Classrooms in Crisis: “I heard stories about second graders throwing a chair through a window.”

[@kimberlyhicks3644]

As a former teacher, I can tell you from personal experience: we did not sign up for this crap!!!

[@lorenhackney9981]

No we did not!

[@mariekatherine5238]

Last year I was hit with a metal folding chair spun like a Frisbee by an eight year old. I was bruised on my right side from just below my rib cage to an inch above my knee. I developed a hematoma on my hip and buttock. The child is still in the school, still having violent outbursts. I have yet to have been compensated for medical costs. And let’s not even mention my stress level and the horrible effect on the other students. Schools and teachers are no longer educating children; we’re raising them because their parents aren’t.

[@lisamarie4966]

Sorry to hear about that.

[@MrCoontwo]

Oh ohh! You just done a bad ting. You just went to forbidden territory. Shhhhhh. Families, parents (especially mothers, moms, mommies) are sacred. They can do no wrong. We're not supposed to criticize them. You better go to a catholic church and receive confession from one of our beautifully attired fathers in that little box. Hurry.

[@TheClownVP]

Let me guess, school is turning ghetto

[@kathytownsend4070]

Parents are probably meth heads and tokes that never even talk to their kids.

[@TheClownVP]

Kathy Townsend so that’s how you raise yours huh

[@dyannehorton6848]

When I was a child in the 50's and 60's, I knew a lot of kids with horrible lives. Children were still considered property of their parents. Some of them went to school with noticeable wounds. STILL, There was only one boy who acted out and threw a desk at a teacher. He was promptly removed from the school and home and placed in a home for wayward boys. In all the years of school K-12 that was the only time there was violence in school. There is more going here.

[@cmonster67]

They did the same in the 70s too but back then parents had much more influence over their kids and teachers were able to focus on teaching much MUCH more than now.

[@asho345]

Sometimes negative attention is better than no attention to a kid. The type of trauma kids are facing today is more likely to be broken homes and neglect.

[@ratherbfishing455]

Bad parents and inappropriate environment.

[@austinballard6815]

I never saw anything like what's described in this program when I was in school in the 80s. Acting out was rare and anything truly violent, I can't really recall anything serious happening aside from occasional schoolyard brawls. These kids, there's something else going on. I'd say emotional neglect is definitely high on the list, and consequently, a lack of meaningful discipline. These kids are not developing as quickly as they did before because they arnt in a healthy nurturing environment. Single parents, daycare without parent bonding, tablets take the place of human interaction, overly structured schedules fir 6 year olds....

[@pduran880]

Expel or remove troubled kids into different class or special needs school. Problem solved!!

[@ratherbfishing455]

Most are in special ed and protected by Federal law.

[@meredithmericle7487]

No, problem won't be solved. Charges filed, jury assembled, and kid and parents tried. If found guilty, parents fined within an inch of their lives, and student put into a juvenile corrections facility until old enough for prison. Kids like this cannot be salvaged. The 2 or 3 who are by some miracle redeemed make the headlines.

[@larrysmith1568]

If I was a teacher I wouldn't last 5 minutes. I would be arrested for assault or murder.

[@MIRAISHOME000]

Hmm

[@kennethdowning4417]

How about going to a strictly online school model? That way, when kids feel the need to go nuts and toss furniture around, they risk knocking their parents out or killing the flat screen TV in the family room..

[@patricklee8088]

The problem is someone, usually both parents, have to work. Sending a child to a brick-&-motor facility allows parents to go to work with the hope of the child being educated. But assume the students are of an age when they can be left at home on their own. Who's going to make them do their work or attend classes when nobody's home to watch them? By the time parents come home, it's too late for kiddo to attend class and the parents are often exhausted from working to help with assignments. This is what many families and teachers experienced during COVID. And there's the fact that some parents are doing things at home where they would prefer their kids weren't around to interrupt them.

[@gummy5862]

Idk if you posted this before or after all the Covid shutdowns but uh... 😂

[@christopherphillips6486]

Schools are babysitting services so adults can go make money and give it back to their employers! Did you not pay attention to what happened during the pandemic when we went to virtual learning. Parents couldn't wait to get their kids out of the house and back in the classroom.

[@georgeNconrad]

Admin is scared of parents. Parents are scared of the kids. And the kids aren’t scared of anyone. In my case, what put an end to my “bad” students and got them into alternative school was when they hurt other kids. I stopped putting myself between them and the others. Once I quit using my body as a human shield, the other kids ended up on the receiving end of the chair/pipe/stick. Admin let me get beat up but not the other kids.

[@christopherphillips6486]

I don't break up fights anymore. I'll just let them go at it and call the administration. That is their job, since they love to tell us what our job is.

[@chrisgast]

I'm not a teacher. If parents are too stupid to parent, then the poor innocent kids will end up taking the hits. Which pisses me off to the point where I will call the police on the retarded kids that want to fight. And I'll be happy to tell their parents off for being stupid pieces of shit.

[@sissyrayself7508]

Society is in crisis... This is just another sign of that

[@richardbowers3647]

The focus has been shifted to others problems too. The 3 Rs have been cast aside? I'm guessing?

[@tonypittsburgh9]

Solution: a 1 week boot camp where the problematic are made to understand their actions will have reprucussions even up to a physical response. Make them so miserable and make sure they understand that a teacher can send them back if needed.

[@channelmar15]

100 sociopaths posing as teachers for a week can accomplish that task in three days! We're the only ones willing to stand up to these liberal school policies.

[@ratherbfishing455]

Bootcamps can't punish the kids anymore, as they are protected by special ed and disability laws. It's sad.

[@briang.7206]

@@ratherbfishing455 Kids will egg you on just go ahead and hit me. Next day in school try complain to a,teacher and C.P.S. is knocking on your door.

[@ratherbfishing455]

Many are in special ed and protected by Federal laws.

[@Chippy88]

💯 true. I was a paraprofessional for 15 years. I just recently quit. The kids run the school and now it looks like you’re starting to run the country. People are afraid to report stuff. It’s absolutely disgusting.

[@ComfyChaos]

I’ve heard horror stories from a friend who is a para. She’s been bitten, scratched, kicked, punched, had her hair pulled, glasses ripped right from her face. Spat on. All by 4 and 5 year olds. The sheer violence and strength of the kids…unbelievable.

[@Chippy88]

@@ComfyChaos Yep. Even the main streamed kids have no social skills or respect. They get away with everything! Literally. No consequences.

[@josephfitzhenry245]

I taught for a year. First rule, do NOT touch a kid! Not even a fist bump or a high five. Absolutely hands off. Second, most of these kids simply will not listen. Not one bit. Its a disaster. And they know there will be no consequences.

[@lindamatus4429]

Yep

[@lorenhackney9981]

Yep!

[@ratherbfishing455]

I had a friend who had two kinder kids throw chairs and flip desks. The principal would not remove them after two months of documentation. Almost every day, she would evacuate the classroom.

[@catsinhouse]

One of my friends had a typewriter thrown at her head by a student twice her size. She quit.

[@ratherbfishing455]

@@catsinhouse It's sad that the parents are not ticketed. The kid also. There are a lot of unstable children and teens who will end up in jail, if the parents and kids don't have a come to Jesus meeting.

[@gailcarey3597]

My class size was 55 with one teacher. There was never violence or acting out. The reason? We had a family unit, consequences, and no technology. Security, boundaries, hard work, and fresh air meets all child needs.

[@mariekatherine5238]

It worked when I was in Catholic school in the late ‘40s through mid 1950’s. 50 kids in grade five and one sister. It was impossible to flip desks or chairs because they were bolted to the floor and to each other. The worst I remember is one boy repeatedly slamming his desktop down and muttering, “Hate this school.” Sister dragged him out of the room by his earlobe, I assume to Mother Superior, and we never saw him again. While she was gone, there was dead silence, and when Sr. came back, the lesson resumed as if nothing had happened. Next day his desk was empty and his name removed from the boys’ cloak room. A few days later, a new boy occupied his place. There were waiting lists for Catholic schools back then.

[@lindamatus4429]

I think she needs to define “trauma” for us and what %of ragers/non-compliants/chronic disruptors are suffering from “trauma”.

[@jefftube58]

The "trauma" thing is liberal speak for undisciplined, out of control animals.

[@joyhope9486]

most. Not taking trauma seriously is literally not taking mental health seriously. Which means you're currently part of the problem not the solution. but you don't have to remain that way. thank you for your contribution.

[@0just_a_no_one0]

@@jefftube58 LIBERAL SPEAK? LMAFOOOO

[@C.Church]

@@jefftube58 That's partially true but not entirely. Let's not ruin another opportunity to help people as people like you and SOME of the liberals did with ADHD. There really are kids and people who have these problems. Just because they've become annoying buzzwords for the bandwaggoners like "gluten free" doesn't mean there aren't people with trauma, ADHD and Celiac Disease. Just because half the internet is calling each other narcissist now doesn't mean there aren't narcissists. You're part of the problem. Hard political skeptics like you make it worse. Whenever scowling hateful people swing so far conservative, "equal and opposite reaction" happens. You have yourself to thank for it.

[@MondoBeno]

There's no story about a disruptive kid that can surprise me. Now it's worse thanks to the pandemic. I think part of the problem is that back in the day, a day at school was meant to turn the kid into a responsible adult, no matter the subject. Now we have this idea that school is meant to turn the kid into a scientific genius. We're not teaching in a way that teaches the kids patience.

[@lisamarie4966]

I see several reasons behind what is happening in the classroom: 1) parents aren't parenting anymore or raising kids with morals. 2) kids aren't learning how to socialize or deal with conflict in a natural way because of cell phones and video games 3) kids don't play anymore where they learned how to socialize and grow up mentally healthier 4) common core is very developmentally inappropriate and kids are being forced to learn the material and read passages that was in the past taught in high school. 5) kids dont do anything fun in school like we used to. No arts or crafts or Christmas plays allowed. In my school, we aren't allowed to celebrate any holidays.

[@kathytownsend4070]

School is not for fun all the time. kids have too much fun at home and have mom and dad hogtied

[@kathytownsend4070]

The parent is responsible to teach kids how to act at home. The parent in general is failing.

[@margiethomas8]

Exactly! And there is unrealistic expectations on kids.....recess is so short and cut in the day, class periods are to long, just a lot of reasons........and yes, Kathy I agree it is not for "fun" it is for education but there should still be opportunities for happiness in the day.......and those have been so blighted.

[@marclabrie6027]

@@kathytownsend4070 yeah no discipline

[@gregoryyorgey9142]

Finally a politician that understands

[@kratz57x]

WHY IS THIS AN EDUCATION PROBLEM?

[@christopherphillips6486]

Maybe people should start looking at the parents and stop using the schools to solve societal problems!

[@kristinakulberg8288]

I started teaching in the early 80's just after the Master Plan for Special Education came into effect. The Special Ed. model was what schools should have aimed for. Small class size with student-centered instruction. Instead we got people who did not want to teach telling teachers what and how to teach and more and more paperwork. I watched the ed system implode

[@msa9664]

I got kicked, hit, hit with heavy items, jump on, literally jumped from a chair into my chest. My ponytail was grabbed and my head was forcefully yanked back. Yeah, this is 1st grade BTW.

[@msa9664]

Oh, I forgot stabbed with a pen.

[@bennym5244]

Move kids to a trade skills environment so they use their hands. Teaching them Chaucer will not help them.

[@jefftube58]

Kids with trauma ? It's called people creating children who should never be parents and their offspring end up in public schools acting like animals. The comfortable way to talk about it is to say the children are dealing with this or that. The children are UNDISCIPLINED little animals.

[@TheClownVP]

When your class turns into the hood

[@kimberlyhicks3644]

You need to learn the class IS the hood, in miniature.

[@greenlight8819]

Just say you don’t like black people. Come out the closet, racist!

[@ValeriePendelton-h1o]

Nothing new this was all happening back in the 1970's when I was attending elementary school in Los Angeles! Kids throwing chairs = yes, Kids being vulgar & sexually aggressive = yes, kids school lunches being stolen by hungry kids who weren't being fed at home = yes, physical aggression = yes, threats = yes, extortion = that means: 'You bring me one dollar? or I beat you up! Yes all of that I experianced & nothing was done. I now have PTSD, unemployed & getting therapy. Great foundation for an education Thanks LAUSD!

[@johnnyboyvan]

Lock those crazy 🤪 kids up. Insane. Nobody will go into teaching.

[@cmonster67]

So it's called trauma now huh?

[@arpadzigisfari5819]

We need fathers in the home.

[@dtarrbiz2]

A kid Put in room by himself for disruption is not abuse in any real definition of the word. This would help a lot a padded room so he or she cannot tear anything up They get out when they have calmed down and go back it act up like that again. we need more masculine male admins in education and a return to disciplining and isolating for violent behaviour

[@sportshistorybuff319]

It is nauseating listening to this public official, however good her intentions, parroting the same bleeding heart diarrhea that the educational establishment created in the first place. Yes, a minority of these students have some evidence of psychological trauma. The overwhelming majority, however, are largely, if not completely, poorly raised brats who have never heard the word No at home. It's drearily predictable how educational policy, no matter how sensible and balanced, consistently reaches the classroom in the most cowardly, self-defeating form. Somewhere between the Board and the grassroots level, a game of telephone is played, whereby superintendents, principals, vice-principals neuter the ability of teachers to actually maintain order and protect students. The end result almost always seems steered toward handcuffing teachers, giving only lip service to rights of victimized students and shielding the miscreant student from any real consequences. This bureaucrat (?) is only advocating for more money to be spent on mental health support, a psychologist in every classroom, which is unaffordable. She doesn't once touch on greater firmness or strictness for those students acting out because they're overindulged piglets. She doesn't even acknowledge such wilful punks exist. This kind of chaos in the classroom exacts a huge price on American schools every day, a price only favored by the delusional or cynical Left who actively want American society to collapse, to be replaced by whatever utopia they are peddling.

[@THomasJPeel]

FYI for this this representative - Florida set class size limits in the constitution. Smaller is better!

[@THomasJPeel]

Excellent video!

[@BinoDist]

Why are there so many kids in crisis these days? Why are there so many 'traumatic instances' these days? Is the trauma these days worse than it was 50 years ago? DId the children who survived World War II suffer from trauma? What's going on nowadays?

[@kaivrock]

They need their own sepeate building and “staff” holding all of them from k-12. Well adjusted and eager students don’t need their sh#it. I’ve been in schools for 16 years and there’s no reason for them to mix.

[@darrengreen9273]

These kids come from single mother households that have not been taught at home. I bet it's mainly inner city schools. Put these disruptive kids in a separate building with arm guards. These children are a reflection of the dysfunctional homes they come from. We are punishing good kids because of the bad.

[@marblesthecat3861]

It comes down to fathers being in their children's lives and disciplining children when they need it. Fatherless homes are the major reason why this is happening.

[@timbrown5576]

Every school should have a time out room with padded walls so they could "act out". Trust me, once they see that there is nothing in the room to destroy and they are not getting any attention from the other students and staff, they will calm down.

[@briank8697]

Combat arms veterans should be teachers, prior 18 series boys and rangers. MARSOC people, raiders, they baddest of the bad

[@norman6694]

Stupid idea

[@briank8697]

@@norman6694 why is it dumb idea? These people are disciplined are knowledgeable. SF personnel and drill instructors are the greatest trainers in the world, why would you not want these people training these savages?

[@coomdoon]

@@briank8697 i tried doing discipline in school. The admin will not back you up. The kids will lie and try to have you fired, their parents will complain to the admin and try to have you fired. You will be fired immediately.

[@briank8697]

@@coomdoon CCTV is a hell of a source of evidence

[@sarakesten5352]

Where there any consequences for kid who threw the chair?

[@blugreen123]

Doubt it

[@sarakesten5352]

@@blugreen123 Wow!

[@austinballard6815]

that behavior comes from bad parenting and a lack of discipline. Lets call it what it is....

[@adriansteele4783]

Oh FFS, not all misbehaviour is a result of trauma. What we have is a generation of narcisstic children resulting from permissive parenting and school policies. My mother and her refeugee friends were born in Central Europe in the middle of World War 2. They are some of the most traumatised people you could ever meet. They were 10 times more traumatised than most of today's children, yet there was a clear expectation that teachers were to be treated with respect, and there were serious consequences for misbehaving. If policy makers want to really be trauma-informed, perhaps they could go and talk to some adults who grew up with very real trauma (like growing up in a war zone) and find out they managed behave in spite of their profound trauma. This infantilisation and molly coddling needs to stop.

[@DaveWard-xc7vd]

Give em food stamps. Give em public housing. Then make excuses for them when they show up for class and won't cooperate. Enough is enough. Send them to boarding school.

[@lisamarie4966]

We don't get "a lot of deescalation training."

[@mariekatherine5238]

Lisa Marie I have plenty of training in de-escalation, also, first aid, administration of medications, and how to handle mental health crises including use of restraining holds and devices. The problem was having no support whatsoever. The school lacked an in-house nurse, a psychologist, not even a guidance counselor. With 30+ in one class and say, three children having conduct issues, I was supposed to clear the room of 27 7-8 year old children, supervise them while finding a fellow classroom teacher on her, er, “break,” have her take over leaving me to deal to stop WW3 in the classroom. If the teacher on break could not be located, or, there was no break for anyone, first or last periods, then the nearest teacher also had to clear her room into the hall, supervise both classes while I tried to calm down the three. My solution was to resign. I could not endure a sixth year under those conditions.

[@kimberlyhicks3644]

@@mariekatherine5238 Sounds familiar.

[@richardbowers3647]

How big is big? There's nothing that shows or gauges how much education the graduating student receives! Diploma you say? Get real!

[@ratherbfishing455]

Bring back the paddle!

[@zadinal]

Misinterpretation of the law? That is your fault last. You can't interpret a law, you have to follow the letter of it.

[@RUBBERNUGG3T]

im sorry what is going on in OR???

[@catzenhouse]

"What is going on" is going on Everywhere. Not just in the U.S., either.

[@shanehester5317]

I bet many of these kids come from single mother housholds.

[@kennethgibson288]

Most likely

[@clarissagafoor5222]

I am a single mother, raised by a single mother until she remarried, and my two sons were never like this, so no, it's about how children are raised not by who!

[@katherinedorton4562]

being a single parent has nothing to do with this. this is just lack of parenting, social services telling you you cant correct your kid because everything is abuse to them. some kids are better off in single parent homes. a women can raise a child just fine. whoever came up with this oh they need a man shit needs to shut their mouths. alot of fathers are the problem, saying they dont want a teacher telling their kid what to do ect. go look at most single mother homes. you'll find most of the problem kids come from two parent homes. ive worked with kids for years and almost always they are from two parent homes.

[@kennethgibson288]

@@katherinedorton4562 You are delusional if you believe that women can rear boys into manhood.

[@katherinedorton4562]

@@kennethgibson288 I've worked with at risk children with emotional problems, ect. they are almost always from two parent homes and the dad is where the issues originate from. especially with boys and their fathers telling them a women/ teacher isnt going to tell them what to do and that the teacher has to respect the son but the son not show any respect. most boys from single mother homes behave just fine. I've seen women who are pushovers to their husbands and wont do anything to correct the kid because the dad will get mad. go ask any teacher and they'll tell you it's fathers who scream and berate them when they try to talk to them about juniors behavior. I had a 6 year old several years ago who would forcibly try to kiss girls in his class. if he didnt get his way he would slap, bite, pull hair and sling them to the ground. his mother was helpless because he showed her no respect. when the father was asked to come in he said yeah just let him do it or he will get mad. he had no respect for anyone and went on to say that we were glorified baby sitters who were to bow down to his son. needless to say the mom was given a choice to take the kid, leave and get counseling or let the kid go into foster care. she left and the dad became a huge issue regarding harrassment. and some mothers arent single by choice , some are widows ect. it doesnt matter how they became single. it's not who raises a child , it's how. they do not need a father figure to succeed. I was raised by my grandmother, I graduated high school early with honors, went to college and got my bachelor's degrees. i turned out just fine and so do most kids raised by single parents. I noticed your ignorant self didnt say anything about single fathers...stop being so sexist.....

[@MIRAISHOME000]

Teachers are not their students parents!!!!!🎈😅🤮🤮🕯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪😋

[@susannaalam8849]

How about strengthening the family by providing a one parent working so the other parent can stay home to raise the kids. GODS plan is the best plan and put prayer back in school

[@zanir2387]

Depends: in europe both parents work but you don't heard of this kind of behavior.

[@pedinurse1]

all that psychobabble talk is part of the problem cause no one knows what the hell you are talking about, if kids come to school without being fed or they have no secure home, they need to be fostered, make it worth people's while to take these students under their wing, the school cannot and should not try to solve all problems,send some to reform schools, some to jail, have school court sessions, where they are held liable, if the parents is not doing anything to elp a childs social and psych problems, hold them liable and or foster them untill that child is stable. Im sorry but the vocabulary used now is so vague and nondescriptive, lets start saying what we really mean for heavens sake. Do not allow teachers to pay for any supplies, we are taxed enough. Enough said for now

[@seaschulainn]

Have you tried using gender neutral pronouns for all the kids? Maybe give out more participation trophies?

[@KrustyKlown]

A second grader threw a chair through a window ... AND a teacher watched it happen, OR wasn't watching, OR didn't care ... responsibility ALWAYS goes to the adult .. i.e. Teacher. If ya let kids do bad shit, bad shit happens ... and you are a shity teacher.

[@norman6694]

What was the teacher supposed to do, you can't touch the child

[@KrustyKlown]

@@norman6694 LOL .. you can touch a child, but you can't assault them .. there is a difference.

[@KrustyKlown]

@@norman6694 you probably shouldn't be a teacher or a parent.

[@norman6694]

@@KrustyKlownyou should learn how to deal with reality

[@KrustyKlown]

@@norman6694 and the reality is you probably shouldn't be a teacher or a parent .. because when a kid is about to throw a chair through the window, it's time to touch that child, immediately .. instead of just watching it happen and then expelling the kid.

[@wuhantuna6088]

This is why women should not be in charge....of anything

[@Melly16yr10]

Sexist 😡

[@ashleyhardy4766]

Let me guess your single?

[@crisalida_ASMR.]

This is a product of female politics in fact. Everything was ok before their iruption in public life.

[@zanir2387]

Tipical morón, there aré women More capable than many men...