Cinema 4D Tutorial - Converting Physical Renderer Scenes for Octane Render

[@brianstruble49]

wow - just purchased Octane - this was one of the best and most-concise walkthroughs I've seen. Please keep them coming!

[@eyedesyn]

So good to hear, Brian! Thanks for watching!

[@francismoshe5150]

i know Im kind of randomly asking but does anybody know of a good place to watch newly released series online ?

[@raylanjosue7737]

@Francis Moshe Flixportal :P

[@francismoshe5150]

@Raylan Josue thanks, I signed up and it seems like a nice service =) I really appreciate it !

[@raylanjosue7737]

@Francis Moshe Glad I could help :D

[@onkelsort5381]

Just thought I’d drop a line saying your tutorials are absolutely awesome David.

[@scoobiom]

Great to see Eyedesyn dipping into Octane - and great to see David sharing his knowledge - love your stuff on Brograph!

[@octanejesus]

Thanks dude!!

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks for showing Dave some love! He has a lot of knowledge to share, believe me! :)

[@rockaFORCE]

David is the man! I wish I had this when I started using Octane last year, but I still learned a lot. Keep them coming!

[@octanejesus]

Thanks Nick!! No, YOU'RE the man!

[@eyedesyn]

David is the manliest man I know.

[@rockaFORCE]

Haha - a little too macho at times (tone it down)

[@octanejesus]

Hey sorry guys, my pecs have taken a life of their own and are consuming food and gaining knowledge without my permission. There's no real turning back at this point.

[@eyedesyn]

He's lying, they're implants.

[@Oddernod]

Lots more of these please! Great stuff.

[@octanejesus]

Thanks Ryan! I'm on it!

[@eyedesyn]

Yeah buddy! Great to see you in the comments, Ryan!

[@detore]

+abillion

[@Teheiron]

Last I saw David's tutorial I learned a bunch so it would be cool to see more of them :D

[@eyedesyn]

You'll definitely be seeing more from David! He's got another Octane tutorial coming soon!

[@Nigel-design]

diggin in octane for about two weeks...best video so far about it...

[@octanejesus]

sweet!

[@eyedesyn]

Heck yeah! Thanks Nigel, David definitely knows his stuff!

[@_caseyv_]

This is awesome David Ariew & EJ! Keep up the octane tutorials. more more more! :)

[@eyedesyn]

Definitely more to come! Glad you're digging them!

[@tiagocardoso4434]

welcome David..we def want to see more octane tuts ;) Bring it on!!

[@hieranchauhan5882]

Fantastic tutorial David. Would love to see more Octane tutorials. Maybe something around volumes (smoke / fire ...) Just a suggestion, im sure what ever you do next will be awesome. Thanks EJ for introducing a new CG artist to us.

[@octanejesus]

Thanks a ton! I'll absolutely do a tutorial on volumetrics in Octane!

[@eyedesyn]

Great suggestions, Hieran! And thanks for welcoming David and the kind words! Cheers!

[@mnmlistik]

Thank you David! this was incredibly comprehensive, very well explained! looking forward to more videos :)

[@octanejesus]

Glad to hear it! This is just scratching the surface.

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks for sending the love to David, glad you enjoyed this!

[@cellacyben101]

This was great please keep them coming. It would be great to learn more advanced nodes with Octane.

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks Shannon! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@valenteb3p]

Great stuff. Definitely more of these

[@arstyyy]

This dude what he's talking about. Excellent instructor

[@FullHPetrol]

YEY! More Octane tutorials pls!

[@octanejesus]

will do!

[@eyedesyn]

Glad you dug this one from David!! Thanks for watching!

[@s123ge]

Excellent ! thank you. We certainly need more high quality octane tutorials like this. complex multi-layer materials maybe ?

[@octanejesus]

Sounds great! I'd like to do a tutorial on going through and building a bunch of different materials, including some mix materials!

[@flamefeather01]

Awesome! Can't wait to see more! XP and Octane maybe? Thanks guys!

[@octanejesus]

Totally!

[@deepbluezen4751]

Enjoyed that, liked the little hints and tips a lot, like it taking the octane sky in order didn't know that, neat hack :)

[@octanejesus]

Sweet, yeah next best thing to getting GSG Link.

[@d.w.5144]

My English is not the best but I can understand you very well. I deal with CGI just for fun. Your tutorials, however, fascinate me enormously. I remember CGI with Lightwave about 10 years ago. So slow but fascinating. Guys continues to do so perfect work. Volumetric light in octane would interest me very much, as well as doe co-operation with XParticles and TurbolanceFD. Greetings from Germany

[@TechWizeGuy]

David is a octane wizard and we need more tuts!

[@eyedesyn]

They do call David the Harry Potter of Octane. More to come from him soon! :)

[@TechWizeGuy]

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[@eyedesyn]

Thanks for the sub, Brad!!!

[@kyukkkkyu]

this is amazing! the right one that i have found !!! plz make more video about octane rendering🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@wnepcreativeservices3838]

Keep em coming!

[@raidZer0]

Legend! this is sooo relevant

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks! David's going to be dropping some serious Octane knowledge in the coming weeks!

[@octanejesus]

Glad to hear it!

[@baldoski]

More C4D+Octane, please! :)

[@eyedesyn]

David's got a lot more to come! :)

[@voodoorampager]

a little correction david: direct lighting is not biased. it just dont use any secondary bounces for GI. this is most evident when u have multiple layers of glass or light something behind glass

[@octanejesus]

Hey so I checked into this further, but it's still my understanding that DL is biased, whereas PT and PMC are unbiased. For instance, look at the bottom of this thread: render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=45622&p=228625&hilit=Direct+Lighting+biased#p228625 As for the glass thing, you can fix that by turning on fake shadows, and you can also crank the specular depth in DL mode, though I'm not sure if that will give you as good of a result. I am pretty sure DL is calculating multiple bounces though, as those are sliders in diffuse, glossy, and spec depth that you can crank, which represent the number of bounces.

[@voodoorampager]

Hey david. Its still unbiased in a way it still a brute force method...it doesn't quantize or cash as far as i know. It just doesnt do the secondary bounces. In any case im a big fan of ur work :) looking forward for more tutorials 👍🏻

[@SixStringStudioAB]

Love it, keep it coming. Can you make a animated render with Octane tutorial?

[@eyedesyn]

More Octane tuts to come, for sure!

[@OnParRadio]

Very useful. Thanks.

[@octanejesus]

No problem Anthony!

[@yuchen3297]

you guys are great!

[@octanejesus]

no YOU are!

[@eyedesyn]

David's the MAN!

[@andrearusky]

Welcome David! Thanks for the Tutorial! P.S. Your selfie video was so shaky that made me a bit dizzy :-P

[@eyedesyn]

David's gotta stop making his selfie video while drunk! ;)

[@Tony_Zagoraios]

Great one!! Really informative..:)

[@octanejesus]

Awesome, glad to hear it!

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks for watching Tony!

[@Rimbaure]

So nice !! :) Do u prepare the same tutorial for Arnold ?? :D Thanks EJ !

[@octanejesus]

I ain't used Arnold. $$$$$ and up to my eyeballs in CPUs if I wanted to do that. Sorry!

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks for watching Aurel! I'm sure it's hard for people to learn all 3rd party renderers inside and out, but I know Chad at GSG is all about arnold!

[@khaledfarid3038]

Nice tutorial, Can u do a compositing tutorial with octane and learns some multi passes and compositing tags to go in after effects? I never used octane but i need to learn it for a long time and tut really pushing me to learn it because I am using physical render already, Thanks 👍🏻

[@octanejesus]

Sure thing buddy!

[@eyedesyn]

Great tutorial suggestion, Khaled!

[@voodoorampager]

more octane and david please! :)

[@octanejesus]

It's coming! Thanks buddy!

[@eyedesyn]

More to come for sure!

[@css2a]

thanks bro, its helpful for me!

[@joannegrullon2952]

This is great!

[@greekboi357]

Could you show sometime how to make light scattering on surfaces? Using the physical renderer?

[@mkislov]

Good stuff!

[@covershowchan]

Thank you for your incredible work. I've been learning so much from you. Have you tried "new" vray for c4d (3.4) btw? I find it much more comfortable than octane now. It has got some cool features, super fast "live viewer" as well.

[@eyedesyn]

Send you thanks to David, he rocked this tutorial! I'm not sure about VRAY, never used it. Perhaps David can speak to that!

[@octanejesus]

I used Vray for c4d on a project back in the day but the render times were so insane (1 hour per frame kind of thing) that I never really got into it. It was also difficult to set up materials and I was overwhelmed by the complexity. Vray for c4d has also, in general, been years behind the official Vray for Max and Maya, and in the grand scheme of things, looks to be losing favor. Octane has a huge community, is blazing fast, and is pretty easy to pick up and learn. Arnold, Redshift, and potentially Cycles, seem to be the biggest contenders at this point, unless you're in Max or Maya where Vray is still totally legit and awesome.

[@MrMeeezo]

That's actually the answer that I was looking for .. A friend of mine who is a Max user introduced me to the V-Ray Rendrer for C4D, it was nice overall , but it was overwhelming , very complex ,and also way behind the V-ray for max , just as you described ... so I started digging into other renderers .. I see Octane is the best option for C4D till now .. now if you could make a tutorial about how to render animations for compositing in AE , and Multi-Pass renders ... I think i'll be able to make my final decision and go with Octane all the way :D

[@octanejesus]

Awesome! Yeah a multipass compositing tutorial is on the list for sure!

[@adamfilipowicz9260]

The current Vray for C4D is very close feature wise to the Max version. there Instant GPU Preview is still fairly new and not that far along but they are making great progress. I Love Vray and Octane

[@MRTOXICO305]

Thanks for sharing guys! Any plans to do the same for Vray?

[@spikespiegel5569]

Moreeeee octane please!

[@eyedesyn]

Nice! Glad you liked this one! more to come from David for sure! :)

[@octanejesus]

Yep I'll keep churnin' em out!

[@Friedrich-iss]

nice tutorial ! may I know ur laptop spec?

[@guristoski2625]

All I get is a black screen and octane latest c4d C23 does not convert them on the fly doing convert mats does nothing. adding an octane camera does nothing

[@YUNGNICKI]

good

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks Nicki! Always good to see you in the comments!

[@YUNGNICKI]

eyedesyn hahaha ☺

[@ggyun]

Could you tell me how could I set up the interface like urs with octane ?? thx

[@octanejesus]

Here's the layout file! www.dropbox.com/s/tfao1p68zmnp4i7/AWESOME%203.l4d?dl=0

[@Jebesniper]

is there any way to convert octane materials to c4d so that i can export it to keyshot ?

[@greekboi357]

David, EJ, which is the best renderer that Cinema 4D has, Octane or Physical?

[@greekboi357]

Also, thanks for the tutorial. It is awesome! I also love how calm your voices are!

[@greekboi357]

Sonething that is really helpful in C4D is that there is no need for UV mapping, unwrapping etc, that other programmes needed like 3Ds Max or Blender or Maya

[@octanejesus]

haha glad to hear it

[@octanejesus]

you can actually UV unwrap, and in many cases that workflow will get you the best results (especially going to substance designer and painter for instance), but it's true that not many artists do it, and you can often get away with just a cubic (box in octane language) projection.

[@eyedesyn]

Octane is by far and away faster. Physical is nice in that it's 100% compatible with everything in Cinema 4D, but it's not enough to justify waiting for those long render times. Time is money! No one wants to spend their lives looking at slow render buckets!!!! :)

[@sidlake5954]

When I converted a material as you did I dont have a Emission settings there. Only if I create a new oct_material. Can anyone help me?

[@kevinkuo3156]

How do I create gel like texture with Octane?

[@adamfilipowicz9260]

Why is my Octane preview darker then my octane final render?

[@vadimfedenko]

your beard looks like you applied cartoon effect to it!

[@octanejesus]

SKETCH AND TOON BEARD GOOOOO

[@eyedesyn]

Hahahaha!!!! Sketch and Toon beards are my favorite beards!

[@sharpspike06]

No EJ please go against the grain and become an Arnold Renderer expert so you can enlighten us little people with your insights!

[@eyedesyn]

I'll be an expert of whatever renderer is being used the most by the time I get my PC! :)

[@AshleyGloverVivimagic]

To be fair Arnold is a more expensive product. It has defiantly proven its' weight being used for projects like the Lego Movie but I can defiantly say Octanes price point makes it great for freelancers and small studios. Thus the reason why it seems a bit more popular.

[@goodhore]

hey, can you upload your layout file?

[@octanejesus]

www.dropbox.com/s/tfao1p68zmnp4i7/AWESOME%203.l4d?dl=0

[@akvh]

No octain : (

[@eyedesyn]

no worries, i'll be keeping the regular C4D tutorials coming as well! :)

[@octanejesus]

$20 a month for Octane VR! It's a full version. The only caveat is you can't use more than 2 GPUs. Check it out: home.otoy.com/render/octane-render/subscriptions/

[@韦斌-f7m]

Hey bor! I need octane

[@eyedesyn]

go buy it yo!

[@kaktamdela]

WE WONT REDSHIFT !!!!!!!!!!

[@eyedesyn]

Eeeeeeeveryones talkin about Redshift lately!! :)

[@octanejesus]

Yeah Redshift seems cool too, but I already know Octane and I'm lazy.

[@cgpov]

lazy?! Boo

[@octanejesus]

get outta here Chad! Go back to GSG where ya belong!!

[@cgpov]

NEVER!! 😎