Classic Game Room - UNDER DEFEAT HD DELUXE EDITION review for PS3

[@KeybladeKidZack]

you just made me buy this game my good sir. Ahh, I can always count on you CGR.

[@irefuge]

I never tire of Mark's reviews. Don't stop anytime soon.

[@politic17]

This is all I wanted to hear, thanks for this amazing fulfilling review

[@XXTROB]

Awesome game! A bit of slow down but that has saved me on numerous occasions! Great review again and always mark!

[@1GoodRiddance]

What I love most about Mark and CGR is that although I don't own any current generation consoles not do I really play games anymore (something I am planning to change) I always look forward for his reviews, even if the games reviewed are obscure. Thanks alot CGR for all the hours of entertainment you have given me for free!

[@DexterTheSpoonyOne]

Mark is one of the last reviewers that doesn't suck, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

[@KikenEnryu]

There was DLC for the Japanese release of the UD HD. The grey helicopter (with the V spread shot) is a DLC component for both the PS3 and 360 releases in Japan. The red helicopter (which is a repaint of the large blue enemy helicopters) is an exclusive to the US/EU release.

[@Dukefazon]

I like that the smoke is affected by the explosions even if they are a bit clunky at times. Nice music! I like special editions with an actual artbook that I can hold in my hands.

[@david8FCB]

Mark great review as always

[@Bangcat]

now if I buy the game digitally on PSN will I get some kind of OST digital download like I would likely get if STEAM had the game?

[@GaggleofDoozies]

Expensive game now.

[@AgentGustavo]

Do you need to use both analog sticks during gameplay? I may want to use my arcade stick and it seems that one stick may not be enough to play it.

[@earthboundmisfit79]

A little off topic, but do you like the Insignia brand TV? I've seen them around, but I'm always nervous about brands I'm not too familiar with.

[@Megatog615]

I like how it slows down the game when a big explosion happens like in classic scrolling shooters.

[@sejembalm]

I wish Under Defeat HD Deluxe was ported to the PS Vita. I maintain that side-scrollers can still find a welcome home on handheld consoles. Such look like anachronistic throwbacks on modern consoles and HDTVs, but they look good on the small screen of handhelds. Like how well the Metal Slug arcade games translate well on the PSP even though the screen aspects don't match. Need an Under Defeat for the Vita for defeat on the go!

[@waynerileyart]

I might just get this, retro games interest me more these days.

[@MrBacchus18]

Thanks CGR, I didn't even know about the DLC

[@deadducks7301]

I just got my copy today. This will sit proudly next to my dreamcast copy of the game. Such a great game, I wish more shmups would come out on the ps3.

[@17thSHIT]

That's the joy of CGR!

[@MMasterDE]

This is a rather easy game to get the platinum trophy for though. Not only can you obtain infinite credits and there's checkpoints everywhere, but two player makes it so both must be dead at the same time before actually getting a game over. You can also make it so u got 5 lives per credit, where each time you start out with 2 bombs. It's a rather easy game. Even if you had to do it in 2 credits on hardest difficulty it wouldn't have been hard.

[@Jadty]

Reminds me a little of 1943 on the NES with the battleship bosses. The game does have massive slowdown, though. It's like R-Type Final all over again.

[@cannonballkid]

Got this for the Dreamcast, its awesome

[@CreamOfWeber]

And that's exactly why I suggested that in this instance, you don't know what you're talking about. Yes... they could have gotten rid of the slowdown. However in shmup games keeping the original slowdown IS part of the game. It allows time to maneuver. In fact the outcry from the community in games where the slowdown was altered has been considerable. So keeping the slowdown in the game is a design choice, not lazy programming.

[@svartedauden3566]

id buy this game but at a 40 $ price tag on eBay I'm not so sure when HLTB says the main quest takes 1 and a half hour to complete... I'm pretty sure it's a typo though.

[@santisven]

Looks freaking awesome!!!

[@Zabardo]

I'll chime a bit here, there was no DLC released for the JP edition, those two new helicopters are exclusive to the Rising star port, in fact the "Red overpowered chopter" is aluded to Rising star, the downside of this is that you cannot compete against the japanese insane leaderboards so we are stuck fighting against EU-US versions :/.

[@lastvaquero]

Mark, will you be doing your Annual Top Games Of The Year? He you do, bring back that coked up Chicken *lol* he's awesome!

[@wiredupretro]

You had me at twinsticks!

[@CaptainGinyu]

Tore this up on the Dreamcast, surprised to see it get this kind of treatment today

[@Narniak69]

Future PS3 Holy Grail status confirmed! Just scored my CIB North American copy from a dirty stinking Gamestop a few weeks ago for only $17! ALL HAIL UNDER DEFEAT HD DELUXE EDITION!! ALL HAIL LORD KARNAGE!!

[@maggitPL]

It reminds me of that NES horizontal scroller 1942. Must be that red helicopter that kind of looks like the 1942 plane.

[@aubba]

hey Mark these game was released for the sega dreamcast! in 2007 I belive

[@CreamOfWeber]

You're entitled to your opinion, absolutely. You still have no idea what you are talking about. It's not a lazy port at all. It's a completely upgraded yet still arcade perfect translation. This is one of the most sought after Dreamcast games... and those in the shmup community were glad to get an updated version for a reasonable price.

[@mosesh06]

Can I get a list of similar games for PS3 as well?

[@Rayman18872]

I'm sad you didn't choose the Dreamcast version to review.

[@onceuponatimeonearth]

I had absolutely no idea this game even existed oO

[@TheHijyn]

so, game, that originally was released in 2006 for dead dreamcast gets a hd remake and deluxe edition of that hd remake? I love shmups, but that's just silly...

[@Aezelll]

$2.50 on PSN right now for the summer sale.

[@bombjack1984]

Under Defeat - the 2nd best vertically scrolling import shoot em up with a rotating helicopter on the Dreamcast!

[@ShapeyFiend]

The widescreen mode looks a bit odd and unwieldy but can't go wrong with the original anyway.

[@oscarorozco5585]

I used to play it in my DC with the vga box and, besides the "widescreen" mode, i can't tell any difference, even the game still struggles when there's a lot of explosions, i used to think that DC's power was really challenged when so happened (very often), but i see neither the PS3 could handle the framerate... Ha!

[@adamluck7865]

Naomi can

[@oscarorozco5585]

@@adamluck7865 I'd like to play it, maybe I'll look for an emulator

[@fuckubitchez666]

I hope he does one of those extremely long reviews for Grand Theft Auto V when it comes out, can you guys like this so he'll see?

[@DavidDavisDH]

Yeah I noticed that too, it looks like it does.

[@JamieBainbridge]

How the hell do you get slowdown on a PS3? That has got to be some sloppy coding, or intentional.

[@rockyscarlet]

How long is this game?

[@LoveXKnife]

i agree, i would love to play the new dodonpachi games on my ps3

[@yugobepu]

What , no transforming el camino ?

[@Janman81]

Does it have online co-op?

[@hiawa23]

I can't find the 360 version anywhere.

[@J4TFOI]

One of the few SHMUP I had fun with on DC. However, I suck at these games, so it's difficult to justify more than $5-10 on a game I may not be able to beat. Also, no online co-op? Kind of bummer...

[@sojirokaidoh2]

The shoes are Under Defeat.

[@AlpineQuattro]

How much was it?

[@MrTiagotero]

I wish this game on my PSP!

[@wondiefive]

For PS+ users, it's on sale for 2 bucks until 8/4/15. I just might cop it.

[@stevenc4477]

I know! I am getting it right. Such a steal man.

[@Windsquid54321]

My parrot likes to listen to your voice

[@MegaRayland]

Reminds me of Soviet Strike.

[@COBOL]

Yeah! It's weird see great arcade games like this on phisical media... It's a condivisible statment but, at the same time, it's so sad...

[@aerogun18]

The Dreamcast version doesn't have slowdowns.

[@crazyoldschool6342]

aerogun18 the dreamcasr version is really expensive

[@IAmSakuraba]

You should review d force for snes

[@fkkkkkenig]

Mark reminds me of Coop from Megas XLR.

[@GamerAnalysis]

I know someone who doesn't like cgr. Shall we slay him?

[@Cursed_Mark]

2.69 on PSN RIGHT NOW

[@mawkcc]

2.99 if you don't have ps+

[@falconmanrammer5188]

I actually bought it for this price 5 years ago after watching this review and reading this comment.

[@IanRB26]

Dr. Abby Sinian. Nicee.

[@phatmillips]

Is it just me or does the game appear to have some massive slow-down at times?

[@wildbird5150]

The music is so fucking awesome! The classic soundtrack is better thou.

[@w0mblemania]

I think every episode of CGR is a Deluxe Edition. i.e. comes with extra cheese!

[@Kayscho]

did anyone say, under defeat DELUXE EDITION?

[@1shoryuken]

there's allot of free doujin shmups out their to download. Check out Crimzon Clover, that shit is dope.

[@HaakonAnderson]

If anyone could tell me where to get this game in Colorado I would share some tips I have about making your own cool pants to save money and will give links to help! I can make NES, SNES, Genesis and gameboy pants right now and am always learning/making new pairs! Thanks for the help!!

[@o0Lukk0o]

I need this!

[@trulygg]

I will surely pick up the 360 version! :)

[@jeabl]

i hav it on my dreamcast. I couldnt finish this game :( the last stage music is awesome

[@ArmoredCoreRaven]

This and Zero Gunner 2 are both top-down shmups with helicopters and they're both on Dreamcast, but I prefer Zero Gunner 2.

[@Claziranon]

Mark, review Raystorm! THERES A HD REMAKE :D

[@caleer8567]

The box said 1 player, so no luck there.

[@JohnDoe-e4o]

Wtf. How come I haven't heard of this release for the PS3!

[@deadducks7301]

The Dreamcast version is really hard to get.

[@16BitBrothers]

This game is like Super Thunder Blade fo the Sega Mega Drive (Genesis) but completely different....... :-)

[@OniKnight69]

Mark must have so many bronze trophies from so many games he reviews on the Ps3 ._.

[@ijasop]

review the neo geo x gold

[@Progearspec]

Must buy for any one if you don't own the dreamcast version ~_^

[@Joesfff]

Hell yeah!

[@kagon01]

Finally a retail shmup for the ps3, usually the 360 get those...

[@trivium5]

mark has clones just watch some of his older videos. i know theres at least one video that has triple marks

[@lemangkuk]

Do you still play this game? if you done with it can I have it? haha.

[@fontainelefunk]

Buying this is a vote with your wallet for the future of the genre at large.

[@knight801]

Currently 50% off on PSN for European gamers and 90%!! if you have PS+

[@MaxiM_PL]

No idea. It was plastered all over PSN and Playstation websites ;]

[@likeabarrel]

No, put the money into getting an HDTV...then buy this game. The Samsung UN32EH4003 is great for the money.

[@carlosbrandao1440]

Just Cool REMADE Dreamcast Game!!!

[@mrmimeisfunny]

he just never tasted the ones in salt only the ones in vinegar

[@Hanagigi]

Smoke physics! So deluxe!

[@fiveways]

Tiger Heli 2012.

[@606808909]

Just bought a Xbox 360 and this game which cost me £9 brand new.

[@kaihatter3840]

What additional helicopters there is only 1 fucking chopper also the game is to hard

[@gamecollect101]

Sorry this shit is hot!! Love these arcady shmups but I'm kind of dissapointed with Ps3's selection of these type of games, 360 is where it's at with classic 2D arcade retro re-releases like the Cave shmups & DoDonpachi Deleuxe which are the cream of the crop.

[@awesomebears]

"NO PICKLES"

[@matthewmicelli6674]

Fifty nifty!

[@clockwize]

This game looks like it drops as many frames as the Dreamcast version.

[@ROBSILVERGUN]

clockwize It's worse, actually. Much worse.

[@steveyankowski1815]

$9.99 on PSN store right now.

[@megabot80]

its €40 in Ireland right now!

[@eandjproductions2]

$2 on PSN NOW.

[@megabot80]

eandjproductions2 damn i need to figure out how to get a US account on my ps3!