Wired Freedom: Now with Dual Batteries! Range Test

[@CitizenCycle925]

wiredebikes.com/citizen925

[@MrBrandonOBrien]

Used your code to save $ today ! Thanks man

[@TunaSoda]

Is this code expired? Doesn't seem to be working

[@CitizenCycle925]

@TunaSoda should be valid at least thru 4th of July. Clear your browser history and give it another try

[@TunaSoda]

@@CitizenCycle925 It worked, thanks! :)

[@aetheon9906]

@@CitizenCycle925 It wouldn't work for me either. I reached out to let them know and Wired had me try another browser, still no dice. Told me to reach out again after placing the order and they'd credit the $50 back. Placed the order. Before I could even get back to the chat with Wired to ask, they had already credited me the $50 back. They answered their website chat within minutes. Seem like some good guys over there at Wired! Made sure to let them know you sent me - it was your affiliate link after all. I waited too long to pull the trigger and now I'm looking at late August delivery, but man I cannot wait to blast around on this thing. Thanks for the great content in the meantime, CC!

[@mikebordeaux8218]

I'm happy the bike can go 71 miles but I'm not sure my ass would hold up 😂

[@skismosis]

lol i have riden the tail of the dragon, i am sure i can ride this bike to work 2 miles, Hee Hee oh the dragons tail was on a 2003 harley superglide sport.

[@stephenolotu5588]

71 miles with being generous on throttle factoring size weight of this bike is actually next level crazy

[@Thom_Yorky]

Ordered mine through your link mid May and delivery is middle to end of this month. Can't wait!!!

[@61798]

same here

[@stoffel6348]

Got mine today! Woohoo! Left work to get the batteries on charge then went back😂. Cant wait to get home and finish setting her up!

[@gilltim5711]

So now that you've been riding this for a month, how's your experience? Any wobble? Does it feel like a safe and solid ride, or is it a little shaky?

[@stoffel6348]

@gilltim5711 only when you go fast and release the bars, but not during normal riding. They sent a new head unit I haven't had a chance to put on but it's really a non issue.

[@billylehoux2743]

I am expecting mine in 2 - 3 week. I am so pleased with your review. Thank You.

[@twinkieman237]

I just bought my own a few days ago it got delivered. Had some trouble with the setup so I emailed the company. Believe it or not the CEO himself responded and gave me a phone call to walk me through a very simple braking issue. Definitely worth the price. E-bikes are 10000% the future and I’m glad I got mine while they’re still cheap and relatively unpopular (for now)

[@infamousm80]

Same. The ceo called me back and I was shocked. Even had me message the factory and they sent me a replacement head unit, that was 100% my fault in destroying.

[@ZERUS1648]

Another excellent video! I own the 2nd generation Freedom in black, it’s a great bike. I placed an order about a month ago for the white Freedom, I’m keeping my black bike as a companion bike for others to ride. (when I’m with them of course) The extra mounted battery is a real bonus. I paid $800 for a spare battery on my black bike. You sold me on Wired before and you did it again. Thanks again for spending my money!😂🙏🏽

[@mobaby1979]

This is hilarious- EXACTLY THE SAME FOR ME! 2nd gen black, new gen white i will pick up in chicago area (Wired local pickup option). And im gonna ride with friends and SO excited to. And have a backup mounted battery for solo long rides. I have a 40aH second battery which i used on the black 2nd gen ( battery balancer installed) - that battery cost $850 lol

[@curtseth7995]

It's not 2000 its 2700

[@bill420247365]

@@curtseth7995It’s $2249 not $2700 😂

[@1bottlefed]

David Cleveland says what? Yes they charge tax where its required by law and no they do not choose the "Free Shipping" hook so many other companies do....of course in reality those companies just bundle it into the cost. However unlike those companies, with Wired you can choose to simply pick up your bike and avoid any shipping/insurance charges and dangers. PS does Ecells offer any cash back to those who pick up their bike in person?.....Oh thats right its free....what was I thinking LOLs

[@stxrobstar]

👍 Thanks for the testing and demonstrations. The Freedom ticks all the boxes for me. Ordered one a couple days ago through your link. 😆

[@nofilter2091]

Thanks!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Thanks!

[@RydinNStyle]

Man, that thumbnail is hilarious. I can't wait to start pumping out some Wired content in a few short weeks!

[@declan1139]

waiting for mine in the mail as well, got the black but kind of wish I got dark green

[@Altema22]

I was dying with the face swap! This really is the ideal setup for all around use, while still avoiding the motorcycle look. Going fast at the end pulled the battery below the low voltage cutoff, but you probably could have turned it off and on and just been gentle with the throttle on the way home. Full throttle voltage sag on a high powered bike is usually 6 to 8 volts with a single battery, and 4 volts with dual batteries. 60 volt battery cutoff is at 42v. With your voltage at 51.2, the throttle would have dropped it to 47.2, and the controller just said "Nope!". I programmed the low battery management system on mine to gradually taper the power down beginning at 25%, and it works out well for me. Thanks for the video!

[@djcharlie163]

That video is awesome, From citizen cycle to senior cycle.

[@MrKeg830]

Senior citizen cycle

[@IrregularrAF]

I only used it once so far, put in 23 miles, ended at 73%. Was pretty fun. Gonna try food delivery on it, see how long that lasts.

[@vanceg4901]

Had the problem of seat discomfort on long distance rides until I got a air seat cushion. About as comfortable as my Sleep Number air bed. When I get a Ebike I'll still be riding with a full helmet and Joe Rocket jacket, pants,gloves and boots. From experience I know how harsh low speed accidents on the road can be.

[@skismosis]

i was not wanting to spend this much money on a bicycle but i am now convinced that this Ebike is worth every red cent for the bang you will get from it, nice Video, thank you .

[@ytpremium7649]

Wow it's head to head with Ecells and Wired

[@hardyharr1361]

Holy crap these filters are getting pretty good.

[@LowDoughTech]

Almost 72 mile range at the speeds that you were riding is an absolutely INSANE range! Wow!

[@stephenolotu5588]

Thays exactly what I'm saying I'm contemplating just jumping in n buying it when my refund comes

[@Pidgeys]

I really didnt want to spend 2k on an ebike but this video is making it hard.

[@stephenolotu5588]

@Pidgeys I'm literally about to pull the plug n buy it but I'm kinda wanting the lime green n black but it won't be in stock till late Nov. Now I'm considering the blue

[@meeacct]

I just ordered it in black. I was debating on white. That looks great.

[@sleepinglysithia]

Sweet! Can’t wait for mine. Supposedly by the end of the month.

[@daveyJ213]

DUDE! You scared the hell out of me with that intro of you as an old man! Well done. Very cool! Who ever did that make up is an artist! Did I see you going 43 mph in PAS2? That's crazy! Anyway, great review as usual. Thanks for sharing your riding experiences with us. Be safe out there.

[@SeeBS2]

I'd like to see a range test for throttle only going an average of around 10-15mph. No pedal assist. Shown in total miles from fully charged batteries until empty batteries. And total mileage shown every 10%.

[@papablueshirt]

Looks like a nice bike. Going 71 miles is great range. The price is right too. Going 71 miles is no picnic on the backside. I did 70 miles the other day on my Philodo Jumbo, Here is the kicker. I did it without pedaling [was doing a throttle only test] I did it in pas5. One major difference, I looked older than you did when you were done, when I started. Maybe I should ride backwards? ; )

[@BETTERTOMARROW]

I would like to see no peddling at mid speed range.. maybe someone might not be able to pedal.

[@gomi_cat]

@@BETTERTOMARROW I agree, I don't mind sticking to around 20 to 23 mph, throttle only the whole time, would be nice to know how its distance fares that way

[@rascoe1717]

This range is more than enough for what I would want to do with it. So this is fantastic to get a trustworthy estimate of such a high range!

[@arelkay730]

Would you please address the the frame stiffness and stability some folks are questioning ? Thanks for your stuff.

[@infamousm80]

I've had mine since the start of this year, great bike, but even better customer service.

[@ebikeupgrades]

What a sleeper bike. This modest head light helps down play how capable it is. Impressive package. Prices sure do look low ebikes right now, but maybe manufactured parts have plummeted in prince (in China)?

[@stxrobstar]

Unfortunately there's supposed to be a pretty hefty import tariff going into effect in a few days. 😔

[@supercraps6110]

accurate testing, I have a 5-Star with dual batteries range test lasted 75 miles. That a good distance to travel while ebiking

[@rabbithomesteading3797]

lol so funny! You do look about 71.6 miles older. 🤣

[@leonphelps7364]

Great review! Thanks to your review I just placed my preorder for late July pickup also thanks for saving me $50!

[@darrenbenson2606]

This was what I needed to see today. I contacted Wired yesterday and they told me that I should get my Freedom by the end of this month. I ordered it on the 29th of March and the anticipation is killing me.

[@CNclov2005]

Woah jeez! I ordered mine literally about 2 weeks ago

[@MarkBarrack]

Ordered mine 3 days ago. Bought two, me and the wife. Local pick up.

[@Shane_Little]

I bought mine in March, too. The wait is killing me! Ugh. We got the sickest bike, though!

[@cellsheet]

Bought my cruiser a week ago end of March, super excited as well 😄

[@CNclov2005]

@@cellsheet wow! Sorry about the wait! It will Be coming soon

[@stevenwilson2928]

Thanks for a great review and a lot of really helpful info. Ordered my bike yesterday. I'm in South Florida. Flat land. I'm hoping for long range...If my butt can handle it. lol. Thanks again..

[@williamwiese9963]

Absolutely a great review on this updated bike, it's back on the menu for me. I ret like the twin batteries on this now. I'll follow your link for this one👌

[@johns5504]

Mrs Citizen knows she's set for years ;)

[@a.wheeler7731]

So between this or the cruiser, which do you think youd pick? Is the controller more vulnerable to water on the freedom? Any major pros or cons to either?

[@thejesuschrist]

Thanks for this. I've been considering the Wired Freedom.

[@mupetier]

I ordered last week it arrives tomorrow. I’m like a kid on the 23rd of December.

[@georgefelegy8607]

Could you weigh in on the Wired Freedom wobble with the battery on the back rack?

[@gov8094]

Hi Citizen, I've watched your comparison between the cobra and older freedom, I was just about to order a d7 Corba until I saw this video. Now I'm torn again, which would you say is better? I normally cycle to trails and go offroading, but lately, I've been going further out and need something to help me get back home 😅

[@ciscodoberman7434]

would be cool if you showed us how to charge our wired Freedom ebikes at charging stations. I am seeing kits you can buy with adapters ebikes for EV charging stations. What do you think?

[@CharlesHouston-y5r]

Hey Brian love you videos i watch them all i am still on the fence about the wired freedom and the ecells mainly because I was going to get the basic one but i am not sure now i am confused because when you do your range test the bike seems faster than you fitst show the bike with dual batteries ? Thanks

[@corywebb5537]

I'm really impressed with the power of that hill.Climb with a single motor you really can't beat it for the price especially

[@1bottlefed]

Great review, but one quick note. I have a 24 Freedom converted to 72 volts with dual batts (actually 3). I have found. If you want to do a battery voltage comparison you should blip the throttle to drain/cycle the capacitors in the controller to get an actual battery voltage reading....Not sure if this is always the case but I would suspect it is. Also in case you are wondering about the three battery setup......I wanted to keep the stock 60v so I built a 4P4S pack and ran it in series with the stock batt to achieve the 72 volts. The rear is a 20 AH 72 rack mounted deal. I am glad that the Wired factory seems to have finally added the rocker brace behind the seat tube as well as the one in front. The rear of the seat tube is where all the side loading takes place, I had mentioned this to Steve in early 24 and shown him what I did (adding a piece of 2x2 aluminum box tubing to the rear section to eliminate the side to side shift.....Not sure if they also addressed the slop in the bolt to hole interface where the rockers are mounted on the frame bracket as this on the 24s was also a major source of side to side which with the addition of a rear pack become a much greater issue. Footnote: Your aging scenario was hilarious I thought you had started smoking Meth when I first saw it LOL

[@orvillecooper8334]

What controller did you use to achieve 72 volts

[@1bottlefed]

@@orvillecooper8334 KT72ZWSRKD-NBP01X

[@brandoncrum4969]

I have the 2024 Wired Freedom and I got 82 mi on pas 1. Some of it was downhill. I rode from Lafayette, Indiana to Indianapolis.

[@Shane_Little]

This bike can't come fast enough! It's going to open up so may new places in my local area to explore and enjoy the outdoors! I used to think e-bikes were stupid until I realized what a cool thing it is, especially when the bike looks as bad ass as the Wired bikes do! Thank you for this video, old man!

[@MrAdamNTProtester]

Wow that's a long range test- I hope your kids still recognized you when you returned... gnarly

[@royfrye333]

I am 75 years old and have been riding my Magnum Cruiser ebike for 7 years. I bought it solely based on the size. I am 6’4” with a long inseam. The Magnum is a “crank forward” design that positions the pedal crank further forward to get proper leg extension without having the seat post raised up to the max height. I am looking for a fat tire bike that will fit me comfortably. I prefer an upright seating position with high handlebars. Of all the larger frame e-bikes, this one looks like it might fit my needs. I was also looking at the Himiway Zebra. Any suggestions?

[@terrysilverback8604]

Thank you

[@bergmanst]

Have you had any trouble with death wobble?

[@jimmyjames8736]

We could pass for brothers as long as you keep using the old man filter, Citizen. Another great range test. Nice mix of usage. But it would be good if you would also tell us the average speed recorded during the test.

[@raylivengood8040]

I think you should spin a wheel to decide what face change app you use next. I thought about the frown app, but that might send the wrong message to new people tuning in 🤣

[@PioneerPioneer-ny3jx]

I have a suggestion for you , test how fast the throttle responses are . And also test how loud the bikes are off road or hitting bumps. My Arial rider Kepler is quiet my other bike is a lectric 2.0 and it is pretty rattly . Thanks.

[@Jrc4120]

How does the overall build quality feel in these bikes? Do they feel like well made bikes when compared to other brands? Lots of rattles or "cheap" feeling parts?

[@cellsheet]

How did you end up getting the end caps off for installing the handlebar mirrors? Do they just end up popping out with some force applied? I got my Wired Cruiser the other day and I think I'll experiment with this a bit more as well.

[@CitizenCycle925]

@cellsheet yes loosen the bolt and they pop right out

[@cellsheet]

@@CitizenCycle925 Perfect! Just figured it out, heh, thanks!

[@RileyMcLaughlin-ns6gc]

So jealous, I just bought mine in March before they announced the dual batteries

[@nofilter2091]

Sure wish I saw this video sooner, funny story. July 16th I ordered direct from Wired, thinking I was getting the older single battery version. Then I saw this very recent video and now I'm even more blown away at the price point of this bike, it's fantastic! Also, would you have any recommendations on a more urban-style less fat aggressive tire? $Thanks in advance ;-)

[@blue408c6]

Wow the bikes don't shut down until 350? Mine gers to 250 and I feel like it's getting to hot

[@glenndavis7762]

Great video Bryan, do you know if any of the settings are going to change from your previous video on display settings?

[@gilltim5711]

Any issues with the wobble?

[@travissly8219]

What is the better off-road hill climber? This bike or a bike like the zeeger s1 or philodo jumbo?

[@zacharythompson9637]

Has anyone ever been caught in the rain on a Wired Freedom? I’m just curious how it would hold up if I got caught in rain. Is it water resistant?

[@8rett]

Any idea where to get that spare battery and a battery balancer at? I have the previous version and another 2000 is pretty high entry cost for realistically the same bike, when those same upgrades would IMO be around $1000. I found a spare battery on aliexpress (same SN and supplier) for about 450, I cant imagine a controller being more than $200 and a balancer the same. but I have no idea where to even start looking for a controller or balancer, let alone a pancake battery like that, which is awesome.

[@Aspire2Cycle]

I bought my Kandia America Trail King MT750 on June 17, 2024 for $2099 and now it's $2799!

[@michalmisio64]

How will I be able to mount rear cargo basket to the rear rack if there will be second battery in the new model will there be enough space in between the battery and the rack for the mounting screws ?

[@nymuscle6691]

Any recommendations on a cover for this bike ?

[@markwexy1621]

Citizen, you don't look a day over the distance you traveled on that range test 😁

[@LukeAntunes]

I need to know how you did Senior Citizen! So good!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Snapchat filter 🙂

[@DearSX]

great video! very good range and so fast!

[@sammyjames1929]

Ok now do a fork swap add the citizen warp drive and set youtube on 🔥 Let's go Bryan!

[@cellsheet]

Hey Citizen, thanks for giving us the range test on this one! Aged like fine wine! How well does this one hold up with rain conditions? I ordered mine a week ago or so and planning on using this as a vehicle replacement myself so I wanna know the limits before I need Uber 😅 I'll also be planning to commute about 5 miles each weekend as well to for visiting, so about 30 minutes in the rain or so perhaps worst case. Fortunately the grocery store is close by though. Also what side mirrors did you end up getting? Do you know the inner diameter of the handlebars as well by any chance for compatibility?

[@11-474]

Do all of these new Wired bikes have dual batteries now?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes

[@2tuffHD]

Citizen , Do You happen to know the true stand over height on the step over version? Also if you were to buy one today would You still be partial to the step thru? The step over version seems to fit You very well.

[@orvillecooper8334]

Could you tell us this? Did they use a combiner for the batteries Where is the combiner and what type of connectors

[@talentscout5135]

Nice bike. I think I’ll build one similar range myself for under $1000 and use my fold up bike to do it.

[@bizzfo]

2024 Freedom will do close to 80 miles using PAS 1 and 2 with 3 to get over a few hills. You gotta pedal to get that but not very hard. Just sayin’. I bet the 2024+ when riding in the same manner will get ~140 miles.

[@stephenolotu5588]

Seriously wow didn't know the batteries were that good😊

[@Beachplease42]

Hey! I used your discount code and am waiting in my bike! Question though - my wife is short like yours, she is 4’11-5’. What bike do you recommend for her? I’m thinking something with fat tires and something with decent range. Any suggestions you have would be much appreciated. Thanks!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Magicycle Ocelot

[@rvboondocker2559]

Is the unlocking on this the same settings as the unlocking on the earlier 2024 single battery model or is it different settings?

[@CitizenCycle925]

different, they are using different display and controller on this later model

[@jesusbarreto8678]

Can this bike last at least 8 hrs if I wanted to use this to do ubereats and doordash ??

[@peterjeantette4716]

Hi, I ordered this bike as well. Where can I pickup some mirrors like the one's on your bike? Thank you!

[@CitizenCycle925]

I got mine on Amazon, just search for bar end mirrors

[@peterjeantette4716]

@@CitizenCycle925 Cool, thanks for the reply. Got my bike this week. Stoked

[@joelthomson1]

Can I ask you and the ebike people's. Would you choose a 48v 40ah 150 BMS battery or a 52v 20ah 50bms battery.

[@JohnAfferty]

The problem I have noticed when I go on roads with reasonable speed limits like 35.Someone has to pass.You know matter how fast you are going

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Does it cut power if you change gears? Will the chain fall off easily?

[@Diamondxx47]

idk if should get this one i will use it for deliveries

[@WestgankProductions]

Hello, My Problem is a VERY serious one. It's about the rear linkage of the Cruiser and possibly the Freedom. I saw a KZbin video where a customer was having this problem with his bike. The whole rear of the bike wiggled side to side (with video). But the real killer was that he spoke with the CEO, and he was not willing to help! This problem started after a few days of his purchase. WOW, I was considering this bike, but after hearing this... So the customer went with E-Cell E-bikes. I ask you if you could HELP sense you can communicate with ownership. THAN-YOU

[@deadstreetpoetry5179]

This or the new emx ultimate 60v by furious e-bikes? @CitizenCycle which one would you say is better for exercise/ a more traditional bike feel?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Both are able to be pedaled for exercise, i think it would come down to the size of the bike you want..

[@deadstreetpoetry5179]

Would love a side by side shot to compare sizes! Love ur channel thanks for the great videos!

[@NOWitsOKto]

Would love to see you do a short review about the bike racks on the wall. When I look at rack that appear to be similar they are rated for like 70 lbs or so. We know e-bikes are heavy, so curious as to what you have on the wall, and in the racks (non-ebikes?).

[@CitizenCycle925]

I'm not sure what the steady racks are rated for off the top of my head but I've had 100 lb bikes hanging on them for years and they've stayed strong

[@NOWitsOKto]

@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for the reply. Ya, that's been my biggest concern about them as I now have 4 e-bikes, and an e-scooter and I do like to put the car in the garage at times. The brand is "Steady Racks", will have to try to find them.

[@CitizenCycle925]

@NOWitsOKto yes steady racks, and they get bolted into your wall studs with quarter inch lag bolts so they're pretty sturdy

[@danrogers9362]

wired cruiser order form only mentions the rear battery as a $400 option .

[@multi-task5909]

Thanks again for another great video!

[@rayrussell6258]

Man o man, you need to hydrate a little more while you ride those long distances. You've dried up and turned gray!! Hope you look better tomorrow. 😉 Now being serious, this bike looks like it's a definite top tier buy for 2024. Thanks for the review.

[@SpeedrunTnRC]

How does this compare to the juggernaut xd power wise does the 60v vs 52v make a difference or is the torque close?

[@CitizenCycle925]

I've never tried the Juggernaut XD, not sure of the feel or the specs

[@Coyote-Family]

Hey citizen cycle what mirrors are you using on this bike can you use the adventon mirrors on the new wired cruiser ?

[@DanWipper]

Curious if you've ever though of adding a front motor to it? The Predators 1000 watt front motor is too much, I'll bet it would do much better with a 750 watt. In fact the price of the Freedom with two batteries is so good the value of the Predator isn't close.

[@CitizenCycle925]

@@DanWipper 🤣 yes, I've thought of that....

[@darinsmith2458]

I like your mirrors.

[@damonjenkins3798]

Nice range test ya old fart! Pretty good distance considering the type of riding you were doing. Nice content!

[@LdE1986]

is it fully assembled out of the box or do you need to assemble it?

[@slowmopoke]

I put an extra 60v 20Ah in my pannier for rides to the beach.

[@Bustadhed]

I have an important question for you , will the 45 amp controller on the new wired freedom wear out the motor(1500watt) a lot quicker than the original 40 amp controller ???

[@jfly2249]

Nope, that is just a fantasy in Cleveland’s mind, like his yacht🤣😂🤣. Btw, the torque sensor on the jail cell bike is a total fail🥲 The guy takes a photo off of Alibaba of a yacht and claims he owns it but he just got out of jail and couldn’t pay his restitution and lives in the desert? How can you believe anything coming out of that guy, it all BS.

[@SarahJane-y1p]

@@jfly2249 Thank You!! The Words of Stevie Goldman aka “The Fly”!!!

[@jfly2249]

@@SarahJane-y1pTry again Dave. You are such a loser, Steve is not on any social media and Wired does no marketing. Maybe Cleveland will take you on his 110 ft yacht if you let him sniff a line off your Ciccones.

[@mellowjammer]

@@jfly2249 I'll ask you, since you seem to be very knowledgeable about these bikes... do you know anything about the Wired controllers made by Patriot Systems? I can't find any info on the company or find any other bikes that use them. Also, I was considering the Wired cruiser but they are tucking the controller (and battery balancer) inside the bottom bracket. I'm concerned about a 45 amp controller overheating in that small confined space. I've read about Freedom controllers shutting down from overheating and they are mounted out in the open air. (at least they self-reset when they cool down). Even Cleveland's version of the cruiser (Step Star) is mounting their controller externally like the Wired Freedom. What do you think? Any reason to be concerned? Know anything about controllers made by Patriot Systems?

[@tomlauritzen9522]

Thank you so much... that really tells a story.

[@Pinkeesnow]

Is there a trick to get the rack battery off?

[@CitizenCycle925]

@Pinkeesnow it can be a little difficult. You have to turn the key and hold it while pulling on the battery pack and there's no handle to grab so it's a little tough

[@jimlockhart183]

Please answer? Were the speeds showing on stock controller or did you modify the shunt or anything. It looked like 45mph is this correct. Im getting one

[@CitizenCycle925]

Nothing has been modified, it's a stock bike, 40+mph is pretty easy