Classic WoW Advanced Shaman Guide 2 of 2 (Stats, Weapons Buffs, Spell Coefficients, Totems)

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

I hope you enjoyed Part 2 of the Advanced Shaman Guide. Let me know what you would like me to test next! Link to Slides: docs.google.com/presentation/d/1upQ4_nHQfFQFOjg43kNY_lZ9V2HXchR5Nc3pbwENk2U/edit?usp=sharing Timestamps: 00:10 - Introduction and Special Thanks 01:09 - Building the Story 01:41 - Table of Contents 02:13 - Spell Coefficients 04:21 - Frost Coefficients 05:18 - Fire Coefficients 07:28 - Nature Coefficients 10:16 - Healing Coefficients 11:05 - Internal Spell Scaling 13:16 - Weapon Imbue Testing 20:19 - Totem Mechanics 25:19 - Talent/Spell/Stat Mechanics 29:38 - Talents act Multiplicatively 31:03 - Glancing Penalty 33:40 - Leveling & Dungeon Meta 35:17 - The Do’s and Don’ts of Ghost Wolf Form 36:47 - Known (Persistent) Issues 39:13 - What Still Needs Testing 42:20 - Other Great Shaman Content 43:15 - Farewells & Thanks

[@Jeygii]

does flametongue double interupt spellcasting?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@Jeygii no it does not

[@Jeygii]

@@DefcampMelderonTV /cry

[@Jeygii]

does it get improved from firespell improvements?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@Jeygii yeah I went over the spell coefficient in the video (10%)

[@zubstep]

Never smashed the like button so fast. Shaman community, Melderon & friends, all you guys, it's not the abilities, the talents or the buffs; it's you that make Shamans the best.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thank you so much!

[@ShebbaYoung]

Represent.

[@guywitharock]

Love these "deep-dive" style vids! The level of research and attention to detail is second to none. This is exactly what yields proper theorycrafting dialogues, can't get enough. Would love to see similar analyses for other classes as well. Keep up the good work!

[@fatsephy]

Appreciate the follow up video. Glad you have been able to substantiate many of the irregularities from your previous video. There's a been lot of oddities floating around the community. Regarding the grounding totem... it is dependent upon the incoming spells. If it's an immediate damage spell, it should destroy the totem. If it's NOT an upfront damage spell (sheep, mind control, a curse, a dot etc.) then the totem is not destroyed and can continue to absorb spells. It worked this way in vanilla 100%. It works this way on most private servers also, but a handful of them get this wrong and remove the totem after any spell.

[@MajkaSrajka]

On clearcasting not affecting the natural mp5 - that works for all 0 mana spells. As a priest with cheaper instant casts (disc) with the item from BRD that reduces mana cost of spells by 100, you can have Renew rank 3 (105 mana) -> (~92 mana or sth) -> 0 mana, and be able to do something like (clearcasting-spell from disc talent, Greater Heal maxrank) -> trinket -> spam renews rank 3 for 10s with mp5 for the entire duration. I'd guess same thing applies for any other spellcasting that have decent spells that cost less than 100 mana, ending up with this trinket pulling in quite a bit of mana.

[@CyborgNinja442]

Can't get enough of the shaman info Mel. Classic WoW soon brothers!

[@mattgenaro]

I'm learning so much from this videos to get ready to play my first time classic experience with a shammy. Thank you so much for the amazing job and dedication!

[@connorclouser355]

Yesss! Stoked to watch this when I get home from work.

[@Waersted]

Another shaman video from Melderon!!!!! It's sweet(and very interesting) music to my ears :3

[@gc8274]

Amazing research and work. Top notch - Thank you!

[@Thern0dy]

In vanilla so things might have changed (Did not play beta) > Grounding totem While grounding totem is dropped you gain a buff. While the buff is active spells will be redirected to the totem. The buff is only removed when tot totem dies. So depending on timings it might be possible to ground 2 spells (or more if from multiple sources) If someones casts a spell with cast time and travel time for the projectile and strait after a instant cast no travel time spell both spells would have been grounded by the grouding totem. Since the projectile could not be redirected once it was fired. But the instant cast would destroy the grounding. > Will Arcane Missiles and Grounding Totem Yes. The spell was already "Locked" on your grounding totem. the other 2 (or 3 bolts) will not be redirected to the shaman >For mindflay and Grounding Totem Initial tick went to grounding totem. Then Priest stopped channeling because target was destroyed. Still triggered GCD > Warlocks / imps and Grounding Totem Depends on the timing. If one of the spells finished casting while the other was still en route to the Grounding totem both would have been grounded.

[@MajkaSrajka]

Boxgraphs in wow - you are an absolute legend!

[@mr.mikaeel6264]

That thumbnail of troll shaman is amazing

[@hopeandwhisky1099]

Its Thex isnt it?

[@vanillaface88]

I don’t think you mentioned this when talking about weapon skills, but FYI when you’re leveling up a new weapon skill each windfury proc counts towards your skill. So you can sometimes level up that weapon skill 3 times with a single strike

[@MrJcock12]

Haven’t been this excited for a 45min vid since... well... ever

[@ShopKory316]

I really like the mix of my favorite wow class and my college stats class

[@Sykomyke]

I can 100% confirm the Fire Nova totem aggro issue was back in vanilla. It's one of the few distinct "annoyances" I still remember very clearly. I learned very quickly that you have to have some threat on all mobs nearby in order to not have Fire Nova totem die to a boar hoof.

[@Spiderbro8]

Using both this video and the more comprehensive chart from your last video we can generally conclude that: - Windfury is likely the best imbue for any Enhancement Shaman (IF ≥3.0 speed weapon) - Frostbrand is likely the best imbue for any Elemental Shaman (IF Elemental Fury Talented) - Rockbiter is likely the best imbue for any Restoration Shaman - Flametongue is trash (with the strange exception of a 2.1- 2.3 speed anomaly) - In every other circumstance you should almost always use Rockbiter Weapon. You may consider an alternative imbue when targets gain additional Resistances/Armor but generally this is a good rule of thumb.

[@Cmygo]

This weekend people asked which weapon enchant is better RB or FT and all the shamans in my (temporary) 500 man guild agreed FT is better than RB. I tried to explain that weapon speed plays a significant role and also 'Elemental Fury' and 'Elemental Weapons'. They were so sure that FT is always better than RB and once you get WF that's the best one hands down... I told them there is this guy called Melderon on KZbin and that he is a total nerd that made like a dozen shaman guides and that they should check him out ;)

[@RonMartinJr]

Great testing man. This is what Beta was for!

[@Notsidgaming]

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome stuff. Keep it up brother.

[@mikeb3808]

For leveling; I think flametongue rank 1 is worth grabbing when you still have white gear. At low levels it's a consistent amount of magic damage for dealing with high armor mobs, especially when you're otherwise just auto attacking; waiting for mp5 regen.

[@jetrpg22]

Best theorycrafter for classic 4 sure.

[@beej-tl1zr]

Windfury should scale better with gear unless I got my math wrong. 584 base AP with a 53 dps 3.0 speed weapon Rockbiter = ~142 dps and Windfury = ~145 dps. With a base AP of 1168 and a 87 dps 3.0 speed weapon Rockbiter = ~218 dps and Windfury = ~252 dps. Sorry if this was a double post, first post didn't show up.

[@Argosh]

Makes you appreciate the work those programmers went through to get private servers just right.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

They seriously don't get enough praise

[@cookiecrisp8951]

They didnt get them just right

[@Argosh]

@@cookiecrisp8951 close enough. Just consider the scope...

[@darthrigeous]

Awesome. Loving the work. Will there be any shaman pvp videos in the future, or can you recommend a video that I can check out. Thanks for your time.

[@wakydawg]

For your section on weapon buffs, you noted that you used Flurry. For that to have been possible, you'd have picked up Thundering Strikes for 5% melee crit. Could that be a reason for Rockbiter's clear lead on the other enhancements?

[@markl6567]

Nice vid man. Could you possibly make a vid showing all the best shaman loot available from MC and ONY in phase 1?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

That will be out soon

[@markl6567]

@@DefcampMelderonTV Legend!

[@Greg-bs5jw]

Love the lecture!

[@sildinis]

Finally! Hype.

[@logosao88]

I have a question about the graph that begins @ 16:00 : Does the DPS statistics of the Flametongue Imbue only count the single-contact damage OR does it also include the residual fire damage-over-time? If Frostbrand out DPSes Flametongue when taking the subsequent damage-over-time effect, then it's hard to imagine when Flametongue would be worth using. Maybe against a rogue to keep him from re-stealthing?

[@johnhandcock3242]

nno dot on flametongue

[@logosao88]

@@johnhandcock3242 Ah...ok...I misread the spell effect. Thanks!

[@D3Z3R7]

I'm disappointed by the weapon imbuement data. Would it not make more sense that frostbrand and flametongue would switch places in average DPS, because frost has the slow effect on it as well? Does this mean that flametongue is useless outside of fights with extreme armour and cold resist (questionably relevant since armour seems to be low across the board anyway)? It would be sad if it had no practical application. Your notes on dungeon ease make me a little wary as well. I remember dungeons being one of the least exp/hr efficient ways to level, but I did it anyway because they were fun. I hope they release some kind of statement, if everyone is noticing that they seem to be a breeze. ANYWAY, don't want to be a downer, this video has so much hard work in it and it's so great to see you present it professionally like this. I think you're the world's leading shaman scholar at this point.

[@matthewmiller6667]

I honestly believe the reason we're seeing many people talk about the dungeons being a breeze is largely due to the experience we have in WoW/MMo's in general now. For many players WoW was our first true MMO experience. We would naturally be worst players 15 years ago than we are, overall, today assuming the players has continued to play MMO's over the decades.

[@Murzac]

@@matthewmiller6667 Something that's become extremely clear with Raggy going down within like 5 days of launch is that players are just flat-out crazy amounts better than they were back in the day. Not to mention that now you also have entire guilds composed of people that not only do this shit for a living but also are some of the best players in the world. You had neither of those during vanilla launch. Even the best players of the time were just scattered across random guilds at the time but now you have them all working together in a single guild and as a result some real crazy shit can be pulled off.

[@Skyprey]

You can also use on use effect item in ghost wolf :D

[@The80sWolf_]

I have a hard time deciding on Tauren or Troll. But Tauren gives the shaman a fkn STUN, and that is worth quite alot I must say.

[@jeffsmith8066]

Also a bigger hit box which can be good if you're melee, but if you're a healer / caster it will make it harder to get away from melee players/monsters

[@The80sWolf_]

@@jeffsmith8066 Haha yea, damn this game. To hard to pick...

[@EclipseV2K]

I may have missed it in the video...but I noticed today that in ghost wolf form, i was getting skill ups for weapons. Meaning my 2hd mace was getting skill ups while biting my target...

[@goldenaxebrick6748]

Really love your Shaman videos! Ty vm. This maybe a silly request but would it be possible to do an optimal Ele / Enh spec video for players that want dps close and long range with melee and spells and not worried about putting points in the resto tree. With maxed out gear I would love to weapon swap to smack face but also have CL crits if that’s at all possible. Many thanks again.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Have you seen the ele and enh guides I just put up? Maybe those will be helpful

[@MyTomServo]

It seems like windfury scales better with gear. Rockbiter is a static ap buff right? If windfury does more damage based upon your ap, then it should scale better with your ap than a static buff... which scales not at all with the rest of your ap.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

WF provides a static AP buff to extra attacks, similar to rockbiter.

[@MyTomServo]

So it ignores all gear except for the weapon? Or did I misread that Edit: meant to say all stats except weapon damage.

[@jeffsmith8066]

@@DefcampMelderonTV I feel like he's saying that with more AP from gear, the white hits from windfury will scale better than the static AP from rockbiter. At least that's how I understood him.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@jeffsmith8066 Perhaps, however, I am not getting it since the AP bonus is higher for RB

[@TraxisOnTheLines]

From a pure DPS perspective, Rockbiter is more consistent damage, but if Windfury is letting you maintain flurry more because you're critting more, could that make up the difference in damage? I'm a big rockbiter fan and I see the pvp WF value, but I can see WF taking a lead if the flurry procs make a difference.

[@thevlaka]

What about Shemen????

[@Stompinwind]

Ability scaling came in 112 just so you know it became done once they added like now that you're seeing holy skill has went up in 15 points or Elemental skills have went up in 15 per level now

[@madcat789]

Teach me in da ways of da wise.

[@armagedoc66]

Did they buffed ft? Because its consistancy is way better now. I mean it easily competes with rockbiter. I am around 40. And if my weapon with rb hits between 110-150, ft is hitting like between 90-125 plus 30 each hit, which is like the same and ft is even better on higher armors. Maybe beta was like that? I am switching between them in each rank and recording.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

The issue is crits. If ft crits, only the base damage crits, the magical portion crits are spell based and will crit way less often. You should be stacking agility which makes RB hit much harder. If RB never crits then they are more comparable

[@armagedoc66]

@@DefcampMelderonTV Yep, definitely this. The crics really change the situation. thanks for the info :)

[@Nikyou1]

Next level of totem twisting: shaman twisting

[@curiosityisland4196]

Awesome amount of research. I love it. You didn't mention anything about Ravager proccs storing WF proccs. Any chance you've done some testing of this? I'm referring to Cdew in Cath, pretty much oneshotting everything after Ravager procc.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

No ravager drop for me. I tried :(

[@curiosityisland4196]

@@DefcampMelderonTV Aww, too bad. Do you think it was most likely a bug, or you think it'll stay in the game at launch?

[@Groktos]

Elemental Furor works with Frostbrand and Flametongue you say, so do those enhancements overtake rockbiter when leveling als elemental?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

You need a lot of spell crit to do that

[@Kvothe1994]

So the melee + casting lightning bolt between autoattacks is dead, since it resets the timer , right? same as heals

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Yes

[@nintendonchill]

Stay away from da V O O D O O

[@BoulderBomb]

^ Go check out his music perfect for classic grind

[@TheRedAudio]

@Defcamp & Melderon TV, these guides of yours are such an amazing resource. Thank you! I have been wondering about this hybrid ele/enh spell power/spell crit build utilizing flametongue or frostbrand for damage combined with ele fury... I am curious though, I haven't seen any spell coefficients for Flametongue Totem. Does it have one? Or does the Flametongue totem buff, utilize the target's spell power? Also, does the flametongue totem gain any benefit from Ele fury? The theory crafting behind this build has been focused on how this build effects the Shaman's DPS... what I am curious about is, does this build effect Flametongue totem in a positive way, and if so, is it enough to consider Flametongue totem over Windfury totem? I know this is pretty MEME but, my curiosity is peaking. Thanks again!!!

[@Jhamantheshaman]

I'm pretty sure that Windfury extra attacks can proc on hit effects. Because I was able to get multi-procs of windfury during Ravager procs. This is all from memory though and I might be wrong. Ravager use to be able to proc itself. If i was whirlwinding and windfury proc'd I would have a chance to proc another whirlwind.

[@moonblaze4725]

Jhamantheshaman ithink it was patched out in 1.12

[@Jhamantheshaman]

@@moonblaze4725 I remember doing it on my Shaman while leveling in TBC. Again, maybe my memory is faulty, but I recall it proccing off itself.

[@moonblaze4725]

Jhamantheshaman u might be right about classic but in tbc it was definitely patched out

[@moonblaze4725]

Jhamantheshaman actually it was patched out in 1.4 with addition of internal cd

[@Stratoshev]

Hey, you should not try the ET kiting with Tauren, as tauren has a biger hitbox. That means, bigger "leeway" effect

[@Jormungrandrserpent]

I'd still argue flametongue still has value, In a PvP setting it is consistent damage and bypasses armor. Frostbrand is good for burst of course but prior to having large amount of intellect for crit or spell damage, flametongue is still a good choice for consistent damage when your target has high armor.

[@Warcrafter]

I can confirm that arcane missiles has one charge go to the grounding totem (destroying it) then the other charges hit the origional target

[@Zullv]

Congratulations for the very in-depth guide. Truly great work. A quick question, which I fear I might know the answer to: If you, running Enhancement with the 2hand talent, respec and loose that talent, do you also loose all weapon skills that you got with 2h Axes and Maces? Thank you in advance and keep up the great work!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

No, you keep the skill you accrued. Good question

[@brentsta]

@@DefcampMelderonTV you do? Thank God. I heard you didn't I mean I was kinda looking forward to it but dreading it if that makes sense.

[@Argosh]

You can still kite with leeway. It's just a lot harder. Even more so for shaman since the mob will just leave the range of the totem.

[@aaronmeyers451]

Was your weapon enchantment tests compare them with or without 3/3 elemental weapons?

[@Tylorz1]

Was wondering this as well

[@Burnit78]

So how do you calculate a true healing output please ?

[@jameskearney2845]

Looking for a link to you guy's leveling guide for all classes, horde and alliance. Please add

[@JimmyMon666]

Saved an Orc Shaman name yesterday. Though I may try to convert it to a Troll Shaman in 2 weeks. But honestly I think I prefer Orc.

[@BD-rk6hx]

Do spells that become instant cast with Nature Swiftness gets the spell coeficient of being instant or the game treats it as if it was a 3.5s cast?

[@franzhejhej]

Is there any updated info regarding choice of imbues following the release of classic? Here there still seemed to be some confusion due to it being in beta Furthermore, is there any info on the scaling? As in, does a fully spell damage equipped shaman do more dps (using only white hits and imbue) than a fully ap geared one?

[@MilandorWoW]

When saying that a talent does not affect the coefficient, do you mean that the multiplier only affects the base damage or that it just apply normally to the spell damage ?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

I mean that the talent increases the actual coefficient

[@4gloat]

You are immune to sap/seduce/mc while in ghost wolf, I remember doing this in 2005.

[@xxMurmaiderxx]

Interesting, so using Rockbiter on a 1h as Elemental is straight up better than FB/FT? Even with high crit I can't imagine the Elemental Fury buff is going to even come close to surpassing the numbers you got.

[@theJakal137]

Hi, really appreciate the in depth videos. I was wondering if you have any thoughts or any information on how spell damage affects Frostbrand vs. Rockbiter on fast weapons? (i.e. a resto or ele shaman tryna quest who has alot of spell dmg gear)

[@Jan-vm6mx]

Could you test the scaling of DPS from windfury with better gear? Because you get extra attacks with regular ap plus a bonus instead of just a flat ap bonus from rockbiter or flat extra magic damage from the others

[@Listhebaroness]

Hey guys, I'd like to ask for a test on something. The flametongue totem scales with spell power? If so, does it scale to the SP of the person buffed or to the shaman's SP?

[@nature337]

Could part of the leeway issues of earth bind kiting be caused by the increased model size of Tauren?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Yes although it's also an issue in orc and troll

[@nature337]

@@DefcampMelderonTV Okay, thank you for the great content!

[@henshire]

sry my english, the question is its betther rest /enchancemn or resto / elemental hybrid i have to heal but doing GOOD but its necesary follow farming quest or grinding so u need make dps no ? full Restoration isnt a option i guess im in lvl 56 its so hard to get party like dps i have gear to "Start" healing what do u think bro ?

[@Barlowe]

I'm noticing something odd, all the classic info I've been seeing has been pointing to the 10% frost brand co. With your guide here saying it moves upward to about 11.5% or so with improved weapon imbue talents. But in my play it's looking like it's closer to 40-45% unless I'm doing something wrong. FB rank 4 at lvl 40 for me is base about 95 damage, my strikes are proccing at 112-113 with 41 extra frost spell power. That's just about 18 damage extra, 41*.45 just about equals the aforementioned 18 damage given about half a point variance upward. Am I doing this wrong? Or has it been changed? Edit: Also, this is a kick-ass guide, you guys put a ton of work into these, thanks so much from one little shaman amongst the masses! Edit 2: It could be a product of the extra 15% damage on the improved talent? 15% of 95 added to a 10% of 41 is also about 18 damage :/

[@jamesmcnamara3907]

So I may have missed this, but why does elemental become more dominant leveling at around 40-45? I am 39 enhance rn and am contemplating making the switch. But, why does elemental get so much better around this level? Thanks

[@Jormungrandrserpent]

can't howl in ghost wolf, I'm sad

[@YourIQDoesntMeanShitToMe]

same. so much potential fun is cut out in general...

[@markmcclenaghan]

Am i understanding right the Co-efficent = The actual dps done as opposed to the tooltip after downranking is in effect? I.e 85% of the tooltip dmg is being done on rank 7 lightning bolt and 31% on rank two etc?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

No, spell coefficients are for bonus damage. Tooltip damage doesn't change. It's how much additional damage. Let's say the tooltip says damage is 100. You have 100 spell power. You would think the total damage would be 200. But since the spell has a 3.0 sec cast, the damage total is 185.71

[@tomtefar1988]

I don't understand what you're talking about the grounding totem. In the clip the shaman puts out the totem and it soaks the mages fireball and then dies. Just as intended. What are the "5 spells" you mention?

[@bankia6723]

Wind fury starts competing with rockbiter at slower weapon speeds. Is there any testing with windfury in conjunction with the flurry talent? My thought was if you have flurry then auto use windfury regardless of weapon speed.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

All of these tests were done with Flurry. I mention that at some point. Can't check at the moment

[@bankia6723]

@@DefcampMelderonTV thanks i might of missed it

[@hansmor8]

Another thing to test. Does the totem range increase stack with the tier set bonus that does th same. I think its tier 1

[@carlmcclatchie2122]

Yeah I wondered that too, but I guess we will have to wait a while for that information. I figured i would spec it end game and if I get the set bonus test a totem and see if they stack (or more likely another shaman will do that first). If it does not stack just respec that talent point.

[@JeF_91]

Did you test Earthbind kiting with orc and troll too ? Because Tauren's hitbox is way bigger than other races.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Others did. It's not as bad but still very hard to do

[@tzip2007]

@@DefcampMelderonTV So u don`t recommend tauren as a race?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@tzip2007 tauren are great just will be harder to EB kite. I'm not planning on doing it at all

[@dave9967]

Thanks for the video. If I'm understanding swing timer reset correctly, dropping totems and purge will reset it?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

No, only hard casts, i.e lightning bolt

[@Stompinwind]

Does that mean that Druids can now block and Parry in Bear form....

[@MyTomServo]

Do you know if the crockalisks have fire resist?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

They do not. Also did a similar test on hyenas, FT was poor in that as well

[@Jeygii]

no crit progs from flametongue weapon /cry

[@Jeygii]

all my spell crit, melee crit build concentrated on int as tauren goes down the shitter ..... frostbrand also doesn proc , right ?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

correct, weapon imbues are not considered spells for procs

[@Sailex-]

Quick question: Which professions should I pick on Classic launch as a shaman? I'm planning on Skinning (for money) while leveling but im not sure about the 2. one. At 60 I'll prob change to Mining/Engineering for PVP

[@TheRedAudio]

Many people recommend alchemy for PVE and Engineering for PVP late game. Eng brings many cool things, but all three shaman specs (4 if you count tanking) suffer from mana issues, and alchemy helps with that significantly

[@klyded8523]

Hey Melderon, do you know if earthfury 3P bonus stack with the totemic mastery talent for 40yd range?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

No, beta was only till 40 so we couldn't test it

[@klyded8523]

@@DefcampMelderonTV They stacked on private servers iirc?

[@Egregious_]

The wording of the talent is very troubling. It seems that it may not stack. Will have to be tested in Classic.

[@johnhandcock3242]

it does. tested most of this in vanilla

[@johanlahti84]

How about flurry proccing from windfury? Would that push windfury up to the top?

[@johanlahti84]

Also, Rockbiter has a set amount of dps it can buff you for. Windfury scales with your gear. so there will be a point where WF is the obvious answer.

[@wakydawg]

@@johanlahti84 From my brief looks at BiS gear for the various phases, it looks like WF becomes the only option some time during/after phase 2. Before then, RB will be a viable choice, if not better. Small disclaimer, that's unbuffed. Procs could drastically change things, as you essentially get an extra two hits per five swings. With something like Nightfall, you'd probably want WF just for proc rate.

[@Maglouk]

Flametounge that bad makes me sad, Guess it's only use is to be in dungeon as dps early game so you don't get threat... which is kinda weird

[@Geliott]

Disenchant in ghost wolf? :)

[@doopness785]

what's the difference between "spell coefficient" and +spell power/healing

[@jeffsmith8066]

Spell coefficient is the % of spell power that actually increases the spell's effectiveness.

[@zWaKez]

maybe the mobs you were killing had fire resist built into them and thus flametongue perfomed worse. it would make sense considering you are killing crocodiles that live in the water and have thick scales. i think more tests need to be done.

[@zWaKez]

nevermind i saw your reply to basically the same comment :P

[@zWaKez]

incredibly helpful video, thanks for doing all this research!!

[@BifidokKefir]

I believe you are immune to sap in ghost wolf form like druids in cat / bear forms

[@EB-bl6cc]

correct. you can't sap beasts until wrath or cata or something

[@connorclouser355]

Elemental and enhance PVP guides🤗

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

They are already up. Did them last week

[@starwarsfamilyguy0]

does shadowguard get the same spell power coefficient as lightning shield?

[@jetrpg22]

Per a lot of old sites (but not the lists) it was 26.7% (total of 80%) which is funny because that is what lightning shield ended up being.

[@Obliv210]

Where yall at? Vanilla needs you

[@forust98]

“That’s hot”

[@axelrok4942]

Do you need to reapply the weapon buff for it to scale after a lvling up ?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

I don't know but you have to refresh every 5 mins

[@axelrok4942]

@@DefcampMelderonTV dude I can't lose 5 min each level !!! Thx for the quick reply mate, that makes sense 😎

[@TheHellKiteChaoS]

I can confirm weapons that have a damage proc can proc from windfury attacks. This is a screenshot with the mace from princess in Mara where all 3 attacks proc the weapons "wound". imgur.com/gallery/CtNM1qa

[@johanlahti84]

Totems should NOT remove debuffs instantly. Or am I crazy?

[@johnhandcock3242]

how it worked b4

[@johanlahti84]

Yeah i might be remembring wrong. Been sooo long.

[@JimmyMon666]

I only know Burning Crusade, never played shaman in vanilla. It certainly didn't pulse immediately in BC. No idea about vanilla. But I'm not complaining.

[@LP-gk4ef]

“Do you value having the ability to one hit something?” Hahah yes... I do.

[@g.fonseca6402]

Wait flamethonge weapon is the worst well rip all the lvl i but on it

[@ABC-ns6ce]

Since you fight mostly high armor targets when you level. Frostbrand should be the best overall?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

There's a pretty even mix in armor class. Most mobs are medium armor

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Also beasts are kind of weird, most beasts seem to be paladin level armor even though they don't have Mana

[@rageblade233]

Dono if this is too mana intensive, but theoretically if your farming mobs at full health using windfurry, then once the mob drops below a certain hp% and then using rockbiter be efficient to prevent the potential overkill?

[@jeffsmith8066]

Would stop your Mana Regen so I would think this would be incredibly inefficient

[@LaresGoldFarm]

Make shaman tank great again!!!!!