Civ 6 | Is Deity Too Easy? Welcome, To Deity ++ (#1 Deity ++ Rome Civilization VI)

[@UrsaRyan]

Hi all! Chipping in here to say that there night be some "booping" noise from my microphone in this video. I moved my desk around a couple of days ago and clearly my mic stand needs adjusting a bit still! Thanks for putting up with it, it will be gone soon, promise...! UR xx

[@Antidisestablismentarianism]

Rome, intentionally going through a dark age, in the Classical Era? How Ironic!

[@andrewhavrylei6333]

Would've been better if it was classical golden age and then mediveal dark age

[@Grivehn]

This video is like a regular Western Roman Empire playthrough in other games. :D

[@McCloudious]

Ursa is making this gamemode look like Prince++ ! Smashing it

[@UrsaRyan]

Cheers!!

[@craig3895]

Three spices, four cows, and Valletta first meet. This was your first roll huh? Sure, Ursa. We believe you.

[@UrsaRyan]

Phew. I was worried there

[@waheedzafar4257]

I have been playing lately with barbarians off which has been such a nice change. It sacrifices a couple boosts but the AI is also stronger and the game is so much more enjoyable.

[@gaidinxgaming7812]

that starting location is so nice - and only got better and better as the game went on.

[@UrsaRyan]

I was so lucky it's true! Fractal often can be a lot of fun

[@christopherjohnson1873]

To truly make the game harder I might recommend turning off game modes. It's a tough choice to make because they're so fun, but the more fancy mechanics there are in the game, the easier it is to create distance between yourself and the AI.

[@UrsaRyan]

it works well actually - hence why I have them off here - the AI still seems to struggle a lot with them turned on

[@Jonnysh]

new patreon thank you screen! this is the thank you++ version i believe

[@UrsaRyan]

I'm truely blessed to have the problem where we can't fit everyone on at the end, what a world

[@0_Body]

You did it! The game was just telling you that the Etemenanki is the wonder you need

[@UrsaRyan]

I finally listened and oh boy was I pleased!

[@gray_wolf1058]

I always want to laugh when I see someone playing Rome and having trouble with barbarians.

[@dashlivingston5975]

That shout-out felt so special and heartfelt. Thank you so much

[@VaporeonEnjoyer1]

I mean when you load in and the map clearly spawns you right next to a perfect Petra city, it's like Sid Meyer himself is guiding your hand.

[@SourceOfBeing]

Build the University of Sankore!

[@skyfall7110]

Out of these mods that Change difficulty it would be fun to see a video comparing them. Like deity ++ vs real strategy and breakdown pros and cons I myself find that deity has become redubdantly easy so would be good to see which difficulty increase is most recomended

[@tayloroliver46]

Love the content. Keep up the good work. I couldn’t imagine uploading a video every single day on top of handling other things so creds to you

[@SweenyMarc]

Enjoying the microphone bongos! Default religion really needs an overhaul (which I guess is a pipe dream with Civ7 in the horizon) the AI choices being so predictable is dull and often feels bad as there are so few all round good choices. There are some that I'm sure never get picked by AI or players because they're so weak and I wish they would get an official tweak rather than having to run religion mods.

[@mobrule8219]

Hey, you used my favorite move to protect city states that I desire to remain with me as suzerian. Surround the city with cheap units so opponents can not occupy them to launch an attack on the city. it works unless the AI decides to declare war on you.

[@craig3895]

Deity++: WE STEAL ALL YOUR WONDERS. Ursa: *instantly builds Etemenanki and Hanging Gardens. 🤪

[@UrsaRyan]

I literally couldn't believe it

[@BohnalexPV]

the sea city... the seaty

[@UrsaRyan]

Oh damm, that's better

[@No_research]

Great videos Ursa. Thank you so much :)

[@aidanabregov1412]

I’d like to think that whoever was building the Henge just said, _meh, I don’t feel like it_ as soon as they started!

[@bragiodinsen4604]

its crazy how easy this game is compared to civ 4. even on diety plus plus you are still playing 100 times more carefree than diety players on civ4, that game was stressful lol.

[@drjonritz]

I hope they give you a run for your money this time...

[@UrsaRyan]

Just you wait

[@iniasvissenaekens-s8v]

Great vid

[@UrsaRyan]

Ta

[@Goldberg070]

The problem with difficulty in Civ VI is that it doesn't make the AI smarter. It give the AI cheating like benefits and for me this is the biggest weakness of the game. The only way to improve the difficulty is to let the still stupid AI got into cheat mode with bonuses and with this mod the human player gets nerfed on top of that. I don't know but I don't like this kind of difficulty systems.

[@UrsaRyan]

one day the AI will be better, but until then, we make do!

[@nerabon8138]

A game within a game, every time you plop down a city, you open a map of the country / civ you're playing and you try pin it on a map.

[@UrsaRyan]

That would be fun!

[@elbonnybar]

the map is a bit rough on rome, i mean there's plenty of hills and it's good start, but the chops are kind of far and few in between, and we all know how much legionaries love chopping woods, i think you kind of have to build tall for the next era until you get some fire power to -take- , i mean *Liberate* some more land. maybe get the natural wonder besides valetta since that one gives a military unit a nice perk to recover HP faster (i mean they recover more Hit points) when they walk over the tile i think?

[@UrsaRyan]

yeah great shout - the fountain of youth is always way more interesting than I think it's going to be

[@mahadevovnl]

It's kinda sad that the AI is too dumb to not even stand a chance on "Warlord" mode. Equal playing field should be challenging, but it... really isn't. The AI is pretty damn dumb. I hope the next Civ actually has some decent machine learned AI built-in.

[@UrsaRyan]

Civ needs an AI boost, true, but hold judgement on this mod till the late game

[@eduardo3652]

Don't the Hungarians love paprika?

[@szyna8540]

Somehow those mods together broke ai making them go for so few districts that u can even claim first great scientist which is pretty much impossible normally

[@szyna8540]

Im playing now a game with just better ai mod and on turn 30 someone is already doing campus projects

[@UrsaRyan]

The AI mod does turn down the science focus a bit but the AI generally hits projects just as much - it's just not a science spam. Military and Culture play, as well as Faith, is massively helped I think (from what I've seen)

[@usurper6147]

No gamemode will be good as long as they dont interfere that "Mongolia is building Theatre Square" shit. They have to rework AI, you either die at classical era or win. i have not seen any different

[@joelpierce1453]

Why do your lake tiles look different than mine? My lakes always look darker but yours look the same as the coast.

[@UrsaRyan]

Visual mod - Vibrant Waters from memory?

[@j.ackermann9110]

I'd rather like a competent AI than the normal (incompetent) one with even more advantages...

[@UrsaRyan]

True - but we make do with what we have huh! XD

[@ambidexter2017]

Will you play with heroes, corporation and secret societies again some time?

[@UrsaRyan]

Of course! I love them, it's just the AI struggles

[@mahadevovnl]

At multiple times during this video (40:01 for example) you hear this weird "boop boop boop boop" in the background. It's really distracting and annoying :( But other than that, awesome video again

[@UrsaRyan]

See pinned comment - new set up, still working it out!

[@mahadevovnl]

@@UrsaRyan Missed it, my bad :D

[@dr.kevorkian7535]

This start is such a hot mess. You go from one thing to the next instead of sticking with the plan then get bummed out that your plan didn't work 🤦‍♂️ That's Ursa Ryan for you lol.

[@UrsaRyan]

embrace the chaos my friend

[@НикитаКудасов-ъ8л]

are you serious? I play as shaka, then you start play as shaka. I start play as troy? then youuuuuuuu

[@UrsaRyan]

*backs shiftily into hedge and disappears*

[@widgetb]

I think this mod might be broken... unless the only thing it buffed was the barbs.

[@UrsaRyan]

wait till the mid / late game = )

[@widgetb]

@@UrsaRyan Suspense! I can't wait :D

[@amanpratik5656]

Can you do a Mali game next.🙂😓

[@UrsaRyan]

Maybe...!

[@jasonarthurs3885]

All failed Wonders leave the ring of shame.

[@UrsaRyan]

I feel very much like a dog in that respect

[@Efretpkk]

imho, videos are starting to get a bit too long!!! More Ursa is good, but I don't have so much time each day for Ursa! (probably unpopular opinion)

[@DoglasBubbleTrousers]

Civ games do have a rather amount of content that is critical to the instance of the game. I’m sure it’s very difficult to make the videos 40-55 minutes as is.

[@UrsaRyan]

Hahaha - I never thought I would see people saying there was too MUCH content!!! Amazing to hear

[@smurfyjosh]

All comments lead to the algo

[@sleepysofabear]

Commentahoy for traction :)

[@UrsaRyan]

Wohoo!!

[@McAabee]

sup Ryan. how long is it taking you to finish on of these longer episodes?

[@UrsaRyan]

A while!! I love what I do though, I can't complain. Though Patreon are a godsend to help me do it..!

[@McAabee]

@@UrsaRyan lad you just made me really thinking about joining you know me I like your content 😁 just looked at your patreon and 1 pound should be your entry tier imo. I know shit but some ppl could join for just that amount. Imagine 1000 ppl go for that option and you are laughing. Dunno 🤷🏻‍♂️. I appreciate your hard work nevertheless. Thanks

[@danieljevons1283]

Hello there!

[@ИванДуда-и4с]

General Kenobi

[@UrsaRyan]

It's OVER Daniel! I have the high ground!

[@eduardo3652]

Daily comment.

[@bloedlul]

Somehow these mods seem to have made the ai worse

[@UrsaRyan]

wait till the mid / late game

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

There is no 'problem' with the Deity set as it is. People play a mode like Deity but deliberately capitalize on every exploit and then complain the AI is underpowered. Well sure, you picked the civ you wanted to match both the terrain you'd picked AND the victory conditions you wanted, and then you used all the shortcuts, beelines, and workarounds you could manage. You didn't 'beat the game on Deity', you beat yourself. Adding extra multipliers doesn't fix that problem, because the multipliers were never the problem.

[@UrsaRyan]

just trying to get my head around this - is it playing the game well you don't agree with or playing the game differently from the AI? not being abrupt, genuinely curious I stopped the joint war and diplo favour strats a few series ago btw, so fear not

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

@@UrsaRyan if you know you're going to, for example, play on deserts and you pick a civ like Mali - you've tailored your civ to the map. Caprikel (on the civfanatics forum) demonstrated years ago that if you build a desert map, play Mali, build Petra and then take control of Nazca, you've pretty much already won the game. That's nothing to do with 'playing well'. Pick a map type, shuffle the tech trees, ramp up the disasters, and randomize your civ. Then don't take advantage of the exploits like flooding for faith, or locking in low production cost districts, or slinger-tagging barbs - because those things ALSO are not 'playing well' - they're just taking advantage of the way the game works. Ramping up the multipliers doesn't make the AI any better, but once you've got the way the game works down, the multipliers are largely irrelevant anyway - it wouldn't matter if the AI started with one settler or ten if you pick a map they are bad at and you game all the mechanics. That's why I'm saying it's not about a problem with the AI. But at this level you're not really playing against the AI, especially if you're tailoring your maps and strats. You're just playing against the slight possibility that the RNG gods will turn against you.

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

@@UrsaRyan for a real quick and real simple illustration with a different game - way back in the 90s I used to play FIFA International Soccer. If you got the positioning right, you could stand your guy right in front of the other team's goal and the keeper would basically pass the ball straight to you. It was allowed in the game mechanics, but once I found out I could do it, I could basically win ANY game no matter how high my skill level, or how unbalanced the teams. I wasn't 'playing well' if I did it, but I was winning. I had to decide which mattered more to me.

[@superpoireau3551]

I get your point, players who deliberately use "exploits" or "cheesing" to beat the game can't really complain about the deity difficulty, because it is basically cheating. However there IS a real problem with the way the AI plays, so to provide a little bit of challenge they need to have ridiculous multipliers from the very start. And even then, by the mid-game, a little bit of strategy and careful planning can put you on track for basically every victory type. And you don't even have to cheese the game, tailor strategies, or whatever! I don't consider myself a very good civ player, but the last game I did? I just set-up a random civ, random map, deity, and played. It was maya on a ok start location, I didn't use any borderline method or anything, and yet by turn 200 I had the possibility to commit to 4 different victory type and was set-up for a win in any of those in 50 turns or less ! In my opinion, you shouldn't be able to dominate every aspect of a game in deity difficulty... Seriously by turn 200 I had the most science, most culture, largest military, the most works of art, and only like 8 or 9 cities that I all founded myself !!! So yeah, if I can pull that off, just by planning ahead and playing intelligently, there is a real lack of power for the AI in this game. And it is a bummer, because the core of strategy games, well, it is strategy (duh). And you should be able to lose in deity in other ways than an ancient era surprise attack from an aggressive neighbor...

[@RadishAcceptable]

IMO Diety isn't difficult "if" you go for a warmonger play. You basically can't win without doing a whole lot of war. Reason is simple... The AI is braindead when it comes to combat tactics. The hard set boosts make it virtually impossible for the player to overcome the passive boosts to anything else. I'd really like to be able to play the hardest mode of the game without cheesy exploiting the AI, to be honest. I also don't like that you basically HAVE to restart 4ish times on average to get a good spawn location...

[@UrsaRyan]

my trick for winning against the AI on deity without war is don't restart to get a good spawn location. it's the best thing I ever did to get better. learn to play the bad starts, it teaches you so much more about exploration, trade and settling mid game, as well as adapting tactics on the fly

[@aymericdordonat3598]

Traction comment

[@UrsaRyan]

Tractor reply

[@sticktkyourguns]

love your vids bro

[@UrsaRyan]

cheers! really pleased you enjoy them = )