Classic's 5 MINUTE CARRIERS - Starcraft 2: Serral vs. Classic

[@SC2HL]

For the five minute carriers, see the second game at: 26:20

[@hangover89]

Thanks for the vods, your channel is best for high level sc2 replays!

[@Neon_White]

Pin ur comment foo!

[@FRIESorCHIPS]

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

[@okalsdi]

Please never stop to make those. You are an anchor for our community. Much love and appreciation to you! Keep being awesome you absolute legend.

[@crackincarlful]

why not add that to the title or beginning of the video?

[@empese1127]

I've always found it silly that motherships could be abducted.

[@WhatsY0UTUB3]

yea its stupid

[@brownjonny2230]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHO2nqJqf7xno80 Yeah its ridiculous. Mothership is f&king huge, not even on the same league with a battlecruiser.

[@petertrzos6645]

@@brownjonny2230 ...and if anyone should be abducting units, it's a mothership!

[@arankoka]

always easy to seduce a hard working, under-respected mom

[@nw3052]

Yeah it's nonsense and I don't even play protoss.

[@analnydegustator9522]

Why the biggest protoss unit, flying city mothership can be abducted by some strange looking fly?

[@Flavalicious]

Because this is a zerg world and we just live in it. 😂

[@RaihotDoW2]

So glad to see Classic getting back to form, that was some solid PvZ

[@fuzzwobble]

2:46 Can we take a moment to appreciate the absolutely sick building placement here?

[@greasy_breads]

banelings SERIOUSLY need to show up in resources lost. no reason they shouldn't...

[@TheGreenRoundBirb]

I absolutely agree

[@WhatsY0UTUB3]

13:30 there are banelings in the unit lost tab. or are you saying ones that detonate successfully dont show up

[@greasy_breads]

banelings that detonate successfully dont have their cost shown in resources lost, despite the fact those are resources spent and lost. @@WhatsY0UTUB3

[@neonknight-1522]

@@WhatsY0UTUB3 yeah he probably means the ones detonating on target

[@Neon_White]

Classic looking solid; looking forward to seeing how he does with the new patch, and Protoss in general.

[@uberculex]

Never take a zerg to late game unless you're Maru.

[@webbs120]

Best channel ever

[@FRIESorCHIPS]

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

[@chrispy804]

Really need to do something about the motherships and abducts. Motherships are such a huge target every time that they immediately get nabbed and sniped every time. Might as well not even be a unit in the game cuz theres no point in getting them. Pro-wise at least

[@chloesmith4065]

-400/-400 Well, -300/-300 now

[@Armin.89]

It's kinda dumb how easy zerg is. The fastest, cheapest, most cost efficient, having free vision on almost the entire map, can burrow, no APM required... U could legit build only zerglings and banelings and A move them until you win, if the opponent looks away for 0.0000001 sec and miss to manually split 100 units it's a GG. Btw, which race is the most successful in the tournaments?

[@uero-ro]

The caster ragging on Classic the entire time was kind of disappointing. I agree they should share their opinion on how effective the players are but repeating the same criticism 4, 5, 6 times in a row was really getting annoying. Feel like with such a long game the caster was running out of things to say.

[@arandombard1197]

He was repeating the mistake until he lost, what else can the caster say? Classic just did nothing and waited to lose.

[@joeblow2069]

He did not have Carriers at 5 minutes. He had a Void and an Oracle. At 6 minutes 2 Carriers come out.

[@kathorsees]

Thanks for the great vid, as always! The commentators, on the other hand, are rather subpar tbh. Stuttering, stumbling over each other, long periods of silence due to not having anything to say, poor analysis... Guys like PiG or Winter spot way more details than I do, and these 2 missed a ton of major action that even I noticed (e.g. a nexus getting sniped). Idk, I don't want to hate or be disrespectful, but they could really use some more practice.

[@michael6909]

True, this cast was a shit show. I've seen them cast before and be rather good but this was really just a bad showing and really seemed like they were hating on classic even when the moves he made were actually quite good.

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

While i agree the cast wasn't really up to par, the commentators do not decide what's currently shown on the screen, that's a different role, which is also why they always have to ask to see the battle report instead of pulling it up themselves. Also, go watch reynor vs. cure on winter's channel and see him follow a flock of mutas flying around a main base, essentially doing nothing while a big attack takes out a forward PF of cure; these things also happen to winter and especially bad it's for lowko who misses so much during matches that by now I don't like to watch his casts as much anymore bc i can have to figure out stuff on the minimap quite often which is kinda frustrating if lowko's just counting drones in a mineral line or something like that while that happens.

[@S0N0FJAY]

this is straight up some of the worst casting i've heard, wow lol

[@AK-cr5pe]

the fumbling back and forth with the camera operator at 27:03 was def a bit silly

[@EchoObserver9]

When will they make the mothership unabdutable it is SO dam stupid and goovy looking not to mention bad for gameplay!

[@azurblueknights]

Seeing as its a Heroic unit, I 100% believe it should be unable to be abductable. Zerg already has the strongest lineup of casters in the game, having them unable to abduct the Mothership feels like a small price to pay for having those casters. But then you'd have folks bitching and whining because Mothership has Mass Recall and Time Warp, and apparently these abilities are so strong having the Viper be unable to abduct the thing would break the game.

[@TurnOnTheBackburner]

@@azurblueknights Mass Recall has resulted in very few game-winning engagements, despite being a strong move. Too many of them get yoinked and killed by corruptors before accomplishing anything useful.

[@sc2youtube744]

That was so insane. Classic is was so dope. What a badass

[@jorgegrijalva6281]

viper should not be allowed to carry mothership, its dumb, always has been, in my opinion, thats redicolous, mothership has no sense

[@smn98498h]

bro why does this caster have to argue with EVERYTHING the other guy sais haha. he starts every single time with "well no, but"

[@DarkRedZane]

Damn... What a good match. Thank you SC2HL

[@AndyBorjigin]

Mothership shouldn't be able to get yoinked like that😂. Fungus growth should only affect limited numbers of units or it should lower the damage and slow strength or the duration when it's affecting more enemies above s threshold.

[@IanSmithKSP]

One of these announcers is speculating a lot and talking a bit too much

[@SpiritFryer]

Yea that caster just kept on dominating the cast, continuously talking without leaving room for the other caster, and harshly criticizing things as if they know all aspects of Protoss better than a top player -- also repeatedly micromanaging the observer...

[@TheZerovirus1000]

Definitely

[@errgoseven4680]

the abductors mechanic shld be half as effective on larger unit types, like carriers and BC and not effective at all against the mothership.

[@WarriorsSon]

Serral was in great form fighting all the way which makes this win for Classic a really big deal. Awesome BO3

[@sc2youtube744]

Corruptors are broken af

[@themagickalmagickman]

I feel like I never see protoss win pvz lategame

[@00x0xx]

Against pros, Zerg seem to have a big advantage. I play Protoss diamond league, and at my level its' easy to beat Zerg late game.

[@Omgtired]

you can't win lategame vs zerg as protos as simple as that

[@zacharyknox1730]

The play by play caster is pretty terrible NGL. Talking over his fellow caster. Miss remembering unit names. Feeling the need to fit a word in every lul in airtime. Made this sort of hard to watch.

[@whatevermeh776]

1st game: "That's the worst game I've ever seen!" - Moe Classic runs out of the bar. "Heeyyy, Classic!" - Barney

[@srgfkct3544]

A bit of a weird game to watch - based on the title, seeing that the first game is not “carrier rush”, and seeing the score already 0:1, the 40 minute game is obviously going to end in protoss air army getting nuked :/

[@Raithed]

Yeah I agree. Why not show all three games. When "game 2" finished I thought Serral won since it was two games but it started off it being game 2?

[@tictcha612]

Nice video !

[@Dropbare]

8:55 blasted his own unit

[@waltermatthewberg]

Classic has the most painful blink micro to watch of any protoss

[@kya6816]

Cuz He is one of oldest gamer

[@guitogabriel]

I Never see protoss' late game winning against zerg's lategame, whyyyyyyy??????

[@ihabiano]

Serral is amazing but Zerg are still OP, IMO.

[@Tidom19]

I love Serral but that annoying fan boy of a commentator is annoying AF

[@deseanlothian]

Not gonna lie, after the warp prisms drops ended, there is nothing else to watch in that first game. First time im ever gonna skip ahead in your videos. This is extremely boring and I got tired of hearing casters repeat classic doing nothing.

[@CynthiaRoseK]

classic should have build shield batteries to restore the shields of his fleet.

[@Ha-nw2dl]

There is a saying - "A match where Serral gets beaten is straight-up legendary"

[@josetoro677]

bro , carrier min 3:45 at 4:20 min. in ranked :D

[@NOMVrewq]

who casted these games, voice sound familiar

[@killerxn7758]

That first game soo much copium from the commentator on classic's side.

[@LeOssiTrollterrible]

Wdym

[@FRIESorCHIPS]

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

[@SpiritFryer]

He had to, in order to balance the constant negative criticism from the other caster. Was quite unenjoyable to listen to. Also repeatedly micromanaging the observer... 24:35 "I don't wanna be too critical of Classic" -- after spending the last 20 minutes criticizing almost every move lmao

[@OleksandrKoryttsev]

Good game)

[@drewpaiva93]

classic protoss strategy: just go for carriers xD

[@arjunsingh6264]

Artosis and Tasteless please!

[@louistrinh3608]

20min in to the first game and it's the most boring game I've seen recently. There's almost no gameplay, only caster complaining about Classic. Quality is definitely down on this video.

[@SC2HL]

Will keep your feedback in mind

[@치킨타월]

there is nothing P can do in late game. it is ridiculous imba

[@RevolutionistThinker]

This castor is trying to be a tutor instead of making the game exciting.

[@치킨타월]

obiously imba

[@Laou41]

Why the commentator complaining about cost effectiveness of zealot and high templar run bys when classic is on 10k minerals and gas... TEMPO, TACTICS and STRATEGY matter not just ECONOMY! :/

[@RichardRichardman]

Because classic ended the game at zero minerals and couldn't build interceptors or anything anymore. Classic can multiprong harass all he wants but when his opponent's bank is as big as his there's no reason to crap away money unless he's gonna do something with the momentum

[@norberthiz9318]

you realise that serral was gonna mine out his side of the map anyways, no matter how well classic was gonna harass. Classic was literally throwing away resources that didn't accomplish anything at all. Late game PvZ is all about who runs out of resources first, so unless classic can wipe out serral's army very cost effeciently(which literally nobody can do in the world) he was always gonna lose with throwing away so much resources for a couple of drones which are super cheap. And if you watched the game you would know that classic lost because he ran out of resources while serral was still rich

[@Dantick09]

22 dead warp prisms lol

[@asdasdasdasd7628]

cant believe serral lose this

[@deadlyartistical]

Mc strategy?

[@FRIESorCHIPS]

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

[@GalaxybearBoss]

protoss need a buff, their skytross lose to terren and zerg lol, and their the most advanced race in SC@ lol

[@user-ll3gt8jj3c]

If Classic doesn't beat Serral I'll kill myself Edit: phew, close one

[@analnydegustator9522]

Why is player base so low nowadays? What can be done to make it better and why blizzard doesn't give sht about it?

[@hanyelbadry2609]

الهم صلى اعظم و اكثر و ابها و اعطر و اكمل و انور صلاتك على خير و سيد مخلوقاتك سيدنا محمد وعلى اله واباءه واجداده وسلم تسليما كثيرا عدد خلقك و زنة عرشك ورضاء نفسك ومداد كلماتك وملئ السموات وملئ الارض وملئ ما بينهما وملئ ما شئت من شئ بعد و عدد معلوماتك و مداد كلماتك وكلما ذكرك الذاكرون وغفل عن ذكرك الغافلون و فى كل زمان وفى كل مكان وقبل الزمان وقبل المكان وبعد الزمان وبعد المكان وفى الا زمان و فى الا مكان من بدء البدء الى منتها المنتها بلا ابتداء ولا انتهاء دائمتا ابدا موصوله لا انقطاع فيها امين امين امين يا رب العالمين

[@dmitriyrubtsov9344]

corapttors is imba and NEED NERF!

[@EchoObserver9]

Protoss win in competitive vs serral HWAT the fuck?

[@catbert7]

These cuts make it way too disjointed for me. Feels like watching nonsense.

[@aethertech]

viper is a bullshit unit

[@choiswimmer]

This is some cringe commentary

[@binsly]

the commentator just whining about classic the whole time is soooo annoying

[@gewinnste]

chinned

[@applecakelover419]

ayo first?

[@FRIESorCHIPS]

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

[@fernando91l33t]

Protoss won? what a surprise...

[@hangover89]

spoilers bruh

[@FRIESorCHIPS]

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

[@taylorm8197]

good game, bad cast.

[@catimakittycat3849]

it looked scripted to me.

[@SamLaney]

Truly awful commentary in game 1. Yikes guys.

[@FRIESorCHIPS]

The terrans benefit tremendously in terms of resources. Thanks to MULE, I spend less resources on SCV and only have 1 type of mechanic shield-up, so there is a lot of resource benefit The scanning range is also very wide. Blizzard have to block the Battle Cruiser for 5 seconds from using the Yamato Cannon and Tactical Jump LIBERATOR & Ghost Sniper so OOOOOOPPPPPP. On the other hand, Protoss & Zerg need to invest more in ground and air defense upgrades respectively Even Zerg & Protoss' defense towers cannot recover resources, but Terran has another resource benefit with the bunker recovery function In terms of resources, Protoss & Zerg are at a huge disadvantage overall The zerg is still garbage INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH! Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units No race is more expensive than the Zerg One last thing on my mind. Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack Zerg have no such units Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly nonono, please delete the zerg SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

[@AchrekV3]

Baneling being the most supply efficient unit in game Queen being the ONLY spellcaster costing just minerals Drone - resource you can make as many times as you got larvae Zerg still winning a good chunk of premiere tournaments despite being unplayable (that's what you are trying to say?)

[@goldenarmour7975]

@@AchrekV3This guy is just delusional. Zerg is a perfectly playable race. This game is decently balanced. Most will say Terran is a bit better and Protoss is a bit worse but the guy up there is stuck in his narratives.

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

@@AchrekV3 Lol, baneling is supply efficient but highly resource inefficient. Queen is a spellcaster on paper, but has exactly 1 useful spell and is only really good in defense or in timings. You make as many drones from larvae as you want, but you will not make units with that larvae then. Zerg is getting a ton of nerfs next patch while T is mostly unchanged with a potential buff or nerf on the cyclone - one will see.

[@soligaming5729]

Zerg you can't lose several fight and still win but t and p if they lose a fight, its games.

[@bardfall9555]

Bro this season Zerg have been shitting on Protos and Protos isn't doing well against Terran either Terran vs Zerg Terran need to take initiative or Zerg will eventually win unless Zerg push before late game. Overall is Zerg meta right now From your complain is obvious you aren't a Zerg player You only see Zerg disadvantages never see their advantages The only bad point is that ultras and swamp hosts are barely playable on pro level Mutas need very sepcific situations to shine Hydras seems to have gone extinct.

[@KakarotoFail]

Estupidamente imba el zerg, por eso el juego se muere.

[@shotpulehod]

airtoss is never fun to watch

[@Passonator11]

Let me save you some time. Carries do nothing the whole game while silly zealot spam continues to drain the bank. Then serral attacks and wins.

[@TurnOnTheBackburner]

That first game (2nd game in the series) was really horrifying to watch. Classic and Serral both built up a huge bank and Classic practically pissed it away on small runbys and really didn't accomplish much.

[@BruteFrostLord]

REMOVE PROTOSS AND SC2 WILL BE GOOD AGAIN

[@quentin9571]

not because protoss sometimes (I insist on *sometimes*) wins vs zerg that it is broken dude

[@PrinceOfDarkness-666i]

Yeah, they have only psi-storm to survive in matches, HOW MUCH OVERPOWERED they are!!!1!1!1!11!11111