The Beginning of a Brand New City & Harbor on an Island! | MC #12

[@CityPlannerPlays]

The annexation of Duluth is in full swing... but only in my head

[@irishflip1]

You need to get into HOI4 and take Duluth for the State of Superior.

[@thegoonies5924]

I’ve been watching this series and was shocked seeing my City in it! Go Duluth, MN! ;)

[@Dewey-CheathamAndHowe]

This is an episode I'll have to come back to when I build my ports, nice job and since you asked using mods is fine by me.

[@80aj]

I heard that Steven Stephenson was let go from his Board Officer job at Clearwater Southern when he voted AGAINST the port. He called and said he was tired of hearing all about Jamila, and he is selling all his land in Magnolia County, and said he is going to create a rival county! Something about the Governor and corruption with Clearwater Southern.......

[@yamikage8826]

6:30 - Make the Typography Fear You! 😈

[@lamborghini4268]

The addition of a lighthouse down by the port would be awesome! Everyone loves a lighthouse and it would be functional! Win, Win.

[@lolandxdproductions]

Yes. Right on the point by the ocean. Looks like a turtle head with two arms. Should be called turtle point.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

I have been looking for this asset but haven't seen it yet. If you do, let me know!

[@19Robert98]

Historically speaking there likely would be one placed at such a location.

[@MechaWhalestorm]

@@CityPlannerPlays you could use one of the radio masts as a modern take on a lighthouse, though I’m not sure how good it would look

[@Kopa_Malphas]

Dev mode surface painter really makes an area cohesive looking, and honestly, I'm here for it.

[@owenglover3279]

Seconded! I love using it myself, so satisfying.

[@samp4009]

Something that I noticed after the last episode with the high rent problems and looking through the save file is there seems to be a problem with homeless citizens. Looking at most of the parks, for example the tennis courts near the highschool or the university, there are people that are camped out. Maybe low income housing might be necessary. Being it is a cold climate area I now it would be a high priority to make sure there isn’t anyone that doesn’t have shelter.

[@RevAnakin]

It would be cheaper to get them train tickets to San Francisco.

[@garretthoie6542]

Yeah, I definitely would love to see his take on a well planned public housing complex

[@PatilG654]

From where did you downloaded the save game file?

[@tommantek3632]

@@RevAnakin Ethically and morally that's a wrong take.

[@RevAnakin]

@tommantek3632 I mean the homeless seem to love California because it is warmer than the Midwest right??? Obviously a joke :)

[@abuzaidkhan99]

WE NEED A LIGHTHOUSE!!! Ik its a cc cliche. But the tip of the island where you put the mineral ore is THE PERFECT LOCATION.

[@skatrash]

After all of the smokestack destruction, the episode ends with an outro of the harbor filled with smokestacks,

[@RyanThomas96]

Couldn't not, notice that aswell.

[@erikortlieb7282]

22:11 regarding the train bridge, if the company is spending the money to build a bridge that long, it would probably span over the highway and allow light boat traffic underneath the bridge, specifically port operations ships like tugboats, firefighting vessels and barges from up stream. In addition you’ve made a major trade artery prone to flood risk. Also a lighthouse near the end of the port would look amazing, it would make for a good tourist destination as well!

[@Jimmmmmmmm94]

I work for the City Development department in Rotterdam, for the longest time the biggest port in the world. What you see is that the port gradually shifts away from the city center, we even build a manmade island in the ocean about the same size as the city. Some cool projects we're doing now involves transforming the old ports in the city into new things, like a floating park, an artifical beach (dubai islands style) and a surfing spot/wave generator :)

[@joaofsell]

so cool dude, how long have you been working there?

[@Jimmmmmmmm94]

@@joaofsell For about 2 years now, but some of these projects will take another 10 years or more to finish haha

[@RWDtech]

Rotterdam is an awesome city. From the devastation during WWII to now, it's just an amazing place full of resilient people with good societal values.

[@RevAnakin]

​@RWDtech 010 is the best city in the NL for sure!

[@Turmel837]

Wow, Phil has some of the most interesting people in his audience. Can't wait to go study and finally add something to the pot!

[@WadeMcFarland]

You should use Dev mode to place the gas stations you are always hoping will pop in. Also adding surfaces seems reasonable.

[@RitwickChatterjee14]

but he wants to keep it as vanilla as possible

[@surik_at]

@@RitwickChatterjee14 and it hurts the build in the end, because Vanilla isn't polished enough...

[@SuperDave1426]

@@surik_at I figure it's his channel, his stream, his build, and his decision to make it work like this, and I'm fine with it, myself. Also, I fail to see how his sticking as much to vanilla as possible is hurting anything. Don't get me wrong - I'm all for mods, and I'm eagerly awaiting the game finally being ready to handle them without a third-party method as is currently needed (just personal preference). But this is his build and a lot of us are enjoying it exactly as he's doing it.

[@InochinoMichi]

I think maybe keeping it vanilla until episode 20 or so is fine, but then once the city is more developed, I would think it quite reasonable to use mods, especially for something like surfaces

[@a_boat93]

Personally i think the vanilla nature of the build is intended intentionally as to allow as many as possible to play along as they wish throughout the course of the build. There are a number of people that maybe can’t use dev mode for one reason or another so keeping it vanilla as possible doesn’t discourage that portion of the audience. I personally agree with his reluctance in this regard, but that being said, he has reached out to the community for its opinion so it is what it is.

[@oatmilkbreadcat]

Next ep we should add a clinic and an elementary school to Chairity Island! Maybe they could be named after the region's biggest charity donors... or styles of chairs haha

[@willburgess1074]

Here for Eames Road

[@MsClareBe]

Chairity Island, love it! 🪑

[@CityPlannerPlays]

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[@kaiezesi6630]

​@@CityPlannerPlaysa few episode ago you made an orchard, you think you could revisit it and maybe make it more functional? Give some pizazz,. Orchards In my area are great community spots for fairs and field trips

[@uberchemist]

Yeah, I love how he fully owns that he accidentally live streamed an empty chair

[@Julien_Fedon]

Top 20 CPP streams.

[@pool_deck5241]

@@Julien_Fedon top 10

[@voyageurdesign]

as a Minnesotan, "Duluth, WI" made me shed a tear 😭

[@bignol1053]

I was about to say.....let's keep Duluth in Minnesota please!

[@GenJamesSamson]

As soon as I saw that I paused the video to find the other disgruntled Minnesotans in the comments 😮‍💨

[@ElJefe0719]

same here

[@zacharyabelson8196]

@@GenJamesSamson same

[@PetertheShakeMan]

Same, I'm from MN as well

[@QemeH]

Seeing that we now have a bustling modern port right at the doorstep of Bend, it would be a good use of synergies to add a nautical sciences departement to the University of Superior.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

The university is for sure not done yet!

[@RyanTravis23]

I'm only 35 seconds into this video, but have to give you massive props for thinking of shipping concerns, and ponting out the important ports of Duluth and Rotterdam. Your attention to detail and IRL references make your channel one of the best on KZbin period. Thank you for doing what you do, Phil!

[@RyanTravis23]

And props to the editor!

[@DarwinPlaysVideoGames]

I love how you're totally owning the chair stream 😆 one of the many reasons I love your channel!

[@GodIsGoodArmadeus]

I agree 😅 🪑

[@Someone36991]

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[@cjaliaga]

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[@TheGrimHHH]

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[@Kdogg1030]

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[@marjoh669]

6:44 You were the chosen one! It was said that you would respect the topography not destroying it!

[@willburgess1074]

Me when he said that: "Humph. I'll bet he doesn't even put the pipes underneath the road, right where they belong."

[@mollymatthews6482]

My mom grew up in La Porte, Texas (near Houston) and, if you couldn't tell by the name, it was a port town. The city didn't allow buildings over 4 stories until about 15 or 20 years ago, so once that law was changed there was a hotel that was built 5 stories tall and it was truly a spectacle to everyone living there so the one tall building in the area is actually quite perfect.

[@fbnbl]

I think you need way more storage space in the harbor. I also think that you should place a unique factory (like the car factory) close to the harbor, that would be logistically logical.

[@mikkelah.3589]

Oooh, a unique factory is a good idea!

[@grievinglux]

Every morning before work I come to this channel and hope for a new episode of Magnolia County. It is always a good day when there is a new upload!

[@MathiasStinson]

I work in the shipping industry, and although your development is a river port, I think a breakwater would look very cool and generate some cool movement for the vessels going through and add some realism with having the port protected to wind/weather and high swells. If you can work out the waterways to make that fit, I think that could be a great addition to the harbour. Once possible to use assets you can also replace it with dense rocks which would make it look realistic. All in all, very cool build!

[@troymelody3830]

In the future, as Charity Island grows in population, it would probably be a good idea to consider a commuter rail link to the community. Since the infrastructure is already in place connecting the port to the mainline railway that runs through the city of Bend.

[@TrevorD19]

I noticed you had houses on a slope next to the water line last episode. That is EXTREMELY dangerous in the Midwest due to regular flooding of rivers. The foundation of those houses will get ripped right out of under them. I know this living in Illinois. You also dont leave open cliffs in the Midwest due to the limestone content in our ground. Only 1 plant can live in contaminated (alkaline levels) and it is the Fen.

[@andre-cmyk]

absolutely obsessed with the harbor. they look so realistic and amazing! i do have to say that the amount of high rent warnings are bugging me tho, it might be important to have the next episode focus on the magnolia county housing crisis and make sure there's enough density and low rent housing

[@smoore6461]

I really love the story of Clearwater. The whole story aspect of it makes it all the more interesting than a straight-up city build . There is nothing wrong, of course, with just building a city, I just think the story you're telling makes it all the, more interesting and engaging!

[@Focus_Zero]

Having grown up in Savannah, I'm happy it was able to provide some help for this build. This was a fantastic episode. Happy to see MC growing.

[@TrevorD19]

Savannah Illinois?

[@TheGrimHHH]

41:43 - I love that Phil's mouse movements show how surprised he was when the path fit through there without breaking anything

[@ericfrench7551]

Epic Chair stream! 🪑

[@JD_Nash]

Did you see the gas stations by the police department?

[@rockinacroc311]

This is genuinely one of the best series on KZbin

[@KyNYC212]

Check out the Palisades in NJ…cliffs facing Manhattan…and Morningside Park, Harlem. Not all high cliffs need softening lol. Amazing build as always!!

[@simongeard4824]

Indeed. If you softened all the cliffs, you wouldn't get news stories about mansions falling down the cliff every time there's a good storm that causes slippage. People do build on steep cliffs, even though they probably shouldn't have.

[@Carikenja]

There should be a street named for Jamila. She's one of my favorite characters because my mother worked with railroad construction companies not exactly the railroads but same kinda of work. Speaking of I don't remember does Jamila have children? It's always nice to know not just the story of cities but of the families of the residents.

[@Kisamaism]

Ports with rail connections typically have some form of railyard. Perhaps draw in a few tracks? Otherwise stellar build for CS2

[@anddrewb1367]

I was thinking it looks like he may need a new rail depot (old one at capacity). It wouldn't be a bad place to put one near the port

[@rorytowler3464]

like this idea

[@lscf]

I'm slowly making my way through this series but I hope that a lighthouse is added near the ports at some point! :)

[@AJ-wg3kt]

I’d be interested in you bringing in dev mode/mods! Would love to learn more about how that stuff works!

[@roland.heeling]

Agreed. Watching the amout of work to get quays was painfull to see knowing it can be done with mods is seconds.

[@barny4586]

I think each port building has two ports in it, you added one shipping route from each port building but I think you can add a second one to each building (having 4 in total).

[@zitfaceable]

Hey CPP! I’m an engineer that works on ships. You would actually have a few “smokestacks” off your harbors slips backed off the water for things like a metal forge. So it’s not completely unrealistic to have that there!

[@123Jeffdude]

I'm very open to Dev Mode and anarchy/mods in this series. I think it greatly enhances the functionality of the game and can really enhance the look and realism of areas

[@mrfog9791]

Referencing the chair stream was top notch 10/10

[@Rocket-0218]

That tiny island off of one of the peninsulas looks like a great place for a lighthouse with a little bit of terraforming

[@RustyTacoTruck]

Super cool, love the build! Though if shooting for the height of realism, that rail bridge is definitely in violation of the Rivers and Harbors Act of 1899 among several others. The Coast Guard would consider that a navigable waterway and at that height, there would be no Section 9 approval for the bridge. Obviously its a game, but just comes to mind because this is a big deal for a bridge project I'm currently working on right now.

[@iain.sm.c]

Any train episode on CPP is a good episode.

[@joshc-ti6rs]

I just love the backstory and detail to everything in all the cities that we have seen been buildup from the ground up

[@plazma6038]

i think you should keep the elevated dirt area between the 4 lane road and the town! it complements the industrial look of the harbor. maybe even a quay wall would look nice there

[@andrewrichbell]

Love the build! Being a company town, I can see Clearwater Southern building schools to train the next generation of workers. (Although I'm sure they'd frame it differently) Perhaps Jamila Primary to honour the person who made the town possible. (I imagine it's too small for a high school right now) Also, considering the inspiration for the name, a high profile furniture business somewhere in the county would fit right in. I don't know how short high density commercial can be though.

[@tkpjames]

I hope you can find a way to add a lighthouse near the harbour. They're absolutely my favourite things ever. Everyone should be more lighthouse: stand tall and shine your light.

[@bleesome]

who knew that my favorite youtuber in all of all KZbin would be a city planner. These are my favorite to watch!

[@bigfatbearhouse2284]

Chairity island looks absolutely wonderful! Though it looks big enough for an elementary school.

[@14aartis]

Your song Roundabout played during the city tour is my favorite.. love hearing it throughout the videos and especially during the tour! Thanks for the episode

[@garyklyce713]

I lived in downtown Seattle a few years ago, not to far from a dock and the I-5, the views were amazing the sound pollution was maddening

[@danielw.2442]

I was part of the Chairity Stream and it was hilarious. Great vibes and even better puns. :)

[@PaulMDurandJr]

Sir, you are really good. I wish I had the mind you have when you plan out and plop down these districts and builds. As you were building the port (around the 9:50 mark), all I could think about was, "dang this guy is good!" I would have never thought to build it with the parallel roads. Its been a joy watching your channel all the way from way back in bluffside crossings, with the jacked up sound and the laptop. Good times!!

[@richardvandertulip4061]

Since that fork of the river seems to attract tornadoes, I'd imagine the locals would come up with an appropriate nickname, like the Whirling River.

[@sckraut]

That is a great idea. Both tornados have happened around the same place and they never left the river.

[@Ghiaman1334]

40:30 Pointing at the screen, at the gas station like 'oh, so *now* you decide to show up!'

[@chaos_monster]

Yes please surface painting either via mod or devmode. This should have been part of the game IMHO and it adds so much

[@nathanharris3371]

Yeah, IMO anything already in the game, just not exposed via UI, is fair game

[@willburgess1074]

The wife and I actually made popcorn to sit down and watch this together

[@MarkHoltz190]

Chairity Island, FTW! 🪑🪑🪑🪑

[@WhateverNick]

The residents of Magnolia County live in a better simulation than I do. Great work with the harbour town! I think you should use every possible advantage (dev mode or mods) to make your county as awesome as possible.

[@British_Stuff]

You should have a regional tram line that connects local estates, services and businesses with the port and make a tourist area with a small ferry terminal

[@Zanduby]

I like the idea of using dev mode/mods to update some of the looks of the city. It could also help with making custom parking areas around the new zone. Could be nice to put new parking along the track lines next to the harbors.

[@opallise]

While I DO miss the enigmatic chair, this video was much more engaging! 😁

[@JAR__]

I love the friendly rivalry between Editor Phil and Video Phil

[@brutusmayhem]

🪑love it, personally I would prefer if the quay wall merged into the harbour asset, because I think it would even better, hopefully that's a thing in the future

[@circumflex3105]

I really like the harbor build. Although I understand, how you implemented street connections to the highway and harbor part for the sake of interconnectivity, I am a bit concerned about heavy traffic and general high traffic volume through the quiet neighbourhoods as people going to the harbor might take a shortcut. Also while i like what you did with the landscaping between the harbor and the residential neighbourhood I could also imagine a cut-and-fill technique for the avenue by the harbor and using the resulting zoning space on top for low density offices kind of watching over the harbor area and buffering the sound pollution.

[@OddlySpecificGaming]

It’s a little bit mad that for a sequel there are so many workarounds still needed for stuff like this

[@patrick1227]

I live in Savannah and am thrilled you mentioned us. And Savannah is, if not America's first planned city, certainly Georgia's first planned city. A lovely downtown if you're ever in the area!

[@legojenn]

Engagement chair 🪑

[@said4075]

I love the new harbors! Maybe a nice addition could be a new taxi depot. That would bring competition to the cities taxi services, but more importantly bring the (potential) clients from all over the world coming into the city to the new harbor to make some sweat business deals and boost the local economy!

[@cranehawk]

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[@cranehawk]

Also... "knucklehead"

[@Franimus]

Great way to spruce up the build!!! For smaller cliffs/hills, I'd love to see some English ivy, clover, or bushes covering some of them. That can vary between looking very manicured and very wild, depending what you use.

[@babbaracos]

Hi! Great to see a new MC video is out!! One thing I would recommend tho is, to have both of your industry sites connected by rail to both of the harbors, since you've divided outside connections between the 2 harbors. Now the only way to go to the other outside connection is by cargo over the road to the other harbor. Otherwise great video as always!

[@morganunraveled]

phil really flexed his cities skylines infrastructure pro level skills on all of us in this episode 👏🏻 it’s crazy how far we’ve come from the struggle bus of some of those verde beach harbors and quay walls!!

[@GaryStreamed]

I remember living in Parnell, Auckland back in the day. Right across the road from Auckland Harbour. The one thing I remember was the noise caused by containers hitting each other throughout the night as they were unloaded from ships. You should look at Auckland Habour as ir is reminiscent of what you are trying to create. :D

[@SievertSchreiber]

🪑stream was great, it's now part of the lore of this channel lol! Keep up the great work Phil!

[@alistairogara]

As much as I loved watching you solve the problems that came up with making that dock, and it looks amazing! It totally baffles me that they got rid of seawalls/quay walls, it just doesn't make any sense to me. I would also put a roundabout at the end of the 4-lane road where it joins onto Hillside Street

[@dustinmartin2358]

It was so nice to take a seat and watch this video. I really enjoyed this build.

[@StudioBloomfield]

Hey Phil! I grew up in San Pedro right next to the LA Port that you used as an example for the artificial island! I think you can take some more snipe from the town of San Pedro as our port also has connection with out grand fishing village and fisheries. Our town is not just for the port but also for the fishermen too and they fishermen culture is present throughout the port too! I think Charity island could benefit from something like this and even a small private harbor could look nice! Great Work

[@jaredreinemo9934]

amazing episode!! your attention to detail is inspiring!! Thank you so much Phil!! I wanted to say that the gap between the new development and the port is practically begging for some shortcut paths. Adding them would cut the walk to work significantly and be way nicer to travel down than the arterials

[@bramusation1696]

Really loved this video again! Thank so so much for the chill vibes and the vibrant way you build your cities. Just chill to the max! 😊

[@RitwickChatterjee14]

I just cannot believe that massive rail bridge over the beautiful river front just before the open lake.

[@vafuthnicht7293]

I haven't watched any of your vids in a while, I'm only 5 minutes in and I gotta say I love the new story narrative opening you have for this! I've been keeping a lot of your city design principles in mind while playing Workers and Resources and they've been a godsend!

[@abfruits]

I've been on pause with C:S for a couple of months (IRL is busy), but I gotta be honest... this episode is making me open up a new city and do some building. I love the networking videos and this particular one is so much thoughtfulness and working through the game, it made me open up the game. Thanks!

[@WhiskeyHunterVAT69]

When building the port, not clearing the trees out is making me twitch... Thank you for the VOD, fun build. 🥃🥃

[@mgmuscari]

i don't see how anyone can look at a build like this and say they think it's a bad game. i love this new series, magnolia county is impeccable.

[@olie.vini__]

Yay you finally have a gas station (located in the new comunity of Charity Island with a green roof)!!!

[@codywilliams8337]

Loved this episode! I haven't seen a lot of people go super detailed with harbors, but I will say on getting rid of all the smokestacks, it's very common to see things like steel mills connected directly to harbors for ease of shipping cost. Can't wait for the next part! 😄

[@bevobexley4087]

Really love hearing about Jamila! And the research! Stellar quality

[@OldLordSpeedy]

Wow! A new part from Magnolia County. 🤗🥰

[@emuannihilator5774]

🪑Gotta love Chairity island! Loved the chair stream, gotta be one of the streams of all time.

[@JD-610]

🪑🪑🪑 Love the video. Happy to see the 'Chair' be immortalized. One thing though, Chairity Island doesn't have an Elementary School or Clinic. Great video as usual otherwise.

[@sleambean]

I think dev mode for detailing is completely fine - dev mode can give a lot of freedom and I think I value the build being good even if it isn't so easily replicable for everyone :) Plus dev mode isn't that inaccessible and you don't have to download obscure mods for it And thank you for the tree rotation phil :) means a lot

[@Katoho97]

I have to say, this is one of your best episodes! Love it

[@dillonfrylinck639]

Even when things don’t go… smoothly you’re still so positive All the other CS2 players can’t stop complaining but not you Phil, not you Keep being your awesome self! Love your vids

[@TheNextMarx]

These builds are so detailed, it’s amazing.

[@mattmckay8565]

Upvote for using dev mode for gas stations and land color around the port. Been a long term viewer of the channel, love the premium content. Congrats for working hard to make this yiur full time job.

[@Karma493]

Your videos are always insightful, and I'm particularly excited about the prospect of you exploring the developer mode. Whether or not it's featured in this current build, a dedicated video or tutorial showcasing your use and understanding of it would be incredibly valuable. Looking forward to it!

[@RyanThomas96]

I agree to add any mods or modes you feel! Love all your videos Phil!

[@koencooper3944]

May I suggest that your next step is to turn the empty half of charity island into a harbour city with sky scrapers and maybe even add a beach or 2

[@FrenchPeopleAreCool-Liberte]

So great to come home from work to watch your videos.

[@smoore6461]

I would use dev mode sparingly, but yeah, for concrete around the port area makes total sense! I would not go crazy with it unless you want to start going modded, but that's totally your choice and just my suggestion. Oh, but a medical clinic for sure in the Port town would be a great idea! That was a very pretty build! I like it a whole lot, i think you need some up zoning to deal with the rent to high issue. Or at least make the low density houses smaller.

[@HisingHell]

That feels like a great location for a harbor. I personally am part of the US navy and have been in and out of Naval Base Coronado many times in San Diego and having the harbor based off the island feels extremely similar even though the island of Coronado itself is man-made. I personally recommend you learn more because its a very fascinating piece of history.

[@pikukax11]

I honestly think everybody uses devmode at this point to make for the lack of freedom from the base game. I really recommend you use it like me. For very rare and specific occasions like wanting a pavement deck right by the harbour. Detailing with objects is also not in the base game, so if you use devmode for that, I'm down. On another note, It's really easy to get Gas Stations, Convenience Stores, Restaurants and Hotels with devmode, therefore you have a little bit more control on how your commerce lays out in the city ( for example you want a restaurant/caffe on the bottom of a mixed residential building ). On a further further note I really really hope but also believe that every or most of the options in the developer mode were just cut content or unfinished options that will come in the future to the base game or through DLC content ( like surfaces and objects ). I also appreciate how the you "showing your face accidentally" is just a meme you embraced and is now a canon event in the community :)