The Quran's Many Problems 05 - Early Quranic Manuscripts - The Samarkand Manuscript

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@marmosetfreund8506
@marmosetfreund8506 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your channel, I'm trying to show this to my Quran-alone muslim friends. They are actually harder to convince because they believe in zero hadith, don't accept anything the hadith say about history,etc. (b/c they think hadith were fabricated by the enemies of Islam to slander the Quran and Muhammad) Furthermore they are hard to convince concerning these textual issues b/c they think the miracle of the code 19 shows the true Quran once they run their math program through all the manuscripts. I'm trying to talk to them and show them, one by one, but its hard work, they are really deep into code 19 and their own apologetics.
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
*Ruzgar Liahnyn* I find the Quraniyoon to be baseless in their beliefs. In Quran, Allah gives around 20 commands to "follow"/"obey" him and his messenger, and I see no way they can do that without sunnah. Muhammad is only named four times in Quran, and none of it contains his history, his words, his deeds, his wars! Were I Muslim, I'd probably try to deny the sunnah, too, but Islam is what it is, not what myriads of Muslims want it to be. There's no way to sanitize this sewer of Islam, so being Quran-only just makes them heretics.
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
*sayedf11* Don't try to steamroll us with ignorant rhetoric; it doesn't work. I'm not even reading your pamphlet length presentation of utter ignorance. Allah's all talk, no evidence, so let's deal with THAT, since your cult is the only religious system on the planet with a mandate to subdued every continent of the globe, through deceit or violence. I get the feeling your IQ is the "11" in your name, so I realize it's like talking to a shrub in my front yard when dealing with you. This isn't the first time your flung your stupidity in these public venues. You're like a chimp in a zoo, flinging its poop through its cage. Jesus condemns Islam, because Muhammad is such a filthy sinner, doomed for hell. Moses would have had your profligate messenger stoned to death for his heresy and sexual gluttony. Read Leviticus, the book of Law. Your imbecile god, knew NO science, NO ancient history, nor the Bible he claimed to have "sent". I know what Allah knows not, and I knew much of it while still in middle-school. I know his stated stupidity, recorded in Quran, is NOT a divine attribute. It's a hallmark of the ignorant, illiterate Bedouin who actually animated that pagan idol of the jahiliyah. Idols are insensate; Allah was used as a puppet. Now, let's talk!!
@Not.Wise777
@Not.Wise777 6 жыл бұрын
Hai i am muslim who follow Quran only nice to know you 😊
@stephenhowe4107
@stephenhowe4107 6 жыл бұрын
Your zero hadith friends will have a problem. About 20% of the Quran has no context whatsoever. So how will they know what it says? It is as clear as mud. And the Quran mentions Muhammad 4 times, Mecca once, Bacca once, Jerusalem NEVER. It mentions Muhammad sins in Surah 48, Ayat 1-2.
@bnlimon7437
@bnlimon7437 3 жыл бұрын
@Handy Man What do you think about bible? Bible has also satanic verse. Do you know once your so called God Jesus was controlled by Satan (See mark 1:13).Now you tell me which book contains satanic verses. Bible or, Quran? And Secondly, every single word of Quran are the word of Almighty God.
@socialroi2673
@socialroi2673 3 жыл бұрын
I have memorised 2/3 of the Quran, many of my friends and family have completed the memorisation. Islam is an oral tradition and we carry the word of God in our hearts, its been passed down the centuries in this way. Errors by scribes can not be put forward as an way of proving that Quran is not preserved or false. I live in Cape Town, at the Auwal mosque, you will find a Quran, written 350 Years ago through memory, by a slave that was brought to the Cape, through the colonists of Europe. The Qur'an has slight variations and typography errors, but correct recitation without these mistakes can be heard in every mosque here, because, he passed the Qur'an to his family by memory. الحمدلله
@tash779
@tash779 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how the human memory works but looool
@patateslikofte6474
@patateslikofte6474 3 жыл бұрын
@@tash779 yea, you *cant* preserve a text that long by just memorising it and teaching it to the next generation
@abdullahk8691
@abdullahk8691 2 жыл бұрын
@@tash779 yes we have millions of hufaaz and gave done for centuries
@taab84
@taab84 2 жыл бұрын
@@tash779 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHPala2Vi6-MftU
@johnzuma4688
@johnzuma4688 2 жыл бұрын
So which quran did you memorize?
@theshield827
@theshield827 4 жыл бұрын
Before talking about ghd Quran the preserved book of Allab try to solve your confusing problem 1+1+1=1
@maulinux1
@maulinux1 4 жыл бұрын
Just know the mathematical analysis: infinite + infinite + infinite = infinite Mathematics shows that the Trinity perfectly agrees with logic.
@Anom8177
@Anom8177 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, You are the confused one. Use this formulae instead:1x1x1=1. Or 1÷1÷1=1 or 1+(-1)+1=1or 1-1-(-1).
@theshield827
@theshield827 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anom8177 1 =the father is fully God 1=the holy spirit is fully God 1= the son is fully God The father is not the son The son is not the spirit They are different, so your idea 1×1×1 does not work here. Who died on the cross according to your belief : the son so the son is mortal not immortal As you know God is immortal. Jesus says I go to my father and your father to my God and your God so he has a God.There is no trinity in the bible. Where did you get it form?So read your book first before claimin that people are confused. It is what you believe in that is confusing and contradictory.
@theshield827
@theshield827 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anom8177 1 =the father is fully God 1=the holy spirit is fully God 1= the son is fully God The father is not the son The son is not the spirit They are different, so your idea 1×1×1 does not work here. Who died on the cross according to your belief : the son so the son is mortal not immortal As you know God is immortal. Jesus says I go to my father and your father to my God and your God so he has a God.There is no trinity in the bible. Where did you get it form?So read your book first before claimin that people are confused. It is what you believe in that is confusing and contradictory.
@snowcrow1178
@snowcrow1178 3 жыл бұрын
@@maulinux1 Is Jesus 100% God and 100% Human ?
@khalilbonjol8711
@khalilbonjol8711 3 жыл бұрын
This series of videos shows the many problems ,errors ,and differences among the Quran. I am wondering when we can find the real original Quran and whether this 'original' will be radically different from the ones found so far.
@jahangiralam8184
@jahangiralam8184 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, I am amazed by your wonderful lecture on the lacking of the Quran. I have always considered this book as a godly book, as taught by my parents and teachers. But various youtube discussions made by traditional belief thin. and I started doubting. But still I could not arrive at a decision. I was scared to read the original religious books which were too lengthy and difficult to understand. And I could not find the solution. In such a situation, a friend of mine gave me a book on Quran, well, its title was, Knowledge of Quran for the non-Muslims". It was a very small book, hardly 125 page or so and published by the Amazon.com. It was written by an Indian author, and the language used was extremely suitable for me. From the very beginning, the author told against religions, and in favor of atheism. Then he narrated why religions were created by the money hungry people. And it narrated various ways for doing the same. Then, it narrated those in case of Muslim's religion. And everything including why regimental type of five times prayer was introduced, how it in fact targeted to conquire the world in the name of a religion etc. turned crystal clear to me. The book helped me to understand numerous unsolved and difficultly answered questions about the Quran. Now when you say, the names of Allah was later added, many lines were erased and changed etc., I understand the reasons, because I now understand there was nothing miraculous or godly, but were the creations of the shrewd selfish-minded people. Thank you Sir, for your great mission. I wish your success. Thank you.
@faith_alone
@faith_alone 3 жыл бұрын
I think you've thrown out the baby with the bathwater. The fact that we're here means something miraculous and supernatural took place. Islam is not the true religion however
@steveymcneckbeard
@steveymcneckbeard 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are a bit like pulling teeth with Jay. Every time Al Fadi actually mentions something interesting, Jay is like ... "Hold on to that, we'll come to that later".
@glory.to_jesus
@glory.to_jesus 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could understand everything said in the video much better than I do. So that I could explain this information to Russian speaking muslims.
@lukkash
@lukkash Жыл бұрын
➡️ So HOW did they come to the “final” and actual version of the Quran? What’s a source of it? Does it mean that it came up in later centuries just like that and there is no one source of surahs?
@user-ex9pc9ps8x
@user-ex9pc9ps8x 4 ай бұрын
Supported: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
@mreza84
@mreza84 Жыл бұрын
Ex-Muslims from Iran and I am proud 👍❤️✌️🌎✌️
@saidmohammed7597
@saidmohammed7597 3 жыл бұрын
Preaching Ezekiel prophecies 38
@GedaliahAR
@GedaliahAR 6 жыл бұрын
The many problems of the Quran. where do you start......
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
LOLOL! Yes, Sayed, you have an advanced case of Islamic Tourette's Syndome; we know that. That's the best you've got? Because your god commands you to elevate your speech when you address Christians & Jews (the people of the Book, as your dimwit god refers to us).
@GedaliahAR
@GedaliahAR 6 жыл бұрын
sayedf11 You do Know the OT scripture were fulfilled by our Lord...they are NO longer adhered too Thanks for your input though..I feel your pain ..the lies of the Quran are unravelling like a wolly jumper.... Thank you also for the compliment..I am a humble graciuos LADY my Lords grace goes before me
@madaale1000
@madaale1000 6 жыл бұрын
Apple Goo learn your biblical history of the Bible first then we can talk about incest the way you born in the Bible Lol 😁😁😁 12 year old Mary’s marriage with 90 year old Joseph the Carpenter Bible sanctions pre-pubescent marriages (child marriage) Age of Consent in European & American History Isaac’s wife was Rebecca, mother of Jacob, and Esua. According to calculations made by Rabbi Solomon Itzhaki (A.K.A. Rashi a well-known respected Jewish Scholar), Rebecca was three years old when she married Isaac. 1. Rashi’s commentary on Genesis 25:20 says: forty years old: For when Abraham came from Mount Moriah, he was informed that Rebecca had been born. Isaac was then thirty-seven years old, for at that time Sarah
@fabians5573
@fabians5573 6 жыл бұрын
amadeeyo brother you are in crack.
@GedaliahAR
@GedaliahAR 6 жыл бұрын
sayedf11 Paul now that is strange ?? It was actually Jeremiah One of theProphets from the Old testament as I said I feel your pain because your false prophet never ever spoke of Jeremiah because he told you "the god" or "No god" as he is also known as Only give a book to Moses he forgot about all the other rpohets that he came and spoke with.. Now what was it that our LORD YHVH told Jeremiah ?.. That one day he himself would come to Jerusalem and make a NEW Blood covenant with his people.. Jeremiah 31: 1 At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people. 2 Thus saith the LORD, The people which were left of the sword found grace in the wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest. 3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, The YHVH of hosts is his name:"The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed
@twahirabasi9765
@twahirabasi9765 5 жыл бұрын
Muslims have a tradition to memorize the entire qur'an since Muhammad times, this is a documented fact, so whether it is in a written form or not generations after generations of muslims accross centuries have been reciting it from memory, they don't depend on those manuscripts to authenticate the qur'an, you could easily summon people from any generation and they will recite you the qur'an. had there been any change in the qur'an definitely people who memorize the qur'an would have easily pointed out the differences and there would be a lot of documented debates of the issue, however this has not been the case. Nobody knows whose manuscript that one was in the first place.
@Morgow1
@Morgow1 6 жыл бұрын
This channel is underrated.
@nawzays5648
@nawzays5648 6 жыл бұрын
No, this channel is corrupted!
@SatriaNoer
@SatriaNoer 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that Dr. Jay Smith will have another public discussion with Dr. Shabir Ally regarding their two very opposing views on the Quran. Will that is a possibility?
@anthonyaguirre1498
@anthonyaguirre1498 Жыл бұрын
And where can you find the publich material regarding the manuscripts?
@khalilbonjol8711
@khalilbonjol8711 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos on the Quran,Mecca,etc keep popping up even after 2 to 3 years of premiere. I wonder whether you have come to some conclusion or do we have to wait till Doomsday ?
@shazminbahari32
@shazminbahari32 4 жыл бұрын
The Samarkand manuscripts is not the earliest and the oldest. It is the Birmingham manuscripts who recently confirm by the British Authority in 2016.
@stackemup223
@stackemup223 2 жыл бұрын
Oldest COMPLETE Quran
@johnzuma4688
@johnzuma4688 2 жыл бұрын
The Birmingham folios are not a complete quran and only consist of pre-islamic stories, so there is no proof that they actually came from Mohammed at all.
@shazminbahari32
@shazminbahari32 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnzuma4688 LOL. SHOW ME LINK TO PROVE YOUR CLAIM
@stackemup223
@stackemup223 2 жыл бұрын
@@shazminbahari32 all you gotta do is type Birmingham Quran manuscript
@johnzuma4688
@johnzuma4688 2 жыл бұрын
@@shazminbahari32 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Quran_manuscript I can understand why you still believe in Islam.
@midizengm
@midizengm 4 жыл бұрын
Quran Topkapi should be published without any restrictions into free access as the fullest and earliest known Quran. It there some digital copy or translation?
@parijal3771
@parijal3771 3 жыл бұрын
Can you hide truth by forgeries??? Never ever. Because Quran is the holy book which prove itself. It doesn't require any support that's reason most people from Europe America getting true guidance directly from Allah. True religion is Islam.
@imexbd
@imexbd 4 жыл бұрын
Islam is not an offshoot from Christianity but a second and great reform of Abrahamic monotheism. Abraham believed in the one God and was the first to express this publicly. He announced it and confirmed it for his successors, becoming the "father" of all believers. Subsequently this tradition suffered deviations
@agnettarodricks1301
@agnettarodricks1301 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for your research n sharing it with us, now I hope many Muslims learn the truth n abandon this so called Quran 👌👍🙏❤️
@agnettarodricks1301
@agnettarodricks1301 3 жыл бұрын
Masoor Ahmed I don’t need to watch anything you say because I can’t follow your Quran simply because Mohammed was a big time sinner n he’s dead n buried while my Jesus is alive... whatever is written in the Bible has come true n your Quran is copy paste from different religions plus there a holes in the Narratives... it’s your choice to believe in the truth or be deceived.. 🙏
@lukkash
@lukkash Жыл бұрын
🔹✝️ if we applied the same reasoning: there are scholars (atheists mostly) who way that Moses was just a fictional character, and the scriptures of the Torah were written by men. Sam Harris (a well known anti-theist) says that even a mediocre writer could compile sth like the book of Genesis. So I’d like you to apply all your analytical methods to the Bible as well. Another well known scholar like Bart EHRMAN says the Gospels were written by someone but assigning authorship to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John is groundless and unreasonable. The authorship was only assigned to them but there are no factual proofs. In other words, people believed in some scriptures and started treating them like inspired by God what’s exactly how the Quran is perceived by Muslims.
@renee6989
@renee6989 6 жыл бұрын
I’d love to know why they don’t have complete manuscripts in the 8th century. We have complete bibles in this century (and centuries before) so there’s really no excuse. The Muslims conquered lands so quickly. You’d think if Islam was significant to the conquerers we’d see copies and copies in all these different lands in the early years!! This is not the case. Makes me think back to Robert Spencer’s book “did Muhammad exist” on the idea that Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran are concepts that came to be or evolved over time.
@adnanshabbir9992
@adnanshabbir9992 2 жыл бұрын
Really you guys are good comedians and actors. It made me laugh everytime I saw your videos :-P
@CHSCRTE
@CHSCRTE 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the turkish scholars are going to tell exactly n completely what they discover on the "original" scripts.
@locksmithlocksmith7941
@locksmithlocksmith7941 5 жыл бұрын
lol haters will be hater. they think they can dress a Mediterranean guy with arab clothes and people will be fooled
@CIRAInternational
@CIRAInternational 5 жыл бұрын
Locksmith Locksmith now that you got this stupid observation out of your mind, can you comment on the real problem as addressed in this video?
@locksmithlocksmith7941
@locksmithlocksmith7941 5 жыл бұрын
@@CIRAInternational if this guy is Arab, can you please post a video where he speaks fluent Arabic?
@CIRAInternational
@CIRAInternational 5 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5uZpaqBpcqah6c
@novaljoe4469
@novaljoe4469 4 жыл бұрын
Recommending only his end of the debate to prove he's right,that hardly proves he's right. Judaism and christianity have become materialistic.The Third Temple.The State for Children of Jakob. No knowledge or spirituality.Abraham would have been very dissapointed,had he seen what happened on his name and by his children.
@tash779
@tash779 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve clearly never meet Christians out side of first world countries, don’t confuse religious with spirituality very different. Muslims are religious and are meant to be that way. Follows of the most high are meant to have a relationship with him
@novaljoe4469
@novaljoe4469 3 жыл бұрын
@@tash779 Sorry to disappoint you but I come from a country where having three meals daily is a luxury.My country got robbed by those first class countries you talk about but we are still standing.Your assumptions and my reality are worlds apart.
@user-pz8yw5wo3f
@user-pz8yw5wo3f 8 ай бұрын
The Quran has only been slightly changed
@abdullahk8691
@abdullahk8691 2 жыл бұрын
There are no problems with the Qur'an we have today, unlike the Bible regarding which we do not even know its authors. Obey the First Commandment folks! 😁
@LawrenceofIsrael
@LawrenceofIsrael 2 жыл бұрын
Evidently, there are plenty of problems. Or produce a complete 7th century manuscript, if you are truthful.
@abdullahk8691
@abdullahk8691 2 жыл бұрын
@@LawrenceofIsrael have you ever tried producing a Bible like that? We have, for example, the Birmingham manuscripts, that prove that the Qur'an we have today existed about the time if Muhammad. Do you have such a manuscript? Do you know who wrote the Old Testament? Do you know all of the authors of the New Testament? Do you have a Hebrew early Bible or a Greek early Bible? Jesus obeyed the First Commandment; why don't you?
@LawrenceofIsrael
@LawrenceofIsrael 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdullahk8691 the Birmingham manuscript is a fragment of parts of two Surahs and we have reason to believe it predates the traditional Muhammed. It is, if anything, a problem for Islam. We have thousands of manuscripts yes and millions of church father quotes. And that is only regarding the New Testament. I keep the first commandment 100%.
@abdullahk8691
@abdullahk8691 2 жыл бұрын
@@LawrenceofIsrael the reason you have is in your head. Not in the minds in the custodians of the fragments. Western academics have almost unanimously come to the long realisation that the Qur'an was preserved. Now why do you fanatical storytelling Christians like asking questions but NOT answering any? Who wrote the Old Testament? Why are there unknown writers of the New Testament? Why are some of those known not so known? Why don't you obey the First Commandment like Jesus? Do you call believing in the 3 Gods as worshipping one God? Where in the Bible do you find any mention of 3 Gods? Worship with you head on the ground as Jesus worshipped and how Muslims worship. Have your male children circumcised as Jesus was circumcised. It will help you (scientific fact). Eat meat that has been slaughtered like Jesus ate and us Muslims eat. Worship one God as we Muslims do and Jesus did. Jesus was a Muslim no doubt but most of his followers are too arrogant to follow his way; such a shame!
@LawrenceofIsrael
@LawrenceofIsrael 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdullahk8691 1.I don't like to deflect. 2. I keep the 1st commandment. 3. You didn't adress any of the points I made. 4. Western scholars are absolutely not convinced that the Quran is perfectly preserved. As I clearly outlined, its origins are obscure and so is the entire early muslim history. Think about it: Jesus was, in the eyes of the world, just another wandering preacher. Yet, we have more non christian sources about him, than we have non islamic sources about Muhammed, the supposed ruler of entire Arabia and challenger of Persia and Byzanz. No way around it. Islam is but mythology.
@shreepadbhat9739
@shreepadbhat9739 6 жыл бұрын
Having read Quran twice being challenged TO READ IT TO KNOW IT, I can say, there are many contradicting statements, if the reader bothers to keep track of the statements and its meanings!!
@carlinrose941
@carlinrose941 4 жыл бұрын
@olehomer1988 16:67. And of the fruits of the date-palm, and grapes, whence ye derive strong drink and (also) good nourishment. Lo! therein is indeed a portent for people who have sense. (no encouragement to drink strong drink just saying that people make it from grapes) 4:43 O ye who believe! Draw not near unto prayer when ye are drunken, till ye know that which ye utter, nor when ye are polluted, save when journeying upon the road, till ye have bathed And if ye be ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have touched women, and ye find not water, then go to high clean soil and rub your faces and your hands (therewith). Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving. 5.90 - O ye who believe! Strong drink and games of chance and idols and divining arrows are only an infamy of Satan's handiwork. Leave it aside in order that ye may succeed. Where is it encouraged?
@carlinrose941
@carlinrose941 4 жыл бұрын
@olehomer1988 Hey thanks for the intetrsting point's but as a quick refutation: 16.67 - A sign for people who reason is purely talking about those that ponder on the complexities and wonders of existance, which of the favours of your Lord do you deny. Is it not wonderous that from grapes you can take both such good and such bad? 4.43 - you make a fairly sailent point here but if you think about who this verse is being spoken to (the the pre islamic pagans) these people were already drinking regularly so an instant change in behaviour would have been rather impossible. Instead the message is gradual in its effect first asking people not to attend prayer drunk. The point you make about the afterlife, as far as I understand the Wine in heaven has been described very differntly from the Wine on earth and has no intoxication effect as stated in the Quran so this would be fine right? Abrogation is used to explain situations like the one we have discussed above - it deals legal laws and not theological laws. Oh if you've not already, id reccomend reading the whole of Surah 16 (the Bees) it's actually quite wondrous. Take care.
@ummukulthumrasheed4802
@ummukulthumrasheed4802 5 жыл бұрын
It is you who have a problem. The Holy Quran is over billion per cent perfect. Alhamdulillah.
@ichthys1575
@ichthys1575 4 жыл бұрын
Claiming the perfection is as easy as flipping your hands. The more defensive you are to your claim which has no proof, even whole proof available all against it, indeed it shows the world how much you use your own brain all this time. You prefer to eat all the doctrines just taken for granted without any check and recheck? Shame on you!
@onlineteacher9171
@onlineteacher9171 4 жыл бұрын
They Comparing 2 copies of Quran from DIFFERENT locations....any book of world will hv different text if compare page no 10 to page no 80.......Any Sane person can understand this, they are saying its different text without showing the text, and without telling the Chap no and verse no.........
@quandaledingle9127
@quandaledingle9127 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all convinced. A few different examples, most of it overlaps with another or is incomplete. This is easily explained by the age of the books. The erased and edited parts could be explained by scribal errors (just think if how many mistakes you would make when trying to write a book by hand) The fact remains: the quran was memorized from the beginning. If all the copies would have been lost today then we could still make a quran exactly like the ones we have. This was true for any moment in islamic history
@yolotrue8566
@yolotrue8566 5 жыл бұрын
On the Topic of the Bible, Can someone explain to me the following Why does Genesis 17-20 directly contradicts Genesis 16-12. In 17-20, Ishmael is blessed and fruitful (very positive). However, in 16-12, there are very bad words about Ishmael (very negative). Is god just not sure? Can god make mistakes in literature, or just is moody? Was there a transcription error that persisted like a mutation (for example red hair and blue eyes)???
@LawrenceofIsrael
@LawrenceofIsrael 2 жыл бұрын
Very negative according to who? 16, 12 simply says what he / his descendants are going to be like and it proved to be right.
@johnzuma4688
@johnzuma4688 2 жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with the many changes in the the qurans being discussed.
@hossain2010
@hossain2010 4 жыл бұрын
but they DID NOT clarify what percentage of Quran in Topkapi and Petropolitanus is LOST!!
@shreepadbhat9739
@shreepadbhat9739 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading!! It confirms my understanding that Quran can't be having certain statements as given by Prophet Muhammad because, Muhammad's personal life rad seriously contradictory to those verses in Quran!!! The last thing any holy man, with that level of commanding respect in his community would tell out something that is contradictory to his own life style and conduct in the real world!! E. G. One can not say everything in surrender to the creator only and then IN TOTAL CONTRADICTION own up / appropriate outcome of some of one's own actions in the real world! BUT QURAN GIVES THAT IMPRESSION, AS IF IT WAS ROUTINE FOR THE PROPHET (TO GIVE OUT VERSES ABOUT LIFE AND LIVING IN PRAISE OF ALLAH AND THEN TO DO EXACTLY OPPOSING ACTIONS IN THE REAL WORLD)!
@osuclassof88
@osuclassof88 4 жыл бұрын
Qur'an is preserved orally. It doesn't depend on any manuscript.
@osuclassof88
@osuclassof88 4 жыл бұрын
@olehomer1988 when quran was revealed there was NO text. and we are not excited no matter how many new quran text people found or created, because quran is recited, not printed. it is not like bible where its credibility depend on text and translation (in greek, and later in Roman)
@osuclassof88
@osuclassof88 4 жыл бұрын
@olehomer1988 we need to understand how Quran is preserved and transmitted via recitation and memorization. The recitation can be traced back to prophet Muhammad pbuh. If you cannot recite you poem it doesn't mean others cannot memorize entire Quran. Apart from Quran there is NO scriptures memorized in whole by millions of people of different languages or races. There is none. 1. We don't just randomly accept recitation from any dick and Harry. 2. Quran is recited everyday in prayer. 3. Every year the recitation is checked by hafez (who memorized entire Quran. We even invited hafez from other countries to check. 4. The hafez are given special allowance so that they can focus. 5. Nationally and internationally there are thousands of recitation and memorization competition all year round for kids, boys, girls, and adults. 6. Internationally there are millions of hafez. From Alaska to Russia, from Sweden to South America and Africa.
@osuclassof88
@osuclassof88 4 жыл бұрын
@olehomer1988 up to you to believe what you want. (one cannot force others to believe ) And we never argue about quran text or version. we always refers to the recitation not sanaa text or any text for that matter..
@osuclassof88
@osuclassof88 4 жыл бұрын
@olehomer1988 unlike christian missionaries Muslims dont go round and sell our religion or converts others, because no matter what one cannot convince others to believe in religion.
@osuclassof88
@osuclassof88 4 жыл бұрын
@olehomer1988 thanks to people like you more people come to discover islam and islam is fastest growing
@peacock69mcp
@peacock69mcp 3 жыл бұрын
Why should we need to do a forensic investigation on these cult texts just to know the date of publishing? Why couldn't they write the date they started to write their text!? Wasn't that commonsense for anyone in the world? Perhaps Ayesh knew the best way to feed the Quran to her sheep was to write it all on a palm-leaf. My sheep also loved my Quran so much that it ate it along with some chilly-sauce and asparagus.
@lewisgary6536
@lewisgary6536 3 жыл бұрын
Why was there no dates on the bible
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
I can't HELP IT! I love these proofs of Islam being man made. Now pray Muslims pay attention- in Jesus name AMEN!
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
sayedf11 And you are comparing this action of Jesus to MUHAMMAD? Jesus came first to the Jews, then to the Gentiles. Even the Old Testament tells us Messiah would be preached among the Gentiles under a NEW COVENANT where YHWH SAID, "I will write my words on their HEARTS", and the law will be fullfilled. Muhammad was a rapist, murderer, warlord, thief and a mentally ill person.
@musakhan6244
@musakhan6244 6 жыл бұрын
Warrior Linda Clark I Pay - Attention Brother - Jesus & Mother - Mary. Quran 5- 75 >> They both used to eat food.
@musakhan6244
@musakhan6244 6 жыл бұрын
Raise - Your Head ? You Are not Submission To Alone - Yets ? You Are Same Like Those Muslims Whose Are Worshipping Prophet & his family. Quran 19-30/36 >>Jesus said "Indeed, I am the servant of God He Has given me the Scripture & Made me a prophet. & Indeed - Yehowa Is my Lord & your Lord So worship Him. That is a straight path.
@gherieg.1091
@gherieg.1091 6 жыл бұрын
@@sayedf11 In your Koran, Mohammed made a huge mistake by confusing Mary with Miriam, Moses' sister, hundreds of years apart. You call that word from God. That is obviously false. Mohammed wrote the Koran.
@gherieg.1091
@gherieg.1091 6 жыл бұрын
sayedf11 I already love God because He loved Me first, through the Lord Jesus, His Son, and loving God is also a fruit of the Holy Spirit, Hallelujah ! ... So you think that the test of my sincerity is not rejecting what you believe to be truth ? That is a bit too dogmatic of an approach, isn’t it ? You also accuse me of thinking I’m wiser than God for questioning your Koran ... that is also highly presumptuous and bullying. What I am claiming is that your Koran is NOT from God, so if I question it, I am questioning your Mohammed’s errors. ... now, a document called “Sahih Muslim Book 25 Hadith 5326” tries to explain away the obviously confused error by stating as follows ... “Mughira b. Shu'ba reported: When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read" O sister of Harun" (i. e. Hadrat Maryam) in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them.” That is a significantly different excuse than what you gave me. And it was given by your Mohammed himself. So you both are just trying to cover up a clear error in your book supposedly of God, but actually not ... BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY WORD OF GOD...hallelujah !
@totong98
@totong98 4 жыл бұрын
how about bible? no problems ?please tell the full name of narthew, luke mark and john? i guess they forget to put in they full name.
@MitzvosGolem1
@MitzvosGolem1 6 жыл бұрын
compare original koine Greek NT Papyrus to any of the hundreds of variant versions of Christian Bibles none match each other or the Hebrew Tanakh Bible or Dead sea scrolls... Pot calling kettle black it seems... 1john 5:7-8Trinity,Mark16:9-20,John 8:7:53,8:11 just a few later insertion not found in original early NT. Isaiah 7:14 changed to "Virgin" along with hundreds of other changes errors. There is only one Hebrew Tanakh Bible all match word for word and the Dead sea scrolls.
@agengsatya2915
@agengsatya2915 6 жыл бұрын
that is the misscopy of those manuscripts
@ichthys1575
@ichthys1575 4 жыл бұрын
The blind indeed doesn't know he/she is blind. You must be one of so many blinded by pagan cult coming from the dessert.
@stevenjohnson-yx1fl
@stevenjohnson-yx1fl Жыл бұрын
Muslims would love to be able to read Aramaic so they could learn about the real God not just the fake god la la
@user-fm4he5jh1e
@user-fm4he5jh1e 5 жыл бұрын
This man is a liar and he is not a Saudi and also he is not an Arab ...... and you must to know that The Quran is a words of God and the Islam is the only religion of God
@henktmmr
@henktmmr 4 жыл бұрын
So than reply to the content. You cannot because it is true.
@madaale1000
@madaale1000 6 жыл бұрын
Lol jay Smith did he becomes scholars of the Qur'an even he doesn't know his own bible funny Lol 😁😁😁😁😁😁
@Dave-my3rs
@Dave-my3rs 4 жыл бұрын
Be happy instead, he is exposing the lies to open the eyes of people who dont read quran
@marjuparsada3070
@marjuparsada3070 5 жыл бұрын
Dr.Jerald F.Dirks (The former minister of the United methodist church in the United States. He chose to be Moslem), say that : JESUS WAS NOT GOD. MATTHEW 15 : 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL. JESUS SAID THAT HE IS MESSENGERS OF GOD JUST FOR THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. JESUS DIDN'T SAY THAT HE IS MESSENGERS TO THE PEOPLE OF CHRISTIANS. BUT WHY DO CHRISTIANS CONFESS THAT JESUS IS THE LORD OF CHRISTIANS ??? WHY THE PROPHET OF ISRAEL RECOGNIZED AS GOD BY THE PEOPLE OF CHRISTIANS??? DOES THE BIBLE DECLARE THAT JESUS WAS THE LORD OF CHRISTIANS ??? .
@rc6289
@rc6289 4 жыл бұрын
but to those who are the *called,* both Jews and Greeks (Gentiles), *Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.* 1 Corinthians 1:24 Jesus says: For many are called, but few are chosen." Matthew 22:14
@rc6289
@rc6289 3 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: *God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.* I Timothy 3:16 When the our Eternal God Spoke through His Eternal Word all things were Created. The Eternal Word of God is uncreated, always co-existed, co-eternally, and is Co-Equal to the Father and Holy Spirit. God is Outside of Time, Matter, and Space. Our God comes into Time, Matter, and Space. *The Word is the Messiah,* and the Messiah is Jesus! Christ. *Before Flesh Jesus is Known as the Word.* *In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was *with* God, and _the Word was God._ *He was in the beginning with God.* All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.* John 1:1‭-‬3 Here is the Study Bible Version, read it again. *In the beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He (Christ) was [continually existing] in the beginning [co-eternally] with God. All things were made and came into existence through Him (Christ); and without Him (Christ) not even one thing was made that has come into being.* John 1:1‭-‬3 *He (Christ) was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him.* John 1:10 *And the Word (Christ) became flesh, and lived among us;* and *we [actually] saw His glory, glory as belongs to the [One and] only begotten Son of the Father, [the Son who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, who is] full of grace and truth (absolutely free of deception).* John 1:14 Now, Read Numbers 23 again in your Comment above! And read it all! God is not a man, *that He should lie,* *_Jesus did not Lie, No Deceit Ever Came from his Mouth._* Nor a son of man, *that He should repent.* *_Jesus is the Son of Man! He did not Repent. He never had to Change His Mind. He never had to confess his sins because he knew no sin!_* Has He said, and will He not do it? *Or has He spoken and will He not make it good and fulfill it?* Numbers 23:19 What did Jesus Fulfill and make Good? Yes, He fulfilled the Curse of the Law that we all are under. Jesus had to become 100% like us in order that we have Salvation.
@rc6289
@rc6289 3 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad God is one in Being And Three in *Person* This is Not a Contradiction. If I said, God is one in Being and Three in *Being* Then I Contradicted myself. Then I am fighting with myself. So, you may ask what is a Difference between and Person verse a Being. A being makes what you are being = Being equals whatness. Person makes What you are. Humans are One Being and One Person God is Different, God is One Being and 3 in Person. They are all Equal because they are all God sharing the Same Essence/being. And share the Same Nature God. The Father, Son, And Holy Spirit are All Co-Eternal, Co -existed, co-equal. When Jesus says The Father is Greater than I, his *Status* as the Father is Greater than the Son. Humans are created, we are of the Same Essance. We share the Same Nature. Our Status can also be the same with our Earthly Father, his Status is Greater than His Son. Or we can say, the President is Greater than I. But as a Human We are Equal in Nature and in Essance. Does this make since?
@marjuparsada3070
@marjuparsada3070 5 жыл бұрын
Dr.Jerald F.Dirks (The Former Minister of the United Methodist church in the United States. He chose to be Moslem), say that : JESUS WAS NOT GOD. MATTHEW 15 : 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL. JESUS SAID THAT HE IS MESSENGERS OF GOD JUST FOR THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. JESUS NOT MESSENGERS TO THE PEOPLE OF CHRISTIANS, BUT WHY DO CHRISTIANS CONFESS THAT JESUS IS THE LORD OF CHRISTIANS ??? HOW IS IT GOING. IS THERE JESUS SAID CHRISTIANS IN THE BIBLE ??? THIS IS PROBLEMS. .
@josef1777
@josef1777 6 жыл бұрын
I see a problem in referring to Karl-Heinz Ohlig. On the one hand he is not an expert. I am not sure whether he understands Arabic. He has experts in his team. But he himself is one of the liberal theologians who caused big harm to Christianity. It is clear that with the same methods he used for the destruction of the Bible he can much more easily destroy the qur'an. We don't have to be astonished that a person who denies the historicity of Abraham does the same concerning the prophet of Islam. I understand that he being a denier of the Holy Trinity favors a theory that says that the qur'an has its roots among non-trinitarian "Christians", although none of the non-trinitarian "Christians" ever denied the title "Son of God" for Jesus Christ. Please refer to Dr. Puin but not to Dr. Ohlig. Ohlig is no expert on qur'anic manuscripts.
@danielshellaiah5068
@danielshellaiah5068 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful evidence !! Truth never dies!! Only one truth!
@sulaimanabdulaziz1209
@sulaimanabdulaziz1209 5 жыл бұрын
Almost all of the claims in this series can be refuted by laymen like myself. The claims lack any real critical thinking. This series is catered to people with confirmation bias and not those seeking the truth. The fact that The Quran has been preserved doesn't mean that every single Quran out there is the same. It simply means that the authentic one still exists. Anyone can write a variant version and print a million copies to distribute around the World. It doesn't take a genius to see right through the arguments presented in this episode.
@ASKTruthApologetics
@ASKTruthApologetics 4 жыл бұрын
Sulaiman Abdul Aziz - I’ll consider becoming Muslim if you can refute the claims that you say can be easily refuted. I’ll wait...
@asif982
@asif982 2 жыл бұрын
Moreover whatever quran is there they r mostly anonymous.. don't know who wrote at that time. But what we have is from Abu bakr n some companions..this is then later spreaded by uthman when he went to hafsa and got this quran. Something anonymous vs book from prophets own companion. Offcourse anyone will consider his companions books to be true one.
@imexbd
@imexbd 4 жыл бұрын
What is the point on dying on to a cross, to be then resurrected and as an astonishing afterward to show yourself to just a few and to desappear again from the living world to be in heaven, if you are resurected from dead on earth, you would basically stay to prove the ones that have noticed your death that you have indeed risen from among the dead, by standing right in front of them. Absolute nonsense
@sinoykamei7751
@sinoykamei7751 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus is love of almighty God
@shahrahman4368
@shahrahman4368 Жыл бұрын
Early - Fake claim.
@Romeo_225
@Romeo_225 6 жыл бұрын
My freind can You tell me Different God in Bible and Allah in Qur'an.thx
@fabians5573
@fabians5573 6 жыл бұрын
Good guy God in the bible represented LOVE. god in quran represented HATE. Hope you'll understand!!
@deadlynerd
@deadlynerd 6 жыл бұрын
Fabian S your bible is made by the the false proclaimed devil paul who on his ways to Damascus was hunting down christians. Then the devil appeared in his dream and then he mixed christianity with the allready present religion Mithraism. Thats where christian pagan festivaties come from ( christmas, eastern, etc etc). Jesus pbuh spoke aramaic in his language the name of God is Allaha. Jesus is a roman name. Paul the devil discarded all of Jesus teaching. Christian cant protect themself because you peeps myst love thy neighbours and turn your other cheek if you get slapped on one. The Quran gives muslim right to fight back we are attacked. We can defend our SELF. Lol you cant 🤣 Love is conditional and your bible is full of violant. See this www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/
@fabians5573
@fabians5573 6 жыл бұрын
deadlynerd ok first of all. let me ask you, what is your proof that the one who appeared to Paul in the way to Damascus is devil?? Where is your proof that christmas already exist in Paul's time?? LOL 😂😂😂😂 where is your proof he mixed christianity?? Who makes christianity?? Jesus and Paul never made Christianity!! Jesus was saying Allaha but not your allah swt from mecca!! Allaha of Abraham, Ishak and Jacob was not came from mecca (arab)!! You should remember, since the time of Old Testament there are so many allaha and one of them is your allah swt from mecca!! Our Christian Allaha was Israeli Allaha not arabian allaha (allah swt). Christian was taught to love each other not because we can't protect ourself!! Christian was taught to love others because love represented of God that's why Jesus teach us to love one another!!!! The muslims was told to kill the infidel and to kill the unbeliever not because you are in a fight or in a battle! He is not in a fight when he said that!! Look at your quran when muhammad robbing and killing christian and jews on that time?? Are Christians and jews attacking him?? The answer is NO!! HE ATTACKED CHRISTIANS AND JEWS IN THE PAST IS BECAUSE HE LOVES TO DO THAT!!
@fabians5573
@fabians5573 6 жыл бұрын
deadlynerd and the link that you give to me just smells like a muslim handmade who hates Jesus. Nice try buddy, the fact and reallity will show people!! Who is the evil one, bible or quran!! LOL 😂😂😂
@fabians5573
@fabians5573 6 жыл бұрын
Good guy Brother if you confused about the God in bible and quran just search in youtube the difference between Jesus and muhammad because both of them are represented bible and quran. And please be honest to yourself, who is the one who attacked people in the name of religion?? That answer will give you a vision The God of Bible and the god of quran. Jesus bless you brother 😊😊
@user-hk9gc1pg7s
@user-hk9gc1pg7s 6 жыл бұрын
You are lying! This man is a christian palestnian.
@user-hk9gc1pg7s
@user-hk9gc1pg7s 6 жыл бұрын
Roosje Keizer First, you should ask him to provide his proof. If you were an Arab, you would know that easily by the accent. Jay Smith is a liar. All his missionary is based on lies.
@solomozful
@solomozful 6 жыл бұрын
Roosje Keizer who claims has to prove, you were asked a question... Did he provide any proof to enforce his claim, you believe what you want even if no proof, and then you ask for a proof to di credit what you believed with no proof... Duuuuuh Christians
@user-hk9gc1pg7s
@user-hk9gc1pg7s 6 жыл бұрын
E A Exactly!
@user-hk9gc1pg7s
@user-hk9gc1pg7s 6 жыл бұрын
Roosje Keizer The evidence is not meant for 3= 1 mindset. That's it.
@Aussievingtsun
@Aussievingtsun 6 жыл бұрын
Mohammad was a liar - if he even existed. hadiths 240 years later with Bikari reading 300,000 hadiths. Robert Spencer shows Mohammad was just a title. So there may have been hundreds of Mohammad's all evil doing the evil things in the hadiths. When you analyse the early qurans from 150+ years after Mo's death none of them are the same with 45,000 variants. And Robert Spencer showed early muslim coins with Christian crosses on them and islamic themes, so early muslims probably didn't have the later quran where crosses are bad.
@osuclassof88
@osuclassof88 4 жыл бұрын
Quran has been complete scriptures since revealed to prophet Muhammad pbuh. Your allegations are in vain.
@robertweidner2480
@robertweidner2480 3 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Yamama, in 632, many people who had memorized parts of the quran, which hadn’t been written down, died, taking those parts of the quran with them to the grave. That alone shows it is far from “complete.”
@osuclassof88
@osuclassof88 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertweidner2480 many but not all, in addition to recorded in written forms. now millions memorize Quran,
@kylebrown7709
@kylebrown7709 6 жыл бұрын
your bibles bin changed lots of times if you say the quaran has aswell how can any book be trusted realy when we dont know the original message so basicly what do we follow 2 books claim be from god but both have been changed so what we follow or im saying is in the torah i believe it says the messiah will come is the messiah god or a prophet
@kylebrown7709
@kylebrown7709 6 жыл бұрын
Roosje Keizer if you go bible studies and get copies of bibles from old you see many changes you probs dint know launguage jesus spoke theres many tanslation errors bibles from 500 years ago are not same tiday many things have chsnged do your research jesus says i been sent for the lost sheep of israel who sent him cus acording to you hes god so who sent god he sent his flesh to earth jesus came with a message like al prophets believe in 1 true god what do you call some1 who brings a message a messanger who sent him god hes a messanger from god he says god is not a man nor son of man how is he god he says oh children of usrael my god and your god is 1 follow him hes the straight path the jews are waiting for the messiah the messiah is a prophet not a god jesus prayed to god hes not not god but the messanger of god im not mocking christianity or trying to disprove it im just saying if you study it its very questionable
@LOL_bye
@LOL_bye 6 жыл бұрын
the Bible has basic principles and if something is paraphrased it doesn't change the meaning of general message the message is always the same in the Bible anyway Islam message is go out and kill rape so you have many kids to fight your wars and if you die in the process of attacking and stealing from others you become a martyer just stupid illogical things if
@kylebrown7709
@kylebrown7709 6 жыл бұрын
••Jesus Christ Our Savior•• the quaran dont say anything about rape you obviously not read it infact its your bible that allows sex slaves of children and a woman must marry her rapist it makes me laugh un educated people who havnt read the quaran say these things in bible god orders the israelites to kill midianite woman and kill boys and keep the virgins as sex slaves your bible said that prophet moses raped woman woman seduced there fathers people eat there son you believe god allowed this
@kylebrown7709
@kylebrown7709 6 жыл бұрын
Roosje Keizer i can see you are uneducated on islam war booty is not woman its acting on kindnes its the good like wealth what they have seized in war people who are fighting muslims first allah says give the wealth to the orphans and poor muslims looked after the needy islam does not allow rape anything that harms another is haram rape in christianity is ok acording to bible not only is it ok after you must marry that person i believe that these parts of bible have been added in its why god protected his final message quaran if you believe bibles hasnt been altered and you follow bible you are obviously ok with this
@kylebrown7709
@kylebrown7709 6 жыл бұрын
Roosje Keizer men were allowed to marry dont say note about rape like your bible says slaves had to be taken care of in a time of war so marrying a woman dont make me sick marrying your rapist does explain that about bible explain why god ordered the killing of inocent men woman children and donkeys and virgin girls kept alive and raped oh so this dont turn your stomach rape is haram in islam its not in christianity stop reading google for a quaran verse read the whole quaran and ask god to guide you to straight path
@manauwarsubhani4375
@manauwarsubhani4375 3 жыл бұрын
Truth doesn't depends on writtings
@abdihakimabdi7368
@abdihakimabdi7368 3 жыл бұрын
well it does because if truth was written it would be read and understood
@miguelsureda9762
@miguelsureda9762 5 жыл бұрын
Tsunami of exmuslims on youtube..Coming out of the closet massively
@herosaldicaya6563
@herosaldicaya6563 3 жыл бұрын
your mined is problem!!
@rrraymanf3542
@rrraymanf3542 4 жыл бұрын
9:40 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!! Instead of "and", it's now "so". THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!! IT'S A HUUUUUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!! That means the ENTIRE book is MAN MADE!!! This means God is triune!!!!! What a load of crap, Jay! Can't wait for the next episode where we'll probably see a comma being added where none was there before... لكم دينكم ولي دين
@klasnm_5364
@klasnm_5364 4 жыл бұрын
If even a comma is added the text has been changed, thus invalidating the claim that it is unchanged. It's as easy as that
@rrraymanf3542
@rrraymanf3542 3 жыл бұрын
@Mansoor Ahmad جزاكم الله I have seen many of David Wood's shows and he is so ignorant in Arabic and in Islam even though he claims to have "studied" Islam for many years.. May Allah guide him and all of us.
@theshield827
@theshield827 4 жыл бұрын
Look who is talking about Islam Jay Smith who was destroyed daily in hyde park
@lilhammad9214
@lilhammad9214 4 жыл бұрын
he will get a double punishment. for disbelieving In the one god even Jesus called 'Allaha' in Aramaic and trying to lead others astray
@imexbd
@imexbd 4 жыл бұрын
Jay has always been arrogant...and attacking Islam out of ignorant..Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and their right followers were Muslim by Islamic Standard...
@stormpilot7477
@stormpilot7477 3 жыл бұрын
Look who is talking ?this guy believes bible to be word of God which is written by various pple and has discrepancies among them even.shame on you.
@imexbd
@imexbd 4 жыл бұрын
Christianity in a few words : God sacrificing God to God to save God's creation from God! !!!!!!!!
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 4 жыл бұрын
That's love.
@mcw0261
@mcw0261 4 жыл бұрын
You must agree that God is holy and he cannot have sin in his presence. So he surprised all creation even the angles, by coming down and paying the ransom himself. So that we may experience the righteousness of Abraham by having faith in the Salvation of the Messiah. God came down in Spirit. His word (the vessel of his Glory and Spirit) came down in the flesh. The Quran says the same thing, the majority of Muslims just don't believe the Quran to be true. And understandably so, it has a lot of difficulties and contradictions. But there is some truth in there.
@lilhammad9214
@lilhammad9214 4 жыл бұрын
@@mcw0261 so the yahweh of bible came down into creation so his creation could kill him and he could save his creation. how absurd
@lilhammad9214
@lilhammad9214 4 жыл бұрын
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@mcw0261
@mcw0261 4 жыл бұрын
@@lilhammad9214 Did you know that YHWH means (among other meanings) Behold the Nail/hook behold the Hand? God had always hinted throughout thousands of years of Jewish history and text and prophesies that he would come down and save humanity. The surprise was when and how but never whether He would do it. Imagine if you had a ant colony that you created and that was starting to go haywire. The ants were no longer loving each other and no longer following your rules of the colony. These ants were killing, and lieing, and stealing, and being greedy. So you in your love decide to turn yourself into an ant and remind them why you made the colony and ask them to love each other. In all your power, you let them do their worst to you so that they understand how much you put them first in your heart that perhaps they may believe you. And then when you raise from the dead and return back to your role of overseeing the ant colony from above you continue to help them show them love. That's Jesus. That's our God. That's YHWH.
@musakhan6244
@musakhan6244 6 жыл бұрын
Dear - Fahdi Quran Have - only One Problem. [That is] Your - Fathers ? Quran 3-02/3/4 --- God -There is No deity except Him. The Ever-Living The Sustainer of existence. He Has sent down upon You -The Book [Quran] In truth - Confirming what is in Your Hands. Before - As Guidance for the people He Revealed The Torah & Gospel.
@user-bq3eo1xh2n
@user-bq3eo1xh2n 6 жыл бұрын
In the whole Bible you will find no statement which supports the Trinitarian doctrine. The trinity is not biblical. If the trinity is your problem, then don't be to worried and read the Bible by yourself.
@user-bq3eo1xh2n
@user-bq3eo1xh2n 6 жыл бұрын
What shall this proof, dear Roosje? It doesn't proof anything except if you read things into scripture which aren't there objectively.
@musakhan6244
@musakhan6244 6 жыл бұрын
Μάριος Παππάς I Have Gospel I Believe in Gospel There is only One God In - Gospel. God Bless The People of Gospel The Worshippers of One God Amen. Quran 5-47 -- And let the People of the Gospel judge by what God has revealed therein. Deuteronomy 4:35 and 39 To you it was shown, that you may KNOW, that YHWH is God there is NONE BESIDES HIM.. 39. KNOW therefore THIS day, and consider it in your hearts that YHWH is GOD both in the heavens ABOVE, and on the earth BENEATH, there is NOTHING ELSE. ISAIAH 45:5-6 I AM YHWH AND THERE IS NONE ELSE....THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES ME...I GUARDED YOU THOUGH YOU DID NOT KNOW ME, THAT THEY MAY KNOW FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST ...THERE IS NONE BESIDES ME...I AM YEHOWAH AND THERE IS NONE ELSE! DEUTERONOMY 32:39 SEE NOW THAT I ... I AM HE, AND THERE IS NO GOD WITH ME! ISAIAH 44:24 I AM YEHOWAH WHO MADE EVERYTHING! I STRETCHED OUT THE HEAVENS BY MYSELF....AND I SPREAD OUT THE EARTH OF MY OWN WILL. EXODUS 20:2-3 I AM YEHOWAH YOUR GOD WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT OF EGYPT...YOU SHALL HAVE (NO) OTHER gods UPON MY FACE!
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Λεγιον MMXVIII Father Dont - Asked Your - Ideasss When He Revealed - Gospel To His - Servant.
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You understand Me Very - Well. 😁 Thanks - I Am doing My Best. God Blesss Me Amen.
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