Classic WoW Shaman MasterClass | Leveling, PvE, PvP, Talents, Gear, Theorycraft, Rotations, & More

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Thanks for watching, everyone! Make sure to check out the links in the description to find my guests and many, many more resources if you are playing a Shaman in Classic WoW. Timestamps: 02:07 - Race Selection for each spec and type of play 15:04 - Leveling 43:01 - General Theorycraft 58:13 - Melee-Specific Theorycraft 1:03:53 - Caster/Healer-Specific Theorycraft 1:17:42 - Consumables & Buffs - Enhancement 1:24:08 - Consumables & Buffs - Elemental 1:29:07 - Consumables & Buffs - Restoration 1:30:55 - World Buffs - Enhancement 1:32:03 - World Buffs - Elemental 1:34:18 - World Buffs - Restoration 1:35:18 - PvE Talents - Enhancement 1:58:02 - PvE Talents - Elemental 2:03:42 - PvE Talents - Restoration 2:11:42 - Pre-Raid BIS - Enhancement 2:27:26 - Pre-Raid BIS - Elemental 2:39:02 - Pre-Raid BIS - Restoration 2:42:47 - Raid BIS - Enhancement 2:57:20 - Raid BIS - Elemental 3:15:04 - Raid BIS - Elemental 3:24:13 - Enchants - Enhancement 3:28:33 - Enchants - Elemental 3:29:55 - Enchants - Restoration 3:30:40 - Rotation - Enhancement 3:36:20 - Rotation - Elemental 3:40:12 - Heal Functions - Restoration 3:47:25 - PvP Gear for Raids? 3:51:12 - General Shaman PvP 3:54:26 - Enhancement PvP 4:07:48 - Elemental/Restoration PvP 4:10:37 - Farming as a Shaman 4:18:26 - Addons & Macros 4:26:25 - Tools & Resources

[@erikstark16]

Defcamp & Melderon TV Under raid BiS you wrote elemental twice. Just a heads up

[@WarsunGames]

An this is where you screwed up. 1:37:10 No one puts points in to that. They need the Dodge ability Anticipation. That was a big mistake. Not only in PvE but PvP. Shaman have NO DEFENSES WTF are you thinking? Ill just run up to the guy an deal lots of damage. NO! You will be beaten into the ground LONG before you deal any damage.

[@jacobchevalier1909]

I need to watch a 4 hour video about shamans it’s very important

[@Holderhek]

Very happy to be a part of this master class. Always do my best to help out fellow Shaman and specifically enhancement Shaman in classic. Thanks again Meld for having me.

[@coreymacnamara4498]

Hello from Destromath. Glad to see you still kicking it.

[@Holderhek]

@@coreymacnamara4498 A lot of us in the guild are from OG destro. Do you play classic?

[@coreymacnamara4498]

Holderhek Yeah, over on Atiesh with the CSM guys. I did see tons of get of fenris in Av

[@itsmennoo]

As a fellow enhancement u are my hero Holderhek! Ur so right u know fuck ppl talking shit about meme specs lol I love enh! Love ur attitude haha

[@Lagencie]

the moment you find this master class 3 years later for HC start and realize the streamer you wanna watch does no WoW content anymore lol ... wanted to go enhancement shami all the way and watch you lol come back!

[@ZachisSublime]

As a new shaman in a classic anniversary realm, this video was incredibly informative and you guys are true experts on all things shaman! Thank you for the great content.

[@manimal9871]

Just started a Shaman recently, and I'm watching this shit once again.... it never gets old this was so well done Melderon bravo!

[@thehalfrican1386]

This was a great shaman podcast. Ive always played shamen but never fully recognized synergies between weaving spell crits into feeding melee crits, appreciate the sit down talk it opened my eyes to some cool ideas

[@illbean1337]

I've listened to the entire thing, and as usual with Melderon content, it has pleased my shaman ears. Really great information, heard most of it before, but the refresher was VERY WELCOMED and needed. Part of both discords (Shaman and Holderhek's) since long before the video, not active any longer though :( Big thanks to all people involved in the making of this video, really great video, love it!

[@herbits]

Long live Parental Guidance! Kind Regards, Magnumopus. Leveling a shaman as an alt right now :)

[@_Nomad]

It's videos and conversations like this that I miss the most I hope Season of Mastery brings it back

[@vXCozmoz]

This must be one of your best videos buddy. I mean sure 4,5h can seem bit much listening to in one go but since you also added timestamps, easier to paus and come back later is so welcomed. Plus the fact that you included ALL aspects of Shamans. PvE and PvP, races and all the other things. Even 1 unique person of each in it. This comes from someone who just play Shaman as alt but this was just amazing Phil and I do thank the other 3, which I am sorry to say, knew little about before this. Can't know every US player/content creator as EU supporter :D

[@cosmonathi2757]

Im Hella late, but thank you so much for posting these guides. They're like the sole reason why I'm a functional shaman in classic, much love❤

[@ricknewton459]

This is something I have been looking for. I played elemental , enhancement and restore shaman in tbc, so this puts in perspective on classic. Although honestly I’m preparing this toon to eventually have a 60 shaman for tbc, But I wanted to learn how to play the specs while I’m here. Thanks!!

[@ombiez7295]

I just went to college. I really like your group mentality. You all have really good points to bring to the table. I'm level 23 now dreading the barrens. I know feel much more confident. Thanks :)

[@CephasCastle]

Chads taking over the world.

[@dannyVulture]

This is like watching high level shamans sitting around a campfire in the Barrens, discussing matters of the elements and spirits until the sun comes up.

[@v23God]

Beautiful analogy

[@TheTechCorner]

The best part is, I started this at 4am. I feel this post on a spiritual level.

[@andreasdoswald]

Oh boy! Thank you very much for this in depth breakdown of shamanism in WoW!!! I almost hit the Crit cap during my last BWL Raid. I forgot to get the R.O.I.D.S. Version of agility which gives us 1,25% Crit. With all world buffs and raidbuffs i had 53,8 Crit with elemental devastation up!

[@DuyuCoyote]

Hey there, old timer here and I

[@JohnnyDarko01]

1:55:00 regarding the topic of speccing ele/enhance I used to have a couple buddies who loved this spec way back in vanilla and they were murderers in pvp. We named it the suicide spec because it was basically nothing resto and heavy ele / enhance hybrid. you could output a ton of damage and really destroy in pvp but you were a glass canon. The combo of big crit spells and potential windfurry hits could delete.

[@tylerm6080]

oh shit you got holderhek! awesome

[@Schepter]

Great video! Covers a lot of elements. My only suggestion is to zoom A LOT more on the build because it’s incredibly difficult to read the build; especially on mobile

[@bebl]

holy shit i love those master class videos, very good work and thank you very much!

[@nigelmckeown]

FYI, when you use nightfin soup you should see two separate mana icons on the display. When you mouse over it, it'll show 8mana/5 on it. Great video.

[@sebastianalevad1413]

I'm getting realy hyped to play a shaman for tbc, looking foorward to tbc guides if it gets announced! Love your content!

[@Olawz]

Perfect video for farming. Thank you, stay safe

[@reeree9819]

I absolutely loved this video. If you guys ever do another MasterClass, or simply want some more input, I would love to have a sit down and talk to you guys. High Warlord Obiwankenobi-Grobbulus Ele/resto Tauren Shaman since classic release.

[@PretentiousLatinName]

Very good guide, thanks guys!

[@gioelecarratelli4593]

Just a pointer for the other shaman newbies such as myself. If you want your fire nova totem to go off, maybe you're tanking a dungeon or aoe farming drop it about a second after you drop stoneclaw, this way the mobs that you don't have actual aggro on (Stuff you haven't hit yet) will take the stoneclaw as secondary target, instead of the fire nova totem!

[@noobiousmaximus]

guys just want to thank you for such an awesome vid i learned so much new shaman here

[@joaopedro-un6tb]

Ever thought on doing this incredibly amazing guides/vids for other games? Btw good job on this one!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

It comes down to time really but yeah we've thought about it

[@midv4lley]

This was amazing. thanks everyone

[@terrificlife1576]

orc for pve and pvp ! you can use shoes!!!

[@Ghost-fe1vp]

Watching this while I level my orc. I just got ganked by 2 rogues. If I was tauren I may have survived. Rip.

[@joshuaroe1402]

@@Ghost-fe1vp No, no you wouldn't have.

[@markthesharkus]

Coming from a raiding Elemental Shaman main spec, I have a few thoughts as far as gearing goes: in ZG there’s actually couple big pick ups as far as elemental shaman gear goes. Bloodcloth Gloves (cloth, 19spell dmg, 1% hit), Betrayers Boots (cloth, 30 Spell dmg) and Cloak of Consumption (23 Spell dmg, 1% hit) and if you haven’t acquired Talisman of Eph Power then the ZHC from Hakkar is huge. Truth be told, Natural Alignment Crystal might be the 3rd best Spell damage trinket behind TOEP & ZHC. Come AQ40, tho, Goodmood mentions that Deep Earth is better than Stormcaller because 40>28, which is true, but he neglects that the 3/5 tier bonus has a 20% chance to proc a bonus +50 damage to lightning spells for 8 seconds, so ideally you’re going to want to acquire the shoulders, legs & boots to make optimal use out of the set. I’m probably going to grab the chest as well since the leggings of elemental fury in Naxxramas are so amazing, but ideally you want to keep Mish’undare on as long as possible being that the 2% crit on it is just too good to part with. Gauntlets of Kalimdor are going to be my PVP/Open world gloves, but Dark Storm Gloves are going to be the PvE gloves goal from off C’thun (37 spell dmg, 1%hit). On top of the Belt of Stalk that gives 41 spell dmg & 1%crit will blow Mana Igniting Cord our when it becomes available. Just some extra Elemental insight. -Kinjospyke, Fairbanks

[@johanlahti84]

Made one shaman lvl 60. Now i kinda wanna level another...

[@louisuphill8936]

"there are those Enhancement muscles!" made me lol

[@MellonVegan]

Funnily enough, our guilds closet enhancer is a bodybuilder and I (ele alt) am a strongman. The only other lifters in our group are warriors. Funny how that works.

[@sarico7827]

I am a big fan of ghost wolf 1 sec cast for the fastest movement for a long time and has saved me.

[@АндрейИрхин-м6р]

Great work! Thanks

[@williamlampke8083]

Thanks Melderon, Very Cool!

[@leogodavidson10]

Thank you so much guys, this is amazing.

[@JoeRandom007]

Loved the video! Would have nice to have a little bit of time for tanking talk with caperfin though

[@robmaihes985]

1 note on leveling stats. Dont sleep on Agi/Spirit gear as enh

[@mattek190]

I got a question !^^ is there a real noticeable difference between 2.6 cast time and 2.5 ? And reducing mana cost of healing spells by 3% and 5%? I mean I do see there is a 2% diff. but how does it feel like in bwl rushing or semi afk farming ?

[@RedfinPike]

Bought to roll a tank Shaman in SoD

[@PeteFoxx]

Late bloomer here, lvl44 Enh Shaman, still rockin'da Ravager, (with success) so not really feeling a swap to Elemental... When does it become a matter of not "wanting-to"... But "needing-to" swap to Ele, viability-wise??? Cheers & Thxxx for the guides peepsels! .

[@MellonVegan]

1:26:30 I'm certain you see both icons. One with a timer, one without.

[@nightsage217]

I lvl up as elemental. Ppl find it machoistic, but it is probably my only time I can love to play elemental. Just front load everything, and play like a hamstring warrior with earthbind totem. As a lvling dungeon healer, spirit stat helps alot when i lvling.

[@MellonVegan]

1:32:50 That's also incorrect. Earthshock deals more flat damage and you also profit from the plus nature damage shoulders.

[@BD-rk6hx]

Hey guys, great vid. Thanks for the content. Question for ya. Does Spell hit effect fire nova and magma totems?

[@Grim-Wolf]

I have a question for theroycrafting.... Shaman tanking BiS main hand? Flurry axe with rockbiter? thoughts?

[@hkronin883]

What would be the best all around race? Not sure if I would be ele/enhance/resto? Troll?

[@JohnnyDarko01]

Hit was mentioned here.. dont forget about primalist leggings if you want hit also. BWL drop 2% crit 1 hit, but no spell dmg... mail legs.

[@Blickter]

The equivalencies I've seen suggest that 1% crit is ~= to 7-10 SP, depending on world buffs and itemization. Hit is ~= to 10-13 SP. That puts those legs at 24 SP low end, 33 SP high end. T2 legs and Flarecore are both well far ahead.

[@noneofyourbusiness7609]

I am a simple man, I see D&M video, I like! Thanks for this, Shaman is a great class for sure! I'm Druid at heart (Horde ofc) but if Classic has taught me one thing, it's that each class is awesome in it's own way. In TBC when I started, I was a one-class guy, but in Classic I'm a philandering altoholic :P BTW... Would you guys consider putting your VODs in a playlist?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Hey! Are you talking about streams? Because If so there should be a hardcore playlist on the description

[@noneofyourbusiness7609]

@@DefcampMelderonTV I was, thanks for pointing it out! I tend to listen to long streams with commentary at work on some occasions (almost as if they were podcasts, weird I know), and I can't go on Twitch or Discord there, nor can I log on to my personal email :) Thank you and take care of yourselves!

[@kalandonor]

Great video guys! I'm angry everytime I hear "level a mage" for gold farm. You can do pretty decent gold as a shaman by picking up mining and herbalism. You can farm open world with those two professions and get decent gold (waterwalk mining+fishing in azshara also a viable option.) You can do solo jumpruns as a shaman. Even with resto you can do it in 20 minutes with good gear. It's much much faster if you are specced to elemental. You can solo gizlock and princess with herb and mining in maraudon too (not the best gold I know, but it's pretty stable). Thank you for your great content guys! I enjoyed this one a lot!

[@halseypayne4249]

damnit Melderon now I gotta level a shaman :P I think I'm gonna go Troll because I plan on just healing dungeons and maybe raids... but really it's just a side project to do in my off time when I need a break from ranking on my hunter

[@lgngrbr588]

What a great discussion and resource this is. I can't count how many times I've come back to this guide for info. I did have a question on the spirit stat and can't seem to find an answer anywhere. I was looking through my old Brady Games official WoW guide, and it claims that spirit also increases the chance of our weapon imbue procs. Is anyone able to corroborate that info?

[@SomewhereInSerbia]

01:57:44 BIG BRAIN enh hybrid that is mana intensive and picks 5/5 shield spec over 5% mana, I know its shit tier talent, but if you're gonna be struggling with mana, might as well get anything to boost it, shield spec which is a defensive talent is a dud.

[@rojofish504]

Fresh classic coming? Shaman 4 hour tutorial? I’m in

[@TheBruuz]

I see plenty of guides showing "twisting" gear options, which are mainly int/mp5 items. Are these ever an option for enh? Am I just better off grinding 150g for a 2000 mana flask every week?

[@manimal9871]

TheBruuz it depends if you want to do low dps personally then you can use the guide advice, if not then you will have time spend the gold and time to min max like Holder recommends.

[@royalfoussa]

the wf proc have 3sec CD ? and how many following proc can we do ?

[@Belemrys]

Where are the warcraft logs for these beasts?! :)

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

good point

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

they are there now

[@Half_Finis]

trinkets classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c6qJmgTD9Qv7jFtB#fight=last&type=summary&source=2

[@M5_Zybka]

Can someone help me out with 1 question.Dont know what the best faction for shaman class- Allience or horde in TBC patch, Ellem or restro spec I mean

[@iempthegod7302]

Do you lose much when you decide to not take tidal mastery?

[@rezidues771]

HYPE!!

[@Brother_JL]

Fucking Holderhek the chad is heeeeereeee

[@joacimjunhov4976]

Im trying to find the part where they talk about WF totem rank 1 and the benefits for warriors beeing the extra rage they generate, over the AP for the hit with WF rank3.. Anyone can help me out with a timestamp ?

[@amonuravnitel789]

Great Video! Ty! But can you write some timings in discription or here please

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

They are in a pinned comment

[@shongueesha7875]

Amazing video, thanks!!

[@judokick9264]

Can someone tell me the Weak aura he uses to allow him to see when to stormstrike and the internal cooldown is off would be amazing

[@joshmfsanchez]

I'm goin shaman mane on hc classic - i wonder if these guys would switch up their ranking for enhancement shammy on hc .. because i think tauren blows troll / orc away in this game mode

[@melorate]

Ghost wolf is good for WSG flag runs also you're immune to sap and some rogue abilities which work on humanoids only and pretty much that's it.

[@PippTheKid]

in pvp enh sham tauren with earthshaker probably my favorite shit

[@manimal9871]

PippTheKid that does sound fun 😂

[@kostastromvoukis5164]

what does egrerious mean DMF int buff doesnt scale? it doesnt stack with AI and ROIDS?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

its base intellect only

[@kostastromvoukis5164]

@@DefcampMelderonTV got it so its like 10 flat int which is preety much not worth the buff slot, thnx a lot!

[@fairy2000]

i just said to myself, "i'll watch this later", im 45 mins in.

[@Antmf712]

Is it better for 1H and shield or two hander for leveling on a pvp server from 1 on. I like going ele till 30 then switch to enh playing like enhance the whole way through till 40.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

2h is fastest by the time you are 30. I have an advanced leveling guide that goes through the number e

[@Antmf712]

Defcamp & Melderon TV ok great thank you

[@LeefTV1]

now that its possible to more or less twink ur shaman by buying stuff from AH while leveling an alt Shaman. Wouldnt it be better to buy a fast 1h weapon with proc chance, that for example has a chance to cast shadow bolt on hit along with a shield? maybe not faster kill speed than ele but u can keep going forever without downtime

[@nazarlutsyshyn9718]

Why shield talent when u go with 2h weapon?

[@bstoker9468]

Sick.

[@sasha_yudin504]

This was utterly helpful for me! I have a question regarding enchants for Enhance PvP: Holderhek mentions that haste (attack speed) is useless for PvP and I want more elaboration on why. There are Helm/Leg Libram 1% attack speed enchants in addition to 1% attack speed enchant on gloves. Does strength enchants really outweigh more white damage from faster attack speed or? And attack speed can help give more proc chance for wind fury since it’s faster hits, no?

[@hunterthedon19]

Who’s here for the fresh servers in 2024? Lol 😂

[@SkarrGaming]

Would you say the leveling guide here still stands for TBC?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

No, I am going to make a new one soon

[@SkarrGaming]

@@DefcampMelderonTV cool.

[@SpaceAznZen]

Just wanted to say, I whole-heartily disagree with the gear choices that Goodmood recommended for both MC and BWL. ToEP is clearly better than 23 passive SP and Natural Alignment Crystal is trash for PvE - it increases spell mana cost by 20% and everyone knows that a PvE elemental shaman's #1 problem is mana...

[@Blickter]

NAC is relevant on a handful of bosses - namely, Vael, always, and any single target boss if your guild is killing it quickly (~45s-60s). Anything that extends beyond that, TOEP is clearly better. With TOEP you need to factor in fight length. You get 9 casts of 175 increased damage = 1575. If you're using the DM trinket instead (23 damage), you'd need 68 casts to equal things out. That's ~140s of casting LB (you're downranking at this point). This is pretty easily relevant for a lot of guild's kill times, as it's about 2 mins 20s. There's additional implications if you're using cooldowns in conjunction with TOEP for short term DPS, as there is for NAC. So, fight under 1 minute? NAC + TOEP. Fight between 1 min and 2.5 mins? TOEP and Briarwood. Fight over 2.5 mins? Briarwood and DM trink. Obviously always use Tear if you've sucked some dick and gotten your dickbeaters on one.

[@Swimming_cooking]

As a side note... The Alignment Crystal is so good for healing on Vael. Half the fight you have 20% increased healing.

[@jonashansen2512]

[@sarico7827]

It is my brithright for sulfurous, but if you make me use nightfall in raid that's fine I guess.

[@exx3125]

hey good vids like you'll videos

[@keelinadin]

holy crap, 4.5 hours long! ANY and ALL questions gotta be answered here shaman wise...lol.

[@MellonVegan]

Speaking for elemental in PVE, if you try really hard you will top dps in average guilds and can be equivalent to the average mage in good guilds (maybe not the best in the world but the best on many servers). ZG (for me) is the worst raid, so far bc of the constant pulls and mana. BWL is better with a good grp bc mana stops being an issue. MC is a bit worse for me. Funnily enough, I excel at killing trash. Maybe bc by drink-walking I can just blast all the time, i.e. weave in chain lightning and earth shock. Basically, the difference between you and mages, currently, is probably as much as a flask. Maybe less. So it's definitely there but on a, let's say, 600 dps tank and spank, getting those 10% extra via the flask won't make or break your performance. Instead of bringing the 11th mage, you can have slightly less damage and more totems for your melees. If there is no compulsory use of flasks, a try hard ele may even be the best caster for a somewhat good group.

[@SpecialDetermence]

No time stamps?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

They are right in a pinned comment. Been there since upload

[@SpecialDetermence]

Defcamp & Melderon TV oh saw em now sorry

[@gringgles2633]

imp ghost wolf is more a pvp thing for bgs. and can be usefull in combat to get into a hunter's dead zone.

[@Half_Finis]

eg's mic is so loud tho :(

[@prismriot4910]

any chance holderhek would have time to help me learn enhance? :) i could pay if needed

[@jarlfisk]

Do druid next plz most meme class out of them All but one of the best if played by skilled players

[@WoWUndad]

spent all my loot points on 8pc t1 thinking it was dank(guild de'ed a bunch of salamander pants, wild growth, and t2 shaman gear). turns out i just spam max rank chain heal and snipe with lesser healing wave anyway. feelsbadman

[@mattek190]

Awww how many MAX (3rd) rank chainheals u cast before u r out of mana ? Seems like healing power in t1 won't let let u * spam * ?..

[@stynard]

Great video. Melee is french, it is pronounced māˈlā. google, define: melee, they have a sound byte.

[@ethanbremner3356]

For some reason it really annoyed me when they couldn’t remember that the nef head reward offhand is an upgrade over spirit of aquamentus

[@draccuzhc7113]

I am ready sad, that this is not on spotify, because the screen on youtube is always on. If i could watch it on spotify my screen could get off so I can listen it while my phone is in my pocket.

[@litsick2533]

Pro tip. Crit>Hit if you crit you cant miss

[@gamergod9182]

"You will not be under the tanks!" Me. *laughs in fury/prot*

[@user-xl1sd4br7v]

18:34

[@Blickter]

2 Math Problems: 1) Each point of weapon skill provides .1% dodge reduction. So an orc with an axe has a 6% chance to be dodged by a level 63 mob. (5% base dodge, .5% dodge per monster level above 60, -.5% dodge for weapon skill). 2) Yellow attacks can be dodged, so yellow crit cap is 94% + 4.8% from suppression. Still not attainable, but important to mention that yellows CAN be dodged even at hit cap.

[@MacDaniboi]

Dodge is not a factor.

[@SD78]

Convection is completely worthless in Elemental PVP. Warding gives 10% frost/fire/nature DR (which is huge against mages) and Call of Flame gives 10% damage to Nova grenades. NS is MUCH, MUCH more versatile than Mastery. Ele shammies will typically have 25% crit with lightning anyway.

[@carodar34]

so funny that Holderhek dont care about other debuffs with using SS and mentioned the only debuff who a shaman profit the second most of it winterchill 10% critchance with frostspells

[@Kobukseon]

You need to add some bookmarks to this video.

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

they are in a pinned comment