Himiway Cruiser vs Radrover - Side by Side Comparison

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CitizenCycle

CitizenCycle

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@dr.bubbles
@dr.bubbles 9 ай бұрын
Very professional and informative review of these bikes ive seen on KZbin. Man deserves all the love. Helped me choose the crusier.
@pnoon43
@pnoon43 4 жыл бұрын
When i bought my Himiway they have a $50 coupon - rear bike rack also for free a tool kit -fenders-lights (Front & Back) a very nice cell phone holder - a metered bike pump (foot pump) - Total price was $1349 and a bigger battery - haven`t gone over 30 miles and still had plenty of juice left - i hardly ever use throttle just pedal assist and like Citizen said the ability to climb hills is effortless and maintains 16-20 mph up hill. I never changed the settings because i am very satisfied by the performance it is set at - maybe down the road but for now its great ! Customer service was very good and that is usually hard to come by. Himiway gets a A + from me :-)
@mikern-bc5124
@mikern-bc5124 4 жыл бұрын
So you have experience with himiway customer service? I have been having a hard time choosing between rad and himi because of horror stories I have read about himi customer service. Any insights would be much appreciated.
@pnoon43
@pnoon43 4 жыл бұрын
Mike when ever i needed a answer with in a couple of hours i had the same gentleman return my call - not like replacing parts but concerns !
@alanwong6540
@alanwong6540 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I bought the Himiway not a step thru though and had to deal with a broken fender bracket during shipment and a loose crank bolt that was giving me a clunking noise which all I had to do was tighten the bolt with a little loctite. Both occassion I contacted their service dept. And they responded very quickly with excellent customer service via email and sent me the replacement bracket immediately. I have to say they were very good with customer service.. judging from my experience
@pnoon43
@pnoon43 4 жыл бұрын
@@alanwong6540 Alan i understand people have a big ? when it comes to customer service - your taking a chance with anyone but as you pleasantly surpise how good they can be - Enjoy your Himiway i sure do :-)
@mikern-bc5124
@mikern-bc5124 4 жыл бұрын
@@alanwong6540 and Pat Thanks for your help. I decided to pull the trigger and placed an order for the himiway. It seems to check all my boxes and I know I would end up getting the Radrover and spending the money to upgrade the motor, controller and battery. With this one I feel like I won't need to.
@biggirlbiking2637
@biggirlbiking2637 4 жыл бұрын
I totally love you for making this video. I saw the Himiway and immediately wondered how it would stack up against the Rad. This was super helpful. Don't sell yourself short.
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 3 жыл бұрын
You wondered if it would stack up against an entry-level POS ebike? Yeah, it's exactly the same. Stay safe.
@jacobstabler9138
@jacobstabler9138 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianbassett4379 LOL!!!
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobstabler9138 I call'em the way I see'em.
@rickbartley9255
@rickbartley9255 4 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are straight forward, down to earth, honest, and kind... you are the neighbor or friend we all need to go to for advice.
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 3 жыл бұрын
Only if you are shooting for the cheapest POS ebike you can buy. Come on Rick! You can do more than the minimum.
@terryrust4973
@terryrust4973 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianbassett4379 - it would be helpful if you'd offer suggestions on good ebikes, if you think these are so terrible. You act like your seat fell off and the seat post violated you ...
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 3 жыл бұрын
@@terryrust4973 Thanks Mr. Rust I will have to bow to your knowledge on being anally violated as I have none... you sure went there fast, I wonder why. Tell me... about your father. It's amazingly easy to own a "good" ebike, even a great ebike. You simply buy the perfect bicycle for how you are going to ride and mount a mid-drive on it. Then you buy a large non-proprietary battery at 1/2 the cost that ebike manufacturers charge for them and et voila! When YT yammerheads promote these cheap low-end ebikes they are doing so for their own benefit, not because the bikes are good in any way other than being inexpensive. The old adage that you get what you pay for has never been more true. Thanks for asking but really... leave your sexual preferences out of it next time Terry. This is what I did... photos.app.goo.gl/ADgC6oyPM2gyrCq27 Stay safe.
@Yowzoe
@Yowzoe 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianbassett4379 Well, helpful perspective and good tips, but you’re kind of an a-hole, you know? You’ve been told that before? Is there a specific channel where someone could pursue the ideas you mentioned? Now try and answer without being a dick, k?
@terryrust4973
@terryrust4973 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianbassett4379 - you sound like you've got some serious issues, maybe you should seek help.
@lorraineng683
@lorraineng683 4 жыл бұрын
My husband got a Rad Rover 5 and I got a Himiway ST. We were really impressed with the quality of Himiway and its a beast. Unfortunately, I had to sell it just after 2 weeks and ordered myself a Rad Runner Plus. The reason I sold my Himiway was the bike was too big and the Step Thru was tight. I'm 5'4" tall so I really struggled to stop and need to tiptoe. I worry all the time when I ride especially when I have to stop at the light or etc. Now after waited for 4 1/2 months, finally got my Rad Runner Plus and I glad I sold my Himiway. Now I enjoy and feel more confident to ride and no worry. I can say from my experience with Himiway - its a really solid bike and good quality. Their customer service was really superb. Its a pity Himiway they dont have many design and choices. Thats my opinion as my husband love his Rad Rover 5.
@ayeartolive5053
@ayeartolive5053 3 жыл бұрын
You just seem like someone I would trust when doing research for an ebike. Extremely knowledgeable and I can tell you’re very passionate about this space. Thanks for this vid!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Best of luck in your search for an ebike!!
@Thegrizchannel
@Thegrizchannel 3 жыл бұрын
The best review/comparison of e-bikes I’ve seen to date. Down to earth and practical. Thank you.
@mrlaw711
@mrlaw711 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review of these two bikes. I watch many high end camera, automotive, tool, and other comparative videos. This is one of the most thorough and best delivered in any category. Great job!
@jdavideast
@jdavideast 3 жыл бұрын
This comparison really helped me with a decision process, I sincerely appreciate you and your efforts!
@bonzocleach2496
@bonzocleach2496 3 жыл бұрын
7:55 Excellent detail on the ride position. The visual comparison is great. I watch Ebike reviews all the time and I don't recall anyone else providing this detail with an actual pic.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 3 жыл бұрын
That's great to know. thank you for the comment. I will try to include this on all my future comparisons.
@crashmaster10
@crashmaster10 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Himiway bikes. 1 cruiser and 1 step thru and we love them both of them. If you want a ebike you can't go wrong with Himiway. Thanks CitizenCycle great info on ebikes.
@jrambo7495
@jrambo7495 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can answer my question please kind sir? Does the Himiway have cruise control?
@wmnapier
@wmnapier 3 жыл бұрын
The reason the tires on the Himiway are quieter is that the center row of knobs are close together. Therefore they do not have a gap to fall into and hitting harder between knobs making the road noise. They may be more aggressive on the outer edge but on hard roads the center of the tire is where it rides the most.
@unvarnished1
@unvarnished1 4 жыл бұрын
Very good review. I have the Rad Rover and it is fine for me. I’m 75 and I think it’s being a little tame is a good thing. The Himiway looks great as well.
@vfc54242
@vfc54242 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 77 and not as flexible as I used to be, so the Rad Rover sounds good, especially for the step through. I live in the Orlando area and wonder if there's a way to test ride the bike?
@eqfan592
@eqfan592 4 жыл бұрын
This video was simply fantastic. The info provided was pretty much exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a ton, dude!
@Oldsparkey
@Oldsparkey 4 жыл бұрын
I have been comparing the two for a couple of months. Checking all the information between the two I could find. Then I hit the mother load..... this review of yours hit it out of the park for me.
@nickloks
@nickloks 4 жыл бұрын
Which way r u leaning now?
@Oldsparkey
@Oldsparkey 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickloks..... Not leaning , paid for the Himiway step threw waiting for delivery this month.
@nickloks
@nickloks 4 жыл бұрын
@@Oldsparkey same here. They told me it won’t ship till late November
@alharrison3255
@alharrison3255 4 жыл бұрын
One week later, now it's late December at the earliest. :(
@ashleyrocha1028
@ashleyrocha1028 3 жыл бұрын
How long did it take to arrive?
@theeniehenderson4466
@theeniehenderson4466 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best review and I’ve watched too many to count
@IrishGrad51
@IrishGrad51 2 жыл бұрын
The best comparison video I’ve seen so far regarding the two bikes
@RideFishHunt
@RideFishHunt 4 жыл бұрын
I set my Himiway speed limit to 90. Not that it matters though. Awesome video!
@grizzlieschannel2324
@grizzlieschannel2324 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Himiway Cruiser and love it! No issues so far after about 230 miles. I'm a big guy 6'4"and 280 and it carries me quite well. So for you fellers like me out there, I would recommend this bike over the Rad Rover because of the power and reach.
@chrisnorris3641
@chrisnorris3641 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have the Rad Runner. I spent a bit on a few upgrades and Would like to upgrade the Controller and Motor for more speed, other than that, I love my e bike
@SMG-lz1zq
@SMG-lz1zq 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! You do a better job than all the other reviewers I've watched, and I've watched a lot of them! I was surprised the Himiway has a lot of the features the Radrover 5 step thru doesn't. The Rad Power bikes do have excellent customer service and a lot of how to videos to help you. I don't know how Himiway is.
@kjhghhff
@kjhghhff 4 жыл бұрын
Himiway has a youtube channel with several instructional videos. There are also two owners groups on Facebook, at least one group includes the company itself. The customer service experience I've had so far has been very good, they've responded within 24 hours to emails and a weekend voicemail I left. My experience is limited however as those contacts were related to delivery of the bike and accessories.
@OutlawFarmersRC
@OutlawFarmersRC 4 жыл бұрын
I have a RAD Rover step thru and weight is 380lbs I have zero issue with mine on flat tow paths run 18mph and about 22mph while pedaling. Like I said I weigh a lot lol. I got mine used and from other customers experienced with Rads top notch customer service so that determined my buying decision.
@Yanmarman1
@Yanmarman1 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear. I'm at about 280 and actually have lost about 10lbs since I've been riding the rad step thru. Love the bike and like you the great customer service. Everyone needs an e-bike.
@montro1190
@montro1190 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually 415 lb I have a Himiway Cruiser and it takes me up heels very fast
@mark3010
@mark3010 4 жыл бұрын
Just for the record your reviews are Top Shelf , I hope you never change formats, E bikes are growing in popularity each and every day and I see a very successful future for you and yours in the E World. 👍 Ebikes are loved by every age group, that includes elderly grandpa‘s like me. 🤓
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
wow thanks Mark! i will keep my production budget low! hahaha :) THank you for your support, i see you comment a lot.
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but not POS like these two!
@frankd.brennan6520
@frankd.brennan6520 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to get 2 bikes for me and my wife and we're both elderly, but in decent shape. Any recommendations. We're not tall but we don't want a shorty
@BillTheHawk
@BillTheHawk 4 жыл бұрын
I bought this bike yesterday because of your great review! It should come in 2 weeks. I actually have watched 50 or so reviews in preparation to purchase an e-bike. This is a lot of features for a relatively inexpensive e-bike. I should say that this will be my 2nd e-bike and I now know everything (haha) I need to have for my personal use. I am 75 years old 6'1" and 260lbs. This e-bike is rated for 350 lbs which are significantly more than most e-bikes! The derailleur and brakes are not as good as other e-bikes in the 2K+ range. The options included will come in very handy. Overall am I expecting too much? Time will tell!
@dexsj77
@dexsj77 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill Please post a small review of your Himiway when you get it.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill, hope the bike works out well for you. I've seen good and bad comments on Himingway, mine has been fine so far.
@BillTheHawk
@BillTheHawk 4 жыл бұрын
@@dexsj77 Hey again, where in USA are you located? I am in California...
@BillTheHawk
@BillTheHawk 4 жыл бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 Hi again! Where in the USA are you located? I am in California...
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
@@BillTheHawk NC
@therealgirlinthewoods
@therealgirlinthewoods 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review- have a Rad, considering a Hemiway! Excellent video :)
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brooke!! I just subbed to your channel 🙂 It looks like you're doing all the stuff I wish I could be doing outside.. Good luck with your next e-bike purchase!
@fredg1959
@fredg1959 4 жыл бұрын
Researched both and bought the himiway, Thanks for your insight as I have only ridden the himiway. Bought two, one for my wife. 100 off purchase of 2. You have a pretty sweet gig if there giving you bikes to review. Thanks again 👍
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found the video helpful I really hope the himiway bikes work out for you. I like both himiway and Rad. The himiway definitely performs better out of the box I guess we'll see if it holds up over time like my Rad has.
@prairie6204
@prairie6204 9 ай бұрын
Tell me do you still have the bike was it a good investment
@Luis-mu9dk
@Luis-mu9dk 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Himiway Cruiser a couple hours ago hugely because of this review and one other. Thank you so much !
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it ships fast and that the bike works out for you! Thanks for checking out my video, Glad you found it helpful.
@kwrusso
@kwrusso 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased my Himiway Cruiser Step Thru this summer. Has to wait about 3 months due to supply and demand. I am 6'4 and 245 lbs and I am very pleasantly surprised at the performance. This bike has definitely exceeded my expectations. The only option I would like is a rear suspension. I am very anxious to learn how I can make the adjustment needed to increase the speed. I would like to attain a speed of 30 to 35 mph without pedal assist.
@kwrusso
@kwrusso 4 жыл бұрын
I will be anxiously waiting for your "screen adjustment" video that you mentioned.
@iainbalfour3264
@iainbalfour3264 4 жыл бұрын
@@kwrusso Can be found on other KZbin videos - Tinkering Turtle is one.
@kwrusso
@kwrusso 4 жыл бұрын
@@iainbalfour3264 Excellent recommendation. Followed the simple steps and increased ny speed from 22 to 32 mph. Thanks
@wellfleetion
@wellfleetion 4 жыл бұрын
I just got my Hiimiway this Sat, Columbus Day weekend. I rode it both Sat and Sun. It's super toquey and is a beast. IT COMES PRESET AS A CLASS 2 EBIKE, BUT YOU CAN EASILY CHANGE IT TO A CLASS 3 THROUGH THE SETTINGS. (You can't do this with a Rover I don't think without having to buy another module?) There are videos all over here and it's wicked easy; I did it Sat night.I had my Himiway going 34 MPH Sunday! 30 MPH down packed straightaway forest paths too. Thing is fun. Also changed the peddle assist settings from 0-5 to 0-7. The ability to change the settings is deep with the Himiway and a great feature I totally did not expect and am totally psyched about. I think I made a good decision based on this review. Time will tell.
@greatguildersleeve8861
@greatguildersleeve8861 4 жыл бұрын
I saw one video that showed you could make it 9 speeds!
@Already100
@Already100 4 жыл бұрын
Hello buddy how is the HimiwayCruiser doing ?., hope everything well I'm stuck between the radrover and the HimiwayCruiser
@wellfleetion
@wellfleetion 4 жыл бұрын
@@Already100 I've put 250 miles on it in 2.5 weeks. It's been great. Best purchase I've made in a long time.
@mima4392
@mima4392 4 жыл бұрын
@@wellfleetion What's the benefit to changing peddle assist higher?
@wellfleetion
@wellfleetion 4 жыл бұрын
@@mima4392 The power is more balanced out over the different levels. However, you can also change the cadence levels for each level individually as well in the settings. It's 7:45 AM on this Sat, it's going to be a perfect 72F here in Mass., and I'm going trail riding soon!!!
@kjhghhff
@kjhghhff 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I have a Himiway cruiser on the way and had subscribed to you weeks ago since it is very similar to the Rad Rover. I initially thought you were going to compare the Himiway to your upgraded Rad and thought "no fair!". You quickly addressed that and did a thorough and fair comparison. Well done, I hope to see more on this and the Himiway! The rider community is fast growing, a link to this video was actually posted in the FB owners group.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
Hi KT T Glad you enjoyed the video. i will be doing a ton more videos on the Himiway. Tell all those facebook folks to check them out :) i don't do much on facebook.
@kjhghhff
@kjhghhff 4 жыл бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 Will do, thanks
@brntroutguy
@brntroutguy 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to by the Himiway until I saw many comments about poor or non existent customer service, and so I bought the Rover. The really good news is that I can use the battery from my Runner as a back up power on really long trips. Rad has the best record for after market follow up.
@KillerNetDog
@KillerNetDog 4 жыл бұрын
Ive run Kenda tires on my dirt bike, they have always been a decent brand to me.
@canaldesmr
@canaldesmr 3 жыл бұрын
Very good review, rhanks
@hughmarcus1
@hughmarcus1 3 жыл бұрын
Kenda are one of the main brands for quads/atvs so they know how to make a tough tyre.
@jmo5743
@jmo5743 3 жыл бұрын
We are waiting for our Himiways to be delivered in May or June! Thank you for this video as we were trying to decide between the two.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 3 жыл бұрын
Wishing you a speedy delivery. Hope you enjoy them!
@jbwjr54
@jbwjr54 3 жыл бұрын
That was an outstanding review. You covered just about everything you could in the time you allotted. Very good detail and flow. The only downer is that the bike is now $1599. I was just bout to buy the Rad Rover, and ran across you video. I was so impressed that the Himiway is my choice now. The bikes a so similar, but what out me over the top, was the 17.5 amh battery. It does not get much better at this price point.
@danimayb
@danimayb 3 жыл бұрын
Even 17 ah batteries don't seem all that much on these powerful hub drives... OK I say that because I have a 38 kilo fat ebike with 1000w motor and I don't limit amps or anything, So I'm gonna be eating my battery lol
@peacefulprepper2402
@peacefulprepper2402 3 жыл бұрын
Now you got me wanting the Himiway, lol. Great review!!
@kevinsheeler6
@kevinsheeler6 3 жыл бұрын
You sold me on the Himiway! Thank you! Great video!
@barb4707
@barb4707 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. I'm totally sold on purchasing the Hemiway ebike, except I'm only 5 feet tall, and that bar over the battery will definitely cause me some grief. Maybe the company will listen to your review, and make some design changes before I make my final decision in spring of 2021.
@stevenorsinelli4029
@stevenorsinelli4029 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of best side by side comparison e-bikes videos i have ever seen! Great information, detailed bike information and high quality video and sound. I think after watching this, i will buy the Himiway, seems like a good bike and i like the motor and the speed better. I also like the weight it can take. Thank you so much for this review, I Like your style and that you state that you are just a rider of e-bikes and not a pro. Great job mate!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, I'm glad that you really enjoyed the video 🙂
@bookooc5605
@bookooc5605 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought one, based on your videos. Thank you!
@Fleshybitz
@Fleshybitz 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered the Himiway based on this review and the fact that accessories are in stock
@DanRoot33
@DanRoot33 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I have been comparing these on their websites and this was very helpful. Thank you!
@ManuelHernandez-bg8bl
@ManuelHernandez-bg8bl 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking things down for us. Very thorough, complete review.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Dave-ef9xo
@Dave-ef9xo 4 жыл бұрын
The Himiway is my personal daily bike. Pretty much for all the reasons you stated. You get the rear rack, fenders, a larger battery (17.5) and 2 year warranty on the battery all for a lower price than the rad.
@danmanr
@danmanr 3 жыл бұрын
With the controller moved on the hemmingway the seat tube is able to move back closer to the wheel, making the frame geometry closer to a normal bike from what I can see here. I LOVE my Rover BUT I find I sit forward more than what is ideal.
@rickcowan7527
@rickcowan7527 3 жыл бұрын
I would encourage those who are contemplating a Himiway to take my experience into account. It's just about 2 months since I plunked down $1549 and I'm still waiting for my cruiser. I've been promised various delivery dates in nice emails from different names--Jennie, Ellen, Yukyin--but the promises remain unfulfilled. The latest email promised that it would be shipped by the end of May. My emails and phone calls are now going unanswered which is very concerning. I know supply lines for bike parts are under pressure but Himiway should've been honest about that when they took my money. Or waited to charge my credit card until the bike shipped...
@JimmyFlim
@JimmyFlim 3 жыл бұрын
I've been researching ebikes and saw a lot of the same complaints. BBB has a lot of filed complaints as well. Staying away from these guys.
@craigladeroot642
@craigladeroot642 3 жыл бұрын
What has happened to you is not good. You need to get legal advice about your problem. The sooner the better. Call your bank or credit card company. These bike companies are not like buying a motorcycle from Honda or Yamaha. Some are fly by night companies. The people that make these videos do not have a background in riding mountain bikes, dirt bikes and other bikes. I can tell they haven't been around the world of two wheels. I hope that it works out for you. Buyer beware.
@7thpilot
@7thpilot Жыл бұрын
Ordered mine through Amazon got it in 3 days
@LynneBowden-o2k
@LynneBowden-o2k Жыл бұрын
Cancel it now. Mine has 270 miles and won’t work anymore. Himiway customer service is terrible. Be prepared for huge repair bills which I decided weren’t worth it
@mark3010
@mark3010 4 жыл бұрын
The big difference to me is Himiway sounds like an honest company unlike RadRover, just add a Bolton controller and you’d be good to go. Why RadRover hasn’t been sued yet for calling there motor a 750w. when it’s a 500 W. Is beyond me.
@seriouskite
@seriouskite 4 жыл бұрын
"TRUE" " air quotes" that! Any other company/industry, total recall. Loophole is probably puts out a maximum of 750W from the mislabeled, deceptive Bafang 500W. A True 750W puts out Maximum over 1000W. Bryan's performance comparison up next will be FUN! One would think a Fan-boy/girl of Rad or official from Rad would speak up. I've searched, deafening silence...........crickets, oh wait I meant North Carolina Cicadas.
@Altema22
@Altema22 4 жыл бұрын
That whole opinion was presented by a competitor, who is not an engineer or an electrician. I'm an actual engineer, and the Bafang geared hub motor Rad handles a full 750 watts all day, and delivers 80 nm of torque as promised. Last week I tested the motor from a RadMini 4, and it handled 1,185 watts fine. The owner rode the bike for 47.38 miles, had fun climbing 28% grades and doing dirt burnouts, but asked to have it reset to stock because it was too aggressive.
@seriouskite
@seriouskite 4 жыл бұрын
@@Altema22 "Dirt Burn Outs" ?Amusing "opinion" I'm not an engineer but that comment is very suspicious. There is no low end torque to do such a fancy feat. Anyone who is in the E-Bike game knows this. I don't believe you are an official form RPB, why such an amusing comment? Before this becomes a pissing contest, present evidence of a Rad Mini 4 "burnout". I've ridden 4 different 2020 RPB's, unlimited if I could call it that. I can hold back the bike standing with throttle on, if I squeeze the frame and lift I can get the rear wheel to spin on pavement. NOT a BURNOUT! If you have watched the not so RADical Rover transformation into the Citizen Cycle Bryan confirms the motor is 1/3rdish smaller. Labeled 750W RPB collusion with Bafang and is a TRUE 500 WATT. Now the death blow, game-set-match, nighty night! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXybaHR_nr15prs Kyle at Bolton and Bryan at Citizen saved us from buying this deceptive COLLUSION. Still not a word from RPB, crickets and cicadas, Ride ON and bring (real) game.
@mrslcom
@mrslcom 4 жыл бұрын
Factoring in the Rad's optional carrying rack, the weaker motor, lower battery capacity, less functional display, lower load capacity, higher price, etc, the Himiway represents a much better value.
@Horselings
@Horselings 4 жыл бұрын
Have both. The Rad Rover is way more fun.
@mrslcom
@mrslcom 4 жыл бұрын
@@Horselings Nice to know. How so?
@Horselings
@Horselings 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrslcom It' has a really nice, stable feel and is very smooth when using throttle. It makes a nice take-off with good increase in speed, and doesn't feel like it's going to jump out from under you. It's also really nice to have the lower step thru area. On the Hemi, the step thru is almost as high as a full frame version. It's interesting how much handier the lower step thru on the Rover is. We don't usually ride more than 20 or so miles in a day, and the battery is at half juice or more when we're through, so the Rad battery works fine for us. It also just feels a little more solid than the Hemi. Oh, and the chain channel is nice because it keeps the chain in place, and also helps protect pants legs from getting caught in the chain.
@mrslcom
@mrslcom 4 жыл бұрын
@@Horselings Thanks.
@Horselings
@Horselings 4 жыл бұрын
​@@specialist-in-tech Wow! You really have a bee in your bonnet. What you wrote simply is not true. We can afford anything we want, and we choose to have two Rads. The truth is that Rads are very sturdy, well made bikes. MANY owners have ridden them for thousands of miles with no problems at all- like NO problems at ALL. The welds are not cheap, they are not junk, and they are more reasonably priced than almost any other quality ebike. It sounds like you either have a personal vendetta against these companies for some reason like being an employee who was dismissed maybe, or you work for a competitor and are trying to tear down your competitors out of desperation. Whatever the reason, your claims are simply not true. Maybe therapy would be a better answer for your problems than trashing others. You remind me of a certain ex-president who's trying to poison the water for the real winner.
@kevinvalle4668
@kevinvalle4668 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact. Did you know that the RadRover tail light has a small button "covered in rubber" on the underside that when pushed will change it to a solid light to a flashing light? Found that on mine when adding the rear rack.
@Altema22
@Altema22 4 жыл бұрын
And the neat trick is that you can set the taillight to flashing, then turn the headlight off, and the taillight keeps flashing! Nice for daylight visibility.
@sjmiller8944
@sjmiller8944 4 жыл бұрын
Been subscribed to your channel and enjoying your videos since your first Rad posting. Thanks for sharing your experiences - your reviews are outstanding. Based on your videos, I have seriously considered a Rad bike for months now, but you sold me on the Himiway Cruiser Step Thru - I ordered one today. Since we're almost neighbors (I'm in Apex) maybe I'll see you out on the roads and trails once my new bike arrives.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sticking with me and watching the videos Glad you are enjoying them. I hope your himiway bike ships fast and that it works out for you. maybe I will pass you on the Greenway someday. be sure to stop me and say hi!!
@tedwalker1370
@tedwalker1370 4 жыл бұрын
I have an Lectric XEP. It has some pretty good programing and I would say having that extra programing and the 850 w/h battery and the 25 amp controller makes would a big difference I am sure.
@larryguevara3350
@larryguevara3350 Жыл бұрын
Sure like that you program the psa to 0 to 9 .I now have first set to rock crawl slow over anything. Game changer .
@jeepertim1334
@jeepertim1334 4 жыл бұрын
Another great review. Thank you for doing it. You really make a great case for the Himiway. Keep up the good work.
@andrewbauer4597
@andrewbauer4597 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! You just made up my mind which bike to get. I like the more levels of pedal assist on the Himiway.
@zzzxxzzz3248
@zzzxxzzz3248 3 жыл бұрын
The weight load maximum can sometimes be determined by the wheel rim/spoke strength ! Funny videos of big people overload weak wheel rim/spoke , where as the wheel gets an "S" shape to it when spokes break !
@JamesJ7851
@JamesJ7851 2 жыл бұрын
I was considering the Himiway. A friend had one. He had two failed speed controllers and his customer service experience was not good. I asked him about buying one, he refused to recommend the Himiway.
@LynneBowden-o2k
@LynneBowden-o2k Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t recommend them either
@bobburns7528
@bobburns7528 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am looking at both of these bikes. This is extremely helpful!
@tropezando
@tropezando 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the specs on the various Himiways, but I'm just a smidge too short for all of their bikes. Wish they had a few more options for frame/tire sizes.
@benjaminschumacher8532
@benjaminschumacher8532 2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you?
@tropezando
@tropezando 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminschumacher8532 5'1" or ~155 cm
@jimbrannan5825
@jimbrannan5825 3 жыл бұрын
As a begineer, I saw on their website Himiway has the 2 year warranty compared to Radrover has only 1. These bike essentially use the same parts except for the frame. I would pick the Himiway.
@ernestlessard3656
@ernestlessard3656 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a dirt&road cyclist and just recently started looking at eBikes. These are the two brands I had dialed in on so I was psyched when I found your video. You answered all my questions and the comments reinforce it all. Great job, thanks!
@dawnhightman8557
@dawnhightman8557 3 жыл бұрын
As a bigger person I appreciate your real assessment!
@EbikeProducts
@EbikeProducts 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT COMPARISON. Thanks so much for the work you did to make this video. Rad bikes are tried and true, but with companies like Himiway improving the 750w hub motor 26” Fat Bike at that price, I think Rad Power Bikes will have to start doing more to keep market share. Rad Power Bike customer service is touted as one of the best in the industry. So that is where Himiway must do better to compete. Still Amazed Himiway is able to keep the price so low! Either they are running on ultra low profit margins or they cut corners that know one else has figured out and it doesn’t seem to be on the parts. Mmm. Maybe they just don’t spend as much on marketing as their competitors? It was genius of them to send you a bike to do this review. You’ve done the Best advertising I’ve seen so far for them!
@tomriffe1755
@tomriffe1755 4 жыл бұрын
My impression like most buisineses is that your profit margin is fairly minimal the first few years. They're building the brand so to speak, then, just like Rad did a few weeks ago, they raised the price 100 dollars.
@CanUhandletheRandall
@CanUhandletheRandall 3 жыл бұрын
What is the best conversion kit for a single speed cruiser coaster brake bike, I'm a older man with no need for speed but need torque to help me get up the hills ?
@brucemacmahon5603
@brucemacmahon5603 4 жыл бұрын
I got my Himiway in August. It's a beast. WAY bigger in person than they look on line. Looked at both bikes, the Himiway was a little easier on my wallet. Some people reported customer service problems early on, but it seems as they've grown they're better able to respond to customers. That's my take on it anyway. Suggestions for new riders: Start in Pedal Assist zero to avoid unwanted acceleration as you're starting out. Don't forget to downshift as you come to a stop, so you're not in high gear when starting up again. WEAR A HELMET...30 mph is FAST on a bicycle.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
yes, i think a lot of folks are shocked when the bike shows up. its huge.
@chrisking3849
@chrisking3849 4 жыл бұрын
service from the Rad bike has the best service, something that can be very important
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
agreed! customer support is key if you want to keep customers and gain referrals.
@Antoine-sb5zv
@Antoine-sb5zv 4 жыл бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 I own a 2017 Radrover and when I asked for assistance on identity of a plug with the intention on improving batteries, there was no live person to talk to. All I got was an email recommending I spend $600 on a new battery. I rate customer service to be very poor.
@monkeybusiness63
@monkeybusiness63 3 жыл бұрын
That has been my experience as well. Rad service great
@monkeybusiness63
@monkeybusiness63 3 жыл бұрын
@@Antoine-sb5zv if you want battery or up grades for rad see Bolton bikes
@Antoine-sb5zv
@Antoine-sb5zv 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeybusiness63 They were just as bad. They had nothing in stock and they refused to give me the name of the connector.
@thundian
@thundian 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome honest video, exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
@arthur_letkeman893
@arthur_letkeman893 2 жыл бұрын
i own the new rad rover step through 1-for a full year. i love my ebike but it definitely lacks jam. i am very disappointed in the kenda tires after a year (a lot of wear). Ive wiped out 4 times in winter thinking a smaller bike liked the himiway escape would be better. thanks for the comparison.
@nelsoncaraballo9446
@nelsoncaraballo9446 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at investing in the Hemingway 🦓. Thinking of changing out tires to something smaller? I plan to use it for 🚲 🏕️ /touring. I plan to do no sand,off road,sand. Any idea? Thank you. Ride on.
@boblane5169
@boblane5169 4 жыл бұрын
Great fair comparison and information on both bikes! Thank you for doing this👍😁
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@ralphdangerfield9536
@ralphdangerfield9536 4 жыл бұрын
With the Himiwaycruiser Adjust your peddle assist levels to your liking , and use pedal assist with timely gear changes is all you need
@TheAlpine49
@TheAlpine49 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was an excellent, informative and fair comparison! I'm learning about ebikes and this comparison put Himiway at the very top of my list. Truth be told, I thought the RAD bike was almost as awesome. GREAT video and now a new subscriber!
@burtpanzer
@burtpanzer 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your efforts and find your videos to be unbiased, enjoyable and informative... thanks.
@davidschwartz1080
@davidschwartz1080 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the Hemingway has a 2 yr warranty v 1 yr Rad.
@CharlieArehart1
@CharlieArehart1 4 жыл бұрын
The himiway is indeed a 2 yr warranty on the bike and battery: himiwaybike.com/pages/warranty
@alexanderg117
@alexanderg117 3 жыл бұрын
Hemingway is ... LONG dead, unfortunately. No warranty available at ANY price.
@Michael._The_Storyteller
@Michael._The_Storyteller 4 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for an E-Bike and trying to get an idea what I'm going to need to spend, my fixed income make that #1 the review make that choice easy, GOOD REVIEW !
@elevenAD
@elevenAD 4 жыл бұрын
easy winner for me! Himiway allday! great comparison!
@RLowVaughn1
@RLowVaughn1 4 жыл бұрын
I dig the Himiway's rear rack, might have to get one for my RR.
@Tony-ij9zx
@Tony-ij9zx 3 жыл бұрын
Think the himiway back RACK would fit the RR
@wellfleetion
@wellfleetion 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a tip I just learned from customer service. (I called them and just hung up, no message and they immediately called me back - like immediately - impressive!!!). I was having issues with range only getting 25 to 35 miles on my 1st two rides and my power cutting out when the module was showing almost full power which was not cool. Well customer service recognized immediately it was set to 38V and not 48V in the module settings and had me hold down the Plus, Minus, and Power keys (with the bike off) at the same time to change it to 48 volt. He said this should correct these issues.
@kevinwiss6011
@kevinwiss6011 4 жыл бұрын
Which bike are you referring to? HIMI or the RAD?
@wellfleetion
@wellfleetion 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwiss6011 Himiway
@carbotradingcompany4794
@carbotradingcompany4794 2 жыл бұрын
I can't find any infor on the actual travel of the suspension on the Himiway. I know they Rad is 80mm
@michaelbattista1334
@michaelbattista1334 3 жыл бұрын
You need to review an ECells 1500 Monarch Crown. Dual 750 watt motors, dual batteries and dual suspension. No bike out there like it. It’s a Beast! I know I own one.
@jonadabster8401
@jonadabster8401 3 жыл бұрын
the reviewer said the rear gear is a cassette on both , I thought they both were freewheel ?
@vignesham4030
@vignesham4030 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Concise, presice , Helpful, entertaining and engaging. you just earned a subscriber.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks!!
@laptop597
@laptop597 3 жыл бұрын
Have you compared the rad rhino European model it's only 250w to the Hemingway cruise Europe model that's only 250w as well
@thankmelater1254
@thankmelater1254 4 жыл бұрын
Battery capacity makes a $200 difference in favour of Himiway. The discussion of how range generally may be estimated is distracting from the difference between bikes, which is the real purpose of the review.
@DIYJIM
@DIYJIM 3 жыл бұрын
I have watched many of your videos. I'm guessing you are using a Gopro do you use any kind of mic and how do you keep wind noise down. I plan on making a few videos when I buy my Himiway. Is that a affiliate link in your description if so I can use it to help you out? Thanks for the very informative videos.
@rogerf3622
@rogerf3622 4 жыл бұрын
Great side-by-side comparison! I noticed if you mount a water bottle on the Himiway it would further obstruct the step through more than the Rad. On the price, its actually $200 more for the Rad once you throw the rear rack on the Rad. For me, I only use pedal assist 1 and the twist the throttle occasionally to supplement the acceleration. I find pedal assist 5 is almost dangerous on the Rad especially on loose sand or gravel as it can cause unexpected tire spin and you can loose control pretty easy. So you’re saying its stronger on the Himiway? Ouch. It appears the 4-bolt spacing for the front rack on the Himiway is different from the Rad so you would have to find a different vendor if you wanted to mount the same bracket as you have on your Rad. What about when you call/email Himiway for questions/issues? Rad seems to have the best customer service I’ve ever seen. I know most people want to know “how fast will it go”. But as an ebike rider, its acceleration that really matters. Considering all these things, $200 is a lot to save for a more powerful ebike. Looking forward to your performance review. Awesome channel.
@mikern-bc5124
@mikern-bc5124 4 жыл бұрын
Now the radrover is 1599 further increasing the price difference.
@ManuelHernandez-bg8bl
@ManuelHernandez-bg8bl 4 жыл бұрын
Rad usually has a great year end sale.
@wellfleetion
@wellfleetion 4 жыл бұрын
I mounted my water bottle holder on Himiway on my handlebars.
@CharlieArehart1
@CharlieArehart1 4 жыл бұрын
The power on throttle may seem overpowering on a flat, hard surface. Add a hill, or a still-steeper one, and perhaps a trail or grass, and a heavier rider, and that power could become precious.
@rogerf3622
@rogerf3622 4 жыл бұрын
Charlie, I was talking about pedal assist not the throttle. Since these bikes do not have a torque-sensing pedal rotation system, they simply apply a predetermined wattage to the motor once the bike senses pedal rotation. In the case of level 5, when you rotate the pedals, and after a slight delay, it dumps 750w to the motor. The delay is shocking if you’re not paying attention and the delay off is equally shocking. That’s the issue. Having 750w controlled by the throttle is a separate thing and is always appreciated as the rider controls the motor wattage.
@melvinbelcher7606
@melvinbelcher7606 3 жыл бұрын
A drill and uni_ bit works well for drilling the holes in the grips
@ohwell2790
@ohwell2790 4 жыл бұрын
There are no true 750 Watt E-bikes from Radpower. The manual states do not draw more than 550 watts for more than a few minutes. The battery is 48 volts and 660 watts so how do you get 750 watts, a faults claim. I do own a Radpower mini. Which I think is a quality E-bike. Have over 3,000 miles with just a change of brake pads. Usually ride where I live in number 2 which is 136 watts and the occasional hill number 3. Radpower makes really good electric bikes and recommend them. I am 76 and ride most days.
@davew5980
@davew5980 4 жыл бұрын
I've got the 2020 regular black Radrover,which i am very happy with.I am impressed with this Himiway though and would like to see you review the regular model as well.As a future upgrade i would see the benefit of an already more powerful bike compared to upgrading the Radrover.Could just buy a Himiway instead of the cost and hassle of upgrading my bike.
@sglynn
@sglynn 3 жыл бұрын
Where is each bike made? Which has parts and accessories available? Which company has been around longer? What are the guarantees like?
@StevenYoungcaptual
@StevenYoungcaptual 4 жыл бұрын
Really great review and info. Thank you.
@zzzxxzzz3248
@zzzxxzzz3248 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought my radrunner 1 and paid $1,299 ! Wish I had seen this video first ! Does the himiway have free shipping ? Definitely would have bought the himiway ! Look out Rad , step up your game !
@willpoho8235
@willpoho8235 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I just bought it because of your video
@cody42069420
@cody42069420 4 жыл бұрын
I have that exact model of rad rover step through :) same color and all. Great bike
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
i have found Rad to be quality bikes as well.
@jamescoll130
@jamescoll130 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful to see your height 7:53 on these bikes as I’m the same as you.
@robh063
@robh063 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know how many charges the Samsung Battery will take before it needs to be replaced...If it can be replaced? The batteries have been showing out of stock on the Himiway site for quite a while now. This bike has a lot of bang for the buck but it's a non starter if you can't get a battery replacement or spare when needed.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I do not know how many charge cycles you get out of the battery. and yes all e-bikes and all batteries and parts are in very high demand right now. You'll probably just have to Google and look around. I believe someone told me they bought a himiway battery on AliExpress..
@debracroshaw7943
@debracroshaw7943 4 жыл бұрын
You've noted that fenders are included on both the Rad and the Himiway, but in Himiway's current promotion, fenders are not pictured on the step-thru. Do you know if that is a change they have applied recently, or are fenders still included as a standard feature?
@TR-zx2kj
@TR-zx2kj 4 жыл бұрын
Same question. Every review has shown them included.
@TR-zx2kj
@TR-zx2kj 4 жыл бұрын
Support called me and said they do come with fenders, and this is listed under accessories these ship with. Nice.
@Mike-tc2rl
@Mike-tc2rl 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for pointing out Himiway! I was leaning towards getting a Rad Rover or RR Step Through, but was worried it would be underpowered for the very steep hills near my house. I'd be especially interested to see how the two bikes compare on hill climb. I'm also interested to see how the Himiway compares in hill climb to your upgraded RR. I'm assuming I'll want to upgrade my new RR controller and maybe motor at some point, and I wonder if the Himiway might not require this. That would be another great savings, in addition to the lower price and included rear rack. Thanks for your reviews!
@Mike-tc2rl
@Mike-tc2rl 4 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to report that our new Himiways are in fact able to get us up our super steep hill... with us peddling, but not needing to stand up off the seat. Someone who lives on the street called out that he had never seen anyone ride up that hill! My wife told him that we had motors. I was just going to flex. 💪😛
@steved9098
@steved9098 2 жыл бұрын
hi, i'm 6'5" 250 want a cruiser bike have you rode the senada saber or herald also what is your favorite cruiser in the $1500 range, magicycle braking is a big concern
@gordianplot9347
@gordianplot9347 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the "bigger than you think it is" warning . I'm still learning about ebikes. These are both to big for little me.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
That's one thing that people really don't realize when they look at them online. Thanks for checking out my video 🙂
@rorywitzel
@rorywitzel 4 жыл бұрын
I am an owner and big fan of the Himi until my motor burned out. I have had the bike for about 4 months and just passed 500 miles. Customer service walked me through some tests then told me my motor was no longer working. They asked me to send a video to customer service of the bike and showing no response from motor. I received an email back stating they would cover the replacement however I needed to leave a deposit. Although I wasn’t thrilled about this I spent the $100 for a deposit. This was 2 weeks ago and I have been given a number of excuses as to why they have not sent the replacement out. Sounds like there has been a run on motor replacements and now they are telling me the last order of motors were lost 😒 I am losing my patience and losing valuable fall riding weather.
@seriouskite
@seriouskite 4 жыл бұрын
Motor replacement? EFF that noise 4 months ago? I'd be making some noise for a FULL replacement. YES, is there a Lemon Law? Any legal experts to chime in? Deposit for WHAT?
@LynneBowden-o2k
@LynneBowden-o2k Жыл бұрын
My bike quit after 280 miles. They have the worst customer service
@mrgold3591
@mrgold3591 Жыл бұрын
I wish Rad would update the controllers or at least give us more PAS levels. Sometimes PAS 1 isn't enough and PAS 2 is too much. I can never seem to match my speed and PAS level with my wife's Radcity step-thru. I also wish the PAS button only advance one level only with each press instead of sometimes jumping multiple levels. I sometimes go to PAS 0 or PAS 5 when riding on a bumpy trail when I just want to go up/down one level.
@davidgoodthunder5016
@davidgoodthunder5016 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome accurate review, I just found your videos and have subscribed, please keep up the great work.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! i hope to do a ton more videos on the Himiway!! :)
@jrambo7495
@jrambo7495 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Hemiway's come with a cruise control? I'm torn between Lectric XP 2.0 or the Hemingway cruiser because of the amount of weight they can hold.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 3 жыл бұрын
no cruise control that i am aware of on the Himiway
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