Civil Forfeiture: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

[@notbobby125]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! New Mexico just passed a bill ending Civil Forfeiture in the state! 1 down, 49 to go.

[@Ragan31687]

I was very tempted to make a Breaking Bad joke here.

[@johnathonbrady3837]

notbobby125 Oregon never had civil forfeiture laws.

[@notbobby125]

Johnathon Brady Alright, 1 down, 1 never came up, 48 to go.

[@Thorntonian]

notbobby125 Wow, this is going quickly.

[@ZoanBlade90]

It's a start.

[@IPConfigskillz]

This happened to me. I had enrolled in college classes at a local Junior College. Signed up for Financial Aid and was awarded money to pay for my schooling. I had this money on my person when I was pulled over in my girlfriends very old pos car. I was not arrested, not even suspected of a crime. Not charged at a later date, nothing. I was pulled over, pulled out of my car, searched, money confiscated, and released. Heard nothing afterwards. I tried to get the money back and was given a runaround story. I never did get that money, and because I could not afford to pay for my schooling because of the forfeiture, I could not attend school for that quarter. Not only that, but the because I didn't go to school, the government suspended my ability to have financial aid. Essentially, I was robbed by the government of money that was awarded to me by the government, and not allowed to attend college because of it. And for no reason at all.

[@mbulelozulu7963]

Nosce Te Ipsum. AMERICA HAS BECOME A POLICE STATE

[@Poldovico]

Of course there was a reason. Margarita machine, remember? Fucking liberals with their fucking college bullshit. /s

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@mbulelozulu7963 a banana republic.

[@tommyg3201]

Nosce Te Ipsum blah blah blah......crimes deserve punishment! Go to school to learn

[@gregfalco4528]

@@Poldovico To be fair, it was a pretty sweet industrial margarita machine.

[@carlosbaldellou]

I've looked up about civil forfeiture and i'm ashamed of you, John. Why didn't you iclude united states vs one tyrannosaurus bataar skeleton?

[@Leo-lr6rj]

lol

[@voogru]

+carlosbaldellou Can't get them all.

[@faerieofskye]

You have to if you want to be the very best.....that no one ever was!!

[@Leo-lr6rj]

Fae Summers Rofl

[@phillip_mcguinness7025]

To catch them is your favorite test?

[@brianmcintyre6132]

Canadian long haul truckers are warned not to carry large amounts of cash when going to America because the police will rip you off.

[@petrusromanus4647]

You will get robbed

[@pamelaporter1739]

Brian McIntyre, that's a shame and embarrassing.

[@miceatah9359]

@@pamelaporter1739 and also not true lol

[@cam_p_bells]

mic eatah very true.

[@Kitajima2]

@@miceatah9359 My cousin drives trucks for G&Z Transport (oil and gas). Truck stops offer discounts for cash, but he was robbed by policemen in Texas. You know nothing

[@ctrain149]

"Common people do not carry that much US currency" So then he was an uncommon person. How is that proof of guilt?

[@mr.ferncluster2866]

Actual Wonder: 4:20 How?!?!? - The Ancient Romans had laws against this!!

[@dowskivisionmagicaloracle8593]

So what's up America? You have a constitution which expressly allows you to own a gun in order to prevent EXACTLY this sort of government tyranny. So where are the news headlines that these thugs being accused of treason and summarily executed? Oh I see, normal people in [current year] don't use guns to uphold justice, guns are only tools for lunatics to shoot up schools or for crazed Hillary Clinton supporters to shoot Republican candidates.

[@thissitesgay]

@@omi_god What? how are you this misinformed while on the internet? that is the exact reason for the 2nd amendment. To preserve state power and to fight against a tyrannical federal government.

[@rekt4guud134]

you are wrong there mate. at first it was thought militias should defend the land, and that federal governement should only be allowed to raise an army in time of war, but militias were unsuccessful against the british so they passed laws to allow federal government to raise and maintain an army, even in times of peace. the main reason for the 2nd amendment was to prevent the federal government from under funding militias, do you understand what this even means? or why would the militias fear being underfunded if there is a federal army? this law exists, on part for defense against foreign enemies but also to prevent the federal government from raising an army and oppress its people. get a clue before you call other ignorant.

[@rekt4guud134]

@@omi_god if you dont understand why the wording was made this way its ur own problem. just know that makes you the ignorant one.

[@IMSiegfried]

The state of Florida just passed a bill to make civil asset forfeiture illegal! Yay!

[@Decenium]

the day we need to praise Florida...the world really is coming to an end

[@IMSiegfried]

Lol!

[@iron1349]

But that's only Florida.

[@IMSiegfried]

yes.....and every individual has the right to talk to their city council and local reps where many new regulations get their start. And the way has been paved because of Florida and New Mexico.

[@deathpyre42]

Wait, Florida did something reasonable? Oh crap the world is ending.

[@cbdsw]

The Canadian Government has issued a travel warning to people traveling to the US regarding this very thing. I never thought I would see the day the US would have the same travel warnings as third world countries.

[@akeylawallace4420]

Well Damn

[@Sumaxi]

No they haven't, I checked it on travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states You might be thinking of New Zealand?

[@cbdsw]

Sumaxi Sorry I miss read the article ( www.cbc.ca/news/world/american-shakedown-police-won-t-charge-you-but-they-ll-grab-your-money-1.2760736 ) They do say to be careful though.

[@Sumaxi]

cbdsw oh wow, yeah I did read through the article and it basically restates everything that the video does -- nice find!

[@emeraldkat2167]

Well, you should realize that when the US has a healthcare system rated lower than quite a few third world countries and a system setup to take more money the poorer you are, this kind of thing is a pretty obvious thing to go hand in hand with all that. The US has quite simply become the nation of worshipping capitalism to the point where greed is an acceptable addiction, and treating people humanely or in any kind of respectful way has been seen as being a leftist liberal communist... Its honestly depressing.

[@colintimp1372]

One of the most disgusting examples recently was a young woman who was the victim of sexual abuse. She was awarded a civil judgement of about $74,000 after her abuser won $75,000 in the lottery. However before she could collect the money, police raided the man's house, where he had the cash. They seized the money and are refusing to give it to the victim.

[@SvenTviking]

I think the judge will have something to say about that.

[@Hemostat]

​@@SvenTvikingthey'll prob just high five the cops

[@jeffrowisdabest]

I have a feeling the person from whom they took the money has connections to law enforcement. He'll get the money back when the police claim they spent it on a zamboni that doesn't seem to exist.

[@jp6234]

@@SvenTviking It would not be surprising if the judge got his share of Policing for Profit!

[@DopeyDetector]

So dopey and childish ​@@SvenTviking

[@andyk4621]

the amount of fucketry that JO has exposed to me about this country is fucking mind blowing.

[@ChristopherWeaver1]

Imagine if he covered other countries. America cant be the only country with buried dirt.

[@TheGlassAddiction]

But Christopher, it's the fact that America as a country is built up on the concept that it's NOT like "those other countries" He's not living in "those other countries". HE's living in America. And it is a HUGE issue.

[@ChristopherWeaver1]

That doesn't mean he cant cover other countries. More.

[@TheGlassAddiction]

Christopher Weaver That's not what his show is about. If you thought it was you missed the entire concept of it

[@Gunman610]

If he covered other countries, I'll guarantee that he'd have less viewers. That being said, there's something to be said for cleaning our own house before we judge others.

[@averyfluet4406]

This video was just referenced in a Nevada case presented by Nevada Senator Don Gustavson in an effort to change civil forfeiture laws, this is becoming a trend in the western states with Utah recently outlawing civil forfeiture outright

[@averyfluet4406]

www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/nevada/nevada-lawmaker-wants-change-civil-forfeiture-rules

[@averyfluet4406]

www.forbes.com/sites/instituteforjustice/2017/03/31/not-guilty-verdicts-will-now-protect-people-from-civil-forfeiture-in-utah-unlike-almost-40-states/#6b0199e04dfa

[@user-by7hj4dj9s]

That is great (old)news, this practice seems alien and wrong on every level.

[@--enyo--]

I love hearing how these issues progress. Thanks for sharing. :)

[@MrLiquidxIce]

MOVING TO UTAH

[@axeman2638]

So inanimate objects can be charged with crimes by fictional entities for imaginary crimes that effect nobody? satire is useless at this point.

[@RantTherapist]

Nicely put. Pretty much exactly.

[@NathanTAK]

*affect

[@okramoffacebook1381]

Corporations are laughing

[@Erin-Thor]

Axe Man - "That effect nobody?" Get a clue bud. Someone owned everything taken, every item an individual paid for.

[@some-one-else]

Erin Thorkildsen Op was saying that the crimes supposedly committed by those objects didn't effect anyone because they didn't actually happen. Not that the forfeiture didn't.

[@crazyartmichael]

I've been asked if I had any money on me several times by police. I always respond in the negative. Never carry cash with you if you can avoid it, because if they take it you will never get it back. Even trying to get it back will get the police harassing you. I went to a party once and was confronted by the hosts uncle. He was a veteran police officer. He saw I had an antique pocket knife on me, and decided he wanted it. First he told me it was illegal and that I had to hand it in to him. I corrected him and let him know it was perfectly legal. Next he said I was in the wrong and that if I didn't give it to him he would arrest me and make up charges. We got into a heated argument and I ended up literally grabbing my wife and hastily leaving before he could steal from me. He was literally on the phone as I was leaving calling his police friends to see if they could come help him steal from me. This is all allowed in their mind set. They see themselves as right in all scenarios.

[@frankt9156]

They can charge you with obstruction of justice if you lie to them.

[@mechengr1731]

@@frankt9156 well that's why he said never carry cash on you if you can help it.

[@greenmonster9913]

@@mechengr1731 Or just don't answer police questions. You get pulled over, you give them your license & proof of insurance, & tell them you don't answer questions, as is your right under the 5th Amendment

[@brutusmaximus5380]

Just sue the police under the Hobbs Act codified in 18 USC § 1951. The term “extortion” means the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right. The operant phrase is "color of official right". So just because the state makes civil forfeiture legal doesn't make it right under federal law. Some federal agencies help the states out by saying their state operation falls under a federal agency program.. such as DEA... Yea right sue the DEA under the Hobbs act also. You want to sue the state and/or the federal agency at the Federal level that way it goes to the Supreme Court after a few appeals.

[@DazednConfused0]

the cop that stole the 20k from the guy who was going to buy a car should be fired for incompetence.

[@alexkorman1163]

Don’t worry. They investigated themselves and determined they did nothing wrong.

[@petros_adamopoulos]

He's very competent. Enforces the law to the letter. If laws allow you to rob, then do the legal thing.

[@Gaius__]

He should not only be dismissed but also indicted for extortion. And then serve the full sentence. Murica is such a shithole, a literal Third World country.

[@kathryngeeslin9509]

Instead he'll be rewarded for productivity. He took the money not for himself (though he have claimed much of it, he obviously had no problem falsifying reports) but for his department. A hero.

[@jamesdmack]

"After Reby filed an appeal, and after NewsChannel 5 began investigating, the state agreed to return his money -- if he'd sign a statement waiving his constitutional rights and promising not to sue. They also made him come all the way from New Jersey, back to Monterey to pick up a check."

[@ianbattles7290]

What's the difference between a cop and a criminal? It's legal to defend yourself when a criminal robs you.

[@abbiaca-3288]

And criminals are much more polite

[@lesliewhite6832]

Blue Life They also have better dress codes too. (One grows tired of semi-military uniforms.)

[@Ticklemetwink]

Blue Life Nowadays the chance to get shot by a criminal is also lower than with an "officer of the law"

[@thehikerboy1]

Ian Battles Depends on what state you're in.

[@Justmynewaccount]

Ian Battles The cop wears a uniform

[@TheLunarLegend]

"I've concluded this money was going to be used in a crime." Are you profiling my cash? I suppose ALL cash looks the same to SOME people. YOU MAKE ME SICK!

[@cheekypasta55]

TheLunarLegend Guess they are reverting to playing the.....cash card. I'll see myself out.

[@TheLunarLegend]

soccerlover1598 that joke made no... cents Hold the door right behind ya

[@gigabic7487]

This place is empty since you all got out. I claim it.

[@modernlacuna]

+Gigabic I charge the place with civil unrest. It is now mine.

[@timweatherill3738]

+AndroZeus Perhaps I should just lay claim to Facebook, or KZbin? How about Apple? It's an appalling law.

[@longQ1551]

We need cop dramas that expose shady police activity

[@GordisCharca]

Well "Cops" is canceled so we can have "Cops but for Cops" now. Great idea

[@Forestfreud]

Yeah I watch a lot of law and order because it doesn’t require a lot of thinking and I’ve been struck so profoundly lately by how often they paint internal affairs investigators as the villains. They’re CONSTANTLY bitching about IAB even after they’ve literally just shot a citizen. It’s straight propaganda.

[@fredyscanlan]

virginia smith correctomundo. US government subsidises movie and tv if they portray people a certain way. Ie if you have a drug user in the film and they are a loser, you play less tax. If they’re a drug user and not a loser you don’t get that particular subsidy. You are being mentally manipulated everywhere:(

[@SisterKnight]

@@GordisCharca ...nope its back, they canceled it for PR and brought it back.

[@GordisCharca]

@@SisterKnight of course they did. Im sure they will learn nothing going forward as well.

[@therealkbrackson]

i reported an assault that happened a month ago, and then i didn't move forward with pressing charges. however, they took my phone, my clothes, my car for "evidence" and i still have not gotten anything back, they've told me to "go to court" even though the court self help doesn't know which remedy i should seek. so this piece stings, a lot.

[@gizmono2869]

did you get your stuff back ?

[@Poldovico]

... One time I read that some people in the US take the attitude that if their home gets invaded they should kill the invader and then call the police non-emergency line. At the time, it sounded preposterous. The more I learn about what the US is actually like, the more that line makes sense to me.

[@onkelpappkov2666]

So, Miss, what you're telling me is that you neither have any weapons to defend yourself with nor the physical ability to defeat a man of my size? Mmh... how much money do you have on you? Is that ring on your left hand worth anything?

[@vinnievalentine421]

I had cops seize my stuff and not give it back till I took them to court. Then they gave it back.

[@3Rayfire]

Your clothes? Did he just want to see you naked?

[@dustineng1]

"When injustice becomes law, Resistance becomes Duty" -Thomas Jefferson

[@OlivePapyrus]

Wow. I'm gonna use this.

[@GHustle4]

Yeah sounds good and how much of a resistance has been done by americans...??

[@briangriffin5359]

America is finished - George Carlin

[@Pissoff56]

GHustle4 well we haven’t tried shooting these assholes yet

[@MrAnimason]

@@briangriffin5359 Fuck that guy.

[@fatfishwen2332]

You know, we have an old saying in Chinese roughly means "policemen and gangsters are in a same family". I used to think that it is only true in my country, but it seems like this sentence is basic truth for most civilizations on this planet now.

[@CrabTastingMan]

*Not in Europe.* Europeans cops refuse to do anything unless they have absolutely damning evidence. And would rather wait for a warrant to do anything. To the point where sometimes it's letting criminals from Eastern Europe get away with a lot of things before anyone could apprehend them.

[@fatfishwen2332]

WOW! If that is true, I really feel so happy for European people and so sorry for us...

[@khoiduongminh5111]

also true in my country.

[@vinnievalentine421]

This is just in America. This doesn't even come close to anything that's in Europe or Russia. America is the dictator gangster of the world

[@elik.webber7630]

Yep when someone exposes criminals in Gov. then the criminals in Gov. ect make the person who exposed them as a criminals , then we are ruled by criminals . period .

[@AFN2750]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it the responsibility of an establishment to get a license to sell alcohol, not the people consuming it? When I go to a French restaurant, I don’t ask for their liquor license

[@JokeCubed]

I don't know how it works in the US, but over here, part of getting the liquor licence involves having everyone trained and checking ID's, so if the restaurant serves alcohol to someone who is underage, that is a violation of the liquor licence. So the police could've said "We raided that art gallery because we had reasonable belief that they were serving alcohol to minors."

[@tekbarrier]

"I'm seizing your money because I think you were on your way to buy drugs" There's no possible way to prove you weren't!

[@leland-bobpalmer4274]

Yes there is= have the employer you were meeting call & vouch, Or have your drug dealer say you canceled lol SADLY police can just shoot you & ditch your body ANYWAY ALL DAY. honestly most police reports I have read, are 70% made up excuses for their abuses of power & barely shreds of truth involved

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Now the police are the criminals. Say nothing, but cooperate with all other reasonable requests. Actually you have no defense from being robbed if they decide to rob you. After they send you on your way tell your story on youtube with a bag over your head.

[@MrLTLB]

Yeah there is...by stating where you are going and No Cop can just jump Assumptions like that!

[@crazyfakar1]

"no possible way" doesn't gel with me. Surgically implanted surveillance and transmitting devices. Show them on your mobile phone what you have been doing in the leadup to getting stopped and that they are being recorded and transmitted for your own protection. Maybe one doesn't have to go so far?

[@dowskivisionmagicaloracle8593]

So what's up America? You have a constitution which expressly allows you to own a gun in order to prevent EXACTLY this sort of government tyranny. So where are the news headlines that these thugs being accused of treason and summarily executed? Oh I see, normal people in [current year] don't use guns to uphold justice, guns are only tools for lunatics to shoot up schools or for crazed Hillary Clinton supporters to shoot Republican candidates.

[@robgoren8628]

"Burden of proof" is now "burden of a wild speculation of the imagination." "Due process" is now "because I say so."

[@serioussilliness2064]

Our culture is so fascist. Fucked up.

[@伏見猿比古-k8c]

So High school bullies are now cops .......fuck.

[@LinkMcStink]

It's weird how people like John are suddenly against this sort of thing when it happens to them or someone they agree with but when it comes to something like #Metoo they are all in favor of it. But I'll give credit where it's due. John may be an unfunny leftist prick but on the rare occasion when he cares more about facts than narrative, he hits it out of the park.

[@MrLTLB]

With the President we have Today, sadly it proves that it will be like this for many years...

[@laszlokiss483]

this is what "liberals" created you have killed out constitution when they get rid of the guns expect a mass culling and bloodletting

[@marcusbellamy2303]

Funny point, and maybe it's been made, but did those cops who bought the kegs and margarita machine have a liquor license to distribute alcohol?

[@jaysoncarte9]

hahaha, awesome!

[@JonDoeIsWaleed]

You only need one if you're selling, i believe.

[@Gazzer1966]

Ahh you believe they are selling, that's a good reason to seize their assets in a forfeit to civilians case

[@jasonmcdowell2811]

Mr Anderson screw that, call in a civilian swat team and shoot them all

[@vinnievalentine421]

@jason lol@civilian swat team. 😂😂 Love it

[@sneaks9150]

I was in the jury for the "America vs an article consisting of 50,000 cardboard boxes, more or less, each containing one pair of clacker balls" case. It was a long a grueling day in court waiting for all 50,000 boxes give statements one at a time.

[@DopeyDetector]

Painfully unfunny

[@TheRedRaccoonDog]

"Hippity hoppity, your cash is now my property."

[@slad6716]

TheRedRaccoonDog My gosh John you have accounts with different names now.

[@aswisshuman637]

I dont have any cash tho

[@BrandonQ1995]

I couldn't even laugh at his jokes, the whole concept of Civil Forfeiture just straight up pisses me off. This is legalized robbery, shit you'd expect from the mob. I'll still never forgot that asshole cop who took 30 bucks I had in my pocket after being stopped an frisked right in front of my damn building. I love that John Oliver is tackling such controversial and sometimes forgotten subjects. Felt the same way during his student loans segment.

[@sheriwhispers]

I couldn't laugh at all I was so sick to my stomach. An thinking about how my dad use to carry hundreds of thousands of dollars in his briefcase to put in the bank in the Morning ? Seriously now .........

[@Brandizzleizzle]

The police are infinitely worse than the mafia. Mainly because there are millions of complete imbeciles who think cops are heroes or good guys and nothing could be further from the truth. They are nothing but strong arm enforcers of the state. THERE ARE NO GOOD COPS! PERIOD!

[@johnh173]

***** goldman sachs stole 14 billion in 2008 through derivative fraud (illegal naked short credit default swap against subprime mortgages - aig bankruptcy). Nobody seems to care. That's money out of your pocket.

[@Astronopolis]

Same happened to me, I was given $100 by my parents because I was short on rent, stopped at a traffic stop and walked away missing $100

[@nick5518]

Ladies and Gentlemen, American FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY!

[@mlang52]

+Nick Chxeidze Exceptional, isn't it?

[@jallenk73]

+Nick freedom is a lie these days free to not travel with lots of cash free to not have son caught with 40 american dollars worth of heroin free not to have enough money to fight the cops that only freedom we have

[@willlow97]

+jason kearns and now, you need a passport for domestic travel, and the IRS can take that passport. Not even free to travel at all anymore, without the government's permission.

[@samueljones621]

+Nick No Nick its Ladies and Gentlemen, American SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM aka the System: The Government / Police Shakedown of the innocents

[@DwaSelery]

+Nick Freedom to take your shit

[@luvmibratt]

As a judge will say ignorance is not a defense, so that I don't know cop SHOULD have been jailed.

[@randomstuff-qu7sh]

Many states have a very low standard of evidence for civil forfeiture. I'd think if the cop would get in trouble for anything, perhaps leaving the person's explanation out of the report could be used to accuse him of falsifying the report.

[@edwardcollins8102]

Except Qualified Immunity says exactly Ignorance of the law (for cops and other government employees) is the best defense (and it works extremely well).

[@arsonmarkscheid4381]

watching this june of 2020 like

[@carlplz00001]

Me too 😂, and still like new 🙄 this topic, nothing have changed.

[@toast7969]

Same here. Edit: I thought this video was new at first. But wow the corruption has been going on for years.

[@Garacha222]

a google search on "civil forfeiture" seems to show this potential of stealing citizen's milk money is still in full effect. There really should be episodes on some cop show about this technique.

[@NotExplicable]

D E F U N D THESE THUG ASSHOLES

[@BadPenny3]

Wash, rinse, repeat...

[@Tefans97]

For a country priding itself on democracy and freedom there's a lot of things that make me fear ever going there again

[@stalk8r]

Wow. This sounds like a practice straight from USSR. Bravo, America. You made it, you caugh up with them.

[@TheRealIronMan]

To be honest, if you really studied history, you'll realize USSR wasnt even that bad, USSR got demonized by western mainstream media.

[@stalk8r]

Tony Stark As someone from a post-communist country, fuck you :)

[@stalk8r]

Tony Stark Hahaha, insults are the best arguments. Truly communist countries have never existed (if they could and my country was among them would not be a shitty country, but a utopia where people are saints going against their nature). But the term Communist block exists as a synonym for the Eastern block, comprised of countries controlled by the USSR during the Cold War. The term is commonly used and if you can't be bothered to ackowledge that, then your history skills probably aren't as hot as you are trying to sell. Dumb bitch ;)

[@willisverynice]

Thanks bro, I knew we could do it.

[@willisverynice]

It's a joke man. He is exaggerating a bit, but in essence, his statement is basically what John is trying to get across here, these are not laws and actions that align with what we imagine as American values, but rather something we would expect from a corrupted government. It's embarrassing to me as a (presumably) fellow American that you either don't or can't get his joke.

[@schattentaenzerin]

So, it's legal to sue a house, but they still use the old argument of "guns don't kill, people do"? Arrest those guns! They look suspicious and might be used for criminal activities. What insanity is this?

[@jonasgomes3776]

The more I grow older the more I understand the US is actually a Third world country but with ridiculously rich people at the top, disconnected from reality

[@TinariKao]

Maybe you should learn the difference between a First, Second, and Third world country. The USA is not a Third world country because they were not "unaligned" during the Cold War. It originally had nothing to do with the wealth and conditions of the country being labeled. The US and allies were First world, the Soviets and their allies were Second world, and countries that opted to stay out of things were Third world. You could say the entire "First, Second, Third" world country naming is out-of-date and insulting now days since it has, as noted, nothing to do with economic disparity, poverty rates, learning and education, etc.

[@rogansullivan]

@@TinariKao Calm down, we all know first and third world are used in the general public as a representation of the developed and developing world, respectively.

[@johnorsomeone4609]

@@rogansullivan Tinari taught me something I didn’t know and she sounds pretty calm to me. I think you might be projecting a little bit. 🤷‍♂️

[@milascave2]

@@johnorsomeone4609 Not really. She started out by being insulting, or the very least, patronizing.

[@johnorsomeone4609]

​@@milascave2 I guess you could read it that way. It didn’t hurt my feelings.

[@rosecat5638]

A woman I worked with had her son go through this. He got his tax return back, had cashed the check and was pulled over on his way home. The cops found his tax money and claimed that it was obviously drug money. He was charged with dealing drugs and they took his money. He had cashed the check to give half of it to his mother because she frequently babysat his children. The parts of the other half was apparently going to a large grocery haul as he was hoping to stock up on things for him and his kids and paying back a friend for fixing his truck. He sat in jail on a drug charge and even though he could prove the amount was actually his tax returns they still kept it. All it did was prove he had not gotten the money from selling drugs. But then they claimed he was going to use it to purchase drugs🤦‍♀️ Moral of the story I guess is don’t drive around with your tax return on you or the cops will steal it.

[@haidenmorgan]

That's insane! That case needs national attention! A tax return!? Tell me that doesn't just boil your blood!?

[@ianbattles7290]

How the hell are you supposed to even cash the check *if the cops can steal the money from you between the bank and your house???*

[@drrome6433]

This a direct violation of the 4th amendment - unreasonable search and or seizure of person and or property without a warrant or a probable cause.

[@cenobitecyborgkratch9669]

Civil forfeiture is anti American. Wait until they run into the wrong mf who won't be robbed.

[@ricothorton477]

Yaun

[@paulmahoney7619]

DR ROME it’s an end run around it that nobody has bothered to call them on, as John said, by prosecuting inanimate objects.

[@roylangston4305]

Your error is in thinking the Constitution has any relevance. As Bush Jr said, it's just a piece of paper.

[@ladydragon7777]

And the 5th amendment And title 18 u.s.c. sections 241 conspiracy against rights and 242 deprivation of rights under color of law.

[@JadeDragoness6]

If you haven't done it yet, *please do a video on how the cheap roadside drugtest kits often give false positives, leading to false imprisonment and of course civil forfeiture.* This happened to someone I knew, he'd been clean for 15 years, but the police harassed him, and when a cheapass kit gave a false positive he was arrested and lost his business property. He was cleared of the charges SIX MONTHS LATER but still didnt get his property back. He became very depressed and agoraphobic with panic attacks, and eventually he ended himself.

[@MDMetalManiac]

"We're like the anti Spiderman - Great Power, No Responsibility".. The story of America

[@Aaron565]

Except Spiderman is an american figure, this is an american site on an american internet.

[@turlumujan]

@@Aaron565 How is that a relevant answer to what he just said?

[@elik.webber7630]

At least when Robin Hood was robbing the King he gave it to the poor .

[@irenerojas3415]

"Do you have more than $5,000 in the car?" "Hahaha not even in my bank account."

[@torrace12]

in Mchigan 90 percent of forfeitures where less then 500 dollars

[@vinnievalentine421]

Yes, in Monopoly money 💰🤑😂😂😂

[@bobbazoid909]

California cops have the credit card machine. No pin# required

[@thenate42]

The 5th amendment to the US constitution has a clause that says “no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or PROPERTY, without due process of law;” and right after that there’s a clause that says “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.” So if asked by a law enforcement officer if one has any cash it would be wise to exercise the right protected by another clause in the same amendment that says “no person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself” and NOT answer that question.

[@ladydragon7777]

Also title 18 u.s.c. sections 241 conspiracy against rights and 242 deprivation of rights under color of law.

[@MrDANGitall]

----> That's our FOURTH amendment, against unwarranted searches and seizures. The 5th amendment allows us not to talk to any officials at all, for any reason. Nice thinking, though.

[@thenate42]

Every quote from my comment was from the FIFTH amendment. There is also the 8th amendment which says excessive bail, fines or cruel and unusual punishment shall not be inflicted. The fourth amendment is good, but gets worked around by law enforcement far too often. They call in the K9 which alerts at the whim of the handler 100% of the time. Thereby manufacturing probable cause. They should have to take this probable cause to a judge to get a search warrant, but they just conduct their search then and there. The problem with asset forfeiture is that the allegations are not against the person, but against the property.

[@thenate42]

They’ll seize a vehicle or a house if they find contraband, but they are mostly looking for cash.

[@thenate42]

Charles Yuditsky the amount matters though. The larger the amount the more likely the owner will take legal action to recover the property. This makes cash in the amount less than $5,000 ideal for these shenanigans since after paying an attorney you wouldn’t get much back.

[@successvideos1160]

I'm surprised he didn't mention the most amazing thing. In some states, police actually have access to portable credit card machines that they can and do use to not only take all of your cash but then max out all your credit cards. I wish I was joking here but I found out about this a few years ago and it still hasn't changed. One police force actually bought a cabin on the lake for officers to use for free.

[@crondawg101]

more info please

[@sachadee.6104]

😳

[@lloydevans2900]

If that is true, there is a fairly straightforward way to prevent it: Ask your bank or credit card provider to ensure that your cards have "chip and PIN" only verification. That way, if the police do take your cards, they won't be able to use them, unless you are silly enough to have your PIN written down (banks always advise against this) on something they are also able to seize. The only remaining avenue for using your cards would then be the contactless system - but there is a limit on how much each transaction can be, so they would not be able to max out your cards or bank account that way, unless you were already close to the credit limit or had less than the contactless transaction limit in your bank account. Of course they could try doing lots of contactless transactions until the credit limit was reached. But since that is the same pattern that thieves try, banks are wise to this: If a pattern like that is detected, they will automatically suspend the card to block any further transactions, and will not re-activate the card without first confirming that the transactions were made by the owner of the card. If they cannot confirm this, the first few transactions which triggered the suspension will most likely be reversed and the card will be cancelled. A replacement card will then be sent to the owner, followed at least a day or two later by a replacement PIN code, each of these sent in separate envelopes.

[@Clovericious]

America. Where corporations are people and stuff is people.

[@Poldovico]

And people are stuff.

[@thehellyousay]

And people are always criminals in potentia.

[@Islandswamp]

Carl Bailey I agree with all of that, but even if it was true that the democrats or one or more specific democrats was responsible, it wouldn't change anything. I'd still be against it. So the "blame the democrats" line is doubly stupid. I think most left-wing people I know are independent enough to be willing to call out the Dems. I know I am.

[@torrace12]

@@Islandswamp well its all about one thing! To be , or not to be cant blame furniture and companies to have the same doubts as we humans ey!

[@torrace12]

@Wilson poetic beatutifulness is a good treat to read

[@StardustLegend]

Tenny mucho mucho deniro in su trucky-trailer? what the hell even

[@Grifdawg]

its truck y trailer. y in spanish means and. dont really know how they missed that

[@StardustLegend]

+griffinn99 I know about that, but what the hell with the rest XD

[@getalifesoon23]

Tiene mucho mucho dinero en su truck y trailer? (Do you have much much money in your truck and trailer) The cop's spanish was completely grammatically correct, his accent was super white suburban tho also civil forfeiture; fucked up right?

[@discontinuedtnd871]

Trucky Cheese? Where a trailer can be a.... Help me out here....

[@BEEEELEEEE]

That clip was from my local news…

[@dannyadamson5580]

The average person has no clue how Dirty the average Cop is

[@TAXCOLLECTOR-mx3mg]

They grew up saying "Everyone Does It".

[@MaghoxFr]

@Pedro Daniel Lopes Ferreira what alternative do you propose? A legal system of civilized militias?

[@rekt4guud134]

@@MaghoxFr a police force is fine, the current state of the police force isnt. we dont need an alternative, we just need better recruitment standards and less political involvement. probably less bureaucratic crap too but thats debatable. there shouldnt be thousands of people paid 50-100k per year patrolling in 100k worth of equipement per square mile with no purpose other than creating shit where there is none. 80% of cops are so useless they prob start shit because they're bored and need to feel like they're relevant or because they're behind on their quotas. how many times do you see 3 cars 6 officers picking on a freaking teenager going to work cause his exhaust makes to much noise or some stupid shit like that, way to often!

[@charliewhite2625]

All police officers should understand that they are the first line of defense for maintaining order and a just civil society. This only works if people have trust and are willing to comply with authority and the laws. If law enforcement loose the trust of the people, and people start seeing them as the enemy, we will no longer have a peaceful society. These corrupt seizer and forfieture laws, that are nothing more than theft, only fans the flames of mistrust for law enforcement that's already taken root in this country. Throughout history, uprising and civil wars have started because of oppression, corrupt government authorities, and unjust laws. It's really sad and shameful this is happening in a supposedly just nation like the U.S.A.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@MaghoxFr " @Pedro Daniel Lopes Ferreira what alternative do you propose? A legal system of civilized militias?" How about a basic frickin IQ test before they hire these empty headed dipshits? As for the militia thing - just about any time a police officer shoots a black person for any reason they get a slap on the wrist and sent back to work, that's worse than a militia, that is a racial cleansing death squad from a 3rd world country made legal by the US government.

[@millanferende6723]

I got redirected here after watching the latest video on police in 2020. Anyone watching this in 2020 and shaking their head?

[@ForrestFox626]

Over here!

[@nickbrannon3251]

All of us.

[@digama0]

There were so many jokes in this one that I could barely muster a weak smile for. I just can't see this stuff as funny anymore, I'm too emotionally drained from all the recent events. This is not funny, this is terrifyingly dystopian.

[@mczeljk]

Yeah...and people are protesting against face masks! As if nothing else was wrong

[@millanferende6723]

​@@mczeljk People protest because very often things could be a pre-requisite for something else. "You have to wear face masks on the street" could become the "Government emergency act of controlling people's free will." Just to say something for emphasis. As you know, rights are eroded slowly, over time. Often methodically. This is why people resist any kind of change where government can force them to do anything. Because it can be a first step in becoming some emergency law. With that said, I feel that people should protest for anything that they deem restricts their free will.

[@rubytuesday8161]

The "mucho dinero" sentence part always cracks me up, no matter how often I watch it

[@charlessavoie2367]

Mumbled by a PIG.

[@johnbrowne2145]

Someone please remind me again what rights are the "troops' fighting for?

[@daveed1797]

for the corporations rights to rob and steal from ANYONE

[@thatoneperson9116]

The right to remain silent while being robbed/shot/abused. The right to an attorney if you survive the encounter who is no help at all if they are public defender....

[@philipmoore449]

The rights of the American government to...the list is just too fucking long but basically it’s to be criminal.

[@Bloodlyshiva]

The right to do whatever they please to whoever they please.

[@markking2735]

just political bullshit.Wave the flag.Throw a parade.

[@brooklynjb3112]

lol did they really need the whole swat team to raid the art gallery funk night

[@atangelat1309]

American cops - scared and startled to a sound of a fart.

[@DimT670]

Well they gotta justify the swat budget somehow

[@lordlucius1341]

They needed at least one SWAT person for each car...

[@icameheretolaughatyou4820]

America is famous for overusing their SWAT teams.

[@tricatmeows]

They were scared for their lives

[@charlamitreslarissa6744]

I love that John Oliver uses Law and Order to comment on police issues and then doubles down 7 years later. Major Kudos 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@heef9001]

He's consistent!

[@msykutera]

So basically it is legal robery that finances luxury items for Police.

[@GM-fx2jo]

looks like it....unbelievable

[@jackphantom]

And when you add all this up, they steal more than every burglar, break and enter artist, and thief in the US combined.

[@seanod7157]

I am thinking about getting hbo, this guy is, by far, the best. Nobody talks about the issues I care about like this guy.

[@erules2534]

you are better off just watching the youtube channel, you get the bulk of the show, and all you miss are the weekly shit which has a HEAVY left leaning.

[@mehmeh5615]

Erules 25 why are you assuming they have the same opinions as you (plus it’s not always a bad thing to listen to other opinions, isn’t that a common argument against the left?)

[@erules2534]

@@mehmeh5615 there's a difference between differing opinions and often being straight up dishonest, which has been a good amount of my experience with the portion of the show I am advocating against.

[@carl_hansson]

@@erules2534 yeah well since the country as a whole is and has been HEAVILY leaning to the right, that may be good for a change. Just look at America man, all the big issues are basically controlled completely by the right via the lobbyists from different companies and endorsements from companies and donations to the party from companies etc.. Most of the republican party is just people working for the upper class while decieving the lower classes by saying that they are doing it for the people and the country. Not saying there aren't any good and stand-up politicians to the right, but most of them are just working for the people paying their salaries, and that's kinda sad.

[@erules2534]

@@carl_hansson the country is NOT heavily leaning to the right, how the hell did you come to that conclusion? Lobbyists? The biggest one that comes to mind for me is most definitely not right leaning, and if you haven't heard, BOTH PARTIES DO JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID and in my experience I have seen the left do it more often than the right (and before anyone says I only see that way because I'm part of the right, no, In actually left leaning on most issues)

[@jyw0000]

You know whats funny? No matter how messed up things get, some of us will always have that ONE friend who always tries to defend the cops.

[@dustinrausch5008]

Jonathan Y Wu Because there are plenty of cops out there who are trying to genuinely do their jobs well. The media just doesn't care about them, because the corrupt thugs are the ones that make for a better story.

[@jyw0000]

Dustin Rausch amen

[@DUHKING24]

Dustin Rausch but since those "good cops" never expose or call out the bad then there no different

[@jyw0000]

ESPGTV ENT true, to a degree though

[@courtneykurtenbach2230]

Dustin Rausch Well, a cop actually doing the job they are paid to do isn't a news story, so why would it make the news? Although cops doing heroic things absolutely DO make the news. Cops completely violating the rights of the citizens they are paid to protect and serve IS a story. It's a REALLY fucking important story, because if we just bury our heads in the sand and ignore the ones who do these horrible things, they will only continue to do it. And that is NEVER okay to allow a corrupt cop to keep walking the streets. But unfortunately, the police departments of these cops basically never do anything about it unlessl forced by a higher power than themselves, because they don't want to taint their reputation-no, they'd rather allow a criminal to be in their police force. And anyway, saying 'oh, but there are good cops out there' is not a defense concerning the ones that violate people's rights and kill them. Yes, there are absolutely good ones out there, but we aren't talking about the good ones, we are talking about specific incidents with horrible corrupt cops. The good cops out there don't diminish the crimes of the corrupt ones. They don't make these crimes any less horrific or unjust. You can absolutely acknowledge that there are many good cops out there (I would know, my father is an amazing one, he's assistant chief) while still acknowledging that there are far too many out there that are corrupt. Even one single corrupt cop out on the streets is too many, and they need to be stopped for everyone's safety.

[@earportals7438]

Love that he cited TN cops for this. My hometown cops were seizing meth and leaving the manufacturers and their equipment to continue production. Sold it out the back door. The cooks and the cops lived in the same neighborhoods.

[@alexnguyen8913]

This is why other countries make fun of us

[@dustinrausch5008]

+Lord Flubbernaut And it's why those other countries are hypocrites.

[@MrRgx521]

+Dustin Rausch Well, yeah, kind of. Very similar issues in most "developed" countries. It's still pretty surprising to an outsider how you guys just kind of take it for granted that the question isn't so much "Is this legal?" but "Can you afford to challenge this?". It really is all about the money everywhere, but most places still try to at least make some effort to conceal that fact.

[@possiblyadog]

+Lord Flubbernaut I could easily name 20 other reasons how an other country could make fun of us.

[@ianbattles7290]

Other countries actually warn their citizens not to carry cash in the U.S. because the police might steal it.

[@spol3278]

+Lord Flubbernaut And us Polish, during the civil uprising in 1981 and martial law in Poland police seized properties, vehicles form civilians for the State use to fight possible attract of Russians(which never attacked). My father lost 2 cars which he used for business. This is crap. I never knew this could happen in AMERICA !!!!!!

[@sarahamira5732]

For one of my classes, I had to do a PowerPoint about police procedures involving traffic stops. I remembered this video and I decided to do a slide on civil forfeiture,my school resource officer was invited by the teacher and he commented on my explanation of it. i used a lot of information I remembered from this, thank you for your extraordinary journalism, as well as combining it with witty humour and charm! It really helped me to watch these videos again whole writing that 15 slide PowerPoint (pretty much by myself because my partner did only four slides and I had to rewrite all of them because she just copy and pasted. Seriously, it ok to do that sometimes but at least press "paste without formating",Christ)

[@torrace12]

im glad you spread this information, it should have been ended now if more people di wha u did

[@2xkiller]

All I have to say is that my property has hired me as its attorney.

[@2xkiller]

And as payment for my service it is giving itself back to me.

[@MunckyFace]

2xkiller good luck there Mick Thomson

[@omerk5812]

2xkiller plot twist: you dont own property

[@2xkiller]

the rs If I paid for I do. That is what makes it property. lol

[@alexandercummins]

2xkiller Sorry Killer Civil Forfeiture unit says otherwise, Its theirs now.

[@mcrazza]

I am an Australian citizen on the other side of the world and I feel pretty f*cking outraged after watching this video. What kind of system is this? How can it be allowed to continue? Just... WHY?

[@Ghettofinger]

Because, they target the poor (people with no funds to fight back) and make it as hard as possible (bureaucratically) for people to fight back without funds. Not defending it, I am just saying how it continues to happen. In fact, without this episode I am damn sure people wouldn't have even noticed it existed until it happened to them, and were unable to do anything about it.

[@changerald3699]

i think it started off as a pretty gd cause, to take down the large criminal corporations who could evade the law anyway they want. But yeah, it spirals down to this shit...

[@bigbeatmanifesto1569]

Savos Aren wait you dead tho, Im the Arch Mage

[@Ghettofinger]

Butter corner You look like a cat to me, cool shades!

[@bigbeatmanifesto1569]

Khajiit actually

[@CraigCinMO]

As most of Oliver's stories show, almost everything in America is a racket. Civil forfeiture, payday loans, lotteries, TV preachers, educational loans, municipal courts and on and on and on. What a country.

[@jeiku5314]

The American Dream: To be able to buy anything and everything.

[@buca9696]

That's unregulated capitalism for you

[@bradwatson7324]

The War on Drugs has simply got to end. It does far more harm than good. And that means all drugs, not just marijuana.

[@mnomadvfx]

At this point it's redundant due to big pharma making the problem worse by pushing doctors to over prescribe opiates - without dealing with that first you can't stop people getting hooked on drugs legally.

[@Cicada3773]

Hahaha, you called Marijuana a "drug"... lol looks like they already won the war.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@Cicada3773 Marijuana is a drug - caffeine is a drug, Tylanol is a drug. Anything you take, ingest or smoke that does not fill a dietary need is basically a drug.

[@andrasvajda2371]

@@mnomadvfx Technicaly bread is a drug... you will beg for it after 1 week of withdrawl... water is even worse... youcant really go more then a day without it...:D:D:D:D:D

[@nintendofan1749]

Just like abortion “Why should the government tell me what I can and can’t do with my body?”

[@Weeble_Wobble]

Watching this in during the 2020 protests/riots. Still no change.

[@SuperShadow]

@@uwuauphourous1170 are you sure it's illegal in florida?

[@uwuauphourous1170]

Purple yeah I looked it up and yeah my comment was wrong. Honestly I got that information from a diffrent comment in this comment section. If your looking for the actual law of the land please use this link it takes you to a website that provides state by state information on civil forfeiture www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-rights/asset-forfeiture-laws-by-state.html.

[@trevorlambert4226]

5 years later, doesn't look like anything has changed.

[@jannegrey]

There is an unanimous SCOTUS ruling that changed it slightly, but at this rate it will be a decade or two, before something serious is done about it.

[@MAlatinboy]

Not to mention that the DNC just railroaded the primary process in order to essentially pick their preferred nominee Joe Biden, one of the architects of civil asset forfeiture law as we know it today. fee.org/articles/how-a-young-joe-biden-became-the-architect-of-the-governments-asset-forfeiture-program/

[@tachometer-flac]

There is a good documentary over 10 years old Aaron Russo MAD AS HELL.

[@gloomylobster111]

Minneapolis passed a law to limit it but the police department just ignored

[@Jeff-uq7iu]

It hasn't changed was just pulled over in Indiana for driving in the left lane on the highway. Trooper forced me to show him how much $ I had in my wallet!

[@elliot6166]

More information about Tennessee: Cops never sit on the side of the road with drug runners that have drugs. They sit on the side with drug runners that already sold the drugs. They want the money, not the marijuana.

[@ridanann]

ima go Tennessee at somepoint i love jd an weed so i hope ur cops are smarter by the time i take my holiday becoz il take the slide of there gun an insert into there body. im not American i just like fucking with illegitimate authority becoz if might makes right ok lets see how that goz lol. ima enjoy the distillery im a fan club member allready

[@celiarobles7182]

There is an episode on "the good wife" about this.

[@Tkieron]

The ONLY time the police care about the drugs over the money is when they can put a tableful on TV

[@expletivedeleted7853]

BINGO! They always want the cash. They do this all over Amtrak as well.,

[@xkluzivtv]

We need more journalists like Oliver to keep us informed about domestic issues rather than foreign issues as global as they may be. We are worried about democracy in other countries but yet steadily allowing politicians to erode our constitutional rights without due process of the law. Wake UP Americans.

[@drshlotzkin]

"We need more journalists like Oliver" Uh... That story was from the Washington Post from A MONTH AGO! We need Oliver? Stories like these have been all over all the time!

[@randomstranger5877]

drshlotzkin You made me wipe my screen, thanks. Anyway, I think Oliver's great at presenting information, not gathering them. I mean, reporting. You know, reporting is for reporters, and presenting is for ranting. :)

[@nowdid]

I live in New Jersey and journalists and reporters talk my ear off about graduating from Georgetown or Columbia but they never bring out the truth of what is wrong with our country and the world.They have surrendered that to Comedy Network or HBO.The reporters brag about which celebrity they met or how difficult it is to get a book deal.THIS is what the reporters should be screaming about not John freaking Oliver.

[@xkluzivtv]

david stanley True! Prophets [Profits] over Truth...! that is until they become of victim of a law they refused to teach us about that goes against the U.S. Constitution.

[@xkluzivtv]

*UPDATE* Guy who filmed the death of Eric Garner - Indicted! Check Out: www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/ramsey-orta-indictment-eric-garner_n_6264746.html Should the Grand Jury Process be eliminated in America to give the power back to the people truly?

[@dschoene57]

The American dream - being robbed by the state...

[@TheronSax]

How has this not been struck down by the courts as unconstitutional? This is a clear violation of the 4th amendment's prohibition of searches or seizures unless there is a warrant signed by a judge and probable cause to back up the warrant.

[@maxdecphoenix]

probably because it's never been challenged? With the separation of powers laid out in the constitution, nationally, the judiciary cannot simply 'divine' that a law is unconstitutional in whole or in part. Or, perhaps i should say that the legislative can essentially create a law out of nothing. Just reach into the ether and a new law is created. (They selfdom have the authority to do this, but we're only paying attention to about 1/5th of the constitution these days anyway, so it is rather frequent) But for arguments sake, that is the status quo. The Judiciary however, isn't afforded the same creative control, i.e. to be able to simply go through the endless tomes of laws and statues arbitrarily with a red marker. They can only make judgements when they are presiding over a complaint (appeal). And that is generally a very tedious, very expensive (and risky) process, ask Larry Flint., or it can be an excruciatingly expeditious affair (Bush/Gore 2000). With civil forfeiture's structure, which is extremely difficult to get before an actual judge, if not outright impossible (as explained in the video), essentially what occurs is that more often than not, the states bureaucrats are left to regulate themselves until a) the political pressure resulting from C.F. becomes too great to ignore; B) someone manages somehow to get a C.F. case infront of an actual judge who can work to have some functions struck down; or, C) they merely act out of their own moral scruples. This occurs at all levels of government, Federal, State, sometimes locally. This is why in some of those 'freestaters'/constitutional activists videos that statists love to denigrate, you will occasionally see activists actually ask police for a citation or to be arrested. A recent video out of Austin, Texas where a PINAC advocate was harrassed by costumed extortionist over sitting on an 'aesthetic bench' comes to mind. At one point, the activist was actually BEGGING the cop to either write a citation, or arrest him, yet the cop refused.

[@tboneforreal]

Theron Sax You're not paying attention to what John Oliver is saying. If they were making a case directly against you, they would have to charge you with a crime and give you due process. When the police seize your property with civil forfeiture, their not making a case against you, but the property itself, which doesn't have the same rights and protections that you do. Hence the case of the US v. 64,000 shark fins, as ridiculous as that sounds. And unfortunately, civil forfeiture has gone before the Supreme Court in the past and been upheld as legal: www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-ruling-on-civil-forfeiture-2014-11

[@TheronSax]

I understand what they're doing, I'm just amazed that it has worked, because it is such a clear violation of the 4th Amendment.The term "civil forfeiture" is nothing more than verbal shenanigans to obscure the fact that the state is performing unwarranted seizures. I'm not that surprised that the supreme court could be fooled by simply changing the name from "unwarranted seizure" to "civil forfeiture".

[@phoneboxchicken4108]

Theron Sax Verbal shenanigans can be a way for 'the law' to make a nice profit, hence why the corrupt lawyers back up the corrupt police. It's all part of the same structure that keeps them in margaritas and power.

[@owensohmer1084]

tboneforreal Except it doesn't make any sense to talk about property if we don't recognize it as an unalienable right of a person, so of course a sofa doesn't have any rights that's completely stupid but you are entitled to the sofa as it is your property and having it taken away is a violation of the fourth amendment, the supreme court be damned. No, seriously, your Supreme Court be damned they don't have any right to do that shit and they should be ashamed and internationally shamed for it. I hope shit goes into the fan, since I'm pretty sure the US don't give no fucks about international courts the only resource would be for citizens to stir the pot enough for legislation to pass and change something. On another topic, holy crap I love John Oliver, takes on many good topics in a very amusing way.

[@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284]

Two years ago, after eight years of hard work and sacrifice, I pulled $8,000 out of savings, bought some craft beer, cooked a fantastic steak dinner, then set the envelope of cash in my husband's lap when he got home from work, along with his dinner. I said, "We've all cut back for years to pay off our debts and get some money into savings. We're secure. This money is YOURS. Go buy yourself a motorcycle. If you want something better, we'll save up to get you something better." He found his dream bike for $9000, took the cash and talked the guy down to bring home his baby. This was after almost a decade of hell. Had a cop pulled me over on the way home from the bank or my husband on the way to haggle, years of sacrifice and dreams would've been crushed. This is evil. We are not to be deprived of life, liberty or PROPERTY without a conviction in a court of law. This is unconstitutional.

[@OneNewHope]

Could have just written a check...

[@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284]

how do haggle with a check? have you ever bought a motorcycle from a private seller before? (You can get a fantastic deal if you've got cash.)

[@jeremyrainman]

OneNewHope Checks and credit cards include risk because they can be reversed or payment stopped. Cash is king because it is instant value transfer, no take-backs. This means that private sellers will always give a discount when cash is involved, because it simplifies the transaction and reduces their risk of being defrauded.

[@unghuugh916]

Pepper Conchobhar Reading your comment, I was sure it was going to be a testimony of how the police screwed you over. I was really bracing myself, haha! Thank goodness your plans went alright. You're absolutely right; yet another disgusting practice implemented by the very people who should be protecting us from this kind of thing.

[@thucydides123]

Maybe it's just time to resist.

[@dreambig5722]

We no longer live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty. We are considered guilty until we can prove our innocence.

[@dreambig5722]

Welstiel w Change is good, but change is hard when we have a moron in the White House. tRUMP is that moron! Somehow he reminds me of an ASS.

[@liviusss]

Even goods/inanimate object can be guilty, apparently...

[@petros_adamopoulos]

@@liviusss If you think about it, it's all coherent in an absurd kind of way. Take the offense of "having open bottles of alcohol inside your car"; I'd have never imagined this being an offense, I don't know of any other country than the USA where this is so. I mean even in the communist country I emigrated from, this wasn't an offense. It's common sense, drinking and driving is an offense; but I can have all the alcohol I want and not drink any of it. Where is the crime ffs.

[@carolynfoster1541]

It always pays to watch LastWeek until the very end! Law and Order: Civil Forfeiture Unit was so good! I'm sure the cast had a blast doing comedy that also delivers a true public service statement. Smart and funny is always something worth watching!

[@CrabQueen]

Yet another reason not to trust the police.

[@ClassMRule]

Bacon Lord You're Implying there was any trust to begin with

[@dustinrausch5008]

***** The problem is that police who actually do their jobs well don't make for eye-catching stories, so people generally only ever hear about the assholish crooks in uniform. It's like how, despite the fact that gun violence has been steadily been going down since the mid-90's, many people think it's still a serious issue since the media milks every single public shooting that occurs for all it's worth.

[@jerrycan1756]

Dustin Rausch Replace the word "Police" with "any job" in your first sentence, and the amount of stuff that suddenly becomes clear is amazing.

[@capefeather]

***** First of all, the fact that an institution provides a valuable service doesn't mean it shouldn't be held accountable for abuses of power. If anything, it means they should be scrutinized more. If the police are supposed to protect our lives 24/7 but are killing people and taking their stuff, that's really bad and deserving of the resulting distrust. The other thing is that there's a difference between "the police" as an institution and "a police officer" as an individual. This is important because people like Dustin Rausch apparently love to conflate these two concepts to straw man anybody who disagrees with them (also cherry-picking gun violence statistics but that's another story). Indeed, most police officers (individuals) do their jobs well enough and are positive contributors to their community. No informed person disputes this. The problem is the institution and how it deals with the "bad apples". When police officers do terrible things and are not held accountable for them, that has real, damaging effects on the community. It doesn't matter how many cops are "good" if there's still a significant chance of being screwed over by a bad cop. The police (institution) has a responsibility to make the best effort it can to do its job of protecting citizens as effectively as it can. Otherwise, it's no different from its equivalents in less democratic countries.

[@sharkman265]

Bacon Lord another reason why people are fighting back against them !!!

[@mishapurser7542]

One of many reasons why I could never live in the U.S.

[@ashleysmith1276]

Damn straight.

[@markaoslo5653]

@Jim lastname - _"...Your a great advertisement for wherever it was you had your "education"."_ And, what have you done for the better, here? You're (as in, you are) all fluff and, no stuff. You've failed to defend especially, where no harm was even presented and; you've made both a poor presentation as well, a poor representation. There is neither honor nor duty fulfilled when you posture argument yet, fail to make one. Mostly though, you _ain't_ making _no_ sense _"more than likely than not !!"._

[@markaoslo5653]

@Jim lastname - It's called parody, Jim and; YOU still did not correct your error. Remove the object from your posterior and, pay better attention!!

[@markaoslo5653]

@Jim lastname - Kindness, has nothing to do with it; it was rather apparent in your mannerisms. _At least, your sense of humor seems to be improving._

[@windsorpatb]

you’re two-grunt more likely than not

[@tonybenn1000]

This is better organized crime than Al Capone could have ever dreamed of.

[@sammyverma2905]

This even beats the opium trade.

[@aureliahernandez7757]

I watch this five years ago and thought it was brilliant. Just as brilliant five years later. I love your investigating work John Oliver and his team. May you stay on HBO forever

[@thagodwecreate5179]

Supreme Court just dealt 9-0 blow to civil asset forfeiture. Thanks John!

[@HistoryNerd808]

I'm kind of a conservative libertarian so I don't agree with John a lot(although there's also quite a bit I agree with him on) but he's absolutely right here. Unfortunately, the case didn't kill it completely but at least people who have their stuff stolen have a recourse now in the states that were saying FYTW to the federal BOR(case was about excessive fines, part of the 8th amendment)

[@thagodwecreate5179]

@@HistoryNerd808 i think this is 1 issue left/right/center/apolitical can all get behind. Civil asset forfeiture is thievery, corruption, unconstitutional and immoral.

[@HistoryNerd808]

@@thagodwecreate5179 Agree completely. It's one of the tragedies of our justice system. It's really everybody against your law and order types and I have to believe that even they are probably split on it

[@randomizer1666]

Just to clarify, the case that just went before the Supreme Court the suspect was guilty of a crime and had his property taken. They struck it down as an excessive fine for his crime. They have made no ruling whatsoever on any case where no crime was charged. That means that Civil Asset Forfeiture is only unconstitutional if the person is later charged with a crime to which the amount taken by the police would qualify as excessive. If they don't charge you with a crime the Supreme Court has nothing to say on the matter.

[@gteal24]

@@randomizer1666 Shame, since the words "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." Are written into constitution to prevent asset seizure.

[@IanPatrickOfficial]

"Tenny Mucho Mucho Diniro In Su Trucky-Trailer" Is going to be my new password. lol

[@Aaron-cz5tz]

good to know

[@teeganbezuidenhout1646]

Ian Moline gonna have to throw some numbers and a few symbols

[@nesano4735]

This video actually pisses me off.

[@HerpaDurpVg]

Good. Me too.

[@aconcretemoth9382]

most things in the United States piss people off. there aren't very many things to be proud of lately

[@damenwhelan3236]

Write your local reps.

[@jigarp999]

Wow...you don’t have to commit a crime to have everything taken away from you any second. All that you may have earned, saved, owned after years of hard work is gone because a cop had some doubt. Americans are fighting to keep their right to bear arms but do they know they do not have right to ANYTHING?

[@terihammond5932]

Why do you think it is such a priority of the government and the media to keep us all distracted as much as possible? Paying attention to the Supreme Court the past year? Roe was only one of a great many rights they have tossed out, and they are still going. This court has already seen more cases than almost any in history, and they are only a year in They are currently ruling on a PRETEND scenario in one instance, restricting our first amendment significantly in another, and destroying the power of unions in a third. That's what's coming, you should see what they already took. Very few outlets reporting on much of this, and none at all on right wing media. We are getting totally screwed, and most of us don't have a clue. This country is in really bad shape. Apathy at the ballot box is destroying us, and screaming it from the rooftops doesn't seem to make a bit of difference.

[@waynelangins11]

I can't watch this show anymore. Every episode I just sit in bed afterwards thinking how it could have gotten like this. I want to go back to blissfully ignorant. I'm just gonna go watch the sloth in pajamas.

[@The_Last_Pants_Youll_Ever_Wear]

or, we fight back. that way you can eventually be blissful, without the ignorance.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Don't do that. In Brazil we always tried to be ignorant about what happens around. And now the devil sometimes come to enjoy his endless vacation when he thinks hell is going a bit too easy for his taste. There are certain very popular countries that aided in sinking this place up. But at least think on the good side, you're not on one of the exploited countries, you're the exploiters. So fixing your problems is going to be a lot easyer there than it is for the foes.

[@waynelangins11]

I said I WANT to go back to blissful ignorance, not that I will. I will not choose ignorance, but I am envious of all the people I know who "don't follow politics" and can just go through their lives blissfully.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Wayne Langins Makes sense. It seems like the more we know about the human world the sadder we get. Let's study physics and the universe then lol

[@craigledger4645]

Well he introduced sloths!

[@AaronParker1977]

Rule number one: Do not answer any questions ****EVER****. They ask where you're going, "I don't answer questions". They ask if you know how fast you were going "I don't answer questions". They ask how your freaking day is going "I don't answer questions". Rule number two: Start taping immediately. Don't wait until they start beating/hurting/robbing you.

[@Chrisfragger1]

Gotta have one of those cameras that automatically uploads as it records. So that they cannot just smash it or "Civil Forfeiture" it.

[@threepac]

Rule#3 Never EVER agree to a search of your vehicle. If you don't agree to the search how can they find anything?

[@vidgami46]

I apologize for the 2 week delay, but this isn't always correct. I was pulled over for speeding on a cross country trip to my parents' house from college. There was A LOT of clearly visible luggage in the car. Probably looked suspicious as hell to the cop. He asked, and I told him the truth. He was satisfied with the answer, gave me a speeding ticket, and went on his way. If I refused to answer questions, I'd probably have just ticked him off and gotten my car messed up and searched and maybe seized. I'm just saying, think before speaking. Refuse questions (or lie if he's not suspicious) if you happen to have $10,000 in cash, but don't needlessly tick 'em off.

[@Chrisfragger1]

Admiral Fear So if a cop is rewarded for taking your stuff and belongings you still consider it the victims fault if they do it? Cops have no right to take your money because you aren't an ass kisser.

[@vidgami46]

Chrisfragger1 I honestly have no idea how you made that leap in logic. Of course it's not the driver's fault in these scenarios, and they have no right to take money on trumped up suspicions. And you don't have to be an ass kisser, just don't be overly defensive by refusing everything right away. If the cop starts asking silly questions, then sure, but don't give him a reason to start.

[@gillese9446]

This is why the whole world makes fun of the U.S.A.

[@stevenjones4833]

I wonder what yo think of countries that worship an arabian pedophile and make laws based on his holy book?

[@andreizedlav7303]

+Steven Jones Justify civil forfeiture first before pointing fingers.

[@GL-ys8je]

U.S.A united slaves of arseholes

[@derGhebbet]

Among other things coughTrumpcough, but yes.

[@vl7852]

Trump didn't create this plutocracy of problematic of conflicts

[@nevermorefrompast-qx5wb]

this HAS TO BE AGAINST the consitution...

[@Highyeena]

The fun part is when you realize that, legally, you don't have to tell the police that you have money in your car. You do not have to submit to a search of your car, either. You don't have to tell them jack shit besides "I won't answer any questions without a lawyer" if you want to, and then the state legally has to appoint you one if the officer wants to take you to court over it.

[@healthfitnessed]

Then there's the fun part where they blatantly tell you to go fuck yourself after you tell them you don't consent to a search and search your car and purse anyway. That's what happened to me. They stole $400, my cell phone, and a camera worth $1500. When I tried to file a report against them, no one believed me and I was threatened with a false report charge (a felony) and prison time if I didn't drop the case. It was my word against 2 cops so I had no chance.

[@Highyeena]

Liz Dum Dashboard cameras are a thing. If you record with one and can prove that you bought one, then even if they seized it legally the court has to assume that it was operable at the time of the indiscretion, and at that point the police have to prove that you DON'T or DIDN'T own one, which is pretty hard for them to do... especially since many dashboard cams automatically stream and upload to the cloud as they record. Mine does. Not to mention if you can prove ownership and loss or location of the goods (see: lock your phone, use the FindMyIphone thing), then it's incredibly hard for police to prove that you don't own or didn't own it. Technology is a helluva thing. You don't have to let it drop in your local court, either, you can take it to state-level though there's wait times and all that bollocks to deal with, and most of the time it's only worth it financially if more than 5 grand is stolen, though sometimes you can sue for grievances depending on various issues... Seriously, buying a dash cam is one of the best investments you can make if you're worried about being stopped by a corrupt officer. As far as houses, well, I don't really know what to say about that. Best you can do is hire a lawyer.

[@benk2755]

Liz Dum You know you should be able to do a FOIA(Freedom of Information Act) on the cops camera footage and obtain a copy of what happened to you. I have heard of people winning cases with just this type of information. Hope that helps.

[@UnknownXV]

Doesn't really matter. They will tell the judge and jury if it goes to trial that they smelled some drugs or you looked shifty or any number of ridiculous reasoning as to why they had "probable cause" to search your car. There are no legal protections for citizens anymore.

[@Highyeena]

Ben K Forgot about this one, but it's certainly a nice pseudo-alternative to dash cams. UnknownXV Doesn't help that people are trying to get the remaining ones taken away.

[@jasonisjericho]

Really disappointing that he didn't suggest Malcolm Xbox as a civil rights leader for objects.

[@Somecollegekid4525]

I’m gonna be a mexican grammar Nazi to that cop. It’s “¿Usted tiene mucho dinero en su camión?”

[@bloodyspider8]

"Camión" is "Bus" in Mexican Spanish, the cop (even if he made everyone of us cringe with his pronounciation) is actually correct by using the word "tráiler"

[@MrKikip1992]

Are you saying trucky-trailer isn't Spanish? That's a real shame.

[@kollegehelm813]

Anyone else looking this up after watching Rebel Ridge? I am almost sure they took some ideas and lines directly from this episode. They even had the Margarita machines 😂

[@emryslee]

same as u

[@Ausghan007]

And do you still wonder why a lot of people say " Fuck the pooolice"?

[@Maxi_94]

I am more like "Fuck the system!" - the police just uses what the system allows them.

[@Ausghan007]

Bumaye HGW true that, it's how they say "to protect and serve the rich".

[@hopespringseternal7028]

LOSETHENAME.COM

[@LordDragox412]

Auzra AFG "Protect our butts and serve ourselves a tasty margharitta" :D

[@qutubowaisi]

hopespringseternal70

[@Jay-Niner]

"Protect and serve"? More like "Rob and murder"

[@hazukichanx408]

And I thought police corruption was more of an India thing, maybe various countries so poor that the people doing it can convince themselves it's just survival. Clearly the US is competing at the world level here, too, though!

[@Jay-Niner]

Hey, I was here 4 years ago!

[@Jay-Niner]

Urgh... where did the time go? 😞

[@davelester1985]

WE need a complete change of politicians who have written this law.

[@JarrodBaniqued]

Including Biden as the nominee. An absolute dolt of a Senator who praised civil asset forfeiture on the Senate floor in 1991. It disgusts me to say he’s the lesser of two evils, but at least we will always have a new generation hold him to account in Congress if he wins the Presidency

[@kindredspirit9703]

@King Peppy Biden is nowhere near comparable to the man who had his force use teargas and rubber bullets on a crowd of peaceful protesters, and then kicked a priest out of their church for a photo-opp.

[@MarioGoatse]

If Biden is a piece of shit, then Trump is the manure farm. If you're going to have a shitty President, then at least take the one that's not an insane conspiracy theorist and all round scum bag

[@huallacanes100]

They are all part of the scam, they won’t do a damn thing about, they all know about this for a long time but haven’t done nothing! They are of it! Supreme court and congress as well

[@permarkusrisman6471]

”If the police need money for equipment we should clearly give it to them.” How the tune has changed.

[@altareggo]

lol well so long as the "equipment" isn't a bunch of bazookas and heavily armored vehicles.....on the other hand, margarita and slushie machines... what harm could they do??

[@jellybellytelly]

Keyword there is "need"

[@calamity0.o]

They need money for training instead of more equipment they have no clue how to properly use except for what they see in the movies.

[@-cheshire-cat]

@@altareggo Don't forget grenade launchers. Standard police issue..........

[@tobaliciousholland12]

If that's your only takeaway from this video, you're cherry picking in the wrong orchard.

[@santiagomachado7378]

The truck driver's expression after the massive failure at Spanish talking from the officer made it for me

[@inspiresfires]

i lost it when he talked about getting drugs from the university of wisconsin madison cuz it's so true 😂😂😂

[@wiscogirl81]

I did too, because I'm from Madison, WI born & raised... #gobadgers

[@PyroMachinima]

Civil Forfeiture violates the probable cause clause of the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution and the due process clause of the Fifth amendment to the United States Constitution. Because simply suspecting the property to be used for criminal wrong doing is not probable cause and thus cant be taken. If this happens to you, file for a writ of certiorari and take this case to the Supreme Court of the United States. Laws are still struk down for being unconstitutional, stand up for your right in the Bill of Rights!

[@AzureDrag0n1]

+PyroMachinima The loophole is that the property is charged with the crime rather than the person which gets around any pesky amendments.

[@evelynfinegan4687]

+PyroMachinima Property =/= a person. Property is not afforded the same rights as a person, and thus isn't protected under the fourth amendment.

[@samp1365]

+Evelyn Finegan thanks for the clarification, I really thought the fourth amendment was the easy solution for the problem at first glance. It's ridiculous that the courts protect this loophole.

[@user-vi2xr5vb3j]

Thanks, I screen shot that just in case I get pulled over one day and the cop wants to take my stuff

[@JohnDoe-mv6go]

+Evelyn Finegan It is still your property, and they are steal seizing it from you; this justification doesn't make any sense.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

Almost 10 year later and a case is in front of the Supreme Court related to this. It... does not look good, with the likes of Altio wondering why a hearing to return property is even required. As the case before him involves people who have no criminal convictions, who just happened to have property in vicinity of a crime someone else did, that line of questioning is very telling. Our justices are asking why should the police even have to review the seizure at all?

[@ZippydaSquirl]

Being a guy who almost obsessively re-watches the first five seasons of the original Law & Order, seeing Profaci arrest a house really knocked me for a loop.

[@Crochlikmeov]

THE PRODUCTION VALUE OF THE LAW AND ORDER SEGMENT

[@alexpeterson1315]

Was one of the actors Simmons from Person of Interest?

[@maxastro]

I'm like 95% sure that the guy interrogating the pile of cash is Jeff Goldblum. Had to do a double take the first time and then lost my shit. xD

[@meredithcross7540]

"...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." - 5th Amendment How is this constitutional? You can't charge an inanimate object with a crime. That is just stupid.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

+Charlene “Chuck” Wrona Probably because no one's challenged it in the Supreme Court yet. This is something that really does need to reach the Supreme Court, but it won't because the first step is a trial without a judge.

[@Jyxorz]

+ZhangtheGreat I'd like to see them try. being a criminal justice student I would fight it and probably win.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

PrussiasGirl Find a victim and persuade them to take it directly to the Supreme Court. It worked for Clarence Earl Gideon (see Gideon v. Wainwright).

[@James_Wisniewski]

You act as if anyone in government (local, state, or national) actually gives a shit about the constitution or personal freedom. The United States has never been a truly free country and we let it happen because people value security over freedom.

[@tristanmoller9498]

+Charlene „Chuck“ Wrona we should fucking sue the law, no not the government, the law

[@barrywalls7175]

The US is way down the list of top countries to live in

[@netvisionz]

I went through this years ago while visiting the states for Christmas. The cops arrested me for non-existent drugs and then stole all of my property.

[@kurtwetzel154]

At least you got arrested and the cops tried to do the right thing. Often a innocent person with $30k in cash going to purchase a vehicle gets stopped by the cops for a minor traffic infraction. Cops find the cash and take it and issue you a ticket and you leave.

[@netvisionz]

@@kurtwetzel154 they put me in jail for a month and stole my property. I had to spend four months fighting a fraudulent charge. The judge was finally getting tired of them so they dropped the case. They didn’t follow procedure.

[@Inari_the_Fox]

@@netvisionz you could try suing for damages. It won't get back the lost months, but it might help with something

[@WaterCupBoi]

But has anyone checked out "Executive Order 13603"? This means the government can seize any resource, property, or person at any time for any reason, including being able to force that person to perform assigned labor without being paid. This scares me.....

[@Araknos1937]

You voted for the people that made that decision. It's known as "democracy" and "freedom".

[@roguechevelle]

Maybe he voted for the other guys. Also, sometimes you don't know what someone will do until they get in office. And look up how some actually buy votes from voters. Also, look up the multiple surveys done over the years of congress approval rates from the people versus the rate in which congress gets re-elected. In 2012 89% of people disapproved of congress and believed they need new representatives. Yet congress consistently gets a re-election rate of 94% , and that number has been the same for 4 decades. The numbers don't really add up.Congress the people who are in power, who can write laws like how much money they can give themselves every year, who 50% of are documented millionaires when the whole of america is made up of 20% of millionaires, they don't want to give that up and will do whatever they can to stay where they are at.

[@johnmcelroy5804]

+Araknos1937 First of all, the United States of America is NOT a democracy, it is a constitutional representative republic. At least it was until a bunch of ignorant "citizens" decided to vote for a bunch of crooked, self-serving, fascist Democrats.

[@vguyver2]

that isn't anything new. It's an update of a presidential power since the truman era, and even then it's been around since the start of the nation in one form or another. Even Lincoln used it's previous incarnation to take over the entire railroad system in the US during the civil war. It's a questionable power, but it's meant for war emergencies. It's abuse is unlikely, but potentially eventual. You might want to currently eye your local government instead. During high school one of my teachers refused to sell her house and property. It was recently bought, and was not on the market. So naturally she refused and was confused why someone was so persistent.. Imagine her surprised when the county suddenly wrote a letter letting her that the township was going take the property. No cited reason, just cause... well it doesn't take long to figure out how this happened when she looked at who signed it. Yup, you guessed it, turns out the person had eyed the house, lost it, offered to buy it out, but didn't like to take no for an answer, and managed to get a spouse to use influence their department to force them out without compensation and just place it on the market to exclusive buyers. Perfectly legal on paper so long as you don't see the motives.

[@tulkasastaldo4114]

Thats the point. That is not democracy. Democracy is defined by the absolute sovereignty of the populace. The US is ruled by a league of political aristocrats that ordinary people basically have no chance breaking up. The US is the epitome of plutocracy. People finally need to understand that any democracy, where not every citizen is allowed to challenge laws passed by the legislative powers, is not worthy of that name.

[@interrobang5785]

"Ma'am, i'm afraid that I'm going to have to take your diamond necklace. You could strangle someone with it"

[@terranu1]

"you will strangle someone with it" ..."could" is just not going to hold in court.

[@karsten69]

who is going to challenge it?

[@IamCoalfoot]

"Pennies from Heaven"... Uuuuuggghhhh... the balls on that guy, this just sounds like Banditry.

[@daemonvelaryon5617]

I'm gonna be a cop, and just sit outside rich neighborhoods. I'm gonna civil forfeiture my way to the American dream. That rolex watch looks highly suspicious and that diamond ring.

[@MisterL2_yt]

but those are the few that can afford lawyers

[@lucalinadreemur9448]

MisterL2 and maybe they'll actually get something done about the law

[@WalterDWormack214]

The Police will NEVER, EVER, perform "CAF RAIDS", in "well to do, WHITE neighborhoods"!.

[@zaggrukk8644]

@@WalterDWormack214 Why? Because it's "profiling" and they don't do that either?

[@onkelpappkov2666]

As a civilian, you could just go around on Columbus Day and discover people's property. I'll discover me that wallet and I'll discover your car keys. Thanks.