Civic Type R vs. Elantra N: Sport Compact SHOWDOWN

[@johnss2k434]

The Elantra N is a great car for the money, the type r is a great car period!

[@f8widescat392]

N is great car for money type R is a great car but not for the money 😂

[@johnss2k434]

@ *at MSRP😆

[@f8widescat392]

@@johnss2k434 it needs like 100 more hp for it to be worth it, imo, the N is priced correctly

[@johnss2k434]

@@f8widescat392 I disagree with you on that. HP is not what makes a car good, especially a fwd car. But I will tell you that the depreciation in the R is non existent compared to the N. I drove a 21’ for 3 years and sold it for more than I paid.

[@f8widescat392]

@@johnss2k434 I mean, ultimately you buy a performance car for the “performance” right?, at that point just go with an si then lol, both great cars tho forsure

[@festeringfiestaspcmon]

As an FL5 owner, it’s one of the best vehicles I’ve driven thus far

[@urbanstrencan]

Hyundai Elantra N winner for me, the N division is doing just an amazing job. Here in Europe we have Hyundai i20N and it's just hothach perfection 😍🤟🤟🤟 Great video

[@StevenSmith-bk1hn]

as a type r owner, literally could not agree more with the n division. I literally get so excited to see the reveals and cool things they are doing. I genuinely feel like Hyundai wants to make fun cars. I love my type r with every cell inn my body but i would do some pretty crazy things to own both cars. Still trying to convince my Fiancé to buy an EN *cough cough*

[@jonttran1092]

Type R is too expensive for what it is.. you would never buy one when compared to what else you get for the money. Elantra N is priced according to its performance which is just as good as type R.. Elantra N is the smart buy

[@kobi2002]

Typer r is miles more practical than an Elantra N. The hatch alone was a seller for me. The extra price I paid will be give back in the long run if I ever get rid of it.

[@lannym]

Who would never buy one? They've already sold 30,000 + of the FL5....

[@AFatOcelot]

Couldn’t agree more. If they were evenly priced then yeah perhaps the type r for the reliability and higher quality. But as it stands, the EN is better

[@darealone1681]

LMAOO i mean me personally i would never buy an elentra. Very very unrelaible. a stupid little mod n i mean either the tranny or motor blows, waste of money. see it all the time, but yes ur right elentra is priced according to what it has and its unrelaible.

[@jakimmixon1461]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@darealone1681ngl I have no idea what you’re talking about. Engine ain’t reliable and can’t mod it?? You must be stuck in 2015 thinking these are the old Hyundai

[@mayurbhakta201]

Hyundai themselves have said the Elantra N is not a direct competitor to the Type R, but rather 8/10ths of the performance at 3/4 of the cost! That’s huge. Definitely don’t agree with the looks section - they are both boy racer looks and it’s a closer toss up. Irrespective, GREAT GREAT video! Appreciate the work you all put in!

[@bbokdoong]

I would say EN has 9/10th of the Type R's performance at 3/4 of the cost.

[@f8widescat392]

With the new lighter N it comes down to who’s the better driver tbh so I’d say 10/10 performance for 3/4 cost lmao

[@spade118]

Hyundai for a 1st effort many props! Great value proposition and great 1st effort. CTR is $10k more expensive because based off of build quality, reliability, usability, better shifting experience, styling and legacy. That is worth $10k imo.

[@boolji]

I've yet to seen anyone who can easily afford the type R, choose the Elantra N over it. Hell I've seen guys just get both. Bottom line, people get the one they can 'afford'.

[@f8widescat392]

Not true lol, the N is more appealing in many ways

[@jakimmixon1461]

I mean if you got the F it money why not go othe marked up Type R. But ppl like me want to save our money and see what other options are available

[@mikipavloski5239]

Accept that Hyundai could have made better performance for less money!!

[@kobi2002]

But they didn’t.

[@antoinewallace8698]

I love what you guys did at the end, it was fun to watch! I also wish the veloster n was still alive. I love mine!

[@agios1913]

This civic is one of the best of all time

[@z32luvr]

Honda reliability and build quality can never be overlooked. You get what you pay for and it will hold its value way better.

[@bbokdoong]

Honda reliability is better than Hyundai's. But the gap is narrower than you think. According to the Consumer report, Honda reliability is around 5th out of 30 companies, and Hyundai/Kia reliability is around 10th out of 30 companies. Plus, EN holds its value very well.

[@vjd222]

​@bbokdoong the EN does not hold its value. Can find used 2022s for 23k lol. A year older CTR (since they didn't make 22s) with similar milage is going for it's original MSRP still

[@davidpaulin]

Reliability records with the type r say otherwise so far and honda's reliability has been average for a decade now.. so unless youre sold to the brand or just a fanboy

[@vjd222]

@davidpaulin the K20 has been named the most reliable turbo engine ever produced. Its literally why the car holds its value. You're the fanboy here that has 0 clue what you're even talking about. 🤣 I've owned more Hyundais than Hondas. The CTR is my first Honda ever lmfao.

[@darealone1681]

@@bbokdoong lmao bro sorry to tell you, Youre wrong, Elantras are extemly unrelaible. I mean a small stupid mod and trans or motor blows… i see it all the time

[@bcvijasiu]

The value has to take into consideration future resale I would think. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Motor1]

Fair point! In which case, the rock-paper-scissors champion, the Civic Type R, would still be the winner in our eyes. Thanks for watching!

[@bcvijasiu]

@@Motor1 it was a great video You guys usually put out good videos Keep up the great work 👍🏼

[@vjd222]

Great comparison! I've owned both cars and you really can't go wrong with either. The Hyundai's driving dynamics are fantastic and it has the best sounding stock exhaust on any 4 cyl. The interior is just so cheap in comparison and the resale is rough. It ultimately becomes the more expensive of the two out-of-pocket with resale factored in. The CTR is a more enjoyable and usable daily for me. Seats are way more comfortable and you can't beat the practicality of the hatch. You feel like you're overall getting what you pay for with both and neither are a bad choice

[@Symphoniics]

Only thing I’ll disagree on is the “ultimately more expensive” part regarding the N. Most resources that crunch the data for longterm ownership costs indicate the Type R to be more expensive.

[@vjd222]

@Symphoniics nah. Every service has been less expensive than it was in the Elantra. But I'm more referencing the big hit on resale value you take with Hyundai. Type Rs practically increase their value over time

[@Symphoniics]

@@vjd222 You can Google it man. Elantra N has cheaper longterm ownership costs. It is what it is. Plus, resale value should not be a major factor when buying a car. One accident and that resale value goes down, maybe the car gets totaled and insurance lowballs, etc. Smarter to buy the EN and put the difference in the stock market and you’ll get way better returns.

[@vjd222]

@@Symphoniics Why would I Google something if I have owned and paid for both? I know from my own actual experience lol. My last oil change that I paid for through Hyundai was $120. My last oil change in the Type R through Honda was $73. Nobody said resale was a major factor either, but on AVERAGE the EN takes a huge loss financially. In 2 years you've already lost the price difference between the two. Then you're out all that money you could be investing in the stock market when you buy your next car. But also, unless you're paying for the car in full you aren't losing out on that 10k in one chunk either, so that argument falls pretty flat. I've done well with my investing, but I also know how easy it is to lose in that game as well.

[@Symphoniics]

@@vjd222 Lmao the EN gets free/complimentary oil changes so idk why you were paying for yours. If you own either car for 10 years, the upfront savings of the EN will have time to mature in the stock market and the depreciation will have flattened out. I put $12k down on my EN but I would’ve had to put more down on the CTR to get the payment I wanted. So yeah… The savings still matter if you finance. Most people will put some kind of down payment. Plus, loans are typically 5-7 years which is still less than 10. So no, that argument does not fall flat. If you put that money into VTI (tracks the whole US stock market), you’ll be pretty safe. Plus, stock market crashes are only temporary unlike car depreciation. You might have to wait 25 years for the Type R to appreciate again but that’s just irrelevant for this conversation.

[@NvSrAgE679]

So what I got from this is, buy the FK8 2020 or 2021. No rear brake vectoring. Faster than the FL5. Integrated infotainment. Absolutely perfectly damped suspension before it got too stiff on the FL5. Comes with 245’s for some extra rear end happiness but can also fit 265’s all around. Which still has lots of lift off oversteer when driving it faster enough Mr dynamic driving guy. And even if you’re not as big on the over styling of the FK8 it still looks WAY BETTER than the Elantra N.

[@ROVA00]

The fk8 is slightly faster acceleration due to the gearing. The fl5 is faster on top end. The biggest thing about the FL5 over the FK8 is the individual mode. This alone is an entire reason to get the FL5. You can have the engine in R+ mode while still having the suspension in comfort. Plus, you can do what I did and swap the adaptive suspension module for the one in the Type S and have even softer ride. Now my car has amazing ride quality while still having the engine and steering in R+ mode. The FL5 is better than the Fk8 in almost every way except maybe if you like the looks of it better. I personally think the Fl5 looks 10x better so for me there is nothing in the FK8 that is better .

[@justinschultz4325]

Great comparison! All points are valid. If I was in the market for a spicy compact, I think I'd buy a low mileage Veloster N.

[@Redmongoose-rdm]

I love the type-R, but brake vectoring sucks. I never liked that kind of system.

[@NvSrAgE679]

@@Redmongoose-rdm the FK8 doesn’t have that problem. Buy a 2020 or 2021.

[@amm5890]

I was cross shopping these two cars in early 2024. The Elantra is an incredible value and an awesome car. Ultimately I went with the FL5. I got it for MSRP and even though it’s 10k more, It’s the better car. Some things I considered that made up that 10k for me were - Wide body (and looks in general), brembos, better gear box, proven K20 engine, interior construction/touch point quality, pedigree, suspension geometry, power, and just like the last point in the video, which would you rather be seen in?

[@vjd222]

💯

[@kobi2002]

💯

[@NickysYT]

Trust me nobody cares about what car you're seen in like that, unless they're stuck up.

[@f8widescat392]

@@NickysYTor unless you’re 19 years old 😂 like grow up fr, a civic is nothing to brag about

[@jakimmixon1461]

@@f8widescat392fr that shit is annoying. The real ones know that crazy mods will reign supreme over a damn Type R. I could care less about the car

[@TopGear759]

Cyber Grey N what I bought. Love it.

[@Jorge_Magallon]

Cool video. I am a little surprised you all didn’t compare the sound. Still, good job.

[@ianweiner8430]

Coming from an Elantra N owner who has driven CTRs and an ITS, all 3 are great cars but value the EN is the best, the sheer fact that the CTR is almost 50k without markups and the ITS is damn near 60k is insane due to the cars you can get for that amount of money. The EN is in my opinion the Neon SRT4 of this era

[@ROVA00]

What brand new cars can you get for the same price that have both high performance driving dynamics and also the practicality of large cargo space and spacious back seats?

[@mubirudenis809]

Civic type r all day long

[@kobi2002]

💯

[@bcvijasiu]

I get everyone has their own preference, but Elantra looks ugly.

[@Motor1]

The front end is certainly an...acquired taste.

[@bcvijasiu]

@@Motor1 side too

[@AFatOcelot]

Elantra n all day every day. 10 grand less and it sounds 10x better? EN ALL DAY. Plus the interior is much more premium on the EN

[@djs18]

Better engine, better clutch, better transmission, and better reputation, I’ll take the civic type R any day.

[@Symphoniics]

Better exhaust, better infotainment, better price, better warranty. I’ll take the Elantra N any day. Or should I say N-y day? 😆

[@Jesse-x4o]

​@@SymphoniicsThis argument is beat to death there is no better FWD car. Type R is him.

[@Symphoniics]

@@Jesse-x4o Type R is the best overall but the N’s exhaust and infotainment won me over during the test drives.

[@dnice362]

Better price better infotainment better warranty better bang for your buck and faster. I’ll take the N. What he said

[@dnice362]

For the money of a fwd civic you’d be a fool not to take a golf r over the civic

[@KirkAnderson-h5p]

Conclusion," which one would I rather be seen in.". Obviously, the Type R.

[@scotturich]

Sorry the Helical diff lets the car rotate more also having driven both cars the Type R has a tremendous amount of lift off oversteer vs the N. The N is about 92% of the Type R everywhere. If you aren’t taking them to an Autocross or Track day. Go with the N. If you want every 10th of a second you go with the Type R

[@kobi2002]

N looks and feels cheap as hell bro. It does perform I get it. But the looks and the feel.🤮

[@pedrorivera2308]

Type R Baby !!!

[@ArcticN]

honestly after owning a veloster N for a while personally the thing that does it for me is 0 to 60 id rather have a ioniq 5 n after now owning a 2006 lexus is350 i cant ever go back to fwd

[@Motorlytics]

As someone who recently bought a 2025 Hyundai Elantra N and has had many Hyundai and Kia products. Including genesis. I chose the Elantra N for the screen and it came in an auto. I don’t need a manual for my daily. Been there done that. Hated driving a manual everyday in back to back traffic. Then I have other cars for the race cars. Like a m3 or something else crazy. I would have definitely chose the Honda for the aftermarket support if it was automatic. That’s it, but either way I would have leased it so longevity wise Idc. I honestly don’t care about buying a 300hp hot hatch and putting thousands in it to run it against more expense cars. Buy the car for what it’s for and enjoy it how it is and keep the reliability of them that mods take away.

[@PercyTP5161]

Hyundai are doing great things these days, but would buy the Honda just purely due to my bias......the heritage and pedigree. Not a rational decision:)

[@johnweimer3249]

You’re out of your mind, that was a brain dead review. Plus that really stupid speed up around the mountain outside view was ridiculous.

[@locat4972]

Great video. Both cars are amazing. Kudos to Hyundai. Honda Type R, brings heritage and performance. I owned both which made me smile. Mark up is the only issue with the Type R. In the end, you buy want you want and can afford. You’ll have fun with some practicality with either !!!

[@commonduck10]

Why she is wearing leggings? Professionalism isn’t the same….

[@freshMila]

I wish Elantra N give us 300 hp + people will forget about type R

[@ROVA00]

Nah. There is a LOT more to a good car than horsepower and 0-60 times.

[@pereldh5741]

Tight pants isn’t always a great idea.

[@AFatOcelot]

Omg that’s rough dude 😅she doesn’t look that bad!!

[@stayphun6188]

In this case it was just perfect to wear them 👌

[@ROVA00]

That’s fucked up dude.

[@ROVA00]

What a douchebag thing to say.

[@NickysYT]

Totally wrong calling the EN bad looking

[@ROVA00]

Looks are subjective. I personally find it pretty ugly but I accept others might like it.

[@Jesse.George]

I considered trading in my 2019 civic type R to lower the payment but considering I already have PRL intake, BOV, mishimoto intercooler, GReddy exhaust and a Cobb Tuner. I would be kinda losing money doing that. Hyundai is a knock off Honda anyways. I had a 2008 civic si manual went to a Kia Forte Koup manual and it just felt like I had a knock off. I would assume after having a Type R that the Elantra N would be the knock off type R. But I paid 40 grand for a used type R. Could get a brand new Elantra N for 35k.

[@wiredspeaker5658]

I almost pulled the trigger on the N until I tested a Civic Sport Touring. Wow! As a fun daily driver that car is underrated. Certainly not as exciting as N or CTR but still a hoot. The 550 mile range never gets old

[@Jesse.George]

I love the FK8

[@a124as]

TYpe R All day...especially the day you decide to sell it. Value will always stay high on any CTR

[@Zhandos18]

Elantra win even on track while typer Get overheat

[@opadilla123]

I had both , honda price has no justice to the price elantra N is i would in the same league the new TCR thats coming out with better brakes and tune should even get closer to the type r , i have both tuned and i would say they are just the same , also these N engine are holding up very well with 400hp

[@opadilla123]

Honde did F,up the mean racing look of the type r truth is it doesn’t look much different than the SI

[@muhammedbappa7560]

Type r is more charismatic than the elentra N

[@velocityvibezzz]

7:40 not sure what this gal is talking about. Never had to "give it more gas".

[@vjd222]

She's talking about in comparison. The Honda has anti stall tech that will automatically give it just enough gas to pull it along. It's pretty hard to stall it. Like if I roll up to a stop sign in second it will start pulling itself as soon as I let off the brake to not stall. The biggest complaint I had about the EN was how easy it was to stall. Every single person that got in mine stalled it the first time they drove it

[@freshMila]

Hahaha her fit so light

[@darealone1681]

15:00 this guy is insane

[@gibson2623]

Neither Elantra nor Hyundai have 1/10th of the pedigree of Honda.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Built quality shifter residual value engine reliability type r wins

[@davothegreat9990]

Ctr isn't a 10k better car. Overpriced and sounds like a washing machine.

[@vjd222]

@@davothegreat9990 Every comparison has basically said it was, since it's won every single one. And as an owner of both, I can say that it absolutely is. Unless your only measurement of a cars value are acceleration and track times. The EN is the basic Elantra body with different parts painted to differentiate them. The CTR has a completely different body than the civic aside from the roof and driver doors. Brembo's, way higher quality build/materials, way more advanced suspension, and interior, wider wheels and tires, more power, legendary reliability of the K20, resale value, adaptive cruise control, etc. If Hyundai just did these things to the Elantra you would be paying close to, if not the same price. Both cars feel like exactly what they cost. Hyundai nailed the drive of the Elantra, but the cost savings are very apparent in every other measure.

[@davothegreat9990]

@vjd222 the Elantra has more features/technology, drive mode customization, and a WAY BETTER EXHAUST. I’d buy it just for the exhaust. Don't forget the En has a physical handbrake. Therefore no the fl5 isn't a 10k better car.

[@vjd222]

@davothegreat9990 no.. it doesn't. Does the EN have adaptive cruise control and anti stall tech? Def doesn't have nearly the advanced suspension as the CTR either. The drive mode customizations are exactly the same, but the difference from Comfort to +R is way more dramatic than comfort to N. You literally think that an exhaust sound and a physical handbrake determine the value of a car. I'm dying. Does the EN have a wide body kit? Brembos? No. Nor does the quality of any other part on the EN match up to the civic's. Funny that you called someone a honda fan boy when you're just as delusional 🤣

[@davothegreat9990]

@vjd222 By tech/features I meant heated seats, digital key, sunroof, optional DCT, leather/Alcantara instead of “Suede-Effect Fabric” that Honda claims, etc. Imagine saying no adaptive cruise control is a deal breaker on an enthusiast SPORTS SEDAN. The shifter/clutch/etc are all a bit better. For most people though, it’s probably not 35% better when comparing prices. Definitely not like the Elantra and shifter/clutch/etc is bad or anything. Mate, you're pic says it all. 🙄

[@chappy3125]

Elantra for me

[@senorgato70]

Type R or Integra Type-S any day easily.

[@f8widescat392]

A lot of Type R owners coping in the comments 😂

[@LanceCorporal_Waffles]

17:53 So what do we call a Hot Sedan? The "Hot Dan"? a "Hot Damn"? The Elantra N would be a "Hot daN"?

[@Eskimo-e2x]

In my eyes Elantra's are really ugly cars. So, only option is the Type R.

[@altusheyns9620]

The Type R is way better build, better quality and superb engineering! The Elantra is cheaper, because it is cheaply build. And it is such an ugly looking car..

[@davothegreat9990]

Elantra sounds great. Ctr sounds like crap. Over priced for what it is.

[@itsmarco5452]

The Elantra doesn’t have overheating issues in the track unlike the type r, I don’t think it’s as cheaply built

[@davidpaulin]

Funniest joke ive seen today.. the type r is just as cheaply built as a normal civic

[@hihihihihihihihihi]

シビックをヒュンダイなんかと比べないで欲しい😡

[@제발좀잘생각해봐]

어이 일본인! 혼다 명성은 유명하고 , 잘알고 있다.. TYPE R이 전륜 최강인걸 또한 알고 하지만 현대자동차그룹 또한 진보하고 있다는걸 깨닫길..

[@cupertinoish]

I'm sorry but the Elantra is too ugly.

[@ericholmburg532]

From the audience standpoint I have to say the spoiler on the type r looks like something found on temu. While the entire elantra looks like something you'd see on temu or the type r your mother says you already have at home: My opinion is you definitely get what you pay for in this instance. And to settle the winner over a game of rock paper scissors? That's what the track is for! With all due respect you seemed to have nailed everything on the head when it comes to the pros/cons and differences. No one's honestly going to know until they take the reigns of the two into their own hands. GREAT VIDEO 👍 Many thanks.

[@Veterans-e2c]

If you can get a type R at msrp! Type R all day. I picked up a 2025 sonic grey type R for 3k under msrp. Hold the line do not pay over msrp for either car! Elantra Ns are marked up too.

[@bryantpck8]

Almost as fast, almost as powerful and almost as expensive. The word is almost. 😜😜😜

[@rexandninja]

It’s a Hyundai. There’s a reason why it’s cheaper.

[@KN-jw7ts]

I’ll take the GR Corolla!

[@kobi2002]

It’s better than the Elantra for sure.

[@arctictruck10]

Manual transmissions are lame

[@ef1631]

Says the people who can't operate them.

[@arctictruck10]

@ef1631 thing that people that don't have an iq above room temperature say

[@arctictruck10]

@ef1631 your comment is like a non used turn signal on a BMW

[@ef1631]

@@arctictruck10 enjoy your slushbox

[@arctictruck10]

@ef1631 is that what you say to owners of a PDK?

[@LeafsNation2000]

How much did they get paid to endorse Hyundai? Come on. Yeah, you pay 10k more but you get more overall. Key word. Overall. Go ahead and enjoy that N engine and see if it lasts. Ridiculous. I feel like these reviewers just say this shit to stir things up...

[@Symphoniics]

I found the Honda fanboy

[@altusheyns9620]

I agree

[@kobi2002]

@@Symphoniicslike the Hyundai fan boys aren’t out? Lmao.

[@Symphoniics]

@@kobi2002 The Hyundai fanboys don’t instigate hate. Hyundai fanboys appreciate the significance of the Civic Type R. Honda fanboys don’t appreciate the Elantra N and instead instigate senseless hate and elitism

[@kobi2002]

@@Symphoniicsthe internet says otherwise..🤷🏽‍♂️

[@brettsuddreth5171]

The Elantra N will depreciate greatly whereas the type r will hold its value much better so I disagree on the N being a better buy. Long term you’d come out the type r better

[@jakimmixon1461]

Ngl if I’m going to buy a car the last thing I want to think about is how much resale value it’s gonna get. At some point every car is gonna depreciate at times (depending on rarity and how delusional the hype market is). Just find something reliable and fun, that’s it

[@kobi2002]

@@jakimmixon1461cars I said I’d keep I sold and some I got crap resale and others I came out ok. This won’t be your last car. It would be nice to get something in the backend when its usefulness is not so useful. It’s definitely not delusional.🤦🏽‍♂️

[@brettsuddreth5171]

@@jakimmixon1461 your point neither adds or takes away from what I said. You said reliable and fun, which in this case would be the type r and you won’t lose as much owning the type r. So again I don’t see your point but thanks for wasting my time.