the curious look into the story of Bob Lazar.

[@mr.k1611]

One of the greatest speeches in cinema history.

[@DouglasJohnson.]

Simone commented on the miniatures. I believe the White House miniature took about six months to build, and they could blow it up...once. They had only one chance to get the shot. Keep in mind this is before 3D printers and everything had to be crafted by hand.

[@SandJosieph]

The white house was actually built around a frame they could attach premade parts to. So they could actually blow it up more than once.

[@zandylovesrisk]

@DouglasJohnson Also to add after seeing a video on Tiktok, this films holds the record for the most miniatures in the film with each city being destroyed and the Air Force base.

[@Thoralmir]

Some movie recommendations I'd like to make: Earthquake, the Towering Inferno, the Poseidon Adventure, Airport 1975, Cannonball Run, Smokey & the Bandit, Convoy, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, King Kong (1976) and The Funhouse.

[@theelvenwtich]

As an old guy, I can tell you that Jeff is 100% correct. Windows 95 had an alien interface function. I don't know why they got rid of it, but I am sure it has something to do with market relevance.

[@dougearnest7590]

And here I am using Windows XP. If the aliens invade again, we're gonna have to come up with another plan.

[@gdiaz8827]

Are u referring to the blue screen of death

[@silkwesir1444]

How does that matter when he is using a Mac?

[@theelvenwtich]

@@silkwesir1444 It was an industry-wide decision.

[@matthewpeters8989]

Watch any star trek movie or show!

[@haruruben]

14:40 "they really hate landmarks" that should be on the poster for the movie

[@w9gb]

Dean Devlin was co-writer (he also wrote “Stargate”). Now, go back to early 1980s movie, “Real Genius” with Val Kilmer - Dean Devlin was young actor in that film.

[@tristramcoffin926]

Simone's reaction to the first attack and destruction scene was was so honest and harrowing. However, you have to understand something. When this movie came out in theaters no one had seen anything like it before. Imagine seeing landmark buildings like The White House, The Empire State Building and The Capitol being obliterated like that 14 feet tall. Simone was freaking out watching it on her computer monitor.

[@gambitm7480]

19:02 lol and What the Hell is that SMELL 😂

[@becksimilian2955]

The effects of the first attack on the cities are still so amazing. They held up really well

[@MrMalchore]

For a movie that is universally panned as "Big loud and dumb", it's a really great movie.

[@fastertove]

Yes, it was loud and dumb by design, not unlike other movies at the time, but more importantly it was fun and had some very impressive effects (particular CGI) for its time. It wasn't panned at the time it came out - that it something that came later.

[@Yggdrasil42]

My emotions are all over the place in this episode of CineHinge React. "They really hate landmarks" 😂 "I've never seen Star Trek" 😵

[@SelinaThereseKyle]

Well....Stephen Hawking said "If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans" and he also said that who ever travels to the other planet wouldnt come with peace in their mind, for example if we managed to get space ships and travel to a planet with aliens on it we would invade and vice versa

[@CaturdayNite]

I worked at a theater that summer. It was rough. I had to build 6 prints of this film so we could run them through two projectors ear and have 12 simultaneous showings. It was crazy. Such a busy summer with big Hollywood films. This is probably the best description of a "Popcorn Movie". Light humor, fun, action packed, dogs jumping away from fire like the Millennium Falcon escaping the second DeathStar.

[@neutrino78x]

I was a projectionist at one point. So glad for modern digital tech. Couldn't pay me to go back to taping film together. 🙂

[@CaturdayNite]

@neutrino78x I didn't mind the builds, but I sure hated moving large platters when mgmt would decide to "maximize seating" by moving the Family Friendly/Kids films to the big theaters for the mornings/afternoons then swap them again for the evenings (someone dropped a pring of Goldeneye down the stairs like that...luckily it wasnt me). As a viewer, I used to love digital since you could watch it opening night or 3 months in and it would look/sound the same. But now that even Theatrical Only releases are so short it doesnt seem to matter.

[@t123a698]

So, let’s settle this. Was this an adaptation of HG Wells’ War Of the Worlds, or not?!

[@tfpp1]

Simone "gets it". That was my reaction during the destruction scenes, and I suspect many people's reactions. This was one of the first (or maybe even THE first) movie to really, I mean REALLY show the destruction of famous landmark buildings and monuments that represent America. I saw this in the theaters with my dad, and my little brother as young teenagers. And lemme tell ya, as a SoCal native, I can't tell you how unnerving (and cool!) it was seeing that first building blow up. Like, that's my downtown, yo!

[@MichaelScheele]

It was released five years before 9/11. The destruction wrought in this film would not have gone over too well had it been released just after 9/11.

[@tfpp1]

@@MichaelScheele Well duh, of course it wouldn't have gone over well. That's my point, it was different just seeing it, even if it was only a movie.

[@lewisner]

Earth Versus The Flying Saucers did the same thing.

[@jerodast]

@@MichaelScheele At the same time, while _Avengers_ didn't show specific buildings blowing up, it did absolutely wreck NYC overall, and that's obviously incredibly popular. Definitely there was a sensitivity period after 9/11, but I wouldn't say it changed how we look at urban destruction forever or anything like that. It will always be a possibility in a certain kind of blockbuster.

[@jerodast]

(now if you for some reason were setting a movie before 2001 and wanted to show the twin towers themselves getting blown up by aliens, THAT would get some negative attention...)

[@HauntSlider]

Fun trivia.. the US government was willing to help make the entire movie on the grounds that the references to "Area 51" was removed. When the studio said no, the military bowed out. Area 51 is technically the Groom Lake Proving Grounds in Nevada. Longitude / latitude 37.2431° N, 115.7930° W in Google Earth.

[@timstackii]

The city landmarks were models ... for the explosion coming down the street they filmed the model city on its side with the cameera pointing down ... so when the building blew up the explosion went vertically through the streets of the sideways city.

[@davem9208]

When it comes to the showing of the destruction of famous landmarks in the film, it was claimed by the production team that the most technical and difficult one to do was that of the White House, mainly down to the external detail that needed to be visible, along with the shape and size of the building. Because of this, they only had one model available to blow up and film, so there were multiple cameras spread around to get the images, so if any one were to break down when needed there were always other cameras to catch the explosion. Luckily, by the look of this, it worked out okay, but the helicopter didn't stand much chance.

[@SadPeterPan1977]

The best thing about this movie is that there's an alternative ending where Randy Quaid's character blows up the ship with his cropduster bi-plane. The second best thing is that if you've followed Randy Quaid's real life descent into insanity for the last few years and then watch this film again you have to wonder whether he was acting at all.

[@tj_2701]

When they turned the movie into a book they use the biplane.

[@_WillCAD_]

The cropduster scene was in early prints shown to test audiences, and they didn't like the ending, with Russel in the biplane. So Emerich went back and filmed some new scenes with Russel getting sober and flying a Hornet instead of his biplane.

[@agoogleviewer]

there was suppose to be a sequel, but something happened on set, no details where released other than there was some slapping and got cancelled

[@IggyStardust1967]

I gotta toss "Mars Attacks" out there as a suggestion. It's similar, but different enough to be a good experience. It's also got a star studded cast.

[@RobFMDetroit]

I'll second this only as a curiosity that everyone should see at least once. Overall it is NOT a good movie, though it does have a few sporadic moments of pitch black humor. And honestly it's kind of amazing to watch a Tim Burton movie with a star-studded cast go so horribly wrong. 👍🏼

[@wildbronco038]

I agree it's a bad movie despite the A-list cast. But , in my opinion, it falls under the "so bad it's good category."

[@thomasbengtsson4034]

Or 'Paul'...

[@bujin1977]

To counter those saying it's an awful movie, I submit that it isn't awful and is actually quite fun.

[@Hexon66]

Not a huge fan of this movie, but I loved how it turned Simone into Leo Getz at the end... okay, okay, okay...

[@lethallatin5094]

President: “We’re being exterminated” “I love these conclusions” President: What do you want us to do? Alien: Die

[@Keleigh3000]

"Wow, they really hate landmarks." LOL!

[@abramtabor7726]

To clarify: independence day and thanksgiving are dependent based on the family how big of a deal they are, but CHRISTMAS is WAAYYYY in the lead. Such a massive holiday here in the U.S.

[@ThePharaz]

In general I think in order the top 3 US specific holidays are Thanksgiving, Independence Day, and Memorial Day. Christmas and Easter are not specifically US holidays.

[@carladavis1473]

Yes, Thanksgiving is way bigger. They are many people that do nothing for independence day. We just like the day off. Lol! But damn near everybody either has their own Thanksgiving dinner or they go somewhere for Thanksgiving dinner.

[@jerodast]

Yeah fireworks are fun but it's just a 1 night thing. Maybe a couple times in your life you might travel for Independence Day to go to DC or something, but very rare. Thanksgiving travel is omnipresent, and worse than the holidays which are more spread out, yet people do it anyway.. If you're not from a Christian background obviously Christmas isn't too relevant - I'd say that's the one that depends more on family. In my family Christmas was on par with Thanksgiving for awhile, but as presents became less important with the kids grown up, Thanksgiving felt more relevant. We also tended to have more big events at Thanksgiving by doing dinner with family friends, but not so much at Christmas.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Independence Day is the more communal holiday were everyone does things together (parades, outdoor activities, fireworks) while Thanksgiving is probably bigger, but more private as it's with families rather than crowds.

[@peccatumDei]

The nuke didn't work because that's what the writers wanted, but I think if the military wanted to use a nuke against something like that, they'd want to fly it underneath and detonate it under the center, effectively increasing the yield with all the force reflected off the Earth's surface.

[@RichardinNC1]

Never seen Star Trek!! You’ve got to watch the original crew in Star Trek 2,3,&4 (Wrath of Khan, Search For Spock, & Voyage Home). Great movies and they showcase the original cast and themes so well. The next generation shows and movies are good too.

[@woo545]

The best Star Trek moves are the even-numbered ones, assuming you include Galaxy Quest.

[@gregmantis]

I reckon watch a small handful of Original Series episodes to set the stage first. Maybe City on the Edge of Forever, Space Seed, Amok Time and then go into the movies. They're all very enjoyable in themselves and some of them set up a few plot points that make watching the films a bit more rewarding.

[@stevebennett9750]

I don't know how you can call yourself a scientist and not worship at the altar of Roddenberry

[@ChronosTachyon]

@Kristopher Chavez Undiscovered Country! You have good taste.

[@davidf1776]

They should watch all 6. Granted the first is a bit slow paced, but that fly by of the enterprise beautiful.

[@gkiferonhs]

Schlemiel: a person who spills their soup at a fancy dinner party. Schlemozzle: the person on whom the soup spills.

[@janna-renee]

I love the back-and-forth between Jeff Goldblum and Judd Hirsch. Absolutely wonderful. And yes, the scenes of the alien ships destroying so many landmarks are incredible. The work it took for the shot compositing and modelwork must have been staggering.

[@wilsoncalhoun]

Shoulda installed Linux, bro.

[@fallofcamelot]

"Every country values their own independence day" As a British person I can say you're not entirely correct there guys :)

[@tadcooper9733]

You guys are the ones everyone is celebrating independence from lol

[@jamietaylor5570]

Yes, we value the US's independence day instead. Lucky escape, that.

[@fallofcamelot]

@@tadcooper9733 lol pretty much!

[@landersen8173]

You don´t have an independence day but as a dane may I remind you of the romans, saxons, danes and normans?

[@xen0bia]

LOL, yeah when they said that, I was immediately like "Not every country has had to fight for independance.". I mean, Canada became independant entirely peacefully and we don't refer to the 1st of July as "Independance Day", it's simply National Day (and here in Quebec we have a different one called, Saint-Jean-Baptise Day, honoring the foundation of New France [June 24th, 1534], because being mostly of French descent we don't really identify with anglo-saxon history or culture). I think that's what they really meant to say but mispoke.

[@spacewarpphotography1667]

Simone: "If the dog dies, I'm out." Me: Have you ever heard of the movie Cujo?

[@Ani8900]

In the movie theater everyone cheered when the dog survived! It was awesome The whole aliens getting sick is actually a reference to the war of the worlds but that would be interesting if that happened in this movie but I doubt it

[@comicrelieflastlaugh3416]

I can't wait for you two to get around to watching Mars Attacks directed by Tim Burton with an amazing cast filled with celebrity cameos. Alien Invasions coupled with some fun dark comedy elements. This seems right up your alley. Great reaction channel. You two have incredible chemistry and such fun commentary. Here's one way to look at the 4th of July vs Thanksgiving in America. There are more holiday sales of alchohol on the 4th of July while there is more travel for Thanksgiving. Although the day before Thanksgiving is also where alcohol sales go up beacause a ton of people drink prior to seeing family or preparation buying since alot of businesses close on Thanksgiving day. So 4th of July is more of a party celebration while Thanksgiving is more of a family holiday.

[@bodan1196]

@9:30 "We don't declare war on ants." Tell that to people who suffer from ant infestations. There is a very big business called pest control.

[@todgeking]

This is also eerily similar to a quote from the War of the Worlds novel (that Independence Day is heavily based on). “It's just men and ants. There's the ants builds their cities, live their lives, have wars, revolutions, until men want them out of the way, and then they go out of the way. That's what we are now _ just ants.”

[@NewFoxMulder]

they destroy the white crib

[@_WillCAD_]

I love how you guys laughed at all the good jokes and loved the movie immediately on first viewing. I felt the same way in 1996, I left the theater thinking it was one of the best sci-fi movies of the last twenty years. Over the years my opinion hasn't changed; it's the best sci-fi movie of the 1990s. 3:17 FYI: That's Dean Devlin, one of the writers of the film. 10:08 Per Google Maps - from Manhattan to the White House is 3 hours 48 minutes. But in my experience, that's a little low; it's probably more like 4.5 to 5 hours. 10:32 FYI: That's Harry Connick Jr. 12:22 Per Louie De Palma (of Taxi, Judd Hirsch's great 70s-80s TV show): A shlameel is a guy who goes to a formal dinner party and spills his soup. A shlemozel's the guy he spills it on. 14:47 That's a line from the sequel, Independence Day Resurgence; you obviously saw the trailers for that one, even if you haven't seen the movie. 19:03 "And what the hell is that smell!?" was unscripted. The salt flats in Utah where they filmed the scene have brine shrimp that die and stink somethin' awful, and nobody had warned Will Smith about it in advance. 19:41 I saw this movie in the theater in 1996 (and I remember the TREMENDOUS response, everybody LOVED it!), but I never heard anyone mention that idea, that the invasions might be a response to us capturing one of theirs at Roswell. That could have made for a very interesting film. 22:20 Trivia: There were two completely different alien designs created by the art department, and Roland Emerich loved them both, so the script was changed to make one design the aliens, and the other design was the "biometric suits" that they wore. 25:47 Yup, most people in the theater in 1996 assumed that bio weapons would be the answer, since that was how the aliens were defeated in War of the Worlds - they had no resistance to Earthly bacterial and viral diseases. 28:31 That speech was considered highly inspiring in 1996, but over the years people have gradually moved more and more to the opinion that it was cheesey, insipid, contrived, and stupid. Personally, I love the speech and think it was inspiring and maybe even just a touch realistic. 29:59 Maybe their telepathy only works at short ranges. They use radio signals to coordinate their attack, so telepathy can't do everything for them. 34:58 FYI - There are no more Will Smith/Jeff Goldblum movies. But I wish there were. 36:04 They built huge models of the major city streets and landmarks in NYC, LA, and DC, and blew them up for the scenes. But they augmented those scenes with CGI. 36:34 Yup, there's a sequel. Don't waste your time.

[@bard6184]

I understand why people like happy endings, but it would be so cool if just one movie for once ended in utter failure. A movie where the disaster wasn't averted, where humanity didn't prevail - where the aliens annihilated us, consumed everything, and left the Earth completely barren.

[@Harv72b]

Independence Day is traditionally more of a celebratory, party atmosphere. You barbecue, have some beers, and then go watch fireworks or set them off yourself (depending on local laws & how much you respect them). Thanksgiving is traditionally a family-oriented holiday, where you wear your least comfortable clothes then drive long distances so you can eat a huge meal with a bunch of relatives you don't really want to see. Also there's football and a few big parades. So in essence, they're both big deals but for different reasons. I think most Americans look forward to Independence Day more.

[@greenpeasuit]

Least comfortable? You ain't from where I am from. We wear our most comfortable! We gather the people we want to be around, consume shameful amounts of our favorite dishes, either watch football or succumb to a food coma.

[@radicaladz]

As Al Murray would say, Americans see the War of Independence as a victory, whereas the British see it as a lucky fucking escape. ;)

[@tehdouglas1]

@@radicaladz pretty fucking lucky when you consider these dinky 13 colonies became the most powerful and rich country in the world.

[@radicaladz]

@@tehdouglas1 how's the fire damage to the White House doing these days? ;P

[@tehdouglas1]

@@radicaladz The same banking cartel that owns Britain also owns the US now so we are pretty much playing for the same team, global psychopathic multi national corporate overlords hiding under a fake veil of democracy.

[@seantlewis376]

There is a deleted scene where Jeff Goldblum is shown attempting to understand the aliens' signals, and gets an idea of how their computers work. It's as much BS as the way the final edit worked out, but at least it's an explanation for being able to write a virus for their central computer.

[@brei2670]

"That's what I call a close encounter" was a reference to another movie. Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

[@lionhead123]

He introduced the alien to the fourth kind.

[@MonokelJohn]

It's UFO experience related terminology from the 70's, it's not necessarily a reference to the movie.

[@brei2670]

@@MonokelJohn Oh I honestly didn't know that. I've never been into the whole UFO craze. Then again the movie is from 77, so itself is referencing those. Plus you bet it had a huge influence. It coined the term mothership, for example. And there's that scene with the helicopter, flashing those light arrays at one of the alien ships. That's a direct nod to the movie.

[@catsabotage3362]

"it doesn't make sense for an alien who can travel across galaxies to pick a fight with a lesser species" Yeah, I'm sure the various conquered natives of Earth had similar thoughts.

[@alexrobert13]

Goldblum / Smith should do another action, comedy, buddy thing together! Definitely something there between them you can’t write for!

[@jamessmith7959]

There's an independents day 2 , it takes place 25 years after the first

[@robofwonder]

The most important thing that I got from this is that Star Trek TNG needs to be added to the reaction list ASAP!

[@philb3549]

No good, George is a Star Trek racist apparently? 😁 Anway, TNG is pretty naff. It's TOS or nothing.

[@robofwonder]

When it comes to Star Trek, I love the movies and I grew up on TNG and DS9. Apart from a small handful, I can take or leave TOS and everything post DS9. But I am enjoying Lower Decks.

[@logankerlee]

My top fave Star Trek is either TNG or Voyager. Why Voyager? Well, I began watching that as a youngster when it was brand new and I watched each upcoming episode and repeats on tv. Yeah, female captain.. isn't a big deal at all. She did a great job as captain! The show itself was gripping and highly entertaining. Each episode usually contained a new problem or puzzle that nobody has ever seen before (both in Star Trek in general and it was new for viewers as well). Voyager is worth watching!

[@lemonherb1]

Kinda like the Galifrey Gals. One veteran fan, and one newb fan watching TNG

[@Mike-uh5xl]

@@philb3549 Hard disagree with you there. Star Trek got good when Roddenberry died so it's everything post TNG season 5 and nothing else.

[@jamessmith7959]

What do you mean it doesn't make sense to be hostile against more primitive species, we do it all the time, if we want a resource and that species ends up being a problem, we exterminate it, so why wouldn't a more advanced species do that with us, because that scenario could happen, the earth is abundant with all sorts of things.

[@Daveyboy100880]

Such a fun movie! I still watch some of the city destruction scenes over and over because they're so epic. This movie was by far the biggest miniature FX movie in history, and might still be. CG FX were used for most of the background fighter jet action in the aerial battles (using early crowd simulation software), but most of the vehicles and all the explosions and stuff were real models and bangbangs. Very few matte paintings were used though, as the director much preferred miniature backgrounds to painted ones. So much fun!

[@hv3926]

There is. But in real life, they recovered 4 dead aliens, not 3.

[@jillk368]

Schlemiel is a Yiddish word. It kind of means like a doofus or dunce; someone who gets in their own way and isn't too bright about it.

[@alanthebulwark]

On Parks & Rec, Ron explained it as a Schlemiel being someone that spills soup at a party, and a Schlimazel as the person that it gets spilt on. And that Jerry is both.

[@cinemeleon2808]

No, this film is not related to men-in-black. MIB was a year after this film was released. It's just type-casting on Will Smith's part or he signed

[@Don113]

The most plausible explanation for Area 51 (the real life version) is that it is (possibly) a testing site for prototype USAF aircraft. If you take a look at some of the current and past USAF inventory, planes like the B2 Spirit (which features a fairly unique flying wing shape) and the SR-71 Blackbird (which as of 2021 still holds the record for fastest air-breathing manned aircraft, a record it has held since 1976) you can understand why UFO sightings around Area 51 became a thing. A popular theory is that the Air Force purposely encouraged alien theories to distract the public while simultaneously discrediting any serious observer as a crazy loon obsessed with UFOs. Given how popular it has become I don't find it likely that the Air Force still tests highly sensitive equipment there, although it is still heavily guarded. As in, the guards can shoot you if you trespass and it would be a lawful shooting, although I'd imagine that that would go for any sensitive military base. Interestingly, supposedly defunct aircraft like the F117 Nighthawk have been spotted fairly recently flying around there. As for why, your guess is as good as mine.

[@markcarpenter6020]

My guess is modern testing is probably done in either Alaska or Antarctica and area 51 is kept going as a distraction. Though I do know for a fact some army testing is done in Alabama. When I was a teen I lived near where the army was testing stealth helicopters.(they never could get the thermal shielding right). And saw them sometimes. They usually flew at night right around treetop lvl when traveling to the test ranges. What was awesome was how quiet they were. A normal chopper makes a lot of noise because the rotors break the sound barrier when spinning. They stealth copter had notches in the rotors to keep them from creating a sonic boom and were whisper quiet in comparison.

[@SpearM3064]

@Don113 The first paragraph is exactly correct. The U-2, A-12, B-2 Spirit, the SR-71 Blackbird, and the F-117 Nighthawk were all developed there. It was, _and still is_ (yes, they still test top secret equipment there), an Air Force skunkworks facility. It's also part of Nellis Air Force Base. That's why the F-117 has been spotted flying around there... even though they've been retired from front-line duty, they're still used as training aircraft.

[@lewisner]

Or Jeffrey Epstein held parties there.

[@cinemeleon2808]

It's intriguing to watch people who didn't grow up with this movie or aren't familiar with the American film industry's obsession (at one point) with 'save the world'/ 'end-of-the-world' type movies, discussing what they think this film could be about. I love it. Similar to this is: 'War of the Worlds' w/ Tom Cruise; 'Deep Impact' with Tea Leoni, Elijah Wood & Morgan Freeman; 'The Day After Tomorrow' with Jake Gyllenhaal & Dennis Quaid

[@heatherrose5594]

Saw this in theaters. They really should have had recruiters outside the doors as people walked out! Everyone felt pumped up and patriotic! 😄

[@necrophiliacin_lace628]

Don't know if someone might have answered already, but there are Schlemiels and Schlimazels, a schlemiel is somebody who goes to a $100 a plate dinner and spills his soup and a schlimazel is the person he spills it on.

[@Yugioh420]

That's probably one of the best speeches in cinematic history for a rallying speach.

[@agp11001]

Everybody needs an Overly Enthusiastic Salute Guy in their life.

[@Yugioh420]

@agp11001 true, and since it was a salute to the people of the world instead of Just the US it had more of an us VS them with the Us being all of Humanity for the first time every

[@necrophiliacin_lace628]

What's bigger in America, Independence Day or Thanks Giving? it all depends on your waistline

[@Smokie_666]

Amazing movie reaction! Also,.... as a friend, you need to watch Star Trek, George. At least the movies. I have faith you'll see them! Also, there was a whole scene that was removed where David learned about their systems and code and that's how he made the virus.

[@gswithen]

Saw this in the theaters when it came out and it was garbage then and it's garbage now.

[@Flamefox20]

This movie has one of the best speeches I have seen in any movie to date. I still get chills when I hear it!

[@Engy_Wuck]

IIRC we had facepalming all over the movie theatre because of its cheesy patriotism. And then "our independence day" - but needing the whole world to fight... so making the world effort a US-success? Really?

[@jerodast]

@@Engy_Wuck He literally says the US won't even celebrate its own independence day anymore because the united world effort is so much more important. What are you even talking about. But yes of course it's cheesy patriotism haha. It's a cheesy movie and he's giving a speech to the American military, what would you expect?

[@Engy_Wuck]

@@jerodastthen you listened to another movie - he expected the *world* to celebrtate the (US) independence day in the future. At least that's how I interpret "the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday but as the day when the world declared in one voice, '[...]Today we celebrate our Independence Day!'”

[@YorkshiremanReacts26]

What's wrong with patriotism you knob? I bet you're a democrat...🤦‍♂😑😒@@Engy_Wuck

[@Spacehog1981]

I feel like you 2 are far too trusting of the aliens beforehand. You might have been on the skyscraper welcoming them with those who immediately got fried.

[@dennismoore3383]

I always enjoyed Jeff Goldbum reprising his line from Jurassic Park, "Must go faster!" This movies was fun to see on the big screen when it came out.

[@Twigpi]

Really hard to say which holiday is bigger here. Both holidays has its haters. And it depends on what metric you use to measure. Thanksgiving is big with gathering families together and it was always a bigger shame to not get off of work for that holiday. But Independence Day is much louder and probably sells way more decorations. Christmas overshadows and crowds out Halloween and Thanksgiving.