Wired Cruiser vs Furious EMX Ultimate

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Riding and testing the Wired Cruiser and the Furious EMX Ultimate. A quick comparison video with commentary from my Dad on his ride experience. The Wired Cruiser is a 26x4 fat tire ebike with a 60v battery and 1500w (3000w Peak) Rear Hub motor. The Furious EMX Ultimate is a 20x4 fat tire ebike with a 60v Battery and Dual 750w Motors. For the power enthusiast both are a ton of fun to ride.
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:02 - Wired Cruiser Specs
2:10 - Furious EMX Specs
3:10 - EMX Ride Experience
8:02 - Drag Race
10:41 - Wired Cruiser Experience
14:47 - Garage Commentary
21:24 - Wrap up

[@stevenpeavler959]

Just got my Wired Freedom 2024.2. My initial thoughts are: big.adjustment coming from 20” fat bikes and motorcycles - not news as all the reviewers have mentioned the size of the bike. Throttle is twitchy and lags, so if you’re in level 5 you’ve got to be ready for when that throttle kicks in. For that reason I kept shifting down to peddle assist 3 and only used 5 for hills or high speed roads. I set the start power to 3 which is the softest start and the throttle setting to match the pedal assist level. Riding full out in 100 degree heat and it did briefly shut down for about a minute after a steep hill. Motor temp hit about 298 degrees per display. Suspension feels nice, lots of travel - so much so that the rear rack hit my tailbone a couple of times. I’m 6’5” with long legs and sometimes sit at the very back of the seat. I’ll have to adjust seat height and suspension settings to see if this will be an issue for me. Overall though, lots of power, climbs hills like it’s nothing, and fun as heck.

[@MissPiggy-ms2xz]

Guess you got the need for speed from your dad. Love seeing y’all race.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Haha I guess 😁

[@kdscrapping4452]

i am still waiting over a month for the Furious to be shipped to me . can't wait!! Did the pre-order with the extra battery!!

[@davidintexas783]

Well, I'd pick the Furious due to the power being more customizable.

[@user-kn2ut3gm4n]

A torque sensor is a must for me so the EMX has everything i would want just wish it was a step through. The havoc x2 just needs full suspension then that would be my perfect bike

[@markwexy1621]

So glad you mentioned that the Furious bike can be optioned with a 1000w rear motor only. Cuz the more I've heard you and others talk about all-wheel drive e-bikes being very treacherous around turns, especially with loose gravel, the more I want an enike with a 1500w rear hub only.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes dual motorbikes on loose Terrain can be very very tricky.

[@bobbybecker80]

If it's close, I'll take the rear-only system.

[@charliehustle5312]

I'd say: If it's close, get the one that's actually in stock.

[@ariessun7273]

@@charliehustle5312 right cause the emx is not

[@mickster1780]

looks like a lot of good clean fun

[@MarkBarrack]

Wheres is mine! The wait is killing me, Ordered two one freedom one cruiser. All I know is the money is gone and a promise was made.

[@fciscokid]

Pre-ordered the EMX AWD and the 20x4 sold me. Also love the BMX style look. So exited, can't wait to get mine. Thanks for the comparison video.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Good choice!

[@jeroddalton]

Your pops had really good takes from an experienced age.. Thanks.

[@applechili2848]

Two of my favorite & most courteous brands, in some flavorful colors. Just needed to put that out there, before I buckle in.

[@ericberg7364]

This is so much fun to see, I've got the wired freedom and my son has a folding emtb 750watt . We have fun when we get to ride together. Great stuff, great video

[@Kevin-vc9nw]

Loving the green colour

[@chuckwolf9869]

About AWD Bikes I own a Philodo H8 Which is a 26 X 4 Bike that comes with dual 1000 watt nominal, 1500 watt peak motors using Two 27 +/- 2 amp controllers on a 48 volt system It will hit 35 mph and accelerates to 20 mph in under 6 seconds, and will hit 30 in 14 seconds.

[@richardvega6825]

After watching your dad on the cruiser made my mind had to order it.thanks for saving me $50

[@deadstreetpoetry5179]

Great video, thank you!

[@tomlauritzen9522]

Oh man I wanted to see a head to head with the new updated Wired vs. E-cells new 5 star.

[@jasonkrantz8946]

Lol

[@jfly2249]

No competition, the Wired has a 1000 more watts. The e cells step thru with 2 batteries is $2899 vs $1999 for the more powerful Wired bikes. E cells also has a F rating from the BBB and the owner is an unstable felon who started e cells while on parole for murder and sold mobile homes prior to prison.

[@Goesriding]

​@jfly2249 weird, I thought ecells was $1895 and wired was like $2300.

[@ii1825]

@@Goesriding Careful, jfly is the owner of Wired. He trolls any comment about E-cells. Petty and childish.

[@Goesriding]

​@ii1825 lol oh yeah I remember now..

[@haroldmiller6853]

I get my summer bonus on Wednesday and I’ll be ordering the wired cruiser that evening

[@sledhead904]

check out ecells, bit better.

[@billylehoux2743]

I know how eager to receive this extraordinary E-bike will be for you. However, you may have to exercise extra patience. But I think it is worth it. From the research I have done, and my own experience, Wired E-bikes sometimes underestimate delivery dates. However, Wired E-bike Co. has, as far as I know, always delivered, albeit a few days late sometimes.

[@Daveyoung-wc6fj]

don't do it

[@haroldmiller6853]

@@Daveyoung-wc6fj why ?

[@stopcantstopwont9539]

​@haroldmiller6853 I'm waiting for my cruiser, it's better than anything else for the price. I was going to get an Esmells but then Wired came out with the more new better bike.

[@jrutman4441]

Thank you sir! This is the exact video I needed, I wanted a wired but worried that I'm short for such tall tires ( I'm 5'8 but short legs) the emx looks incredibly interesting, and it looks like the duel 750 watt motors technically keep you legal (whine still allowing you to have tons of fun). Hopefully we'll get a range test of the emx? Pretty please? 😂

[@EricLoeser]

Its a no brainer for me..First its price..Second is that I am 6'5 so the wired freedom is for me.. Nice video again dude. Keep em coming.

[@joeberginc7415]

If you own an awd bike, you learn to lean forward when you wrench the throttle 😀

[@Beltfedshooters]

Wire should offer a smaller version like this for smaller women and kids.

[@michaelhorton6166]

A 40 mph ebike for a child? Sounds like a death sentence!🤔

[@CrazyTruckinS10]

Kids Wired Freedom😂 that sounds like a lawsuit

[@Beltfedshooters]

@@michaelhorton6166 Not for a child but for someone under 18. The full size Wired bike is too big for some adults. A slightly smaller bike would be a hot seller IMO.

[@sledhead904]

ecells, get the 17 inch frame and 24 inch wheels,

[@E-Ryders]

🥰Omg, that Lime/Neon Green Cruiser is so growing on me. If there's one thing you could add or improve on the Cruiser, what would it be?

[@joeberginc7415]

I've seen a lot of your tests...try a steep wet grassy hill. That is where AWD leaves RWD in the dust. You have to stand up and lean forward to keep the front wheel under control...

[@fabulousebikes1110]

I would love to see an uphill race, i know the AWD drive bikes even blew away mid motor bikes with bigger motors.

[@jfly2249]

The difference between 20x4 and 26x4 is truly massive and comes down to rider size, personal preference and riding style. If you stay on well paved roads, the 20x4 is great, but the 26x4 is much more capable offroad, feels more stable at speed, and goes over obstacles that would swallow a 20x4 bike. The 20x4 is much more nimble, particularly at slower speeds. If you are coming from a smaller tire bike, you will be shocked at how comfortable and capable the 26x4 is, they go anywhere. Off course you have to be big enough to ride the big boy tires.

[@cs-xd9gy]

You need to make a new video on the emx ultimate. I'd like to see exactly how the awd works.

[@JohnBabcock-qy1cs]

Further testing is required. Bottom of a hill on a longer smooth road and a longer flat. 😂

[@titofadul2327]

I love the 2 of you racing , but dude , your dad cooked you 😅😅

[@TheTcat1000]

I hope Papa citizen sticks around for the dual between your black freedom versus the citizen bike

[@alanflatau1685]

I BOUGHT A 48V AWD 20X4 WITH TWO 1000W MOTORS. I BOUGHT YOUR 52V FWD KIT 750W MOTORS.THE 20X4 IS quicker than the 26x6in ebike. Wheel diameter will make a different 52V to a 48V

[@chainsaw_800k]

Would like to see how the emx one-x compares to the emx ultimate. I will buy one of them. Wanted to see how they differ.

[@jwillwork3683]

Love his enthusiasm, if he were on once A week it might be nice 🤷🏿‍♂

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes I wish we lived closer

[@wigenite]

8:07 was hoping for some side by side size comparisons like that to get a better visual idea.

[@MrWang.]

Preordered the wired with dual batteries. If these are close in power but wired has extra battery I’ll take the extra range

[@kdscrapping4452]

get extra battery with Furious also!!

[@baggerbenn]

@@kdscrapping4452u see that price with the dual batteries…

[@devilstomper88]

Hi there citizen cycle. Love your content man. Hey, how do you deal with wind noise when you are filming on an ebike?

[@CitizenCycle925]

@devilstomper88 for a long time I was using a lapel mic and I would try to hide it in a spot where it wasn't indirect wind. now I use a DJI mic 2 which seems to do a good job eliminating wind noise

[@gofly1878]

Spinning ain't winning. Where's your helmets?

[@multi-task5909]

Yeah, no helmet at those speeds is pretty dangerous; even for experienced riders.

[@MADsailing560]

Easy, Simba.... Both adults in a state that probably does not have a mandatory helmet law for bikes. Wouldn't be my choice but telling other people what to do is not really appropriate in my view.

[@leonsoto8333]

Nerd

[@pjmcintosh6147]

Stfu and stop crying about helms. You weirdos do this in every comments section

[@berickson3200]

You should mind your own business.

[@jasonkrantz8946]

The front motor be here fyi.thought i say something no worries still putting it all together

[@adamvitek9501]

Excellent video as always. If you would be so kind as to as to answer a question as only you could, I would appreciate it very much. Does the Fabulous Road Warrior and Fabulous EMX Ultimate peddal at roughly the same top speed? And if ridden exactly the same would the five extra amp hours on the EMX mean it would have a slightly longer range?

[@CitizenCycle925]

@adamvitek9501 I have not ridden the latest edition of The Road Warrior; however I would anticipate it having a higher top speed than the emx bike. The old version of The Road Warrior was definitely faster. larger Wheels equals higher top speed, and yes larger battery typically means longer range all other things being equal.

[@acerst.h3241]

I will like to see the Wired e-bike vs Aniioki A8 dual motor.

[@CitizenCycle925]

I don't have any Aniioki bike on my schedule but do have a dual motor Wallke H7 on the way...

[@JaRhule]

Any plans to review the Juiced JetCurrent Pro? I like these but I need a folding bike and want big power as im around 250lbs.

[@CitizenCycle925]

No plans for that one sorry

[@HighguyMcfly]

It mite be worth considering that with both batteries being drawn from at the same time you're going to have more power and therefore a higher top speed. I rely want to see all this testing with the rear rack battery on the cruiser instead of without it. I'm sure the cruiser will be significantly more powerful/ fast with that second battery attached.

[@markwexy1621]

Citizen, do you have a contractual loyalty to Wired, because I never hear you mention E Cells Five Star. We all would love to see a face off between the two bikes.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Haha, no contracts with any companies. I do have affiliate links now though with several. The specs of the ecells bike look very similar to wired and it looks solid built but I don't have any first hand experience with them.

[@sledhead904]

@@CitizenCycle925 I'm in chicago want to use mine?

[@jfly2249]

@@sledhead904You could have picked up the Wired bike for $1950 vs $2795 for a dual battery e cell and have a 1000 more watts, a thru axle and all the other goodies. Kinda sucks having an inferior underpowered clone.

[@sledhead904]

@@jfly2249 I'm pushing 2400 watts why are you lying that you push 3400, you don't. Let's talk about the rear rack. Look at the two side by side. Yours is junk. Plenty of posts in the forums of it broken. My babies ride on that in a child seat. No thanks. Then let's talk about the rear suspension play and wobble(video proof available). You almost had me sold on a lime green step thru but I've done my research. Fix the issues.

[@sledhead904]

@@jfly2249 and clone, no, they have the frame 1st. You copied that. But he did steal the idea of the 60v setup, battery and controller and motor. But ecells fit and finish got you beat. Free market. Competition drives better products for consumers. Ps I got the thru axle, longer rear axle, already mounted a Thule trailer and the 4 PISTON BRAKES, the 203mm THICK ROTORS. Big brakes are awesome.

[@mikebordeaux8218]

When will Wired send you that second battery?

[@rayrussell6258]

Your videos are always entertaining. I may have missed it if you've already compared an Aventon against the Wired, but I'm 6'5" so the littler Furious bike wouldn't really fit me.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes at 6'5" the Furious bike would be pretty small for you. I don't think I've ever compared Wired with Aventon. Seems like those two bikes would be for different crowds, much different performance.

[@rayrussell6258]

@@CitizenCycle925 I like beefier large frames that both bikes seem to have, and the large fat tires. I would never do trail riding, but I'd be interested to know if the Wired would be noticeably different than Aventon on rough paved roads. I live in rural country, where they throw blacktop down to fill and cover holes in the road, but never roll the patch, and the pavement gets rough to ride on.

[@jfly2249]

The Wired has full suspension, much higher quality forks, much better brakes, and 3x the power and battery capacity as the Aventon. The Wired will be much more comfortable over rough roads than the hard tail adventure. The Aventon is a bike, the Wired is in an entirely different class.

[@rayrussell6258]

@@jfly2249 I suspect that to be the case, but I'd like to see the comparison in action. I already have the Aventure 2, with a dealer nearby, but I have no Wired example anywhere near me to test ride. I want a second bike, so I never have to wait for a battery recharge. (and the Aventure seat is really hard! lol)

[@Gary_Snook]

Can wait for you to review the Road Warrior Ultimate AWD ?

[@ii1825]

I have one on pre-order but I'm thinking about cancelling it and ordering an E-cells Five Star.

[@fabulousebikes1110]

@@ii1825 Seriously? E-cells is no competition to any Furious ebikes. lets compare a few things, True torque sensors, better suspension, fully programmable, modified motors, better derailleur, better brakes, better price! These videos are fun to watch but lets be serious here about comparisons....there is none. In a few weeks Road Warriors Ultimate hits the scene and the real fun begins. You made a great choice, soon you will understand.

[@VEGITAS4]

What about the goat bikes? Are you going to feature them anytime soon?

[@weareallamericans7358]

Hey Citizen 👋 How about a Dual Battery Range Test for any of these Two Bikes in PAS 3 while pedaling ?

[@CitizenCycle925]

I did a dual battery range test on the wired using various levels of pedal assist and it went 71 miles.

[@weareallamericans7358]

@@CitizenCycle925 thanks 😎👍

[@danielbossis2939]

Hi I wonder if Lampro will make you try his 2024 Furious Road Warrior Elite ??

[@fabulousebikes1110]

The new Road Warrior Ultimate is arriving next month as well, we might as well send the new one with the dual suspension. I think what people overlook is that a 20" wheel diameter should go slower than a 26"....but the EMX holds its own, the question is what will the new 26" version do with the bigger wheel diameter? The fun is only beginning.

[@fenceman53]

Just load it up on Papa’s truck already

[@user-df3kt6ox1t]

I am happy with my 1000w rear. Need helmets boys. When is to much power to much?

[@whykidi3208]

I'm looking to replace the daily as I've just got into some trouble. I like the wired because it's faster but dual motor setup is unique if I was unsatisfied with the speed how hard would it be to just upgrade the furious and beat the wired?

[@Thom_Yorky]

I'd review my Wired Freedom that was I supposed get mid-June to the end of June but I haven't received it yet and now it's July. Pretty frustrating.

[@MarkBarrack]

Thank Citizen cycle for the delay. Joking but serious. Apparently his feedback prompted upgrades that have lead to another month delay in shipping. The upgrades sound like a good thing. Yet the delay is a bummer.

[@Thom_Yorky]

@@MarkBarrack i actually got a call and I’m getting the bike tomorrow!! 😊

[@MarkBarrack]

@@Thom_Yorky there is a glimer of hope. Are you picking it up or is it being delivered? I am in the Champaign area and opted for pick up

[@Thom_Yorky]

@@MarkBarrack I’m from Michigan and decided to drive and pick it up. The pick up location is in Mundelein IL.

[@MarkBarrack]

@@Thom_Yorky right on. Same pick up location for me. Freedom or cruiser? I ordered one of each.

[@goldbearbunny4787]

Wired could have tons of sales if they would ship to Canada

[@jfly2249]

If fabulous can’t sell a high powered bike in Canada, how could Wired?

[@goldbearbunny4787]

@@jfly2249 o what makes you think that

[@goldbearbunny4787]

I've bought many my self and a I know of alot of people through out Canada that owns emx and havoc bikes

[@fabulousebikes1110]

@@jfly2249 Who said we cant sell?

[@michaelbedard7859]

Poppa 🐻 bear🎉omg great color. Lol me to fast.

[@EuroEnthusiast1990]

Still waiting on the Wired to arrive my only concern is how to transport this bike because of its size will it fit on a standard bike rack or be too heavy?

[@DaveGonzales-qz4ks]

Get Young electric mate R bike rack , for fat tire e-bikes up to 200pnds for 2 bikes. Best heavy duty bike rack for weight

[@MrJimmyjames46]

You can turn off the front motor on the furious emx can’t you? You could just ride with the rear motor and engage the front when needed?

[@mikejackson4414]

Does the EMX have motor temp? With them performing so similar off the line, i wonder if the differential could be which overheats slower.

[@kbstuff19]

assuming equal total power consumption and output (since acceleration seems to be similar in spite of difference in wheel diameters), I would think two motors would run cooler both due to lower draw and more surface area to dissipate heat.

[@CitizenCycle925]

No motor temp guage on the furious bike

[@fabulousebikes1110]

We dont overheat. We have thicker wires going to our motors and have less draw as we have separate controllers to both front and rear wheel.

[@davidcleveland347]

Does the newer bike have 2771 certified batteries?

[@landscapingspecialist]

Get an Aniioki A8 pro. Might buy a 4th bike 🙄

[@simoharjane7823]

Give your dad a helmet please !! :)

[@bizzfo]

The seats need to be adjusted higher so your knees don’t hit your chins

[@DaveGonzales-qz4ks]

Daa

[@bobk18]

I would take the Furious if it wasn’t 2 wheel drive. Besides you’ve proved rear wheel and mid-drive motors are the way to go. I’ve never be a fan of front & rear drive set up.

[@fabulousebikes1110]

Your wrong, until you try a AWD drive you will never understand how fun and versatile they are. Mid drives are horrible with them always turning your chain.

[@bobk18]

@@fabulousebikes1110 about the response I would expect from a company selling dual motor e-bikes in “Vive le Quebec libre”. merci beaucoup Salute!

[@bill420247365]

@@fabulousebikes1110 What about the Furious EMX One-X 60v? That seems like a great choice if you don't want AWD. Can the EMX One-X 60v be purchased with the extra 15ah rack battery?

[@RH-nc8uu]

1500w/3000w means can not be ridden in public in United States with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions in a couple states. No roads, no sidewalks no trails no bike lanes

[@riceball777]

correct but in general no where enforces this plus even if they tried it would be impossible to inforce since you can take the name and stickers off and they look the same as your typical 750watt ebike.

[@DaveGonzales-qz4ks]

You need to Buy a non e-bike

[@RH-nc8uu]

​@DaveGonzales-qz4ks and you need to follow the law or be prosecuted and persecuted As presume you don't. I have multiple legal ebikes used legally and mountain, road, cruiser and hybrid bikes. People who flaunt breaking the law due to sense of entitlement or stupidity (like not knowing the laws) are arguably the main reason the United States is being destroyed

[@Goesriding]

Save $50 link doesnt work?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Clear your browser history and try link again

[@Whoadayson]

If you already paid for it, you can msg the wired guys and theyll sort it on the backend.

[@randyhuff6478]

Would you be able to provide any incite on what is occurring at furious bike. Assumed they are inundated with building pre-orders. Which I am one of course. Their new furious website has a ridiculous amount of conflicting information, misspellings I began to wonder. Then their site mentioned the retail would be closed but. Phone and email were operating. Then now it mentions dealing with family matters. Could only leave a voicemail when I wanted to speak to a live person to alleviate concerns and nail down some specifics. Sent an email to support with my order number information in hopes of maybe getting the awd ultimate emx 60v dual operating manual. That was days ago. Now I have received my email bounced back as their server refused it. Still believe everything is fine but, do you have any info? Could you forward or post the manual. Going out of my mind and being able to plan some control adjustments upon arrival. Besides just obsessing experience is better since the website for sure isn't optimized and doesn't flow well

[@Whoadayson]

Anybody get their Wired 2024+ bikes yet? How about has anybody that is going to pick one up at Chicago Warehouse heard anything? Ive got work off this week and just hoping I can align pickup with off time? Thx for any info anyone can offer! I dont want to bother the Wired crew for this if possible but I have been forgotten by other companies not related at all to Wired (to be clear) and I have small worry if I dont bother occasionally, theyre busy enough to where its possible to get lost in the shuffle, but to be fair, I dont see it being likely with Wired! Thx for vid with Citizen Paps

[@stevenpeavler959]

They created shipping labels last week and sent people tracking numbers, but still no pickup from UPS or delivery dates.

[@TunaSoda]

@@stevenpeavler959 As far as I know the first batch already went out like 2 weeks ago

[@billylehoux2743]

Same here. Waiting for UPS to pick up the e-bikes as the shipping labels have been created and a delivery date.

[@Whoadayson]

@@stevenpeavler959 Ah, ok. Its close to being on its way but makes ya wonder why multiple days in there waiting for UPS to pick up? Hmm, thx for the info!

[@Whoadayson]

@@TunaSoda I thought I saw a few new reviews with the dual battery and dated for 6/27/24

[@blown9646]

Adult bike ftw!

[@darinsmith2458]

Your dad has a need for speed.. Let me know how he liked them after driving them for awhile..

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Seat too low, not good leg ROM.

[@DaveGonzales-qz4ks]

Who cares

[@alexher-fedup]

so much for safety no helmets…

[@IslandFilmMaker]

Lots of power on the flats but with with that front Chainring you have a high top speed, (I'm guessing 56T) but can either these eBikes can climb. Interesting to see what the top speed would be with a 40t climbing chainring.

[@fabulousebikes1110]

AWD drives can go up ski hills, you wont need to pedal.

[@jasonbuzzalini5174]

LINK FOR THE FURIOUS EMX DOES NOT WORK!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Fixed it!

[@BillBadMule123]