Cinema 4D Tutorial - Using Displacement in Octane Render

In Part 2 of this 2 part tutorial series, David Ariew shows you how to use Otoy Octane Render's fantastic Displacement features to make complex greeble style surface geometry in Cinema 4D using 8K displacement maps he made in Illustrator.
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Using Displacement in Octane Render Topics Include:
• Using the Displacement feature in Octane Render
• Create complex surface geometry with an 8K Displacement Map
• Useful tips and tricks for using Displacement in Octane Render
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[@anstykarkada]

this was so beautiful to watch. very few people tinker with the abstract part in a 3d rendering software and this was a delight to watch.thankyou

[@flashgiz1]

Definitely one of the best octane tutorials out there. I've learned so much. Thanks!

[@eyedesyn]

Great to hear! thanks for watching!!

[@mtpstyles]

Fantastic walkthrough mates! Really enjoy watching this! Keep it up David & EJ!

[@sydvaughn.c4d]

Love love love these tutorials for octane! Please keep them coming!

[@eyedesyn]

Davids gonna keep rocking the Octane tutorials and once I'm on octane next month, and David teaches me, I hope to do an Octane tutorial in the future too! :)

[@vectorstain]

These tutorials on Octane are amazing. Please keep them coming!

[@eyedesyn]

Definitely will! Thanks for watching, Josh!!

[@flamefeather01]

Great video guys! I was expecting just a displacement tutorial but I got a lot more tips and tricks! Worth the wait.

[@eyedesyn]

Glad you enjoyed it, John!

[@_caseyv_]

Awesome tutorial again guys! Octane makes displacement look like an absolute breeze! Also, Greebler! why did i not know about this?!

[@ahmedshakib3883]

Magnifico, can't wait for the next one,I am really curious about the next tutorial, so far my expectations have been surpassed.Great job mate, keep up the great work :).

[@eyedesyn]

Glad you enjoyed it, Ahmed!

[@joransrb]

this is so awesome, thanks for all the great Octane tutorials, really learning a lot :) Keep up the good work

[@diegomeza3204]

you are an excellent teacher! thanks... been wanting octane for a while but been kinda intimidated to get it but this really helps me make that decision

[@cellacyben101]

3rd tut in 3 hours with this talented guy and I am very impressed.

[@eyedesyn]

David dropping knowledge bombs all over the place!

[@kasperrubin5754]

Really like how you tweak simple elements using just a bit of illustrating and some hefty skills in octane!

[@octanejesus]

Thanks!!

[@dnlarts]

Fanstastic tutorial. Thank you for taking your time to make it

[@raidZer0]

This is a cool tutorial! it's beginning to be a good little series! looking forward to the next one and meeting you guys at half rez!

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks man! Glad you're enjoying them! Heck yeah, huge nerd-out at HalfRez!

[@octanejesus]

Hell yeah dude! Can't believe you're coming all the way across the pond! Really glad you're digging these and can't wait to meet you!

[@BuriedinDisguise]

Wow super fun to watch. Very interesting and cool to see other people work. I can't wait to try some of these displacement techniques myself. Thanks so much for making this for us to see. I'd love to see some more techniques.

[@rajeshkumbhar7437]

I've been waiting all day for this part...!!! Thank you :)

[@eyedesyn]

Enjoy!

[@rajeshkumbhar7437]

Enjoyed a lot 😊 This is really Amazing !!!! want more tutorials like these 😊

[@eyedesyn]

More to come for sure!

[@artemiyvintovkin9493]

It's a very usefull tutorial! Thanks!

[@GLYNDYER]

I really enjoyed this. Great tutorials.

[@eyedesyn]

Awesome, thanks for watching Glyn!

[@joelhimself3d12]

What a great tutorial, I´ve learned a lot, THANK YOU!!!!

[@alexkid441]

Awesome tut

[@sMw89]

I need more of this!

[@FranciscoNunesDesigner]

I really like this tut, thanks dude!

[@agustinmartinez8251]

amazing tutorial love it

[@alenu88]

Nice tut:) Keep them coming! Octane fan:)

[@giacomocastellano-official]

ok, time do dig into cinema4d, thanks! One of the most amazing tuts I've seen!

[@eyedesyn]

Greeble it up!

[@ArgoBeats]

David, you are THE man!

[@octanejesus]

haha thanks!!

[@veljkolemonade]

oh yeah, forgot to say, fantastic tutorial! :)

[@TheRyDesigns]

Thank you! Great tutorial!

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks for watching!

[@BubbleApe]

Thank you for my usefulness！

[@mashable8759]

EKTACHROME camera thing was super awesomee mann

[@Omarghasmane]

You are my hero in c4d thenks

[@tarantino252]

Great tutorial for Octane users. Could you share the Roughness map?

[@alfredmb]

Cool David ! I'm gonna make it !

[@eyedesyn]

Good luck!

[@swordartdesign]

Tks for awesome tutorial video, talent and very kind with share your skill... in my country they alway hide thier skill... Realy tks alot bro!

[@GraemeSmillie]

Part 2 didn't disappoint! I only subscribed to Octane VR after watching a video from eyedesyn as i thought you had to buy it. I have just finished watching this tutorial and am ready to get stuck in. Can't thank you enough for taking the time to make this. The big question is, what will you do for your next one!?!?! :)

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks Graeme! David's got a ton of ideas for more Octane tutorials so don't you worry!

[@GraemeSmillie]

Can't wait. Thanks both for all your efforts. Only started learning C4D in Feb and couldn't have done it without your tutorials.

[@eyedesyn]

Awesome to hear! Glad we could help you along in your journey!

[@RileyBrownMusic]

You're my spirit animal. Thank you.

[@octanejesus]

Thanks Riley!

[@rockaFORCE]

Dropped wacom pen - starting slow clap... Once again, thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@octanejesus]

hahaha thanks Nick!

[@mashable8759]

DUDEEE YOU ARE AMAZINNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[@mashable8759]

both of you fk off

[@borisbouwmeester7447]

Amazing intro

[@trojanboy8]

Great tutorial. i was wondering if you can just make a 5 mins tutorial with this same project trying to add luminance on the displacement edges

[@xaynex7394]

Awesome Tutorial , is it possible in arnold too?

[@user-ke1kv9tg7t]

Great tutorial! Would you please let me know where I can find the octane material? thanks a bunch!

[@leobraz2005]

Nice and smooth! Can I convert a Displacement map into a mesh ? thanks

[@senz1586]

nice tutorial, subs

[@BelieveInUrself93]

Genius.

[@charliemcneill6900]

ty bro!

[@eyedesyn]

thank you!

[@TheGreensticker]

thanks

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks for watching!

[@flamefeather01]

Finally got some time to follow along this awesome tutorial not just watching it. Got a noobie question though when I put displacement texture to the cube(or any parametric geo). The cube geometry separates out each other?

[@flamefeather01]

Ahh ok got it! used the Mid level @19:51 on the video. Sorry overeacted early. hahaha

[@ukaszkondek807]

Awesome as always !!! Although I was wondering if maybe some more advanced "displacement problem solving" tutorial could be done? Octane has some problems with it, and sometimes it's quite hard to get around it with more complicated objects, even after unwrapping UV's. Would be cool to see something like that. Thanks!

[@eyedesyn]

Lukasz, always so demanding! ;) We'll see if David wants to tackle that! :)

[@octanejesus]

Yeah Octane has known displacement issues with more complex models where it comes apart at the seams. The best solution is just some third party software by Phantom, but it's weird and not terribly accessible (render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=55306). Wish OTOY would just fix their shit.

[@ukaszkondek807]

Don't get me wrong even because I'm using Octane render for years now I still was able to pick up some little things thanks to tutorials from You guys, so I do appreciate them greatly. It's a quality content. It's just that there always is something more to learn, and advanced kind of info is quite hard to get :D

[@ukaszkondek807]

Yeah I've seen this phantom thingy, but wasn't really convinced to give it a shot, maybe I should. Thanks for the answer David!

[@edmungbean]

This was great, David... Where'd you find beeple's Supergreeb tex?

[@octanejesus]

Look in the first part of the tutorial and I show you where to download. Just go to beeplecrap.com and download any of his project files and dig around. It's all over the place!

[@DKindenssFilms]

THANK U

[@eyedesyn]

Thanks for watching!

[@DKindenssFilms]

you have no idea how timely this was legit life saver!

[@Crimsonpattyletsplay]

Do you know anyway you could recreate something like this with the normal renderd or the physical one? its all i can use!

[@BeyondtheLens]

VERY awesome tutorial. I have one question though. How to get back the DOF. It seems to be lost in the settings with the long focal length. Tweeking with the aperture numbers does not do anything. Any ideas?

[@octanejesus]

Thanks! Maybe you need to overdrive the aperture numbers. Keep in mind the slider only goes so far, but you can punch in whatever number you want.

[@user-hg8co2sw2c]

Very impressive Good jop

[@keepshinein]

Hey when I turn up the displacement amount it starts to look choppy in places. Is there any way to clean it up and make it look cleaner ?

[@octanejesus]

Yes, actually I just learned this yesterday and wish I'd been able to put it in the tutorial. Under the displacement texture, there's an option for "filter type" and choose Gaussian, then set it to 1 or 2. Basically a blur that should smooth out those janky edges!

[@dawnbennichan5895]

Hey.I have a question.The displacement map works perfectly with the live viewer,but when the final render comes out,it's just a plain surface again.Any thoughts?.

[@voodoorampager]

its confirmed. jesus use Octane! ;) Great stuff david

[@eyedesyn]

Octane Jesus!

[@MartinLemairee]

awesome ! I'm really curious to know, what gpu are you using ?

[@octanejesus]

In this one I'm just using 2 x 980tis. Usually I've got 3 x 980tis and a 780ti in my main system, but I'm in the process of moving to San Diego, so I don't have my full setup.

[@yoonsiklevijoo9255]

I don't understand why your light and mine are different? Mine is just white rectangular and your looks like real light with diffusion. What is the different? How did you render setting?

[@IlianHelendi]

Hello, sorry for my bad english I have question about displasment. When i create tube and put tech displasment, it got not the texture on but it crashes like displasment? How can can i do to get not crash but displasment texture on?

[@anthonyabbott5752]

Anyone have issues with displacement using multiple images together? Unless it's just a single texture piped into the displacement I can't get it to work. (*Great tutorial David) Jumping back into Octane after a few years in redshift and loving it. Just can't get anything to work past a single texture or noise piped into displacement.

[@mashable8759]

Hi can you please tell me how to save this in the highest quality? so i can upload it?

[@puke1523]

Damn, your object that uses a bump map, which is now essentially just a bump map's bumps are using a whole new bump map to bump out the bump map of your bumps

[@tfk884]

could you share your supergreeb texture?

[@mashable8759]

bro it's on the website freeee

[@bassmania01]

Hello, could you make the same tuto with redshift?

[@pineapplepen3542]

Is it because of the renderer which is octane in this case that you don't need a crazy amount of polygons in order to use displacement map? Cause what I know is that in order to use displacement map you need to subdivide your model. The more detailed the map is, the more polygons must be presented in order to use displacement map.

[@octanejesus]

That's true for Physical renderer, but not true for Octane. You can have a single polygon with an 8K displacement map and get all of the detail of that map presented. It's an amazing way to conserve on geometry, which really helps keep the scene sizes low and frees up your VRAM, which is your bottleneck for scene size with GPU rendering (unless you're using out of core geo which overflows to the RAM, but then you lose speed)

[@pineapplepen3542]

How amazing it is when octane can do that compared to other renderers. Thanks anyways

[@sachasafretti3012]

hi where I can find 360 hdri like the one you used?

[@3D-PHASE]

0´50" Where did you get this amazing displacement map from? I searched and searched wo success. I tried to make one like this by myself but I´m too nooby. Great tutorial by the way - I learned a lot.... and it would be so great to get similar results but without this map it seems hopeless. :-(

[@eyedesyn]

Hey there! There's a list of resources that you can find these displacement maps listed in the video description!

[@3D-PHASE]

Thanks. I couldn´t find that special texture even on the linked sites. No prob - try to do it by myself.

[@abuaysam6459]

very helpfull , thanks can you share your layout 🤗

[@octanejesus]

www.dropbox.com/s/tfao1p68zmnp4i7/AWESOME%203.l4d?dl=0

[@ursroymustang]

Can we do this with vray or redshift ?.. octane is expensive man 😭

[@adnan0343]

can this only be done via octane and not physical render displacer ?

[@eyedesyn]

This type of effect is a feature only available on Octane at the moment. Something like this would take a very long time to calculate in C4D without it.

[@xplorer3475]

fucking amazing

[@ianalvarez9084]

when I add a light Im not getting that lens flare type effect. Can you tell me what im doing wrong?

[@octanejesus]

make sure you're using an octane camera, then go into the octane camera tag and then post processing tab, and dial up the bloom setting a bit.

[@ianalvarez9084]

I actually found that shortly after asking. Thanx for taking the time to respond though!!

[@octanejesus]

No problem man!

[@Amorstopineed]

Hello my friends! I am thinking about buying octacen for architecture renderings. But there are also different engines; like corona, V-ray, i-ray, Arnold or thea render. What do you know about these render engines? I have a closer look on Octane, because i got a nice video card from G-Force (980 Ti) and Octance is in contrast to the other engines able to work with the GPU.

[@eyedesyn]

Not too much! Octane is known as being the easiest to use, but it's all about what you need the renderer to do and what works best for you! Just like why use C4D vs. Max, Maya, etc...

[@Ekfantos]

hey eye, can you do something similar in arnold for c4d?

[@eyedesyn]

Neither I nor David use Arnold so I'd go bug Chad over at GSG for something like that! :)

[@xskaneki9357]

What computer do you use?

[@solidsoulart]

"I think I'm happy... I'm never happy... I'm depressed" - David Ariew

[@alidenver787]

i realize it's kinda randomly asking but does anybody know a good website to stream new movies online ?

[@waynealvin4663]

@Ali Denver try flixzone. Just search on google for it =)

[@emmanuelalexzander304]

@Wayne Alvin Yea, I've been using Flixzone for months myself :)

[@alidenver787]

@Wayne Alvin thank you, I signed up and it seems like a nice service :D I appreciate it !

[@waynealvin4663]

@Ali Denver no problem :)

[@GLYNDYER]

When was Octane 3.06 released?

[@octanejesus]

Glyn Dyer yep you gotta go on the C4D forum to download

[@cburg]

is there anyway of getting these sharp displacements without Octane? I've been using the displacer effector and it produces really smooth displacements. Looks horrible.

[@eyedesyn]

As far as I know, this is a feature of Octane and only Octane at this point

[@michaelmj5584]

can it be done in redshift? sorry for noob question,I'm not a professional at this

[@eyedesyn]

As of right now, I don't believe so

[@SkullTraill]

Can this be done with Redshift?

[@eyedesyn]

Redshift AFAIK doesn't have anything like this, this sort of displacement effect is a Octane only effect

[@falseee4445]

Hello, can someone give me the link to the displacmeent map? Im kinda lazy to do the first part :)

[@MegaGmail007]

just use jsdisplacement :)

[@falseee4445]

@@MegaGmail007 thx

[@Bleepurchin]

Great tutorial with many useful tips! However, it's been a while since I've searched online for 'Octane Displacement issue' and sure enough I am very disappointed to find that there is still the same problem where the edges of objects break apart when using displacement. You breeze right over this making it seem like a non issue - just like Otoy themselves - or so it seems! In my opinion, it is without doubt the biggest, most fundamental flaw of Octane and prevents it being the best render engine out there. How it wasn't the most important fix in version 3 is baffling to me! Is there any point in creating anything other than mountainous landscapes with Octane displacement? ... not that I can see! If you've got a really complicated object and you dare apply displacement to it, prepare to be disappointed and frustrated! Will they fix it for version 4?? - I sure hope so! Cheers. L.

[@FluxedEdge]

Under displacement you have to adjust the "mid level"! :)

[@veljkolemonade]

is there a way you could send me your octane/cinema layout setup ?

[@octanejesus]

Sure! www.dropbox.com/s/tfao1p68zmnp4i7/AWESOME%203.l4d?dl=0

[@veljkolemonade]

thats great! thank you:)

[@zaneaustin22]

How would i do this without Octane?

[@detore]

I also name everything in caps :D

[@octanejesus]

underscores are for people who care

[@eyedesyn]

LOUD NOISES_FINAL.MOV

[@vik8860]

How can i use the displacement without octane ? just dropping it into the displacement doesn't work .

[@eyedesyn]

You need to turn on Subpolygon displacement in C4D, just a warning though...its pretty slow

[@vik8860]

eyedesyn thnx man, will try it out .

[@Crimsonpattyletsplay]

sigh this is so cool :/... octane looks so amazing.

[@octanejesus]

$20/month for Octane! Or is the issue owning an NVIDIA GPU?

[@Crimsonpattyletsplay]

ow you cant use octane with an NVIDIA card? :(!!! i might be able to make some extra money to be able to pay for it per month but i use an nvidia card so will it work?

[@octanejesus]

Sorry to confuse you! You can't use Octane WITHOUT an NVIDIA card, so you're good!!

[@Crimsonpattyletsplay]

Thank god haha! yer im planning on investing in some stuff from the grayscale gorilla sale so i might just pay the £20 a month till i can afford a full release!

[@octanejesus]

awesome!

[@jessicajessica4514]

Can i make this without octane

[@eyedesyn]

This kind of displacement is native to only octane render at this point

[@abdulrahmanalghamdi9735]

I have a question, can I do this in other render ?

[@eyedesyn]

Good question, since we only work in Octane we wouldn't know.

[@abdulrahmanalghamdi9735]

This is really a problem, your channel is beautiful, but there are many working on, non-octane

[@eyedesyn]

Is it a problem that McDonalds doesn't serve pizza? A lot of people like pizza! :) Many are working on non-Octane but for David and I, we only are learning and using Octane for now. Plenty of other channels out there that do other renderers but again for now, this channel will have native C4D renderer and Octane. The moment we make a VRay tutorial, someone will say "Hey! Make Redshift!" Then we make a Redshift and people say "Hey, make an Arnold tutorial!" Make Arnold...people say "Hey, what about Octane! Do Octane again!" Can't make everyone happy! :)

[@abdulrahmanalghamdi9735]

I agree with you, and thank you as well, but you must clarify the differences, in all the render can do what you want, but the clarification of the fundamental differences is important, however I will try to apply this lesson in Arnold , and I will show you that thx u

[@nizzoh]

[@jonm2459]

octane + AMD when?

[@octanejesus]

Might not happen at all unfortunately. There were major issues with both Apple switching to Metal and AMD technologies changing (or something?). Last I heard, they're stuck and it's still an NVIDIA only party.

[@eyedesyn]

I wouldn't hold my breath for Apple to get their crap together, although maybe in the next Garbage Disposal looking Mac Pro?

[@jonm2459]

thank you for your answer. very good tuto

[@jonm2459]

i want to cry

[@dadafemi1005]

When you discover there's a part 1 for a 39 min video 😲😁😅

[@DistructiveElements]

36:50 ????

[@octanejesus]

it's a joke.

[@eilonhay4812]

no way to do it without octane?

[@eyedesyn]

You can use displacement maps in the C4D Displacement channel but it won't look nearly as good and wont work nearly as fast as Octane.

[@eilonhay4812]

yeah I know :( I have played with it and got the general look after 30min or so but looks ugly af so ill have to figure out a way to get octane

[@eilonhay4812]

OMG 269$ fudge me

[@eyedesyn]

Check out OctaneVR which is the subscription model and you only pay $20/month for the full Octane functionality!

[@eilonhay4812]

ok! thx man

[@Dad32646]

David, this belongs on pornhub!!! Please make more octane tutorials! Would love to see a breakdown of camera settings and motion blur:) Haizzz, i have iMac with amd gpu. Looking at that sexy octane stuff makes me want to swallow the windows hate and switch to pc:( Apple get your shit together!

[@kiranp7047]

who else doesnt have octane render like me :(

[@eyedesyn]

I dont! :)

[@Darksagan]

I am so lost

[@rurouniex6002]

哈哈哈哈哈66666

[@rudwp5009]

Your tutorial is too difficult. I can't get the texture that you prepared in advance at 12:33. You have to tell me where to get it. Without such a link, this is not a tutorial. And your tutorial seems to be too lost.