How Negan Killed & Saved The Walking Dead

[@ClashedPR]

Make sure ya'll go to expressvpn.com/clashed for that 3 months free 😏 I hope you guys enjoyed the video, sorry for the delay, I'm graduating high school this month!

[@emeraldashtree]

congrats man! best of luck with the ceremony

[@duk6897]

bros segways are goated

[@hammywoods]

Sheesh congrats on graduating!

[@conq2203]

Thats some nice advertisement bro

[@finley8606]

Good

[@MrLynamYT]

I feel like Villains don’t always have to die, Negan definitely proves that

[@geniusmp43]

He was more of an anti-hero

[@shubhroy7960]

@@geniusmp43 ohhh he was definitely a villain when we first saw him. Now he's turned into anti hero

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

@@shubhroy7960Naw he’s not an Anti-hero he just corrects people with bad rat tails

[@chaos-leader559]

It already proves long ago . There is something called "Redemption arc" or "Character development" 😂 Negan doesn't start sh*t

[@manuelk1853]

Yeah they actually die too often

[@TheRealWoopSlap]

The writers keeping Negan alive is what saved s10-11 for me. His redemption arc & interactions with Maggie were what kept the show somewhat interesting during those seasons.

[@LaCream973]

He doesn't die in the comics

[@art1moose]

Same

[@rayleigh8]

Him and his arc is what killed the show for me and for most of the fan base. The show was the most popular show on tv before Negan, by the time his arc ended nobody was watching.

[@kjellandersson4416]

​@@rayleigh8dude they dont do 4-5 more seasons when nobody watching haha cut the crap my dude 😅

[@rayleigh8]

@@kjellandersson4416 which is a surprise because most ex-fans like me were asking themselves, that show still on, when we found out that it was still on. Show went from the most popular tv show in the country to one of the least watched, all because of one character and his arc. Negan destroyed the show.

[@greenninjacam]

Negan Carried the last few seasons

[@TheHomelander88]

Daryl too

[@shinanuwenda]

La 9 et la 10 oui! Il est ennuyeux dans la 11

[@risottonero8015]

Yeah but the problem is that season 10 and 11 were not as good as s1 to s6. Surely he had a great evolution but I think he was just unlucky of being in the "worst" Twd seasons ( I refer to s10 and s11).

[@User0155]

Negan(not only him tho) definitely killed the show, how it was. But he was one of the best characters in the show it became. I still prefer the „old“ walking dead, but the new one is also good and better than I expected.

[@TarEQtoxC]

Agreed 👍

[@theinvinciblebbtha]

You really forgetting why Rick killed them because negan group bikers stopped Abraham, Sasha and Daryl and almost killed them and then got sploded by Daryl!

[@jjkilhij9531]

Facts, even if the Outpost is deemed as a questionable decision, it definitely wasn’t unprovoked. They tried to take out a group that they knew was a threat to them and their new allies (Hilltop) Trojan horse style (from the inside).

[@tomato2517]

Exactly. And the saviors were 100% gonna kill one of Rick’s people and take over the group’s resources when they inevitably found them anyway Negan fanboys and the dumb fans who watch this show really act as if Negan was some poor innocent dude trying to survive who had to retaliate; he was gonna attack them no matter what.

[@putinsneighbor8351]

@@jjkilhij9531 I don’t know why people were crying over the outpost saviors. It’s literally the same saviors that had pictures of bashed in skulls on the walls of where they sleep…

[@tifosi4life]

But our pros also killed/almost killed Negan's people. Yeah saviors are definitely bad but killing innocent people and children was definitely an act of cruelty.

[@theinvinciblebbtha]

@@tifosi4life children?

[@yahoo_vevo]

Honestly I’m so thankful someone has expressed nearly perfectly exactly how I feel about twd, it’s so annoying seeing the generic NPC people saying constantly “this show died with Glenn” when quite literally the show was still insanely good after.

[@ClashedPR]

🔥💯

[@shubhroy7960]

Can't blame them. There's always the main character, and then there's YOUR main character. For some people it was Glenn. I don't think I would watch any further if either of Daryl or Carol died, because they were my favourite from the start.

[@brianachim2670]

Well not insanely good right after, it took a few years.

[@Steger13]

Exactly ''i never left still my favorite show today can't wait for the spinoffs

[@Razorally]

@@shubhroy7960 My main character was Negan so that made the watching experience very fun Season 8 onwards

[@manusbrandish]

To be honest, I couldn't believe it when I found out the Walking Dead City would have Maggie and Negan working together, but apart from that, Negan was one of my absolute FAVS of this show. Comic and show

[@Steger13]

Rick is the best tv series hero characte ever made '

[@manusbrandish]

@@Steger13 Real

[@whoareyou6854]

@@Steger13 Nah Rick is boring compared to Negan. Rick has always been a self righteous character meanwhile Negan keeps it real and excepts himself for who he is plus he’s hilarious.

[@manusbrandish]

@@whoareyou6854 😧😠/j

[@Akaza.2023]

Yea compared to Negan you are right.

[@Pokentoon]

Crazy to think Negan had such a huge affect in twd and tbh him and daryl were the only reason i stayed till the end

[@lildudeweed]

THANK YOU, I thought I was a psychopath and was the only one who thought this with how much talk about twd season 7 and afterwards.

[@Nickkkkkkk344]

Imo what killed/seriously hurt TWD is the huge amount of filler episodes each season. In the earlier seasons it wasn't as bad as the side quest episodes felt new. Each season would have benefitted so much more if it had been 8-10 quality episodes rather than 16+ with all the filler episodes. The Negan war really dragged on too long

[@ClashedPR]

^^^^ boomerang storytelling

[@marwilir]

Just imagine if they did it right, and some negan hater still watch the show, it would be great to see their reaction on "Heres Negan"

[@StreamlinedGaming_]

I agree. Too much screen time was spent on side characters that I just didn’t care that much about. Too many characters taking screen time away from Rick, Negan, Daryl, Michonne, etc.. 8-10 episode seasons would definitely improve the shows quality overall.

[@danielhatake3317]

And in real life, people insulted him and wanted to kill him

[@ClashedPR]

Yeah dude it sucks. JDM got wayyy to much hate and still does.

[@ClashedPR]

@Blue Bird you should’ve seen the subreddits I was researching for this video. Entire groups of people saying he ruins every show he’s in.

[@jwolf7840]

@Blue Bird hes in the boys?

[@Sunnybias]

When you’re such an amazing actor that people can’t get over their feels in real life. Damn. People are sick.

[@leontschiersch5195]

​@@ClashedPRDamn its like people don't care about negan's backstory how his wife got cancer

[@ThePumpkin_Jack]

My mom was one of the people who left the show after Negan, but I never did. This year, I made her rewatch the show all the way through, and she admitted that it was good and should’ve stuck to it.

[@DiggzShowz]

Same happened to my mom, she loved Glenn as a character so much that when he was killed off, she screamed and hated Negan (also quit the show). I then begged her to just watch till season 10 at least, now she enjoys his humor and thinks his character had a huge glow up!

[@KeNNyKennyYT]

I wondering, why people didnt left the show when Governor killed Andrea or Hershel? Glenn even wasn't perfect, the are alot of major characters that was better that him in my opinion.

[@binheve]

@@KeNNyKennyYTGlenn is a fan-favorite character, so yea

[@DeadX2]

@@DiggzShowzGlenn is mid tbh overrated af

[@Ryujin13x]

I did not stop watching, almost did when Carl died because I read the comics, but I did not stop watching until Andrew Lincoln Disappeared.

[@jbcom2416]

I wonder how Negan and Carls relationship would develop post Andrew Lincoln had producers not killed Carl off.

[@jamesm2078]

This was such a well put together video. I personally think The Walking Dead has been really consistent and I can understand where people are coming from with Glenn dying and Negan still being alive, but Negan really redeemed himself and the controversial decisions the show made were not enough to make me stop watching the show entirely.

[@stormbox4286]

In the politest way possible, and with spoilers, could you explain How Negan redeemed himself?

[@matiascugno6977]

​@@stormbox4286the whole Idea behind Negan's imprisonment is for Rick to make Carl's dream real, where even Negan is a functional member of the community. Negan redeemed himself by accepting that his clownish personality was only a mask to hide the pain of losing his wife. And finally moved on, you can see that he really is not that cocky soab anymore. And actually seems to care about shit. Contrary to popular belief, he cannot redeem himself just by making people trust him, he needed to change.

[@thepro3k_watches656]

Well in the book Negan lived the entire time

[@bradenbmw]

Glenns death was perfectly fine tbh, I think it was a good idea to kill him off actually, Carl dying was a terrible terrible choice though

[@12potatos]

bruh hes a sociopath. ya'll are problematic for even thinking he can redeem himself. Its the same as thinking the governor can redeem himself TF?!

[@zciwklagg6111]

you have to remember that the reason a lot of people don't like s7/s8 is because they watched them as the episodes were coming out. I watched every episode when it came out and have recently rewatched the whole series on Netflix and s7/s8 are much better when you are binging. Having to wait multiple weeks for the group to fight back along with multiple month breaks in between the mid season and between seasons makes those seasons feel like they took FOREVER. When you are able to watch both seasons in one sitting they are genuinely quite good.

[@Aes_EditZx]

Frrrrr

[@Sunnybias]

Negan was the best character for me. His development is 10/10, he kept surprising the audience and his story was never boring. Plus the actor did an AMAZING job!! He carried the show after Rick left.

[@dominicalmonte3992]

I really loved the episode where Daryl was getting tortured by Negan in that cell. It was a great way to establish the saviors more and give some insight to what Dwight went through

[@IIIISai]

dwight sucked negans balls so hard, hated his character

[@abel9291]

Negan actually made me want to continue the show, at first because I wanted revenge for Glenn and Abraham, but then, when I started to know the character better I thought: " This dude actually cares about people ." And saw many videos on what makes him a good leader and why he always lead the Saviours, then he got his redemption ark with the whisperers and so on, and just like you said, he became one, if not, my favourite character.

[@IIIISai]

ehhhh he doesn't care about people, he cares about himself and he needs slaves to survive in that apocalypse without doing work

[@A_youtube_channel_]

I didn't think i'd ever like the show if negan wasn't dead but suprisingly within just a few seasons I wanted him to be an accepted member of their group.

[@LifeBricks]

I give you a lot of credit man, for you still being relatively young your scripting and maturity of relaying it is incredible. Definitely an easy listen and that’s a good thing!

[@ClashedPR]

Thanks so much bro

[@TinySortSpyd3r]

Bro thats so true

[@parkeranimations3671]

Did you really just say Rick is bad person for killing saviors but negan is not comparable cause he killed two people? Do you not realize negan has killed hundreds of others before he got introduced?

[@Razorjaw86]

You watched the show in a binge format, you didn’t have to experience the long waits fans did, the cliff hangers and expectations, so you’re experiencing the show in a different way than others

[@ClashedPR]

100% agreed. I wish I was old enough back then but I was like in 5th grade when Negan was introduced 😂

[@karalynspeaks4267]

@@ClashedPRyeah I did a bit of both bingeing and watching it air in later seasons because I was super young as well

[@skibicki1464]

i also remember hershels death as a young kid eating breakfast being really annoying because i liked him lol

[@dora1980]

I'm 44. I watched it all and the spinoffs on Netlix in 40 days in March and April. Seasons 9 and 10 were unbearable, Alpha was funny not scary. And why did they think that the Whisperers story had to last 2 seasons , and one of them had to be 22 episodes? The first 10 or 12 episodes of season 11 were very good but the rest were slow and boring. I think this is the best way to watch TWD and I understand why millions of fans stopped watching the show in the end, It's not because they replaced Rick with Negan but because they killed some amazing characters and they replaced them with people we don't even remember their names.

[@noahwilson4311]

Negan wasn't that bad of a guy. "If anyone moves, cut out the kid's other eye and feed it to his father."

[@dora1980]

And let's not forget how the tiger saved Carl!

[@TheBallsMuncher]

bro is an edit channel on shorts and an info channel on mainstream ☠️

[@bodyinspector2775]

I agree for the most part, but negan wasn't just "a leader looking out for his group". He tortured people, stole people's wifes, killed and terrorized innocent people, etc. He WAS a villain, despite Rick's questionable actions Negan remained being a villain, and that's why his redemption is so compelling. It shows how far a person can get if they can't deal with their loses.

[@cngotham4111]

Yep I was with him until he did the stereotypical thing of saying negan wasn't a bad guy when he did some of the worse shit. Remember his people started to fight when they wanted to steal all of Rick's group shit. That was enough to show rick that negans people wasn't exactly innocent.

[@Getstr8cash]

Lucille’s death really made him broken and unhinged/cold

[@dora1980]

@@Getstr8cash Not really, it's a cheap excuse to justify his crimes. He was a tyrant who had slaves and stole their food and their belongings. That's why Rick attacked the saviors. Don't forget that the saviors killed all the men and the boys in Oceanside. Noone mentions that.

[@TM--87]

That outpost episode had me on the EDGE OF MY SEAT. And how the episode ended with the girl on the radio was crazy.

[@Treeducky08]

The ep after that was only good the first time, rewatching it I just couldn't bear to watch it again lol

[@TM--87]

@@Treeducky08 I know what u mean lol.👍

[@GulpGulp.the.Kitten]

@@TM--87which episode was this

[@GulpGulp.the.Kitten]

@@TM--87 ok ty I haven’t watched season 8 in year or two so I forgot

[@battyofficialyt]

@@TM--87 It’s in Season 6 and it isn’t called that 💀

[@Sarahc-mn1tr]

For me i was done when carl died. We also lost our cable. Negan did not ruin it to me. Neither Glenn's death since it was close enough to his fate in the books. It was also cool to watch daddy Winchester as negan.

[@Ur_A_H0]

most people don’t get that he was gonna die to negan no matter what cause they can’t change a big detail in the plot but carl was just financial problems with amc

[@corbincavitt635]

Rick worse than Negan? Fuck no, Rick always did what he had to do. Were those decisions popular all the time? Definitely not, but i could understand it from his point of view.

[@jocamartins1823]

i am sorry, but the truth is that after "that scene", twd never recovered and it will never will, millions of people stop watching, and thats facts, its sad but it is the truth.

[@ClashedPR]

It’s incredibly sad and incredibly true. The show never recovered just from that episode

[@joshuanelson6795]

Just because a lot of people couldn't handle extreme violence and the death of a beloved character (they're watching the wrong show if that's the case), doesn't mean it was a bad decision. The episode itself is executed brilliantly.

[@DeadX2]

Cry lol Glenn is mid

[@fellowpassenger_54-67]

Negan is fun to watch and I don’t hate him, but it’s strange to me that his defenders always overlook the fact that the saviors provoked Rick’s crew first in season 6 when some saviors provoked Daryl, Abraham and Sasha When that’s taken into account, it makes sense that Rick would want to strike back considering that the saviors could attack them again at any time without them knowing, sure Negan might not have ordered them to do that but that doesn’t matter since Rick and co had no way of knowing that So in conclusion, Rick might’ve struck back too excessively but he wanted to take them out right away before they became a massive problem akin to the Governor and the cannibals, so he wanted to have the best possible chances of survival

[@hammywoods]

I always find it funny when ppl say "I stopped watching when negan killed glenn" while simultaneously the other half of ppl say they're still watching because of negan

[@MasterHall117]

“When Rick had the biggest ego possible” Walter White: are you sure about that?

[@HermskiTV]

I LOVED Negan since his first appearance in the S6 finale. I always knew it was going to be Glenn that got the bat, but only because I heard about it from people who had read the comics. The S6 finale cliff hanger made me want to read the comics, so in between seasons I bought all the issues & caught up with the comics. By the time S7E1 premiered the comics were already passed the Whisperer War, so I had a good idea of where the show was heading. It's mildly frustrating seeing the show get so much hate from ex-fans because they all chose to be weenies and stop watching the show following the death of Glenn. All Out War is an amazing segment in the storyline, and then follow that up with the Whisperer War + Negan's character arc and the story holds up as strong as rock. I'm not going to act like the show writers didn't mess up in a lot of areas (the biggest f up being killing off Carl) but I will confidently say that The Walking Dead did not deserve as much backlash and loss of viewership that it received following the premiere of Season 7. So many "fans" couldn't wrap there hand around the symbolism of Glenn's death. He was literally the last bit of morality left in Ricks group, and with Negan's introduction, any lick of morality left died as soon as he stepped out of that RV.

[@inegoshow]

Don't call them "fans" with quotes, man. Those who watched until Season 7 didn't just watch to hate the show right after Glenn's death. People have their favorite characters (by your comment, your favorite is Negan). It happens. TWD is my favorite TV series and I dropped it after Carl died. If you want to blame someone else, blame the writers/directors.

[@Bennjipie]

i still believe that there is no reason to have let negan live especially since he killed 2 of their people

[@joshuanelson6795]

Thank you for giving Season 7 some much deserved love. It has its flaws, particularly with the pacing in the second half, but I've never understood when people say it's one of the worst seasons and that it killed the show. Negan, much like his comic counterpart, was a fantastic, charismatic villain and I loved seeing our protagonists completely defeated at the beginning of the season, only to rise up and defeat the Saviors (temporarily) by the end. Detractors also like to say that this where most fans stopped watching The Walking Dead, which simply isn't true. While admittedly lower than the previous three seasons, Season 7 still pulled in an average of over 11 million viewers per episode, which is higher than the first three. Season 8 is when the viewership truly began to dip and even that season, for all its flaws, isn't the abomination a lot of people make it out to be. It's usually (but not always) the Glenn fanatics who say that Season 7 ruined the show.

[@IIIISai]

Alright I'll say my piece, I'm not a glenn fan he's actually very overhated, here's my opinion tho - Recently rewatched the show and got on season 7 episode 4 today, I started the rewatch couple weeks ago, every season has flaws no doubts but the first 5 seasons flaws were very small compared to the really good aspects to them, it's why and many others consider the first 5 peak, season 6 is also really good but has multiple questionable moments, the last episode of season 6, Daryl led a chain reaction that got them all caught my negan, and then the episode later daryl got glenn killed, they made daryl one of the most likable characters up to season 6, very annoying for the finale and to season 7, now the action, we all know the charactes went through so much to get to Alexandria and then they faught the herd, rick became leader, deanna died, and they won, and then not even 6 episodes later, instead of celebrating a new world, negan takes over, not even 6 episodes later, or 7, it was exciting to finally see them just hunt for food without enemies for a change, season 6 episode 10, with rick and daryl looking for food, the jesus introduction episode, was sooo good, anyways so skipping to the negan part, the atmosphere of the show change dramatically, wasn't happy, and there was no suspense, negan took all their guns, rick said he doesn't wanna fight and he was okay with the slave lifestyle, everyone besides a couple characters listened to rick, and then negan half the time keeps teasin rick about being thankful, he talks wayy too much, i loved when the govenor was killing people, my issue isn't dark themes, but rather negan coming so soon, and when he was here, he stayed for 32 literall episodes, ya know how boring that is? and when there's no suspense because we know negan has the numbers, and we didn't see negans origins until season 10, he was just a crazy sociopath with good social skills, sadistic and his followers were delusional, he can be evil, and i actually find him funny, but his reign on the ground was boring and was too one sided, rick teaming up with that garbage gang forgot their name, was so corny, I don't even know whos idea it was to create such a community, and the kingdom was also silly, especially the giant tiger, through out season 7-8 we kept seeing too much new communities introduced suddenly, yet our characters never saw those communities before negan took over, i also thought negans relationship with carl was cringe, how can u kill two group members, laugh about it, enslave the father/leader and then try to bond with the son, when in another scene he almost also killed carl, his close call death was so corny, when he started crying and rick cut him, he would be better off if he was cold like the govenor and didn't care about carl..he also didn't kill anyone relevant after Glenn and abe, how can u takeover for two seasons and not kill anyone we care about after the first episode, it just felt like no progression was made through the show, also you're telling me after season 5 and 6, in 7-8 we still in Alexandria? that got stale quickly, Alexandria was cool in 6 but the negan run made it become stale, when the govenor was a villian, he didn't own the prison or their guns, so it felt like thr group can leave anytime, or even make a deal to leave the prison for hershel, while with negan it was one sided, we know as the audience he would be winning, the way the main characters beat negan were kinda plot armor, all these magic communities coming out of nowhere to help?? Didn't mean to write this long it just happens sometimes in twd threads, im criticing negan and season 7-8, and yea that second episode was so out of place, first episode negan killing main characters, all traumatic ( not for me but still), then the next episode it's about morgon and carol in a kingdom, literally so out of place, i literally quit my rewatch even tho i was enjoying it so much, because season 7 was so boring it was hard, like every season after was worse, i genuinely believe season 7 ruined the show, it was so slow paced, weird writing, s8 was the same thing just part 2, season 9 was also bad except the rick "death" episode, season 10 not much better besides the negan episode, then seaso11 was high quality, couple good episodes but alot of the characters were so boring, it's the atmosphere brother, the vibe of the show, the first 6 seaons just felt special, felt exciting, negan came and it was numb, slow, boring, dead, no suspense no surprises, it's crazy because before negan caught them, the vibe was great, scary, we didn't know what would happen, that's when the show is good, we knew everything when negan took over and made it boring , hopefully this comment made some sense

[@joshuanelson6795]

@@IIIISai Your comment was really difficult to read and comprehend due to the lack of spacing and punctuation.

[@mysterio8226]

​@@IIIISaishut up

[@ОлександрПарасоткін]

Negan also alive in the comics, so I don't know what people so surprised about. It's not like it's a secret.

[@thothrax5621]

to be clear, rick did not kill "hundreds" of saviors

[@HELLFIRE0239]

Its important to note that Negan (character/actor) didn't kill TWD The sloppy writing with lots of fillers was simply boring. The Negan Arc could've been told in one Season, also the walkers were not a threat anymore

[@CorporateTakeover_]

had no clue there was so many Negan haters out there, hes my favorite.. 😔 it's a goddamn tragedy

[@Flopfist]

I've always thought the show started falling off after season 7 and then didn't get interesting again until the end of season 10

[@amogussy345]

Who else thinks Negan is the funniest character in the whole of twd?

[@ClashedPR]

Yes he’s the only comedic relief especially during the Angela Kang era. All the other characters’ jokes never landed ☠️

[@greenninjacam]

He is the funniest

[@manusbrandish]

Me. Fr. Along with Eugene

[@dodomcbrande88]

Abraham still barely edges him out for me in the comedy department

[@manusbrandish]

@@dodomcbrande88 Oh yea! I forgot abt Abe!

[@SwellHell]

The cliff hanger choice where you had to wait a year to see who Negan killed, was bullshit. Then they killed off Carl which was once again bullshit.

[@DanielHuizenga]

Yes Rick is bad but Negan is not better. Don’t get me wrong I love negans character he’s so complex and Jeffery dean morgan plays him amazingly. But just cuz “Negan only killed two of their people” doesn’t include everyone else he killed or the fact that he pressured all those women into sleeping with him and the fact that he just went around to every community taking “half their shit” Negan does make up for what he did in my opinion. And the way they handled the Maggie and Negan story line in the finale is beautiful.

[@ditotron9560]

For me the reason the show really fell of in season 7-8 was the pacing the biggest problems with season 2 and season 4 is that half the season is just horribly paced making the show boring. Seasons 7-8 were not as bad but it was like that the whole season. Of course Glenn dying made a lot of people stop watching which just added to the problem. The reason seasons 9 and onward (some of my favorite seasons) failed was because the hype was dead and people expected the same thing just without rick, which was a huge blow to the series.

[@dora1980]

Seasons 9 and 10 were extremely slow and all the new characters were boring , all of them from Princess to Yumico and her friends. The same happened with season 11, ONLY in the second half of the season. I agree that some things were going very slowly in the farm and also in the prison. Season 8 for me was the fastest, that's why I love it so much.Maybe some people hate it only because Rick spared Negan's life.

[@mike48931]

The scene with Glenn’s death completely respawned my interest in the show. The only thing I didn’t like about Glenn dying was the faux death he had just recently had. IMO it is the most effective death in the series and it was a fitting death for an important character like Glenn. The only problem I have with Negan is that the tension between his group and Ricks, as well as others, went on far too long. The show didn’t truly die to me until the Whisperers. I hated their group and the leader was annoying. It just got too boring for me and I was done waiting in boredom for half a season just for one episode every once in a while that made it somewhat worth it.

[@lightlybatteredjustcrispy]

imagine gatekeeping a decade old zombie tv show

[@Jes1919]

I think the show for causal viewers stopped was how many seasons the show already have. Most shows have 1-5 seasons and it can get repetitive for normal viewers.

[@slendersera]

Something to consider is that 'hindsight' might have helped your perception of the show. You already knew at least a few spoilers and were able to brace yourself for what was otherwise traumatic for the original viewers. Plus, you were probably able to binge it versus painstakingly waiting for the new episodes. Sometimes, a disappointment hits far harder when it's dragged out. But as an objective third party who never watched the show to the point of Alexandria, I have to say that Negan seems very charming from the clips I've seen.

[@boardasf699]

The reason the show died was cause it was hopeless and they turned badasses into literal slaves. Daryl was a badass in s1-s6 and he ate dog food. The reason terminus was such a good episode looking exactly like this one was cause the characters were badass but in s7 there hopeless that's why most people stopped. It wasn't just Glenn's death. Say he died in s6 like it wasn't nick who died but also glenn people still kept watching it was cause of how he got killed

[@purpIesky]

i find it weird some peeps couldnt handle Rick's group losing really badly for once

[@boardasf699]

@@purpIesky imagine let's say the biggest badass who went through battles won many fights gets inslaved by a literal gamer

[@struan8467]

@@boardasf699 I mean idk what they were meant to do against a group that massively outnumbers them...

[@boardasf699]

@@struan8467 look at terminus. They were hella outnumbered and escaped. Also look at what happened at the prison they were outnumbered and won with no one dying in those

[@bruhhh997]

are you 12 years old?

[@jacksonstjean6627]

I stopped watching TWD around the time Rick left. I just felt the characters that were left weren't enough to interest me.

[@coltontnp]

My girlfriend and I started watching the entire series again back in august and finally finished it a month or two ago and I absolutely loved the entire thing, very much excited for the new shows.

[@trixmtll1393]

negan didnt kill walking dead, his actions killed the audience. i dont know if there was a way to do it less sudden and brutal. but i think glenn was too pure to go that way, it was too free and we didnt need to see his eyes bust out and his smashed after brain, and twitching figners. i only saw that scene once in my life, years later im still affected by it.... in the sense that its a never leaving disgusting image that just exists now.

[@Bedbug451]

Nice vid clashed also I can’t wait to see how they handle Negan in dead city and I NEED Negan and Rick to reunite!

[@Braincleaner]

the problem with TWD was that it would have an ep covering one characters story line, end it with them in danger, then not go back to that character for 3, maybe 4 episodes, so the danger was no longer a cliff hanger it was just...cold. you'd forgotten why you needed to watch this ep "too see if X makes it!"

[@Tristan_Homewood]

You’ve convinced me. After years I’m gonna return to the show

[@XxN0NUk3B005T3RS25xX]

It gets mid and boring pretty fast

[@lynncameron8100]

ricks group didn’t kill hundreds during the outpost raid, they only killed 24

[@Mainframev1976]

I know talk about annoying.

[@Omni_Lead]

I think the war between Negan and Rick is the best part of the show. Especially the 3-4 episodes when they attack the prison and Negan meets Gabe in the trailer

[@HELLFIRE0239]

It was fun but stretched, it could've been told in one Season

[@nerucheung]

been binge watching since a month and I'm at season 11 now, such a great show and wished I started watching earlier

[@Treeducky08]

I agree with the video, but i feel like you're sugarcoating Negan. Other than that, the video is completely factual

[@tomato2517]

This is insane dickriding. Anyone who defends Negan’s actions when his people attacked first, enslaved innocent people like the Hilltop, killed teenagers and were savage people who were gonna attack Alexandria anyway are fuckin braindead

[@ClashedPR]

Yeah I definitely am, just wanted to get the point across better

[@shubhroy7960]

No it's not. There weren't "hundreds" of people killed in the satellite outpost. More like 30. It's not factual.

[@shubhroy7960]

@@ClashedPR Sorry, man. I really like a lot of your videos and shorts, but this thing about hundreds in the satellite outpost is just bs. No hostility here. Maybe you saw the episodes long ago and didn't sit with a notepad or whatever

[@ClashedPR]

@@shubhroy7960 yeah bro, the issue is I’m starting to forget key details of the show and I don’t have time to rewatch it either. I’m going to be referring to episode descriptions whenever referring to details in my future videos now so I won’t make as many mistakes. I’ll improve ❤

[@yashdwivedi9450]

Negan is a good character, indeed . But it’s really hard to accept that he killed Abraham and glenn barbarically in front of his group and people just ignored it and let him live like what happened with Glenn and Abraham doesn’t matter anymore , only Carl’s wish matters. After negan’s capture, it seemed like only maggie and Daryl care. It still feel like he is being forced to integrate with the group by the writers . Also, Maggie’s confusion about killing him is done purposefully, making her more unlikeable and negan more likeable, if someone has watched walking dead,dead city. I really think negan is kept alive because they had to remove Carl and rick . JDM is a fantastic actor who can carry forward the show with his acting after their death.

[@unfortunate1313]

I think after the departure of Rick. Negan and Daryl really were the sole reason I kept watching. Though I wish I could see how Rick would have handled the whisperers.

[@struan8467]

comics are worth reading, you'll see how (a slightly different) rick deals with the whisperers, and tbh the comics are addicting imo

[@unfortunate1313]

@@struan8467 yeah, I started reading them, and I'm in the prison arc for now. And I liked the comics' version of the prisoners way more!

[@ClashedPR]

Rick and the whisperers is something I’ll always dream about 😢

[@unfortunate1313]

@@ClashedPR same 😭. I didnt expect to see the legend reply :O

[@sp00ki-p9y]

Idk why but I died when you called Simon, “Trevor Phillips”😂

[@DiggzShowz]

Hello Clashed PR! I love your videos and you inspired me to make TWD edits and content, started 5ish days ago and it's going well! Appreciate you a lot

[@adeilson.oliveira]

You're absolutely right, I can confirm I stopped watching the day Negan finally showed up and killed Glenn. That's not just me, everybody around me used to watch The Walking Dead. We never return to watch again. And even seeing some cool stuff now, my interest just dropped. Not because of Glenn or Negan, but because I'm so tired, I don't know, I just wanted a happy ending.

[@benchkidedits2820]

I hated negan myself first as well, but I loved his charisma and couldn't help falling for him a little. As I got older, I started seeing things from a bigger overall perspective and this video sums that up perfectly. I always stayed with the show just for him.

[@BarrywHiteFTW]

"We pissin' our pants yet?" "Bro, I pissed myself hours ago when you blocked us on the road the first time." 😂

[@Lordamraphel]

😂🤣😂

[@MatthewLetendre]

I think I'm one of the few that liked the show to the end. I had to finish the show because it was a long jouney and me a my Dad watched it together. He died two years ago so I didn't finish it with him. I'm looking forward to the Rick show and the other spin offs.

[@95davidt1]

This show is a great exemple of how being greedy doesnt always work, "yeah our show is popular so lets just take out the main character that everyone love (Rick) and get him off the show to do walking dead movies because thats gonna pay a lot more" yeah unless viewers drop off and years later spin off is the only thing happening and it has 0 cultural relevance now

[@oioioitm7689]

I stopped watching after Glenn died but after a couple of months I picked the show back up and it was pretty good; Negan quickly became my favorite character after Andrew’s departure.

[@kellygrace7528]

y’all didn’t even care that much about glenn. most of you stopped watching because of the way he got killed

[@TWD-Smash]

That was the best setup for an advertisement I’ve ever seen 🤣🤣 I’ll download it!!

[@thepro3k_watches656]

Man I loved Carl and it made me sad and tearedup a bit but I carried on with watching the show

[@mrb0mb243]

I laughed my ass off when he called Simon Trevor Philips 😂😂😂

[@nickcampagna9907]

I love season 10 and feel that it is punished for the bonus episodes. Also Negan is my all time favorite character and feel that the blame he gets is for killing Glenn and showing everybody Rick was not invincible

[@cngotham4111]

I think when walking dead went bad it wasnt the negan character that was bad it was dumb deaths,slow writing and terrible choices. Negan has always been a highlight to the walking dead and hes only gotten better over time.

[@themarshl]

The brilliance of TWD is that everyone is a villian in someone else's story. If we followed Negan and the Saviors the whole time, Rick would be the most evil character in the show. Same with the Commonwealth.

[@shaquizz6128]

At least someone finally said it it's so true just like you said if it was negan we were watching the whole show instead of Rick we would be vouching for negan and not Rick but crazy that people don't think about the other standpoint of the story

[@captain4318]

Half true. Yes, Rick would've been the big bad attacking them.. but Rick still wouldn't be more evil than Negan. Negan would've never been a protagonist like Rick. Rick never forced woman to marry him, raped woman, punished with extreme measures - sometimes over awful or false reasons.

[@IIIISai]

nope, rick and guys wouldn't look like the villians, negan was literally a bad person why do we have to spell it out for u

[@michaelcrawford3663]

Hey man I don’t wana sound too negative and I was one of the what 70% of people that stopped watching the walking dead after Negan was introduced but I feel like you aren’t completely understanding why some people stopped watching. For so many of us who started at the beginning we remembered how kind and optimistic Ricks group could be. We related and empathized with these characters we all became so invested in these characters we gathered around in groups to talk about it at work and school and at home with friends and family. Their struggles were heartbreaking to watch and every death or dramatic scene was an emotional gut punch to us. The biggest reason me and I feel so many people quit after Negan killed Glenn was because we had been metaphorically beaten over the head too many times to count and it had all started becoming too hopeless and depressing. We stopped believing ricks group would find peace and happiness and could just exist, there would always be another fight, another loss, Until there was no one left. I believe you could make the case it really started with hershell but when it really started to ramp up was when we started losing people like tyrese, Noah, the girls, and especially Beth. AMC started beating fans over the head with wave after wave of death and loss for what effectively felt like no other reason then shock value. Why bother caring or being invested if everyone’s just going to die and this will go on forever. Glenn truly felt like the last ray of hope and optimism in the adult characters so when he was taken out as well, really what was the point anymore. Which is exactly the same reason people tuned out after carl died too, if even the future generation Caint move and live on then what’s the point of fighting and trying. I should also mention at this point peoples bloodlust for anyone that wronged ricks group was truly at a fevor pitch. Everyone conversation with friends and family was meet with well they should just kill them and move on. Kill them all etc. Negan didn’t have to die right away obviously but much like the spectators in the gladiator games of Rome the people demanded blood and sure the emperor has the final say just like amc did but going against the wishes of the masses was an upsetting move. Just because Negans a great character and even though his reasons for living where presented you Caint easily sway the mobs opinion on such matters

[@dora1980]

One of the best comments. I watched TWD and the spinoffs in 40 days and it's the first time I loved so many characters in a series. They had to kill the best characters to shock the people. Carl's death made no sense. For me keeping Judith alive made no sense either, they replaced Carl with Judith. And they made Daryl her babysitter, they destroyed his character. In the last 3 seasons I was afraid that they would kill them all, Aaron and Gabriel were two of my favorites, thank God they didn't die .And Maggie does have great chemistry with Negan but they almost destroyed her character in the end, even in Dead City she's obsessed with Negan, taking revenge although he has diffent feelings for her.

[@ayanmafi4494]

Negan(Jeffrey) is the only reason I started watching walking Dead... He is the most badass villain I've ever seen. And TWD fans just couldn't take it how brutal he was and charisma of other characters was overtaken by negan that's why TWD fans stopped watching it. And started saying that they hate negan , the thing is he was meant to be hated. Just last thing I'm going to say -“Pissing our pants yet?”

[@Copebroo]

holy shit negan was tracking rick's IP this whole time? I KNEW IT! ngl that is the best transition to a sponsor i have EVER seen lmao

[@HA5HGrimes]

💯

[@amlo_06]

I didn't get it🤔

[@Aquasky05]

People just don't understand, its that you have to watch the show from start to finish to understand the storyline, not watch the show from start to one of their favorite characters dying, I personally disliked a few deaths but watching the storyline shows how certain characters can change and redeem themselves, The Walking Dead is my #1 favorite show due to the fact that, that it has likeable characters and hype.

[@itskidaz]

bro made a 60 second ad in a 9 miunute video

[@jojordziii]

Negan is a top 5 character, his development is great ngl.

[@scyrexbot]

dang bro, this video was really entertaining, keep making videos like these because they are very fun to watch.

[@rednelsanx]

The real reason many people stopped watching in season 7 is because it got too bloody, literally, i have been told that from several people who watched the show at that time and truth is many people watched twd beacuse of zombie genre, but a sadist killing one or two of your favourite characters in front of everyone while they cant do anything to stop it and showing every single piece of brain popping out of their heads in the most cruel way possible? That shi is NOT for everyone, some of us dont even think about it, but believe people is not used to watch that kind of thing, and negan kept beign a sadist bastard the whole season

[@natey3647]

Negan and Gabriel became one of the best duos in TV history!

[@simonh.5993]

Amazing video bro. Sponsorship on top of that. The script flowed and everything was clear now that's the shit that I need from you

[@ClashedPR]

Thanks so much man. Since I’m not monetized I hope I can continue to get sponsors every video so I can pump out content more!!!

[@emeraldashtree]

i never really had a point where i hated negan. the group killed a lot of saviors, the saviors killed some of the group. sure, the saviors were objectively worse than the group, but negan’s humor 100% redeemed him for me

[@brandoncoffey851]

I'll be first to admit, I stopped watching shortly after Glynn died. And while the writers may have changed Negan a bit and he basically carried the final few seasons with Daryl that doesn't make him a forgivable character no matter how much time has passed. Yes, Rick was bad in ways, He killed an outpost sure. But Rick's only real crime was his ego. He was doing what he thought to be right because these people, the saviors, were threatening his people. Negan was cruel, forcing people to live in hellish situations to survive. From cucking characters, disrespecting women, and stealing resources from independent outposts with threats and acts of violence. He was never above murdering, killing, taking what he wanted. He was basically a worse version of the governor. The man had massive amounts of charm and sure was terrifying but his level of plot armor was unforgivable. Charm, fear, and overwhelming strength do not make a man undefeateable. The show goes out of its way to show some of the awful situations Negan puts his own people through because of his greed. Some of his own people are straight-up living a life that is worse than death. At least the good people are, his fellow evil minions are living the high life and get off by taking what they want with overwhelming force. And yet we are told no one tries to get back at him and lives, because somehow through the combination of his charm and strength, he is unstoppable. Knowing things he shouldn't and imposing, forcing his will onto others. If even half the things he did to his own people happened to me, I'd of worked tirelessly to kill him. And my best option would probably be to become a trusted asset to him and then kill him when his back was turned. He carried a bat, and all his people carried AKs, you do the math. You can't tell me not one of the minions he did wrong didn't want him dead and couldn't kill him. As a villain, he is both amazing and unbelievable. All of that culminated in a decision of the writers to keep Negan around because they were attempting to make him appear more humane and slowly making him a somewhat good guy. Honestly, Negan is basically what every man wishes he could be if he had the guts to do what he wanted to do with no consequences because he is perfect in every way. I mean the man has a harem he brags about constantly, one of those women being the wife of one of his closest lieutenants. But no fear and plot armor keeps him alive. It's literally some guy's dark dream/ wet fantasy. Yeah true, the good guys have plot armor too but this one is ridiculous and a slap to the face of many Walking Dead fans. Especially when you think of the graphic novel Negan. Obviously, everything in the graphic novel was 100 times worse. But pretending to be a good guy is something he did in the novel. And then guess what, he turned right back around and was evil again. So there is also a trust element to this as well. Watching a favorite character get brutally murdered would make it hard enough to trust the man no matter what good deeds he did in the last few seasons. But knowing what I know about The Walking Dead source material, you better be certain I will never trust the man, regardless of Glynn's death or not. I say all that because you talked a lot about Negan saving the show but only mentioned 2 things about how he killed it. There is a lot more to what Negan did than what you mentioned in this video and those deserve a mention in a video literally called "How Negan Killed and Saved the Walking Dead". I agree that the direction the writers have been going in now has him on a redemption arc that those who are left watching find interesting. And on his own as a villain Megan is phenomenal. If you take away his plot armor and revise some of the events of seasons 6-8 to make vegan more believable by making him more clever, instead of relying solely on his overwhelming strength and charm to be the answer of why he got away with everything for so long then the Villian would be perfect instead of a slap to walking dead fans everywhere. Naturally, I did not like Rick letting Negan live but I can't complain about that too much since that is what happened in the source material loosely. And it is clear a lot of fans who still watch enjoy the new Negan. But bottom line I think this video deserves a remake. Or at least a retitle. Title it How Negan saved the Walking Dead. At least then I couldn't fault you on that and it would make my entire argument null and void because like I said, I don't know what Negan did or does after Rick lets him live. So I have no argument for that.

[@Paul5013S]

Who tf says JDM‘s acting was bad? His monologues in the S6 finale and S7x1 were perfect and the entire time he was portrayed as I would expect him to be: A cocky piece of shit, who got used to being the one in power, at first, later a struggling leader, when a not so onesided war broke out and his leadership was questioned (a breaking image of superiority). Especially the moments when Negan’s amused facade breaks, when he is shown resistance and his position is attacked, are acted perfectly. Later, JDM made the character redeemable with his performance while somehow still managing to believably maintain his characteristics from before. Negan is not my favorite villain (Governor) nor later anti-hero (Shane), but not because he is bad, just not as perfect as these two. The last thing to blame for that is the acting.

[@IIIISai]

a shane fan, govenor fan, and jdm acting fan? u are a goldmine, but in terms of character and impact yea shane and gov SHIT on negan, i think negan genuinely was super boring bruh

[@keyproblems7590]

What killed the show was the writers making Negan a 2 season Villian. That’s 32 episodes. It was so drawn out it let to a ton of extremely slow and boring episodes with nothing happening. Which then made some actors like Jesus want to leave. Worst decision I’ve ever seen a show make. Yes, Carl and Rick leaving tanked it more, but this was the start of it

[@dora1980]

Many things killed TWD, but the woke agenda was the first. Then it was killing so many amazing characters and replacing them with new boring characters (seasons 9-11). Yes the show became very slow not because of Jeffrey who is a great actor but because of the bad writing.

[@patrickbateman8265]

I absolutely agree, negan is one of the best things to ever happen to twd, this show will forever be my favourite, best show oat! Along with breaking bad and the sopranos

[@N-GinAndTonicTM]

JDM is the only one with the same charisma and screen presence of Andrew Lincoln, and you can't change my mind.

[@dora1980]

That's why they replaced Andrew with Jeffrey. But they already lost 15 million people at least in the U.S.

[@RatchetEvolution]

Rick didn't attack the saviors for no reason. First of all, they attacked Rick's group first with that group of bikers that Daryl takes down. Then because of the deal with Hilltop. Negan was going to all communities to kill one person then slavering them. How can you even say that Rick is the bad guy?

[@hman378]

They are both the bad guys

[@mysterio8226]

​@@hman378 no

[@RatchetEvolution]

@@hman378 No, Rick isn't. He is only defending his family. He uses violence wisely.

[@ClashedPR]

My bad bro, my memory is really foggy of the exact details.

[@kiingsama9441]

​@@RatchetEvolution didnt abarham and sasha drew blood first when shooting thoes saviors cars. But man both sides are bad it's the apocalypse thiers no moral high ground rick and gang went into a outpost first killed like 40 people all for a cow.

[@illbetheone779]

I loved TWD up until Negan starts to play mind games with Rick. They both take a ride in the RV and Negan commands Grimes to get his ax after he throws it out into the mist that is full of walkers. I couldn't watch my hero get broken. I am glad you enjoyed the show.

[@DaroXs2]

I love negan he carried the last 2 seasons!

[@harrisonmcbride196]

I just finished the series and I loved it! Can’t wait for the spin-off shows!

[@Rawr_Donut]

I get why people took such a shock/hit when glen died, Completely understood. But I honestly do think season 7 is one of the best seasons just because there's just so much packed into one season and as Negan once said ''its a roller coaster of emotions'' you got friendship, hate/anger, love... and even some straight up wtf moments xD but come on lets be honest the moment we heard ''easy street'' likeness of the Negan kinda went up, Shit is catchy yo

[@topy706]

carls death was the biggest mistake of the entire show. walking dead was ALL about carls story. just how in the first telltale walking dead it was all about clementine. representing the future of mankind.

[@captain4318]

Rick wasn't worse than Negan. Sure, his personal kill count might have been higher, and they acted first in the hopes to save themselves and the other communities from Negans tyranny. Don't forget how Negan treated his people, how he punished with extreme measure and sometimes over shit or false reasons too, how he forced woman into marrying him, raped. I love both characters and Negan is pretty much the best the show had to over in later seasons, but in his past he was not a good mean. Not at all.

[@miroslavsirakov8780]

The Negan storyline, which lasted for 3 f***ing seasons was the most annoying thing ever.

[@jonathanfaulhaber2775]

Something you gloss over here is the wives he kept as sex slaves. A lot of people who hate Negan want him dead specifically because of that. I think the show missed an opportunity by not having him express regret for doing that. Otherwise I agree he doesn’t deserve the hate he gets and he’s the best character in the later seasons.

[@ClashedPR]

Very true, I was specifically focusing on his character from writing perspective but one of the things I don’t like is how they brush over that. Ezekiel briefly mentioned it in S11 but he didn’t really care.

[@marwilir]

Well even before the apocalypse, negan already a cheater, so thats explain a lot why he didnt regret it

[@reznor5413]

@@ClashedPR um Clashed? They weren't sex slaves. None of them were "required" to sleep with him, there was 0 punishment for refusing sex, even if they were his wife. It's definitely a human-rights violation since Sherry had to be his wife to spare Dwight's life, but she was never forced to sleep with him, that part is completely up to the wives if they want to.

[@reznor5413]

@@ClashedPR Remember, Ezekiel said he "coerced women into MARRYING him" not sexual coercion, marriage coercion.

[@Osama_2shiesty]

Tbh my favorite seasons were 5,6 and 8, I really didn’t like how Glenn got killed off but I loved the way how Rick wanted to kill Negan, the very first time I seen the episode where he spared Negan I kinda pissed me off ngl 😂