Improved ride quality - Tannus Armour & New Tires

[@bwnco]

Been on back order for months now! been waiting for ever!

[@omarmerle]

Surprised that you didn't mention one of the biggest benefits of your tire/insert upgrade - No more flats!

[@anthonypierce5850]

Thanks so much for the video! I have the Rambo 750W mid drive Ryder hard tail and recently had a flat tire on their 24x4" Kenda fat tire (front) and your video has convinced me to purchase the Tannus liners for it!

[@CollegeRecruitsNW]

Great stuff again. My Rover is a bit harsh with stock tires. Also, I bought Bikearoo senior seat with the rubbery springs, Awesome seat! No noise and much more stable than the Cloud9 I had. Thanks again, my next upgrade is in the books.

[@rogerodahl7480]

I bought my Rad Mini in Sept. 2016. At the time Rad's did not have front suspension, so my first major upgrade was to get a Body Float seat. Expensive, ( $259.) but worth it. About a 95% difference in ride comfort. I do like the idea of those tires you're running with the foam inserts. I only have 800 miles on my original tires so I have a ways to go yet. Hopefully, Specialized makes that tire in a 20x4" size.

[@Scalpp]

They sound great. Nice job as always. I got the origin 8 tires and it's a different bike now, I enjoy riding it much more. You need a suspension post next.

[@billwilhite2190]

When I get tannis liners I'll let you know how they work with my tire and the brand.

[@catspaw3815]

Sounds like you hit the sweet spot with that combination. Good call, CC

[@CitizenCycle925]

I really did, ride quality is so much better 😁

[@snarklar]

It's mostly the tannus smoothing the ride. Just one thing to be aware of if it matters to anyone- soft and squishy= a little less speed and more battery drain. It's hard to really notice on an ebike, but moreso at the lower level end, and going uphill. For me it's one less day back and forth from work before having to charge per week, roughly. And then more dramatic on longer rides on different terrain and whatnot. Big hills with softer tires were really slow and dumped the battery! Just something I think people should think about. If you're doing a lot of trail rides, it's more worth it. If commuting and riding the road mostly, it really wasn't to me.

[@johnlemon9116]

It's mostly the insert's. Funny enough I have a similar set up and I have the Juggernaut Tire's. Used the Tannus Inserts without changing tire, have the exact same seat as you but I do have suspension for my seat post and YES, it is SMOOTH. So your assumptions are correct lol. Great video's by the way! E-bike's are fun! Even more so on an off road kind of situation!

[@SMG-lz1zq]

Ah, first one to watch the video today! Love the new tires! Sounds good! May select those next when I need new ones.

[@markmoreno7295]

I have seen many videos with riding here and there. Not sure exactly what the difference is, but yours seemed more peaceful, lots of green filtered light, friendly co-bikers, you can almost smell the trees. For me the ultimate test would gave been to test them over a patch of goathead thorns.

[@bobras]

Try Mission Command. Had them on Pedego trail tracker. Good tire. Will put on my Rad next summer and less expensive.

[@timdavis7567]

Enjoyed your video. I own a Himiway Cruiser and my wife has a Himiway Step Through. I do agree ebikes are a lot of fun.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Himiway is a nice bike, glad you are enjoying them!

[@jimbob5b200]

I have Tannus on my Enduro bike fitted inside michellin dh 34s and dh22 (finger breakers to fit ) and I love them they keep the tyre slightly soft for grip some extra absorption for better traction and keep good form in the corners and u think they roll faster which is kind counter intuitive but I love them and piece of mind , I'm your massive tyres can only benefit more !

[@Linda-br1od]

It,s all about tire pressure. I have a Sondors X with 4.9in tires going from 20-25 psi to 12-15 psi is totally different ride Rides like you say super smooth with lower psi and stock tires

[@mark3010]

I hear it’s the Tannus , got them in both tires now, haven’t tried them yet , my new motor Is supposed to be here sept 3rd, I’m excited to ride my new upgraded Rad👍 you are so like me, I have a nice Trek mountain bike I got years ago still looks bran new, never took it off road, and I’ve always cleaned and waxed my bikes, what can I say I baby my bikes, keeps um looking new, and rust free.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes I definitely baby this bike too, off-roading through the dirt,mud, water is what destroys them. After I wipe it down my bike still looks practically brand new. I'd love to hear what you think of the tannus armour after you ride on them.

[@Summitperry]

Mine takes me to work every day. It looks like a work truck. Lol.

[@timhardman4764]

Hey Mark, how about an update on those Tannus inserts. Is it the inserts or the tires that make things so much smoother and quieter? The E-bike community wants to know!

[@themessiahssecondassembly7761]

Dude you can tell from just the angle of the camera that your just gliding over the surface of the ground very little bumping or jiggle in the handle bars, too cool. I like the fat boy's they really do take the bump out of the ride, thanks for the heads up.

[@sarabenfit5234]

Great content!! Love your channel. I have a 2019 Radrover. Waiting on the controller upgrade from Bolton. But just had my first flat. Riding desert gravel roads and pick up a thorn from one of the many desert bushes. Thinking of adding the Tannus liners to my stock Kenda Juggernauts. Ill let you know if it softens up the ride.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Thank you Sarah! You are going to love that controller upgrade 🙂 please do let me know if the tannus liners soften up the Kenda tires and make them quieter.

[@sarabenfit5234]

@@CitizenCycle925 Went to the Tannus website and they are sold out, surprisingly:) I will keep checking, and hopefully, they can re-stock.

[@timhardman4764]

@@sarabenfit5234 Interested to hear your review when you get them installed. Please test at various tire pressures also to see if the lower PSI like 13 or 15 is quieter and grippier and more plush a ride than 25 psi.

[@sarabenfit5234]

@@timhardman4764 Hi Tim, did finally find the Tannus liners from another vender online. Very easy to install. Broke them in on a Oregon elk hunting trip. Had them at 15lbs. Put 30 miles on gravel roads and dirt trails. They felt fantastic. Very smooth. Well worth the money. And the upgraded controller is a game changer. Made climbing hills effortless.

[@Brandon_Neil]

I'd like to see how tire pressure changes the ride. Could you do some comparisons at different psi?

[@rogerf3622]

Good review. Yep the Kenda tires are LOUD!!! When mine wear out, I have get a quieter tire.

[@CitizenCycle925]

It might be the tannus armor inserts that muffled the sound I'm not sure.

[@williamreynolds6132]

I just ordered my RadRover and opted for the Tannus Armor so hopefully won’t be loud. No way to tell I guess without riding without them though :-)

[@steverolfeca]

Given everything you have on the bars, you actually need wide bars. For decades, I’ve been helping people to feel more comfortable on their bikes by shortening them to shoulder width. Makes the front end feel more planted, and you don’t catch your bar ends on trees, etc. I’m nearly 6’ 3” and 230lb, yet my bars are only 24” wide.

[@rickyn1135]

I’m sold on the tannus liners. Especially now I know we don’t need the fifty $50 tubes (yellow) with the Red foam liners.

[@hitmanhart6220]

I definitely want to do the Tannis armor on our bikes. I have a cyrusher 900 the wife has a 650 and those Chong Fung tires were horrid. I did splurge a little bit and bought the maxxis minion FBR and FBF for mine, and I put the Kenda Juggies on hers. Funny enough we both noticed a pretty decent speed increase and just playing around in the grass. I have so much more confidence taking turns that I never would’ve attempted on those crap Chinese tires. I have a question for you. I want to upgrade my entire drivetrain to Minimum Shimano Deore, because in PAS5 there’s no point of even peddling the motor over powers the gearing. So I was thinking about going to a smaller sproket in the front and hopefully a 10 or 11 speed cassette and derailer obviously. More of what you see on higher end, mountain bikes. do you know if on the 900 would it be compatible with the Shimano crankset?

[@PhotoStrider]

Thanks for the great video 👍👏😀🍻

[@landonferguson7282]

If you want something to protect the paint on your bike frame, look up helicopter tape, it's supposed to work well against rock chips. I bought some, but haven't Installed it yet.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Hmmm, interesting I didn't think of that.

[@landonferguson7282]

@@CitizenCycle925 I only thought of it because I doubt my Walmart bike will have tough paint.

[@garthhowe297]

Very interesting... I didn't think the tires/liners would make that much difference. I know people's heads turn when I ride down the road on my Kendas... they are very noisy on flat asphalt. But oh boy ...300 USD ...oof.

[@9Venturi9]

For your Speedometer Issue: Try setting p2=6, p5=15, c14=2.

[@CV-dl3hj]

Nice and quiet! I finally got my ebike too and it had 120 tpi tires too. It seems louder than yours so your Tannus inserts could be cushioning your sound.

[@CitizenCycle925]

That is possible, maybe the tannus liners stop the ringing/vibration through the tires.

[@ozzie444]

I saw your speedo showing zero when you coast issue in one of your other videos. Have you figured this out yet? You got your controller, motor & battery from Bolton didn't you? Have you asked Bolton for any help on the speedo? Any feedback from them?

[@niteblaster1]

Good video 😎 I've just bought it for 29" wheel, need to cut it down for 14" dyu d3, don't sell it for that size wheel 😱

[@danielkaz6280]

Another great vids 👍

[@MR_R.o.b.o.t.o]

I bought a Himiway. Its bad ass

[@CitizenCycle925]

How long have you had it?

[@laplantemichel709]

How did you like your Tannus Armour now in 2022 did they get squished flat as a pancake eventually? Saw in other video they get flat so they dont protect after only a few months on

[@LarryRichelli]

Some day I hope you get a chance to ride a Sur Ron. Different world.

[@philiprayner]

why not get another set of tires without the Tannus Armour

[@timriemersma9076]

Are you still happy with the tire inserts? Thanks

[@boostercontrol100]

Nice!!

[@southwestlondoncarp4313]

Do the Tannus use more battery power

[@edsanchez2534]

HEY CITIZEN THE HIMIWAY AND RAD FRAMES ARE THE SAME...HAHAHA!!!

[@CitizenCycle925]

They are not exact but pretty darn close!

[@kinguvclubz1]

Okay my bike was stolen and my replacement bike is in the mail from Rad, but my question is will these fit inside with the stock tubes or do I need to go a smaller tube for them to fit best?

[@CitizenCycle925]

They fit with the stock tubes

[@karthikkarunakaranmenon6785]

Do you had to change the tubes inside to accomodate the new armour??

[@ernestpigler3558]

Have you resolved the issues with the after market upgrades?

[@johnf3326]

What you don't mention are the 'maintenance' suggestions that because the foam compresses, you should deflate the tyres when not used (between rides?!) even remove them and have a steamy shower with them! WTF! 😲

[@kenneth7197]

Do you have any mid-drive bikes in your collection?

[@CitizenCycle925]

2 mid drives, the Biktrix stunner X and the Eunorau G20 cargo bike

[@MR_R.o.b.o.t.o]

Lower TPI means bigger cords and rougher tougher tire. The more tpi the softer the ride and tire is not as tough.

[@justinharrell9256]

Yeah normally lower TPI mean better puncture resistance but not as soft a ride. I guess with Tanus armor maybe that is not as much a worry.

[@billwilhite2190]

Could you pull out tannis liner and see if it's the tire itself? Hahahaha. In any case I'll go with the liner when I'm able. I already have a good tire ,( such as it is) they I'll wear out before trying yours out.

[@michaelrollo2264]

800 miles on rad rover 5 wonder if I could still get the controller upgrade (china tariff)

[@Franklincarpetcleaning]

Soft rubber, hope they wear well.....

[@CitizenCycle925]

We will see, I got them partly as an experiment.

[@adampurvis6186]

How do you get the mirrors to stop turning? I brought the same mirrors. One is turning all the time!

[@SMG-lz1zq]

Tighten the adjustment screws.

[@seriouskite]

Most excellent "Ride-A-Long" video, edit plus content. Again from your hard work and searching, we'll be doing this upgrade when our stock "Juggers" wear down. Do you think adding Slime as a preventive measure worth it? YES to the seat post next please. I ordered through your AMZ affiliate the Kangaroo seat, ordered the MZS mirrors yesterday, probably will be adding the light. Alright Mr. Free Agent.............that ONYX "moped" 60 mph. watched a video of a ride around Catalina Island. E-World wake up Mr. Citizen will review your E-bikes and we watch and buy your products. Thanx and one day the dream build, 72V battery, X000 Watt motor, dual suspension..................40 mph holy grail with ease, 50 is fast enough with the fake pedaling in front of the authorities. Ride-ON!

[@CitizenCycle925]

I dont think i would add any tire slime, it would probably end up being a real mess inside there. I have seen the Onyx bike BUT it is very motorcycle like and not sure what i would have to do with registration here in NC. it does look fun though... is 40mph the holy grail..? i bet i could do that on a down hill with my current setup on the rover, maybe i'll give it a try, might make for an interesting video.

[@seriouskite]

Onyx 60 mph is scary, Yes to the 40mph "holy grail" thinking you already get "pedaled out" in the mid 30's 7 speed needs more gears@@CitizenCycle925

[@philiprayner1772]

how does this bike ride in sand?

[@warrickjones4926]

Is there a way to upgrade the tires for the Radmini step thru like this?

[@CitizenCycle925]

I have not found tannus inserts for 20x4 fat tire bikes, I don't think they make them.

[@richardavery4407]

Rad now sells Tannus for the mini's .

[@martydodge8786]

Compair tires at same psi

[@racerx2095]

It's hard to believe that they are good on the street.I have juggers on my bike they suck on street. I'll take your word for it but I'm sure you can get better street tiers then those.

[@catman256able]

👍✌🏽🙏🚲

[@travelwithoutmoving8842]

Explain the 4:3 ratio which makes it look like a 2008 Video?

[@CitizenCycle925]

I had to Google this because I had no idea what you were talking about haha, I will have to look into this more and see why only some of my videos come up in that format. if I find a way to stretch to full screen won't it distort the video?

[@travelwithoutmoving8842]

@@CitizenCycle925 Cant stretch it afterwards. I am pretty sure you have it in 4:3 ratio setting instead of 16:9 on your Go pro. I think its a Go pro you are using? Definitely a camera setting you need to change before filming. I am amazed that you did not know about this. I thought this was intentional or just an old camera. Many of your Rad rover videos are 4:3 i have not seen one thats wide screen. This really effects the views i think because personally when i see a 4:3 video by brain automatically considers the video old or shot with an old camera and most people subconsciously know that too. 4:3 video is not just bad but unacceptable honestly for last decade or so when everything is widescreen. Will look great in an old Crt 4:3 TV from the 90's tho lol.

[@CitizenCycle925]

@@travelwithoutmoving8842 I use a GoPro 7 silver to film my videos and the thing crashes on me all the time, The settings probably got messed up, I'm just some guy that makes videos in my spare time so I know nothing about resolutions and aspect ratios. no one has ever said anything about it before in the hundred + videos I've done, and I never noticed. thank you for the heads up in the good information though, I will certainly take a look at my settings and research more, much appreciated.

[@travelwithoutmoving8842]

​@@CitizenCycle925 I understand . Its an easy Fix just change Aspect ratio settings to 16:9

[@CitizenCycle925]

@@travelwithoutmoving8842 i just looked thru the camera setting and there aren't any aspect settings, just resolution and i have it set to 1440, when i add a video clip to my editing program it asks me if i want to work in 1920x1440 30fps or 1920x1080 25fps and i usually pick the first.

[@mark3010]

Little does the guy on the Himiway bike know, you could of left him in the dust.

[@madderbob100]

🤣not unless he upgraded the motor and controller

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes I definitely wouldn't have been a fair fight. plus he did tell me that he worked with himiway to turn his settings down, he didn't like how quick his was off the line

[@lrdeamer]

Please let all of the air out of the tubes so we can see how you can ride a 4" wide tire FLAT! That tire will come right off the rim and no you won't be able to ride it home.

[@Summitperry]

I see so many ebikes now. Most of them are radpower or townies.

[@keving5235]

got a squeeky seat too, I have to wd40 the shit out of it every other week. piece of crap, will need to change at some point.

[@janezjonsa3165]

Your seat is way too low... but then again, maybe not to low for you. But wheels are way too fat, but again, maybe not for you.

[@niteblaster1]

Fat bikes, your tyre comes off the rim when you get puncture, If it's on the front then you fall off the bike 🤣

[@gerardjones7881]

decals? wtf.