Clare Farrell | BBC One | Sunday Morning Live | 7 July 2024 | Extinction Rebellion

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[@karenlaprairie1450]

Thank you to Extinction Rebellion and Clare Farrell for the years of hard work, public education, community and activism building -- and ALL with little to no financial resources. THANK YOU, CLARE!

[@catalogueofwonders]

Bless Clare

[@andikett4430]

If we don't watch the news we are uninformed - if we do watch the news, we are misinformed !! you go Clare 👍

[@timcoombe]

As always fantastic work from Clare Farrell

[@Humanity101-zp4sq]

What a joker!

[@bield7]

😂😂

[@patrickkelly1195]

Another Don't Look Up moment. Makes me want to scream!

[@annholland7848]

Thank you clair. ❤❤❤

[@SamWilkinsonn]

‘[injunctions] Limit who [protesters] can associate with’. Oh my😬 ‘The public does have a public right to protest, but…’ lol Clare answered the questions really well.

[@Arthur-zn4yr]

Another "Don't Look Up" moment. Civilization as we know it is ending and we're discussing the niceties of happy days in art galleries and racetracks being subject to minor disruption. Surreal.

[@tonygoodchild1730]

"Minor" is the word. Most people are more likely to hear about the protests than be affected by them. Mass-media editors are more likely to prioritise reporting *what* activists did, than exactly *how* Life on Earth is in danger

[@pwollerman]

If it wasn’t for the controversy surrounding their protests she wouldn’t be on the show at all. That’s the point but the host dismisses the threat “I’m sure we’ll come back to that”.

[@rinnin]

Not so much an interview, more of a “Let’s all shout at the activist” session. Bloody disgraceful. Did anyone actually even listen to Clare?

[@SamWilkinsonn]

Listening to her was never their intention.

[@christill]

@@SamWilkinsonn This is the usual method. Any time anyone on the left politically, or an activist comes on, they ignore everything they say and continue with the line of questioning they decided on beforehand. There’s no reacting to what has been said by the guest.

[@PhyzzFizz]

she hasnt got anything to say worth listening too

[@christianzilla]

​@@PhyzzFizzYou can't even use 'to' properly. Ignoramus.

[@bield7]

Yes, I listened to her and, as I anticipated, the familiar well-worn, lightweight ER rhetoric was trotted out. As an side, I wonder how she travelled to and from the studio. By foot or bicycle I hope.

[@jamruss1974]

Only one of the people sitting on the sofa understands what 422ppm CO2 means for their family...

[@pauleaton3578]

Its shot up 5ppm over the last year as well

[@maxwin3D]

So the world as we no it is going to end ... lets park that for a moment and talk about something pointless

[@ArmageddonAfterparty]

Cassandra's gag order. The "journalist" placing the onus of the responsibility of spreading information on the activists, instead of themselves. Anyone still know what journalists are for exactly?

[@MaxVliet]

journalists have been replaced by news-actors, there only to spread the word of the Ministry of Truth.

[@singingway]

Media saying "we are the proper way the public gets informed, even if we are NOT informing them."

[@ReesCatOphuls]

Why has the BBC got a former Brexit party candidate (e.g. now reform UK), GB News presenter, introduced merely as a journalist/ commentator. Inaya Folarin Iman should have been pressed to ask if she even believes in the climate crisis. Another shocking broadcast by the BBC.

[@FishAndChipsDude]

There is no climate crisis but you are correct that it is a belief, in a quasi religious way.

[@franklangholf2698]

I am from the US and agree complete. What a failure of the host to press the question to Inaya about her acceptance or denial of Climate Change. It is not the activists beleifs that need to be communicated but scientific facts.

[@singingway]

"that's the failure of your arguments" of volunteers sacrificing time away from their families and their jobs, versus the billionaire well paid fulltime cushy Exxon PR departments...

[@jean6453]

Inaya Folarin Iman really does not think there is a climate crisis, that is the issue here. Her focus is on the subjects of race, identity and culture. Perhaps we will one day get her to understand and join us.

[@FishAndChipsDude]

There is no climate crisis.

[@DroosterH]

​@@FishAndChipsDude You've convinced me. I now get all my scientific information from "FishAndChipsDude" on KZbin. I've been so stupid listening to people who've devoted their lives to studying climate.

[@tonygoodchild1730]

@@FishAndChipsDude Funny you should call yourself that, Dude. Fish have been overfished, and potatoes are in short supply in 2024 because climate change has disrupted potato planting 🤡🤡🤡

[@booblizard104]

She's a GB news shill so she's absolutely terrible at "race,identity and culture" too.

[@kirkha100]

Are you entitled to act in self defense? Personally? Or if the planet you need, to live, is being killed?

[@SofGdggd-xt9lw]

I think the relevant legal principle is 'prevention of a greater crime'. There aren't many crimes greater than this.

[@christill]

Normal service resumed after the election. We had our five minutes of hope with JC and 4 Green MPs. Now back to this same talking point that they’ll seemingly use until the public wake up. The delay tactic of focusing only on the disruption has worked for the establishment.

[@adrianaspalinky1986]

❤ Extinction Rebellion

[@victorschwanberg]

Don't look up!

[@dayamay8221]

Reminds me of that Bill Hicks sketch - oh, the worlds burning and we're all going to die horribly...here's Tom with the weather!!! The disconnect from reality is astounding. Everybody is just desperate for business as usual to continue. It is mind-blowing!

[@williamblack7400]

Heroic

[@timtam2126]

Claire kicks ass...power to you Sis!

[@AlanTov]

Nice job Clare.

[@NubianPrince85]

👊🏿right on

[@cellinacell]

They still won't discuss climate change!!

[@fionagillespie86]

Yes, because people need to WAKE UP!! HELLO! .... ❤🌏🌎

[@pwollerman]

Useless host

[@houmm08]

Not sure Inaya properly digested Clare's opening remarks and Inaya's 'failure of your arguments' point was utterly pathetic at this point. Never heard of her, so I looked her up and ohhhhhh surprise surprise, well I never 🙄🙄

[@johnnyeduardo2441]

Get a better anchor

[@vidiad]

sustainable to sustainable...needs

[@BadassRaiden]

XR needs to shift to being explicitly anti-capitalist. I know they have said that the anti-capitalist sentiment turns a bunch of people off, but so be it. Being explicitly anticapitalist opens up a whole new host of ways to go about protesting, simply because if you aren't anti-capitalist you wouldn't protest in those ways. The reason I say this is for two reasons. One, explicitly anti-capitalist protesting is WAY more disruptive than any other nonviolent form, because it is designed specifically AROUND capitalism, which IS THE singular reason for the climate crisis. Anti-capitalist protest is the "balls to bones", no-pussy-footing-around what we are fighting against. The other reasons is just that; the fact of the matter is that the cause of ALL OF THIS IS 100% because of capitalism and it NEEDS TO END. Period, end of story. All of these demands of XR asking politicians to stop funding fossil fuels is pointless, and it's pointless because as long as we live in a system based around profits, as long as money exists - that simply WILL NOT HAPPEN. Full stop. Billionaires and wealthy politicians don't give a shit about the world ending, because their money has damaged their brain into thinking they can wait it out in some bunker for a decade or two with all their stockpiled shit. Capitalism is at the heart of this crisis, and it needs to be attacked directly. If it isn't, literally nothing is ever going to change.

[@sticky70]

When you’ve read a few pages of Das Kapital and use the word explicitly… Just because you write long and drawn out explanations of what you demand it doesn’t make you right.

[@BadassRaiden]

@@sticky70 Nothing about what you said makes any sense, in any context, regarding what I said. Go back to your cave.

[@BadassRaiden]

@@sticky70 I use the word explicitly because protest movements, especially those against the climate crisis, should make an effort to put on full display the fact that they are specifically anti-capitalist because it's capitalism that lead us here. I've never read Das Kapital, but you don't have to read Marx to know capitalism is the reason for the climate crisis.

[@47nrubreddew]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@OrianJamieson28]

Clare had really good points but they kept cutting her short

[@bield7]

I missed them

[@markdavy1596]

No matter how much the State and system tries to impose their will, the more people will resist, it’s about doing the right thing for humanity. The system is bigger than politics, countries, economics, it’s to protect the entitled, the investments and the interests of those who benefit from it, at the cost of everyone and everything else.

[@richardkelly9156]

I have already done this!! Law!! 😡😡😡 Injunctions against unknown people!!!!! It is IMPOSSIBLE IN CIVIL PROCEDURE RULES CANNOT BE FOLLOWED OR APPLIED!!!!!! TELL JCIO!!!!!! INJUNCTION IS NOT VALID!!!!!!!!!

[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

I would ask XR to talk about something people really care about, not their lives but their property value. Works better in the North than human life…

[@RaoulTeeuwen]

Interesting suggestion! On a climate march in Amsterdam/Netherlands i did make a sign about property 'under water'

[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

@@RaoulTeeuwen In California the largest home insurer, StateFarm is asking for a 30% increase in policy rates (on top of a recent 20% increase) and cancelling 72k polices. It can’t handle paying out for all the wild fire damages. Insurance is hemorrhaging money everywhere, especially in the West. Insurance is a necessity for mortgages. It secures property value. If they go under, *poof* another GFC, but more like an economic extinction event. The West will care more about home prices than its own lives.

[@singingway]

@@GhostOnTheHalfShell good point

[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

@@singingwayPeople can get more worked up if someone is after their house. The world is huge. They know their house. It’s immediately of value. Same might go for that last cup of coffee as all the growing regions wither away. And because billionaires are doing this, there’s a culprit to focus on. I prefer Koch and his cabal of seditionists. Or Nordhaus, the economist lackey that told the world not to worry our pretty heads over the climate. Demands to jail them and restore people’s lives has a fine tradition of torches and pitchforks.

[@kerryfirehorse]

The vast majority are ignoring the fact that we are racing to our destruction & are ignoring the climate change issue even though people are doing radical things to draw attention to it. It annoys and frustrates me that the critics of the protestors are happy to just let things sail along as they are. Even if it means shouting over them when they’re talking. LA LA LA , everything is fine, no need to make any changes.

[@singingway]

@@kerryfirehorse while sitting in a giant air-conditioned studio burning vast amounts of fossil fuel resources to produce shows and to present mostly distraction and entertainment

[@Magda-ko6gj]

Woman, black, how does she think she got that voice to speak publicly?! Protest and disruption!

[@mushmyth]

well done Clare -God, the lady to your left was horrific.

[@christianzilla]

If people would simply look at the data and the implications and truly understand it... they would freak the fuck out. And rightly so. We most probably have already missed the only window we had to act and change things. Xtinction indeed.

[@abody499]

unwatchable - that these kinds of people with this level of thinking still get the time of day on TV sums it all up

[@quanty30]

The banality of evil - BBC interviewer

[@achenarmyst2156]

I am all for comparability 👍

[@esc8engn]

@5:40 Too late. The public is going to have to take a burden if we're to actually halt the damage done. That public in this case includes corporations, governments and individuals.

[@jahmah519]

People please for the sake of each other, just speak the truth & do something about misinformation, its not rocket science, straight to the point, if you dont care then let someone do something that shows that amongst us there are those that care, when you lie you know you're lying & aint no 1 out there intelligent enouth to remember all the lies they told, but do you really need to lie anyway, you do something & you or someone witnesses an adverse effect then common sense should kick in, it really should, no matter how devious or malicious you are, lies catch up with you & all this, everything that goes on is the truth regardless, June 22nd was a testimony of what XR stands for, the inevitable consequences are what humanity represents.

[@kismypencek6185]

Way to go Claire 👏👏👏 The dim whit conversation that could have been pulled straight out of a 70s interview from them reinforces how brain washed the culture still is. I love your points of reality check, up against the victim shaming they were participating in. The public does not think they can pressure change. They have been infantile to be passive if they get a new lip gloss or flavored pint.;)

[@Humanity101-zp4sq]

Claire Farrell sits with azo dyed hair and clothes preaching about subjects of which she has little or no expertise. This just about sums up the nature of the modern world and the quality of the debate. 'I'm right and you're wrong.' No content, and no meanngful justification.

[@briansalkas349]

People who do nothing for the climate crisis love asking if activists are going too far.

[@nickheadd3390]

But what have the activists done?

[@ojo1979]

What a waste of time. No info was disseminated here. I was surprised by the so-called journalists not having a BP advert on her blazer.

[@PhyzzFizz]

did you type that on your keyboard made from oil, powered by electricity made from oil and gas, in your oil based clothing in your oil powered house on your oil based sofa? its a dull day, no solar power for you today, a dull day for a dull mind

[@ojo1979]

@@PhyzzFizz dull mind? Bit of projection don't you think. Shame no one invented plastic not made from oil, or did they? Nah oil companies are the most trustworthy of them all. No problems whatsoever . Carry on.

[@vidiad]

YOUR BETS !

[@jamess1442]

#DONTLOOKUP

[@bettyswallocks6411]

The presenter did a very good job of allowing the denier plenty of space by cutting off the protesting voice.

[@pauleaton3578]

What happens when the food starts to run out?

[@PhyzzFizz]

we tell farmers to grow more food and stop planting trees

[@SofGdggd-xt9lw]

Very often, conflict, international or civil. But even without that, it is experienced as poverty and hunger. Climate disruption is already affecting agriculture and food prices of course, with the wet planting season here one example, or look to droughts in California, but really we should look decades ahead. Downward pressure on harvests means more pressure to convert remaining forest, adding to ecological tipping points. We need to throw everything we have at forestalling those trends.

[@ManDryver]

A surprisingly good debate.

[@adrian-mu3jr]

The problem is that most people are too lazy to think. Whether that is politics or the environment. Most people are too busy watching celebrity goggle box.

[@sophieincolour]

What appalling interviewing. Just a mash of talking over and no conversational development. Irresponsible shallow media, as normal.

[@vidiad]

mussels cooking on beaches...in canada

[@bettyswallocks6411]

Peaceful protest is a vital element of any democracy and should never be restricted in any way. Telling protestors they should accept their punishment with one breath, and then saying those same protestors haven’t done a good job of putting their message across is beyond the pale, but typical for climate change deniers.

[@richardallan2767]

This far in and they are still concentrating on the method rather than the message. That said, messing with stonehenge was dumb.

[@FishAndChipsDude]

Stupid is as stupid does

[@jonnash5196]

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar

[@anlazyshoe]

Clare Is a sexy God

[@PhyzzFizz]

as frank zappa said, god is dumb and a little ugly on the side

[@FishAndChipsDude]

How does the world move from fossil fuels and by when can this be done? What technology is required? Hydro / Solar Panels / Wind Turbines / Something Else? How many and where? 2050 energy will be 50% more than 2020. How to offset for no wind or too much wind or no sun? Batteries or pumped hydro? Capacity? / How many? / Where? / By what year? Currently. 14% Renewables 1% Other 1% Biofuels 2% Solar 3% Wind 7% Hydro 4% Nuclear 23% Natural Gas 27% Coal 32% Oil

[@SofGdggd-xt9lw]

You don't say what the figures refer to, but presumably total global energy consumption for a recent year. In terms of technologies needed, the ones you list, but several more to remove fossil fuels from transport, heating and industrial processes, so for example heat pumps for heating and a choice of molten oxide electrolysis or power-to-gas green hydrogen for smelting ore. (A sustainable circular economy would mean less inorganic inputs overall, but you asked about fossil fuels.) There is a lot of work on energy storage to balance the grid, where the CCC has modelled multiple solutions, flow batteries, V2G, thermal and kinetic (flywheel) storage, pumped hydro and so on. See Mark Z Jacobson's _No Miracles Needed'. So zero-carbon infrastructure is feasible and necessary in both developed and developing countries. The question about 'how fast?' is more contentious. So the new UK government targets a fossil-free electricity sector by 2030, which is good as far as it goes, but something like Climate Equity Reference Calculator or Tyndall Centre or CUSP suggests much more ambition is needed. For me, the two most important parameters are the remaining carbon budgets and capacity in terms of skills and resources. The loosest interpretation of Paris RCB IMHO would be about 350 GtCO2, which means straight-line global net zero around 2040 (sooner for developed countries with capacity). For an even chance of 1.5 °C, the central estimate is only 200 GtCO2, although not having precise figures for aerosol forcing and cloud feedbacks mean it could be more, or increasingly likely less. If you care about nature or avoiding an eventual sixth mass extinction like the end-Permian, one answer is 'as fast as we possibly can'. If we'd started earlier, it could have been a much more gradual transition, but there has been a very effective campaign to distort media and politics (see eg Big Oil v the World on iPlayer, or the PBS frontline version here somewhere). Tricky moral question: to maintain fossil asset prices a little longer, or to imperil human existence? Take care.

[@FishAndChipsDude]

Fair enough. You don’t know.

[@SofGdggd-xt9lw]

Sorry if that sounded like a politician's answer or I misunderstood your question but it seemed quite broad. I was pointing to a few resources to help you answer your questions about technology and speed of transition, but much of this comes down to policy decisions. So for example University of Edinburgh publishes a lot of resources on long-duration energy storage, number of TWh needed and available in the UK etc, but how that is deployed depends on national targets, local planning and so on. Suppose you have a headline demand to cut NHS waiting lists to 1.5 million. Researchers, professional bodies and political parties might model different ways to achieve that, but you don't need to know all that detail to campaign for the target because it's important for health. Likewise, there are (or were) different models for 1.5 °C, including IEA NZE and IPCC Special Report on 1.5. The fact we're not following anything like either is the biggest problem facing us today. For me, the world, not just governments and UNFCCC but publics, needs to agree the remaining carbon budget knowing what is involved. En-ROADS and C-ROADS are simulators that help visualise these pathways. The Climate and Nature Bill, soon to be reintroduced to parliament, takes a view on the input constraints (400 GtCO2 from 2020), but like the Climate Change Act doesn't prescribe particular pathways. In fact, like Extinction Rebellion, the CAN Bill recommends delegating it to an informed citizens' assembly. Hope that makes sense. If you're still looking for explainer videos, try Simon Clark or Just Have a Think.

[@achenarmyst2156]

@@SofGdggd-xt9lw He is not asking for information. He is looking for disruption.

[@SofGdggd-xt9lw]

Well, why didn't he *say* so? 🙄 Looking for disruption may be some common ground. 😀