1999 Tour de France

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1999 edition of Tour de France

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@gasolinewine801
@gasolinewine801 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad they were all racing clean. I would be heart broken to find out they were doping.
@Tazangamoz
@Tazangamoz 3 жыл бұрын
😂.... I really hope you were being sarcastic.
@Gaggerlotion
@Gaggerlotion 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you care?
@Trey_Johnson11
@Trey_Johnson11 3 жыл бұрын
Dope or no dope, it’s still great racing and fun to watch. I personally couldn’t care less what these guys were taking.
@jonsinkkonen9393
@jonsinkkonen9393 3 жыл бұрын
Like Nate Diaz said,they all everyone on peds. Applies to most sports,more extreme more peds you need.
@markblanch2905
@markblanch2905 3 жыл бұрын
😅👍😅
@youarepredictable
@youarepredictable Жыл бұрын
Man this takes me back. I was a cycling enthusiast and amateur racer(mountainbike and biathalons/triathalons) who did a ton of riding in the early/mid 90's and followed the sport quite a bit. I remember tuning in to watch every summer. I watched plenty of the tour before and after Lance was running things, but that time was truly exciting. I'd watch every weekend during the day and thankfully CBS or OLN or whoever was airing it would do sort of condensed "replays" at night that I'd tune in for for the first couple of his wins. By 2001, we had cable with DVR so I could record the entire stages. Nothing beats Phil LIgget and Paul Sherwen and Bob Roll on color commentary all those years.
@joeblack7469
@joeblack7469 2 жыл бұрын
If this isn’t an example of why we should just let them all dope I don’t know what is. Thank you for putting the edit together.
@fanda6122
@fanda6122 Жыл бұрын
ignorant comment it is hardly an even playing field and the teams with the biggest budgets dope the best. USPS and lance used influence to get the UCI to overlook positive testosterone results and bullied and snitched all while being dirty themselves. they could delay a car with EPO in the truck so that a rival didnt have the dose when they needed to. cyclists became more science experiment than athlete and it ruined the sport. even nowadays the nutrition is a secret and top riders take mystery recovery drinks and vitamin tablets. i am of the opinion it will never stop but the UCI needs to make sure the sport has credibility.
@bradford_shaun_murray
@bradford_shaun_murray Жыл бұрын
2:02:14 Rocky Balboa style
@g_y.rtz420
@g_y.rtz420 8 ай бұрын
nope no thank you only simpletons think like this. It's not about who the best at cycling is or even who the best at doping is, its whos the best at getting away with it is. Armstrong was a politician, he's well connected and knew insider information not only about the best drugs and best physician but also ho tests are going to be conducted. He's also very adept and flexible, every year he changes his strategy from employing "motoman" to deliver epo to avoid busts, to blood transfusions the following year, to microdoping the next. It's not even a competition when its just information gathering and getting creative with not getting caught. And I dont even have to mention the harassment and power tripping. It may be fun for you folks to delude yourselves into thinking its a level playing field but sorry, Id rather smoke weed if i want to fool myself.
@RaineriHakkarainen
@RaineriHakkarainen 6 ай бұрын
But if we have two groups free doping group and so called tested athletes! Real Shocker is that these so call tested clean athletes would do as good results as doping Stars! If we have two groups so we will hear from Norway Sweden Australia Canada their White clean athletes will beat Lance Armstrong easily! The truth is No-one clean athletes will beat Lance Armstrong! Clean would lose 3-4 minutes 60 minutes time trial to Armstrong!
@maddb3457
@maddb3457 Ай бұрын
​@@g_y.rtz420This is just professional sports. If you have the most naturally talented rider, but they don't train properly or get the nutrition, they will lose too. What is acceptable and what is not? The line is arbitrary.
@jonathondodge9070
@jonathondodge9070 3 жыл бұрын
Fun to rewatch all these years later. This was the first tour that I ever watched and it was magical then. Obviously overshadowed now. Classic Cycling, or whomever did the editing did a great job editing the tour down to this compilation. Thanks for the nostalgic afternoon while I turn wrenches at my own bike shop.
@cbx750frider
@cbx750frider 3 жыл бұрын
have a look at the 86 tour. lemond and hinault....excellent
@IncorrigibleBigotry
@IncorrigibleBigotry 3 жыл бұрын
Well said, dude. I could watch content like this all day long.
@personaljesus000
@personaljesus000 4 жыл бұрын
58:10, give a man some chalk and some clean pavement and they all draw the same thing.
@markblanch2905
@markblanch2905 3 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅🙂
@petef15
@petef15 2 жыл бұрын
'The same thought was going through my mind there, Paul'
@dengamleidiot
@dengamleidiot 2 жыл бұрын
Now a day, a team is hired to re-draw the pensles into something else less offensive
@durianriders
@durianriders 4 жыл бұрын
epic! Not as fast as today though. If a poor sport like cycling has a juice problem imagine what tennis, NBA, NFL etc are on!
@shane-irish
@shane-irish 4 жыл бұрын
Was way faster back then most on drugs lol its a bit cleaner today
@lordnosebergshekelmasterde6025
@lordnosebergshekelmasterde6025 4 жыл бұрын
@@shane-irish It's not cleaner at all today. The cyclists are just more careful about things.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 4 жыл бұрын
Protected sports (because money talks) are tennis, football/soccer, golf, NFL/gridiron, rugby union, and of course track and field, particularly if there's a big name. Drugs scandals cost money so there's a lot of protection/back scratching to keep a certain amount of testing to be kept QT or even have limited testing/advanced warnings.
@mikewalsh6168
@mikewalsh6168 4 жыл бұрын
@@shane-irish Dream on mate. 2020 winner was on something in that time trial
@shane-irish
@shane-irish 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordnosebergshekelmasterde6025 na its cleaner
@davidorasanin3800
@davidorasanin3800 3 жыл бұрын
Thx so much for this upload, it is just fenomenal. I am soo happy right now, watching this. 😁. You made my day.. 👍👍👍
@classiccycling48592
@classiccycling48592 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@alechull4300
@alechull4300 Жыл бұрын
What a spectacle, the race was incredible, Phil/Paul are legends
@peterlucey8282
@peterlucey8282 11 ай бұрын
Paul passed away a couple of years ago
@RogueCylon
@RogueCylon 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Paul Sherwen.
@edhu6p215
@edhu6p215 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I really enjoy the documentary style highlights and Phil leggets voice is wonderful. Even though controversy always surrounds TdF, the country and its people are a joy to see and learn.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 жыл бұрын
The way cycling fans continued to turn out in 1998 and beyond even with the highly publicized doping scandals in play demonstrates that, by and large, cycling fans DO NOT CARE about doping. Pro cycling exists because the fans want to see it, so whom do the witch hunts actually serve?
@galenkehler
@galenkehler 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't follow road racing until about 2005, looking back at these races now that I have the context of watching and racing myself, these performances are ridiculous. Amazing history.
@landonlusk9839
@landonlusk9839 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone was doping
@dennisjames3711
@dennisjames3711 3 жыл бұрын
there was a lot going on in cycling then. Real celebrities. Plus EPO and very high level. Now is childish ... Today's cycling looks funny riders do it for money etc.
@flavioposti6604
@flavioposti6604 3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisjames3711 sss
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын
I used to race mountain bikes in Alaska in the early 90s and I was pretty damn strong (and was getting faster since I had only been racing for 4 years before I got sick with ME/CFS in 93; I think I would have continued to develop over the next 4 years had I not gotten sick), and the idea of averaging 32 mph for 8 minutes is just extraordinary; drugs or not.
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisjames3711 Why do you say today’s cycling looks funny?
@JoanOH
@JoanOH 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your great videos. I'm an avid cycling enthusiast and love watching the races from the past.
@classiccycling48592
@classiccycling48592 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joan, I really appreciate it.
@jeffholder1156
@jeffholder1156 Жыл бұрын
I decided to rewatch the Tours from 1986 forward. Today is 1999. It is interesting the feelings that come up knowing the truth.😢
@cartermoth6447
@cartermoth6447 2 жыл бұрын
"And the speed of these riders on the climb... unbelievable". Indeed, unbelievable as in literally not believable. Fun spectacle though. But the TdF 1999 needed peak doped Pantani to take the fight to Armstrong.
@wraith8323
@wraith8323 2 жыл бұрын
TBH with cycling, bodybuilding, baseball you name it, I would be totally OK with a clean competition, then the sideshow of folks on PEDS. Unfortunately it's a game of whose deceit is best, and competing clean at the highest level seems near impossible
@bradford_shaun_murray
@bradford_shaun_murray Жыл бұрын
1:32:39 woah 1:44:55 ...wtf on earth has happened !? 2:37:03 woah
@brianmcg321
@brianmcg321 2 жыл бұрын
I've watch these in VHS hundreds of times. These were so much better than any coverage we ever got in the states at the time.
@christopher5585
@christopher5585 Жыл бұрын
Guess you weren't around to watch CBS Tour de France coverage 1983-1988.
@BroadsideBob
@BroadsideBob 3 жыл бұрын
“I can remember what my wife looks like.”🤣
@starkparker16
@starkparker16 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for posting
@classiccycling48592
@classiccycling48592 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@michaelvitiello9960
@michaelvitiello9960 Жыл бұрын
I miss these days so much.
@felroberto
@felroberto 4 жыл бұрын
After the scandal of Festina Team in 1998 it is very disappointing that the Tour organisers did not radically upgrade doping controls in 1999. They knew most of top contenders had any reason to use drugs including Armstrong but Tour de France is principally a bussiness and money comes first 😪
@bucknaked6674
@bucknaked6674 4 жыл бұрын
They did radically improve doping controls, they introduced the 50% haematocrit rule which led to the finish of pantani's career. There was no way of testing for growth hormone or epo or transfusions back then. There was one for testosterone but it could be gotten around and although they've improved it, hence Floyd Landis was caught, it still can be worked around. The same drugs and methods are still being used today, just smaller dosages more regularly so they don't trigger the passport. The unknown is what drugs have been developed since that are also being used, most likely aicar at small dosages at the very least.
@elypeachy3296
@elypeachy3296 3 жыл бұрын
@@bucknaked6674 Listen to what Travis Tygart had to say about that on podcast "Travis Tygart Is Coming for Cheaters - Just Ask Lance Armstrong (People I (Mostly) Admire Ep. 33)" @28:30 mark
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын
@@bucknaked6674 I raced mountain bike in Alaska in the early 90s and I couldn’t even imagine using such drugs. I would quit before doing that.
@cartermoth6447
@cartermoth6447 2 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't the riders, it's the dope controls. Every Tour winner since year zero was on some sort of medication/performance enhancer. It's just the nature of the sport. Armstrong did what everyone else did & still does (lol @ Pogacar). Dope controls were introduced by ignorant morons who understand nothing about cycling & since then, it's gotten worse & worse. Riders now can't even take a cortisone injection for a sore knee. It's absurd. The public wants Tour champions who attack, who have panache, stages with excitement & great memories... but they sh*t themselves with anguish & self righteousness when they hear the riders are on medication. This problem was initially caused by the introduction of dope controls in 1966. Before that, no one asked questions or shat all over the athletes.
@sukhmaidickoff
@sukhmaidickoff 2 жыл бұрын
@@cartermoth6447 So basically it doesn´t bother you the slightest that for many years the person / the team with the best doctors and the best drug-company behind them won the race?
@alfredwilson7276
@alfredwilson7276 3 жыл бұрын
Oh well, this is like watching the movie Titanic. Was entertaining nevertheless but we all know the outcome going in.
@bradford_shaun_murray
@bradford_shaun_murray Жыл бұрын
2:13:38🍔
@shane-irish
@shane-irish Жыл бұрын
Remember waking up watching the mountain stadges and the epo everywhere
@aliverbirduponmychest3055
@aliverbirduponmychest3055 6 ай бұрын
I have been watching the TDF since the mid 1980's, it was and still is the highlight of my year. Phil's, Paul's and Gary's commentary is sorely missed. The Lance Armstrong story was such feel good story, a miracle. Everyone knew they were all doping, it was almost priced into any cycling enthusiasts hero worship of the elite riders fans. I doubt the UCI, TDF or WADA would have made such an example of Armstrong only for his abhorrent behaviour towards towards journalists like Walsh, other riders like Hamilton and Landis, or the things he said and did towards Frankie Andreau's wife and the teams masseuse. What destroyed any respect I had for him as a human being was the shocking attack on one of the sports GOAT Greg LeMond. We all know now they were all doping with steroids and EPO, what is the biggest mystery is how he managed to provide completely clean doping tests? An even bigger mystery is how the current generation manage to crush all records when they are all riding clean, now that is a head scratcher!!!
@carnebie
@carnebie Жыл бұрын
It is wild going back and watching old tours and realizing NO ONE wore helmets. Such an obvious thing now, but was just not the norm then.
@SampoSaarela
@SampoSaarela 7 ай бұрын
Yep, it is also wild knowing that every one of them was doped up to the eye balls. At least they wear helmets nowadays.
@xyphenius9942
@xyphenius9942 Жыл бұрын
If someone could timestamp this with highlights I would forever be indebted to you 🙏
@geoffaldwinckle1096
@geoffaldwinckle1096 2 жыл бұрын
The Armstrong interviews are hilarious.
@joespumoni2316
@joespumoni2316 3 жыл бұрын
Dope video
@pantanifan
@pantanifan Жыл бұрын
Great! Can you post please other 90' Tour de France? Thanks!
@kickinit333
@kickinit333 6 ай бұрын
I would wake-up at 3am to watch the stages. We all know the truth now but at the time, it was amazing to watch.
@rafaelrazon9738
@rafaelrazon9738 Жыл бұрын
TDF 1999-2005 - Legendary and The Best!
@inthedarkwoods2022
@inthedarkwoods2022 8 ай бұрын
The best doper...
@rochellestanley9532
@rochellestanley9532 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@gregcueva8631
@gregcueva8631 4 жыл бұрын
1:58:31 Hmmm... Yes, he's not taking drugs.
@bradford_shaun_murray
@bradford_shaun_murray Жыл бұрын
The Aluminium and Carbon era, among over "things".
@lorenzogumier7646
@lorenzogumier7646 Жыл бұрын
Lance brought to a new level a system that already existed and that was thriving. A super athlete, a bright mind and an entrepreneur, Lance did what all the rest wish they could. He got all the shame simply because he was the most successful, not the most dishonest
@gazzawhite
@gazzawhite Жыл бұрын
That's not the only only reason he got shamed.
@rochellestanley9532
@rochellestanley9532 3 ай бұрын
Loved the bikes of USPS in this tour 🥇🇺🇸
@johnnydallas9212
@johnnydallas9212 2 ай бұрын
TV Gold Phil & Paul ( 1999 great tour )
@pranavkhanna8814
@pranavkhanna8814 3 жыл бұрын
There are two versions of commentary for this stage
@countdown.moments
@countdown.moments 2 жыл бұрын
The lies remain the same... This year edition will look a lot like this tour.
@gasken2182
@gasken2182 2 жыл бұрын
When asked in interview if he’d do it all again, Lance always says a definite yes. LA career earnings $125m. Fine & lawsuits for doping, $16.5m. So, not surprised he’d do it all again lol
@CaptXireland
@CaptXireland 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how we had the fastest TDF this year and ppl actually believe that it's clean
@Qwerty-fy6fx
@Qwerty-fy6fx 2 жыл бұрын
I actually don't know. Maybe it's because of our tech too? I've read that riders were using 9 speed in that year and TdF 2022 we're on 12 speed electronic groupsets. We've made the wheel rounder, faster tyres, better bearings, lighter bikes, better understanding of aerodynamics, nutrition, bike fit, and many more. But we can't be sure because maybe we got better at hiding doping
@muhammadfarhan581
@muhammadfarhan581 2 жыл бұрын
@@Qwerty-fy6fx i watched the movie "the armstrong lie". 98 tdf was a pr nightmare when festina team (one of famous pro tour team) caught red handed. The organizers wanted 99 to be the slowest tdf ever. But instead, we got armstrong breaking records. The reason why most ppl believe (many fans and media did question it) but most ppl believe bcos they all too invested in the romantic story of cancer survivor doing the impossible, and uci ride him as he is a cash cow, kinda like dana white sucking up mcgregor. Armstrong claim that uci did protect him those 7 years
@goodoleme747
@goodoleme747 Жыл бұрын
@@Qwerty-fy6fx the shelf life on some of these drugs nowadays is short.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 Жыл бұрын
@@Qwerty-fy6fxNaïve.
@joshiek7839
@joshiek7839 4 ай бұрын
@Newtube_Channelhow do you know it’s not true. All teams spend more on doctors now than US Postal did.
@ThrowINTS
@ThrowINTS Жыл бұрын
“Our roided-up guy beat YOUR roided-up guy.” - Bill Burr Ha ha ha. 😂
@phililpb
@phililpb 11 ай бұрын
then all the roided up guys die before 50 and every kid trying the sport is also roided up and suffer serious side effects. not so funny
@Milkywayboy
@Milkywayboy Ай бұрын
@@phililpbadults can choose to do what they want! Quit trying to control everyone! Only a few died BTW Quit spreading BS
@adrianj78
@adrianj78 3 жыл бұрын
7:58 the first Armstrong lie? He is nervous and is worried that Imlach is suggesting his performance is drug assisted, so he lies, “I don't know the times...,” - rubbish!! We know that USP were into knowing all the details about everything, he even says he knew what times his rivals had!
@emeraldcitycs6662
@emeraldcitycs6662 3 жыл бұрын
Good catch.
@nealm6764
@nealm6764 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know Lance is lying? When you see his lips moving, he is lying.
@IronHorsey3
@IronHorsey3 2 жыл бұрын
The Miracle of EPO. US Postal showed best dosing. 😅
@willsprint4beer818
@willsprint4beer818 3 жыл бұрын
I could care less about the scandals. Most everyone winning in that era was doping. It takes major skill(and luck) just to stay out of catastrophic crashes. Lance’s reign was probably the greatest achievement in sports.
@laszlozoltan5021
@laszlozoltan5021 3 жыл бұрын
sports or fraud? neither.
@topfell8277
@topfell8277 3 жыл бұрын
They all doped diff forms
@jsquire5pa
@jsquire5pa Жыл бұрын
You couldn’t care less
@micheledesantis443
@micheledesantis443 2 жыл бұрын
Che era bello vincere facile, senza parole......
@colinstewart7123
@colinstewart7123 3 жыл бұрын
The more competitive an environment, the more logical a cheating strategy becomes. This principle explains all sorts of phenomena. From doping in sports to sharp practice on Wall St. 👹
@p.l.diablo9864
@p.l.diablo9864 6 ай бұрын
The problem is choice. It's what shows your character and ethics.
@Theytfguhyre
@Theytfguhyre 2 жыл бұрын
The only time in our lifetime that Americans will ever watch the "Tour". Lance was the MAN!!!!
@niceguy1774
@niceguy1774 Жыл бұрын
None accidentally stayed tuned-in for Floyd?
@kampango789
@kampango789 4 жыл бұрын
The first and best pharmaceutical year in 1999
@gregcueva8631
@gregcueva8631 4 жыл бұрын
1998 had a lot more EPO I promise you.
@itsfrankmooneythedrummerwi2988
@itsfrankmooneythedrummerwi2988 4 жыл бұрын
Learn your cycling history before you make idiotic statements drugs in 99 had been on the tour at least since 89
@danjo1967
@danjo1967 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsfrankmooneythedrummerwi2988 .... its always been there in some form depending on the era
@IronHorsey3
@IronHorsey3 2 жыл бұрын
@@danjo1967 - sure, but EPO holds the gold medal
@Milkywayboy
@Milkywayboy Ай бұрын
The first😂😂
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 2 жыл бұрын
"It's the Lance Armstrong style of pedaling that allows him to win races, nothing more" - Paul
@phililpb
@phililpb 11 ай бұрын
Well it helped
@rochellestanley9532
@rochellestanley9532 3 жыл бұрын
Simply loved cycling in these days
@christiankeim
@christiankeim 11 ай бұрын
Future shock doesn't make sense to me. We don't absorb impact up and down, redshift I feel kinda figured it out. BMC is going to be adapting them into their builds following season
@julesvanels6116
@julesvanels6116 3 жыл бұрын
That he used dope for so long and not been caught. I think how many kickbacks have been payed. To also the president of UCI Hein Verbruggen
@jerompatterson7223
@jerompatterson7223 3 ай бұрын
Lance is still the GOAT
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ 5 ай бұрын
Really miss these long time trials. They were insanely impressive! And that way its not always the strongest climber to win the Tour
@ivantackes8580
@ivantackes8580 4 жыл бұрын
They tested Armstrong and he was clean and got away with it into a year minute to it cycling was more exciting back then than it is now
@sukhmaidickoff
@sukhmaidickoff 2 жыл бұрын
No. Just no. I know your comment is 2 years old now - but you just have to watch TdF of 2022 and you will know that your comment didn´t age well
@riquelmeone
@riquelmeone 2 ай бұрын
So, Pavel Tonkov trained hard for that occasion and came with a cap to the prologue?
@billrose2202
@billrose2202 4 жыл бұрын
They should make them smoke weed and drink beer. That's good dope there haha
@abone2pick
@abone2pick 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 60s they actually did just that
@TheRainmanBachelor
@TheRainmanBachelor Жыл бұрын
The words of journalist David Walsh from his convo with Armstrong rings true. “I felt at that point that everything he was telling me was a lie.”
@TheRainmanBachelor
@TheRainmanBachelor 9 ай бұрын
@@kindregardless someone with morals
@lpr5269
@lpr5269 4 ай бұрын
It's kind of stupid to set up the rules to force people to lie and then complain about them lying. What was he supposed to do? Say "Everyone uses PED's including me. Anybody who is serious about winning." Then what? Career over.
@Milkywayboy
@Milkywayboy Ай бұрын
@@lpr5269yup he showed up Most of them were doing it So he started too! What was he supposed to do😂 Admit it😂
@lennycottingham
@lennycottingham 5 ай бұрын
Even the Red Devil was on dope
@SUBTUBESCENT
@SUBTUBESCENT 3 жыл бұрын
wish there was a version without the dramatic sound bed
@squeakyproductions
@squeakyproductions 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Phil Liggett's commentary, both him and David Duffield.
@mazpr2025
@mazpr2025 Жыл бұрын
You mean Paul!
@fabiotabollini5431
@fabiotabollini5431 2 ай бұрын
I was at this TDF! 🎉
@Ryz414
@Ryz414 3 жыл бұрын
The first one Armstrong won. Such a shame how dope just is common place in the Pro Pelton.
@spanishlefty
@spanishlefty Жыл бұрын
5:41 "What a comeback this could be". And it was.
@timotune
@timotune 3 жыл бұрын
Best times/era in cycling 🥰🥰🥰
@bradford_shaun_murray
@bradford_shaun_murray Жыл бұрын
14:11🚀
@marccarter1350
@marccarter1350 3 жыл бұрын
This was awful late-night coverage we had in the UK in the late 1999's. It was awful then, it's even worse now!
@nealm6764
@nealm6764 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@roadracer1584
@roadracer1584 4 жыл бұрын
I love EPO!
@dakotamiller6274
@dakotamiller6274 2 жыл бұрын
how much fun the TdF was back and what a poor event it is today. Sad; just sad, where we have come to.
@EagleLogic
@EagleLogic 2 жыл бұрын
This tour was fucking great
@mauricioluisvega8342
@mauricioluisvega8342 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I saw the racce. aaaaaaaaah,,,,StrongFail!...
@Kat-zj5kd
@Kat-zj5kd Жыл бұрын
Lance armstrong was tour de france in my mind. I think they were too harsh with hom and scapegoated him for whatever doping - that almost all of them do.. he is fabulous
@ShimmyD-u7g
@ShimmyD-u7g Жыл бұрын
If he was just quiet, and if he didn't make his comeback, everyone would have not cared. All of them were dopers, Indurain was riding with tons of dopers, no way he wasn't doing it either.
@pete2448
@pete2448 11 ай бұрын
Lance is the biggest jackass in cycling history. I've seen him race a few times when he was about 20-years old and I knew guys in the peloton, nobody liked his arrogance. That same arrogance made him think it was okay to dope both physically and mechanically. Arrogance that thinks he can win the TDF 7X IN A ROW! That arrogance made him reveal Greg Lemond's private details of having been molested as a child. The same jackass that ruined Lemond's frame building company. To this day, he still thinks Floyd landis was wrong for outing him in doping scandal. Dude is the biggest tool in American cycling history.
@p.l.diablo9864
@p.l.diablo9864 6 ай бұрын
Guy is a con man. A cheater. Ge ruined cycling for true domestiques.
@MicroageHD
@MicroageHD 6 ай бұрын
Lance Armstrong is the biggest fraudster in sports of all time
@Aegis90
@Aegis90 Жыл бұрын
Well, for all you apologists, it's true Armstrong was part of a bigger problem. But the worst part is how he carried it. When you watch how he came after people even close to him, it's quite disturbing.
@onfiredesign3970
@onfiredesign3970 4 жыл бұрын
So many adjectives...all in shock
@rderouck
@rderouck 5 ай бұрын
After 1998 every cycling fan kne full well we were in the midst of the EPO era. I honestly didn't care; this was an epic Tour de France and Armstrong would've won in a clean era
@RogueCylon
@RogueCylon 4 жыл бұрын
What’s your secret Lance? “I will tell you when I retire, and you can hate me more then”.
@Rebelass74
@Rebelass74 3 жыл бұрын
In fairness, they were all juiced up.
@icarus8471
@icarus8471 Жыл бұрын
Those years were great races. Armstrong did not create the doping problem in cycling. By the early 90s the peloton was a rolling pharmacy with EPO emerging. Armstrong was the best rider of the EPO doping era. There is a reason why after he was officially stripped of his 7 TDF titles, no one else was declared the winner. And all the the govt setting out to destroy Armstrong did was to destroy US cycling without cleaning up the sport at all.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 “witch hunt”. “Fake nooos”
@stockob12
@stockob12 Жыл бұрын
Armstrong essentially ruined Gregs life for saying he was disappointed that Lance works with Ferrari. He was a psychotic PoS. Read Hamiltons book
@icarus8471
@icarus8471 Жыл бұрын
@@stockob12-Why should Lemond have said anythingn though? He saw the EPO revolution in the sport first hand, suffered bc of it. Then why should Armstrong doping have upset him?
@stockob12
@stockob12 Жыл бұрын
@@icarus8471 you answered your own question lol Lance ruined his name and bankrupted his 20 million dollars a year business because Greg dared speak the truth... he didnt even call lance out, he said it will be the biggest fraud if lance is doping, thats all it took for lance to ruin his life. You are obviously a delusional fanboy if you are defending lance doing that
@icarus8471
@icarus8471 Жыл бұрын
I know the whole story. Which does not answer my question. Lemond knew what the sport was. And he understood how his business was depending on other companies that were centered around Lance. He says nothing and it would have been fine.
@jackhammer111
@jackhammer111 3 жыл бұрын
I think Lance spent too much time denying it. Not that he didn't have to say something but that he didn't have to say that much. This is how the French "get Lance Armstrong's head on a pike" hysteria began. A simple denial was all that was needed because a strong denial wasn't going to convince anybody. He knew he was using EPO, and he also knew the damn near everybody else in the field was too. It was a completely Level Playing Field. You didn't have better EPO or do more EPO and the idea but they had a more sophisticated doping program is ridiculous because at that point Lance didn't have money in the team didn't have money. U.s. postal was not a high-budget team when Lance arrived. Lance received his last round of chemotherapy on December 13th 1996. He shocked team Cofidis by showing up at their training camp on January 11th 1997 and doing a hundred-mile ride. Nonetheless, they voided his contract. In 1998 Lance rode for US postal for no salary. The team owner agreed to pay Lance $1,000 per world ranking point he scored. He scored over a thousand points without riding in the Tour de France. Ask anyone who's ever written with Lance if they know anyone who trained harder and longer and smarter than Lance. Lance clearly saw that the EPO allowed him to train harder and longer whereas other Riders, Jan Ullrich comes to mind, used it as a substitute for training. If you have to name a natural freak of nature Talent Lance has it is his ability to recover. Teammates have said Lance could fall asleep anywhere and sleep like the Dead and wake up raring to go. Winning grand Tours starts with having crit and hemoglobin levels High Enough to deliver enough oxygen to muscle cells that have been trained to be highly efficient in sucking all of the oxygen out of the blood plus processing sugars and fats but maybe the second most important factor has to do with sleep and because that is where the billion years of evolution taught our muscle cells to recover. Maybe Lance was just a world championship sleeper. He's the greatest Grand Tour racer to ever throw a leg over a bike. I actually heard Eddy merckx say exactly that.
@elypeachy3296
@elypeachy3296 3 жыл бұрын
Good interview where he details some of what you said kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXbMgqemmp2Zn80
@jackhammer111
@jackhammer111 3 жыл бұрын
@@elypeachy3296 Yes! He calls lance a champion sleeper. I wasn't surprised when he went after a sleep monitoring system as a sponsor for his show. The whole interview was great. Thanks very much for turning me on to that. It's the best interview with Lance I've ever heard.
@elypeachy3296
@elypeachy3296 3 жыл бұрын
​@@jackhammer111 If you want another interesting listen google "Travis Tygart Is Coming for Cheaters" half of the podcast is about Lance by the guy who is the CEO of anti-doping agency who put the lid on Lance. There is good insight to the darker side of Lance where he pokerfaced ruthlessly to the very end knowingly he will be caught. Reality was even uglier as Armstrong went after people, but I don't remember from which documentary it was that I watched long ago.
@elypeachy3296
@elypeachy3296 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackhammer111 At its "Lance Armstrong - Master Of Spin" that was thinking of
@laszlozoltan5021
@laszlozoltan5021 3 жыл бұрын
good insight - I read that LA said he had $46000 in the bank post cancer when he went back to the US following his poor Euro race. For a HS dropout with no other career plans, I can fully sympathize with the temptation to cheat via dope. I do consider myself an honest person, but, given similar circumstances, I cannot say I would have done different than he. However, before that it has been alleged that LA engineered his triple-crown $1000000 paycheque with a payoff agreement so perhaps cheating one way or another is his modus operandi/ character flaw. It is a shame that LA cheated- because had he not- he still couldve been a champion rider- but because he did, we and he will never truly know. At least the fact of his doping has come out, ending the questions.
@leod4315
@leod4315 Жыл бұрын
Cipo at 36:00 is interesting in light of his current situation
@dogusbuke2507
@dogusbuke2507 2 жыл бұрын
tour is cancelled but not cipolini's record. 🤔i like this kind of controversies. 😄 ITT was amazing :)
@ManuelFlores-oe2wf
@ManuelFlores-oe2wf 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the problem?? Us Postal has clauses in their contracts that says they can’t use drugs? Case closed!
@lordnosebergshekelmasterde6025
@lordnosebergshekelmasterde6025 4 жыл бұрын
All the teams were using drugs, as well as all the top riders. Still no test for EPO in 1999.
@RogueCylon
@RogueCylon 4 жыл бұрын
Lord Noseberg Shekelmaster de Rothschild some did it more than anyone else...cough cough. Biggest cheats were the US postal team.
@needfoolthings
@needfoolthings 3 жыл бұрын
Mapei should have won every single classement, trying to get out of their horrible rags.
@shane-irish
@shane-irish 4 жыл бұрын
Dont care if they were all on drugs still best times in cycling glad seeing more off the mountain stages than flat ones
@Medevil9908
@Medevil9908 2 жыл бұрын
58:09 Someone painted a dong in the road lol
@robertoneil9304
@robertoneil9304 Жыл бұрын
Phill Liggett has the voice of an angel
@aaxxa
@aaxxa 3 жыл бұрын
Did Phil finally admit he was wrong about Lance?
@kevindecoteau3186
@kevindecoteau3186 3 жыл бұрын
he was not
@arvandero
@arvandero 2 ай бұрын
Dopestrong 4EVER!
@aimiessyou4770
@aimiessyou4770 3 жыл бұрын
There are 2 types of dopers: 1. Those few who become great 2. Most of them who still suck
@caro_santamaria
@caro_santamaria 3 жыл бұрын
2:44:12 "CLEAN TOUR" 😂 Bless your heart! lol
@MONYN76ISLAS
@MONYN76ISLAS 2 жыл бұрын
excellent tour for lancé armstrong .. well deserved victory .. world champion in 93 '... good riders in their time .. excellent video 🚴🚴
@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158
@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 Жыл бұрын
That's irony...right 😮?
@afinkeln
@afinkeln 11 ай бұрын
@@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 they are all on something at that level
@sidritvaqari.svpipesdesign
@sidritvaqari.svpipesdesign 10 ай бұрын
Idiot like Armstrong
@melaniamonicacraciun9900
@melaniamonicacraciun9900 Жыл бұрын
Let them web technologies work for you guys, enjoying such EPIC events, yeah, when we used to be such dreamers, such innocent kids, unforgettable indeed, looking back in time learning to improve the future of cycling competitions, more cycling for everybody plizzzzzz, l am the biggest supporter of yours guys
@michaelhazell6878
@michaelhazell6878 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they are racing clean 👍🙏💖😀I would be heart broken if I find out if they are doping.
@CptJET-he8nc
@CptJET-he8nc 3 жыл бұрын
TY
@needfoolthings
@needfoolthings 3 жыл бұрын
1:26:00 AMAZING, this early interview with a pathological liar.
@joeenglert
@joeenglert Жыл бұрын
the days of aluminum bikes and lots of drugs
@cgarby
@cgarby 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Paul
@hoboroller5642
@hoboroller5642 2 жыл бұрын
Dope or no dope, you still up to train and have little luck to win!!
@BIGDADDYFRESHx
@BIGDADDYFRESHx 2 жыл бұрын
Lance raised a half a TRILLION for the cancer cause. If you have cancer in the United States today;the treatment and support you receive is improved compared to generations past partly because of Lance Armstrong.
@ohcrapitsmrG
@ohcrapitsmrG Жыл бұрын
Or giant money laundering
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@TweedSuit
@TweedSuit 2 жыл бұрын
Armstrong doped from 1992-1996 and was never a contender for GC in any of the grand tours he raced before 1999. The main reason for him winning the TDF from 1999 was his weight loss after the cancer recovery and his building a team focusing on him. Of course doping was still a major part of it but not the most crucial.
@yanara8198
@yanara8198 2 жыл бұрын
Dope is strong?
@CheviotHills
@CheviotHills Жыл бұрын
Back when France was France
@xEKOy
@xEKOy Жыл бұрын
everyone doped up to 200%, love it
@luisgonzalezalvarez1596
@luisgonzalezalvarez1596 Жыл бұрын
10 secondes better than indurain in this same time trial..that means at those times miguel did not have a seriuous pretendant behind him to win him in the tours
@AlonsoRules
@AlonsoRules 2 жыл бұрын
Armstrong nearly went through this TdF in yellow wire to wire
@sukhmaidickoff
@sukhmaidickoff 2 жыл бұрын
The man with the best doctors win
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