I ran rejected Mario Odyssey speedruns so you don't have to

There are a lot of rejected speedruns in SMO, but do they deserve to stay that way?
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[@GreatFlamingEyebrows_]

I actually really like 16 star because it’s a quick and simple category with no cutscenes that some one could do to break things up after completing an any% run

[@LuigiMaster987]

Might be the only Speedrun I do besides Any%

[@day7163]

I like it because pays a nice homage to Mario 64

[@shogun_3881]

I feel like it should add getting the mario 64 outfit before getting the 16 stars

[@nedmac2945]

The problem is is there are a few factors that would play in debt how well you might do, like, how many coins did you have before going into mushroom. Someone could just go into mushroom with enough coins, and buy all of the stars, and then that's like sub 30 second

[@LuigiMaster987]

@@nedmac2945 then maybe some rules could be added For example: You must collect 16 unique stars You must start from a file that has just arrived in Mushroom Stuff like that

[@christianstonecipher1547]

6:27 "If a run accidentally does another run, I feel like that run shouldn't be a thing". So the truth has come out a 100% run is the only true speed run. All other speed runs shouldn't be a thing.

[@Sunbucks]

Was literally scrolling through the comments after he said that to see if someone else picked up on that lol

[@danielthecake8617]

Dude.... The 100% means that you get every collectible, item, etc. Speedruns are made to be finishing the game the fastest, not obtaining everything. Also, according to your logic, Any% is the true run since 100% does Any% "accidentally"

[@Sunbucks]

The point CJ made though is that if you happen to do run A while doing run B, then run A shouldn't be it's own category. By that logic there are a ton of different categories in SMO that shouldn't be a thing as you do quite a lot of them during the course of a 100% run. If you want to flip the logic and say that Any% is the true run because you do it within 100% then in reality 1% is the true run because you do 1% within Any%... (or even 20 jumps, as surely most people would jump more than 20 times before reaching 1%) so yeah in both scenarios Any% isn't the "true" run :P Having said all of that, it's definitely not a good idea to clog up the leaderboard with a ton of categories that are all similar, like how soup% is basically star% but with the very end cut out. So ultimately I agree that most of the rejected ones should be rejected, but I can also understand the flaw in CJ's logic.

[@Celobia]

I think he was making a joke...

[@debblez]

he’s saying if the steps of one are in the steps of the other. Like 100% you get different moons in different orders than in any%, meaning any% isnt actually contained in 100% as a run. Soup% is “part of” star% in a sense that up until the part where you die (basically the last 10 seconds of the run) you get the same moons do the same movement go through the same paintings fight the same bosses etc.

[@Free-4554]

The fact that the one category that “should return” is rolling into a wall a hundred times is probably the most speedrunner thing ever.

[@Ultigames2nd]

I feel like, once the speed runners try to start bonking, somehow, they magically can’t bonk.

[@pinkybarot5838]

Lol

[@highdefinition450]

hey anything can be a category lol

[@dragonster16]

When I heard "20 Jumps" I thought it was a limit on how many jumps you could do in one run, not just doing 20 jumps. I am disappointed.

[@Marian_DRG]

Nipple% is an interesting category. It only works because it is funny and short and has something unique to offer because you have to collect 1000 (?) coins very early and no other run does this.

[@aidanonstot3501]

Yea 1000

[@crazycanyon3028]

But it’s called nipple%

[@TeemoQuinton]

But we should still have grandpa% imo

[@Gameboy-2007-yt]

@@TeemoQuinton why tho

[@Zadanoire]

@@Gameboy-2007-yt *its the same idea as nipple% tho with one less world to go to*

[@cacawsthelaw]

As the person who suggested World Tour Death%, thanks for making this video. Proof that I have great ideas sometimes

[@TurbopropPuppy]

is that a raysfire pfp i see

[@peytongolding7544]

raysQ

[@cacawsthelaw]

@@TurbopropPuppy yes that is a rays pfp, fellow person who gets around the nintendo YT world

[@LJ_973]

Thanks for making a really funny category that should get accepted!

[@toastbrot236]

raysQ

[@Princess_Narii]

I genuinely love the 16 star catagory its quite unique and it is a little throwback to Super Mario 64. I actually think if this could get worked out a little better it could be a really good catagory. It could replace the Star% But instead of grabbing 1 Star you gotta grab 16 of em

[@Revolution-U]

22:58 The bonk being blurred with the pause screen is such good editing

[@Onion.the.first.]

1% speedrun is like the kid who plays a game but rage and never play again

[@solidzack]

That's an interesting description of IGN

[@Taco_muncher]

@@solidzack or dean takahashi

[@dazcarrr]

@@solidzack it's kind of like the dark souls of Mario Odyssey speedrun categories

[@Nat_the_Chicken]

Reminds me of when I look at game achievement stats on Steam and wonder why the hell so many people pay for a game and then don't even beat it, or don't play it for more than 10-15 minutes

[@dazcarrr]

@@Nat_the_Chicken 8% of people that own dark souls haven't gotten the "die" achievement which is either scary or means they never even met an enemy before peacing out

[@StarlightNkyra]

That 20 jumps category was so tense, I was biting my nails it was so close.

[@JoshuaSpeedcubing]

Me too

[@shlokshah5379]

Gamechamp has 0 jumpness

[@bungogrooves]

it was so stressful i grasped my balls and shrieked in fear.

[@brahimatr8863]

Same . But srsly i thought it was to go as far as possible with only 20 jumps maximum lol

[@Fvckallofyou1]

@@bungogrooves you probably shrieked in pain

[@lumensmith9787]

100 IP clips is obviously a bad category, however I would argue that categories like it are good for a speed game because it incentivizes and encourages competition around practicing difficult tricks and also helps new runners have a way to build strong practice habits that gauge their progress in a quantifiable way.

[@DougyBear]

I originally thought odyssey percent would be to obtain all of the collectibles and valuables from each kingdom that you can obtain with purple coins through shops. That would honestly he a very good run, but as it stands just entering the odyssey is too easy.

[@mrlycanroc749]

That bonk edit at 22:59 is insane major props to the editors especially for screwing with CJ

[@devindykstra]

It's 3D and blurs with the pause menu. Amazing effort

[@Buhlockay1]

just motion tracking

[@mrlycanroc749]

@@Buhlockay1 even still way more effort than necessary for a simple joke

[@Buhlockay1]

@@mrlycanroc749 yeah i agree

[@samantharaeburn4007]

Adamais always goes the extra mile, especially for a joke

[@damienmitchell9828]

I acutually kinda liked 16star. There are lots of speedruns in games that require having beat the game already !

[@syntheticsaturn]

take mario galaxy for example; most runners do the run as luigi which requires a completed file as mario

[@thefollower2933]

11:12 I actually thought 20 jumps would've been a run where you beat the game and try this occasionally 20 times and then you go to toadette and see if you oy had 20 or less/more jumps and if you have the run is invalid. I don't know why I thought that but, honestly I think it would be cool even if it was a bit too similar to jumpless.

[@ashcomet8189]

Someone beat the game with zero jumps

[@thefollower2933]

@@ashcomet8189 i know, by "trying to occasionally jump 20 times" I meant "if there's a point where jumping is faster than not jumping they should do it, while paying attention to not jumping more, or less than 20 times"

[@nicolasrededeo805]

I thought 20 jumps was going to be beating the game with at most 20 jumps, so you have to decide where the best spots are in the game to use your jumps the best

[@solidzack]

Granddad% should have the caveman outfit and the retro cap for the finishing requirement as a reference to the real *GRANDDAD*

[@dazcarrr]

Fleenstones???

[@JuneNafziger]

Yea I was actually disappointed there

[@willofthewind]

If it was like this, it might actually be unique enough to be stand out too!

[@dazcarrr]

@@willofthewind it would probably just be a Bowser's Kingdom coin grind to get 9999 since it's the best spot for money in the game

[@Samarex_]

Thank you for doing these runs so we don’t have to. How thoughtful of you.

[@TheCurrymuncher6000]

fr

[@SMOMaster]

Hi Samarex

[@TrippyMK]

Hello samarex love ur videos bro

[@Samarex_]

@@TrippyMK thanks

[@TatsugiriTheFeesh]

Yah!

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

"Grandad%: It's nipple%, but with grandads" really sells the run huh

[@CaseyLabAnimations]

Love that 100 IP Clips requires you to do one before even starting the timer

[@smolbrain2217]

4:02% common mistake with rookie runners, you also need to beat 1% of the kingdoms (cap) and get 1% of captures.

[@johnappleseed3428]

1% of captures is... 0.56(?) captures, so 1

[@FireFoxie1345]

But, already done

[@osc-omb47896]

@@johnappleseed3428 A capture is a capture. You can't say it's only half.

[@willofthewind]

@@osc-omb47896 Well you see, if we half-A press into a half-pressed capture, we can trick the game into sending us 17 parallel universes over and...

[@killedragonyt6353]

@@osc-omb47896 well you cant half capture so then is imposible xd

[@totalphantasm]

i think IP clip would be good if it were slightly fewer, somewhere in like the 30s i think. I think it would increase the odds it actually gets run if it wasnt jsut a RSI waiting to happen.

[@nikk-named]

What is an RSI?

[@nikk-named]

Also: I agree, 100 is a bit too much, 30s sounds like a better suggestion

[@singing.and.sinning7202]

@@nikk-named Repetitive Strain Injury

[@nikk-named]

@@singing.and.sinning7202 aaaah Yeah that makes a lot of sense now.

[@nikk-named]

Thanks c:

[@cameronshand8874]

Honestly I think most of these runs are perfectly fine. We can't really just decide that one meme run like nipple% is okay, but others aren't. It's all just about having fun anyway

[@linhero797]

Other then 100% Any% Low% (And their Glitch allowing varients) The best way to make a joke category is to make something simple. (Preferably something short) But fun and interesting in concept and execution. Nipple Percent works because you need 1k Coins by the 3rd Kingdom of the game. Which is an actual feat, needing you to route interesting ways to get that many coins.

[@happybirthday1945]

Personally, I liked the 20 jumps% the most. It obviously takes the most skill and it’s absolutely exquisite. The utmost skill and power it takes to achieve what cj did is immense. Amazing job jumping 20 times

[@zenmaster8]

i honestly thought that 20 jumps was a speedrun where its almost jumpless

[@delinep7286]

I believe 16 star should be re-visited - can be heavily optimized and decent goal.

[@Someoneidk7808]

Personally, I would put Grandpa% in the "If another tier gets removed", because it's basically reboot nipple%.

[@rpgman161]

Tip: for the 16 stars, you can get the Metal Mario outfit and you will still get the moon

[@Jokeythepiecrafter]

18:22 I just love how that music syncs with his breathing. Thank you editor, my skin has been cleansed

[@BubbleBunnyy]

I watch so many super Mario Odyssey speedruns and I’ve never actually played the game. Idk why I enjoy them so much but I do.

[@osc-omb47896]

If you have a switch, get it! It's an awesome game.

[@wilsongoodfellow8113]

@@osc-omb47896 I wish I could afford it 😔

[@osc-omb47896]

@@wilsongoodfellow8113 Try getting it second-hand? You can always clear its save data.

[@s.o.m3241]

this was the first livestream i’ve managed to catch and it’s so cool seeing it in video form now ☺️ HUGE props to cj and his editor(s) for getting this out so quickly and wonderfully

[@samantharaeburn4007]

Yeah, Adamais did the editing on this one. He's great

[@Kratokian]

100 IP Clips, what a demonstration of skill, little sad it's version dependent but that already matters for a lot of runs, can't wait to see everyone do this

[@mreevee7785]

you can do ip clip on any version

[@tristengray2818]

I heckin love speedrunning

[@Samarex_]

I do to!

[@i_make_beats]

mee tooo baby

[@zakj7169]

cool video! But what the heck happened to Mario’s bounce at 23:57? I got to give props for the editing during the World Tour Death% but, the painting transitions were pretty dang cool

[@chrislawson3536]

Hey I just saw that he was doing a handstand in midair

[@albond]

The editing on world tour death% was awesome!

[@user-jq2vk2ps9d]

Idea: motion controlless % Beat the game as fast as possible, without using motion controls.

[@binarycat1237]

shakeless

[@sinkpig]

Me playing on my switch lite

[@SMOMaster]

If you do another one of these please do Cool-Grandpa% it was put on the forum of normal SMO but lots of people like it You have to get the fashionable outfit and the mechanic cap and jump on the scooter

[@forceofsilver5466]

The 20 jumps category would have potential, if you change it to "most moons collected" or "most kingdoms finished in 20 jumps" (No idea if thats a thing already or not)

[@billcipher8645]

It sounds more like a challenge than a speedrun cathegory tbh

[@kinkajoulegend9989]

@@billcipher8645 like min caps?

[@stevenandrewbeaver5205]

13:44 Mario shrinks when he enters a warp pipe, escape the mecawiggler fight and enter the nearby warp pipe

[@Whatthedogdoin39]

The reason cjay said no to 1% also applies to any% because in a 100% run you beat the game, completing an any% run. Edit: and all speed runs too because you obtain and do everything in the game

[@Aurora_Veill]

And all moons, world peace, dark side, darker side, and probably more

[@RGC_animation]

Yeah, guys, I think we should remove any% from the leaderboard.

[@darkhorse7672]

I have a theory to skip the ruined wire in minimum captures. If you die and capture something at the same time, the game will teleport you to the coordinates 0,0 which happens to be right in the boss fight arena. My theory is this: If you go in to two player mode and walk up to the wire, there will be a pile of rubble to the left. Trap Cappy behind this rubble and then proceed to jump over the edge to the right with Mario. When you are falling down, blindly steer cappy onto the wire right as you die. Maybe if you get it frame-perfect, the game will count this as a death instead of a capture, and you will be teleported into the arena.

[@FireFoxie1345]

Min captures has gone to two as soon it is done

[@schlix]

I haven't watched a lot of your vids but the editors bonk is making me smile everytime! Happy Bonking!

[@ice0shay]

Underrated streamer. So happy to have found him 🎉

[@redacted378]

odyssey% start the game as fast as possible timer starts when the switch starts up timer ends when you pick account

[@Coolestkid69]

Wow these are definitely some runs

[@calebcamp2458]

"I feel like any run that accidentally does another run shouldn't exist." I get what you mean by that, but doesn't that technically mean that 100% accidentally does any%, so any% shouldn't exist? Since any%, at its core, is just beating the game, and 100% does that.

[@danielthecake8617]

Note: you got math backwards, he says "if a run (100%) does another run (Any%) then it shouldn't exist", referring to 100%

[@YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies]

@@danielthecake8617 uhhh... Both of you are saying the same thing.

[@osc-omb47896]

lmao

[@ilexdiapason]

@@YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies no they're both understanding the "it" in his original sentence to mean different things and advocating for different runs to be removed as a result

[@sinteleon]

That only applies if the steps are exactly or almost exactly the same, which isn't the case for 100% vs any%.

[@Sabagegah]

The World Tour Death % montage was a banger.

[@Zack207]

Suggestions for other rejected speedruns: -all wooded nuts -100 dsses -kfrta min caps -all timer challenges post game -nuke% -all coin stacks These are all real things btw most of which I have record for

[@bingmaid]

nuke% actually sounds very cool tbh

[@GameBlock_]

The editing on these latest videos has been really good!

[@samantharaeburn4007]

Yeah, Adamais has been doing them, he's great at editing CJ's stuff!

[@bubbles2428]

I’m so glad that cjya is uploading again

[@franziskazarl4516]

The editing on the world d3ath tour was soooo good!

[@yacob_bryan]

feel the rhythm, feel the rhyme, come on cj it's ip clip time

[@creighdircksen3146]

The editing was fantastic for the last bit

[@TMS-Oddbot]

Honestly, I think you are hard on the 16 Stars%. It's a very nice homage, and it would be even nicer if, as someone else said, the speedrun starts after Mario changes into the Super Mario 64 costume. I am fairly certain you were joking about being cool with the run I'm sure was most painful and tedious for you to do (100 IP Clip). But if not, what the heck? I like the run that was most painful for Mario tho. That route to kill Mario in each and every Kingdom looked fun to try doing with all the painting warps and such. Would definitely prefer that to depending on RNG to get all the animations. I would also prefer the TRUE Soup% to Star%. Honestly, Star% should be replaced by 16 Stars%. The only value Star% has to me is acknowledging the Super Mario 64 homage, but 16 Stars% would do it so much better. As for Odyssey%, I don't know what Softlock% is, but it sounds more interesting than struggling to find an invisible pipe.

[@UnknownBunno]

As a Skylanders Spyro's Adventure Speedrunner, I love our version of Soup%. it our meme using one of the characters with the most clips in the game. We use the air turtle "Warnado" which the community named Soup, to jump over walls and gates. Jumping is impossible in the game so being able to jump over almost any wall is an insane time save. We have called the jumps "Soup Jumps" and they are heavily used in Warpless Any% runs. Our Soup% is getting Soup's (Warnado's) Soul Gem while using Soup

[@KidPlays42]

I do indeed love Speedrunning

[@mich8498]

sure do love speedrunning

[@magicalex2346]

“If a run accidentally does another run, then I feel like that run shouldn’t be a thing” Ok CJ, I guess any% shouldn’t be a run then because it’s completed during AUM which also shouldn’t be a run because it’s completed during 100%?

[@dazcarrr]

The routes are different though, but for 1% you're basically doing the exact same thing as 100% in that you collect purple coins and moons but 1% just stops sooner, for any% you have a different route and same for AUM, since any% doesn't care about getting all moons and therefore goes faster and AUM doesn't collect purple coins.

[@ramennoodle9918]

@@dazcarrr yeah but if one happens to do a 100% run, you would have to complete the objective of any%

[@th0rn3]

16 stars could be a good quick category w more rules, like specifying what state the savefile has to be in at the start (x number of coins, no mushroom purps, etc)

[@dubywuby8646]

‘If a run accidentally does another run, it shouldn’t exist’. You are aware that 100% completes basically all other runs right?

[@lampguy7854]

i-

[@Zalied]

I think it's more of if the routing for 1 run is exactly the same. Sure 100% does all of what nipple% does but the routings different

[@sammer1097]

In the case of 100% it objectively isn't "accidental" though, so there is no logic there.

[@Zalied]

@@sammer1097 the 100% run you do do the same moves as the any% run the routing is different that's all I mean. Whereas like say we did a run category get to the final fight but then it's over. That's just any% where u stop 5m early

[@renyk4903]

We love speedrunning.

[@greydrawstuff895]

we do

[@hollowstoneman18]

I reckon world tour death percent would be more interesting if you started all the way from the start and working your way through the game collecting 500 moons for darker side.

[@kirbwarriork3371]

I wonder what Low% would look like for this game. Any% already gets the fewest amount of stars possible. I guess Min Caps shows us fewest captures. So maybe fewest music tracks, fewest checkpoints, etc. Or maybe a category based around making sure you qualify for the fewest Toadette stars? On the note of Toadette, I bet a few of her stars could make for some fun routes, but I feel like merely accomplishing it should be enough. Having to actually get the star from her means beating the full game, doing a little more, and having to worry about accidentally picking up other stars from her and losing time to them. Jump 10000 times is probably not one of them considering your view of just 20 ;) Max Coins could be neat. Specifically, you get your coin counter to 0 in the post game, then max it out playing Luigi's minigame. The bit of randomness to where balloons could be would be the crazy part of the run. Makes me think of SMM2's 16 courses run. There's this really cool game called Spoiler Alert where you have to play a platformer "backwards". I could see people having fun having to do Any% backwards, starting with controlling Bowser and ending with Cap Kingdom.

[@themeg1039]

I love speed running

[@alf_0845]

@K A D Y 💋 why

[@alwaysdtf2197]

the 20 jumps is obviously a joke, but is there a min jumps percent? as in beat the game with as few jumps as possible

[@T3Draco]

I don't think there's a speedrun for it, but some people have done it before, including CJ, if you check his other videos. (Min jumps = no jumps btw)

[@bloodlust_9890]

@@T3Draco 0 jump is only possible in 2p due to a cutscene in moon kingdom But 1 jump is possible in 1p

[@T3Draco]

@@bloodlust_9890 Did I stutter?

[@sinteleon]

Can't remember if 0 jumps is only for any%, can't remember what's the min jump required for 100% (believe there's a toadette star for jumps?)

[@pl3ysnontinde937]

Trust me when I say that koopa freerunning percent is the future. Do all koopa freerunning moons from the start of the game.

[@soccerty21]

Cappy: it doesn’t seem like we can brute force this Mario: *and I took that personally*

[@g.gidluck6470]

I sure do love me some speed with the purpose of running

[@jaccohelmink7451]

I love speedrunning

[@imbubl]

When you scream, “NOOOO” during the 100 IP clips you sound like Barry B Benson

[@sebasthebookwriter4474]

For 1%, It means all checkpoints (0.85 = 1) All souvenirs (0.52) All captures, ok they are all 1, So 1 checkpoint, 1 souvenir, 1 outfit, 9 moons, 10 purps, 1 music disk, and 1 capture.

[@fub3991]

You know that it’s gonna be a great day when cjya uploads

[@paulhudalla9527]

I do love myself some speedrunning.

[@wansper9297]

I like the idea of more categories that dont require you to start in cap, but instead after having beaten the game

[@gucceh1178]

i think grandad% shouldve had another chance because all cjya said was “its just any% but you do something” thats most speedruns

[@galaxysphere2958]

CJ should get a mod where you can't bonk so his chat is nicer to him lol

[@kcrusade2013]

When I saw the 20 jumps speed run I thought u had to beat the game with only 20 jumps

[@erinium19]

I just gotta say the editing on the compilation of death during world tour death% was top notch. Whoever edited this video, and especially that part, did a phenomenal job!

[@minecraftengineer1877]

I don't know what it is but content of this game never bores me. Probably because you make it fun

[@lulukomadori9651]

For Odyssey, be cool if it was getting all stickers/decoration for it as fast as possible

[@kinkajoulegend9989]

like a "pimp my ride" speedrun

[@PJOZeus]

What about runs that are already on the leaderboards that deserve to be removed? (Such as nipple percent or whatever in regards to ‘any% but doing something like so many runs already are’)

[@Waylonwars]

"If a run accidentally completes another run, i dont think it should be a run" *100% and Any%*

[@Cod894]

True

[@Subspace79]

And every other run

[@decayingfairy3996]

I was watching this to calm down after a bunch of horror stuff n the cut to bowser’s kingdom sounded so much like a doorbell omfg

[@saule3060]

"If a run accidentally does another run, than I feel like that run shouldn't be a thing". cjya 2022. Also Any% with 100%

[@CSmyth-]

Every time he says "soup%" all I think is... Isn't a super-cent just a dollar?

[@jameschassells858]

13:42 Cj be like: Mario use minimize Mario be like: "warp pipe noises"

[@PsydovePsydove]

Hey, 100 IP clips would take me 3 hours, nice job cjya!

[@podimusboss6020]

going in the odyssey in odssey% isnt a soft lock you can just exit

[@RoyalCodyboyStreaming]

CJ growing quick, love to see it

[@wedmoke8856]

Exited for summoning salt to post the “world record history of smo grandad%

[@TeddyJayO1]

I love speedrunning!

[@mick3y2302]

i definitely love speedrunning!

[@thiccnicc6601]

1:24 this is so funny to me. He looks so normal but that go was just so gut wrenching. Cjya could be a good voice actor

[@joshuaplumb9213]

He returned when we needed him most

[@end_slayer]

6:26 most 64 speed runs do that (I believe one percent should stay)

[@onlysmiles4949]

Yeah, but there's a clear difference in the routing of 1 star vs 16 star vs 70 star vs 120 star, (Like, getting 16 stars in a 16 star run is very different than getting 16 stars in a 70 star run)

[@koopagon]

Hmmm... I just beat my god-awful SMG PB with a little less god-awful time. I guess I love speed running.

[@ghostisbehere]

21:12 “What if pesto bismol is soup” a question I ask myself every day

[@coolstylebro2814]

Been a while since I played SMO, but I think you can beat you personal best in 20Jumps% by jumping while moving up a hill, because you land on the ground faster.

[@swolecole]

for 16 star you should have to do any% first

[@kinkajoulegend9989]

There's a category called star% that he talked about where you start from a new file, get to luncheon, make your way over to a painting to mushroom kingdom, then collect a single star. I feel like if you started from a fresh file it would just be star% but with more time spent in mushroom, which would either make star% or 16 stars a useless category