Classic WoW Advanced Shaman Guide 1 of 2 (Stats, Weapon Buffs, Coefficients, DpME/HpME, Totems)

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Click "Read More" to see Timestamps and Errata. Slides available at: drive.google.com/open?id=1mkM9osebqWXWKdJhr8CkhcWa7tcK0ZMlmNdzr7h9KBA Data spreadsheet available at: drive.google.com/open?id=1pdL6F2iziFyBl_VHRSsiuFvY6T05bMdGRiIXG2ZbqMk Timestamps: 00:04 - Introductions 00:45 - Stat Contributions 02:08 - Example Calculations: Spirit and Armor 03:14 - How to Determine Weapon Upgrades 04:37 - Hit Caps and Shaman Racial Stats 06:36 - Other Things to Consider 07:00 - Introduction to Spell Coefficients 08:54 - Example Spell Coefficient Calculation 10:25 - Shaman are all about Choice! 11:08 - Calculating DpME and HpME 12:41 - Shocks 14:29 - Earth Shock 16:18 - Flame Shock 18:10 - Frost Shock 19:33 - Weapon Buffs 22:00 - Rockbiter Weapon 23:58 - Flametongue Weapon 25:02 - Frostbrand Weapon 26:44 - Windfury Weapon 28:13 - Introduction to ANOVA (Analysis of Variance) 29:48 - ANOVA Example 31:48 - Average Weapon Buff Comparison 33:48 - Weapon Buffs across Weapon Speeds 36:53 - Reviewing Previous Results 38:01 - What Matters when Choosing Weapon Buffs 41:16 - Lightning Spells and Abilities 41:48 - Lightning Spell Talents 42:17 - Lightning Bolt 43:45 - Lightning Bolt Low Rank Coefficients 45:04 - Chain Lightning 46:41 - Lightning Shield 48:33 - Healing Spells and Totems 49:14 - Healing Spell Talents 49:41 - Healing Wave 51:12 - Healing Wave Low Rank Coefficients 51:42 - Lesser Healing Wave 52:12 - Chain Heal 53:53 - Healing Stream Totem 54:54 - Fire Totem Stats 56:04 - Advanced Totem Mechanics 56:26 - Earthbind Kiting 59:10 - Totem Twisting Introduction 01:00:02 - How to Totem Twist 01:01:44 - Totem Twisting Benefits 01:02:21 - Totem Twisting Discussion 01:05:01 - Breaking Even with Mana Spring Totem 01:05:50 - Shaman Tidbits 01:09:32 - Other Shaman Content 01:10:49 - Conclusions and Interesting Links ***** ERRATA: Elemental Fury DOES increase the critical strike damage bonus of Flametongue Weapon and Frostbrand weapon to 100% 19:33

[@DarknessReaver]

Damn, I never knew we had all those anti-rogues measures, and I was positively surprised that the FB Weapon buff finally got the love it deserved! Shamans truly never stop to learn... It will be hard to raise the bar even further than this amazing guide Defcamp & Melderon TV, keep up the great content!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@DarknessReaver Thanks so much! Yup, no one ever talks about FB. I'm going to use it more now!

[@Zutraxi]

Things like spell coificient and stuff of that nature, is it tested on private servers? The wording makes it sound like we are not sure of things exactly, meaning we tested and found some approximate. But classic is so different, I heard some people had forgotten that bosses had different armour values compared to private servers where bosses have a universal value. And I have heard private servers have had to fiddle with a lot of things because they missed the base data, such as coificients and how the spell damage applied to stuff like regrowth with two separate components.

[@terrificlife1576]

51:42 i dont understand... from the graph i ca see the Lesser is MORE EFFICIENT....HPME for rank 1 is 1.66 and for Healing wave is 1.56....

[@stuff4812]

I don't know if you still look at this video but theres a part where you say the ghost wolf can proc your weapon enhancements. this is not true in the live classic version of the game. You may have said this in an updated video but that's a lot of searching lol

[@Hafaechaes]

You're completely smashing the notion of "We know everything there is to know about Classic". To me, this is what a proper guide looks like. It's super nerdy and has a shitton of math to sink your teeth into, it's long and arduous yet very fulfilling to plow through and thus completely representative of the Vanilla spirit. I love it. You can be very proud of yourself!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Wow! Thank you

[@dokstrange6891]

This was known info back in vanilla. In totem section, you show GCD 1.5s, but I'm pretty sure it was reduced to 1.0s (for totems only) by the time 1.12 came.

[@Nerobyrne]

Came for the Shaman guide. Stayed for Statistics 101.

[@PlatinumWoW]

Damn, I just got schooled by the Def and Mel boys... Great in-depth guide guys! If you plan to play a shaman this is a must watch!

[@phatboi716]

My dude, this is so big brain its insane. I was struggling with which class and race combination, and after watching this ive decided on an orc shaman. Good shit my dude.

[@BestWafflesEUW]

Going elemental troll shaman. Want that haste :3. See you in azeroth my dude

[@Rykenwolf]

Additionally for ghost wolf, makes you a beast, meaning you can't be sapped by a rogue (no longer humanoid - great for guarding pvp flags), but can be subject to hunter's Scare Beast fear. Rare but has happened to me!

[@Drooper99]

I assume then you can also be hibernated by a druid? or no?

[@MrHupo]

@@Drooper99 yes you can

[@antoninjanku3358]

Wow, this is so cool! :O

[@Johbe1110]

Additionally you can't be mind controlled by pesky ally priests to jump off the moving boat in ratschet. Always stay safe bois

[@YourIQDoesntMeanShitToMe]

Hell yeah mon i'm the beast

[@winsause555]

order of operations? me not that kind of orc

[@Williaem00]

you peon!

[@Blargshark1231]

Just wait til you get to the rockbiter vs windfury vs flametongue analysis

[@Roachsnoozethinksboutit]

This is my favorite piece of classic WoW content ever created. You should be ready proud of how this turned out.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Wow! Thank you. High praise

[@lenslo223]

As a shaman player for 8 years and who only plays Shaman alone, I had a complete refresh of the class by this video. Thank you!

[@Gajada-_-]

Was very shy to go into classic wanting to play a shaman but after watching this you’ve convinced me that it’s gonna be a fun and versatile class with potential in every aspect of wow, thank you.

[@shtev2218]

Damn, bringing out the STATISTICS! 10/10

[@janekgreen]

I knew those statistics lectures will be useful in life 😁

[@outlandergoods5706]

You guys rock, I absolutely love to see someone dive SO deep into my favorite class across so many videos. I scour the internet for stuff like this about the shaman. Keep it up gentlemen. Nice work.

[@Sleepyjackable]

Pretty dope that you gave a huge shoutout to everyone at the end. Really cool guide, I'll have to watch it a couple times to absorb all this info!

[@trendkillcfh]

Shammies aren't really my deal but great info man, would love to see a full breakdown of some other classes like this

[@vladudrea9747]

Damn, and people say they make advanced guides in 13 minutes.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

I could have shortened if but I felt I'd be doing you all a disservice

[@vladudrea9747]

@@DefcampMelderonTV Don't you dare, it's amazing as it is

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@vladudrea9747 thank you :)

[@illbean1337]

@@DefcampMelderonTV Yea, if anything, it should be longer but spit into multiple videos.

[@cosmiclightning1695]

Little late to the party but just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to make this guide! I planned on rolling shaman as my main in classic and this guide is so very useful and informative.

[@kaspertheut5708]

Really got me hyped on trying to apply for raiding as enhancement shaman dishing out the Totem Twisting like a proper melee support - thanks for this awesome guide!

[@nostepsnek1776]

I was about to mention that windfury synergizes with flurry and if it didn't pull ahead on those tests it must mean it was using flurry but still didn't pull ahead. Then he mentioned it in the video, well done sir. Another note, lightning shield damage causes spell pushback to enemies casting on the shaman. Ghostwolf is susceptible to hunter's scare beast.

[@Misteradams1]

Default --> Baseline is the word you were looking for, I think. Excellent guide. I don't even plan on playing a Shaman and I still watched it. Just fantastic.

[@Vapir87]

Thank you for your service Melderon! Always keeping me hyped for Classic!

[@imreantalfy6817]

Wow. WOW! As a data scientist which just recently got into vanilla, i came here for some answers, and then got an ANOVA model. This is legendary

[@EuanTownsLindroos]

This is the best wow guide I have ever come across. Convinced me to play shaman in classic after lots of indecision. Also made use of the stats papers I did at uni. Thank you so much for all the effort you put into your guides they are so helpful!

[@edwardelric4427]

Finally! I waited so long for such a comprehensive and detailed guide like that. Can't praise you guys enough for all the effort you've obviously put in this! That's just insane and such a generous gesture towards the WoW community. Big thanks from Germany!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Bitte!

[@classict.j.1311]

Melderon, you absolute monster. This video is everything a shaman player needs!

[@JonteTheMoose]

In awe of how much work must've gone into this. Really enjoyed watching!

[@Stratoshev]

I feel so proud that I started doing shaman kiting with earthbind by myself. It was an amazing discovery and could not find guides talking about it :P. That was like 8 months ago. The process was the same... after lvling a Warrior and kiting with Harmstring... I suddenly realized I could do the same with my favourite class.. the shaman

[@Lizard1582]

I was unsure of rolling a shaman, but now i'm sure i'll be making a shaman once classic drops.

[@AD-uw6bd]

This is by far the most thorough Class guide I have ever seen. A+.

[@illbean1337]

Love the video, some small notes however from the information that i've been able to gather myself through reading online and talking to other (assumably) knowledgeable players. 1. Lower SpellCoeff for the LB ranks 1-3 is beacause of the x silence. She can target the searing totem if placed correctly meaning that u save ur team from quite a lot of hassle. 7. Purification (resto talent) only provides it's bonus heal on the base spell and doesn't take healing+ into account, making it less usefull. Jst something to keep in mind. 8. Healing Way (resto talent) can be provided by any shaman in the raid, meaning if only 1 shaman has it, all others gain the benefit (just like Winters Chill). 9. While DPSing as Enhanc in raids, Frost Shock is the shock to use (if u're using any at all) as it stacks with mages Winters Chill 10. Pretty sure u mentioned this in the totem guide, but if i remember correctly it wasn't clear enough. Grounding Totem soaks up targeted spells on u or on nearby partymembers. This includes Poly + Counterspell. However, if the totem doesn't take damage, it will remain up and become active again after a few seconds soaking up ANOTHER spell. (felt this needed to be emphasized) 11. Eye of the Storm procs from getting critted, that means (atleast on LH and Nortdale) that u can force crit by sitting down to proc the effect, remains to be seen on classic as some people have argued that crit procs should only happen while standing up. Last but not least, i've always been a HUGE shaman fan, always will be. I'll be maining shaman in Classic, gonna level either tank or slow 2h with EB kiting til 40 where i'll swap to ele (most likely) and then finally raid as Enhanc shaman using Nightfall (despite people looking down on it and using NF Hunters as a counter argument). Again, thanks hella lot for providing all of this information (despite knowing 95% of it already), it's always super interesting to listen to and follow and praise u for sharing all of this with the less knowledgeable players.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

1.) I've heard that as well, However, there is no penalty for Healing Wave Rank 4 which is learned at level 18. 2.) Good point 3.) Yeah I should have mentioned SS in here somewhere 4.) Yes, horrible wording yet again. I wonder if they will fix the tooltip 5.) I think GW is best to run down targets and players or to just get certain things done, like you've already mentioned 6.) Ah, excellent point! I did not mention that. I'll be sure to do that next shaman guide! 7.) Yeah figured that, good clarification though 8.) Excellent point I did not mention! 9.) WoW! Yes! 10.) Yes. I tried to explain this in the last guide but it may not have come across very well. Thanks 11.) I think we have confirmation that this will not be coming to Classic. But, yup, great point!

[@zachd7695]

If you divide X by y and add in the coefficient of 13 and multiply that by 13 then divide the PEMDAS method of X and Y congrats man you just gained +1 sub

[@typicalzen6149]

GUYS this is Retadinftw! I was listening to Ep 91 and Defcamp mentioned me and my comment/video about leveling in SM for 20 levels! OMG guys that felt amazing hearing my name being shouted out omg thank you!

[@AleehFM94]

This is beyond amazing. I can't wait to try the things I just learned in the game and realize that I just suck!

[@sildinis]

I believe the level required (spell level as opposed to spell rank) is also a component of spell coefficients. This would be why your theory vs tests coefficients vary so much, and seem to vary more the lower the spell rank is. Thanks for the detailed analysis and guides. I find the data on weapon enhancements to be especially interesting. Interesting that in a world of min-maxing we have something that essentially only differs in flavor. Very cool.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Apparently it has something to do with spells that are learned below level 20 having lower coefficients.

[@sildinis]

@@DefcampMelderonTV I'm curious if there is a scaling coefficient difference between rank 4 (the earliest 3sec rank I think) and the highest rank (whichever one drops from AQ). Is this something you happen to have tested?

[@MagGi41]

Wow - tuned in while eating and really had to watch the entire guide. Very informative and very well presented accordingly. Thank you for putting so much effort in this guide.

[@gerardadri9389]

I never expected to see SPSS show up in my hobbys. Great presentation, much appreciated.

[@clydeliverpool5096]

Wow that is alot of info thanks will probably roll a shaman in classic wow haven't played wow in over 7yrs.

[@DESOUL3003]

Problem with kiting 101 is that mob attack range is higher in classic than it was on private servers so you can't really do it effectively. You still get hit almost all the time.

[@MrOrmanley]

Very interesting concerning the weapon buffs. Some open questions for me: 1) What about overkill? While windfury maybe be overall producing similar numbers to the others, it proccing at the later half of the fight is sure to result in a lot of lost damage, creating inefficiency. 2) Windfury produces more hits in total, creating more opportunities for crits => more flurry uptime => more hits in the same time period (similar to how faster attack speed hunter pets are preferable for bm hunters for better frenzy uptime). That said, those extra wf attacks consume flurry charges as well, right? 3) Continuing from 2), do fast weapons have that added benefit of higher flurry uptime if they also consume it faster? Putting all of these together, would there be benefit of choosing a fast 2h with windfury for lots of flurry and less overkill? Would result in more damage taken with EBT kiting tho.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

1.) Excellent point that I really didn't talk about. I'll be sure to bring that up in newer vids. 2.) Windfury additional hits do not consume flurry stacks but they can proc it. 3.) Faster weapons have more chances to proc windfury per unit time but since they have low top ends, it evens out. So yeah, faster weapons have less of a chance to overkill. all great points

[@MrOrmanley]

Thanks. Were your imbue comparisons based on base skill values, or did they include a certain amount of gear/buffs? RB/WF benefit from str/ap and agi/crit of which we see plenty in the form of Strenght of EarthTotem/Grace of Air Totem, gear bonuses, potions and class/world buffs (battleshout/furious howl/true shot/leader of the pack/mark of the wild when leveling with friends or doing dungeons, world buffs like or call of the dragonslayer (assuming you leveling a shaman later on)). FT/FB on the other hand scaling of caster gear, I imagine, see much less damage increase outside of talents, considering the scarcity of spellpower/spellcrit on gear or in class/world buffs. Aside from spellpower being rare, the imbues gain little damage from it too, so I imagine that the better gear you can scrounge together during leveling, the further RB/WF will pull ahead.

[@jarofpickles4057]

47:46 Randomly watching this video years later and this tip totally just blew my mind haha. I'm leveling a shaman currently and really haven't been using lightning shield at all, since it's felt kind of awkward trying to keep it up. I'll definitely be integrating it more from now on.

[@fandabidozi3191]

Well done guys, great video. I wish someone would go into this level of detail for priests.

[@killsticktdn6762]

Some stuff I want to point out/ask your opinion on: - While leveling Flame Shock actually needs 3 ticks to consistently beat Frost and Earth Shock (whichever is the best alternative at that level) in DpME. - Flame Shock is indeed your highest damage shock. However the ticks, which make up the larger part of Flame Shock’s damage, can’t crit. So high crit builds with Elemental Fury might might want to use another shock. - While leveling Lightning Bolt is still your most mana-efficient spell (after ofcourse a Searing Totem with enough ticks) if all spells are untalented. Only Lightning Shield can pass it if you talent Improved Lightning Shield. - About Searing Totem; while the full duration DpME increases each rank, the DpME of each single tick actually drops each rank! Meaning you need to get more hits out of your Searing Totem at higher ranks to pass Lightning Bolt (from 3 hits at rank 1 to 7 hits at higher levels) - Whats your opinion on using R1 Frost Shock to melee kite at higher levels? It has a fixed cost vs the percentage based cost of Earthbind. It also adds flexibility vs having to kite mobs to your totem which does add up if you are killing hundreds of mobs while leveling. - Are you sure Lightning Shield cannot crit? - Are you sure all weapon enchants can proc in Ghost Wolf? I only remember the attack power from Rockbiter effecting me in Ghost Wolf. - Could you check out this post I made about the interaction between Windfury and Flurry (procing and consuming the buff)? www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/a22wf0/windfury_and_flurry/ - While leveling to check if Strentgh of Earth or Grace of Air are worth it to drop you could check how much damage you would do if you had used that amount of mana on Lightning Bolt. - Magma totem has a slightly smaller range than Fire Nova totem. - DpME isn’t everything. You should always take the DPS of your spells into the equation aswell. - If you are going to do another leveling guide I would be more interested to see more emphasis on rotations rather than talent builds. I think you did some weird things with rotations (Chain Lightning on 1 mob without clearcast), gear (Elemental set wasn’t maxed on spelldamage), talents (no Convection in Elemental build) and gameplay (backpeddeling, idling while mob is coming you instead of casting or running to the mob, recasting and long kiting to totems) I think pre 40 you can pretty much just theorycraft it. We don’t have spelldamage items or the DpME of higher level spell and talents so killing mobs with just spells (full Elemental) is just not going to work. So you will still mostly melee. However we still have mana so we should use it. And we can just calculate what our most effective spells are (Searing, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Shield). Pre 30 I would always get points into Elemental first because Enhancement just offers so little damage increase. After lvl 30 respec, get full Flurry and the other juice talents. At level 40 we can go Elemental (buy all the spelldamage gear you can). Lightning Bolt spam +/sit is the fastest but very expensive because you need to drink to keep up the speed. You can also do a heavy frontload build of Elemental where you do a very heavy pull and finish the mob of with melee. For enhancement there is still Rockbiter vs Windfury. With Stormstrike I feel Windfury should pass Rockbiter because you can chose not to cast Stormstrike if your first melee hit on the mob proced Windfury. But still apart from Rockbiter vs Windfury; what spells do we use? Does Stormstrike make Improved Lightning Shield good? Does the use of totems slow us down because we have to kite mobs to them? Do we use Searing Totem at high level if mobs die fast? Looking forward to the revisited leveling guide.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Wow there is a lot here. I'll do my best to address everything. 1.) Good point, 3 ticks is a good clarification instead of all 4 2.) Another excellent point. Frostshock will probably be best in a raid type scenario due to winter's chill 3.) Thanks also an excellent point, however I don't think most enhance shaman will be using LB, so storing damage in LS, in my opinion makes it more mana efficient as you get a few ticks of mana between mobs usually while its up 4.) hmm. interesting didn't realize this 5.) That's a great point! Also, this way you could use SoE totem as well. I'll need to test this out 6.) In all of my testing, I did not see it crit once (maybe it will in Classic) 7.) Yeah I checked them all. (as with the previous statement, maybe someone has it wrong) 8.) As far as I can tell, additional hits from WF do not consume flurry procs (at least on the server I used) - we will have to wait for Classic to see. As far as I can tell, everything MwHighlander stated in that post, I can corroborate. 9.) Yup, that's a good metric 10.) Ah, interesting. What are their respective ranges? 11.) Oh absolutely. I merely calculated them to display the uses for each spell and why they are specific to certain encounters. Also, spell power has huge implications on DpME and HpME which I will be covering soon 12.) all good points that I will take into consideration. And i will do my best to address them all. The whole stormstrike + LS thing I think will not work in Classic. Meaning I think that LS will remove the stacks of SS. Also +sit will not work in Classic so I will not be testing that. Let me know if there is anything else you feel I missed

[@killsticktdn6762]

3) If you are talking enhance I’m taking that as a lvl 40+ build in which case you are right. Pre 40 is always hybrid because you don’t have Stormstrike to use your mana on. In this case Lightning Bolt can/will/should always be used to pull. 10) 10 yards for Nova, 8 yards for Magma 11) Indeed. I always cringe when people state that you can only play Elemental from 40 because of talents. Enhance is the same. The best talents are low in the tree and SS lets you play mure melee. But if you invest in a proper spelldamage set which only becomes available at about lvl 40 which gives you 64 +spelldamage the DpME of your Lightning Bolt suddenly goes up by 20%! That together with the increased DpME from higher level spells and talents makes elemental viable. Another nice thing about Lightning Bolt is that you get new ranks a lot faster than most spells and that the raw mana cost is low compared to shocks. So you can really finetune how many you want to use. 12) I think the whole point is to let Lightning Shield consume your Stormstrike buff (I hope it will consume it and get the benefit and not just delete it). If /sit doesn’t work in Classic I wonder what the fastest way to play Elemental will be. Heavy frontload (always) + Staff RBW and melee kite or + 1H FTW and facetank or kite to cast more Lightning Bolts,…

[@theyos88]

Wow, didn't expect to run into ANOVAs again after Uni!

[@Loon65]

I didn't think we could get even more in depth but you achieved it! Learned a lot from this...I will utilize it in my travels. What you found out about the weapon buffs is interesting and frostbrand did more then I had once though too! Aren't Shamans great?!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Yes! Yes they are

[@Blargshark1231]

Thank you for all the statistical analysis! Very impressive

[@phyrr2]

I remember in Classic when people thought enhancement/agility focused Shamans were pointless. Everyone just assumed you did things a singular way. They had no clue.

[@Pytliczello]

At level 52 you taught me that I can use Grace of Air Totem while leveling so you have my attention master💪

[@ThedangdiggityKeough]

Incredible guide for all of us shamans playing classic. Good work.

[@Hauwnted]

Enhance main here, thanks for the video.

[@VictorAraujo17]

Amazing job, Meld! Probably the best guide for shamans on KZbin. It's a pity that don't work to me because i'm a alliance player hehehe Keep doing that great job, brother.

[@markrainey1042]

Great Guide! Keep up the good work! Would love to see a video with your math breakdown explaining the Earthfury set with an emphasis on the 5/8 and 8/8 set bonuses. I had this set on Lightbringer and found it to be extremely good.

[@gatherer8053]

Haven’t played shaman ever, caught end of BC raiding, and got server first LK 10 on server, never played anything but Hunter & DK and Feral Druid. I was really considering a caster for classic. Glad to know I’ll be a enh shaman smashing faces and totem twisting my way to AQ thanks to this guide!

[@aussierule]

Damn this is really really good information I cant find on any other video. Im trying to level a Shaman seriously as the class really resonates with me. I play a holy priest which is great but man I should have rolled shaman from the start. I didn't think it would feel this good in Classic. Can't wait to start raid healing! Thank you for all your videos. This one and the 4 hour shaman masterclass especially.

[@knightrandal]

This was a great video. Thank you very much. Definetly need more theory crafting on shaman.

[@theshaman4918]

great guide. i main shaman since 04 and this was a great refresher for classic! thanks a lot

[@gfefe74]

Awesome guide, this and the other shaman related ones from you guys. Just for those who don't know yet two months into classic, the earthbind kiting, hamstring kiting etc. doesn't work in classic. Blizz must have felt that it is sort of cheating or at least an exploit so they intentionally stopped it from working. The second time you come back to hit the mob, the slow will just fall off of it.

[@emarskineel]

Wow so much I didn't lmpw about my favorite class, thanks dawg

[@Jive33]

Please make an advanced guide just like this for every class. It’s all I want for Christmas

[@ClaudeLeGOAT]

First time viewer, just wanted to let you know that I greatly appreciate the efforts and the quality in your video. Definitly going to watch more of your content and share it with my WoW related friends. Keep it up, great fucking video!

[@smallpseudonym2844]

Beware using the word "silence" when talking about interrupts. ES is _not_ a silence. I know you're aware of these, but let's talk about why. There are 3 principle differences: 1) Silences affect all possible schools and disallow casting at all. Interrupts only affect one school 2) Interrupts must successfully "interrupt" an active hard-cast to be effective. Silences are effective for the entire duration no matter what the target was doing when you used it. If these were the only two differences, your explanation would be sufficient, since you qualified that it "silenced" only when you successfully interrupted a target and that it affected only one school. But this isn't the only case. 3) An interrupt is a _spell school lockout._ Where does this matter? _Paladins,_ the Shaman's nemesis. If a Paladin gets silenced when their healing is absolutely necessary, they will bubble _through the silence,_ removing it, and continue casting! Bubble has priority because it can be cast through CC's. However, if they get interrupted, they can't! Divine Shield is in the Holy school, and the Holy school has been locked out entirely. For Mages' Counterspell this is an 8 second long spell school lockout. However it's still important to keep in mind for a Shaman shock. I can't remember the full details of Ice block, but this might be relevant there as well, and it becomes more relevant in future expansions as other classes start to gain "works through CC" abilities.

[@impcus2752]

Thanks for this video, I am historically an alliance player but want an interesting Horde alt for classic, and I decided Shaman would be a good challenge. This video has proven extremely useful in helping me figure out how to go about that. All the best

[@sven849]

amazing job man, this is high level information and very clear and concise in its presentation

[@evereststrength]

Wow man - crazy nice guide. I can imagine the time that went into this and gz on an amazing accomplishment and sweet job to everyone assisting you, we can do so much more when we work together, well done melderon

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thank you! And, yes collaboration just makes us all stronger

[@Killzun]

Lots of time and good work invested in this guide. It is truly much appreciated! Thank you.

[@ZblockWoW]

This is amazing. I can’t wait to play Vanilla again 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@mikaelrusin1596]

I appreciate the base stats - I had been looking for these. Was hard to make a cohesive overlay - predicated based off of Race, without a level 60 Snapshot. I have begun works at refining a form of Spreadsheet simulator - albeit, my field is rogue - I still did enjoy Shamans in Vanilla. Thumbs up, man.

[@Tricegames]

Never played shaman in vanilla but you got a sub man this guide was amazing

[@nestamartin210]

Amazing guide. But I never made a horde character ever. ☹ I must stay true to the Alliance. But ya love the depth. 👍

[@MrGoogle87]

I played enhance shaman mostly during vanilla since start, never heard about totem twisting! Great video, really want to see this for warrior aswell a video like this guide.. !

[@sheadon01]

Some people think i'm insane for wanting to be an Enhance Nightfall bot, but I'm prepared and dedicated to the roll, if I add in totem twisting, then no one could refuse me.

[@khairulaimanradzi5430]

Great video! Was wondering, have you ever tested weaving between 1h and 2h based on flurry procs? Eg. Using 1h/shield to fish for crits (with more frequent attacks) and proc flurry and then swapping to 2h WF and swing with the increased attack speed from flurry.

[@saw141]

Absolutely incredible guides. You work so hard, thank you.

[@mojotmn]

This is the best guide I've ever seen. Thanks a lot, mate! 👍 Million likes

[@meatmarathonmuscle]

Loved twisting totems for my melee group in vanilla WoW. I chose shaman because I was just coming off of Everquest and shaman was the closest class I could play to a bard. Twisting on shaman was easy after twisting 3 to 4 songs on a bard.

[@UrStudMuffin1]

Love these kinds of videos! I plan on playing shammy for classic and there is barely any detailed content out there. Keep these comming

[@adventuuresofalifetime]

this video deserve 1 mil. views! all that stats u did..its absolutlely demential. +1 sub.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks bro!

[@Byssbod]

I seem to remember the low ranks of spells with faster than normal cast times, being given extremely low coefficients to prevent them from being ridiculously fast and efficient options for casters. This was intentional.

[@cohans124]

This is the best stats class I have ever taken! :)

[@bud1683]

kudos on the statistical analysis

[@MrNikomadsen]

Best headache I ever aquired!! *applaus*

[@lukewilliams1024]

absolutely smashed this. job well done. thank you for putting in the time and work to put this out. can imagine it was many (hundreds) of hours!

[@argusroth3269]

Man can't wait to play my troll shaman again

[@jelenag6112]

I never knew stoneclaw worked on stealth I’ll have to keep that in mind for pvp leveling

[@dmarsub]

Awesome Guide! I found a slight issue with the DpME Calculation. You are not autohitting while casting. So every shock/totem placed has a higher effective DpME due to being able to autohit in between.

[@vkp11220]

Thank you for this, I learned so much 🤯 Liked and subbed and coming here for my wow classic info from now on!

[@CyborgNinja442]

Just wanted to put it out there that I appreciate the hell out of this video. This is top tier quality classic shaman info, and that's coming from a guy who mained a shaman in a raiding guild back then. Lot of stuff I still didn't know in here! Also, do y'all have plans for guild and community come classic? I'd love to be in your guild, killing allies and leveling.

[@pave3883]

Thanks a lot for the in depth information. Awesome video.

[@genestarwind928]

Chain heal wasn't the most used spell when I played. It was actually rare for fights to allow Chain heal, as most fights had people too spread out for Chain heal to do anything. If it doesn't jump, then it's efficiency is bad.

[@DrTempesta]

This is the best wow video i've ever seen.

[@TheWouch]

This might be the coolest video on the internet. Thanks

[@TheVirvar]

Thanks for making this amazingly in-depth guide. Keep up the good work

[@fatsephy]

FYI, weapon procs do not function while in ghost wolf as your Tidbits would suggest. Rockbiter is the only useful shaman weapon enhancement while fighting in ghost wolf form. Having mained enhancement from Vanilla launch until today in retail, as well as on countless pservers, I can tell you that many private servers unfortunately have this completely wrong.

[@PhoenixBlade973]

Wait, are you serious that nobody ever talked about kiting with earthbind kiting until recently? I've been doing it for almost 15 years now lol

[@BestWafflesEUW]

It never occurred I don't think. But it's so efficient to do. Going to be doing it this time around. I think what we know about classic will be turned on its head. With the internet and twitch about. the game will be totally different.

[@duder6665]

Great guide! Just one note: You say Frost Shock is more mana efficient than Earth Shock, but the DpME sais something else...

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Probably misspoke haha. Long guide

[@phayge7623]

Input from beta, but I'm sure you've tested this already: Only Rockbiter works in Ghost Wolf because of the attack power bonus to your person. The rest look like they're treated as druid forms and don't do anything. Weapon procs, too.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Yup, been working on an update. Gonna take a while though. Still a ton more to be tested

[@kronk7848]

I tend to use frostshock r1 to fish for crits on an elemental devastation build. Winter's chill gets you 10% crit chance on frost spells

[@RichardsPoV]

Great guide, thanks! But what professions are more beneficial for shamans while leveling and end-game?

[@ClassicWinds]

Damn this was good.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks bro. Big fan of your content

[@jeffsmith8066]

Was waiting for this!

[@KyleMiller1919]

At 14 min there’s a small mistake - reverb reduces CD not casting time

[@Nerobyrne]

the biggest problem with gearing is you don't know how often the On Hit effects proc. Some proc only a couple of times a day, whereas some proc several times a fight. Makes it almost impossible to know if they would be good or bad.