Classical Composer Reacts to Carolina IV (Angra) | The Daily Doug (Episode 218)

[@Alejandro-ie8ol]

All my love to my Brazilian friends and the holy memory of Andre Matos! from a Chilean guy living in Scotland!

[@alegiddings]

Weeena hermano, saludos desde osorno

[@ergoliat1163]

Wena ceteme!

[@lespuder]

Saludos a toos los qlaos allá

[@apksolar]

🤘🇨🇱

[@dionisia3749]

🤘🏽 🇧🇷

[@DavidGuardo]

Angra is unbelievable. To me, as Spanish, I appreciate the ability to incluide Brazilians and local tempos into this power metal. They are genius.

[@jaquelinerocha2586]

Although with several formations over 30 years of history, Angra has always had excellent musicians and exuberant vocalists. Upon reading your praise for this band that I love so much, I am happy to share the same opinion. They are wonderful!👏❣️✨

[@Gabriel-jd1cb]

Doug, this augmented fourth and subtonic thing that you noticed is a current harmonic situation in brazilian northeastern music. If you want to hear more of it, I would recommend the song Agalopado by Alceu Valença, and the father of this genre, Luiz Gonzaga with the song Baião. Btw great video!!

[@alamobr]

Also the prog death metal band named Cangaço!!!

[@victorp.2041]

Don’t forget to mention Gangrena Gasosa

[@IsaacCorreia1]

Hermeto Pascoal is very interesting too.

[@christianlopes1980]

So brasileiro, top demais

[@taketheleft5738]

@@IsaacCorreia1 This is a MONSTER!

[@christianoyarceaviles8296]

Doug's fixation with double kick drums on metal music steals his capacity of enjoing music. For us, metal heads, we can get the full musical picture not loosing any sounds of the spectrum.

[@TheMurderArt]

Totally agree...

[@CarlosRojas-oy7pm]

That's accurate!

[@nandocattan]

Yes...he repeat the same critics in every video. Double-kick drums is the basis of power metal, he has simply to accept that.

[@marcustorreao]

I understand you but I agree with Doug in this case. The song has a great melody, outstanding progression and details that are supressed by the double kick drums. I would like to listen to a version without them.

[@pedrofaleirozoega773]

Right on point! He paused on the best part lol

[@machadoalfaiate]

Carolina 4 era o nome do ônibus que levou os integrantes do angra para o sítio onde gravaram o álbum Holy land!

[@itsalolmor]

Na verdade que levou eles pra Serra da Cantareira, eu acho, pra tirar a foto do álbum

[@rafaelveloso2233]

Era pra um ensaio fotográfico

[@mau9175]

Levou eles pra uma serra, haha era pra um ensaio fotográfico, aí deu um chuvão, eles encalharam e deu ruim kkkk

[@adrianosiqueira4561]

A história que conheço é que era o nome de uma embarcação (imaginária) que afundou antes de chegar ao Brasil junto com toda esquadra de Cabral

[@julianoschaw]

No vídeo ele comenta a letra e confirma que estão falando sobre um barco.

[@TheEmperius]

The double-kick drums are almost mandatory for them cause its a signature of power metal genre.

[@UnpleasantDog]

In my opinion, there is no song that better represents the mix of heavy metal with typically Brazilian sounds, born from the great mix of people and cultures that make up the Brazilian folks. This album is amazing and this is without doubt the most interesting song. Thanks for this reaction, Doug! RIP Andre Matos.

[@silviocinti]

I love the 3 firsts Angra´s albums with all my heart! They are unbelievable!

[@Bivare]

Thanks for reacting to this Doug! Even if you dislike the double kick drum we, people who grew up listening to Angra, appreciate you reacting to their music. If you want to avoid the typical power metal double kick drums you might want to go for one of their balads. Make Believe, from this same album, is a great one from the Andre Mattos Era. If you wanna check out some of their newer stuff I reccomend The Shadow Hunter from the album Temple of Shadows (with Edu Falaschi on vocals). On the same alley you may also like Fairy Tale by Shaman (Andre Mattos' band after he left Angra). Would love to see one of those on the channel.

[@marcosjbs4391]

Great recommendations!

[@Helberth13]

The Shadow Hunter is awesome.

[@allanmarquezini777]

Late redemption too.

[@TheCyberMantis]

I always recommend "Shadow Hunter" to new Angra listeners.

[@BetoCraftMC]

Totally agree with u

[@MrGarccia]

If you pay attetion to the "movements" inside the song, they all match with the trip of the Discovery, starts with the antecipation of the journey, the thoughs for whats to come, than the part where the drum rushes, It's the trip Itself, turbulence, big waves, storms, and than, they arrive, some calmness, it's the initial instrumental part, than If you pay atention to what he sings back before the solos he says "nothing left much from the boat..." It's they facing That's no turning back, and they have to start a New begining on this strange land, and That's why the return to the initial theme.

[@jaquelinerocha2586]

Excellent comment

[@diotenchi]

Also, it's nice to point out that throughout Andre's career he's made other songs relating to the theme, having songs named both "Discovery" (with Virgo) and "Endeavour" (with his solo band) - both being names of different space shuttles.

[@fredericoaugustodecamargo9612]

I will never listen to this song the same way again after this comment, awesome!

[@fredericoaugustodecamargo9612]

Listen to "Vera Cruz", by Edu Falaschi (former Angra's vocals) - another incredible sauce of brazilian northern music...

[@MrGarccia]

@@fredericoaugustodecamargo9612 o already heared It, it's sounds amazing, but it's too similar to temple of shadow for my taste

[@adrianciel2154]

This album is MASTERPIECE... RIP Andre Matos

[@rafaelzitonon]

There is an interesting story behind the name of this song. Its name was once "River to the Sky". So the band decided to go up a mountain pick in Brasil (Pico da Neblina) to take a promo photo having the clouds as "river". So, when they got to the place, there were no jeeps available for the purpose, they had the insane idea of going uphill on their microbus, although being warned about the unviable situation of the road on that day. They got to a point near the pick that the mud was so deep their microbus got stuck and they had to hold besides the possibility of it rolling over them. They could've died, as Rafael Bittencourt stated when he told this story. And guess what was the name of the microbus....Carolina IV. I would say the "seven men on board" were the 5 members, the manager, the makeup artist, besides the driver...there might have been a photographer, but it was not mentioned. And the, "one man less onboard" might have been the one who decided not to join them in the end. So, Rafael thought "imagine the story of a ship which went on a trip to explore the new land and never returned". He also mentioned that in the lyrics "We have with us a special guest, And for him, we made a toast", the meaning was: there was a makeup stylish with them, so they decided to make a toast for him, maybe because the plan went as bad as them being covered in mud coming back from the trip. Here's the link to the storytelling: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGGtan6HbNJ5f5Y

[@saandroosgobi9402]

The speedy part of the song follows the "moviment" of the ship at full speed in the open sea. The song is perfect the way it is, remember, it´s a Heavy Metal band, at the end of the day the fans want to hear heavy guitars, pounding drums and bass.

[@molledar]

I find the double bass drums with the “laid back” verse fascinating, and instead of clashing or getting in the way it helps to establish a counterpoint which makes the song that much more unique and interesting. I’ll admit it probably took me a few listens to the song to “get” that.

[@hereinsertname]

Listen to “The Shadow Hunter” from The Temple of Shadows album. It’s their best song imo.

[@vitoravila9908]

I'm sure Doug will love it

[@JubaDeMetalAlumínio]

Oh, what a great discussion you got there.

[@blacksky379]

Regardless if it is the best song or not, it is indeed more like Doug's type of metal music.

[@joaovictorjansen6928]

Temple of Shadows in general is a masterpiece

[@lucasguimaraes4595]

yes, please

[@ederepic]

Eterno André Matos e sua genialidade musical

[@papnpdprpep]

7:19 I love the contrast with the melody when the drums are rushing

[@WilmersondaSilva]

But the drums are not rushing I think. It's just a double time groove

[@lobiankk77]

This is what makes power metal so beautiful and uplifting.

[@violetcarlson]

Been 22 years since my first experience listening Angra. They got my heart ever since.

[@papnpdprpep]

I think you would enjoy Never Understand. There's not so much kick drums and the main riff is based in a Brazilian folk song called Asa Branca (White Wing). Other very interesting song that is also based in this genre of Brazilian folk music (baião) is Hunters and Pray.

[@alpardal]

Would love to hear his thoughts on Never Understand as well 👍

[@LeonardoVaz76]

^^^ this Doug!

[@lenafelipe]

This one Doug!

[@favelike]

Hunter and Prey is super underrated

[@flaviomonteiroretratos]

Never Understand, Hunters and Prey and Evil Warning!!

[@masteckel]

Glad to see you enjoy Angra! They are a huge name of Brazilian metal!

[@eduturk9]

he didn't enjoy it

[@masteckel]

It's on the kicked drums... He don't like this, but all the other elements on the music is ok

[@orlandomendes3616]

Angra + Andre Mattos = Perfection! Great band, RIP ANDRE!!

[@MrGarccia]

The song that they Sing in the begining is a tradicional candomblé song "salve salve iemaja, salve Janaína e tudo que se fez n'água, jogo flores para o mar, deus salve a rainha e meu passo nessa esfera" wich means "hail hail Iemanjá (a divinity from candomblé, Queen of Waters, wich was worshiped by slaves before they gone to the Sea), hail Janaína and everything that was made in the Waters, throw flowers on the Sea(it's a common way to pay tribute to Iemanjá), god sabe the Queen (Iemanjá), as i enter on her circle"

[@crisoliveira2644]

So that's what he sings! I always wanted to know!

[@MrGarccia]

@@crisoliveira2644 i took a long time to, till one day, i was passing by a terreiro, and a hear they singing It, hahahahah

[@GabrielPHahn]

Eu diria que é um "ponto" dedicado à Iemanjá, divindade de religiões de matrizes africanas, não somente/especificamente do Candomblé. ;-)

[@GabrielPHahn]

@@FranciscoBentoLucianoneto Se o berço da humanidade vem do continente africano, porque a "original" é Semíramis? 🤔

[@GabeAlbuquerque]

​@@GabrielPHahn bem, essa questão de origem das religiões caminha em separado da origem biológica do homem. No que tange a religiosidade, os mitos do Homem primitivo que permaneceu na África não se desenvolveram a ponto de serem a raíz da religiosidade posterior. Existe um conceito chamado de monomito, onde certos elementos de um mito podem ser rastreados em diferentes culturas por terem sido introduzidos em uma determinada região dada a influência cultural de um povo. No que tange as religiões de matriz africana e semítica (incluindo o cristianismo), esses elementos mitológicos repetidos são rastreados como tendo origem nos conceitos originários dos mitos Babilônicos-sumérios. Babilônicos e sumérios foram os primeiros a desenvolver uma grande sociedade sedentária e organizada, o que provavelmente favoreceu a imposição de sua cultura, mesmo que de maneira não intencional, nos povos que viviam ao seu redor. Já os mitos pagãos da Europa e a religiosidade das religiões asiáticas podem ser rastreadas como tendo origem na religião dos proto-indo-europeus (são os famosos "Arianos", só que este termo não é mais abertamente usado pela antropologia para evitar que os leigos façam associação ao nazismo).

[@brunomeneses91]

Carolina IV is about one of the many ship vessels that sank in the ocean. It opens and finishes with a afro-brazilian chant to Iemanjá, queen of the oceans. In Brazil, people tend to deliver things like flowers to this goddess, putting this in the water. The song suggests the seamen and the vessel sank as an tribute to Ieamanjá. The song begins and finishes with the same chant which says in its lyrics something about a cycle that is completed.

[@InnerSilence123]

I attended to that ceremony in Uruguay, it was something else.

[@marceloscachetti698]

Há... Holy Land foi um dos grandes álbuns do Angra... realmente maravilhoso. Tenho muito orgulho de nossa amada banda brasileira... Obrigado Doug!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@LIVS10]

Songs by Angra you'd enjoy: Make Believe; Deep Blue; Lasting Child, Lisbon. Other songs by Andre Matos in his other bands: Innocense by Shaman; Endeavour by Andre Matos solo.

[@Luizpauloterapeutacapilar]

Viper too...

[@itsalolmor]

I've been listening to them for 3 decades now and I just realized how this piece would definitely be something Neal Morse would appreciate.

[@LCM94120]

I saw Angra at Le Bataclan back at the time this record was released, one of the most incredible concert I have been too. Still remember Andre singing from the balconies... Amazing band

[@excaliburgd]

Hi Doug! I discovered your channel almost two years ago and have been a fan ever since. Only now in 2022 I was able to watch this video and, as a Brazilian lover of good music and heavy metal, I would like to point out a few things: - The chant in portuguese you can hear in the backvocals is a praise to the sea goddess of Candomblé, Iemanjá. Candomblé, in turn, roughly means "dance in honor of the gods" and is a religion that combines elements of African cultures, including Yoruba, Bantu, and Fon, as well as some elements of Catholicism and South American indigenous beliefs. No wonder we almost feel like dancing to the melody, even though it's still heavy metal music somehow! Candomble is also one of the most representative cultural and religious manifestations in Brazil. A translation can be found down below in the end of this comment. - Carolina IV was, literally, the bus that transported the band to the composition place of the Holy Land album. At that time, they had great commercial success with the first album (Angels Cry) and were full of dreams and hopes for this second album. The song's lyrics make a parallel between the historical journey into the unknown of the portuguese ships heading towards Brazil and the band`s journey on the bus to the studio! - The melody that can be heard between 07:32 and 07:56 is a song by another great Brazilian musician, Hermeto Pascoal, and is called “Bebê” (Baby, in English). Mr Hermeto is a self-taught composer, arranger and instrumentalist. Mr Hermeto was credited in the album's booklet. He is a genius of Brazilian music and being able to hear him alive is a privilege! I would love, if possible, for you to comment on some of Hermeto's songs, and maybe some more Angra as well!? All my best wishes for your channel, Doug! Regards from Brazil! “Hail, Hail, Iemanja! Hail, Janaina And everything that was done in the water. Throw flowers into the sea! God save the Queen And my step in that sphere”

[@epifanioanunes21]

At 7:41 you can hear a quote to the song called "Bebe" by the multi-instrumentalist Hermeto Pascoal. As for the drums with the double bass drums, it's simply the style of music: power metal predominates over the ethnic music forged for this album. Without the fast drums like this, without the kicks marked, it would just be another style of music.

[@bernardotrader777]

This initial rhythm of the drums in the song is a rhythm from a region of Brazil, Bahia, typical of a group called Olodum, this was the inspiration for Ricardo Confesori(drummer of the band)

[@pauloamw]

The contrasting sections depict what a sea voyage would have been like then, with storms, calm spells, adventure, pain and promise

[@susank2229]

It’s the percussion session that draws my attention actually hahah. I think this song is pretty interesting, as a metal song

[@renatonz]

Hey Doug, thanks for your comments. This was another great reaction. I appreciate your honesty as always. I understand how difficult it is for you to appreciate those fast percussion sections. What resonates with us is something very personal. It doesn't matter how eclectic a person is; there'll likely be something that person dislikes regardless of how "musically" appropriate that sounds. Out of curiosity, in some of the sections where the vocals go really soft and slow, with long words and phrases, and the drum is going lightning fast, it feels like tasting a "sandwich cookie": Crunchy outside, creamy inside. That (Havy+Soft) contrasting texture can be expressed and promoted in many different ways, and I believe I saw you appreciating this type of contrast in many songs. To me, there's another specific type of contrast that also tastes crunchy outside and creamy inside: Fast+Slow. For that one, the fastest part goes, the better. The same goes for the slow part. The slowest, the better. So, considering this, some of the sections in this song have a combination of (HARD+FAST)+(SOFT+SLOW)=Super-crunchy outside + Super-creamy inside. This is very personal, but I thought it would be curious to describe how it feels for someone who enjoys that kind of combination. If I find the time I'll suggest some stuff you'll like from them, including live performances with orchestra etc.

[@Celestialspirit1]

Alot of people talk bout kiko and andre but confesori's drumming mariutti and felipe andreoli's work is superb. Very underated

[@Hy-jg8ow]

The drums in those fast passages are meant to do the opposite of overwhelming the sound, rather it is meant to become a mere palette on which the playfulness of the other instruments can be painted on, and giving a sense of speed, by being so monotone, accentuating the rest of the musical elements. Its also interesting that you don't seem to appreciate its timber, it gives the music a special "taste" so to speak, which is enjoyable not because its complex, but because of the texture of the sound it contributes to.

[@Antares-dw9iv]

I love the song and don't really mind the kick drums but if that's what they were going for the drums have no business being as prominent in the mix as they are.

[@Hy-jg8ow]

@@Antares-dw9iv I guess you have to zone them out similarly to when you are looking at one of those pictures which emerge only if you stare at the seemingly chaotic shapes. Much of power metal uses this fast drumming the same way. You're kinda supposed to soar above the rhythm. Its an acquired taste I guess. Malmsteen and Stratovarius made me understand it in my case.

[@steveturner1815]

I think the fast kick parts are tenuous and awkward in timing, and they simply go on for too long. They’re just out of time here and there which is a shame.

[@steveturner1815]

@@Hy-jg8ow also in the other bands you mention the drums aren’t phasing in and out of time like in this song.

[@Hy-jg8ow]

@@steveturner1815 Well, I am only defending the technique, not this particular application, so.

[@shan_ma]

That 3rd part is taken from Hermeto Pascoal's "Bebe". I recommend the version from the Monash Session album. Top jazz/brazilian instrumental

[@kevinstelzer1063]

MUITO BOM PARABENS PELO VIDEO ,TEMOS MUITO ORGULHO DA BANDA ANGRA QUE REPRESENTA MUITO BEM O BRASIL . BEALTIFUL SONG MORE ANGRA PLEASE

[@jonnybassvideos5911]

Bom demais🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿

[@agarga10984]

Uma porcaria. Angra é bom depois da fase André Matos. E André Matos é Shaman

[@kevinstelzer1063]

@@agarga10984 Que bom que é a sua opinião e não a verdade . rsrs

[@agarga10984]

@@kevinstelzer1063 posso estar enganado, porque não? mas é exatamente o que eu acho

[@suijirokimimame3709]

@@agarga10984 vc diz que só é boa na fase Edu e Lione ?

[@brunozuniga5072]

Hey Doug! You can try from Angra: The Shadow Hunter, Morning Star, Omni-Silence, Magic Mirror (great Bass lines), Ego Painted Grey (great Bass lines also)

[@ofermentadordeideias8277]

wow! feels like christmas, what a gift!

[@philmuller-geib3361]

Indeed! Whenever I practice the Piano I place both Angels Cry and Holy Land right in front of me :-)

[@SimonLongKrogh]

When I listen to the fast passages in this song, where the tempo changes and the duble kick drums kick in - where you feel that the drum tracks were out of tempo with the rest of the composition - my sensation is that the drums are intentionally put to the very front of the beat to signify a powerful drive forward, consistent with the narrative of the European colonizers' journey across the ocean. Also I, and I'm sure a lot of other people who have spent many years listening to double kick drums in power metal and other genres, have no trouble discerning those from the rest of the arrangement. It's a matter of training and ultimately in the ears of the listener, I suppose.

[@drmarcosmegda6466]

Thanks for listening the song I suggested. Greetings from Brazil

[@_vitor.machado]

Hey Doug! For a song with more of this interesting harmony of the beginning of this song, try the song "Hunters and Prey" from them! No double kicks and a lot of this interesting harmonies! They have a lot of songs without this doubles kicks and more like a regular metal band too, like "Lisbon" and "Make Believe", for example!

[@Margilio5150]

That prominent bass kick sounds come from what was known as power metal back then, whether if it was intentional or not, the feeling of those low frequencies coming from drums double bass during a live performance is what attracts a LOT to the audience… anyway, I particularly loved that viola solo moment, still gives me goosebumps to this day. Glad you liked it.

[@RTPJu]

According to the band members, this song is about a photo session that they did when this album were recorded. They went to Chapada Diamantina and the tour bus, THAT WAS CALLED CAROLINA Nº4, stuck in mud. When they tried to help unstuck it, the bus almost overturn on them. Then, they decided to write this lyrics to an already done instrumental and named it. Cheers!

[@kevinbrown3082]

Doug, your choices of bands and music you react to always entertain me. Angra !!! Never did I think I’d see anyone react to Angra. A friend of mine got me listening to Angra many years ago. It’s not my thing really but there are some real nuggets of beauty to be found on all their albums. The drums put me off too but only because I’m not into speed metal. I saw you started reacting to Pain of Salvation too. The same friend got me listening to them around the same time. I really like POS. I think if you dig into them, you’ll be hooked too.

[@aziel9141]

Silence and Distance is a really good one and it doesnt have double kick drums!

[@Utubesuxmycock]

Best ballad ever. The noob will complain the 90s production

[@bakalaudia5620]

@@Utubesuxmycock 90s production can be overwhelming especially in power metal but Holy land is very well produced imo

[@darellabrego3030]

Great review Doug. Thanks for her. Brazilians already love you. It would be nice if you listened to the song ''Silence and Distance'' of the same album, as it was originally done on the piano. Angra's vocalist has classical training on the piano. Hugs.

[@ebg342]

Please listen to Haggard - Eppur si muove, this is a real classical music orchestra with metal elements.

[@leandrovr13]

agreed!

[@messiah7112]

It was a great coincidence that this song describes the discovery of Brazil, and this videos was uploaded on the Independence Day of Brazil.

[@DeckardRJ]

Thank you so much for doing Carolina IV , Doug!!

[@Forritouno]

His complexion completely changed when the double bass drums came in xd. So funny.

[@viniwittke]

Hey Doug, I really liked your honesty in giving your opinion instead of just pretending to love everithing you hear (as many music react channels do nowadays). I first heard this album when I was 9 years old, so it has a very strong nostalgic touch on me. Nonetheless, I never really payed too much attention to how discrepant those sections were, with the soft vocals and melodic parts and that double bass drum going mad. Definetely you got a point. Thanks for reacting to this iconic Brazilian metal band!

[@ArtaiTakahashi]

Hello Doug, thank you a lot for your interest and commentary on this genre, I appreciate it and your standpoint clarity so much given your profession. I know it's been 2 years since you recorded this but I'll leave you some background on the track. The Holy Land concept album is linked to shamanism and it kind of revolves around the evolution and awareness of the role character, where the events should be taken as metaphors. First chapter introduces the deserter, the second one extends the character's intention to lose all possession and romantic companion to sail on a journey to find what he's missing. The Carolina IV is the core section where he embarks for the expedition, and the rough musical diversity describes a long shipwreck. It sort of resembles the Rime of the Ancient Mariner since it really is a magical ordeal especially when the protagonist is certain of his demise, but is mystically driven to the shores of a pagan land. There he learns how to let his soul leave the body on later chapters, tries to come back home and spread his new understandings much like the Ancient Mariner's curse, but it definitely sets against him and brings him to his ruin. Hope this insight gets to you and your followers, have a good one!

[@produccionprovisoriaproduc8968]

Doug, check your headphones. You can't be so bothered by the double kick drum. Do not forget that it is another recourse of the genre. In this type of song this represents adrenaline and the spirit of adventure, as a counterpoint to the emotional that happens with the other instruments and the lyrics. With my very, very cheap headphones I can listen to all the musical richness of the song without problems. By the way, the percussion is not out of time, it is very tight!

[@Chewbaccara]

Had the same thought. I understand that he doesn't enjoy double bass (I am not the biggest fan either), but I never found its sound to be too overwhelming on this song.

[@yibril17]

@@Chewbaccara People, it's not about the headphones: it's about being accustomed to certain sounds...

[@andrelars]

@@yibril17 His hardware can have extra bass on it, idk if he already said something about it, but this might be the issue here.

[@yibril17]

@@andrelars I know, I know, but the main and most important *hardware* you are overlooking is this: the brain!!!

[@dimitriid]

While I don't think it's the headphones, I agree: Double kicks on metal are so prevalent that at one point, you either will run out of bands to check out on the channel if you actively avoid it and cannot get past it or if you do get used to it realize you have an overwhelming amount of bands and songs to go back to. I wouldn't hold it against you if it cuts your exploration of metal short mind you, but if you are enjoying some of the other aspects you might need to consider something like a "double kick week" which will be initially I imagine, very grading on you but might help you get used to it to a degree because yes: I personally know there's dozens upon dozens of bands I hold back on recommending because I know you either won't do them or won't get to give any critical opinion since they're very fast tempo double kicks for 5 minutes almost without stopping and I think many of your patreons and closer followers are probably thinking among the same lines.

[@dancrodrigues]

I once attended to a concert where the whole band played the intro with full percussion set on stage, it was freaking awesome! Also the drummer, Ricardo Confessori, has a mixed influence of both thrash metal AND brazilian regional music which makes him astonishingly impressive.

[@rafael_moreira]

Now i can rest in peace. Doug listened to Carolina IV.

[@benallen7403]

As much as I love this album, top to bottom, and Angra's first few albums generally, this just isn't they type of thing that feels like Doug's wheelhouse. If you find double kick drums annoying, power metal just isn't going to make you happy a lot of times. Of course, Doug's thoughts are always interesting, even if he's not feeling a piece.

[@benallen7403]

As for other Angra songs that Doug should take a look at, I think that "Lisbon" "and "Gentle Change" of the album Fireworks are good fits. "Fireworks", the title track, has a little bit of double kick, but I feel like it's less intrusive in the way that Doug dislikes. For Holy Land, "The Shamen", "Make Believe", and "Deep Blue" are good picks. "Silence and Distance" is good as well, though dated keyboard sounds appear here. It does have some double kick as well, but again, I think that it's maybe less intrusive than "Carolina IV". For their first album, their cover of "Wuthering Heights" is the only one I'd recommend for Doug. I love the album, but it's pretty heavy on the double kick throughout.

[@alexandre_am]

@@benallen7403 Never Understand would be my pick from the 1st album

[@JacobsKrąnųg]

Well, I'm a power metal fan, but I have to say that drums there are really bad.

[@GuitarooMan93]

Lets just tell him to do more recent albums pleaaaaase. Like I said in my comment: one of these: Temple Of Shadows, Aqua, Aurora Consurgen and Rebirth. Any song of them

[@benallen7403]

@@JacobsKrąnųg I started the video close to the end of the live chat and I think that I saw someone suggest that the drums in Carolina IV are intentionally slightly out of sync with the rest of the band. Don't know if there's anything to that, and to be perfectly frank it's never gotten in the way of my enjoyment of the song.

[@NunesPensador]

Doug, your ears are amazing. You got it right, it is mixolydian 4# (or mixo 13b) = D, E, F, G#, A, B, C, D. This particular scale Angra used a lot, it is common in traditional brazilian music

[@sethkaicer319]

My eyes are blind but I can see. Such is the fate of all but me. Take me to myself so high above. Lonely on the wings of crying doves.

[@adolfomendoncacursosmusica9588]

Lydian dominant scale, same as tritone sub scale. Quite common in Northeastern Brazilian music and somewhat common in Hungarian folk. Also used in a jazz for dominant chords ith #11. Most of that album has lyrics about events related to the colonization of Brazil, that's the reason why there's a map of the South America in the cover, and the name Holy Land, as many letters from the pioneers in South America described Brazil as a holy land, or a heaven, because its environment was very alive, good for agriculture and it hasn't been changed by the men. In 7:30, that flute part is a quote of the tune Bebe, by the Brazilian composer Hermeto Pascoal. Most of the orchestral parts in that album have been recorded using 1990s workstation keyboards, some of them recorded by Andre Matos (the singer) himself.

[@amazingskybra8630]

doug, Angra is still a power metal band in its core, sometime they can look like prog but they are still a power metal band, so many songs have the double kickdrum. i would recommend you "heroes of sand" its on the fourth album(Rebirth), Rebirth is the first album with the second line up, so it would be a cool reaction

[@JubaDeMetalAlumínio]

Actually, it's not Ricardo Confessori in the first album (Angel's Cry), but Alex Holzwarth (I think it's like this that it's spelled).

[@metalmark1214]

They must have heavier songs than this to be considered a "power metal" band, since this song isn't one

[@JubaDeMetalAlumínio]

@@metalmark1214 Maybe Nothing To Say or The Temple of Hate?

[@metalmark1214]

@@JubaDeMetalAlumínio Thanks, I'll check them out.

[@alexandre_am]

@@JubaDeMetalAlumínio Alex Holzwarth

[@tiagomaia1365]

From a brazilian, Angra is the best band of Brazil and this song is one of if not the their best song.

[@marcelobussadori1668]

You should listen to another ANGRA song called DEEP BLUE. The vocal LINE is amazing.

[@jaquelinerocha2586]

This song is awesome,simply

[@rokker1976]

Yes so so Good

[@diosanoli9035]

Essa é de chorar !

[@diegomata3624]

Yea, Daniel Diau performs really great in this piece

[@ArduinnaW]

This is my favorite album of all times, no matter what, it was the album that kept me alive and going when everything was coming down and also the lyrics that taught me English. Angra, blind guardian and Iron Maiden lyrics help to learn the language when I was 15.

[@WolfOfLosAngeles]

i love double kick drums it just adds so.much more powerful atmosphere and get me pumped up more.

[@AFx3144]

How I fucking miss those days. Nostalgic visits me right now. That André is gone, that Angra is gone, the youth is gone. But their legacy remains. Yeah! One of my fav songs by this band.

[@basileosalexios9200]

Brazilian here. Always wanted to explain what was my issue with the percussion on that song, now you nailed the explanation.

[@PauloOliveira-sn9mk]

Very cool! Angra is awesome! Please, more Symphony X!!!

[@JuanKGM]

Yes! Totally agree on Symphony X!

[@Hy-jg8ow]

Yep, Egypt would be cool, or anything from the V album really.

[@PauloOliveira-sn9mk]

@@JuanKGM My favorite progressive band!♥️

[@JuanKGM]

@@PauloOliveira-sn9mk Good taste, bro!

[@f.santos762]

Through The Looking Glass [Part I, II, III] my favorite.

[@rafaelmarmusic]

The "Bartok" scale used for the intro and ending theme (4th degree of a melodic minor ), also presente at Holy Land song, is trademark to music of Northeast Brazil, culturally richest and most interesting part of the country, so to say.

[@bryan_cap]

No way!!! Thank you so much for this reaction.

[@willkermenezesdarocha9278]

The song is pretty much divided in parts: the first is the lively and hopeful departure of the ship towards the new lands, like a farewell in the harbor. The second one is fast power metal, with the energy to face the ocean and the journey. The third one is sad and mellow, with all the deaths and difficulties of the hard trip through the oceans, to a destination that seems never to come. And then the arrival at last. The concept of the album, besides the european arrival in America, is to join the brazilian music (representing the native indians) and the power metal (representing the european navigators), what is what Angra used to do.

[@eduardohenrick]

The song mixes the history of the ship called Carolina with a bus that they traveled at the time of the production of this album, that had the same name (the members almost suffer an accident with this bus, making a parallel with the risks of sailing without gps and guidance during the discoveries century ago)

[@lostined]

Doug, your arguments are totally right. The drums rhythm In those genre ( speed metal) Always overwhelm the others instruments and frases. And quit the “feeling”. André Matos ( lead vocal in the early álbuns of Angra) was a such great musician, With a tremendous career. Unfortunately, passed away. But, to check his habilties as singer, listem to cover of Kate Bush Wuthering Weights, on Angra first álbum, Angels Cry. Regards!!

[@andrematos-oreidocanbaixo]

thank you for doing this react, thank you for fulfilling my request

[@lorenzofaglia9796]

Pour Doug !!! we appreciate you're trying very hard to enjoy double kick drum :) This is MAJOR album, full of fantastic ideas

[@andrewilde4609]

There is another interesting band of brazil, who is "shamam", also with André Matos in vocals, it's Worth knowing.

[@TheSolbiatii]

I’ve known this band when I was 14 and just after almost 20 years I can recognise the beauty of this song and the album/band concept

[@rpgenari]

Thanks Doug for the video! Thanks from Brazil!

[@rpgenari]

Please react to Shaman Fairy tale, Ritual Live version with Andre Matos on the Piano.

[@filipeselvatici]

Yes! This is the reaction I was expecting for!

[@apixphotographystudios]

Holy Land is a piece of art. More words cannot describe its majesty. So simple :)

[@Fabiohatores]

Loved your technical analysis of this song. Regarding of the drums, this beat is very common in speed metal and other variations of classic metal. I believe this "roller coaster" feeling about the different moments of the song is because they want to represent the lulls and the storms in the ocean...but I'm not sure. Best regards from another musician here!

[@eduardokazuo2900]

The drum rushing off the pocket of the rest of the piece is what defines the "European Melodic Metal" Genre! Cheers from Brazil!

[@xavierprat2019]

one of the bands of my youth. The bass on this band is just amazing

[@lucasharkness]

Angra - Silence Inside Another members and from another great master piece album

[@encyclopediaofpowermetal3644]

One thing to learn about power metal is yes, the kick drum is absolutely going to blow you away, every. single. time.

[@MrGarccia]

Oh, Doug, you should try a song called "gentle change", it's on the fireworks álbum, the Last one with André, there aint no double kick drums there, hahahaha

[@DiegoMatias]

uma das melhores faixas. dei a mesma sugestão.

[@marcosjbs4391]

Or Lasting Child! A supreme masterpiece with no double kicks too.

[@BrunoSirilo]

no double kicks and the rhythmic section is based in Ijexá patterns

[@JasonSmith-lp6wg]

For me, this song is one part Campbell's Hero Cycle, one part Rush's YYZ. The opening 'lick' you so enjoy - to me - represents the hero's sense for wonder and adventure. When they finally hit the ocean, the drums kick-in and the intensified pace represent's that adventurous spirit freed. At some point, the hero experiences hardships, which get reflected by the various musical shifts. Once those tribulations end, the intensified pace resumes, until the hero's home to stay, at which point your favoured 'lick' resumes, which shows the new adventure that awaits, as the return home brings its own sense of renewed wonder. I mention YYZ, because Rush wrote it to be the musical experience of one's journey from an aeroplane into - and through - an airport. A great review. Best, J.

[@fabionunes2793]

Doug with the double bass is the same thing as my ex grifriend complaining about high pitched guitar solos 😄. I really enjoy watching your reactions/reviews Doug.

[@_knz_kyokushin]

the title of the song came from the bus line that circulated in the small town where they composed the album, the bus sign read "Carolina IV" when the idea for the song came up, the bass player tells this story!

[@rodrigo_pel]

Doug, first of all, thanks for the reaction to our beloved Angra. My wife have the same complaints about drums in metal bands, but is part of the game. Just as other people had said, take a peak at Never Understand from the album Angels Cry and Gentle Change from the album Fireworks. Also, Andre Matos, the lead singer, was a great musician who also was a Maestro, and Rafael Bittencourt (guitar player) too if I'm not mistaken. Thanks again!!

[@lucasdeaguiar1912]

Hey Doug, cool video! I think this is one of my favorite Angra songs, precisely because of the mixture of styles haha. Here is another for you to react to: "Hunters and Prey". No double kicks in this one! Awesome song, from a different time in the band (different singer, bassist and drummer). Metal with brazilian rhythms, doesn't get any better!

[@deathtrap1976]

This brought me some sorrow remembering André Matos and his passing away.

[@narutohokage8342]

Its so good see a master of music react another master of the same wonderful world, congratulations Master Doug!👏🏻

[@lenafelipe]

This is awesome!! Such an honest reaction! Love it!

[@Myrt94]

Oh man I could feel this reaction. Discovered Holy Land through your channel and absolutely loved it (thanks for that!), so I was super excited to listen to the full album... What a rollercoaster of parts and pieces that I absolutely loved and parts that I hated. Pretty disappointing because without all the 'power metal' parts this album would've been an instant favorite. Great video!

[@Fcappia]

I love the "Hermeto Pascoal - Bebe" in there.

[@conscriptreporting6265]

Now i really want you to react to The Shadow Hunter from Angra, or Morning Star xD great reaction, love your deep knowledge and vision on the songs.

[@ViniAlmeidaSousa]

Doug, you should listen to "Late Redemption" from Angra. That's my favorite song from them and I bet you'd enjoy it!

[@GalvaoRJ]

Back when Angra wrote this album, they went to a house in the countryside. Carolina IV was the name of the small bus company that took them there.

[@viniciuscade]

This song is Angra’s masterpiece in my opinion.