Everything Wrong With Joker In Totally Not Controversial Minutes

Joker. This movie made over a billion dollars. This movie is a certified box office bonanza. The critics didn't seem to dig it, but it's got pretty decent fan scores on some websites. The real question is... does it have sins? And you bet your ass it does. It really does.
Up next: Modern classic crime sins and modern classic thriller sins.
Remember, no movie is without sin! Which movie's sins should we expose next?!
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[@JeffersonEllingerPrime]

Heartbeat monitors actually do go silent when heartbeats stop. Flatlining was invented by TV and movies. This is actually the first time I've seen it done right.

[@kingamer123]

THANK YOU

[@iabeino8373]

cool

[@BL-xz3ym]

This sounded untrue to me, the line being flat is the myth, and the noise itself is not the stereotypical persistent beep, but they do not just go silent when no heartbeat is detected. What would the point be of a monitor that doesn’t let you know when what you’re monitoring for occurs? They don’t hook up monitors to somebody expected to die, either.

[@interlace84]

@@BL-xz3ym I thought todays monitors are connected and send a silent signal to emergency staff :/ there's not always someone around to hear a beep either

[@monkisolive564]

Shows how much time he spends researching versus writing cringy af jokes

[@img_0018]

“the shots in this movie are amazing! the acting is incredible” *gives the movie a sin*

[@Rougarou99]

"Bruce Wayne has too great of a presence in this film" *gives the movie a sin* "Bruce Who? He doesn't specify his last name" *gives the movie a sin*

[@ommzi6428]

@DabonJannies Yea. I dunno if this is what you mean by that comment, but I think he went a bit too far with this video.

[@DraconisMarchVII]

Admitting the movie is good in any way is wrongthink. Progressives told him he was supposed to hate it.

[@ffgibson5859]

@@DraconisMarchVII nailed it. you can tell that he really wants to like the movie, but its almost as if he knows he's not ALLOWED to like it.

[@ffgibson5859]

cat snake you’re only allowed to discuss something if it’s for a positive reason and only if you don’t watch the whole thing?

[@savitar225]

Poor Gary, he got so much shit during his job and was always the nicest person, and he had to witness a murder. We need more love for poor Gary

[@AnuAnoop07]

At least he didn't die .. Be happy for that .

[@maskedgaming2798]

Hahaha...

[@GameOver-nm2us]

Who tf is Gary

[@hfromstatefarm]

@@GameOver-nm2us the short guy who’s his coworker

[@lc4n333]

In that scene he try to run but can't open the locked door because he is too short. That's a rather disturbing joke. Idk if I have to laugh or terrified first time I see that

[@sharyageorge]

As someone in the medical field, when someone’s heart stop, even if it’s a silent alarm, someone would come rushing in to see what happened. It wouldn’t be ignored the way it is in the movie. Yes, you actually have heart monitors that make the flat line noise while others don’t but the main point is, they would be notified when there was a significant change in her vitals.

[@Takaichi666-]

Isn’t it also true that sometimes….they come back to life for a brief moment

[@azbeast1]

You’re right, but this was a psychiatric hospital that was understaffed! You can tell by how he steals the records and isn’t tracked down & also the end where he kills the Therapist and just walks out & down the hallway. Plus there’s a city wide protest/riot going on, so I’m sure there’s also a lot more patients that usual! Understaffed & over-admitted = Flatline going unchecked in timely manner

[@AL-xq6jt]

The question then is was this the case in the 80s

[@DeathByBarb]

@@AL-xq6jt yes, they even made the stereotypical flag like noises in 80s movies based off of the alarm or silent alarms of heart monitors

[@bizichyld]

Have you been to a Gotham hospital recently? They are woefully short staffed.

[@deacon238]

“I love this movie’s camera shots” +1 sin

[@rockemack]

Dismade go cry about it

[@deacon238]

rockemack this is from like 2 days ago i already cried

[@rockemack]

Dismade your honesty has filled me with ragrets, my apologies sir

[@Graphaeli]

+rockemack L

[@rockemack]

Graphaeli joker fanboy

[@drumhead89]

“I can’t imagine someone awkward at comedy getting a late night talk show” Jimmy Fallon exists.

[@DuragAllDay]

Jay Leno too.

[@fuzzyotterpaws4395]

Jimmy Fallon is awesome. The show is hilarious. The only people who say he isn't funny are the same people who say the Big Bang Theory isn't funny. A.K.A. people with no sense of humor.

[@goodgamesir1750]

@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 PSA: everyone don't be this trey walker guy

[@fuzzyotterpaws4395]

@@goodgamesir1750 You mean don't actually have a sense of humor and not hate somebody for no reason? Yeah, sure. Jimmy Fallon is a great dude with hilarious segments and we tape every episode

[@fuoco1365]

Trey Walker I think Jimmy Fallon isn’t funny but Big Bang theory is funny. So wrong there

[@swirls5000]

"Either way, all the clocks being 11:11 is a sin." *Sin count goes to 11*

[@R0B_WR]

Wow almost like that joke was intended!

[@aztn19]

Would’ve been the 12th sin, but they took a sin off for Phoenix’s performance early to make the “11” joke work.

[@jorgesuspenso5105]

That is a cabalistic number for the elites

[@neoyamerulashe3919]

I wonder if he made that Bruce Wayne "Twilight" joke while not knowing that Robert Pattinson will be the new Batman 🤣🤣🤣

[@b.sharp.]

You missed the part where Arthur's boss said "why would anyone steal a sign?" when Arthur said a bunch of kids stole his sign, right after accusing him of stealing a sign.

[@zarbixii]

The owner wouldn't be as skeptical if Arthur came in as soon as the kids stole it.

[@b.sharp.]

@@zarbixii so you're blaming the guy who got beat up in an alleyway

[@nukiradio]

This IS rather ironic. "Why did you steal our sign?" The kids stole my sign! "Why would anyone wanna steal a sign? Anyway, you're fired kiddo'

[@aaronyoghurt3234]

Mr. Sharp its his fault for handling the situation poorly, -tell the owner someone stole your sign immediately -dont chase down a bunch of kids in clown shoes, you’ll never catch them -if you did catch them, what was the plan, fight a bunch of 10 years old over a sign? -once you did get beat up tell the owner what happened, don’t walk away, how was he supposed to know what happened? from his pov Arthur just dissapeared, sure his clow co-workers knew because Arthur told them but told noone else,

[@cassidywhitfield7648]

Yeah that bugged me to. They make it clear in the movie that his boss was in the wrong for taking the sign out of his paycheck and reprimanding him for it going missing. Its a shit job, weve all been in shit jobs that take every opportunity to take what they can from you and not listen to you. Theres nothing Aurther could have done that he had not tried and failed befor to save himself here.

[@yvngmmoney3584]

he sinned the movie for a heart monitor being a heart monitor😂😂😂

[@jdrok5026]

But inaccuracy most heartbeat monitors do make noises when a change in rhythm is detected

[@yvngmmoney3584]

jdr ok key word is MOST apparently this heart monitor isn’t one of them

[@raionshishi8290]

@@jdrok5026 Not all of them, and or in some cases the monitor itself doesn't make tons of noise, the nurses themselves get a signal/notif of the situation at their desk to go and handle the issue, yes ofcourse there are those that make noise but it's still accurate to have this one in the movie.

[@johnirish2969]

That's how simple minded the interns at cinema sins has become. Jeremy has let his channel fall to shit

[@np4231]

jdr ok Actually, it was completely accurate. Heartbeat monitors do not really make a flatline sound.

[@cdlord80]

Just a guess, the mailbox cage is for the mailman to lock himself in when he's vulnerable distributing mail to the various boxes.

[@jwdathefax377]

If someone was gonna rob him of mail, they can do that well before he reaches those cages🙄….can’t believe it took years for someone to give you that response. Y’all really liked this movie huh?🤣

[@SparrowwithaMachinegun]

"Killing gives you a lot of energy" Yes, it does.

[@MaCabaret]

So edgy

[@Boomshteck]

God this is cringe

[@josuedavidolea4444]

Your not evil

[@han-tyumitheconfusedcyborg1656]

@@Boomshteck dumbass have you heard of adrenaline lol

[@phaserunner2413]

oh you know that?

[@enrique9165]

Did CinemaSins missed a ‘Roll Credits’ moment when Arthur asked to be called the Joker to Murray?

[@enderlegasov]

I think he just does that with earlier scenes.

[@ssjwiley]

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[@judeannethecandorchannel2153]

I think that running joke is kinda lame though... Imo

[@wolf1638]

I believe you just sinned CinemaSins

[@yawgmoth6568]

Mur-ray

[@hammurabitheawesome674]

"It's one of the most well-made movies I ever hated." *Proceeds to add sin* .

[@judeannethecandorchannel2153]

Yep.

[@Unchainedmaple888]

This is how I feel about watching this cinemasins. I hate this because I loved the joker and yet it is only fair because he does this to every movie, good or bad.

[@username8885]

I ruined your 420 likes

[@SLCtica]

Hammurabi the Awesome the bias is real

[@letstalkwhy93]

@Christina Aguilera TV I Madara declared u IDIOT !!

[@the_big_ragu2273]

I like how he added a sin after saying a good thing

[@eagleeyecherrypie9947]

“Mattresside” made me lose it. I almost choked.

[@josuelopez7324]

"This movie has great scenery, let's add a sin for it"

[@idiotyhjtasdfgdghnm6638]

Here to liven up the reply section

[@antoinebrocq1395]

Yeah this reply section kinda empty...where mah boiiis at?

[@hairdeduction4337]

Lol

[@hairdeduction4337]

Lol

[@kylebroflovski6382]

Lol

[@Vinkie]

1:48 "Anyway, all he clocks being 11:11 is a f*cking sin." **DlNG** Movie Sin Counter: 11

[@planktontimberhill7177]

I clicked the wrong timestamp ..ed to f*cking pee

[@niganna]

I have used KZbin for several years and not one time have I tried clicking on time stamps

[@Vinkie]

@@niganna welcome to the future, my man :)

[@csar07.]

@@planktontimberhill7177 haha same

[@markroden]

@gregory harbot look at when it was uploaded too 👀👀

[@carlkligerman1981]

I like how the stairs are used in this movie. In the early scenes he has to struggle upwards, to normality, or what passes for it in Arthur life, whereas in the latter stages his descents down various flights is celebrated, even with dance. reflecting his descent into what society deems madness is, for him, inevitable and defining. This movie rewards repeat viewing, although it is depressing as all hell. Still, the film is gorgeous aesthetically speaking and uses its setting really well.

[@noahthewright7942]

This is less of a “everything wrong with joker” and more like “everything I don’t like about the joker”

[@scottiebarnes7417]

That’s kinda the point of cinemasins if you hadn’t noticed by now

[@manicstatic370]

@@scottiebarnes7417 kinda but it definitely shows in this one

[@LoneStarVII]

@@scottiebarnes7417 now. Before it was legit inconsistencies in a movie.

[@parmesan1723]

Seriously, i know its supposed to be satire, but its not even that funny here. "i love the camera shots" *gives a sin*

[@jonmagneson]

Joker stalking. Jalking. Jokaulking. Joaquin

[@darleschickens7106]

Sinning for Batman references...in a movie about The Joker???

[@suippy]

Eh, its cinemasins we dont actually care.

[@blaisemacpherson7637]

It's a movie about society.

[@tombeats7179]

Plus...I mean, I can see why he sins it. I get it, it's a 'batman' movie. But again, it's supposed to be an origin story for Joker. Bruce isn't even in maybe 7 minutes of the damn movie yet we get so many goddamn Batman references you can't help but feel exhausted.

[@WrongNumber76]

Bro 123

[@magmamouse7270]

@@tombeats7179 Because Thomas Wayne is a main character.

[@calebsarnowski1010]

"Why would Arthur care if his sign was stolen?" He was literally fired in part because of it

[@tater8251]

@Lucas Zoffka Watch the movie, his bosses don't believe him, they literally said the exact quote "Why would anyone steal a sign?" Meaning they would have never believed. It's more questionable that some kids did that but then again teenagers are blunt, cruel people who don't even know what they are doing is cruel till long after the fact.

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

Lucas Zoffka he told him it was stolen. His boss didn’t believe him.

[@ericerb6610]

ComicWriter 2020 because he told them after he got fired

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

Eric Erb no, it was before

[@deathzbo]

@@ericerb6610 no he was fired for bringing a gun to kids at a hospital

[@judahzombiefreak]

The "how would this get framed as rich vs poor" clearly cinemasins doesn't own social media or ever read the news

[@johnavenger]

Joaquin owned this role and never left me astray in the whole film.He transformed and i was watching magic onscreen.

[@crispylizard4348]

@@whatsacone it's funny I see people that never comment on why the movies bad but they goto every comment section spewing garbage durr it's sexist bigot incel garbage. "What do you mean I have to explain why it is those things if I say it is it is"

[@_cloudface_]

@@crispylizard4348 😯 triggered hard af by a one word post...yikes, indeed

[@_Somsnosa_]

@@_cloudface_ yikes triggered by someone getting triggered.

[@gagecameron5672]

Disappointed there was not a “Laughing” bonus round.

[@mikaelafox6106]

Or a Crying bonus round. Or a Crying/Laughing bonus round.

[@theKK_spideyfans]

Disappointed he even attempted to sin this movie.

[@willlomax3315]

oh yeah take the piss out of a disability

[@plotholedetective4166]

Title should have been "everything wrong with Joker in a not funny amount of minutes"

[@nemezio9495]

@@theKK_spideyfans 1- He said he doesn't like the movie 2- He has sinned movies that he likes, so why wouldn't he sin this?

[@michaelblaine6494]

It's a fairly well known trait that schizophrenics are sometimes inconsistent with things like spelling mistakes and even having more than one handwriting style. I think that was great attention to detail and appearance of authenticity rather than laziness

[@totallynotalex9878]

@Lime Green How is it a horrible movie?

[@zyrux_]

@@totallynotalex9878 he is def a kid leave him lol

[@Austin-sw5yb]

@@lisatrappedmeinygsbasement848 you are a strange little boy.

[@TheSruediger1]

Me who has issues with a not consistent handwriting and make a few spelling errors

[@aydenulery9562]

Clorox Bleach it’s not really a movie about the joker though. Not the comic book one. It’s a movie about mental illness and other things, but it would’ve gotten less attention if it was just called clown. It’s just a way to get more viewers interested. Also it’s not boring it just makes you think. A movie doesn’t have to have action scenes and criminal heists just because that’s what the character usually is. Also “Clorox bleach” are you 12

[@k.m.z.hardesty]

I personally would've removed atleast 2 sins- definitely more, but 2 for- 1. for Arthur randomly getting inside the fridge & closing the door, and 2. When he shot "Mur-ray" was amazing, and his acting throughout that entire scene, how he finally broke down into complete madness after the subtle countdown. Jouquin Phoenix's performance was one of the best I've ever seen and I'm NOT saying he's the best Joker. He was just perfect for this particular role in this particular film. Very unique to say the least. This is just my opinion.

[@kolinnitruc8692]

12:36 Even though it’s been said and displayed many times before, you seem to forget he doesn’t have control over it

[@jackras6139]

2:36 the cage is for the mail man, he locks it behind himself when distributing the mail because he opens up all the boxes at once, and in those areas they often deliver disability/unemployment checks, and given the time period, likely some work checks as well.

[@ShaudaySmith]

honestly didn't know that and was confused by that scene. Thanks for the info!

[@dragontalon9158]

Huh, I did not know that was a thing. You rock dude

[@MrBillyBlade]

Well, i might be reading too much into this theory but wouldn't someone just attack him before he goes into the cage? Unless he has his mailbag locked up too...? Excuse me i have no knowledge of mailman's tools

[@anzordoghoz6488]

Somebody lives in the tri state👍

[@PigreKo]

UnicornSpaceWhale the idea is that you would feel safe from being cornered while delivering. To attack a mailman in the clear would be too dangerous for a random junkie, and most of the time you would get no money out of it.

[@nameless7838]

Zazie Beetz wasn't his girlfriend in that scene. Or the other scene. Or any of them.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

None of them. It's all fake.

[@samb8744]

Yeh what a shitty reveal and plot device. Dunno how anyone actually thought their relationship was real.

[@danielj8085]

@@samb8744 It was all in the mind of a mentally ill person. What else did you expect?

[@marcthomas5949]

I brought it as first but when he opened the door straight Into a kiss is when I called bs

[@Jackn17_]

marc thomas You really need to check your spelling

[@notaprogamer2782]

The further you go into the movie, the more the significance of the 11 was. You can spot numbers from 11 slowly dropping down to an ace at the crash scene, then leading to a clock at the same time the first one was at

[@dragonorb9288]

"Every clock is 11:11" "oh shit, a clock that isn't 11:11 right here on the Murray show, sin for consistency'

[@davidnainggolan6763]

Joker: *breathes* CinemaSins: "Your sin is unforgivable."

[@ColtonK1L]

Bruh, fr

[@user-nf9sz6cy7l]

At 8:06 he says bruce what banner etc etc i mean he is at the wayne Mansion which bruce he finds?

[@hharveeyyy]

Lime Green it was amazing what

[@justarandommouse5668]

@Lime Green because it represents your sad life

[@tiddler3747]

Ali JAwad it is a stupid sin he makes. Like why does he need to clarify that his last name is Wayne. It’s a dc movie about the joker, why the fuck would it be banner.

[@ben4525]

The cage around the mail boxes is to protect the MAILMAN when delivering the mail. Mailman goes it and unlocks ALL the mail boxes at once, is carrying an entire apartment buildings mail in a canvas bag. Some street rat bashes the mailman with a bat and runs away with a hundred Social Security checks and a fistful of food stamps.

[@robynguy3244]

THANK YOU! 👏

[@veselyi110]

what exactly would stop the aforementioned street rat from bashing the mailman BEFORE he enters the cage?

[@raionshishi8290]

@@veselyi110 The mailman could see it coming and or defend himself and or call for help, but having his back turned and dealing with tons of mail and being occupied can have those people sneak up behind him, either way it's a real thing.

[@veselyi110]

​@@raionshishi8290 so you're saying you've seen cages like this installed somewhere? or you THINK it is realistic?

[@petza7]

@@veselyi110 shut up u sped

[@Assassin-mn6vi]

he says that the movie makes Arthur the victim in the train scene and then proceeds to criticise the movie for an incorrect bullet count as if the whole move hasn't had the theme of an unreliable narrator and that maybe the train scene was supposed to be taken with a large grain of salt

[@johnnyweston9954]

The biggest flaw in the movie wasn't mentioned here. Arthur crawling into the type of refrigerators that were banned because they are impossible to escape from once inside.

[@b_p5558]

God forbid they put a Batman reference in a movie about his greatest enemy. The Joker

[@mishmash906]

Lime Green so do you❤️

[@b_p5558]

Clorox Bleach It is one of my favorite movies, I think it’s good in my opinion

[@FollowPrincess]

@@lisatrappedmeinygsbasement848 saying shit like Shazam is better, certainly makes your opinion not reliable or trustworthy. I think the film is good, not necessarily the greatest movie I ever saw, but pretty good at what it does. 8 rating out of 10.

[@XBroForeverX]

@@lisatrappedmeinygsbasement848 shazam was DC's horrible attempt at stealing the Deadpool idea from Marvel..

[@jmarra07]

It wasn't even a Batman reference anyways

[@dan5609]

He gives it a sin because "wow, killing really gives you a lot of energy..." An adrenaline rush does actually give you a lot of energy.

[@palmersmith8557]

😨

[@TShadowStalker]

Dan Hurd I think most normal people who kill go numb and dissociate for several minutes as they panic and their brains don’t know what to do so they freeze up. That’s why most murderers are caught.

[@dan5609]

@@TShadowStalker psychological other side of the coin. As in PTSD that soldiers experience. Absolutely that does happen when normal people are put into extreme kill or be killed situations, but this is the joker and being psychotic is his super power.

[@guliecarrington9996]

Dan Hurd he gets sin happy sometimes. Really seems like the type that LOVES to hear himself talk.

[@jingwan6319]

@@TShadowStalker key word normal

[@artsafact_official]

cinema sins gets a sin for not understanding what dyslexia is

[@luiscesarvianagomes970]

Something about this movie that CS misses is that IT IS 99% hallucination. Almost like the story is being told by Arthur, and he is twisting it to his favor, so that he is comes out almost like a hero, when in reality he is just a psychopath. If you keep that in mind while watching the movie, almost 3/4 of the sins in this video fit in the narrative. From the riots being because of him, to the way everyone treats him. Even the burst out laughing makes more sense if you assume the movie is him telling the story, because it mainly happens just before he kills someone.

[@zemxxi2765]

More than likely, he is a late middle aged (by Batman's time) Arkham inmate who fantasizes about being the Joker.

[@snythesly]

"I wouldn't touch those handrails if you paid me a hundred dollars" *sins the movie* what

[@oriijin5639]

This channel is trying so hard to be funny and sounding so smart in the same time so what did you expect

[@snythesly]

@@oriijin5639 it's so condescending and cringe at this point

[@Matt-zf9bf]

This real life setting is dirty! I hate this movie, Joker bad!

[@yusufbobat1806]

@@snythesly agreed man They try way too hard these days on this channel. Some of the "sins" was complete nonsense or intense nitpicking or just straight up guesswork. "I feel like that gun doesn't hold 8 bullets" Such nonsense. And some of the random jokes made by this guy were counted as sins. The one about this movie having lots of great shots (the train) "the best movie I ever hated" was a sin for some reason

[@guaneerjock6247]

Lmao ItzYadaran then why do you still watch

[@Notoriouslydevious]

“I can’t imagine someone awkward at comedy getting a late night talk show." Lilly Singh.

[@ikennaenwelum7798]

Big OOF

[@jasperweinberger2439]

to be fair tho, that further expands on the idea that this is only the very very sad daydream of a broken and sick man. hence him not being the actual joker

[@jasperweinberger2439]

@@sizzlemylizzle9142 exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if king of comedy, taxi driver, american psyco and clockwork orange didnt exist this would be the best movie of all time. prove me wrong

[@priscillajimenez27]

Awkward is putting it nicely

[@DrRAZI99]

Jasper Weinbeger your opinion

[@heem8232]

Literally one of the Joker's most famous quotes is : "If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice.", we cant take anything about this movie as fact and I love it. Im kinda hoping Joker 2 will be another origin story but its unlikely

[@r.speirs]

Arthur Fleck is 11 letters. Every time you see a clock Arthur is losing himself a little more. On Murray’s set the clock isn’t on 11:11 because Arthur is now completely the Joker.

[@aureliano_37]

how did you even notice that, it's amazing.

[@r.speirs]

I re-watched the movie a few times and noticed whenever Arthur was having a mental snap the clocks were at 11:11, it could be a coincidence but it seems very intentional.

[@greenassassin2227]

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

[@paulk6399]

R. Speirs nothing in cinema is a coincidence IMO There are mistakes but never coincidences

[@Parkswaves]

Big brain hours

[@Moist_Capybara]

I don’t know if it’s been answered but here you go: Grew up in NYC and that cage is for the mail carrier. They are going into a private building and who knows what is in there. So they would lock it behind them to be able to put packages away safely

[@nerolox8413]

The US is such a dangerous shithole where people live in constant fear. I'm glad I live in a normal country.

[@noahgreene7565]

Nerolox good to know, thanks for adding to the conversation👍

[@thebrokegothgirl]

Yup,grew up down the street from these stairs

[@invisigrl]

Yes Nerolox because there is no crime in other countries. I wish you were right because people would stop coming here and making it overcrowded. They should have cut us all off 80 years ago. I would be living in Italy if they had.

[@levyalvesdacunha8187]

Paul Osc Slots yeah, sure thing, guy who knows the attendance of home defence seminars.

[@GyeongmiBaeb]

That Chris ACTUALLY tried that is freaking hilarious

[@JNelsonArt]

6:30 I just realized that in all the scenes with stairs in the movie, he is always shown descending them and never ascending them. Perhaps to symbolize his descent into madness?

[@dannydaw59]

2 sins should be taken off: The dirty handrails and too much garbage. The movie tells the viewer that there's a garbage strike and the city is supposed to be gritty.

[@Dwadedragon]

Only 2? Lmao try again.

[@inspectorlunge3887]

@DANNYDAW59 I watched a monologue of one of the people that made this movie, and he said it was supposed to look like New York City also. New York City is known to have A LOT of trash piled up everywhere.

[@StudioInkblot]

The video acknowledges that but still thinks it went overboard

[@laurituomiaro2050]

@@Dwadedragon Lmaooo you actually think his videos are serious? Most of the sins are usually jokes, people have been getting incredibly butthurt from this single video.

[@Dwadedragon]

@@laurituomiaro2050 it's clear that he includes real criticism in these videos as well. CS actually used to point out real movie mistakes in the early days, hence the vids being waaayy shorter. It's quite obvious to anyone who has been subbed for years that they've chosen to pad their "sin" count with unfunny "jokes", obscure references, Jeremy pointing out things that are happening on screen, Jeremy asking questions that are answered if you simply watch the movie, etc, in order to lengthen the vid for money. CS tries to hide their critiques under the guise of satire or comedy. Not my fault that I see through it, soooooo not butthurt bruh, just aware of reality

[@icarus8432]

“I’m giving this movie a sin for all the clocks being 11:11” *TING* *Is the 11th sin*

[@elbilal.]

😳😳😳

[@mrnukes797]

16:21 Wtf why didn't they blur that

[@fallen_vague48]

Coincidence? I think *_NOT_*

[@adamszczupak6937]

I AM 666

[@nathoncapps6085]

At 111 seconds aka 1:51

[@ciarabeart2736]

I think a lot of these 'sins' are unnecessary. Like the hand railings at the top of some stairs and how dirty they are? This movie I think was incredible and had such an amazing attention to the smallest details. I loved it.

[@thegeneralgamer4921]

This comment is also unnecessary. But, atlas, just like they give sins for their own reasons, you too comment for you own reasons Also most of the sins aren't serious. It's random sins to laugh at, not an actual movie critique. When you have 123 sins, some are bound to be not-so-great

[@arjunski]

16:31 I feel that the reason 11:11 isn't displayed on the Talk Show is to show Arthur has gained (or through the process of being on the Talk Show) is finally gaining his confidence since the number is no longer 11. And then the clock at the asylum that he was being held in at the end reads 11:11 since that's what we as an audience is supposed to feel as we've watched this mostly sympathetic character fall into madness (could be a bit of a stretch, but that's my thought!)

[@DavidFrat123]

The thing with the stairs is that he only walks UP them at the start, when things are becoming worse for him. Then, once he cracks, he only ever walks DOWN the stairs.

[@DubberOne1]

Thats really interesting. What might the meaning be? While going UP he still has Hope left, but after that all he does is walk down his road of insanity?

[@cwilly12]

DubberOne it’s basically symbolism for his decline into what he has become .

[@maxhalle-podell6635]

Wow so complex

[@onlinecitizen3266]

@@maxhalle-podell6635 It's not complex. It's subtle and easy to miss if you aren't looking for symbolism. A lot was ham-fisted in Joker, but this wasn't.

[@maxhalle-podell6635]

OnlineCitizen 32 i know I was being sarcastic

[@Teejay46.2]

The reason why the subway murders started a “spark” in the revolution againts the rich is because before the Joker murdered those people dressed as a clown, Wayne called the protesters “clowns” in the news, so the poor/average class thought that the murderer did it in a clown outfit because of that statement Wayne made, thus kickstarting an eat-the-rich movement.

[@alexandererhard2516]

Amen to that. This movie mercilessly critizised the media and rich people for being out of touch with reality, and disregarding the citizens as evil clowns, thereby creating the movement against them. Which then results in Murray being shot and the city rioting. In an excellent case of irony, the real life media didn't like that critizism and claimed that the movie is dangerous and will cause violence. As result, the movie garnered a lot of interest and made 1 billion dollars. This has to be one of the most glorious times where fictional and real events complement each other.

[@danieldavid3355]

no sense at all, this is the hole plot of the movie and it's just not believeable.

[@adamsandler4832]

daniel david except it literally is, did u just read his comment or did u completely ignore

[@sumeetjain2973]

But wait didn’t Wayne call the poor people clowns after the murder was committed ?

[@dannyt3522]

ShePlayed Me sooo basically the left wing of America currently ?

[@ronblaess1]

In Germany, carnival season starts on November 11, at precisely 11:11 am - each year. That is when everyone is allowed to act insane.

[@denisedillinger1354]

6:14 I cried laughing love your commentary. i have been binge watching for days ❤❤❤. how do you make your comic movie stand out like it’s high art ? make your character slow dance to haunting Chello music 😂

[@doobasaurus]

"I wouldn't touch those handrails if you paid me a hundred dollars" *Gives the movie a sin* Okay

[@Creamboxes]

Makes sense

[@phoenixbreakfastedal1196]

it's cause the joker touches them

[@badposture4968]

I would touch them, Especially since i now know the Joker touched them.

[@cyanidesoup]

@@badposture4968 thats actually akward

[@badposture4968]

Spooky Pumpkin bruh. The Joker is awesome why wouldn’t you wanna touch something he touched? It’s a once In a lifetime experience smh

[@steffanofumo]

Cinemasins is all fun and games until they make a video on a movie you like lol

[@sarahdavis2723]

My favorite CinemaSins are about films I like.. love, actually.

[@castorpolux9050]

Cinemasins is all fun and games until you realize is the same set of jokes all over again

[@aztn19]

I still think it’s fun & games lol!! I think they’ll rip into the CGI Addams Family movie next; I liked that film way more than Joker but I’m sure they’ll hate on it almost as equally.

[@MediaStudio88]

@@aztn19 Yeah.. you "think" that they'll do that after 2.5 hours of the video being uploaded. Are you so serious in getting attention? Actually don't answer..

[@aztn19]

@mr.magic I genuinely didn’t know that they did. Your notice was the first time that I knew about it! Thanks for the attention I didn’t realize I was searching for when I was liking someone else’s comment!!

[@kswone1]

I laughed out loud at the part about the cardboard "Everything must go" sign. That's a trick that people do all along canal street in NYC. They always have a going out of business sign up cause dumb ass tourists will go in and drop a bunch of money not realizing that the store will be there next year with the same sign in the window. Also, that infamous staircase from the dancing scene is in the Bronx right off of Jerome ave. I heard they cleaned that neighborhood up but it used to be a drug spot back in the day and was my very first weed spot as a kid so trust me when I say that tourists probably won't go there lol. They had these fat ass nicks that would go for 20 all day in my high school lol.

[@Mr.G_717]

Then it's not a nic it's a dub. Nic means 5 lol you got beat

[@TheSteffChris]

U don’t believe the character de Niro is playing would ever get a show???? May I introduce you to Bill Maher

[@acycle2124]

Joker: sets up a terrible society Cinemasins: sins the movie for having a terrible society

[@leob4403]

It's not a sin for being terrible, it's a sin for not being believable

[@dhamin8168]

Leo B It’s Gotham city. What did you expect?

[@arkansasisbetterthanyouthi3963]

Leo B did you ever look at Gotham in a comic book, movie or tv show EVER?

[@leob4403]

@@Blitz-dm3kv Joker's just going around murdering people left and right, there's no security anywhere, he can kill his mother and a talk show host, steal the files at the asylum etc, there's nothing at stake nor any tension to the plot. As pointed out in the video, it's over the top, a bunch of kids beat down a clown and steal his sign, it's just silly and not dark and believable, the way the first two Nolan movies managed to be. Or even better examples, Taxi Driver or Machinist. Machinist as referenced in this video is a underrated masterpiece, where the plot unfolds masterfully, there's a real tension to Christian Bales character and his perception of what is real and descent into madness, where the payoff at the end is huge, and a plot twist that works. Joker doesn't hold a candle to these movies. Like they say, if it was not related to DC you lot wouldn't give two shits about it

[@dhamin8168]

Leo B Like I said. Welcome to Gotham

[@Y337n3ss]

you know a movie is good when CinemaSins adds a sin for absolutely everything and its still below 130 sins

[@LegendaryTerrorist32]

Except he hated the movie.

[@nemezizthedestroyer5237]

@@LegendaryTerrorist32 nah That's just a joke

[@biggie-cheese2]

@Lime Green you must be 9 years old lol

[@riddlemethis2610]

Eh. I thought the movie was okay. It crossed the line between homage and plagiarism in a few too many parts. It seemed heavily *"inspired"* by "Taxi Driver" "The King of Comedy" and "The Network" Do watch those movies if you haven't seen them.

[@elvishernandez2555]

@@biggie-cheese2 why am i seeing you everywhere!!

[@jacerox]

"who goes running after a large group of thieves over a cardboard sign?" I'm not convinced you watched the movie. I can't believe this channel still exists.

[@nishidkhode8604]

And he nearly got fired for it Cinemasins needs to stop being this way...

[@bretharley2456]

They made a billion dollars from a mental illness character study wrapped in a superhero origin story.

[@Segway999]

ALSO also, no roll-credits sin for the "can you introduce me as Joker"?

[@G-Unit1111]

Yeah that was the first thing I thought when I saw it in the theater and Robert DeNiro said "Get a load of this Joker!".

[@NG-we8uu]

G-Unit1111 that’s Harley Quinn’s line in super villain bowl

[@devilfromhell8546]

joaquin Phoenix's acting is next level in this movie

[@johnp.smithasimpleman7281]

In every movie

[@PaulAlbrecht82]

LoL, his acting sucked and the script was beyond dumb, it was stupid hacky garbage

[@Xatroid]

@@PaulAlbrecht82 nice bait bitch

[@hindspeter8556]

@@Xatroid 😂😂

[@Hhifix]

True

[@weirddood1774]

That gunshot at the end was shocking, beautiful, and is frightening all at once

[@zaworld2348]

ok you were probably right about the murry scene clock but I think it could have shown that arthur became more confident and wasn't shy at that moment that is why the clock wasn't 11:11 but idk

[@phosphoros60]

"Welcome to Gotham - here you have to walk UP to get to Hell" would make a great city motto

[@Araneus21]

Welcome to Gotham, we got ham... and other groceries

[@theheavytonk928]

@@Araneus21 lmao

[@bopperette7260]

It's also like that in Birmingham - UK so maybe they should have it as their motto instead. Not sorry lmao 🤷‍♀️😁

[@ChonkedCat]

@@bopperette7260 cringe

[@sethboettcher4239]

He says, "I can’t imagine someone awkward at comedy getting a late night talk show" Murray basically has Jay Leno's style

[@emor6100]

Leno had a shit load of charisma when he got his show

[@BobPapadopoulos]

I'm struggling to think of a late night talkshow host not named Conan O'Brien who is funny. Fallon just makes a joke and then stares awkwardly until the applause light comes on. Same for Meyers: tell the joke and then make the dumbest possible facial expression. Kimmel hasn't been funny since Man Show, and even that was mostly carried by Adam Corolla's extremely dry humor.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

I know Murray is played by Robert DeNiro but for some reason, I see Robert DeNiro is playing Jay Leno.

[@yrnquin1560]

Bob Papadopoulos Dave Chappell

[@wistfulgraph]

For Sin 6, did you watch the movie? Arthur says he doesn’t have the sign because he got jumped and the boss doesn’t believe him because it’s just a sign.

[@alexanderhanksx]

42: His use of “cents” went right over your head

[@muhammedshamil2443]

Actually, the movie has a lot of Easter eggs related to joker's descent into madness. The clock shows 11 because he isn't mad yet. Then at different points in the movie, there comes 10, 9 8 7 6 ...and goes on upto 2, representing that he is on the brink of madness. When he is in the middle of the uprising, the Billboard behind him says ace, showing that he is completely insane at this point.

[@RokuHanmar]

Why ace?

[@theunslombard9213]

@@RokuHanmar Cards. Just like the joker comes from cards

[@RokuHanmar]

@@theunslombard9213 I know what an ace is. I meant why an ace specifically?

[@theunslombard9213]

@@RokuHanmar Because in cards ace is 1

[@markshaw270]

@@theunslombard9213 Ace card can be 1 or 11.

[@stephenbruns3943]

no sin for the Wayne's being out and downtown during riot season, with no body guards, even just leaving the theater was dumb when you can see whats going on outside.

[@akosbarati2239]

Thomas Wayne is an objectivist icon, who needed no protection because by the virtue of his own existence, as is the case with most libertarians, no harm can come to those that as he put it "made something out of their lives".

[@akosbarati2239]

@Jon Goat If you invoke Lennon, then you remember that he met him earlier that day, hounding for an autograph. Reagan's assassin also got pretty close to him in '81 despite having bodyguards. Yet, and I stand by it, Thomas Wayne in most of his comic book iterations lived his life as "this will never happen to me". Heck, some adaptations had him in the Owl Society exactly for the reason to conspire and condemn the city for its perceived inherent sins.

[@blueboy1958]

People are stupid and do stupid mistakes when stressed or pressured. I dont think that would be a sin.

[@communityreject3627]

Yeah it's not a sin if it the character is portrayed correctly.

[@TH3F4LC0Nx]

@Akos Barati Thomas Wayne is an "objectivist icon"? I don't remember there being ANY Randian connotations associated with his character in the movie. His remark about people who "made something out of their lives" was just a vague generalization that anyone could have said. He's barely even in the movie at all, and we don't even know how he created Wayne Enterprises (let alone what business Wayne Enterprises even does!). And no, most Libertarians do not think that they are invulnerable because they've "made something out of their lives". I think you're reading into the movie what you want to.

[@SithLordMalgus]

3:21 “he is super awkward at comedy” ?? Dirty Grandpa is a great indication as to why your statement is false.

[@kintero27]

The symbolism of him walking up the stairs, is trying to get out of depression at finding his mental illness. When he dances down the stairs, he finally gives into his mental illness and wants to take over.

[@Quintusblake]

The 11th sin is about how the clocks read 11:11. I’m sinning that.

[@RedEveTillDawn]

Quintusblake oh my gosh I was the 11th like on this comment 😂 winner winner chicken dinner

[@raiderrocker18]

im giving it 11 sins because it wasn't at the 11:11 point of the video

[@vesti4785]

technically its the 12th... don't kill me pls

[@tobybartels8426]

@@vesti4785 : Yes, that's why he had to remove the sin for Joaquin Phoenix's acting (which he could have done at any time) first.

[@TheSBleeder]

Stores use "Going Out of Business" as a sales strategy all the time.

[@greysatinx2724]

He was talking about the clown no the sign no one needs a clown sign spinner to show going out of business

[@scud100]

I need a bad bleep . Why not? It’s actually a great way to get attention if you need to close shop soon and need to sell your stock before it’s worthless... it actually makes a lot of sense and I’ve seen similar things many times.

[@JohnDoe-dt3by]

That just the guys from the zohan.

[@TheWmubronco30]

There was a furniture store in the town I went to college that was going out of business for all 4 years I was there

[@MissKitae]

@@TheWmubronco30 There was a store near my first apartment called "going out of business". Everything they sold was from other stores that had gone under, or their dumped out clearance; it was weird, disjointed stock at long as it was open, and all dirt cheap. I picked up a 50.00 tub of Wilton cookie cutters for 5 bucks. Would have grabbed both, but another lady had the same idea as me.

[@claudialawrence353]

He sinned the movie because he thought there was no way the public would come to a 'rich vs poor' solution, however Arthur was defending a woman that witnessed it up to a certain point so...

[@nishidkhode8604]

He just loves sinning for stupid reasons ...like bringing the Marvel 11 nomination reference...it's stupid to compare it Endgame was about many superheroes coming together in a finale type war Joker an r rated movie about a clown does the same amt of bussiness coz real cinema

[@adamcontreras1486]

Seeing the edits and clips at the end always makes me feel like I'm watching Botchamania

[@amirave69]

*Literally, every logo in a movie* CinemaSins : _+1 sin_

[@chambeet]

amirave 69 It’s obnoxious. I found ZERO wrong with the title cards and logos in this movie.

[@blaisemacpherson7637]

Don't think of them a sins just as jokes. I don't think half of the things they sin are really sins but here I am still watching. It's a fun program and a way forus to relive a movie and vent about the little things that annoyed us. Outta Nothing to get offended about.

[@JoeMama-tw6gu]

the sins mean nothing though. i mean he literally compliments the movie and then gives it a sin. each sin is just for each thing he says.

[@Capri_00]

No, Monsters Inc didn’t. He took off sins because the logos were only 10 seconds.

[@lordshrimpramen5589]

@Edward Chamberlin That’s just a joke with the channel now, too long of an intro, *sin!* it’s just normal, if you didn’t see it, it would be feel a little weird if it just stopped.

[@Memorex996]

*19 minutes long* How bout another joke Jeremay

[@BrookeHarris82]

😂

[@dianaspeechless]

✨👌💯 🤫 🤭

[@NoLiveking87]

What do you get when you cross a million mentally ill loner subscribers with a review that abandons them and treats their movie like trash? You get the dislikes you're f*cking deserve! *click*

[@IROC-Z28]

@@NoLiveking87 And always remember, unsubscribe!

[@OscarGT25]

When the clock is not 11:11, that's probably an indirect way of telling us Aurthur no longer feels anxious, sad, nor confused. Instead, his mind is clear,and he is resolved to live and do what he does best.

[@omgitsclaire5901]

I love how at the beginning he is just cry laughing in front of his social worker lady.🤣🤣🤣 I can just see the lady saying “ I’m just going to paper work so when your done with your episode just let me know” 😂😂😂

[@supersupersupersupersupers9670]

One sin for the lady on the bus, she didn't gave back the card to Arthur

[@TurnipCart]

Ya that bothered me too

[@88porpoise]

Which is actually a relevant plot point later when he doesn’t have the card...

[@Heylon1313]

In other words, that lady killed batman's parents.

[@Anakin-Skywalker.]

nico freiler if you think about it

[@randomgamer625]

SuperCorporation this channel nitpicks movies for fun don’t take it so seriously there not trying to criticize the movie it’s all for fun

[@raymondmichael2421]

Notice that the use of stairs in the moving signifies Arthur trying to climb out of his life...out of his insanity. Notice the struggle he has climbing the stairs and then when he's shown going down stairs as he descends into insanity. Especially the final time going down the stairs when he's dancing and being generally insane. Loved that symbolism even if it's a bit on the nose.

[@markmerzweiler909]

Good observation.

[@usernameusername882]

It’s people like you that ruin this movie, you all try and act like it’s some grand philosophical political commentary and give it more merit than it deserves, Phoenix is the only thing that saved it from being shit

[@paulo_f1]

@@usernameusername882 yeah, you clearly haven't understood Joker's life

[@mlpsentry966]

@@usernameusername882 There was literal shit tons of symbolism in this movie to show the jokers descent into madness. OP made a good observation about what seems like intentional symbolism. It's not like he tried to theorize why Shakespeare made romeo wear blue socks on sunday to show hes sad or some shit he just pointed out a very good point of this movies script. Also I dont understand how an audience of a movie can make a movie bad... it's not like he changed the movie because you disagree or dislike what he said doesnt "ruin this movie"

[@usernameusername882]

Paulo Monteiro oOOooo U hAVEnT uNdErsTood hiS LiFe my man was literally a fucking lunatic just because his mom was bad like grow tf up.

[@gushenry2051]

the bullets thing where the gun shoots eight times... I pointed this out to my friends when I first watched the film and told them that in earlier shots you can clearly see it s a six chamber handgun, they called me a nerd and told me to stop looking into it so much.

[@carnage337.]

When Cinema Sins mentioned the 11 thing he gave it sin #11 1:50

[@TStamp-lw4ku]

Sounds like Jeremy didn’t like the movie? Or did the people who wrote these jokes not like it?

[@DaFunBroz]

T. Stamp I say this at the risk of getting hate but honestly I agreed with his summation. It’s a very well made movie with amazing acting but I hated watching it.

[@Silver-gd9lg]

@@DaFunBroz admittedly, the plot is far fetched. But dam, Phoenix is one helluva actor

[@penquinn6942]

Welcome to Cinemasins, asshole

[@daikoncentris3425]

It’s his job

[@hapichampagne5916]

thats the whole point of the show, is just to take their random shots and apply it. doesn't mean they didn't like it, just means its got a lot of continuity and shit to point out in it

[@granolaa2877]

"All the clocks being 11:11 is a f*cking sin!" *adds* *sin* *number* *11*

[@dragonfangalexander]

And then proceeds to sin a clock not at 11:11. Savage.

[@fuzzyotterpaws4395]

I never noticed that!

[@LoreMaster007]

(X-files music plays)

[@redbeardthepink4809]

One of my favorite pet peeves is to start counting the shots between reloads in movies and tv. It's like they don't even try with that shit.

[@DestinationD]

'Let the professionals do real actual job so I can put my content out. Cha-ching! ..Have I ever made a movie? What am I, A CLOWN? But hit that bell though.'

[@dafatty8472]

"That being said, all the clocks reading 11:11 is a f*cking sin." Sin counter: 11

[@desertliongaming6619]

Just saying the time stamp you put down is perfect to hear something that scares gamers to the core

[@toastialian]

@Lime Green "Society"

[@neallawrence8796]

At 11:11 the movie sin timer is 11 minutes

[@jacobperreault6844]

Therefore that sin is a sin for saying it is a sin

[@virtual_viking8908]

"All the clocks being 11:11 is a sin". And was it by accident or design for that particular sin to be the 11th sin?

[@funnyrandomvids9037]

Virtual_Viking I’m sure it was done on purpose.

[@abcmsaj]

I'm anxious :(

[@colormedubious4747]

Coincidence or... ALIENS?!?

[@vivianasanguine1169]

Virtual_Viking OOOOOHHH GOT EM

[@danielholguin7621]

This is officially the confirmation that this man doesn’t like any movie

[@SkeithLangley]

7:50 did cinemasins really predict Robert Patterson from twilight to become Batman???

[@704ALS]

CinemaSins: All the clocks being 11:11 is a sin *MOVIE SIN COUNTER IS NOW 11*

[@5.0_Frank]

Something fishy is going on here...

[@muhlestermoon6436]

ALS I GOT 5 ON IT🎶

[@wyndhamcoffman8961]

You see we have this clock up to 11 now; before the counter only went up to 10, but once you hit 10 where can you go, so we put it up to 11. So why don't you make 10 more powerful, and make 10 the highest? Because it goes up to 11.

[@cap3423]

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

[@youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186]

WOW

[@dreamvillez]

Sometimes the vids are extra nitpicky. This is one of them

[@bip-bap4774]

He's only "extra nitpicky" for the good movies. There just isn't a lot to sin.

[@jube8835]

Totally not controversial

[@MarcelNL]

Yeah I can understand this movie isn't as big a masterpiece as it feels to some people, but I'm not even halfway watching this review and I'm already pretty irritated by the sinning this time. The sinning should be funny, not just to rip a movie that you personally don't like to shreds.

[@xannylennox]

That’s the joke: the point of the videos are meant to give valid criticisms while being nitpicky for comedy

[@pokerbuddy62]

Jeremy has made it abundantly clear that he hates everything DC comics and he will suck off everyone who's ever been involved in a Marvel movie

[@thefracturedbutwhole5475]

This whole movie is told from Arthur's perspective (the unreliable story teller), that's why you see a relationship that isn't real , why his 6 shot revolver fires too many times etc..., the details are supposed to be off.

[@attilamert6973]

Actually it was a 8 round revolver

[@l3k561]

Arthur being an unreliable narrator can be used as a cop-out for literally any flaw in the movie in that case then

[@attilamert6973]

@@l3k561 Or the fact that 70% of these aren't even real sins....

[@zeo4481]

16:57 Ok this entre video is one giant Sin on you for making it .. BUT this ! This joke is hilarious and deserves a like from me dear sir!👏👏

[@mjwoods14]

The seat I sat in while watching this movie was uncomfortable Ting!

[@dusty203]

LMAO

[@C_Cooke]

D I N G !

[@depressedtaco1016]

The guy 3 seats down from me was eating popcorn loudly, I’m adding 30 sins. d-d-d-ddding

[@thorshammer1815]

The soda I drank had more ice cubes than the actual beverage. Ting!

[@pdzombie1906]

This movie made a billion dollars, Ding!