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[@goblin457]

Think you should do a full length reaction upload to the next story on KZbin I'd definitely support you on patron if I could but feel the need for a full length KZbin reaction the next story and one coming up obviously no spoilers deserve a full reaction for KZbin 😬

[@markdavidson9100]

Nice comment saying The Doctor and Adric is like a father/son relationship. Not having a male companion for a while and from his age, like grandfather/grandson relationship, he’s even got Susan’s haircut

[@johng5859]

Matthew Waterhouse has cited this as his favourite of the stories he appeared in, and I can understand why. Adric gets some very nice scenes with the Doctor here, and despite his inexperience you can sense Matthew trying to raise his game to keep pace with Tom. It also boasts some lavish and very atmospheric set and costume design, and I really like the imaginative way that the Keeper gives us the scene-setting infodump, taking over the TARDIS and using the scanner to tell his story - it is another example of the stylistic innovation which is such a hallmark of Season 18. Your excitement and enthusiasm for the closing stages of this season is infectious - can’t wait for your reactions to the next few episodes…

[@whobp8]

The oldest of the male Consuls in this story is played by John Woodnutt, who has previously appeared in Doctor Who as the owner of the plastic factory in Spearhead From Space, the Draconian Emperor in Frontier in Space, and the Duke of Forgill/Broton in Terror of the Zygons. The oldest of the female Consuls is played by Margot Van der Burgh, who previously appeared as Cameca, the First Doctor's "fiancee" in The Aztecs. Geoffrey Beevers, who plays the voice of the Melkur, was the real life husband of Caroline John ( former companion, Liz Shaw).

[@danivarius]

The Tardis was simply displaced in time by the melkur, AKA one of the Master’s tardises.

[@bobchisholm7487]

It is funny to think that by this time, there little kids that had never known another Doctor.

[@SteveInScotland]

The Melkur gave me nightmares for weeks! Something about it’s shape and those glowing red eyes.

[@edzeppelin1984]

I always forget how good this story is. I don't rewatch it very often, but every time I do I always think "oo, that's better than I remembered".

[@ENLIGHTENMENT789]

The actor who plays the Keeper, plays a different key role in Shada, which you are leaving until last.

[@robalexander8065]

Adric is Alzarian. He heals quicker than a human.

[@robalexander8065]

@@CubedSausagefromScarparius Tegan hadn't appeared yet.

[@alexfletcher5192]

Writer Johnny Byrne was familiar to John Nathan Turner for his work as script-editor on the BBC's highly-acclaimed adaptation of the novels by James Herriot, 'All Creatures Great & Small' (since revived on Channel 5) - on which JNT had served as Production Unit Manager. But it's really his contribution to Gerry Anderson's live action sci-fi classic 'Space: 1999' that landed him this gig. The brief centred on how a culture adapts to its head of state or the reigning symbol of power being snuffed out. And who or what might replace it.

[@joshbostock_2040]

The Keeper of Traken does feel like the beginning of the end, I love that this story has a more high stakes feel even though its set on this smaller scale planet. Also its really good seeing more of the residents and history of a planet as I feel like it's something Doctor who doesn't do often

[@forkinhell3545]

Trivia titbit, Melkur was played by Graham Cole who went on to play Pc Tony Stamp in the Bill.

[@markbelsom3174]

Really good story Keeper of Traken. Also Margot Van der Burgh who plays the older council member was in the 1st doctor story The Aztecs,the lady he almost married. And John Woodnutt was in Terror of the Zygons.

[@frankshailes3205]

John Woodnutt was also the Draconian Emperor in a Pertwee story.

[@sdball01]

​@@frankshailes3205 And one more, re John Woodnutt... He was also Hibbert in 'Spearhead From Space'. :-)

[@frankshailes3205]

@@sdball01 I knew I'd forgotten one! Of course - thanks!

[@edwinhiley6281]

Robin Soans, who plays Luvic, later had a small role in the Peter Capaldi episode Face the Raven.

[@CRINOTH]

Melkur is certainly playing the sneaky card! I feel so frustrated on behalf of the Doctor and Adric at that cliffhanger. :)

[@markdavidson9100]

John Woodnutt- The Duke of Forgill and Broton the zygon hissssssssssssss

[@swilliams937]

He also played Hibbert from the doll factory in Pertwee's first story Spearhead from Space!

[@battlegirldeb]

I haven't watch any DW for a long time now, but when I saw you started these episode I had to comeback.

[@AubreySciFi]

This one is my favorite story of the season. I love the Keeper of Traken. Great design, story, sets, costumes and direction. And a nice return appearance for actor Denis Carey as "The Keeper" who had previously played Professor Chronotis in "Shada", the story which would have closed out season 17, had it been completed in 1979.

[@TomEyre]

Yes! Love this story and the contrasts it sets up - a world of harmony visited by evil, the happiness of a marriage hiding the sadness of impending loss.

[@morningcoffeecat2271]

My favourite story of season 18!

[@Eltonlaleham]

Johnny Byrne was awesome as a writer he sadly never worked on Blakes Seven but worked on Space 1999 and when he wrote his script for Keeper of Traken he did not feature the Master in the early dratfs instead the villain was a rogue spirit from a galactic race called Mogen and the dr and Mogen had met in an untelevised story but as things went JNT requested that the story be heavily altered to include the Master

[@Joey15811]

This obsession for cybermen makes me look forward to you next seeing them even more!

[@ruairiedwards8616]

And so it begins…

[@philippaine2169]

Great reaction as always 😀

[@derrenlodge6502]

Do you not recognise the actress that plays Consul Katura,she also played Cameca in The Aztecs.

[@robertdoherty5316]

BIG! Classic who fan, just curious are these "first" time watching reactions? Scratch that, they are lol 😂 can't wait to see your reaction to you know who in part 4

[@stephensinclair3771]

Always liked this one.

[@ListerDavid]

I love this story

[@hylerj]

Your instincts are very good. Except about the cybermen lol

[@goblin457]

Really like this story

[@derrenlodge6502]

This story is written by Johnny Byrne, who created the tv shows All Creatures Great and Small and Space:1999. You must check out a bit of Space:1999 as well,when you get the chance!

[@robalexander8065]

Byrne wrote for those programmes but Bill Sellars created All Creatures Great and Small and Gerry and Sylvia Anderson created Space 1999.

[@edwinhiley6281]

I think I read somewhere he created Heartbeat.

[@derrenlodge6502]

Yes,I think I mat have got the programmes mixed up a bit. Sorry! Heartbeat and All Creatures Great and Small,wrote episodes for both as well as episodes for Space:1999 and some episodes of kids show Pipkins.

[@robalexander8065]

@@derrenlodge6502 I didn't know about him writing for Pipkins. Thanks for the info.

[@bananasaregood8655]

Oooh were getting closer to the end…😔😔

[@shinpowerpelt]

i wasn't able to fully enjoy this story the first time (as i was a bit annoyed that PBS accidentally aired it instead of The Invisible Enemy), but after watching it again, i really did enjoy it thoroughly.

[@thomasstevens2746]

Nyssa first appearance

[@forkinhell3545]

Aaahhh Nyssa, happy days!

[@geoffmason7215]

Cybermen inside...good guess with limited info at the time...would have been interesting...great reaction

[@swilliams937]

True! Although in hindsight, it was an overly complicated plot--a hallmark of the Master!

[@Faerie_Kim]

I'm excited

[@eclecticdog2k901]

I’ve always found this story a little slow and struggled with it because of that, but it’s got some very nice worldbuilding-if a bit too nice to be interesting, perhaps, and yet not quite nice enough to be consistent.

[@johnreid5676]

Gareth roberts always say this is the beginning of a new era, a area he felt started with Sarah janes departure I would say I enjoy watching his story back to back with warriors gate as it compliments it Shows the red writing of The script editor he could swap styles from the previous story Although like warriors gate this has a great fairy tale feel to it snd Tom Baker still has ideas up his sleeve I love adric but he’s hated I don’t know why

[@davidbull7210]

The design on this story is beautiful. You've got elements of Arte nouveau, Gaudi, Klimt. The men look Shakespearean, the women pre-Raphaelite. Not my favourite story by any means but gorgeous

[@jellybabiesarecool4657]

Joey Elliot posted a spoiler

[@ianmansfield68]

I'm afraid I never took to Adric, and couldn't wait for him to be written out!

[@SamuelBlack84]

You think he's bad what about Chameleon?

[@mattiow9664]

Bog standard story about a statue in a park ....nothing to see here...move along....😉🤔💕

[@Cruithneach]

I see some folk still don't understand what constitutes spoilers...or perhaps they do and are just being knobs

[@kalamaike]

people love this story but its honestly my least favourite from s18, its just kinda boring imo but hey still good ish

[@alexfletcher5192]

Despite the pan-European Art Nouveau aesthetic, 'The Keeper of Traken' is more Walpole than Wilde. The romantic tradition of an essentially privileged society being threatened by some 'evil', though, is still very compelling. Now travelling with a single male companion (for the first time since the 1st Doctor and Steven Taylor became embroiled in 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve' back in 1966), Tom Baker's Doctor seems like a semi-paternal figure. Matthew Waterhouse (Adric) conveys his appreciation of this story on the DVD/Blu-ray commentary and it's appropriate. Whereas a strong-headed Steven or Jamie might have clashed with this culture, the boy genius seems strangely at home. And he's not the only child performer worthy of attention here...

[@mark-s]

I liked this one story the tardis does seem empty with only adric at the start I understand why this season was the lowest rating season of classic dr who so far too I hope you do a KZbin live chat again soon MC it's been ages

[@SamuelBlack84]

I find it interesting that there isn't a single human in this story, but a group of three different alien races. Humans are used a little too much

[@dcsignal5241]

Back in the day, this story was the last to transmit as Logopolis was held back for a year, so I thought this was Tom's last story too.

[@paulkennedy8701]

Marie-Clare asks us not to comment about anything that happens after the episode in the current reaction. However, what you say is not right. There were no gaps in this season. Nothing was held back for a year. (Not on first screening in the UK, anyway.)

[@conscienceaginBlackadder]

Tom stayed too long

[@johnreid5676]

This is. Big of a filler they if you haven’t noticed haven’t had a six parter this year unlike other years so far

[@alexfletcher5192]

You were far from alone in your trepidation. Certain information had emerged to the press over the course of Season 18 (as far back as the broadcast of 'Meglos') that was going to change the face of the show. The series had become a kind of very predictable institution - but who wants to live in an institution?...

[@Joey15811]

This story for me despite some interesting ideas, this story just feels more on the dull side. Probably 3rd or 4th best of season interchangable with Meglos for me