Cities Skylines 2 is great, BUT...

Just my 2 cents on Cities Skylines 2.
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[@JoyBuildsCities]

100% to all of this. CS2 feels empty and has no way for us to add the details to make each creation our own. Thank you for sharing this.

[@TurboLingaLanguages]

Thanks, Joy, for adding your voice to this. Everyone knows how positive you like to be, so when you share concerns, it has carries a lot of meaning.

[@fishwygaming]

It's spot on. I got so tired of placing the same el.school that I quit playing some 3 weeks ago. Might take it up when we know major updated don't mess up mods like it does in CSI

What you're saying is what CS1 players actually feels on its first two years of CS1 release to be honest. You guys have so many unrealistic expectations on a game that only came less than a year ago.

[@Gurra_Gforce]

Yeah, this

[@Meeesa]

Perhaps expectations were too high. This only highlights why a working mod/asset community is so important. Which, CS2 still doesn't have.

[@deloreandorian]

CS1 came out my final semester of middle school, and CS2 came out during my first semester of my masters in urban planning, and my enthusiasm for the new game never arose. I was worried i was out of touch now that I know the real world of city design, but it seems like everyone has been let down by the new game. Its hard to compete with the fully fleshed out 7+ years of DLC and modding the last game has, but you are so right in that it doesnt meet similar benchmarks in level of detail, quality, or design to the original base game. I never bought CS2 and it just shows that when you cant even include bike lanes in your base game, its a red flag/telling mark that your game is lacking a lot of core oomph that makes it the series we loved.

[@Lucpol1986]

No doubt all those ‘critical’ additions will be via ‘well priced’ DLC’s down the road…

[@Thunk00]

I was largely supportive of CO for the first two months after release because it seemed like many critics' expectations had been set unrealistically high and CO had a good track record of supporting and improving the original Cities: Skylines for a long time. However, I think that at this point the fact that it's February and they STILL are holding back modding tools can't be described as anything but egregious. And the snail's pace of bug fixes since release for a team of their size is equally egregious. Seems inexplicable that the whole office took almost a month-long vacation for their winter holidays and now they've "reduced the cadence" of updates when there's still such a huge amount of work to do.

[@Erestor95]

You are right with all the things! One thing i really love, is the upgrading to the service buildings, like more garages, or like police station upgrading with the helipad and stuff like that. And i really miss the bikes in the game! So simple things from the first game

[@TyreeC]

Completely agree, I am enjoying CS2 right now, but what I am missing is modding, I don't go crazy, but in CS1 I needed variations of services, not every village needs such a big post office. Take the Welfare Office in CS2, its huge, I live in a city, I would expect a smaller compact building that fits with other taller buildings. Cross fingers CO can get the modding support in soon.

[@EternalBeatbox]

I don't play the game myself (my 3 yr old computers hardware is "outdated" sadly) however CS1 and 2 are by far my most enjoyed content on YT, and your videos in particular are my favorite i appreciate your consistency, as well as your commentary, keep up the good work. 👍🏽

[@TheogeoYT]

Hello, teammaster! I have a useful and realistic life hack: if you make a tunnel from a pedestrian path and turn off the snapping, you can connect metro stations with a tunnel. MAYBE THIS MAYOR WILL FINALLY DO IT! 

[@thelost10mm41]

I'm new to the city games, but after getting this, I stumbled on your videos, binged the whole Bixton series in 2 days and I learned a LOT so thank you! would love to see some challenge runs, maybe some ped focused builds, or tram cities, things that might be out of your norm, so to say! (maybe a hometown build or some city remakes?) Greetings from Nova Scotia!!🍁keep up the great work!

[@holker_]

Paradox used to be one of the better game publishers out there, but in the last few years management has gone off a cliff. They're quickly reaching EA levels of mismanagement. Every game they've released in the last 3 years or so has been a complete dumpster fire. Unfortunately I don't have high hopes that they'll allow CO to do what needs to be done to make this game great. At this point they're basically forcing CO to focus entirely on DLC, which is likely why they just announced that they would no longer be releasing bug patches outside of the updates that come with DLC. The fact that they even have the audacity to start releasing DLC for a game in this state is quite telling.

[@Myne1001]

Lack of map editor is whats doing it for me. The pre-existing maps are so-so. Would love to make my own (without needing to use third party tools)

[@jsb06g]

We need that regions pack because all the cities just look the same and the maps are not so good.

[@stocker_21]

Finally another video to watch 😍❤️

[@randallcromer66]

I believe Colossal Order really made the biggest mistake that any game developer can make, they release a game that wasn't fully ready to be released. Plus charging people full price for a product that is still in it's beta stage of development. They betrayed the trust and loyalty of their fans because of pure greed. Cities Skylines 2 still could turn out to be a great game but because of the betrayal that Colossal Order did I don't know if anyone will be willing to giving them or the game a second chance. I know that I will never give them another chance to betray my trust.

[@ShelleySkylines]

I’ve started to see sims using the parks actually! I caught some on the soccer field doing sit ups 😂 it was most exciting!

[@EnigmaRift]

I agree with you that the game does not feel alive as there is very little animation on assets and services as well as entertainment

[@laurengabriel3724]

I love this game. It is of course unfinished and it should not have been released. But there are diminishing returns at this point until mods and assets are available. So, I’m not playing much until those are released. But when they are I will be back to peak playing time. There is a great game here, it just isn’t finished. It’s a shame and it was wrong to release it in this state, but all the same I am enjoying it in a limited way

[@nomadkeller8612]

I played 250 hours in the first 8 weeks......I haven't played since Dec 18. I refuse to play this non-sensical game until the bugs are fixed.....the engine makes no sense.....seems like mass transit and cargo have NO IMPACT on the game at all.

[@marekkos3513]

a good city builder should always be challenging and fun to play.CS2 is not. Ps.If you dont want any challenging , and just build , and paint , then just turn on unlimited money , thats it.

[@MoveTheMouse]

Great rundown of where things are at. I wasn't even that big on detailing in CS1 (console player primarily) but it just feels really lacking on that fromt. If you want a city sim, maybe, but the sim doesn't always work. But if you want a builder, I don't think CSII is the answer.

[@ozkan9185]

Dude, I love watching your videos and I don't understand why you are so underrated. Greetings from Turkey.

[@djg9671]

Finally someone with an optimistic view of the games current situation 🙌

[@brandonunity]

Your video is one of the most optimistic reviews of CS2 and I appreciate your viewpoint. I thought I was the only one experiencing that economy glitch. One day I stopped playing and I was just doing my thing trying to keep the budget equal, then after 24 hours after loading it up, some how I'm banking over $100k from concrete alone. It's weird! I also agree with you on the tornadoes (which for some reason if you install an early alert system, it doesn't do anything) and the parks. I also agree that the roads are WAY better in CS2 than in CS1. I just wish that TMPE was also in the vanilla based off of the mod's popularity. Otherwise, I also agree that there were missteps in the launch, but it's not worth complaining without being constructive. I enjoy playing CS2 and I can't wait to see what Paradox does with it. I bet CS1 wasn't perfect at launch and look at it now. I hope we can say the same about its predecessor. Thank you for your insight!

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

I suspect there's tension within the community and what the 2 groups value from CS2 pulls CO in opposite directions. You said you're a painter, ergo the majority of your concerns centres around visual representations, ergo, the mechanic bugs arent an issue for you. The other side would be the simulation players, ergo if the simulation doesnt work the game doesn work. I fall in the later camp. I can excuse graphical inaccuracies as long as the game works, as long as the traffic know how to merge and use all the lanes available to them. As to whether CO knows what needs to be fixed, IDK.... much of how they've handled this mess doesnt bode well for confidence and good will. But ya kinda nailed it when you speculated CO left a lot out of the game so they could sell it back to us via DLCs. Cool? Id argue no.

[@nclas]

Sadly we wont have a good game until they add the park, night life, promenade and decorative assets things even more policies. And also that lvl system to park, industries thing..that added so much to CS1. IMO the game leaks content! (And man... I miss Plaza and Promenades so much, that was my fav dlc joined up with Night Life!) I might go back to CS1, but just by remebering the way roads work there makes me to not go back. The best part of CS2 was the road system.

[@boki1693]

Well, we will learn very soon if Paradox learned their lesson. Prison architect 2 drops next month.

[@christopherr.561]

Game was not ready, not even close, they knew it, they released it and they took everyone s money. They were just fine charging a huge price for a very substandard project. Then they proceed to gaslight the community for being upset about it. Everyone relax, they are excited to bring you some paid DLC for very basic features they didn’t have in the base game. Lost all respect for CO. Sure Paradox is also part of the problem but I had no respect for them to lose.

[@cpypcy]

Yeah detailing, parks and all the immersion breaking teleportation bugs me a lot too. 100M income is a bug and it's known bug that was also in CS1 but it was fixed quickly, but not here.

[@hypnobear7908]

Thanks for the video! When I heard for 10th time that certain feature was in CS1 and not in CS2. I`ve realised that I`ve made a good decision not buying it. I`ll stick to CS1 with dirt paths, thank you very much.

[@Thunk00]

A lot of the complaints about lack of detailing potential can be solved with Thunderstore mods, but this game isn't really going to come into its own until custom assets start getting released.

[@SaltyRad]

It’s not bad, the land value overhaul mod made it enjoyable for me. Does need a lot of work though

[@mrgooglethegreat]

Man ....Bro .....i thought u quit like everyone else. Thanks for hanging in there for us console users who are denied a chance to play and play vicariously thru you!!! 😁 I think this game will be fixed by summer ....im not worried either and cant wait to play.

[@D..S..]

It will not be fixed by summer lol

[@mrgooglethegreat]

@@D..S.. do u feel it will be fixed at all??

[@ASENEBS281294]

It must be nice to live completely removed from reality.

[@mrgooglethegreat]

@@ASENEBS281294 I think it'll be treated like cyberpunk or no man's sky

[@ASENEBS281294]

Let's hope it goes well@@mrgooglethegreat

[@hopefwam]

Simulation is almost topping out for me at 250k population with a ryzen 5900x. I notice that it hogs down cpu core 0,1,2,3,4 and when it does it makes the simulation really sluggish. My solution is to remove those cores from the cpu affinity and things go back to normal si speed. They have work to do on usage of high core count cpus.

[@chefnerd]

You know that "NextGen" and "30FPS" don't quite fit, right?

[@gano101]

People who feel ripped off are under no obligation to be “conservative” and you’re jumping onto the bandwagon of calling earnest but negative responders as “toxic” it’s a passive aggressive way of shaming and ultimately silencing part of the community you claim to care about 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@user-ci7tv6bo7i]

do you know when cs2 is coming to ps5?

[@MaasLanderNLD]

srry but i got to comment on one thing you said, if CO would listen to us than it would be a different story, you said we should help out CO, a lot of us are trying harder to help CO than in cs1, but CO doesnt listen, doesnt talk to the big players or people like me, who have thousands of hours in cs1 and almost a thousand in to cs2, you cant say we need to help them, even biffa made a youtube video stating CO isnt using the feedback or listening at all or even trying to talk about it. when a company isnt listing to their devoted fans base the real lovers of this game, then whats the point of repeating everything over and over again just to be ignore, that's why people are upset including me, i payed the full price on the ultimate edition and i feel robbed and that is an understatement, most off us even bought new hardware or in my case a nasa pc to play cs2, just to find out that after 10min into you game, game breaking bugs appear, game breaking simulations appear. to be fair i supported CO for over a decade, but like biffa and so many other big players am done with cs 2 and CO if they dont make changes fast.

[@tmg7476]

I'm a sandbox player so don't delve into the economy. I like to make pretty neighborhoods. I didn't expect all the assets I would want -- assets would begin to fill the workshop. But I did expect it to be better modded, to incorporate the best mods from the workshop into the base game. In CS, a lot of the assets are just eye candy. So I was hoping that we would see better asset integration into the game play -- kids playing in the backyard of a user created house. People using the parks. But as you point out, assets don't seem to be well thought out. Mandatory buildings are too big and upgrades rigid. Upgrading isn't freeform. It's not what I expected. I think that CO built the game that they wanted CS to be originally, not what CS ended up being through the workshop. I'm not interested in roaming dogs nor in learning citizens' thoughts. Performance was ok, but if I had the detailed assets I use in CS, I don't believe that it would. I have put CS2 on the shelf and have pretty much stopped watching videos on it. I don't know when/if I will return to it -- they are working on 'bugs' while I feel they need to also be addressing the philosophy behind the game.

[@toinymtb7758]

What happened to Anacadianabroad?

[@CrossriderBankai23]

I mean, Cities Skylines 2 had his last chance to do the right thing, the game is already released like that, I don't believe it will change for better in a large scale, it happened to Cities Skylines 1, we been waiting for the game to get some love it deserves and it never happened, but they said it couldn't be possible on CS1, so they make Cities Skylines 2 and none of the things went to the game, they literally deceived us all, I'm going to point fingers, someone made that happen, the game is actually dead, maps are so empty, it's just like CS1, we thought we could finally have some amazing beautiful maps this time, but we're just getting the same maps like CS1, when I thought about the sequel I wished they could make a whole new game different from the last one, improving all the mistakes and limitations of CS1, and we got a clone of the first one, the public services are all the same, there's no variety, parks are ugly asf, they managed to do it wrong and worse this time, and it's 2023-2024, there's no bicycle lanes, all these massive train station was all to show up that the game can have bigger stations and depots, I don't really understand why there's no small version, why we can't make a realistic small city, and make like a history, the game is stuck in modern days forever, you can't be creative like that, everything is against you, and this is something the company wanted to do, they didn't care at all, I still remember in the early days before release they was laughing, the game was already in a horrible state and they laughed at us, we asking if it was all beta and if in the release it could all be fixed, they made us believe it, that the beta version had nothing to do with the released version, and we got the same game, full of bugs, and they keep laughing in these diaries videos, acting like everything is okay, nothing went wrong, it's like they knew, and wanted to laugh about all the people who pre order the game way back, and couldn't really get refund in time, because they knew the game reviews could get butchered to wazo, and now they're going play like "everything is going to be fine, here some DLCs, are you happy now, bye"

[@Charles_Anthony]

I agree with basically everything you said, but I still think CS is better because it came with no promises and yet they did a good job making it a decent game while allowing the community (us) to make it truly a great game. CS2 has limited mod support and that's why it will fail. It literally is worse than CS.

[@ASENEBS281294]

Isn't life wonderful with quota female game developers?

[@Lueluekopter]

CO said in the forums, the missing animations (fire fighters etc) are because the cim models were delayed and they didn't have time to do the animations. Which is also why bikes are missing. But they consider that a minor problem, so it won't be addressed before the editor and mod support, console release and other bug fixes. I disagree with you when it comes to communication, it's a mess. The Word of the Weeks seem tone-deaf ("this game might not be for you"), number 12 didn't have any dev answers all week. First, they thought about stopping them all together, then they did, until Paradox stepped in... Whenever I catch a live stream on KZbin, it feels like they're starting a new city every time, because the game still runs well. The biggest city I've seen was maybe 20k.

[@SaptarsiDas]

Someone needs to create a playlist

[@Maver1ck06]

Already did that😎 kzbin.info/aero/PLDjGD7Q7J7--dgLj1fJC4WMg3LCRq1qyW&si=Y9td-O1DgXDpAhEz

[@pecanswan]

This game is so unfinished that its baffling to me. Its a shame. I have a feeling they didn't include some things because they were worried about performance

[@BigBenGermany1983]

I have 43 points that I really dislike! I'll name one of them: I have a city with around 183k inhabitants, a public transport network with over 70k users. The streets are relatively free of traffic jams. I am deleting the entire public transport network and all lines. It simply has zero impact on traffic on the roads?! WTF!!!

[@dj-ajfraser8319]

unfortunately I have to say I agree with you on CS2, though I have a belter of a PC I find the game simulation and performance needs a lot of improvement.

[@jonblair5470]

Can’t you access props and surface textures in dev mode? Manicured grass is in dev mode too, you add surface texture like district zones, farms, or garbage.

[@cynic5581]

That grid building all the roads in a city THAN populating and zoning it is so unnatural. Ends up making a city look very generic. Imagine seeing a real city built this way? Bad part is the game doesn’t force you to do it but rewards you if you do. So might as well force you. A lot of the issue is money doesn’t have much value, you get so rich that building an entire (sub)city can be built like a small prefab residential neighborhood.

[@w00dyblack]

I'm content with it. Obviously looking forward to the upcoming improvements. But even in its current state I'm enjoying the game

[@guy_autordie]

On my computer (laptop), i7-7700, GTX1070 8GB, 64GB, my cities are playable until I pass 90k pop. It's ok+ until 75k.

[@JWegers]

all valid issues i cant really disagree with. And i think a lot of issues players (not only yours) have since launch would have been somehow be fixed one way or another by now, if the modding platform and asset uploader were working in the first month after launch. The modders have done a fantastic jobs until now releasing on other platforms though. Regarding creating custom parks, i see that it should probably possible to create custom park areas with the Dev tool, like there are hangaround and relaxation areas etc you can draw. So i dont think they held back on this in the vanilla game because they want to hold it back for a park DLC (of course that one will come at some point), they just ran out of time to implement in the base game, just like with so many other features. more animations for cims like hearse drivers, i think Mariina just mentioned somewhere that more animations are definately planned. considering the performance issues they had or still have, i think its reasonable to cut hold back on this for the time being.

[@moizesbrando]

these road tools are atrocious

[@alisacrowder4833]

i saw your cities skylines tutorial and quincy harbor had skyscrapers are you going to do that on the channel.

[@JC_Cali]

How you can be forgiving of the lack & diversity & dullness of the assets, the performance issues, and seemingly ok with a game you admit was rushed and unfinished is beyond me. These companies broke our trust and being willing to give them money and call it a good game is reinforcing their bad, corporate, greedy behavior. Sucks how much we've been abused to accept the state of things as they are.

[@Da__goat]

Truly is the average Paradox game experience. Saw this coming after Imperator and Victoria 3. I’ll never buy this game because there’s no Steam workshop support because the molders step in to fix the bugs and make the game better when Paradox just can’t be bothered.

[@MewK_]

Regarding the negativity I totally disagree with you. The way they communicate, the fact they don't say "Sorry, we messed up and we will fix it!" is just insulting. What they say is is "Our game is great, there just a few bug don't worry". That's delusional! I think that's the reason for the negativity.

[@MrMpa31]

I think the problem is, they hit their targets. This says, their vision of what the game is/will be, is far, far less ambitious than what we want.

[@MewK_]

You're probably right, especially their financial targets. I sure hope a broken mess wasn't their technical target 😅@@MrMpa31

[@1DontNoclip]

In some ways cs2 graphics are much better, other times its confusingly much worse

[@s.w.a.t.3057]

CS2 caused my computer to blue screen and crash hard. The graphics all changed, and lagging was at times every few seconds and this would last for several minutes before crashing again. One crash was so bad my computer needed a factory reset. I bought a brand new MSI Raider laptop just to play this game and it's been nothing but hell. Not sure if it ruined my new laptop but all seems different to me since this started.

[@BrothaMan831]

Legitimate Software rarely ruins your pc. It’s definitely a problem you created. Whether intentionally or unintentionally. (FYI I’m not saying it’s your fault, you could be using underpowered hardware that is stressing your system into overheating and thus bluescreening or you don’t have your firmware for your other components update properly etc.)

[@s.w.a.t.3057]

@@BrothaMan831 I don't make enough to ruin a $1500 laptop on purpose. All I did was dl steam, cities skylines 2, KZbin, chrome. I also made sure that this comp met all the specs (and it does). Not sure what I could have done.

[@lilfurbal]

This game has also always had a chronic crashing issue on my new from last year desktop. Either the game was crash to the desktop or sometimes it'd blue screen the computer. CO support was a joke, I submit a support ticket the way they required (by making a thread on their forums). Didn't get a single response to it, responded back to make sure it was even seen and ask for more support. A mod deleted that message saying to not bump threads, then continued to fail to acknowledge the thread was even seen. A couple months go by and still no one has responded to the support ticket. One of their patch notes made note that they have added improved crash log reports so then I updated my ticket again asking how we could take advantage of the new better logging info and...... nothing. They won't tell me what they want, so I can't help them fix the issue. They're not even acknowledging it is an issue, guess it's all in my head then. Who knows. I've never had a support ticket with a company just go completely ignored before but CO has showed how it's done.

[@BrothaMan831]

@@s.w.a.t.3057 laptops are not great for gaming in my opinion. It’s hard to ventilate heat in something so small and compact.

[@BrothaMan831]

@@lilfurbal “new from last year” really doesn’t mean anything at all. What are your specs? Does your case have enough ventilation, how’s your cooling? Are all your drivers up to date?

[@prichardgs]

Agreed

[@lkp7481]

No people in the parks or fields is so odd. Why is this mechanic missing when it was in CS1? This is a big irk for me among other things.

[@ExiaLennelluc]

the game should have been delayed another yr but paradox needed a win for the quarter so what better win than CS:2

[@homer1268]

Thundermod really made CS2 better, for me at least

[@brianmartin6016]

CO has been a company that has gone from being stellar to an almost utter failure overnight. I don't know what happened? Was it a CEO or board change? Probably. Sorry but they need to be more player and customer oriented. Take fore example...oh let's say Larian Studios as an example of good customer service and listening to its player base. This IS a constructive criticism. Grow thicker skin and do what's right! Listen to the customer base. Thank you for your review Timeister! I agree on nearly every point. Good and bad. So much to fix...for FREE and not in DLC please!

[@s25268847]

The fire truck also moves like a turtle. You just don't get the vibe.

[@chrisw443]

As someone who cant justify thousands to play a game, since they nuked mac compatibility, which is infuriating since Ive given them hundereds to play cities 1 over the years. The only thing I have is a ps4. So I could get a steam deck to play this game, but it wont run on it. So I may never be able to play this game. In fact half of the original cs1 audience may also never play it since it cant run on anything.

[@BizzLeVrai]

cities skyline 2 is great for heating my room. my cpu cry for help.

[@kellergie2602]

When you mention parks not having any cims and firetrucks sitting in front of the house until the fire magically gets put out... unfortunately I think we're in an era of cutting corners in games. If you compare old Sims games to Sims 4 it's the same thing. Prettier graphics but animations are cut out, there's no substance so many games are just painters now. It's sad, there's just not as much love and passion put into games (in general, I am aware "not every game/dev") as there used to be imo. It's way more about money and speed now

[@Avyez]

You have to be honest with everyone and stop claiming "it's great, but...", as it's just a heap of trash. The game is unfinished, empty, broken and sometimes utterly unplayable. If it were only a couple of bugs which needed addressing, then this title might still have some life in it. However, the sad truth is that even core simulation mechanics simply don't work (e.g. traffic AI or the economy in general), while several other aspects were clearly an afterthought (e.g. ground and road textures). After more than 3 months of fixing and updates, this game is just not enjoyable and it's hard to see how this dead man's ship could still be turned around. Even content creators have to acknowledge that Paradox Interactive destroyed one of the supporting pillars of both parties' revenue model. The harsh truth is that this game is dead and probably won't be resurrected anymore. We'll just have to wait for another company to take over and do it right, just as we did in 2013 after EA made a mess of Simcity.

[@tendaishechidakwa]

The game is certainly not great. It is an underwhelming experience which failed to deliver on its promises. It actually regressed from CS1 in many areas. Why should we have empty stadiums and schools something we had in a game from ages ago. Why should we lack basic animations the CS1 managed to do? The industries are generic and boring compared to CS1. Farm textures look the same, and mining and oil industries look unrealistic and uninspiring. Indie games such as Workers and Resources managed to do great industries with realistic buildings, vehicles, pipelines etc all of which make the city look real. The simulation which was touted as revolutionary is broken and does not even work as expected. We were told that people actually go to work and families are simulated yet people don't actually go to work and children can even live alone in a low-density house complaining about high rentals all the time. Whilst they did well by incorporating some popular mods, the lack of simple things such as props and quays is baffling and indicates a game that was prematurely released or was held back by Paradox's model of wanting to sell DLCs, so content could have been held back. Performance issues and bugs clearly indicate poor quality testing, because they should have picked up most of this stuff earlier on. Apologies for the rant, but I really expected something better from Colossal Order.

[@coconut9446]

I think people use "toxic" to control and shut people up but it's not going to work. Just because someone is brash isn't an automatic toxic label. CS2 is the problem not glitches and performance, it's just a bad game.

[@SleepyWombat9696]

At a minimum everything in Cities 1 vanilla should be in Cities 2 but it feels like they have only worked on the game for 12 months not 5 years and that they have on done the bare minimum and are relying on modders to finish the game. Just think how fast they have created mods for a game without official mod support while CO are still struggling to make a workable game. LOL. Also if you have a fire chopper why is it dumping water on the building next to the fire....

[@MrMpa31]

Nothing you do in the game matters, there is no challenge, the entire simulation doesn't seem to be real, everything seems to be faked to give the illusion of an actual simulation.

[@knuffel3225]

Has everybody a short memory........ CS1 came out and was as belnd as CS2 ...... not much variety as well..... it started growing with assets and CCP........... wait for this in CS2

[@MrMpa31]

We should expect improvements over the original, not simply accept mediocrity because that's what we got in the past. Did CO not learn anything or advance at all over these many years?

[@alisacrowder4833]

imagine cities skylines 2 on play station 6

[@MrMpa31]

Games need to pass PlayStation's quality assurance to get on their system, Cities isn't going to get the pass any time soon

[@InsuYouTube]

The single most annoying thing abotu this game is.... THE CRANES!!! Omg, i hate the cranes on low desnisty properties. Not realistic AT ALL!!! I get why you need a crane for mid-rise and high rise but for a single story house? IT REASLLY BUGS ME!!!! hahaha

[@TheBEALMusic]

The answer YES! It's bad!

[@Kreemerz]

Are you a YT content creator full time? No work?

[@gamerfunmelvin34k40]

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[@rodrigopimenta2846]

Two words: Yellow screen.😢

[@Joopiejoo]

Definitely a no go for me....

[@nickbellomo3362]

Cs2 is an alfa game that people paid for and yet again the mod community is fixing a game that the devs missed of what people wanted in cs1. It does not make me look forward to a console release.

[@novah3x214]

Huffing copium

[@MrMpa31]

You are completely wrong with your final thoughts. This was a full release, sold at full price. It is not up to the "community" to beta test a game they paid for. Giving CO a pass here is exactly why they felt they could give you this game in the state they did. Gamers need to stop accepting this nonsense.

[@Kreemerz]

It is that bad.

[@knockshinnoch1950]

Great assessment of the game so far. One very important fact that EVERYONE has overlooked- yes the game is "unfinished and could been left in the oven for a few more months BUT- CO did say they game was scheduled to be released EARLIER but was DELAYED due to the PANDEMIC!!!! Imagine how much of a disaster that just might have been!!!!!

[@sakethaekka]

First!

[@1co-op17]

That parks are made for homeless lol

[@mejdlocraftci]

look all Im gonna say is this: the cims have modelled teeth but we dont have dirt paths. I think thats enough said.

[@BizzLeVrai]

I blame diversity politics . we need dev who do meaningful work. and i blame unity engine.

[@lfccat.]

I will not do a push up for every like this comment gets, I’m reliable

[@honeycomblord9384]

Honestly based

[@BigWhoopZH]

Only if you upload proof to your channel

[@lfccat.]

@@BigWhoopZH what kind of proof

[@BigWhoopZH]

@@lfccat. Your workout. Do 50 push ups.

[@lfccat.]

@@BigWhoopZH read the comment. Word for word

[@Jotem_global]

Sorry, but you're full of crap. Your statements are just stroking developers on the head, hoping for what? free dlc in the future? The second part of the game is much more expensive at launch than the first one. What do we get in return? An empty game full of bugs with the hope that they will be fixed in the future? That if I spend even more money, maybe the developers will fix the fundamental problems in the DLC? It's like buying a premium home with your hard-earned money and moving into it. Once on site, it turned out that there was no access road to it because the construction team had not had time to build it. For now, you'll be knee-deep in mud because maybe one day they'll build it. The house has no roof or it is leaking, there are no windows, the stairs are broken in half. You have a home, enjoy it. You can't complain about an unfinished product for the full amount. If they didn't manage to do something and you paid for it in full, you should receive it, not hope that you will get it one day if you wait patiently. Let's finally stop accepting how game publishers treat us - pushing products that are in the alpha or early beta phase. For example, look at older games like RollerCoaster Tycoon, the second part of the game had everything that the first part had. It has been expanded with more and better things that make the game fresh and more enjoyable. No one neutered the second one, hoping that you would buy 15 DLCs that would make the game at least partially as complete as the first one. In direct comparison, CS2 looks the same, if not worse than the first one. Where are the 8 years of expansion of the previous game? Where are the conclusions, the improvement?

[@andrewwalker1327]

The game that everybody else but they should went as the console did

[@AwesometownUSA]

what

[@user-yb2be1lq5m]

???

[@OhOkayThenLazySusan]

The internet can get relly toxic. But there is a tipping point in disappointment where that toxicity is warranted. It is toxic in and of itself to relegate any warranted criticism as toxic. They promised so much in their marketting campaign and delivered on nearly none of it. Then when people were upset, they acted like those people were the problem. Paradox is the new EA. No longer are they concerned with making games that people love and can support. Instead they continuosly release incomplete games and then charge more to fix them through DLC. Companies just need to start charging more for complete games. Video games have been about 60 dollars for 40 years now. Just make complete games and charge more for them instead of parsing out hundreds of dollars through DLC over several years to fix incomplete games.

[@ranmanb.7479]

Cs2 is soooo boring and buggy

[@constantinosbou]

CS2 it's not great, it's AWFUL and BORING

[@gp5313]

CS2 is just a baby. Let it grow

[@yaboiandrew2058]

It’d be cool if game studios started releasing full games

[@gp5313]

@yaboiandrew2058 Back in the old days, developers were fully finishing a game because they couldn't touch it anymore. Now they are relaxed because they can fix whatever problem appears. Personally, I prefer it that way.

[@Charles_Anthony]

@@gp5313: You prefer to pay full price for an unfinished product? Would you buy a car without wheels or a house without a bathroom?

[@gp5313]

@@Charles_Anthony well, I also prefer watching others playing the game

[@ShelleySkylines]

@@Charles_AnthonyI get your point but a video game or software in general is a bit different in my world. It’s all about iterating, getting feedback, iterating. It’s less static than a car. Doesn’t negate the fact that less bugs on release is preferable 😅

[@dalton-at-work]

mods (and dev mode) fix most of the shortcomings about detailing that people are complaining about. i don't get it. just get the mods and stop complaining about something that is fixable. its okay to point out that paradox mods is late and these features should have been built in ( or ARE built in but don't have a UI (dev mode). but pretending it's not fixable is borderline dishonest. [edited to add "dev mode"]

[@ShelleySkylines]

I agree with this! They’re really bridging the gap for me and such great mods from some really talented devs. I’ve been doing some real creative things with them or at least trying to. 😅

[@moizesbrando]

yes let the unpaid modders fix it. dolt

[@dalton-at-work]

@@moizesbrando i didn't say that. let's try not being condecending to people.

[@christopherclement2474]

Okay I’m sorry and don’t want to be rude but all the cities skylines content creators clearly got together and decided to release the same critical videos all at the same time. Cities 2 isn’t that bad. I don’t know why that’s a hot take but it’s not that bad. I have a mid range PC and I have a lot of fun playing the game. Y’all want too much. It’s not cities one and it’s not supposed to be. It’s not perfect and has work to do but it’s not that bad.