The Full Story of All Crashed Flights in Fallout 4

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[@thewanderer5506]

Since when do planes run on nuculear reactors???? *realizes everything in the FO universe runs on nuculear power Oh, right

[@bukasb]

You never know it could be reality with Atomic Power.

[@thesturm8686]

@@bukasb could be, but some nations might refuse other nations aircraft with radioactive material land or fly in their territory

[@ihavenocreativity2666]

Wait. If everything runs on nuclear energy, why is there a very high demand for oil?

[@jexiagalleta4712]

@@thesturm8686 New Zealand for one

[@WoodysAR]

What? The planes are down, because Nuclear bombs cause an EMP (electro magnetic pulse) this messes up a planes electrical and computer systems, and it crashes,. No nuclear power in any of these planes hello... (unless 2 futurey ones have it)

[@slightlyinsane8324]

The glowing sea without nuclear fog looks like fallout new vegas

[@jameston2676]

Slightly Insane Agreed

[@SoggyNugh]

Ikr

[@sammylammy996]

Its kinda concerning how thats right

[@davidknowles2491]

Patrolling it would make you wish for a nuclear winter.

[@bobskywalker2707]

@SoldierAtWar01 you poor poor child

[@ErebusXanti]

I find it funny how flight 1981's smuggling manifest says the goods came from Chicago, at least we know Chicago is rotten as hell in this game's world.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

ErebusXanti, wasn't Chicago featured in fallout tactics.

[@AvoxionYT]

@@blacklightblade6205 Dude did you just doxx yourself

[@DividedByZeero]

@@blacklightblade6205 alright if something happens to your home or yourself don’t blame it on anybody

[@carceena7901]

@@AvoxionYT I’m guessing some idiot doxed himself and then deleted the comment? LMAO

[@danturtle381]

Weren't we in Chicago in Fallout 1, 2 and new Vegas?

[@Davanthall]

There’s at least one you missed, I found one of those stingrays on a highway overpass, a little north west of the bunker hill area. And that one actually looked pretty undamaged, it was just sitting on the highway, surrounded by cars.

[@gage2189]

When you get pulled over for going Mach 3 in a school zone

[@HorizonSniper__]

@@gage2189 lol nice one. I found my first Stingray near Fort-strong. Second one I actually noticed was the Arkjet's one.

[@rookieODST4450]

@@gage2189 Officer I swear I was only going Mach two!

[@chili_420_2]

Maybe it tried to land on the high way as a last resort

[@starwarsknowledge2017]

@@chili_420_2 some planes do that irl like the Griphon so thats likely

[@makinglegends1329]

wouldn't it be cool if we could find a holotape of someone rushing somewhere safe before the bombs drop and than them walking outside afterwards and get there reaction

[@jackjarvis9738]

Fallout 3 had one, in Little Lamplight.

[@hund7458]

Other than the fact that there was the, you know, 210 year gap.

[@alexmontgomery1176]

making legends There are some ghouls that tell you and their are holotapes

[@edgarmolina4497]

The lone wonderer

[@mayhare9754]

Wouldn't they immediately fry from the radiation, though? Cause there's a 210 year gap between the bombs dropping and outside being safe enough.

[@HalfTrueGamerTag]

I love how in the hidden compartment there's just "$2500 cash." The USD was supposed to be hyperinflated in the Fallout world. A stack of pre-war money is a $10,000 stack of bills which someone estimated inflation to be 2800% compared to today due to the price of the Capitol Post in Fallout 3 being $56 compared to what you'd probably expect to pay today for a newspaper, which is around $2. Meaning they were smuggling the equivalent of approximately $80 USD. Totally worth putting in all the effort of smuggling.

[@madcourier6217]

@Willz __ Oh god, imagine living in California in the Fallout universe, I wouldn't wanna mess with that shit...

[@a1burrit042]

MadCourier 6 dont we get part of california in NV?

[@youmukonpaku3168]

@@a1burrit042 so quickly the first two games are forgotten.

[@Pusfilth]

True Nugget schhhhhhhh

[@justahyundai]

Makes absolutely no sense that bethesda was this inconsistent knowing in places like hallucigen they seemed to take inflation into account

[@durandol]

I wish we could have fixed up any of the old world tech in these games. I just can't stand to see all these old broken machines left to rust and rot. Plus, I want to drive around in a salvaged tank ala Fallout Tactics.

[@sir_potoo]

Engine limitations.

[@holdenfan8532]

I jsut wish there was a pre war area with everything tidy and original.

[@Bergen98]

You know you could do JUST that in Fallout 2? Drive the car and then sail an actual Oil Tanker. Why nothing like that in F3;NV or 4? Because engine is so old, it would literally break the game

[@logoword]

Yeah modders can do it granted its not perfect but its pretty good. If they would add it should have some sort of mini game to fix the vehicle and to balance it could require rare materials In DayZ you can fix cars and buses so it can't be that hard

[@itsclemtime2357]

Fallout 2 Chysuilus Highywaymen

[@arierickson6137]

Kind of an interesting fact about aircraft and EMP is that the russian Mikoyan Gurevich MIG-25 Foxbat had most of its internal electronics encased in Vacuum tubes so in the event of a thermonuclear detonation the plane would be unaffected by the resulting EMP.

[@classifiedad1]

Ari Erickson I thought they used vacuum tubes because Soviet transistor technology was not mature enough?

[@twistedyogert]

@@classifiedad1 Thats what I heard, as well.

[@HorizonSniper__]

bomb: bum. me: *laughs in protected*

[@colton2680]

@@HorizonSniper__ bum

[@-DeScruff]

Its funny how without the engines how quickly these aircraft fell. It kinda tells how aerodynamic these things were that they couldn't "glide" that far. (or at least I'm getting that impression) Ive always noted how in this world, efficiency wasn't the answer as much as "Can we put a bigger engine in it?".

[@Triaxx2]

There's a saying, you can make a brick fly if you put a big enough engine on it.

[@-DeScruff]

Yep thats exactly what I was thinking!

[@Kiyoko504]

When you lose stabilization in one wing and are unable to pull the flaps for both it send the plain into a spin, but while pull on flap could help a bit, you won't Ever have a clean landing.

[@nogoodusername25]

well, modern jet fighters are just like bricks when the engines cut out mid air. The reason for this is weighing the options, like better glide or agility when maneuvering mid air. Although I understand your standpoint, a passenger liner like this probably have similar capabilities to the Concord or Tupolev-144. The shape of those hulls are also "bricks" when the engines cut out.

[@Gunnar_Konig]

Losing all engines on one side (and that thing seems to have 10 engines total in 2 clusters) is killer for most aircraft, especially powerful ones. You'd have to cut power to the surviving engines but at that point you might not have enough lift to keep the nose up and if you took too long to do that, the imbalance would cause either a flatspin or a spiral downward. Plus pilot error due to panic is likely. Typically the planes that can function with half the engines are 2 engined planes with the nacelles very close to the fuselage and even then landing is a bastard. As for the others it's hard to say without knowing just how much their relied on electronics that the EMP would known down, but I'm guessing quite a lot.

[@mynameiswyatt7828]

with Skylanes 1981, if you take Nick Valentine with you, he tells you how it crashes by saying "The bombs didn't bring this plane down, it was the highway."

[@Simply_Samps]

That Other Guy .I guess that the nuke gave them sight effects which made them collide into the highway resulting the highway to be broken and the plane well smashed.

[@friendlyfire2615]

According the the blackbox, the EMP from the nuke killed the engines, so they tried to land on the highway, but, instead, it ended up how you see it now.

[@cielopachirisu929]

As a pilot, I appreciate the detail they put into that radio calls. Most of it was pretty good, I'm pleasantly surprised :D.

[@justahyundai]

Im disappointed tbh, the planes don't even look stable but the comms have to be near textbook

[@scottishguy8148]

200 years and emps and nuke do that carpet.

[@kyleminks6374]

Cielo Pachirisu runway “left” 💀

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

Cielo Pachirisu agreed. Even the ATC is very well done: the nuke dropped and she kept calm. At least, mostly calm, compared to the average Joe.

[@twistedyogert]

@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial Might be a computer in 2077.

[@genevievew.5837]

whenever I play Fallout I always think back to ox's videos like he's some sort of omniscient being

[@Nathanallenpinard]

Presumably the planes were nuke powered which would've made the engines electric, not fuel based. So an EMP would actually probably disrupt the electrics of the engine despite the nuclear power not being effected. That first wreck didn't see the blast probably because it wasn't faced that direction, not to mention their altitude would've had an effect. Plus I believe the other plane was in the process of landing. The other factor is not just the EMP, but the shockwave. Which may have caused the planes to break up AS they were falling, making it harder to find all the pieces.

[@samalbury9183]

In the 50s, there were experiments with nuclear aircraft. They had air flowing through the reactor where it heated up and expanded. The increase in volume forced the air out the back, propelling the plane. I'm guessing that these planes used similar tech as that program

[@twistedyogert]

@@samalbury9183 But doesn't Fallout use fusion?

[@lancepharker]

@@twistedyogert Fusion was pretty new in the universe, so had not made its way into civilian tech yet.

[@twistedyogert]

@@lancepharker That explains why some cars used fission but others ran on fusion-cells.

[@samalbury9183]

@@twistedyogert a similar idea could probably work with fusion

[@AaronAlso]

OMG, I'm seeing the jet liner model for the first time, and feel an uncontrollable desire to build it in Kerbal Space Program.

[@luckcity2310]

I don’t think it would fly

[@azwanajeeb2167]

Hey did you think this airplane more like a stealth bomber rather than domestic airplane

[@chasehunter3741]

Uh oh it’s a big brain

[@joshdeighton8636]

Everything in kerbal flys

[@HorizonSniper__]

yes I am goin do dat.

[@m.anthonyc.8761]

Actually the EMP Shockwave from the nuclear blast didn't just knock out the navigation systems on the airplanes, it took out all of the electronics and shorted them out. That's what a electromagnetic pulse Shockwave does.

[@fahrradsattel3035]

Yeah it generally fucks up all the electronics in its radius... so it dissconnects u from a perfect tf2 match and then you vaporize.

[@SLAD3]

@@fahrradsattel3035 from the nuke or from being disconnected?

[@ElValuador]

@@SLAD3 Depends on if you have nerd rage equipped.

[@_LocalGhost_]

Not true, transistor based tech yes, vacuum tubes are a different story, the USSR used planes with vacuum tubes in them instead of transistors long after the U.S. started using transistors specifically for that reason. The Fallout universe is based around vacuum tube technology, transistors never took off.

[@tomaszkietyka2325]

this immidietly reminds me of the plane scene in Metro: Last Light, they reached Moscow just as the bombs fell, those were just families come home from vacation, it really shows the despair: Pilot: What the hell was that?! Co-Pilot: Shit! we're losing power! Pilot: Domodedovo tower! Flight 76715 here! Mayday! Mayday! Co-Pilot: Tolya! We're going down! *multiple nukes falling down and launching from the silos* Co-Pilot: Oh my God! Shit, shit, what's going on here?! Pilot: Give me a hand here! Co-Pilot AAAAAAAA! I DON'T WANT TO DIE! Pilot: Come on! get a hold of your self! Co-Pilot: Come on! Come on! Right engine stopping! We're going down! *debris smashing through the windows of the plane* Co-Pilot AAAAAAAA! I DON'T WANT TO DIE!

[@martinezanthony9282]

that was a great game

[@wrengaming1519]

honestly that was one of the sadder stories in that game

[@mikoto7693]

I suppose the one slightl silver lining is that those pilots were flying. Right up until those few terrible last moments they were doing what they loved. But I try to console myself with that thought for all crashes. A pilot is almost like they were born to fly. For most of us the sky is the limit, but for them the sky is their home.

[@Dylan_Otto]

am I the only one getting shivers down my back listening to the black box recordings?

[@ryman1933]

Yes

[@thesturm8686]

I probably would if i wasn't being chased around by things with sole intention to kill me

[@connormclernon26]

Back2FutureFan6 I listen to those occasionally when learning about accidents

[@BatMaam7585]

Yep.

[@mikoto7693]

No you’re not the only one. Though for me it’s mixed with a sense of sad regret at the fate of those unfortunate pilots.

[@1interesting2]

The quality of the content you produce is consistently high.

[@UnholyTingz]

TheEndsOfInvention TheGreyArea agreed

[@razinabbas4551]

Did anyone think of Metro Last Light's plane scene during this video?

[@fahrradsattel3035]

Yep

[@frej7422]

i remember a while back i was just wandering around the swamps by the highway around the bottom of the map, when all of a sudden i saw one of those stingray planes, with mostly the top parts sticking out of the highway bridge. (this was on ground level btw)

[@crystalsoulslayer]

6:35 It's the same flight, and the recordings don't conflict. A lot of people know that a nuclear blast generates an EMP, and know that it would knock out electronics. This happens because an EMP actually generates a current as it passes through electronic systems because of a rapidly-alternating magnetic field. Electronics are delicate enough that a relatively minor EMP could fry them really easily, even at considerable distance from the blast. But that effect is going to occur in any electrical circuit, including generators. If the EMP is minor and the generator can withstand the current, it's fine. But if the EMP is major, which the ones from nuclear detonations are, it generates pretty considerable voltage spikes; a naturally-occurring EMP produced by a solar storm in 1859 fried telegraph systems throughout America and Europe. (It also caused auroras to appear all over the world. In case you're wondering: yeah, that could happen again, and in fact almost did in 2012, but missed us. Yes, it would do unbelievable damage and probably end civilization as we know it. No, we would not be able to do shit about it.) That voltage spike would be enough to wreck a lot of bigger generators, and probably enough to set fire to smaller ones -- like the one in a jet turbine. Especially if it's running, as it'll be dealing with its operating voltage already. So: the flight is heading toward Boston Airport. Pilot A is on the line to Air Traffic Control, and Pilot B is talking through their heading information and such for the flight data recorder. The nuke goes off, and produces that famous ridiculously-bright flash of light -- the same one from the intro sequence, by the way. The pilots saw it, too; Pilot B says "What the hell?" and Pilot A gets off the line with Control for a moment. The EMP travels along with it, causing a voltage spike in both engines. The left engine catches fire, which Pilot A reports to Control. The pilots try to recover, but there's no power to either engine; the right engine might not be on fire, but it was fried all the same. The instant the bomb fell, their fate was sealed. So the flight was brought down by engine failure, but the failure was caused by the EMP from the blast. I'd wager a lot of aircraft in the Fallout universe were brought down in exactly this way.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Crystal Soulslayer, well thought out explanation, makes perfect sense, I feel sad about all those planes heading to new York or Boston from the Atlantic Ocean and then falling as the EMP'S knock them down, so many innocent people now at the bottom of the ocean. 😳

[@ryman1933]

@@dragonbornexpress5650 It's not really that sad.

[@sammylammy996]

I know im stupid but whats an aurora

[@thesturm8686]

@@sammylammy996 northern lights

[@oregonrailfan7046]

Then why is it that one of the pilots says runaway 1-8 left and the other says 2

[@michellealinateague9892]

I got the time table up on the crash in the glowing see. At their given altitude, they may have seen the glowing flash from the New York, Philadelphia, of DC bombs. As well, the flight recorder was in the cockpit, but the radio equipment was further back. This may mean that the tower which recieved the mayday signal was talking to the radio operator, and not the pilot

[@oxhorn]

That's a good point!

[@cappecfh]

The pilots probably just saw the explosion in the corner of their eye which is why they exclaimed they saw a bright light but they did not know what it was. Then the nuclear blast destroyed most electrical equipment in the blast radius which is why they later said they had engine problems. The bomb caused the engine to fail.

[@FloodExterminator]

cappecfh that would be impossible because the EMP blast from the bomb would have fried the electronics in the plane as well the engine so they would not have been able to contact the airport

[@lizzy4514]

"This one is probably my favourite of the crashed ships" I never knew boats could fly

[@generalvic8250]

ships doesn't mean just boats, have you honestly never heard of airships and spaceships?

[@someoneprobably1016]

Never visited to us constitution?

[@lizzy4514]

@@generalvic8250 I know it's another word for things like that indeed, but i have never heard anyone calling an aircraft a "ship". To me that sounds like something completely else.

[@mikoto7693]

Actually the funny thing is that many of the first ever aircraft to carry passengers were designed to float and land on water initially I think. I think it’s in the history of pan am. I think it’s this partially marine history that is shown in modern pilot uniforms. Evolved from sailor uniforms.

[@HailGalvatron500]

There's a crashed sting Ray jet on top of the highway bridges

[@Forgottenpoop643]

Ik it's been 3 yrs but I found one too! You can find it on an island between Salem and Crater house

[@populatethemoon]

13:13 Horizon probably purchased some aircrafts from Skylines before the war, and until they could apply their own logo, had to just put a stick on decal.

[@SwedishEmpire1700]

...or Bethsda simply didnt bother to make the textures for them, like the empty cockpits.

[@NCRranger24]

Luzur this is almost certainly what it is

[@simpsonfan13]

Or most likely (lore wise) one was a subsidiary of the other. Like American Airlines with American Eagle.

[@kewlnick14]

It's funny because the real Horizon Airlines on the west coast is a part of Alaska Air Group. Many of the planes that Horizon Airline flies has the Alaskan Airlines logo on them.

[@Rickyrab]

Nick Kostenko good point

[@noahcheckman8542]

It's possible that the reason for the conflicting reports is because Flight 1665 collided with another jetliner.

[@LordWeems]

Well, if anyone remembers from the beginning of the game, there was a shockwave. So along with the EMP blast, there was a shockwave that knocked the rather *fragile* planes around, or it completely forced them out of the air. Or, if you're unlucky, you're too close to the bomb...

[@mohdoesstuff6700]

Theres also a rocket engine in a forest, i found it one day and i activated it using the terminal next to it, lets just say, you'll see what happens when you find it

[@lordbanetheplayer8844]

Thanks for not spoiling it!

[@fahrradsattel3035]

Oooh nice. What forest exactly?

[@legobuilder8998]

@@fahrradsattel3035 on the way to kellog

[@GokuBlackRose978]

Nice I played with it, sadly it exploded,

[@SoshoKozadokaGojiraChargedUp]

"Oh coo-" *BOOM*

[@0311Mushroom]

Here is my big question. Transistors were new at the time of the war, this is why most everything ran on vacuum tubes. But tubes (like almost all pre-transistor/microchip technology) is immune to EMP.

[@grahamlopez6202]

..... theres a reason you've gotten no reply for 2 years. You just broke the whole game. All of it. Everything should still work, and you pointed that out

[@caav56]

Actually, while vacuum tubes are *resistant* to EMP, they are not *immune* to it. Besides, even vacuum tube-based logic schemes have quite a lot of non-vacuum tube components, which can be fried by EMP (transformers, for instance).

[@gardnorman9047]

Aviation is all about weight and space, transistors weigh less and use less space than tubes, so if the jetliner was designed after the transistor, there wouldve been transistors and not tubes in the electronics.

[@dancingcarapace]

I think Oxhorn is using the wrong terminology. It wasn't an EMP blast that would've took down the flights. It would have been the resulting shock wave from the detonation, the one we see coming towards us from Cambridge at the very beginning of the game.

[@rolandyamel6376]

Most of today's aircraft have solid-state electronics that make jets almost impossible to knock out with an emp otherwise if you wanted to take out a world power all you need do is load an EMP weapon on a fake satellite and set it off over the country you want to go bye-bye then hang out for a year and 95% of the population will be dead from various causes. Way too easy.

[@vincentmccloskey-ooi9014]

You sound like a younger Tom Hanks

[@lalnablehector1285]

thats what i was thinking the entire time xD

[@matthewnash4953]

Almost sounds like Kevin from Vsauce 2 to me...

[@ggplex2928]

Vincent McCloskey sounds like gamerfrommars

[@John-vo6sf]

Vincent McCloskey yes! was just thinking that!

[@indigosumo]

Vincent McCloskey he sounds like melikebigboom

[@dazedandconfused5304]

2:39 hey Liberty Prime!

[@TreacherousFennec]

I think the difference between tail name and flight name indicates a Codeshare agreement between Skylanes and HorizonAir. Operator uses their name in flight number, on ticket etc while the plane actually belongs to the original owner. Like how KLM flies you on Air France, United Airlines shares Turkish Airlines planes for European interlinear transfers.

[@NoName-gp8ve]

if you bring nick to flight 1981, he talks about the plane, who it hit the highway trying to land

[@oxhorn]

Really? Cool, I will have to bring him there

[@hiddengnome]

That is weird though, because from the lay of the land and the fuselage/wings being in such close proximity, it looks more like it fell straight down (the wings would have been ripped up more, or have the tips point forward or backward, depending on which part hit the ground first, if it was traveling forwards) and it being belly down makes no sense either, as flying wings without control authority would start spinning along the wing axis, due to the center of mass and center of lift being apart from eachother. Alas, the simple answer is: game logic

[@paladinrockwell1908]

no not just game logic but BETHESDA logic as well

[@ThreeDog69420]

@@oxhorntheres an intact stingray on an overpass west of lexington and north of bunker hill.

[@justinlee1237]

Hey oxhorn, the blinking light is a Navigation light, it's used so that other airliners know how big your aircraft is in the dark.

[@Vaultytheman]

There’s one of them sting rays on a highway

[@youjustreadthis897]

9:13 - Skylines Flight 1981: There is a hidden compartment behind the cockpit which not many people know about and is not shown in this video... Imagine the fuselage has 3 floors. You can easily access the bottom floor, middle floor, and the top floor where the cockpit is using the stairs. However the cockpit floor actually has two compartments. To reach the hidden compartment, using the rock face to the right, jump onto the roof of the plane fuselage and then drop into the plane through one of the square cut outs on the roof (cut out furthest away from the plane's nose). There you will find loads of loot, I found 4 fusion cores there when playing 'Hard' difficulty. The hidden compartment can be seen at 12:03 at the top of the screen Edit: Since then I only play on 'Very Hard' and realised every few hundred or so container loot pick ups I still get 4 Fusion Cores. I found out recently this is because of the 'Scrounger' perk

[@burgerpantsjohnson2929]

Thanks for that I got a little ammo and a fusion core from that, appreciated and to make it easier I used one of the Chems to slow time

[@youjustreadthis897]

@@burgerpantsjohnson2929 You're welcome :)

[@UltimateGamerCC]

@@youjustreadthis897 i will have to keep my eye on Scrounger and try to resist looting before then, More Ammo and More Cores sound great.

[@youjustreadthis897]

@@UltimateGamerCC It's great, I would recommend getting it ASAP. Especially as you progress you will tend to use automatic weapons more and will come across harder enemies often. I'm level 56 and still on stage 1 (one star) on Scrounger. Might level up the perk again at next level to see if I get even more Fusion Cores

[@PrimeBizzef]

The Stingray kinda looks like like a mix up between two of the Nazi jet aircraft, the Ho 229 and the Me 262

[@nonautemrexchristus5637]

UncleSam German*

[@timber_wulf5775]

General Rommel Luftwaffe*

[@choogus5071]

The Ho 229 and Me 262? HoMe? Home?

[@bukasb]

Thats what I Said!!!!!

[@Pintroll300]

This has got me thinking; what happened to all the cross-country flights when the nukes hit? Many of them would be far from any military sites or population centers, so what happened to them after the bombs? Did they try to land in the smoldering ruins that had replaced all the airports?

[@arcticwolf8313]

Pintroll300 they were probably forced to crash land and the state of the world would mean anyone who survived probably died with the exceptions of flights going to areas that weren't targeted during the Great War of 2077, which would have landed safely. Depending on where any given flight between Europe, Russia, Southeast Asia, the US and Canada was located during the bombardment, some of them may have been able to divert to safer locations. But this would be rare. Small planes flying over less populated areas with smaller airports would probably have been able to land safely. Unfortunately for those in larger passenger planes, larger airports with enough runway to land these planes are typically located in larger cities with higher population densities that would be targeted by enemy nukes. Any airport landing or taking off in these areas or anywhere within a few miles spherical radius of the blasts would be brought down immediately. The survivability would depend on a variety of factors. At tens of millions of degrees, anyone within a a couple to several thousand feet will be vaporized along with the aircraft surrounding them. those further away but still within a few miles radius would be knocked down by shockwave. In the outer edge of the radius of the danger zone it is possible that affected aircraft can regain control if the pilots are skilled enough. But these pilots would have to contend with the radiation messing with the instruments. Those over the ocean won't be as badly affected, BUT they would be left with no communications with air traffic control, which will and the instruments will be affected by gamma rays if they are going to affected areas. flights over the oceans could be unaware of what's going on though so may fail to divert to safer locations.

[@hi14993]

considering that interstate highways are designed for the secondary purpose of providing emergency runways, its likely that many could have landed safely

[@TheAngrySaxon1]

No airports, no runways, and nowhere really safe to land. A nightmare scenario for those aboard!

[@peytonmac1131]

I think atomic weapons would blast significant amounts of dust into the sky, which may clog up the engines and force many of them down. Or the shockwave, depending on distance from the blast.

[@LiamTheLegend]

What about the EMP wave which disables anything electric>>

[@csweezey18]

So I had a sudden urge to look up when the movie "Airplane" came out. As it turns out, in 1980. As in, the number before 1981. As in Skylanes Flight 1981. Coincidence? I think not.

[@colejosephalexanderkashay683]

Could be a subtle reference

[@ashmalachai1934]

There is a Stingray jet on the overpass near Carvaga assembly plant.

[@ShadowAxon]

Hay for the glowing sea flight, the EMP would cause engine failure. So both parts line up. My guess is the plane was hit by the EMP, and its engines started to fail, and the tower tried to get them to land after the bomb went off. Perhaps the plane was far enough away at the time that the EMP only partly damaged the electronics so they slowly failed instead of compleatly failing.

[@seanmatthews4215]

If the Minutemen had jets, They would have way to much. Artillery, flares AND settlements. The vertibirds are what make the brotherhood worth joining in terms of gear.

[@joshuak7236]

The Reaper Artillery and Vertibirds*

[@lewisbishop2998]

The Profanitizer after you defeat the BOS with the Minutemen you get vertibirds for the minutemen

[@pepijn23]

2:17 the model kind of looks like a miniature model jetwhich would be cool if you could find it on shelf or workbench in a pre war home or office. Also, about the different names on the planes, maybe Skylane used false markings or names on their jets to misguide authorities about their smuggling business.

[@eviltobias]

No one: ATC: «rEqUEsT eMerGeNCy lAnDInG»

[@ITR933]

I love how the pilot's casually talking on frequency "Okay let's put it out" "Shit" And then you have the dumbest controller in the history of aviation Damn it bethesda

[@Feiora]

Ox, the crater house crash was actually carrying a radioactive cargo, that blue box has radiation symbol on it...

[@TsarOfLeFoogs]

Nice find!

[@Kiyoko504]

For Flight 1665, when the Nuke hit the shock wave hit the plain a sit was headed North which causes destabilization on the left engine, with the engines Nuclear Core at critical it burst taring the wing. The plain than grounded just after the final Mayday call. Once the front of the fuselage was in the dirt the tail end spun out taring the rest of the aircraft apart.

[@noahs.91]

You missed the stingray jet on the skybridge.

[@mutant_darktide]

There is a stingray crashed on a highway somewhere, I remember walking across a gap in the highway and jumping onto the stingray.

[@keethpoop9797]

With Skylanes Flight 1981, Ness, a character found in the commomwealth , gives you a quest to clear the plane and she explains the backstory.

[@keethpoop9797]

Found her while I was killing north for the silver shroud quest

[@BK-ku1zt]

did you actually bother to watch the video?

[@DeepPastry]

having a mode that causes pointless explosions every time you land in power armor is super annoying. May just be me, maybe everyone else loves a quick flash of light to draw their eye when looking at crashed plane models.

[@oxhorn]

That is a lining to your power armor legs. Just remove it using a workbench if you don't like it.

[@DeepPastry]

What, oh no meant in your video. When you were showing the planes you also had that effect going off. It detracts from an otherwise pretty good video. It also seems mostly in this video, the effect isn't in your others yet. Might just be the amount/distance of falling you did.

[@Monko_pop]

I didn't notice any eye drawing flashes.

[@Thunderchicken69]

The one underwater with the tugboat carrying wreckage could have been a prewar wreck that was being taken apart when the bombs fell, salvage ops of real crashed airliners underwater in real life look very similar with barges loaded with parts going back and forth to the shore

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

There’s an underwater crashed one that you can see while flying in the Vertibird to Mass Fusion. I spotted it in your video on the Mass Fusion tower. I’m not sure if it’s the same one as the sunken one at Spectacle Island but I think it’s different as it looked like it had a wing nearly sticking out of the water.

[@Milkjiest]

What is this? Air Crash Investigations??

[@samulai]

One of my favourite shows and game series combined. Sweet.

[@SparklRebel]

I was just about to comment! :) I love that show and the whole time I was playing the game, I was thinking they should do a Air Crash Investigations ep about these plane crashes...XD

[@wolfydawolf1296]

FrostyBitey i wish i knew what you guys are talking about, haha, could one of you please explain?

[@Milkjiest]

It's literally a show where they investigate airplane crashes..

[@Quasihamster]

"It's the morning of October 23nd, 2077. Skylanes flight 1981 is on it's final approach into Boston airport. [random cabin scene] It's a routine flight for the flight and cabin crew, as well as the 68 passengers in the plane's cabin and wings. Unknown to any of them, however, in the cargo hold below their feet, lies a whole number of objects not supposed to be there. [random cockpit scene] The captain has the runway already in sight, when suddenly, without any warning, the massive nuclear-powered aircraft plummets from the sky, on a clear and sunny morning. [random crash site scene] It is a scene of utter devastation. The plane struck a highway bridge on its nose-dive, disintegrated into many pieces and finally came to a rest in a field some miles northwest of Malden, Massachusetts. With the airplane having been maufactured presumably by General Atomics, investigation fell into the hands of... wait. This script is wrong. What the hell ind of investigation bureau is "Oxhorn" supposed to be??"

[@enclavecommander5605]

they is a stingray on the highway in concord.

[@TheLoamCourierMTB]

I think there's one more near Lexington and I'm sure, if I recall correctly. There's another one on top of the highway near the trapped bridge just along from Covenant/Taffington Boathouse

[@enclavecommander5605]

that the one i am talking about on the highway.

[@yettey750]

Sentinel Task Force there is one off the coast in Salem

[@enclavecommander5605]

there is i have not seen that one i will go have a look now

[@enclavecommander5605]

i founded it

[@BGShepard]

I got the random encounter one time. She really wanted what was in that compartment!

[@casualsleepingdragon8501]

0:38 the sting ray is technically a biplane

[@ET42Driver]

10:00 That's UH-1 Huey low RPM alert sound XD

[@duncanaskildson3618]

I saw a Stingray deluxe on one of the huge road bridges once. Can't quite remember where it was though, area-wise

[@Dan-km7yp]

Duncan Askildson West of Tucker Memorial Bridge I believe.

[@Its_Me_Romano]

Duncan Askildson jup there's also a dead pilot next to it

[@gbog20]

Late statement but I think I may have found this also but I can't find the pilot.

[@gradyb6579]

Or south of covenant

[@miloszmaras6842]

North of tucker bridge, south of lexington, on an exit.

[@killman369547]

The Horizon Air flight with Skylanes markings can be explained. Skylines likely leased the aircraft to Horizon Air and it was still under lease when the bombs dropped.

[@Rammstein0963.]

You gotta feel sorry for Flight 1665. They were damn near at ground zero when the bomb hit, and based on the FDR must've been literally knocked out of the sky by the blast.

[@horo.shizuku3883]

On one of the broken up rocks nearing the invisible wall on the right-hand side of the map, there is a really little plane (which my friends and i are assuming a star wars Easter egg) since it looks exactly like a tiefighter

[@TheGoodGeneral59]

Horo.shizuku I would look for that but too many deathskull RADSCORPIANS and I dint want to accidentally be poping ult in overwatch for the next week...

[@horo.shizuku3883]

Jonah Goodrow No enemies where this is like it's right next to the edge of the map, you'll just need lots of radaway or the perk that lets you not take radiation from being in water

[@TheGoodGeneral59]

Yeah but overwatch

[@horo.shizuku3883]

Jonah Goodrow Good point. Although im still waiting for the price of it to go down in Australia lol So not paying 90 bucks for it

[@Nikademus1969]

Are you SURE it was a TIE fighter? Only I could find was a crashed Stingray-like plane that looks a LOT like an X-Wing.

[@Callsign_Prophet]

*Answer to the plane mystery*: The US gov't knew the nukes were coming so they basically created a untold no fly zone. In other words they shot it down with a ground - air missile, explains why it hit the engine.

[@paladinboyd1228]

A.J. Bensinger, Makes sense as there is a military base near by given how bad things were before the war it could have happen. Another theory is the plane went down pre war and the black box recording was made on the ground.

[@Callsign_Prophet]

+Kidkoala If you knew you were about to get nuked wouldn't you want your radars to be clear of any possible threats?

[@paladinboyd1228]

A.J. Bensinger, Makes sense but a military aircraft would be easy to spot on radar, higher up faster speed and so on.

[@capello5688]

There is a mod that creates a stingray bomber. It works like Minutemen artillery. Throw a flare, choose the payload, wait for results.

[@BandanaDrummer95]

"It's likely that you won't have the ability to pick this lock when you first find the aircraft because it's a master lock." If the Lock Picking Lawyer has taught me anything, it's that Master Locks are the easiest to pick

[@colejosephalexanderkashay683]

Ha

[@benbleifield4745]

From what I see. These wreckages were supposed to be used for modding! At least for the models. Keep that in mind modders out there!

[@nathanwood1077]

I wish they made the Skylanes 1981 crash site into a settlement. I personally think it would be cool to live in a wreckage of a crashed plane, plus the area could be made very defensible!

[@MrStabby19812]

Garen Laulbrei or they could add salvaged parts to the build options

[@jcshark7023]

robuk1981 Too unermersive.

[@nathanwood1077]

JC Shark How so?

[@jcshark7023]

Garen Laulbrei Building salvaged plane parts???really???

[@theonewhoknows2]

as someone who has flown a plane before, engine failure can happen from a nuclear explosion depending on how far away it is as the heat generated from such a thing turns humans into shadows on a wall by ground zero. Not to mention every Nuclear Detonation causes to some degree a electromagnetic pulse .

[@BlackOctoberFox]

One small thing you missed is there is a second Skylines flight with a hidden compartment that Ness' key also works on, and that at the plane where you complete her related side quest there is a steamer trunk you can access by climbing onto the outside the cockpit and drop down onto through a hole in the roof.

[@RavenWarrior90]

EMP doesn't only mess up navigation my friend! True reason why the planes crashed: their engines were fryed! How are they supposed to fly without working engines and computer systems?

[@laurenf.7922]

RavenWarrior90 With the power of Atom! Glory to Atom!

[@MessiahOfRodents]

RavenWarrior90 planes can glide for a bit

[@yodacasper]

I doubt the aircraft in fallout can, they look like bricks, kind of a reflection of their more is better mentality.

[@UltraSuperDuperFreak]

well fryed engine kinda is messing up navigation if you think about it, hes use of it just cover all system effected without going into detail :)

[@RavenWarrior90]

To clarify everything: nope they can't... I used to be a pilot, you know? But not what you might think... sailing planes or whatever they are called in english... they can glide because they are fully aerodynamic and lightweight. Planes like THIS are way too heavy and just look at the design. In real life, planes like that cannot fly without computer because they are not aerodynamic or at least partially... just look at the F/A 22 Raptor or the F-16 Fighting Falcon, two well known fighter jets. If they cannot fly properly without computer, how could such a big one glide? Go ask Google if you want ^_^

[@BullsquidGaming]

the tug boat one was more than likely a Prewar crash that was being recovered at the times the bombs fell

[@ChrisJohnson-du9zc]

10:50... I've found that Cait can pick the lock with reasonable success

[@hybrid_grizzly]

The stingray could escort BoS vertibirds and give air support to BoS ground troops instead of flimsy vertibirds circling until they inevitably get shot down

[@othersideguy16]

I'd like to see more history into the cars of fallout

[@choogus5071]

I kept Erikson alive just cause i wanted his wolf.

[@fahrradsattel3035]

I killed him for the epic armour, it didin’t work.

[@ncc74656m]

When it comes to the one at the school, an incomplete chunk of the plane suggests in flight breakup.

[@npiper]

6:38 What is REALLY interesting is that New York and Philadelphia (he first two targets by several minutes) are both south west of Boston putting them to the back and right of the pilot. What was the flash from the north he seaw?

[@alvinjohnson5037]

yea my city.

[@7thsealord888]

Could have been a base somewhere that the enemy hit. Maybe some of the USA's defence systems actually brought down an incoming missile or bomber in that direction.

[@Bludingoable]

They could have been south west of the detonation at the time of the recording.

[@el-rufio2464]

in game i think the target that the russians chose was sentinal site presscot but even though the nuke didnt hit right on is still destroyed everything

[@MultiBlueblanket]

It could've been the bombs falling in Far Harbor, or the FAA Center north of Boston in Nashua New Hampshire. If the Chinese took down the FAA Center, that means no flights would have guidance, and so any military planes trying to shoot down the Chinese would have less help (aside from radar) and would have a harder time to safely land/fight without any guidance.

[@usstexas607]

What about the marked vertibird site in the glowing sea? Is that just for fast travel purposes?

[@LiamTheLegend]

No it's got some lore relations and I believe it's own story so that's why it has it's own map point.

[@usstexas607]

Strong Please tell me more I hate not knowing what it isssssss

[@jasonandriulaitis7885]

The World Destroyer2 mabey

[@captainhindsight6994]

Kharjo The Khajiit pfffftttt kharjo, we both know that's not true. You've been skooma'd outta your skull with me at the eagles nest for months, don't scare the guy with your imagination.

[@kuba_ota5154]

Drizzt Do'urden this is magical

[@apesibe6972]

Those little things saved the game for me, always liked the story behind the "pre-war" relics

[@fantasticmre8365]

I love how the light on flight 1665 is flashing on and of it looks very cool in the glowing sea

[@CrowDawg11]

Not sure how Boston Center wouldn't have seen the nuke when she was talking to Skylanes 1665, but it's apparent she has not from both her tone and what she actually says. I also find it hard to believe the pilot of 1665 didn't see the flash from the detonation. The relay tower audio definitely makes it sound like engine failure unrelated to the nuclear detonation

[@dylannecros3636]

CrowDawg11 the plane could have been pointed away from the explosion, and planes that size can’t see behind them at all. Unless the tower at the airport only had one window and was pointed away from the flash, I can’t explain how flight coordinator(or whatever you would call who the pilot was talking to) wouldn’t have seen the nuke go off.

[@theoryames146]

An inside flight mayday response center with no windows

[@SearynSever]

If you go to the Vim! Pop Factory, you can get some background lore on Erickson. Check out the Vim Mixing Terminal specifically in the factory section, along the East wall. He's the one who locked Grun up, and is apparently averse to hunting humans when there's other hunting in abundant supply. He also remarks that he finds the area soothing (I can't parse whether he means Far Harbor in general, or the Vim! factory in particular), and notes the opposite effect on the other super mutants. I know it's not unique for Super Mutants to wear bracers, but I thought it was interesting that Erickson wears just one metal bracer over the furry one on his left arm. Probably just a coincidence, but it reminded me of a PipBoy. Supposedly "pure, unmutated" humans like vault dwellers and the Enclave are the only ones that retain their intelligence when exposed to the FEV, and I thought the left-handed bracer might be a nod to that.

[@SearynSever]

Derp. I just noticed you already covered this in a Vim! video.

[@markusdupree5317]

2:23 planes can glide and try to land safely, they don’t transform into a fire ball

[@TheSpacecraftX]

That was actually a believable radio conversation between the controller and the crashing aircraft.

[@THEREALTICKLEMYELMO]

the plane that had 2 different recordings from 2 pilots? cuz i didnt hear him call mayday x3 and engines out is life threating soo id say not that believable but close none the less

[@joetylerdale]

You know what Ox? You make damn good videos.

[@oxhorn]

Thanks mate :)

[@TimboUnderskroll]

I 2nd that notion

[@eep500]

7:06 u missed that loot there are Gausse rifles in there

[@mr.raslyon6626]

Love your videos...you make me embarrassed that I've only played FO4 for a total of 30 mins since it came out. I hope to find the time to really dig in someday.

[@DruidsTears]

Just found this channel and glad I did. I was always curious about a lot of the odd, out of place, and goofy things. Plus I like a good story. :D

[@dannyb2344]

What happened to the runways at Boston airport, did it sink into Boston harbor or did bathesda forget to add it?

[@Falloutgamer-nm4lt]

I think it sunk into the harbor or it looks like Bethesda just ran out of room in the area plus maybe if they did the frames would drop a lot!?

[@papajohnscena8777]

As well as probably sinking and eroding, the runways would have been much shorter as well. The planes taking off there appear to be shorter than normal planes we see today, and they were powered by uranium, possibly a much more powerful fuel than jet fuel. When combining shorter planes with more power, the time between when the plane first starts moving and when it leaves the ground would be only a matter of seconds, therefore runways did not require so much length.

[@joshuak7236]

Papa John's Cena But how would you land if they were shorter?

[@papajohnscena8777]

Hmm, good point... Maybe they had the technology to slow the plane faster and still land it smoothly, but I wouldn't know. My theory was really loose and off the top of my head, the developers were probably just lazy.

[@fascilime]

I think they just forgot to add it

[@sfmtv8399]

1 coat of paint can be 1/4 to over a full ton of added weight to the aircraft; they're also notoriously expensive. Airplanes bought second hand often have semi paint jobs that may still include the logo of their previous owner.

[@chrisraeburn9015]

I do not own the game, but this channel is fantastic and consistently draws me back.

[@abe_janh1483]

When the Bomb dropped, the flight was downed by An EMP Blast threw the engine.

[@christyme6395]

It's all cool but if there really was an EMP there would have been no recordings of it. All the electronics would have fried at once, lights would have gone out and the planes would have simply fallen from the sky.

[@jerrell1169]

No not really the bombs make a EMP that is only strong enough to do minor damage to basic system and planes electronic systems are very protected

[@lonestar_iconoclast]

I started a new playthrough and my Nate found Super Mutants at Skylanes 1981 as well the bodies of Brotherhood of Steel members in full armor. (Including an abandoned suit that was set to owned for whatever reason.) On my other chracter, I found a legendary Gauss Rifle in that smuggling compartment. This newer character had to ocme back but, sadly, no gauss rifles. Plenty of ammo and chems, though.

[@someoneprobably1016]

In the art of fallout 4 page 325 you can find the "Fly! Horizon Skyways" advertisement with a good view of a pre-war jetliner.

[@BrawndoTarrlyton]

Watched this and about half way through starting putting 2 and 2 together (well more like 2 and 0 because it's kind of the same username): You used to do those WoW machinima videos under Oxhorn Productions like inventing swear words. The wedding one floored me, my friends GF is named Lacey, and I keep saying it in that hoarse Tauren voice from that series.

[@oxhorn]

Yep that's me, good times! Welcome to the new channel :)

[@aussiebloke609]

ROFLMAO. lol

[@VAMPiggy]

There is a stingray deluxe on a highway and it's squished

[@thepolishdude2194]

@Oxhorn not sure if anyone pointed this out. One answer to he reason why the passenger planes have contradicting markings or liveries is because both airlines might have funded the development of the aircraft like British airlines and Air France with the Concord, another possible explanation is that one company might have owned the other like Continental and United, however I find the second one unlikely

[@cochleari3245]

regarding the aircraft with swapped logos, yes the airlines could be trading different planes for eachother though i haven't seen any cases where a flight happens before repainting the craft with a new livery. the only explanation could be that they were test flights to see if the planes were flight-worthy for the airline but that wouldn't explain any luggage found in the cargo bay.

[@michaeletzel4877]

An airplane wouldn't just fall out of the sky because an EMP hit. It could easily continue flying (at least gliding without power). It's not like an EMP would immediately bring the plane down. That's like saying you would immediately crash your car if the engine suddenly stopped working.

[@Sheehy223]

You need to remember that Fallout 4 is set in a VERY technologically advanced society. These planes probably relied so much on internal computers, if the computers failed, so would the rest of the plane.

[@michaeletzel4877]

***** Maybe I'm injecting way too much logic into a fictional situation, but it still bothers me. For the sake of the argument, most of what you described makes no sense at all, especially needing to fly at supersonic speeds just to stay in the air. This would mean that if the plane was going any slower than supersonic speeds it would not be able to fly. The plane would need to take off and land at supersonic speeds, and that in itself is more ridiculous than the idea of nukes taking planes down. Also, the pilots might not be able to manipulate the flight controls after an EMP, but that doesn't mean the wings stop producing lift. Paper airplanes produce lift, and they don't have control surfaces, and are not connected to electronics at all! The idea is plausible in one way though: if the aircraft had its control surfaces extended (like if it was turning) right when the EMP hit, and the control surfaces were stuck in the extended position, the aircraft would not be able to glide straight and level and would crash very quickly. However, if all the control surfaces are neutral when the EMP hits, the plane should be able to glide just fine for a while, depending on the altitude it's at. Also, in the real world, if an airplane were to impact the ground at supersonic speeds there would be pretty much nothing left in the wreckage that even remotely resembles an airplane. All the pieces of debris would be very small (you could hold pretty much every piece you find in one hand). You certainly wouldn't see the wing and fuselage sections so close to each other and relatively intact (by the way, the debris fields you see in the game are absolutely tiny compared to what is common in the real world). A debris pattern like that can only occur if the airplane crashed at low speed (only about 300 to 400 kilometers per hour, or 150 to 250 miles per hour).

[@michaeletzel4877]

I do agree with the idea that the blast from a nuke could take a plane down. The crew of the Enola Gay (the plane that dropped the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima) needed to turn sharply immediately after dropping the bomb in order to be clear from the blast. This idea makes MUCH more sense than your other ones. :)

[@spencerkurth3490]

Just so you guys know. Planes do use hydraulic fluid, not any electrical manipulation to manipulate the plane's controls. This is because nuclear and emp blasts or no, electrical failures happen all the time. That is why even in the largest of aircraft today, they do not use purely electronic manipulation.

[@spencerkurth3490]

But the basic flight controls (ie. Rudders, horizontal and vertical stabilizers, and ailerons) do not depend on electricity. They are manipulated by direct control. Meaning that you would have to go and literally cut the physical control cords in these aircraft. This feature is because electrical failure happens all the time in aircraft and so essential controls are never allowed to rely on just electricity.

[@pandorasflame7742]

Airlines actually do sell each other planes. I'm not sure about loaning them, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[@mikoto7693]

They also lease them to each other. Some are left unmarked specifically for leasing. They can even be leased with a full crew called wet leasing.