Everything Wrong With The Dark Knight In 27 Minutes or Less - 10th Anniversary Re-Sin

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[@Jess-Rabbit]

It still pains me that Heath will never know how much everyone loved his Joker. He was the best

[@chadharger9323]

Jack Nicholson, Heath and Caesar Romero.

[@wjbt3]

Not that big of a deal. He's dead, so it's pretty pointless to mope around about it while you are alive.

[@gilbert7508]

@what about the situation The fuck do you mean "even in a videogame"? Dude it's like one of the top 5 best joker depictions ever.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Don't do drugs.

[@rexman971]

@what about the situation As a person who loves film noir, I loved Jack Nicholsons depiction of the Joker.

[@Igorcastrochucre]

The hostage scene of the two boats where the two groups can't justify killing each other, there is something is so... human about it. Criminals that have reached rock bottom and have little to lose yet don't do it, and the citizens who know how unfair it is to pitted against the others, but still refuse to kill them because they know they'll be as bad as them. For a movie all about grittiness and realism, this moment of humanity shines through.

[@evilcartmensolo7198]

I always figured the joker was so messed up that the detonator would blow up the ones that triggered it not the other way around.

[@Igorcastrochucre]

Whatever was supposed to happen when they hit the denotators, it didn't, it just goes to show Joker was wrong about people. Hell, him keeping a detonator as a failsafe shows that even he accounted for this show of empathy getting in the way of his message, making it inherently hypocritical

[@SpartacusQuoVadis]

@@Igorcastrochucre always have a backup plan

[@TheDoc377]

Until we really see moments like this shine in the real world, though, the Joker will be right.

[@joekerr1607]

See I think this was jokers one mistake, if he'd given someone both detonators and told them to choose or he'd kill them then both boats (basically making it a suped up trolly dilemma) I think that person kills the boat full of criminals every time.

[@stephaniehagler8991]

"'Heath Ledger is attracted to a Gyllenhaal' cliche" is the most underrated reference in this entire video

[@tonyacosta4574]

You are gorgeous

[@JkComedy444]

I know I was thinking that also

[@MrJimmyTide]

Same. I wanted to add text to a still of Joker with the knife to Rachel saying "I fucked your brother!" :P

[@slake9727]

​@@MrJimmyTideI'd go with "Ride 'em cowboy!"

[@jamiegreenberg8476]

literally the only good joke dffjksfhsjkhfkdjshfk

[@whitethunder9064]

I love how more personal the sins videos have gotten. Like telling the origin of the "sitting through logos" sin. It adds more humor, more personality, and lets people know you're not supposed to take it so seriously.

[@ladyofshalott]

Agreed! The logo thing makes so much more sense now.

[@SweatySheets]

I'm positive he's said before the whole reason he does it is something like he shouldn't have to sit through their logos if he's paying to see their movies? But then now he's realised he does the exact same thing because how else would you know who made the movie if their isn't an intro with the companies logo

[@Resimaster]

Yeah, although we still don't know who "Chris" is.

[@king__iopa6841]

Not take it seriously in what way tho? Yeah, a big portion of these sins might be nonsensical and have dumb oversights in them, but a lot of them are also correct and make good points, and they are legit logical flaws and overlooked plot holes of the movie that the writers/creators allowed to be (either intentionally or not). Yes, most people are probably watching these sin videos for pure silly entertainment, but it doesn't mean you can watch it only for that. These videos also have some educational value to them.

[@finnfin]

@@king__iopa6841 "These videos also have some educational value to them." Very, very little. 80% of the sins on this channel are questioning insignificant details, continuity errors, pop culture references, personal opinions, and jokes. and the rest 20% can mostly be explained "away" with movie nerd jargon, like: rule of cool, not giving out all the details, having the finished product have better pacing this way, conveying an abstract concept better through picture that way, or simply being mostly unimportant to the plot/character arc/moral of the story, etc. etc. etc. Cinemasins is practically just entertainment. Just food for thought: Do you think that Christopher Nolan would really get something substantial out of this, education wise?

[@BMJgunner]

Trying to find something wrong in this movie is like trying to find ice in a volcano Edit: I love how this thread is either people saying why the film is bad, people saying it's good, or the 3rd which I love, people talking about Ice Volcanos

[@OversoulGaming]

If anyone can do it, it's the writers at CinemaSins

[@a-listercrowley2737]

Don't you ever talk about volcano activities ever ever ever again!

[@gersonribeiro374]

I know 2 things wrong with this movie, it isn't longer and Joker isn't in it more!!!!!!!

[@bad2dabohn1992]

C'mon man everyone knows ice is just a myth

[@kggresham]

Interesting quip.

[@LeonardoKlotz]

"If you're good at something, never do it for free" Words to live by

[@BloodyFlowerFilms]

Abso-fucking-lutely. I also like to live by “I’ll take on any job… for the right price.” - Cad Bane.

[@carlnickson7353]

thats why i became a hooker

[@b1bbscraz3y]

*does not always apply to sex

[@CoralCopperHead]

@@b1bbscraz3y Nah, pretty much always applies to sex. You also need a strong will and good character judgement though, in order to avoid the drug culture that comes with that entertainment industry. Unless you were talking about prostitutes, in which case yeah, I agree, but primarily because it's almost entirely unregulated instead of being a licensed practice like, say, massage therapy.

[@b1bbscraz3y]

@@CoralCopperHead that's the point lol, who said anything about the industry or sex work. you can be good at sex and just a regular person. plenty regular people are. and just have sex with their partner or partners in life, not getting paid for intercourse. you could maybe say they pay for it through relationship benefits but that's more paying for the comfort of the person than the sex itself since regular people who aren't good at sex get those same relationship benefits

[@susheelramadoss]

I loved the "Health Ledger character is attracted to a Gyllenhaal cliche" - Amazing reference and ode to Heath.

[@Dr._Klopek]

The thing I love most about the Joker is how uniquely so many different actors have played him. Caesar Romero, Nicholson, Ledger, Phoenix, and Mark Hamill have all played him incredibly well but completely differently. Meanwhile, Batman, at least since Michael Keaton, has basically been played the same as a rigid stoic figure with cool toys

[@valentinalaguzinskaya8358]

Lego Batman?)))

[@gracecorrigan3801]

Idk if leaving out Leto was intentional or not but either way, good 😂

[@SamareDoTelke]

phoenix was the first one i've seen and that movie hit me so hard that i got him tattood

[@tomrath4801]

Fun detail: at 3:52 half of the books/documents on the shelf behind Gordon are perfectly neat and organized and half are messy and strewn about- nice visual foreshadowing for Two Face

[@whereami2477]

Jesus, I'm still learning new shit about this movie lol

[@zeobide]

I've missed that too many times for me to believe that it was intentional lol. 😀

[@iamanevutable981]

This was from that "Did you know that in The Dark Knight" guy.

[@eternyti]

coincidences =/= foreshadowing

[@FilmJenkins]

@@eternyti Maybe it's subconscious.

[@dday906]

I'm gonna put in my 2 cents here and point out that Aaron Eckhart definitely deserved a sin off for his underrated performance as Harvey Dent/Two-Face.

[@kyuubinaruto17]

No offense to Eckhart, as it has nothing to do with his acting, but I feel he was more interesting as Harvey Dent before he went completely loony. Taking a suspect hostage, making them think they might die off a coin toss. Really sketchy stuff. Once he became Two-Face he became pretty one-note. He shows up to people who wronged him, flips a coin, and kills. It's just not that interesting compared to everything the Joker is up to, like blowing up the hospital, doing the hostage swap, and the ferry test.

[@colossusslayer1234]

100%. Man gets overlooked hard because of Heath, plus all the other major stars in this film, but he had a LOT of screentime and he nailed this role the whole way.

[@tinyky2598]

@@kyuubinaruto17 I think the issue is we didn't see ENOUGH of him as two face.

[@kyuubinaruto17]

@@tinyky2598 I mean if they gave him more to do than just vengeance killing then sure. As I said the issue isn't with Aaron acting but the script that made him one dimensional. He kinda just felt THERE for the sake of breaking up the pace for the joker and because any movie with dent is eventually gonna have a two face.

[@tinyky2598]

@@kyuubinaruto17 I also feel like they didn't really know what to do with him in the end, his pretty quick death made me scratch my head saying "is that it?"

[@JeppePOOL]

Literally laughed out loud at 3:40, the "Are you high?" question was so genuine lmao

[@LadyOnikara]

"Do I really look like a guy with a plan?" No, he really doesn't. That's why I love this character in all the movies, comics, shows and games. No matter how bizarre the things he does are, sometimes you can see that it actually was planned out. No one suspects it either.

[@n-dl6ct]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one. It always makes me wonder how people believe a word he says to anybody. Especially the "agent of chaos" seems so off, I wonder how anybody believes it judging Jokes actions even if he would otherwise tell the truth. And we know really well that he lies even to people he's going to kill, like we saw with the scars stories. He always lies and misguides and always has a plan.

[@NukesandCheeseCurds]

I'm amazed that not one sin was removed for the score! Hans Zimmer turned an excellent movie into a masterpiece!

[@lucashubert4769]

@TwinTurbo Ray His interns did a really good job.

[@jp3813]

Did you just forget about James Newton Howard?

[@justicejakober5506]

Best movie composer

[@jlong908]

Elfmans batman score >>>

[@Roysin]

@@jp3813 everyone's focus is on the Batman and Joker themes. Howard only did the Two Face themes, which people don't tend to acknowledge as much.

[@DoomRulz]

All these years later, and I still miss Heath dearly. Taken from us too soon ❤

[@robjef622]

Kevin Conroy just died yesterday. Batman and Joker are together in Heaven now.

[@batbrick3949]

@@robjef622 awwww ….

[@Strugger]

@what about the situation That's not very nice.

[@RC83]

He wasn't really Taken though. He left voluntarily 🤷🏼‍♂️😅

[@NoNonsenseSpider]

@@robjef622 Well, kinda yeah but not Conroy's Joker

[@nathanevans4157]

I have fond memories of watching this movie with my dad growing up, it'll always hold a special place in my heart. Rest in peace Heath Ledger, it was a fantastic performance all the way through and I'll always wonder about what could have been.

[@Kritacul]

Out of all the masterpieces in the last 20 years. I would say this movie has the least amount of logical sins in it. And wow, how it still holds to today.

[@InsanityPlea100]

Batman's voice every time he speaks. Ding ding ding ding

[@ASK-iz1pm]

@@InsanityPlea100 Let's hear you do a better job

[@InsanityPlea100]

@@ASK-iz1pm ok. 'IIIII'MMMM BAATTMMMAANNNNN, WHHEEREEE IISSS HHHEEEE???!!!' How'ed I do?

[@b1bbscraz3y]

the batmobile crashing through the garage on x floor above the first or second and the witness getting a gun in court should be worth 50 sins

[@KAW101]

The acting of Christian Bale (in both roles, especially Bats) deserves a 101 mediocre sins.

[@danielmflores]

I am so glad he addressed how stupid that fingerprint on a bullet pulled from a 3D rendering of a hole in a brick

[@rickstaism]

They should have just pulled up the casing from the floor unless the brass party went in after the shooting and cleaned up for them. Sorry I haven't seen the movie in a while so don't remember where the bullet was fired from (probably a gun).

[@SweatySheets]

Why is that even a problem in something such as the DC Universe? It's clearly possible since the movie said it was possible.

[@CocktailsConsoles]

True, even if he unshelled the round, he'd still have to have some tiny thumbs to make that work

[@versecontro4898]

@@rickstaism not sure if you do or don’t know how guns work but the brass is ejected out of the top of the gun (unless it’s a revolver in which it stays chambered which is possible). So for them to recreate a full bullet is nonsense unless they were able to retrieve the shell In which case they wouldn’t need to reconstruct any part of the bullet.

[@rickstaism]

@@versecontro4898 *gasp* Actually more likely the brass is ejected out of the side or the bottom of the weapon (the latter typically reserved for larger automatic weapons mounted on tripods) to lessen the incidence of jamming. My 'brass party' comment was intended to highlight the name attributed to the cleanup crew on a firing range - surely gangsters employ brass parties so they don't leave behind evidence that can be traced back to them ;-)

[@BatmanHQYT]

"Heath Ledger character is attracted to a Gyllenhaal cliche" hahaha, clever.

[@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid]

I don't get that reference. Help?

[@zeobide]

The respect for Heath might make this my favorite sins video of all time.

[@ReverendLuc]

Rest In Peace Kevin Conroy the TRUE Batman

[@AmberAmber]

Or Michael Keaton?? Yeah?

[@theworldislava192]

He will never be replaced

[@ap3x581]

@@AmberAmber he's good, but there can only be one. RIP Kevin Conroy

[@jaded9234]

The TRUE voice of the Batman/Bruce Wayne. The DCAU's consistent standard of excellence was built on Batman:TAS and set the bar so high that everything else seems like a disorganized reenactment by comparison. Idk why either, Conroy didn't alter his voice too drastically between the two(Batman and Bruce). Just enough to where you knew they were in completely different headspaces. Bruce's voice was more relaxed, almost leisurely, with an ever-present "open" quality. Whereas Batman's voice was much more concise, consistently deeper(but not drastically so). The kicker is that you could tell they were two sides of the same voice, to match the personalities in the same head. To me, that would seem easier and MUCH more effective.

[@osmanyousif7849]

How does an Animated show still whole up more than the DC movies?

[@ccsballazdre]

It was impressive to see Cinema Sins obliterate a movie in 4 minutes or less. Now it's even more impressive to see it done for 29 minutes... or less.

[@AL-xq6jt]

Yeah but i dont think any movie has been taken that many sins off

[@123RADIOactive]

Problem with this is that many of the things Jeremy say isn’t even sins or stuffs that is wrong with the movie. 🤷‍♂️

[@szekesfehervar2230]

​@@123RADIOactive you can only speak for yourself

[@arjunholmie]

@@123RADIOactive This is great actually, because we get to now watch th3birdman call him out on this and point out how unfunny his cash grab non-sins are

[@johnnystormy6078]

@@arjunholmie the birdman videos suck

[@JonSanders]

15:37 “Is he trying to LEAD the SWAT van with a rocket that speed?” 😂😂😂

[@dlweiss]

At 21:54 you missed a quick shot of Engel onboard the same bus that the Joker hops into as the hospital blows up. During the explosion there's a split-second shot of people on the bus reacting to the boom, and Engel is among them. So we can assume that Joker kidnapped Engel directly off that bus after it drove away.

[@po7ta]

Yup, was looking for this comment

[@AadamSaleem390]

All things considered, Heath Ledger was an awesome Joker

[@example2844]

6:55 WHAT????? You skip that??? Seriously????? That's one of the best scenes in the movie!!!

[@DareToBeDeviant]

The courtroom gun was composed of carbon fiber and likely had springs made of non-ferrous metals (thus very weak) which is why it made it through any metal detectors (which any government building has) and malfunctioned when the creep tried to shoot Dent. My guess is the writer(s) and/or armorer for the movie took that small detail from _Die Hard 2_ and went with it from there... only in that movie the G-l-o-c-k "7" was described being made of porcelain and cost a fortune. Neither of the aforementioned pistols exist in real life. Only in Hollywood.

[@turbo8628]

I looked into it an carbon fiber would not fool a (modern) metal detector. Apprarently, stainless steel is tricky to spot because it has low electrical conductivity.

[@DareToBeDeviant]

@@turbo8628 I understand detectors have 'levels', or tolerance which need to be set. Either Gotham is far behind on tech or set the bar very low... which would be irresponsible considering all of the gang activity. Makes me wonder though in real life what kind of weapons of various metals (e.g, copper or aluminum) could be passed undetected. Wands used by guards and TSA have a much higher detection compared to the ones we step through. You'd think it'd be the other way around.

[@turbo8628]

@@DareToBeDeviant i did think it was the other way around! I assume plastics and ceramics would be the way to go but i could be wrong. I figures all metals were detectable, so i learned something new today

[@davidcombs3617]

Or the plastic gun used by John Malkovich's "Booth" character gun he used to shoot at the president in "In The Line of Fire."

[@thegamingpigeon3216]

25:25 Interesting thing about Dark Knight Rises: while it's never mentioned in the movie, in the novelization they talk about how the Dent Act "made it all but impossible for the city’s criminals to cop an insanity plea", which resulted in all the criminals in Arkham being moved to Blackgate Prison... all except one. You can probably guess who that one was.

[@amityislandchum]

Ew. The Nolan Batverse really is a horrific police state.

[@Dan-jp8jr]

Who

[@Jajais4u]

That's WILD!

[@TeatroGrotesco]

Reeeeeaaaaaddddding

[@keigoftw]

Actually, people (in universe) *don't* know he can't shoot lasers out of his eyes. The stories are so embellished and Batman is so naturally reclusive, that even when he's on the Justice League people (some of them at least) tend to assume he has powers. Heck, it's common in Batman retellings for his early years to include an urban legend that while trying to describe Batman, actually perfectly described Man-Bat (usually long before Man-Bat even appears). Another one is vampire. Most of it's bat themed.

[@LucianDevine]

Like William Wallace being 7 feet tall, kills men by the hundreds, and would consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his ass?

[@Murph_gaming]

They kinda played around with that a bit in Batman Begins.

[@jardex2275]

It was only when everyone thought that Bruce was dead and Dick Grayson briefly assumed his identity that the mythos was broken. Dick allowed himself to be caught on a security camera to let everyone know that Batman was still alive.

[@genkureshima9834]

By retellings, you mean outside of comics? 'Cause I haven't found much on Man-Bat aside from certain volumes of comics and the random jumpscares in Arkham Knight.

[@keigoftw]

@@genkureshima9834 No, I mean regardless of where its retold or if Man-bat is a thing: early descriptions of Batman are often that of a Bat monster rather than a man in a bat-themed cape & cowl. As for finding Man-bat, try the animated stuff, he's much easier to animate than to impose on a irl environment with CG. He was in *the* Animated Series & * capital The Batman, among others.

[@RyanStonedonCanadianGaming]

"We don't have time for paper ballots." ' 'Hahahahaha she's right. ' ' 🤣😂 23:38

[@CorthosPryme911]

I was told watching CinemaSins is basically like going to the movies with me lol that's how a friend introduced me to this channel years ago. This channel is great.. I love it. R.I.P Heath the greatest Joker of them all

[@SweatySheets]

Bruh. If you act like Jeremy you must be dense asf.

[@Gakuto86]

"Do you wanna know why I use a knife?" "NO." [duct tapes Joker's mouth shut. The End] I laughed WAY harder than I should have at this. Also, no shout out to the absolutely terrifying Joker video (with the imposter Batman) that the local news played?? I will NEVER forget how silent and unsettled the theater audience I was a part of was when this scene came on.

[@kyuubinaruto17]

Look at me... LOOK! AT! ME!

[@venturatheace1]

I hated when The Batman tried copying it with Riddler. It just didn’t hit the same

[@Destiny-tt3fg]

1,000,000 sins for skiping the how i got these scars monologue

[@dixiecronin7791]

But it's impossible to sin something that epic!

[@theimortal1974]

also sins for not including the scene where not all bombs at the hospital going off unscripted and heath amazingly going with it and killing that part (choice of words deliberate)

[@besonyung]

7:38 hell yeah, my beautiful home got a sin off!!

[@nomdeplume7537]

As a Trauma RN for 30 yrs ... and judging by the impact, or lack there of. The goon who got "hit" by the bus, would've probably survived that. The largest object he got hit by was a table that was being pushed back by other debris, and the bus. All of that would have absorbed a lot of the kinetic energy directing it around him. We had a motorcyclist go up against an 18 Wheeler. They brought in the motorcyclist awake and alert, but in a shit ton of pain. Then about a half hour later they brought in his left boot. Did I mention his lower left leg was still in the boot? What I'm trying to say is he survived ... well the majority of him. Not that leg obviously

[@karstenbrown]

12:47 How is it that nobody anywhere has ever noticed that the voice of the radio is that of "Seinfeld" & "Third Rock From The Sun" actor Wayne Knight?!? It's a voiceover cameo pun!

[@michaelmcdiarmid3877]

There is just absolutely no way you said "skip" over "you wanna know how I got these scars?"

[@alonelypotato2788]

ding!

[@user-qn1zp5bi2h]

Because it's dated and corny.

[@Flash4ML]

@@user-qn1zp5bi2h Maybe now, fuckin 15 YEARS after the movie lol

[@user-qn1zp5bi2h]

@@Flash4ML Yeah, meaning the movie doesn't hold up.

[@Flash4ML]

@@user-qn1zp5bi2h Meaning that the scene is so exceptionally iconic, ingrained into popular culture through the influence of memes and the internet in general, that kids 15 years afterwards think it's cool to claim it's a "dated and corny" scene. Lol how exactly does it fit those parameters, in your opinion?

[@Groteskfull]

24:37 "I think we removed a sin for..." Nope, this scene wasn't even in the previous video about this movie

[@notoriousmigz2427]

Jeremy this needs another re sin, with Gordon last line calling the bat "Dark Knight" leading yiu to say "Roll Credits", then with them actually rolling credits, all the sins get removed.

[@theriddick2735]

No sin off for Sir Michael Caine?! The depth and humanity he brings to Alfred is something we've never seen before with the character. The scenes with him and Christian Bale are my favourite moments in the whole trilogy. The humour and friendship is superbly written and acted to perfection.

[@leonpaelinck]

he already did in Batman Begins

[@hawkweedofficial2925]

I found both Bale and Caine to be ONE-DIMENSIONAL cardboard cutouts in all three films. UNBEARABLE. Ditto Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman's LAME appearances.

[@ARG0T]

@@hawkweedofficial2925 Shittiest takes I've ever seen

[@randomweeb5454]

This was another top tier movie

[@chasehedges6775]

It’s still a masterpiece of cinema.

[@josemanuelaponte8900]

@@chasehedges6775 most definitely

[@themadmasterofplatinumkeep3331]

I’m glad everyone can agree on this. This film is a marvel!

[@ftd888]

So … the Joker was lying when he said that he was like a dog chasing cars (that he didn’t have a plan). It’s not a mistake in the movie’s plot. He robs, murders, and maims people … so, I’m pretty confident that he was manipulating Harvey by lying about not having a plan. We’ve also seen him lie about his scars, and he lied to the man with the cell phone under his skin. Also, HOW DID YOU NOT SIN BATMAN’S VOICE?!?

[@anitahausnerova2139]

Exactly. He needed Harvey to become insane murderer to prove his point that anyone can be corrupted, that's the whole reason he was even there. What makes anyone think that what he said to Harvey in that scene wasnt tailored to push Harvey over the edge. Especially since he's lied about himself multiple times and we know he's good at predicting people's reactions. Like why wouldn't he lie to manipulate him.

[@CmotDribbler]

15:42 because he was at home! Washing his tights!

[@Jatt2613]

29:13 Such a missed opportunity that for the last outtake when Gary Oldman is saying to get every officer you didn't cut in him screaming "SEND EVERYONE!"

[@chefbreccia2642]

EVERYYYYONE!

[@thedarkknight9153]

Agreed. Several missed opportunities in the outtakes.

[@CptWillowRose]

Yes. And not using "They used to call me Crazy Joe... Now they call me Batman"

[@ghariiscool]

"I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you Stranger" One of the coldest villain lines ever

[@jonkyle1104]

Anyone else watch the Dark Knight Rises Resin already!!! The accidental upload was amazing to watch and get Two videos on the same day

[@Saphykitten]

I am loving that you are redoing some of your older videos for these movies. Please keep doing these

[@Zeddyboi86]

I am VERY happy they removed a sin for the big guy throwing away the detonator on the boat. Fantastic subversion, and just a great moment. :)

[@jardex2275]

Yep. The prisoners knew they deserved to die, and that the guards would want to save their own skins.

[@NativeSon2012]

29:13 Missed a chance to use "EVERYONE!" when Gordon is telling them to call in every officer.

[@GamesbiteRtDL]

23:15 Fun Fact: Heath Ledger used this note to not memorize his lines

[@AsbestosMuffins]

"No no I take care of the bus driver." "Bus driver, what bus driv-" one of the best bits ever put to film

[@DreddPirateRoberts]

16:45 - How do you not take a sin off for Heath Ledger's impromptu clapping?

[@LeonardoKlotz]

PRACTICAL EFFECTS BEFORE CGI That's my motto

[@ruslanrautiola7791]

Agreed on the sin of Batman taking the blame for Dent’s murder. Never understand why he needed to do that

[@timothyfloogle]

Because he is the d a r k knight

[@louiscirigliano5896]

As a former projectionist at Cinemark back in the day, hearing you say "interlocking two prints through seven projectors" it brings me back. Thank you for that, I really miss those days.

[@henrymcdonald9679]

17:00 he’s just ahead of the curve

[@timb1319]

I am here for sin removals for Heath Ledger's performance

[@AlexSeverinski]

6:55 Did you just say SKIP to one of the movie's signature scenes? 22:01 Um...no. The last we saw Engel, he was being dragged on-board the bus that Joker hid on.

[@stiimuli]

3:26 Dent specifically said in the courtroom scene the gun was made of carbon fiber. Metal detectors wouldn't have caught it. 21:54 no, we last saw Engel being grabbed and pulled onto a bus right after Joker walks out of the hospital. It looks like it could be the same bus Joker gets on.

[@turbo8628]

Metal detectors would pick up carbon fiber. Strangely, having just done a bit of research, metal detectors struggle to spot stainless steel (because it has low electrical conductivity).

[@trevorjoneill707]

@@turbo8628 really?

[@turbo8628]

@@trevorjoneill707 yeah, according to my research on google. The stainless steel ome i have no explanation for because electricity isn't my thing (i teach mechanical).

[@trevorjoneill707]

fair enough. But it would have made airports even less protected than one would have thought

[@remycote7303]

This movie is the reason why I found CinemaSins. As much as I like it, there’s so much plot holes in this movie and I wanted to see if I was the only one noticing them!

[@MichaelDadourian]

The Dark Knight is my favorite live action Batman film, of all time…but no film is safe, from sinning, sadly.

[@LucianDevine]

That's what makes us true fans. We can accept the flaws in our favorites as well as the ones we hate.

[@jellis9618]

I worked in the booth at a movie theater when this came out as well. All of these were things I thought during my many, many viewings of this masterpiece. 👏 * jokerface * 👏

[@BooN877]

I'm still convinced that Mr Reese is the Riddler of the Christopher Nolan films. He figured out Batman's identify, yeah he was just doing his job but still and he tries to leverage that for money. They call him Mister Reese! Mysteries! Edward Nigma, Enigma.

[@leonpaelinck]

Just like Blake and Kyle are never referred as Robin and Catwoman

[@jardex2275]

@@leonpaelinck Yep, because only crazy people use costumes and codenames in the Nolanverse.

[@BooN877]

@@leonpaelinck Also how Reese collaborated with Joker just to have Joker turn on him 😆 very Riddler

[@toby1439]

Even when there are 134 movie sins, this still remains a great movie we can all remember.

[@mwurzer]

26:16. Fun fact about this: When the Blu Ray was first released they did a live texting commentary with Christopher Nolan where people could ask questions to him while watching the movie at a specific time and date. Whether that was actually him, I'll choose it was. Anyway, when this scene came up someone asked him "could he explain the five people Gordon was talking about." to which Nolan replied: "Not at this time." They left it at that but since they didn't address it in Rises, it was most likely an error or never released scene.

[@dc_al_coda]

If my guess is correct, I think the five are the cop Joker shot at the hospital, Wuertz, Maroni, Maroni's driver and Dent himself.

[@codylakin288]

I always assumed he was referring to Joker’s victims, when he said he’d kill people every day until Batman turned himself in

[@TMPS93]

As a former newspaper copy editor, it is VERY easy for someone to slip in an obituary undetected. They're sent to us from funeral homes and are printed as is unless there's a MAJOR typo. And even then we end up calling the funeral home first.

[@chrisbeaty309]

I've been working in the printing industry for 20 years now and I agree

[@kwon7901]

12:03 Wow. CinemaSins is a gun guy, I'm a gun guy and I didn't even think about that.

[@kjmwale8328]

26:15 I think Gordon is counting Two-Face as well. Wuertz (cop), 2 goons, Maroni, and Dent (who is a DA working for the city which can sometimes be considered a cop) makes 5 dead, 2 cops.

[@jasperhayes-klein2929]

I *love* this channel [narration, content, wit, selection, etc.], and watching you Sin a movie that you've a demonstrable affection for, with *transparent* "Sins," and breathtakingly, new humorous insights, and the kindness to give us a "10th Anniversary Re-Sin?" Well ... that's worth a Sin!

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

R.I.P. Kevin Conroy. 🦇

[@mzoldskool77]

Best animated Batman show ever. EVER! 😢😢

[@dc_al_coda]

I still stand by that the ferry sequence is my all time favorite movie scene for two reasons. One, it shows a conflict of morality and humanity for both the civilians and the criminals in a brilliant demonstration of the Joker's belief about society and, ultimately, the rejection of it. Two, what if the Joker actually did give them the detonators to their own boats? It's not only something I would buy this movie's Joker doing to prove a point, but it's something I would buy the Joker from the comics doing just for a laugh.

[@ColeStar]

“Keeping cards close to your chest” is the original, well-known phrase. I’d never even heard of people saying vest before.

[@InternetSado]

I dont see Joker being lucky or having major coincidence, but that he has contingency after contingency in place and this just so happens to be the way it plays out

[@frenchbaguetteoui]

Sinning Joker's scar monologue is blasphemy.

[@nolo_the2nd]

Honestly I boo'd him for skipping it

[@fanitram]

20:26 he closed his eye 🤣🤣

[@MLNYD]

I was so ready for the “roll credits” after Gary Oldman says “a Dark Knight” and then they actually roll credits leading to sins being removed.

[@Mikepun51]

16:12 Cool stunt, but I'm sinning the fact that they didn't even try to hide the smoke that flipped the truck.

[@Whiteythereaper]

In regards to Gordon's family not being clued in on the plan, I feel like it's a point to try and completely minimalise any risk of a leak, and any chance that if Joker has someone watching his family, they will see believable behaviour from them.

[@DracoPadilla]

10:35 That was built before he became Batman. It's under Wayne Tower. It says in the first movie that it was R&D for Wayne Enterprises.

[@ctaco5112]

Sin 127: The reason Harvey blames Gordon is because he told him over and over about the corrupt cops in his unit but each time Gordon dismissed it. Therefore from Harvey’s perspective had Gordon listen to him in the first place Rachel’s death could have been avoided.

[@lucahermann3040]

21:08 Dent was just concerned about getting Cov*d because Joker removed his mask so close to him.

[@StephenLeGresley]

Seriously Jeremy, that "who's wife do you have to fuck" line got me. It works on so many levels espically the way you cut it with the scene after. Chef's Kiss man.

[@jesuscuzz7299]

Heath ledger had that raw talent that would've made him the best actor in the world but in the end his greatest talent got the worst of him. R.I.P to the aussie legend

[@naomidebello8259]

Next video: Everything Wrong With Zoolander.

[@YedolfWesler]

That movie is garbage

[@Gaijin06]

Still my favorite batman, Heath Ledger make this so freaking awesome. Miss him cause continuity could have being as great as this one.

[@85flip]

This was a masterclass in superhero films

[@goranmilic442]

Except 2 major plotholes. One, Batman doesn't need to sacrifice himself at the end, since there is no evidence Dent killed anyone. Second, the scene with the boats doesn't make sense. People on boats don't know that Batman (or anyone) is coming to their rescue. Therefore, logical and moral thing to do is to destroy other ship. If they destroy other ship, their own ship and everyone on it is saved. If they don't destroy other ship, then Joker will destroy both ships. In Joker's game, there is no way you can save other ship. Either you destroy it or Joker will destroy it. So why not destroy other ship? 500 dead people is better than 1000 dead people. Their decision to not destroy other ship doesn't save anyone (since they don't know Batman is coming).

[@dragonsailorzero179]

@@goranmilic442 You missed the point of the boat scene. It's not just about getting saved or not, it's about seeing the good in other people, in humanity. It's a reminder that not everything is straight logic, black and white, that people aren't just thinking about themselves. Some do, but we can band together and not fall for that trap, just like the people on the boats beat Joker's game by refusing to play. The boats scene is about people making the choice to say, 'it doesn't matter what could happen to me, I'm not going to tear down someone else, murder someone else, just to save myself.' No, they didn't know anyone was coming to save them or what would happen, but they choose to have faith and to forgo violence despite that.

[@goranmilic442]

@@dragonsailorzero179 That doesn't make sense. "Good in people" is about "saving others". What's the point of "being good", if you don't actually help anyone? I'm sure you agree about that. And it's not about saving yourself. It's not about pure logic. It's about saving others. Did you read my comment properly? There is no way to save other ship. There just isn't. Either you destroy it or Joker does. You agree? So, if you destroy other ship, which is doomed anyway, you save not just yourself, but anyone on your ship. By destroying other ship, you save 500 lives. By not destroying other ship, you don't save nobody. Why would you let 500 people die? Why would you choose destruction of both ships? Why?

[@dragonsailorzero179]

@@goranmilic442 I think you are missing, or negating the choice that was made. Both groups of people made a choice to save someone but choose to save someone else (the other boat). I say you are missing the point about what the scene says about humanity because both parties were selfless and chose not to blow up the other just to save themselves. They chose for the other to live. And that completely baffled the Joker. He thought he knew humanity, or at least Gotham. He thought for sure that people would throw anyone under the bus when it came time to save themselves. But both parties chose grace. They chose to trust the other; they saw the value of the lives on the other boat. By taking the risk not to denotate the other, they chose to save the other boat. It's easy to say that the prisoner boat should obviously be blown up at the expense of the other, but the question really is more complex and morally gray, even without bring in real world realities. (I do not recall if it's said in the movie, but in real life, not everyone on that prisoner boat would be convicted. Some might be innocent, either wrongly convicted or just still awaiting trail; some might be there because they can't post bail, etc.) There are also boat crew and prisoner guards on the boat. You could argue the guards are more valuable to society, as they do dangerous, important work. Now, maybe for you, it's just a numbers game, but me, again, I think it's more complex. Who is really to say that one life is worth more that another's? That one person's family member is worth saving over someone else's? And who knows what the future holds? How do you know that one of the people on either boat don't have some great future destiny/importance that you are cutting short? Even a convicted prisoner might turn their life around and end up doing good work, helping more people. Finally, if people on the boats think the way you do, that they might as well blow up the other so that some of them can live, then neither party ends up standing a chance, and they end up killing each other. Remember they can't communicate with each other. They don't know what the other boat will do and yes, they are taking a risk that they could all die, but by doing nothing, they are gambling that they could all survive. No, they don't know when or even if anyone is coming to save them, but they are taking the gamble. And maybe for some, it's not about saving the most amount of lives, what you call being good. For them, being good could mean doing the least amount of active harm and so for them it's better to nothing than to actively take a role in killing someone else, no matter what the reason. (Because again, who is to say one person's life is worth more than another's?). So I hope you understand now that the issue is a lot more complex than you make it; otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. I see where you are coming from, but for me, I would make that choice to do nothing. You don't know what you don't know. No, they don't know someone is coming to save them, but they don't know someone is not. They don't know how sincere the Joker is, if both boats won't get blown up anyway. They just knew that they weren't okay with risking harm to the other boat. I wouldn't be either.

[@goranmilic442]

@@dragonsailorzero179 I never said people on one ship deserve to live more than others. All I said was very obvious truth - it's better than one ship is destroyed than two ships are destroyed. Ultimately, someone on ship will have to save 500 lives. I read your arguments carefully. Most of your arguments are valid when you have an hour to go (someone can rescue both ships, we are letting other ship to live). When you have one minute to go, your aren't valid no more. Chance of being rescued is now extremly low. If both ships decide not to detonate, one minute to go, like in the scene, then both ships are destroyed unnecesarilly. Their sacrifice is unnecesary, because what's the point of sacrifice, if you don't save anyone that way.

[@kstutz81]

I’m embarrassed at how long it took me to get this one @9:31 Well played sir 👏

[@silverslinger2165]

26:08 THANK YOU!!! I’ve done the math in my head more times than necessary and it never adds up!!!

[@fintanbochra]

Another certified Red Hood classic

[@Zombiesnyder13]

ENDGAME might be the highest grossing superhero of all time But TDK is the ULTIMATE SUPERHERO MOVIE

[@seanmccreery8463]

No 1 can take the piss out off a movie like this man. Fuckin funny a hell. Legend

[@LungSolo]

The gun in the court room is made of carbon fiber. Dent references it in the courtroom. That is how it got past the metal detector. Love the videos man Keep it up.

[@chefbreccia2642]

17:51 HAHAHAHAHAHA I know a lot of people point out how Joker's plan is impossible, but this is a new one. All Holtz had to do was gag the dangerous, charismatic criminal, and the movie's third act goes in a completely different direction.

[@dankdanny9883]

“We burned down the forest” is literally a metaphor for what joker is trying to do or is doing to Gotham in the movie. Stopping crime by purging the city of its criminals in his own way .

[@LucianDevine]

He doesn't want to stop crime though. He just thinks Gotham deserves a better class of criminal, and he's going to give it to them.

[@dankdanny9883]

@@LucianDevine really getting rid of CORRUPT COPS and OFFICIALS killing them and using them in his plans even rigging a boat with CONVICTS.Killing VIGILANTE single handedly killing most of the LEADERS of the most powerful MAFIA in Gotham . Not to mention he also bankrupts them by BURNING their MONEY . Also corrupting the face of Gotham : HARVEY DENT and his death results in the “HARVEY ACT” that prevents rich criminals from having a private jury and getting judged as guilty almost immediately for their crimes getting rid of CORRUPTION in COURTS and therefore making Gotham a safer place . And he is doing it because he thinks “ Gotham deserves a better type of criminal” yeah no he says a lot of things like “do I really look like a guy with a plan” and in the last fight he literally has a NOTEBOOK with his PLANS lol . And also holds the HAMMER to the gun when Harvey has it in his hands in case it lands on heads he still lives . The only TRUE thing joker says in the movie is his last line “you really think I’d risk losing the fight for gothams soul in fist fight with you” ; it’s literally his whole goal he literally plans for Harvey to go insane and all it took was winning a COIN flip . He saved Gotham not to mention he gets rid of the BIGGEST VIGILANTE (BATMAN) by making him look like a killer. He literally saved Gotham single-handedly and all it took was killing CRIMINALS and some innocent people. AND HE PURGES GOTHAM from the inside courts using cheap things like Gas and a couple of bullets. THEREFORE BURNING THE FOREST. Rewatch the movie sir. I

[@LucianDevine]

@@dankdanny9883 Except that if he drives Harvey insane, he would discredit him, leading to a record-setting number of appeals, putting all those criminals back on the street and killing The Dent Act before it's even been born. He didn't get rid of corrupt cops and officials. He used them for his own means, means that included kidnapping the noncorrupt DA and the noncorrupt ADA, leading to their deaths, and killing a noncorrupt judge and noncorrupt police commissioner. He used a corrupt cop to kidnap Gordon's family and another to try and kill Mr. Reese. He didn't rig the boats to kill the criminals. He rigged the boats in the hopes that he could compel good and decent citizens to commit murder or risk death because they didn't. He didn't bankrupt the mob, because he only burned his half of the money. He absorbed a lot of the criminals that he didn't kill, like when he told the Russian to tell his men that they were Joker's men now. The guy refused and naturally died. Joker didn't save Gotham. Batman saved Gotham by stopping Joker and copping to Dent's crimes, enabling The Dent Act to go off without a hitch. Maybe you should rewatch the movie.

[@dc_al_coda]

I think it's more a warning for Bruce about what extremes it's going to take to stop the Joker.

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

Which is also what the League of Assassins is trying to do to get rid of Gotham's criminals. Why did I never notice till now that every movie in the Dark Knight trilogy is about essentially the same thing? Big bad guy comes to Gotham to burn it to the ground and get rid of all the unsavoury types so it can start anew. Well played, Nolan.

[@andresggcf]

I died with the Ledger - Gyllenhaal joke omg I can'tttt 🤣🤣🤣

[@roguishpaladin]

I'm really enjoying the 10th anniversary re-sins. I have a request, though - for one of these, could you reach out to the director of the movie and have them either join in or refute some of the sins? It'd obviously have to be a director with a sense of humor and a movie that's beloved - maybe Iron Man? Jon Favreau seems down-to-earth enough and possessing of enough of a sense of humor about the entire deal.

[@SweatySheets]

Lol, why would a director hop in on this? Most of his sins are just saying what's happening on the screen and he leaves about certain scenes to make some sins work. All that on the heels of something wrong with the film. How is it that because Jeremy and his team of writers don't understand whats going on is something wrong with the film? That's just a giant middle finger to the director

[@jardex2275]

That'd actually be interesting. Like Everything Wrong: Commentary Tracks.

[@tjmcdonough2615]

Ledger as The Joker is one of my top 2 best performances I've ever seen in a movie. Number 1 is Daniel Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood.

[@carlwilkerson9722]

I once told someone that DDL should have won Two Oscars for "There Will Be Blood."

[@tjmcdonough2615]

Did I also mention that the cinematography is absolutely amazing? Totally deserved that Oscar for Cinematography.

[@NobleVI_343]

I drink your milkshake SLUUUURRRRPPPP

[@xDoomedEar]

Now we know the origin of the logos sin, and it makes a lot of sense because that part of being a projectionist is something I never thought of and it would suck to have to do that over and over.

[@upsincefour]

doesn't Dent make a reference to the fact that the gun smuggled into the courtroom is not metal, and that's part of why it might have jammed?

[@erueka6]

And I call bullshit people need to stop being retarded on how 3d printed guns work you still need a steel barrel, breech, pin and springs. And its even more triple bullshit cause that's a Glock or something similar and nothing in that design allows non metal parts to function without massive changes to a brick of unrecognizable plastic.

[@lapetitecuillereetlepaindo3005]

Yes

[@echelon2k8]

10:03 Joker thought Batman was Dent at this point so there was no need for him to continue searching the building for Dent after he saw Batman leave it.

[@jedsithor]

Actually, during the hospital evacuation you can see the reporter guy being pulled into one of the buses controlled by Joker.