Civ 5 Shoshone Guide || The Greediest Civilization in the Game?

[@lluewhyn]

You might also want to stress getting Wonders like the Great Wall. You have HUGE borders, your units get +15% combat bonus when within your own borders, and with the Great Wall enemy units will now be limited to usually one tile per turn, allowing you to easily pick them off. Your aggressive expansion can lead to a hostile AI that will try to attack you, you easily defeat their forces, and if played right they'll negotiate for peace by offering a city, and THEY are the ones hit by the Warmongering penalty. Win-win!

[@JumboPixel]

Ooooh yes - very good call! The Great Wall is certainly one of the better wonders for The Shoshone, isn’t it! Sometimes I shy away from making wonder recommendations in these videos, particularly the early game wonders. Only reason being that on higher difficulties it’s really tough to beat the AI to early wonders because of their start bonuses.

[@predololol_]

Exactly what I needed! Love the size of the vid, short but full of info, and does not over-complicate the civ. Thanks for the vid!

[@JumboPixel]

Brilliant! Thanks for the feedback :)

[@userac-xpg]

Yesss my favorite civ in the game. I always build 2 additional pathfinders unless I'm somehow on a small piece of land. Ruin order for me is usually this 1. Upgrade, 2. Culture, 3. population from size 2 to 3 as soon as city hits size 2, 4. Upgrade new pathfinder, 5 technology after pottery is finished (so you can get a 2nd tier tech) 6 population from 4 to size 5. 7.Upgrade last pathfinder. Having 3 comp bowmen early is huge . I don't like taking pop ruin at size 1 because you grow to size 2 so quickly anyway its kind of a waste. You want to upgrade first ruin so you can get as many comp bows as possible. They are absolutely sick early game with scout movement plus still retain ability to pick ruin rewards throughout the game. Also love the territory grab, so nice to not have to buy important tiles. Thanks for the video!

[@Nr4747]

Wait, aren't you getting spearmen if you upgrade that early ? I thought you could only get archers once you have researched archery ?

[@midwestapprentice1904]

@@Nr4747 nah they actually upgrade straight to comp bowmen you don’t even need archery

[@michawozniak5492]

The proper way is pop, culture, tech/upgrade to comp bowman. The Comp Bowman has 7 meele strength, and if you get swarm by barbs it will be dead easier than pathfinder, especially on raging barbs setting. Maybe if you choose Honor it is better that way. I like to get at least 1 promotion on pathfinder to get higher defense and additional 5 HP healing. That way you can have a pretty strong comp bowman that can heal fast and is very resiliant.

[@lordyhgm9266]

I would add that this is a good strategy, however just look at how many turns you have until city growth/tech as the benefit of an extra pop or tech is much greater if you're getting it 8 turns earlier than you otherwise would. You can still move around the map with your mouse while in the selection menu as well

[@urgadurga]

i just want to say i absolutely love all these fantastic civ videos youve been releasing! i only just got into the series pretty recently with 3, then 6, and now im checking out 5 and it's quickly becoming my favorite, and your videos have really helped to increase my understanding and enjoyment of it. keep up the great work!

[@foxsimpson8140]

Man, I've been playing the Shoshone for so long when I'm playing with my friends, and they became my favourite civ so quickly!

[@JumboPixel]

They are so much fun!

[@maj.kingkong3004]

I’m starting a Shoshone game tonight! I’ve played two whole games (England and Egypt) since starting to watch you Civ V videos. Such fun. Probably get a couple more under my belt at Emperor before I try moving back up to Deity. Ive won a few Deity victories before I switched to Civ VI a couple years ago, but never was really that good. Forgotten so much.

[@magiv4205]

Thanks for reminding me to play Shoshone again! I've been on an Inca spree lately and have been absolutely shit out of luck with the ruins in every game I played, had to use much of the gold I saved through Great Andean Road to buy tiles I desperately needed. I love the Inca for their ability to snowball like crazy with terrace farms, but that takes a while to get set up. It'll be nice to not have a more predictable early game, and I can also save gold I'd otherwise probably invest in extra tiles. Don't know if I'm comfortable trying a Liberty playthrough because I ALWAYS take Tradition, but it might be worth a try. Especually since settlers will likely get delayed because the pathfinders take longer to produce than scouts.

[@jaydoe5654]

I start in the ancient era and like to get 2 pathfinders scouting and upgrade 1 to Composite bowman in a ruins upgrade. Then they clear barbarians together for a while while I settle more cities behind them and build the great wall wonder. By then usually Shaka is trying to invade and he gets crushed, maybe loses his city too.

[@markcampbell9109]

Nice video! Never considered playing with them before. Now I know how strong they are I think I will try my first immortal or diety game with them!

[@JumboPixel]

Yes!! Do give them a go, they’re so good and because they favour the early game you just might be able to keep up with the immortal-level advantages the AI has!

[@NWA-TjalfeTooStonedToAim]

I would say Zulu/Shaka is the greediest civ as he will want all the land even before hes even met you :)

[@michawozniak5492]

No Greece and Alexander is the greediest. He can be 200 hexes away (on huge map) from you and still covet your lands.

[@daxlie]

I realy like the civ 5 content!

[@Vhailor_Mithras]

This land was our land, but now it's my land~

[@SuperDiablo101]

I love this video but one problem with the Shoshone is that its size is sometimes hard to defend borders with

[@loveyoutube4696]

Thanks so much. I love civ v and I love your vids

[@JumboPixel]

Glad you like them!

[@slumberingsam]

This is the one i prefer to play with. I love how they can get composite bow man so early by upgrading in the hut. Great to play super agressive

[@JumboPixel]

They are such a fun Civ! I was really surprised when I discovered their power properly

[@Nr4747]

Wait, the Shoshone are underrated ? They're easily an S-tier civ, imho, and I thought that most people agreed.

[@jakebhaj2041]

putting in work!

[@khalidmkhan]

My first Civ 5 civilisation was The Shoshone. Totally smitten.

[@IrelandVonVicious]

Use the cultural rush to get the full liberty tree. Use the free great person as a great profit and get first religion.

[@islamic_diplomat]

Great video it would be nice play guide for Morocco 🇲🇦

[@JumboPixel]

Cheers!

[@Ratatui17]

not settling the canal city makes me angry

[@PMMagro]

Greed is good!

[@sabotage7773]

Good video for completely new players, but it actually contains a lot of mediocre advice if you really want to get good at civ 5 (e.g. picking liberty over tradition, not locking your tiles while growing cities, not explaining the tall vs wide arguments etc). The author of the channel is clearly still a novice so there is a lot of learn! Good luck

[@cm3462]

Agreed, sorry. Entertaining, but I'm not sure a lot of this advice would work on higher levels.

[@johngalt5166]

What is “locking tiles”

[@sabotage7773]

@@johngalt5166 assigning your citizens when your city population grows to the tiles the city should be working. this also includes "specialist" tiles, i.e. the ones that come from certain buildings (e.g. universities, guilds, markets, factories etc.)

[@johngalt5166]

@@sabotage7773 O so like manuely setting the pops and stuff ya that sounds smart but also like a fair amount of micro depending on how wide you play lol

[@sabotage7773]

@@johngalt5166 yes and all skilled civ5 players do that, that allows for controlled growth and gives you great advantages overall

[@Seven_Leaf]

Why would anyone underrate Shoshone? They're a solid Tier 2 Civ that FilthyRobot used to 1v5 Diety AI years ago.

[@Theslovakguy]

i am back