Civil War-era abortion ban?

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Ай бұрын

The Arizona state Senate voted to repeal a Civil War-era ban on nearly all abortions that - because of procedural hurdles - remains on track to temporarily take effect in June.

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@ObiwanNekody
@ObiwanNekody Ай бұрын
Bet she expensed that gavel.
@k1ngjulien_
@k1ngjulien_ Ай бұрын
if not I'll donate the 20$ for it 😂
@Osprey980
@Osprey980 Ай бұрын
And the pens
@leetpcguy
@leetpcguy Ай бұрын
And the notebooks
@samwalker7666
@samwalker7666 Ай бұрын
I was just about to comment!! 😂
@speakertomeat
@speakertomeat Ай бұрын
But I bet she hasn't expensed a bulletin board
@ImJustVale
@ImJustVale Ай бұрын
American politics are a never ending mess, lol
@sirquagsire971
@sirquagsire971 Ай бұрын
thaaaaat's politics
@nickfifteen
@nickfifteen Ай бұрын
If you liked this, you'll LOVE South Korean politics!
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 Ай бұрын
If Arizonans wanted a law in place, they could have voted for politicians who wanted a law in 2022. You get what you vote for.
@DarkLobster69
@DarkLobster69 Ай бұрын
All politics are messy, it’s by nature groups of people arguing for different things. American politics are just the most wildly broadcasted to every single corner of the world.
@keefn8
@keefn8 Ай бұрын
No, abortion was handled incorrectly. Each state has to make it legal before the feds should have an opinion about it. The legality of marijuana is being handled better then abortion.
@krn2683
@krn2683 Ай бұрын
Don't forget Arizona was still a territory when that ban was enacted.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
What’s the relevance of that?
@alexandrac6177
@alexandrac6177 Ай бұрын
@@chavvy9074it speaks to how archaic it is, plus it’s a law that was never actually written under a recognized state in the union.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@alexandrac6177 “it speaks to how archaic it is” that’s the same year that the 13th amendment was passed. Old does not mean bad. “Plus it’s a law that was never actually written under recognized state in the union” yes, why does that matter? Do you think there’s a system reset of a territory when it become a state? All of our legal systems predate America.
@Yaromyr21
@Yaromyr21 Ай бұрын
And don't forget women could not vote back then so it piles up on the stupidity of the law
@Yaromyr21
@Yaromyr21 Ай бұрын
​@@chavvy9074the only bit that predates American is the judicial system which was copied from British one but edited to work better in a democracy.And 13 overturned bunch of older and more wicked laws and was a national things, compared to it's siblings of state laws it fits in along the black codes
@chernavskimzfk2638
@chernavskimzfk2638 Ай бұрын
How many matching color sets of notebooks and pens does she have?
@PolarBearChoujin2470
@PolarBearChoujin2470 Ай бұрын
I need to know where the pens are from!
@BlueRoseFaery
@BlueRoseFaery Ай бұрын
@@PolarBearChoujin2470idk where this creator got them specifically, maybe a multipack from Amazon, but if you just want one I’ve seen them at Popshelf & 5 Below, and Claire’s, sometimes Target.
@nickfifteen
@nickfifteen Ай бұрын
I think she expensed them from a company called "Chroma Key", but don't quote me on this
@MenacingWithVideos
@MenacingWithVideos Ай бұрын
I am going to blow your mind. What if she only has one notebook of every color?
@pamplemoussejus7583
@pamplemoussejus7583 Ай бұрын
Are the colours edited in?
@veronicadoggone5660
@veronicadoggone5660 Ай бұрын
Washington Post - We're a newspaper America - We're an experiment
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
We are though lol
@roscoejones374
@roscoejones374 Ай бұрын
That is owned by Bezos, dont forget that part.
@jetpackjbd
@jetpackjbd Ай бұрын
@@roscoejones374which one is owned by who?
@roscoejones374
@roscoejones374 Ай бұрын
@@jetpackjbd The Washington Post is owned by Nash Holdings, a private company founded by Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon. Making the term newspaper questionable.
@neppyneppynepu
@neppyneppynepu Ай бұрын
​@@jetpackjbdhonestly in a way of speaking...both are owned by Bezos
@BenjaminIzquierdo-nb6tq
@BenjaminIzquierdo-nb6tq Ай бұрын
If TRUMP says your going to far, I don’t even have a metaphor for this
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 Ай бұрын
A politician who bases decisions on getting elected rather than on principle can be likened to a weathervane, constantly spinning in response to the slightest breeze. Just as the weathervane shifts its direction with each changing wind, this politician alters positions and policies to align with the prevailing public opinion, seeking approval rather than standing firm on a consistent set of values.
@ramble21
@ramble21 Ай бұрын
Trump only said that cause he knew that would get him more votes. He would sign a national abortion ban if it came to his desk
@shashi43526
@shashi43526 Ай бұрын
Trump telling someone they're being too restrictive on abortion is the metaphor
@BenjaminIzquierdo-nb6tq
@BenjaminIzquierdo-nb6tq Ай бұрын
@@shashi43526 ah ok
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 Ай бұрын
He only said that because conservative women voters started to freak out. The only reason that law resurfaced was because Trump said "states' rights".
@cameronb8503
@cameronb8503 Ай бұрын
Guh 16-14 14 people thought "yeah, civil war era total ban" was a good idea Really starting to show you how far back they want to go to "make america great again"
@CarbonatedCondensation
@CarbonatedCondensation Ай бұрын
Yeah, let’s bring back _that_ era of American history, it was famously _very_ fun for everyone involved
@Bibbo8844hdbks
@Bibbo8844hdbks Ай бұрын
16 people choose that it was a mothers right to terminate the child growing inside her. That sounds medieval to me.
@Morbing_Time
@Morbing_Time Ай бұрын
​@@Bibbo8844hdbks14 people said that she cant get an abortion even if she was raped or giving birth would kill her
@Atlastheyote222
@Atlastheyote222 Ай бұрын
Make America have a civil war again???
@strana6875
@strana6875 Ай бұрын
​@@Bibbo8844hdbks Hey can you genuinely explain to me your POV and beliefs when it comes to being pro life? I'm trying my best to understand all sides equally in life. I ask because everything I see online is refuting claims or being defensive/angry instead of just explaining their beliefs. Don't worry about "proving" your side, I just want to learn 😊
@TheSleepSteward
@TheSleepSteward Ай бұрын
You know what’s more surprising? That there was an abortion law back then. I don’t think I wanna know how they went about abortions…
@fuxkag3908
@fuxkag3908 Ай бұрын
Mercury usually sometimes they poked it with a stick
@HighAdmiral
@HighAdmiral Ай бұрын
Do you wanna know how they go about them now? Using pincers to tear the victim's limbs one by one?
@sophiedowney1077
@sophiedowney1077 Ай бұрын
​@@HighAdmiralactually the vast majority of abortions nowadays are done using a pill within the 1st 10 weeks. The surgical abortions you're referring to usually only happen when things have already gone very wrong. Like if there are fatal fetal abnormalities or a miscarriage. There are only a handful of states that allow abortion after viability (~23 weeks), most of the time for the aforementioned complications. Later term abortions like you described are pretty uncommon. I hope that makes you feel a little better about how things are.
@HighAdmiral
@HighAdmiral Ай бұрын
​@@sophiedowney1077 That doesn't really make me feel better, no, although I thank you for the elaboration. A less gruesome method of committing murder is still a method of committing murder. It's just less graphic.
@Alex-cw1ph
@Alex-cw1ph Ай бұрын
@@HighAdmiral It's not murder to stop letting someone use your body.
@davidjensen1221
@davidjensen1221 Ай бұрын
So, the state where I grew up, Utah, actually had most of its territorial laws repealed when it became a state, such as allowing women to vote. How is it that the Arizona territory and Arizona the state are not two separate legal entities, and therefore don't necessarily have the same laws?
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
Because that’s the prerogative of the state and they just decided not to repeal all of their prior laws whereas Utah did.
@maybe_try_thinking_instead
@maybe_try_thinking_instead Ай бұрын
​@@chavvy9074 isn't it crazy how states are allowed to make their own laws and govern themselves. Man, it's almost like the country was set up like that. Something about the fed not being too powerful or something...
@jangelaclough5457
@jangelaclough5457 Ай бұрын
​@@maybe_try_thinking_insteadyea, but there needs to be a balance. Because we are a UNIFIED country, we need to have some UNIFIED baseline laws, for many reasons. Not to mention, the structure of the country has changed from the inception. Originally, we were, essentially, the EU with each state essentially being independent countries with a shared set of rules and intrests. However, this means that states could, theoretically, come AND go (like brexit). That chabged with the civil war, where the structure changed to be more like canada (with the states acting like territories but still part of a singular country). Of course, this was necessary as a way to prevent the states from being cannibalized by Europe. So...things change.
@maybe_try_thinking_instead
@maybe_try_thinking_instead Ай бұрын
@jangelaclough5457 pretty sure that's the exact opposite of what the founding fathers wanted. It HAS changed from their idea. It's time we went back to it... The US isn't Europe. It will never be. There is nothing to compare the US with, that point is moot...
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@maybe_try_thinking_instead why are you saying this to me when I LITERALLY just said that.
@sethporter6365
@sethporter6365 Ай бұрын
The age of consent in Arizona in 1864 was 10 years old
@user-yo5lr5jy2e
@user-yo5lr5jy2e Ай бұрын
Im sorry it was How meny years old?
@chrisfriday7666
@chrisfriday7666 24 күн бұрын
That is part of the law that Democrats wanted to be put back in.
@lordoftheflies7024
@lordoftheflies7024 Ай бұрын
It's cute how Trump says this is too extreme when hes the one who empowered these superstitious fanatics.
@imgoldleader3938
@imgoldleader3938 Ай бұрын
I love that the people with no values, morals, or sense of purpose, judge all the religious people who don't want baby k*lling to be legal, but don't care that 99% of abortions aren't from r*pe or incest.
@krossestarwind795
@krossestarwind795 Ай бұрын
I mean this point is mostly just we really shouldn't be turning killing babies into the national sport just behind football.
@lordoftheflies7024
@lordoftheflies7024 Ай бұрын
@@krossestarwind795 Ahh yes, a fetus that cannot feel pain (prior to 3rd trimester) and isn't able to be conscious (yet)- yes, unaliving that is totally comparable to unaliving someone that DOES feel these things. What next? Ur going to charge me for animal cruelty if I burn an ant with a spyglass? Omg.
@imgoldleader3938
@imgoldleader3938 Ай бұрын
I love how my comment gets deleted but it still let's me know when yall comment
@tacticallemon7518
@tacticallemon7518 Ай бұрын
@@krossestarwind795 Killing babies and shots fired in schools shouldn’t be national sports Yet we ban “killing” fetuses, but there’s *nothing* we can do to stop school shootings
@JHamron
@JHamron Ай бұрын
The leopards-eating-faces party when leopards start eating faces:
@boromirtheblasted883
@boromirtheblasted883 Ай бұрын
Crazy how a law from 1864 included a provision to save a mothers life but some states do not have that provision in 2024
@EnglishMemorial
@EnglishMemorial Ай бұрын
What states?
@HituraRael
@HituraRael Ай бұрын
@@EnglishMemorial Texas.
@EnglishMemorial
@EnglishMemorial Ай бұрын
@HituraRael Except not Texas. Exceptions for health of the mother are described in section 171.205.
@user-yo5lr5jy2e
@user-yo5lr5jy2e Ай бұрын
The thing about ppl who are anti abortion is that they REALLY care about the babys untill they are born IF free education is good IF theres free and good healthcare IF orphanages are good and IF wages are livable Then abortions should be banned any times before that is barberic
@EnglishMemorial
@EnglishMemorial Ай бұрын
@user-yo5lr5jy2e That's just not true. Christians are far more giving of their time and money to charitable causes, and obviously there's a huge overlap with the pro-life crowd. I personally don't trust the government to be good stewards of my money, especially since 13% off the top is skimmed to drop bombs on kids overseas. And another 13% to interest due to reckless spending, but y'all aren't ready for that conversation.
@Alverant
@Alverant Ай бұрын
I haven't encountered any forced-birthers adopt or foster the kids they had a hand in creating. It's easier to act holier than thou than to actually DO something good.
@sw_nerd
@sw_nerd Ай бұрын
This is a common argument I seen put forth, and to this I respond with a few simple examples. There are plenty of non-profit pregnancy clinics in The United States. Alongside this, Catholics are one of the largest pro-life groups in America, and they noticably DO help people. There are Catholic Orphanages, Catholic Rehab Centers, Catholic Hospitals, Catholic Soup Kitchens, etcetera. Ultimately there are genuine supports available from groups who are pro-life, rather than some holier than thou fallacy.
@Blewlongmun
@Blewlongmun Ай бұрын
@@sw_nerd Although that may be true, in order to be pro-life you inherently have to ignore the repercussions of what mandating that causes. The fact is making abortion illegal does not significantly decrease abortion rates, it only significantly increases the number of women injured. If someone wants to demand pro-life despite this it's because they're either A. Ignorant or B. unconcerned with the damage. They're not all overtly theistic but the mindset as a whole stands in opposition to reality. Even the least restrictive laws have drastic harmful effects, especially when doctors are threatened.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Blewlongmunnumber of women injured by what? The abortion ban supports medically necessary abortions. That’s why they’re attacking the date as opposed to the actual legislation. This is actually the ideal abortion law, but they’re still opposing it. It’s not ignorance - because the right to life is the first and foremost and without it you don’t get any other rights. You can’t have rights if you aren’t alive. So killing innocent people is the worst violation of rights there could be. That’s a firm and unreligious stance. What is the “damage” you’re referring to in b? What is the “opposition to reality”?
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@Blewlongmun number of women injured by what? The ban supports medically necessary abortions. That’s why they’re attacking the date as opposed to the actual legislation. This is actually the ideal abortion law, but they’re still opposing it. It’s not ignorance - because the right to life is the first and foremost and without it you don’t get any other rights. You can’t have rights if you aren’t alive. So killing innocent people is the worst violation of rights there could be. That’s a firm and unreligious stance. What is the “damage” you’re referring to in b? What is the “opposition to reality”?
@donovandelozier7156
@donovandelozier7156 Ай бұрын
​@@Blewlongmun making abortion universally legal saw a large uptick in abortion rates. You're wrong, and more importantly people being desperate to commit murder regardless of it being made illegal is not a justification to let it be legal.
@misteryman526
@misteryman526 Ай бұрын
Two of the Justices that renewed the ban are up for retention this year. They can kiss their benches goodbye.
@chibiprussia5574
@chibiprussia5574 Ай бұрын
Arizona didn't even become a state until 1912
@YannisKarageorgiou
@YannisKarageorgiou Ай бұрын
On February 23rd, 1863 Arizona was made a territory and had separate laws from New Mexico
@chibiprussia5574
@chibiprussia5574 Ай бұрын
@@YannisKarageorgiou I know, it's just weird that in 2024 that they would use a law that was originally written in the 1860s
@ImADeity
@ImADeity Ай бұрын
It was only a month? Felt a lot longer
@itsnotatoober
@itsnotatoober Ай бұрын
How many did you try to get ?
@ImADeity
@ImADeity Ай бұрын
@@itsnotatoober I'm not talking about experience I'm talking about actual time.
@lorillsilverlock3857
@lorillsilverlock3857 Ай бұрын
give it time i wouldn't put it past them to try this again if they win
@OneEyeShadow
@OneEyeShadow Ай бұрын
If they can, they will.
@charliekowittmusic
@charliekowittmusic Ай бұрын
Conservatives: Bringing you the beloved and new ideas of the 1860’s.
@theextracator
@theextracator Ай бұрын
yeah lincoln was a republican
@charliekowittmusic
@charliekowittmusic Ай бұрын
@@theextracator I said Conservative, not Republican. Lincoln was a progressive, and a pen pal of Karl Marx. He was killed by a conservative.
@stevehagen9804
@stevehagen9804 Ай бұрын
Liberals enshrining the eugenics of the 1940s
@richardyong535
@richardyong535 Ай бұрын
Republicans back then was more liberal leaning in the classical sense
@fuxkag3908
@fuxkag3908 Ай бұрын
​@@charliekowittmusic I didint know they were pen pals
@LittleBiscuit
@LittleBiscuit Ай бұрын
Men who make laws about forcing people to give birth should watch a birthing video and see if they’d be okay w/ it.
@minors290
@minors290 Ай бұрын
watched one when I was like 10 its not that bad
@The_Knight_of_Helles
@The_Knight_of_Helles Ай бұрын
At least they repealed it…
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
nah it was a good law
@b1chadledroid126
@b1chadledroid126 Ай бұрын
@@badclassicalmusicHELL NO. Bro is on something
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
@@b1chadledroid126 it stopped baby's being killed whats wrong with that?
@b1chadledroid126
@b1chadledroid126 Ай бұрын
@@badclassicalmusic Rape: Cases where the mothers life is at risk:
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
@@b1chadledroid126 Rape is obviously bad, but you shouldn't kill the child because of it, and if the mothers life has a high chance of ending i believe it a sacrifice that may be neescary
@Joblerone
@Joblerone Ай бұрын
I love the colored pencil poffs to identify speakers, I need me a set of journals and matching pencil puffs
@ferociousfeind8538
@ferociousfeind8538 Ай бұрын
Wait what? Even Trump said this ban was too far? Now I've seen everything
@DerekHise
@DerekHise Ай бұрын
Trump changed his stance on abortion 5 times in 3 day the first time he ran for office. He says anything he thinks will appeal to voters. Trump saying that, is more a commentary on how unpopular the abortion ban is.
@ferociousfeind8538
@ferociousfeind8538 Ай бұрын
@@DerekHise yeah, okay, that makes sense
@AdmSlava
@AdmSlava Ай бұрын
The repeal doesn’t take effect until 90days after the legislature sine dies-which could be several months
@kickpushlongboards
@kickpushlongboards Ай бұрын
90 days would be 3 months
@stargazer-elite
@stargazer-elite Ай бұрын
Still no understand how a law created before the state even existed is allowed to be enforced today when it wasn’t previously enforced like if it was enforced shortly after it would be more understandable the fight would be more about removing it, but like it wasn’t so why try to now?
@kraykyle
@kraykyle Ай бұрын
Rare Trump W. Also you know it's incredibly fucking stupid when even Trump says that it's going too far, and he's doing dumb shit 90% of the time.
@ernimuja6991
@ernimuja6991 Ай бұрын
Didn’t he win an entire election?
@tempeleng
@tempeleng Ай бұрын
It's easy for him to spout those words for he only cares about getting reelected. If it means renouncing a state law that he allowed to go into effect by helping to overturn a higher law in the supreme court, so be it.
@bigmike6461
@bigmike6461 Ай бұрын
Means when the gop gets loving vs Virginia overturned, uou can expect old laws to be triggered as well.
@dexter111344
@dexter111344 Ай бұрын
The notion a "law" from before Arizona was even a state somehow superceded a century plus of precedent of abortion access is absolutely stupid. The Republicans who supported keeping it in place deserve to lose in November.
@fruitydishofpasta
@fruitydishofpasta Ай бұрын
Love how women’s rights became negotiable 😭😭
@MichaelJohnsonolohfghv
@MichaelJohnsonolohfghv Ай бұрын
I'm pro abortion but stop calling that shit a right?
@juliusdauksys2183
@juliusdauksys2183 Ай бұрын
​@@MichaelJohnsonolohfghvit's literally the right to bodily autonomy
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
@@juliusdauksys2183 yeah that is a right, you have the right to your own body, not the babies
@juliusdauksys2183
@juliusdauksys2183 Ай бұрын
@@badclassicalmusic you realize bodily autonomy means you sat what happens to your body and organs. Like how you can just not let a parasitic human grow inside of you
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
@@juliusdauksys2183 "by parasitic human" do you mean a baby? cause if so that is a separate living entity and thus is not your body
@ricogoins
@ricogoins Ай бұрын
Do not bring back the OG map
@DeadlyEnzyme
@DeadlyEnzyme Ай бұрын
Oh no the consequences of legislators not keeping up to date laws and federal legislators being worse. How could any of us have seen this coming? None of us can read or form rational opinions on the moral state of our political system
@mr.magnificent7374
@mr.magnificent7374 Ай бұрын
Arizona wasn’t even a state in 1864
@limerence8365
@limerence8365 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't Republicans not want it enforced? Since ya know, a mother's life could actually be spared?
@Vexatiouss
@Vexatiouss Ай бұрын
This comment is a perfect example on why the party system is a terrible decision. You put every single person in one category. It does nothing but divides Americans. I am my opinion believe abortion should only be taken place if the mother‘s life is in danger. If she consented the having unsafe sex and gets pregnant, that’s her fault.
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
or a babys could be
@crowleymccloud2768
@crowleymccloud2768 Ай бұрын
Unless the mother's life is at risk abortion should be 100 precent illegal
@HituraRael
@HituraRael Ай бұрын
Bold of you to assume Republicans care about the life of the mother. Or the fetus'.
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
@@HituraRael We do, we care about both lives
@k1ngjulien_
@k1ngjulien_ Ай бұрын
so what? has the 1800s law been repealed?
@beepboop6212
@beepboop6212 Ай бұрын
TLDR: ye they did
@zenmaster6780
@zenmaster6780 17 сағат бұрын
What a mess
@FogHorn1911
@FogHorn1911 Ай бұрын
Oh so the elected government changed the law instead of having an unelected judge "block" a law? This is a good thing and exactly how the government should work.
@user-yo5lr5jy2e
@user-yo5lr5jy2e Ай бұрын
Well a country without unellected judges being able to block laws is what we call a "dictatorship" my dear fellow
@w0000ticus
@w0000ticus Ай бұрын
lmao did you call women dying 'a lot of drama' 🤣
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 Ай бұрын
Thankful to Arizona Democrats for doing their jobs!
@JackalBruit
@JackalBruit Ай бұрын
eagerly awaiting the "i have to gavel - i expensed it" THEN!! what will their other reporter expense 🤔
@IndianaNorthWestern
@IndianaNorthWestern Ай бұрын
Extremely ungodly unfathomably rare, republican W. Too bad all the trillions of L's counteract it.
@skies_page6053
@skies_page6053 Ай бұрын
I always thought that for a decision in court, there had to be a 2/3rds majority vote? 16 from 30 is 8/15ths
@bltcatwich
@bltcatwich Ай бұрын
pretty sure that’s only in the senate
@EvyTallWoman
@EvyTallWoman Ай бұрын
Repealing laws does not require a higher burden than making laws.
@jjquinn295
@jjquinn295 Ай бұрын
This was the legislator, not a court. Simple majority with sign off by the governor is all that is needed. The court ruled that they couldn't repeal the law and that legislation would be needed to change the law.
@EvyTallWoman
@EvyTallWoman Ай бұрын
@@jjquinn295 The Court ruled that the law was still active because it was never repealed. Most unconstitutional laws are simply dormant.
@jjquinn295
@jjquinn295 Ай бұрын
@EvyTallWoman yes and that since the Supreme Court overturned Rowe it would require legislation to repeal. Hence at the next session the state legislator past legislation to repeal it. You know like congress probably should have done sometime since the court ruling rather than just complaining.
@felipeopazo2662
@felipeopazo2662 Ай бұрын
Damn we early
@bobolobocus333
@bobolobocus333 Ай бұрын
Indeed we are.
@wausa7132
@wausa7132 Ай бұрын
Love the one that's writing in the back.
@MoeFokah
@MoeFokah Ай бұрын
Her all black, funeral colors are oddly apt for this deteriorating system.
@chloe54251
@chloe54251 Ай бұрын
quote from wikipedia: "During the first trimester, when it was believed that the procedure was safer than childbirth, the Court ruled that a state government could place no restrictions on women's ability to choose to abort pregnancies other than imposing minimal medical safeguards, such as requiring abortions to be performed by licenced physicians. From the second trimester on, the Court ruled that evidence of increasing risks to the mother's health gave states a compelling interest that allowed them to enact medical regulations on abortion procedures so long as they were reasonable and "narrowly tailored" to protecting mothers' health.[7] From the beginning of the third trimester on-the point at which a fetus became viable under the medical technology available in the early 1970s-the Court ruled that a state's interest in protecting prenatal life became so compelling that it could legally prohibit all abortions except where necessary to protect the mother's life or health." aka, first trimester is protected (up to around 12~14 weeks) second trimester is up to the states (12~14 weeks to 26~28 weeks) and the third trimester is off the table unless it is to save the mothers life. if you disagree with these and this is the first youre hearing about it the congratulations, you never really cared about abortion law, you just wanted to argue.
@AnyPerson-my8pe
@AnyPerson-my8pe Ай бұрын
Come November AZ Will go from purple the blue, baby!
@goodguyamr6996
@goodguyamr6996 Ай бұрын
off topic, but I love the different colored notebooks and the matching pens (or gavel)
@baxbell6414
@baxbell6414 Ай бұрын
Can we get a notebook and puffball pen tour? I need to see the collection.
@tymera
@tymera Ай бұрын
Thanks democrats you guys really do your best
@somerandomdogedod7629
@somerandomdogedod7629 Ай бұрын
doing their best at destroying the country👍
@extradecaf8778
@extradecaf8778 Ай бұрын
People in the comments should know cuz people believed something you agree with from 1860 does not mean it’s a bad thing
@supremacy9097
@supremacy9097 Ай бұрын
Ofc it's not fundamentally a bad thing. Why people are aggressive against it, is firstly, the historical context of it and why it was put into place, the conditions being different from today and not as relevant. Now more importantly, screw the dates, view it as a new independent legislation. Not even allowing abortion in rape and super risky situations is kinda absurd already. You know the conservative arg has a line that kinda hinges on "accountability" for "your own actions" . Yea u see, noone willingly gets raped, or I ll go ahead and say chooses to make it a life and death situation.
@sagunsingh7415
@sagunsingh7415 Ай бұрын
Agrees. Our constitution is older than that. Are we supposed to get rid of the first amendment? And here i though kids were smarter these days.
@Alex-cw1ph
@Alex-cw1ph Ай бұрын
​@sagunsingh7415 The first amendment isn't making rape a viable way to obtain a child. Bad example
@Alex-cw1ph
@Alex-cw1ph Ай бұрын
Nobody is saying that is the reason. The point is that it is so archaic that ownership of other human beings was still permissible.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@supremacy9097what is that? And do the intentions outweigh the effect? Cus we’d be getting rid of a hell of a lot of things, including planned parenthood actually, because that was promoted for population control of minorities. And it’s hard to “view it” as that when the only argument being presented is “omg this law is from 1864!” The legislation makes for medical abortions that’s the only reason it should be allowed, elective abortions should be unconstitutional.
@Catssonova
@Catssonova Ай бұрын
How many states held territorial laws over after statehood? I found it really odd that the State Supreme court took that kind of precedent and made it precedent to do so
@zwegchen
@zwegchen Ай бұрын
Wait do you mean to tell me - she didn’t have a black puff pen to match her black notebook. Shameeeee
@GalironRunner
@GalironRunner Ай бұрын
but but i though the argument FOR abortions was them being historically allowed? Yet the law negates that idea.
@user-xh9pu2wj6b
@user-xh9pu2wj6b Ай бұрын
This is probably the dumbest false argument I've ever seen, lmao.
@TheReal_Antrey
@TheReal_Antrey Ай бұрын
The argument for abortion is and allways was women's rights and body authonomy
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@TheReal_Antreyyea, but the main argument AGAINST this law is “it’s old get rid of it”. This is actually the ideal abortion law but people are still against it and not for principle reasons.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@user-xh9pu2wj6bhow is it a false argument?
@donovandelozier7156
@donovandelozier7156 Ай бұрын
​@@TheReal_Antrey the argument for abortion is always "but I want to murder children" since it isn't a right to murder, and it isn't your body that you are killing.
@fanshaw
@fanshaw Ай бұрын
What era does the ban on murder come from?
@jacobvirtz5919
@jacobvirtz5919 Ай бұрын
Just as a reminder in Virginia it's Illegal for a woman to give a man head.
@user-yo5lr5jy2e
@user-yo5lr5jy2e Ай бұрын
Im scared of how they inforce that
@44zeex
@44zeex Ай бұрын
She has to use it. She expensed it.
@GisBanana555
@GisBanana555 Ай бұрын
how tf does the video have 106 likes but only 157 views???
@greyklein4154
@greyklein4154 Ай бұрын
Black magic and devil worship.
@tarrell7073
@tarrell7073 Ай бұрын
Likes don't have to watch the video. But the count for views needs to watch the entire video
@theBear89451
@theBear89451 Ай бұрын
The counts are intermittently summed from servers around the country.
@henryprice9493
@henryprice9493 Ай бұрын
Not everyone likes wvery video they see lol
@Tyshkevich
@Tyshkevich Ай бұрын
Abortion should only be legal under very specific circumstances. Like rape, or when the mothers life is at a threat. It should NOT be legal as a form of "oopsies". If you're having unprotected sex, then you should face the consequences of those actions.
@HarutoVA
@HarutoVA Ай бұрын
I agree with this one but i hought the one they wanted to ban was the oopsies one? And how the hell do we have these mistakes if condoms exist? Dont they use it?
@KaelynSmith-bc9ww
@KaelynSmith-bc9ww Ай бұрын
do you think laws like this would result in less abortions? do you think people will just stop having sex and therefore abortions? what we need is more contraceptive access for everyone.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
That’s exactly what this law was which is why they’re arguing against the date of it and not the actual law.
@Spare_Toaster
@Spare_Toaster Ай бұрын
Do you think masturbation is genocide? Because fetuses are as human as semen discharged into a tissue
@NightWing1800
@NightWing1800 Ай бұрын
Except by putting abortion laws in place you risk the mothers life in those "allowed cases" because doctors then have to jump through hoops to justify it being an accepted case. No one is using abortion as a form of contraception. Its surgery. It sucks to get. You want to reduce abortion? Support abortion as a protected right and then push for policies like better sex ed, better access to contraceptive, and the state providing financial aid to expecting mothers. All three of those things reduce abortions, and they dont put anyones lives at risk. Incidentally republican politicians tend to be against all three of those things which increase abortions. Some states even went so far as to try to ban various forms of contraception in the wake of roe v wade being overturned.
@Fox_Box_Studios
@Fox_Box_Studios Ай бұрын
Me being distracted by the different colors of the notebooks and pens : 👁👄👁
@PickleJam300_Jbq
@PickleJam300_Jbq Ай бұрын
Moral of all American politics: people big mad
@TedEhioghae
@TedEhioghae Ай бұрын
Abortion is a sin. If you do not want to get pregnant, don't have sex.
@spidybat7658
@spidybat7658 Ай бұрын
Not everyone is religious. Futhermore clearly you only see sex as a way to have a child meaning you have never had good sex. Futhermore there can be health complications. For example if the doctors suspect the child having a disability that can be hard on the parents and the child once it is born.
@donovandelozier7156
@donovandelozier7156 Ай бұрын
​@@spidybat7658 I don't need religion to tell me murder is wrong, getting pregnant is the result of sex so if you don't want the risk don't have sex doesn't mean you haven't had good sex, also let's not go the eugenics route of thinking it's ok to kill someone because they have a disability
@TedEhioghae
@TedEhioghae Ай бұрын
@@spidybat7658Sex is a way to have a child. That is why people use condoms. To not get pregnant.
@Pospolite-Ruszenie
@Pospolite-Ruszenie Ай бұрын
@@spidybat7658 Even if you’re not religious, abortion violates the 14th amendment.
@saberhap2639
@saberhap2639 Ай бұрын
@@spidybat7658 Your parents obviously ignored their doctors because you were born.
@metl6929
@metl6929 Ай бұрын
All the liberals are commenting and all the conservatives are replying and war...war never changes.
@brimfire7536
@brimfire7536 Ай бұрын
Just remember: Liberals didn't start the war. They're not the ones that changed targets from denying gay rights to now denying women's rights. It's a consistent pattern of conservatives being bigots, getting backlash beyond measure, then changing their focused fearmongering and disinformation towards a different group of humans.
@garrettbriscoe2329
@garrettbriscoe2329 Ай бұрын
Bro, we were right there! So close!
@howarddugan798
@howarddugan798 Ай бұрын
how bout we put it in a referendum so the ppl can vote for it and not have politicians force another law the ppl don't want. Democracy remember that thing the 50.1 get to tell the 49.9 then want or don't want something
@ernimuja6991
@ernimuja6991 Ай бұрын
We’re a republic.
@essonyoutube
@essonyoutube Ай бұрын
@@ernimuja6991we are a democratic republic, which means that while the people get to vote, our representatives take our common beliefs and vote with that. this can be weird though and not completely work as seen in 2016, when even though Clinton won the popular vote meaning most people voted for her, she didnt win the electoral college meaning our representatives went against our will
@ernimuja6991
@ernimuja6991 Ай бұрын
@@essonyoutube We are a federal system, meaning representation goes by state not popular vote. It is REALLY important that you understand this. Not all states votes are equal, but smaller states are protected from bigger ones. Imagine if the EU became a federal state, smaller nations like Greece would want protection from bigger nations like Germany, otherwise German popular vote would decide 90% of all issues. This is the same for the US where every state is a nation in and of itself. Smaller states need protection from bigger ones, otherwise they would demand self determination and break the union. The electoral college did not go against the people’s will because the people are not one. Someone from California is not the same people as someone from Illinois. A Californian vote should have as much to say on matters of Illinois as a Russian on matters of Ukraine. Plz learn the system, learn how this federated state holds itself together and how the “people” are not one. It’s a bunch of different people voting on how not to screw each other. Lumping them all together as if though you have anything in common with me is ridiculous.
@memelord510
@memelord510 Ай бұрын
I’ve said this before, but the older I become the more politics seem like some sort of elaborate joke or prank.
@graphi1477
@graphi1477 Ай бұрын
Not my home state making horrible decisions 😪
@nathand.9969
@nathand.9969 Ай бұрын
partly accurate, the original law was civil war era but after Arizona became a state the law was re-passed. Then when Roe was decided the law was enjoined. It makes sense that when Roe was overturned the law would go back into effect. Now it's up to the voters of AZ and their representatives to decide what law they want.
@mikevignola4213
@mikevignola4213 Ай бұрын
My question is how were anti-abortion laws still on the books are Roe v Wade? After the supreme court decision was decided in the 70s all those laws would have been illegal.
@Diviance
@Diviance 14 күн бұрын
Texas still has laws requiring people to believe in a supreme deity to hold public office and the like. They just can't be enforced.
@lillianblack8749
@lillianblack8749 6 күн бұрын
Btw AZ did not even exist during the civil war. It’s like the 48th state it wasn’t even close to being a state back then.
@Thishandle_isnt_available
@Thishandle_isnt_available Ай бұрын
Was the gavel expensed too?
@knpark2025
@knpark2025 Ай бұрын
As a Catholic, I can understand there can be some strong value-based cases to be made from the side that wants to shun abortion. A law made even before doctors realized they must disinfect their hands when they help childbirth can NOT be one of those cases🤣
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
as a catholic shouldn't supporting banning abortion "thou shalt not kill" and all that?
@s0ngbirble
@s0ngbirble Ай бұрын
arizona wasnt even a state in the 1800s
@kingwilliamtheconqueror.
@kingwilliamtheconqueror. Ай бұрын
It was resigned after roe
@wheezer6695
@wheezer6695 Ай бұрын
Men and bears got nothing on the female K/D
@xnamkcor
@xnamkcor Ай бұрын
"Arizona did a bad thing". *The cause was something the Supreme Court did
@reginaldgarner4321
@reginaldgarner4321 Ай бұрын
@washingtonpostuniverse, The U.S. is so backward now, especially in Arizona.
@stevehoskins3039
@stevehoskins3039 26 күн бұрын
um, Abortions to save the Mother's life are the only abortions that should be allowed period..
@Diviance
@Diviance 14 күн бұрын
Ok. Then we should add a tax to all Republican voters to pay the medical costs, maternity costs, food costs and stuff for all of those children forced into existence.
@hedgehoginacanoe5838
@hedgehoginacanoe5838 Ай бұрын
Im surprised Republicans were against it since its something they've wanted for a long time now.
@grovr7543
@grovr7543 Ай бұрын
Abortion(under the cdcs definiton), should be completely abolished.
@user-yo5lr5jy2e
@user-yo5lr5jy2e Ай бұрын
You spelled there should be more miserable orphans with no healthcare no good schools and no money wrong
@CharliePerson_
@CharliePerson_ Ай бұрын
@@user-yo5lr5jy2ethat would’ve been a fantastic rebuttal if you spelled “spelled” correctly I blame auto correct it ruins everything
@user-yo5lr5jy2e
@user-yo5lr5jy2e 24 күн бұрын
@@CharliePerson_ i know 3 languges i cant keep track
@Hobbyrepubliken
@Hobbyrepubliken Ай бұрын
Third world country
@failtolawl
@failtolawl Ай бұрын
fun fact, there are loads of laws EVEN OLDER than this! Such as murder, theft, fraud.
@juliusdauksys2183
@juliusdauksys2183 Ай бұрын
And those are actually enforced and still beneficial. This is not the gotcha you think it is
@brimfire7536
@brimfire7536 Ай бұрын
And guess what? People that were affected by said law could vote on those! Unlike Arizona's abortion law in the civil war era!
@Michael-Malekzadeh
@Michael-Malekzadeh Ай бұрын
goodly gah
@ethanelliott9250
@ethanelliott9250 Ай бұрын
I can barely follow this short
@michaelmathews4376
@michaelmathews4376 Ай бұрын
Love the talking point "It's old so it's useless"
@morkshanmedia3998
@morkshanmedia3998 Ай бұрын
YAY
@adamm.6595
@adamm.6595 Ай бұрын
Roe wasn't a law, but yeah.
@stevekem1347
@stevekem1347 Ай бұрын
Trump's dad went too far
@xavierwagner3238
@xavierwagner3238 Ай бұрын
Finally
@CGMossa
@CGMossa Ай бұрын
Funny when you agree with Trump, you say former president.
@Hello4206_9
@Hello4206_9 Ай бұрын
Yes because he's currently not the president
@christophertaylor9100
@christophertaylor9100 Ай бұрын
I love how they keep pushing the term "civil war era" to make it seem evil and awful, because of the time period
@sadfrog15
@sadfrog15 Ай бұрын
It's over a 150 years old, it's like enforcing the English laws from 1000 years ago
@christophertaylor9100
@christophertaylor9100 Ай бұрын
@@sadfrog15 Murder laws are from 1000 years or more ago. Are they outdated?
@itzcaleb1776
@itzcaleb1776 Ай бұрын
I think it’s a good law you don’t need an abortion unless the mother’s life can’t be saved and that is so rare that their would be no need for abortions
@iru_arg
@iru_arg Ай бұрын
Just because you don't need an abortion doesn't mean that the law is good. I mean, you also don't need rights, but you have them, and you want them. You also don't need an arm, a leg, or any limbs at all but what if those were taken away from you? You wouldn't be happy.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@iru_arg that’s the point. You shouldn’t be able to kill someone just because you want to. Abortions are not for convenience.
@juliusdauksys2183
@juliusdauksys2183 Ай бұрын
​@@chavvy9074they also aren't killing
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@juliusdauksys2183 for some reason whatever comment I made that you’re responding to isn’t showing up, what’d it say?
@essonyoutube
@essonyoutube Ай бұрын
@@chavvy9074> kill someone would you really consider a clump of parasitic cells a human? next time you have a tapeworm, be sure to not get it removed, because that would be killing someone
@calebblaha7854
@calebblaha7854 Ай бұрын
I mean im no lawyer, but the age of a law doesn't mean its not legally binding.
@user-yo5lr5jy2e
@user-yo5lr5jy2e Ай бұрын
The fact that it was made before it was a state it what makes it unleageally binding
@calebblaha7854
@calebblaha7854 Ай бұрын
@user-yo5lr5jy2e I don't know, kind of a gray area if it was already a self governing territory.
@kyekruchoski1457
@kyekruchoski1457 Ай бұрын
well you know 12 weeks is where it should be doesnt kill the child proven by science most people can abort by then.
@user-yo5lr5jy2e
@user-yo5lr5jy2e Ай бұрын
I think that abortions should be banned IF theres good and free healthcare Good and free schools Good and well kept orphanges And liveable wages Untill then its a fat no from me buster
@CharliePerson_
@CharliePerson_ Ай бұрын
Huh. You know I personally think it should be their choice but.. you’re actually pretty reasonable about how you think it should be banned I respect that. Although my opinion doesn’t matter I don’t live there lmao
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
excuse me? you want to murder kids because their lives might be bad?!
@juliusdauksys2183
@juliusdauksys2183 Ай бұрын
​@@badclassicalmusiclove the use of inaccurate language for emotional manipulation
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
@@juliusdauksys2183 what language was inaccurate?
@johnnypoo3166
@johnnypoo3166 Ай бұрын
Hey you're right if you take away the fact that states already had their own laws about abortion before Roe versus Wade
@kurtisl051
@kurtisl051 Ай бұрын
(1) This is literally about the consequences of those old laws because Roe vs. Wade is gone. (2) Arizona wasn't even a state when this law was made.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@kurtisl051 two is arbitrary as all states have laws from before they were states. You don’t just hit reset upon entering the union.
@kurtisl051
@kurtisl051 Ай бұрын
@@chavvy9074 When people point out #2 it's to put into perspective just how long ago this law was made so the idea of "we're just going back to how things were before Roe vs Wade" ignores the tragic comedy of surprises Arizona is finding itself in.
@chavvy9074
@chavvy9074 Ай бұрын
@@kurtisl051 that makes no sense because 2 also applies to the end of slavery and 13th amendment. And women voting. Theres nothing tragic or comedic, the very same law should and could be passed in 2022, banning abortion except for emergencies is a stable concept.
@dannyzwolf4546
@dannyzwolf4546 Ай бұрын
No make it a constitution amendment, no baby murder except to save the mother's life.
@badclassicalmusic
@badclassicalmusic Ай бұрын
It should already people you have a right to life, freedom and the pursit of happiness this violates all 3
@farfromthemaddingcrowd846
@farfromthemaddingcrowd846 Ай бұрын
Bring back the ban
@brianransom16
@brianransom16 Ай бұрын
Imagine justifying homicide for the purpose of hedonism. Sad.
@andrewearl8926
@andrewearl8926 Ай бұрын
Yeah and while we are at it lets roll back those civil war era 13, 14, 15th amendments. Just because it's old doesnt mean its bad.
@Braixen8
@Braixen8 Ай бұрын
the video never said it was bad becuse it was old. they never even said it was good. this is the official washington post so the video is entirely informational, no opinions within.
@somerandomdogedod7629
@somerandomdogedod7629 Ай бұрын
​@@Braixen8 the washington post isnt biased sure buddy
@Braixen8
@Braixen8 Ай бұрын
@@somerandomdogedod7629 its a news source it cant be biased. and even if they are, this video wasnt
@somerandomdogedod7629
@somerandomdogedod7629 Ай бұрын
@@Braixen8 i suppose this video is alright, but they are clearly biased in other videos
@Braixen8
@Braixen8 Ай бұрын
@@somerandomdogedod7629 well then weve reached a mutual understanding
@smithkk89
@smithkk89 Ай бұрын
You left out the part where the Republican majority was speaking in tongues on the senate floor.
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