The Institute Ending & its Epilogue - The Story of Fallout 4 Part 31

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[@zekeolopwi6642]

You've probably mentioned this in some stream but I had no idea you were raising those kids alone. I already thought you were a pretty upright dude, but somehow you've raised my opinion of you further. I'm sure it's not easy. Thank you for all the fun content you've given the community. I wish the best for you and your kiddos 😎

[@HattaTHEZulZILLA86]

Good thing you went with The Institute Route first, since the route was VERY unrewarding for most players (like me during my first playthrough). I deleted my save and decided to NEVER give The Institute a chance other than giving the refugees a new home on the surface after I went Nuclear on them. Sure wished they could've restored the cut content where you encountered the synth version of the SS's spouse and have the story go from there and deal with the SS's spouse's horror dealing with the reality of the fact that the synth realized that the synth's life and memories were fake, basically a repeat of Nick Valentine's story when he escaped The Institute with DiMA. Personally, I think it's CRUEL to have the Synth Shaun live FOREVER as a boy that NEVER GROWS UP.

[@mrcp9345]

I canda miss Opportunity T-shirts mines mines mines oh well 😢😅😊

[@mrcp9345]

My bad I thought it is merch 😮

[@big.venom.snake.boss.]

That wasn't an ad for factor that was just proof you have legs.

[@Lordmaniax357]

See... I had a couple problems with siding with the Institute... One of them was "Father" releasing his parent into the wilderness without info, supplies or expectations of survival.. Then expected us to welcome him with open arms... then he gets mad when we don't agree with him... Also when we got "kicked out" and told to not interfere with the Institute plans the first thing Father does is attacks us without trying a couple times to persuade us to join. Then gets offended that we tear it down around his ears.

[@cashtechy]

I agree. As soon as Sean called us an “experiment of sorts” I never sided with the institute at all but once just to see what would happen, and even then I never really enjoyed siding with them.

[@Lordmaniax357]

@@cashtechy Funny part is that father tells us to stay out of their way and the first thing they do is attack.. My first play through I was more then happy to avoid them and see what faction forced me to engage... After all the Institute up until then was only mild annoyance in the commonwealth. When they got aggressive is when they opened themselves up to destruction.

[@richardgray7480]

@@cashtechy My take on this is that Father gave us a tailored FEV to boost our capabilities. Both for experimental and sentimental reasons.

[@mikeschaoticgardening]

​@@richardgray7480and gave us dogmeat the synth..probably revived codsworth too with a 200 year old tape to motivate us

[@richardgray7480]

@@mikeschaoticgardening Well, that would certainly explain the indestructible pet meme... though it would have been pretty confusing to open up his inventory on a first run and find a synth component. Not that all the known synths have synth components, so maybe... ...creepy thought.

[@ValkyrieLightwing]

I'm a little disappointed in how this story ends. I wish that, as director, the Sole Survivor was able to actively choose how the Institute proceeds, whether they want to continue and contribute to the experimenting, and retention of synths, as they have done, or if they want to give synths more free-will, or to contribute to actual meaningful help and preservation of above-ground life. The institute is at a very unique place, where they can be the saviors or the destroyers of those above ground, and I just feel like with how it ends, and really the lack of further story development, it seems to lean more towards how The Institute has been running the whole time; the destroyers of those above ground for their own preservation.

[@senhowler]

You would never have a choice. The only reason why the Institute seemed to take commands from Father is because they agreed with his overall direction. They would never follow someone who tried to radically change them and take away the future they see for themselves and only themselves.

[@ImperialMachine]

It's really all up to your imagination. But most of the quests hint how the Institute can change from the Sole Survivor's influence depending on the player's choices.

[@senhowler]

@@ImperialMachine No they don't. It's all "you have to kidnap this guy", "you have to kill these people", "you have to destroy this faction". You never have any influence.

[@ImperialMachine]

@@senhowler There's more than that. There is also "Deal with a mutiny problem and spare instead of kill two scientists", "Make peace with The Minutemen while recruiting a reluctant scientist", "Find an artifact to solve the Institute's energy crisis", "Decide on what project the Institute should prioritize", and "Write a more positive and reassuring speech about the Institute for the Commonwealth."

[@senhowler]

@@ImperialMachine First one is internal, the Institute caring about the Institute. Second one they literally don't care in any way whether or not you kill the Minutemen. Third one is all about the Institute. Fourth one is "decide how we should conduct war against the Commonwealth, Synths or weapons?". Last one you weren't asked to do and their reaction is confusion with zero change to their plans in any form.

[@Singeferno]

You forgot Hancock as a companion that hates the Institute and should not continue as a companion. I get that they didn't want to deny players their companions, but I think from a lore perspective, Nick, Piper, Hancock, and Preston should stop following you.

[@alpacalover0]

Piper thinks it over after her initial outburst and once you have max affinity she writes an article saying that you're leading the Institute in a better direction so the Institute might be part of the Commonwealth's future now. Preston doesn't really desire the total destruction of the Institute, just an end to their aggression against the Commonwealth. As head of both the Institute and the Minutemen, that's one of the few things you could probably enact without question, and Preston feels like destroying the Brotherhood with the Institute has saved the Commonwealth from a big threat either way. Nick is pretty shocked and disappointed, but he comes to grips with it probably after a talk with Piper about things (and hey, he says he wishes they could answer a few questions for him even after completing Far Harbor, so maybe it's not too terrible a situation for him). And Hancock...well, you did just wipe the Brotherhood off the Commonwealth's map for good. Like with Preston, I'm sure he can tolerate it because he trusts you to change things over time and at least stop all the infiltration and kidnappings the SRB does. Rest of the companions are either just glad you achieved your goals (Cait, MacCready, X6-88, Porter Gage), are dead (RIP Deacon and Danse), or are apathetic about who governs the Commonwealth Wasteland (Strong, Ada, Curie, Dogmeat, Longfellow).

[@spp1d3r]

It’s not that serious lol

[@MarktheCrawler]

@@spp1d3r This is a 100+ series on all the avenues of fallout game story, none of this is serious.

[@theviking1359]

Nick might stick around to try to find out answers about his past. He’d be willing to put up with the Institute for that purpose.

[@emmanuellawyer8562]

Preston doesn't hate the institute as much as the piper and handcock

[@skyr4tMusic]

Piper furiously tightening the bolt while being pissed off is comedy gold

[@augernaut4923]

39:30 "I know a stone cold killer when I see one." BRO IS SITTING ON A BENCH DRINKING WATER

[@hedwind]

Shaun dying always hurts my heart especially when he says, “I think I’d like to sleep now.” Absolutely heart wrenching

[@marbleherogaming735]

I know, our character has lost so much and losing shaun is the last piece of the old life left

[@whatdoesthisthingdo]

As I watched him die I felt no sympathy, not even pity. My mourning was for myself alone. My own loss. A loss that had occurred long before he breathed his last. This aged, cynical husk of a man was not my son, and he never could have been. This person was the poorest, the cruelest of substitutes, a sickening joke of fate, and ultimately, nothing more than another passing reminder of all that was taken from me. Perhaps worse, all that could be taken from me. How could I hope to truly care for a single source of happiness in this life ever again? Rage, terror, and despair were my future. My destiny. I pressed the muzzle of that brutal .44 to my temple. It was comfortingly cold. I’d seen what a weapon of this caliber could do to a body. My lovely little head would be splattered across the room within a few moments. But the mess would be someone else’s to deal with. And I would be free of mine. My index finger brushed that fragile hair trigger. A single, shuddering sob could be all it would take to end this. Yet, none came. I gradually became aware of a presence. Cait stood nonchalantly in the doorway. How long had she been there? We locked eyes and she slowly nodded and sat down on the bed, pushing aside my son’s lifeless legs. “No respect for the dead?” I asked her, verging on hysterical laughter. Her uncharacteristically gentle expression told me she understood much. “No more than they deserve.” I had lost perspective. Who the hell was I to let her down? Slowly I lowered my weapon and nodded back at her with an ashamed twinkle in my eye. We needed each other, and we would see this journey through to the end.

[@maximvsdread1610]

@@whatdoesthisthingdo I married Cait too.

[@channelaboutthings3435]

Oh really? I stabbed him with my sword as I was blowing up the institute

[@simonmo3858]

It seems very strange tho given how many avenues to immortality are in the game... Abbotts, synths, robo brains, magical institute tech.... e.t.c...

[@EmperorRyu1]

1. Synth consciousness is never confirmed. You can argue; if it looks, smells and sounds like a Human - we should give it the benefit of the doubt. And I am inclined to agree - Synths should be treated kindly. The Institute doesn't exactly tyrannize their Synths though, they make them work and perform jobs such as construction, janitorial work and other tasks. But considering they are living in the most pristine place in the Commonwealth, they are lucky. Despite this, a lot of Synths, even Coursers; go rogue. They claim they want freedom but when you approach them and ask why they want freedom - most of them say they do not know. This is due to them being simulacrums of Humans, they were designed to mimic our behavior, of course they have the potential to mimic that desire. 2. The Wasteland isn't ready for them Regardless, the Railroad have no qualms with taking these Synths and convincing them that life in the Wasteland is better. They give them dangerous or shitty jobs. Or some become Raiders. Even with the moral and ethical issues in play, there is also the fact that Synths do not age and they cannot sexually reproduce - eventually sooner or later, they will figure out they are Synths and have existential crisis or nervous breakdowns or others will find out they are Synths and try to destroy or exile them. They are simply not enough people around who are accepting of them. But the Railroad thinks it is ok to set them free. 3. Their Freedom is a lie Institute Synths usually fall into one of two categories. Those who have their memories untouched and remember the Institute fully and those who have been given engrams with detailed but fake lives. Synths that go rogue tend to find they cannot cope with either of those memories - but the Railroad is more than happy to commit the same crime the Institute does - by giving them new fake memories at the Memory Den in Goodneighbour. To make matters worse, this process sometimes kills the Synth. 4. The Railroad will destroy the Synths Future With the destruction of the Institute, the Railroad will destroy the Synths only known means of reproduction. Without the Institute's facility, the Synths will never be able to even at least mimic the growth of a culture or to create pre-fabricated family members. With no more Synths being made, the freedom of their very future will be taken away from them. 5. Synths are means to an end The whole purpose of the Gen 3 Synth is to act as a test bed in the direction of transferring Human consciousness into the Synth. The Institute's slogan is "Mankind - Redefined" and they mean this literally. They have concluded that the Human genepool is too small and too corrupt to be successfully propagated for a meaningful length of time. The only way for us to survive is to become Human 2.0. This line of thinking, is completely beyond both the Railroad and BoS's own visions.

[@0uttaS1TE]

Oh my God I didn't even know you were still doing lore videos. I gotta catch up on this!

[@sporkafife]

You're next few days are sorted then 😂

[@0uttaS1TE]

@@sporkafife More like next few weeks. Which factions has he done so far?

[@robertdowling4673]

its a shame ox hates fallout 4 like the rest. he says as much in this video.

[@srellison561]

@@0uttaS1TE Only the Institute so far.

[@dingbat19]

@@robertdowling4673 wdym he loves the game.

[@YesImCanadian]

I wasn’t expecting you to get a sponsorship, but congrats on that. You make it sound way better than some of the other creators that I watch

[@jacob-the-awsome-autist]

In that segment he said he's a single father did something happen to his wife

[@propernoun1583]

The minuteman ending should be last, as I find it the most satisfying one and a good conclusion to this series.

[@propernoun1583]

@Stugna Bulah I know, it's just my opinion. I don't have any actual say, and I know that.

[@Steel-101]

“All those lives lost. For what? So a group of mad scientists can keep plundering the commonwealth to their hearts content?” Every single line from Nick is fantastic. He’s the best companion in the game. Also yeah even though you do see some immediate consequences(like the factions patrolling the wasteland & their presence in diamond city), I really wish there was more reaction to your decisions in the game. It’s really bizarre. NV & F4 have the same issue. Example: You took down Caesar & all you get is “unknown assailants” on the news. Anyway Bethesda should’ve put some ending slides in F4 to show the long-term consequences.

[@loraelstad8941]

Agreed & hi 👋🏻!

[@Steel-101]

@@loraelstad8941 HOWDY 🤠

[@Schmancy114]

When u take down caesar. A lot of NOC’s will react

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

This has been a fun ride. Can't wait to see the other time lines

[@leegraves8878]

Child Shaun was a gift to his Father to try and give back some of what he lost.

[@technicolorstratosphere]

Ox, could you super-duper-please do an updated tour of your Fallout “Shrine” / collection? It has been a major inspiration for my own and I’d love to see what all has changed or wasn’t on display before!

[@technicolorstratosphere]

also, congrats on the weight loss journey, and great job on the Fallout role-play element of the ad

[@robertdowling4673]

its a shame ox hates fallout 4 like the rest. he says as much in this video.

[@jamesmcallen3354]

Always impressed with the qualities of these videos, can’t imagine how much time and patience it takes to go through every single dialogue option and go through to show multiple outcomes of the player choices in quests.

[@nonamegiven202]

Did i missed it or did you not show Fear the Future? and Mama Murphy's visions did you, like those are the biggest post ending hints Bethesda gives towards you leading the institute in a better direction. plus with Murphy just having "You will not be loved" followed by the minutemen's " You're a hero. A symbol for a better world. Our world." is just great fun.

[@aboomer420]

I feel like there's a missing conversation option with Piper after the ending where we reassure her that we're going to steer the Institute towards the path of good. Would make Fear the Future? connect better for sure

[@MrDarthT]

With the institute still functioning, is it possible that Synth Shaun will be altered over time to appear older? All the Synths that we see built in robotics appear to start out looking the same, and are altered to look different in the inaccessible "Processing" area, which is a bit silly, given that the institute essentially builds their Synths twice.

[@christianjohnson5379]

Either that, or they could have created a new, older looking synth body do they could have transferred his mind into, similar to what happened with Curie.

[@ajeezy8775]

Travis echos my sentiment about the BOS: disbelief but laced with much more melancholy. ‘Ok so… in the mean time… escapism. Just play some music.’ Can’t argue with that. But truly, thanks for all the effort and time you put into this series Ox. It was interesting to see the Institute ending/epilogue but it was somehow even more emotional than the one we typically get siding with the other factions. Fallout's my favorite and I hope you will do more in the future. As always, even being an Institute ‘traitor’ in this instance, Ad Victoriam.

[@perturbedbatman2009]

Goodneighbor guard: “Look, I don’t want no trouble from your friend, he scares the livin’ daylights outta me!” X6-88: *sips water while sitting on a park bench*

[@Qwerty45559]

He’s just drinking there.. menacingly

[@NickKnack87]

An adult (or older) body can always be developed for Synth Shaun, and his consciousness can be uploaded into that adult body.

[@loraelstad8941]

I was thinking this, too, but still don’t like the moral implications of the whole situation.

[@jemru]

Ox when you do the railroad playthrough are you going to redo all the institute quests since up until a certain point its basically the same questline

[@oxhorn]

No, I will only show unique-to-railroad content.

[@jemru]

​@@oxhorn ok thanks for clearing up

[@MrMrboy09]

The whole game had its flaws and glitches and lore breaks, here, there, here and there again lol But when the game released I was a new father (IRL) and the main quest of finding Shaun was my priority. The story of losing your spouse and child then finding your child (synth) and then having them taken away (synth not real) then finding your child again (Father) only for them to be taken by away by time… what a tug on the heart for a real parent. The ending hit a little hard for me lol 😅😅😅

[@tombakabones274]

Nate being the military person that he is would not only have those checkpoints set up to hunt down the rest of the brotherhood and the railroad but also as a show of force in order to send a message to anybody who would threaten The institute

[@chefbreccia2642]

That X6-88 photobomb strut at 19:29

[@vaulthunter7777]

Glad you picked the Institute first it's the same choice I made the 1st time i played now I'm doin a Minute Men playthrough and a Brotherhood playthrough. Not a huge fan of Railroad for obvious reasons but can't wait to see which 1 you pick to do next!

[@MrMack49]

Railroad is kinda dumb they wanna free while destroying where they come from 😂

[@Steel-101]

@@MrMack49 Well creating more does not benefit humanity. Synths cannot produce children that’s a fact & The institute has terrorized the Commonwealth for a long time. Also it does cause paranoia(which is what we see in the game). So why add more to the difficult situation here? However The railroad want to show mercy to the Synths that are similar to humans(with emotions, memories, etc). The institute gives these machines human emotions and then make them slaves(which is what happens in blade runner)? That’s pretty messed up. So it’s cool that the railroad wants to give these people freedom. Obviously these machines aren’t human but we shouldn’t be cruel to them. Would you be cruel to Codsworth & Nick? Definitely not

[@killxxhollywoodxx]

Congratulations!!!!! I had noticed you slimming down but had no idea you had such a success!!! 100 lbs is incredible!!!! Way to go Ox! 🎉

[@SwearMY]

I love the rewind section. Really nicely done.

[@bobowon5450]

the factor sponsership made me laugh because its the most fallout universe sponser you could possibly have gotten. just like how i imagine the in game meals to be

[@SteveWhittleFL]

Good morning! Looking forward to you putting a bow on the Institute option today and then waiting in anticipation to see which faction you crank up next week. Have a great weekend!

[@ROY4L-AC3]

Oxhorn... I've put so many hours into each and every Fallout game, so much so sometimes I get physically sick thinking about the amount of time spent there, but somehow EVERY SINGLE TIME I watch one of your lore or story videos I think 'I want to play again'. Even after putting close to 600 hrs into Fallout 4 across all my playthroughs. You make the Fallout world feel rich and full again in a way I can't quite describe. Never stop. Ad Victorium

[@NirvashTypeTHEANGEL]

I'd really like to see the Minutemen next. I've not seen any good lore on that ending yet and I'm at the same point as here aiming for Minutemen in my playthrough.

[@tedzaleschook]

Wait, wait,wait! What about Myrna in Diamond City? DOES SHE SERVE SYNTHS NOW?

[@loraelstad8941]

Lol

[@Arthaslk67]

I think she does now even though she still says she doesn't.

[@Captain_Flyn95]

I haven't really been up to date with your streams and videos for a while, but i was quite surprised to hear you're a single-dad now. Sorry to hear that. A divorce is never nice.

[@Maddoktor2]

I've always wondered why the Institute didn't simply build a RoboBrain body and install Father's brain in that so he could survive, it's not as if they didn't have the needed skills to do that, after all.

[@armchair3339]

I’ve been subscribed for a while and I just wanted to say congratulations on your weight loss. You look fantastic! Now I’ve just got to catch up on the videos I missed in basic. Keep up the incredible work!

[@faridagasiyev7042]

İf only there was an option, for example, to close SRB and redistribute scientists in other 3 factions, especially if we could spare the Railroad and convince them that we are the director now and synths are being treated well

[@TheNextMarx]

Ox when you sponsored Factor and said you’ve been losing weight over the past few years. So proud of you! I thought I noticed it but never said anything in the live streams.

[@jonathanbrown4465]

One of the things in Fallout 4 that I find amusing is that whenever you, the protagonist, are leading one or other group you are always being told what to do by others, Strange sort of leadership.

[@corypowercat7277]

I'm on my first Institute playthrough and I'm mentally psyching myself for what lays in wait.

[@Moeflyer6213]

Except Dogmeat, only X6-88 would like to be your loyal companion when you sided with the Institute.

[@R-C.]

This man is dedicated to fallout 4 content may he live eternally

[@GlendonPerkinsgp]

I’m glad you did this. I never side with the Institute or BoS. I never talk to Shaun unless required. I let that psychopath burn in his bed all alone.

[@therakshasan8547]

The 1st time you were told to get an Alarm Clock. The 2nd time you were told to get a telephone . There is a way to make Peace between the Brotherhood , Rail Road , and the minutemen .

[@TheJam1192]

I'm both excited and despaired at how long this series is going to be! I should go back and watch some other related content of yours and also the one for FO3!

[@nickthesynth4387]

Good work ox! I wish Bethesda spent more time on the institute ending. So many holes in plot things that make no sense. Thank you for your professionalism and ignorance to the large issues within the late game lore just so we can enjoy what story we have and your awesome lore videos. Also sponsors are welcome! We know its tough. keep it professional! Ive had factor ill use your code next time.

[@that-1-boi]

Man, I haven’t watched this channel in 4 years- I’m so happy your still making fallout 4 videos (Also it’s amazing youre losing weight, need you to live to 2077)

[@firepaw2469]

Personally I wanna believe that maybe with the reprogramming they might’ve perhaps found a way to jumpstart Gen 5 synths. Synths that grow and can feel human emotion depending on what is programmed, raised as a human child, and seeing as they had such a rare source of DNA for Synth Shawn I feel that it maybe one of the only synths of his kind because how many babies are cyroed in a vault?

[@eichler721]

Honestly the best option would be a hybrid of you taking control of the Brotherhood and working with the minutemen to destroy the Institute and then run the common wealth with them running security and you driving innovation and missions outside the area. Also being a heavy shock assault force for any big issues.

[@TRGreen-dk1mb]

Awesome job Ox! Looking forward to the other endings.

[@robertdowling4673]

its a shame ox hates fallout 4 like the rest. he says as much in this video.

[@tylerpentecost9669]

I'm loving this series. Thanks!

[@FatrickAteman]

“I wouldn’t expect you to understand” Wow not even a day after becoming director and the Sole Survivor already has all their new lines memorized.

[@toakongu1]

10:57 Oxhorn DAD mode engaged Also, new channel slogan idea: "For the Lore!"

[@mattotterpop]

Great video series as always, but more importantly huge Congrats! losing 100lbs is no mean feat! I know I been there too! proud of you Ox!

[@zonolith5912]

I love how emotional Shaun's VA was, dude felt like he was genuinely dying and peacefully going out with his dreams realized and all I hear in response to what should have been a tear jerking seen was the most nonchalant 'Alright' from the Protagonist, lol.

[@loraelstad8941]

He played all 4 possible responses to each dialogue tree, but the bad/sarcastic ones are always jarring.

[@zonolith5912]

@@loraelstad8941 TO be fair, they were ALL jarring, lol.

[@lazwardazure716]

"And so that's how I became the Director of the Institute. from Wandering Wastelander to Courier to NCR Soldier to Paladin to Lead Scientist of Big Mountain to where I am now. I know I've done things that can be considered cruel to others while I found them justified. say what you will of my actions but that's on my conscious" - Courier 6

[@austinward7526]

4:28 That ending tho always makes me feel so sad.😢

[@TheAfroClub]

I don’t even think Father reprogrammed Shaun for the Sole Survivor. I think he did it for himself. It’s like that one clip said: Synth Shaun is the closest thing to the son Nate and Nora would’ve had had the bombs not dropped. Even if the Sole Survivor was determined to have a relationship with Father, I don’t think Father really loved them as much as he wished he could have. He probably saw how desperate his parents were to save him and wishes he could feel that kind of love for them, too. Synth Shaun is his way of ensuring that some part of him gets to have the life he always wanted.

[@KBMaximus]

Thanks for making these videos, Oxy. My disk drive went out a few months back but I can watch through you. I look forward to the next videos.

[@zeroxgaming4030]

Ox that is great to hear you lost 100lbs. Keep it up

[@Jamespeters-v8v]

Cannot wait for the next episode. I think I watched every Oxhorn Fallout video a few times, especially Far Harbor....I wonder which faction will be next.

[@nobbyfirefly57]

23:55 if there was an “of course I fucking would” option, I’d click it in a heartbeat

[@Broken_TilesMAIN]

I wish they expanded on the child Shaun lore like him being a special synth that grows like a real human it seems like a thing that could happen in the fallout universe

[@j.pmendel2329]

i guess shaun would need a lot of "iron" in his diet to grow big and tall like his "dad" ;-)

[@phillipnigro4384]

I've always felt that it was the final gift from a son to a dad

[@LynnieFleegleJr]

Ur wife would have wanted you to side with the institute on there sheer fact of the family reunion

[@CometSamurai]

I’ve been following Oxhorn since he first started Fallout 4 and it’s so great to see how far he’s come over the years and that weightloss is incredible! I’m so happy for you Ox it’s also helped give me the motivation I need to get healthier too so thank you Oxhorn, for everything, the lore videos the livestreams and everything else thank you for giving me and everyone countless hours of fun and enjoyable content to watch every week. If it weren’t for the Fallout lore videos I wouldn’t be here and be able to fall in love with this franchise like I do today. Here’s to many more years Oxhorn ❤

[@twilliamspro]

I think thats a really nice thing to do Turning the young shaun synth into the Son you lost is heartwarming

[@christianweibrecht6555]

As director I would use this as inspiration to replace all defiant & under performing Institute members with synths

[@UntouchedWagons]

42:10 "They kinda already dead?" Had me in stitches. The delivery was hilarious.

[@DianeBethra]

Interesting to see this. I only did the Institute ending once, in multiple playthroughs, simply couldn't stand it so never revisted it and I had forgotten some of the nuance - although I still couldn't do it. My very first playthrough when I had no clue what was going on I got into the Institute and promptly shot father as soon as I could, and irrespective of now knowing the story I still think that was a genuine reaction. Finding the fev lab and the pens where it looked like children (and cats?) were penned up, Swans story, the guy in good neighbor that the neighborhood watch deal with, Roger Warwick, and who knows how many other unecessary and cruel behaviours (both in the game and extrapolated) in subsequent gaming. It all simply confirmed my belief that Shaun is a sociapath (using his parent in an experiment that could have easily got him killed just cos he could?). Him and his institute are in no future of the commonwealth I would want to be a part of irrespective of the 3 minutes I had to bond with him as a baby. If thats the best hope for humanity we're doomed. I wonder if its because the institute are all descended from people with a penchant for science and tech. No humanities, no history or art. Never see what the kids in the Institute are taught in school - never actually see a schoolroom - but somehow I doubt ethics was a required course.

[@zteknik]

Another top notch vid Ox! Between your live streams and lore videos you still find time for the kiddos and your health. Love ya Ox!

[@callmewisteria]

the one thing that gets me about every ending is the way, in his holotape, Shaun admits that Synth-Shaun is sentient and just about human. it's really sad. and every ending makes me cry. i haven't cried at the endings of a video game for a long time, but all four of fallout 4's endings make me cry because of both the death of the player character's son, as well as the way he felt about Synth-Shaun. personally, i think an ending where Shaun died before the final choice had to be made (whether to destroy the Institute or to destroy the Brotherhood/Railroad/Minutemen) and the player character's decisions decided the direction the Institute would go (including if the Institute would be allowed to continue existing at all) could have been interesting, especially if one of those options was to force the Institute to be opened up to the surface, and let synths choose if they wanted to stay in the Institute or not. with the way the game is, i choose to side with the Railroad and the Minutemen, but explore the Institute and the Brotherhood up until the breaking point. for me, the breaking point with the Brotherhood is when you have to choose whether or not to execute Danse, and, of course, the breaking point with the Institute is the Nuclear Option. there was a lot that the player character could have done to change the Institute by taking on the role of Director before Shaun died and/or Shaun's death occurs before the final decision on what the fate of the Institute will be. there is so much that could have been done to further complicate the decisions of loyalty in the endings to fallout 4, and adding in mixed ones alongside the four pretty clear ones is probably my favourite to explore/consider as both a player and a fanfiction writer.

[@mrcp9345]

Thanks! You for the last institute story just a question what are legendary effects 🤔

[@loraelstad8941]

Legendary effects are the perks those Legendary weapons or armor come with. Like giving you a plus to Intelligence or Perception or adding a percentage of more damage to a certain type of enemy like to super mutants or even just giving certain additional elemental damage like incendiary catching enemies on fire upon shooting or hitting them with it (if ranged or melee). Hope that helps.

[@indigowells]

38:42 Something bout them just quietly staring at you for an uncomfortable amount of time after that conversation is weirdly funny

[@RosemaryCemetery]

I dont think he was "programmed to think like father cared for him now" and more like he actually did start spending time with him while he knew his life was coming to a close

[@Pyrotrainthing]

If you do another main quest, I recommend the Brotherhood or the Railroad, I remember picking the Brotherhood in Fallout 4 thinking I was joining the Fallout 3 Brotherhood because they had Arthur Maxon but then I had to kill the Railroad :(

[@GlendonPerkinsgp]

You must be new here.

[@loraelstad8941]

Just a heads up: the point of this series is to play through what the end game is for each of the main factions. Maybe you posted this before reaching the end of the video? He mentions that but doesn’t spoil which faction will be covered next. It’ll be awhile, so he can capture footage in between factions, once he finishes one, so next video might be few weeks away. Keep an eye out.

[@Steel-101]

I think you’re going to like the Minutemen ending. And that’s all I’m going to say

[@robertdowling4673]

its a shame ox hates fallout 4 like the rest. he says as much in this video.

[@Steel-101]

@@robertdowling4673 ummm excuse me? I just watched the video now and he doesn’t say that once. He doesn’t hate fallout 4. His channel points out the pros and the cons of each fallout game.

[@joshbunton6424]

Congrats Ox on the weight loss success

[@GrievousReborn]

Why do I have the feeling that by the time this entire series is over it's going to have over 50 or 60 videos

[@arwrw2]

"I know a stome cold killer when I see one" 39:35

[@panathentic]

Wow! Been a while since I've visited the channel but I'm so glad you're making strides towards your weight goal! Great to see that it seems you're healthy, and just as happy as ever!

[@robertnett9793]

Ox - I just wanna say, thank you for that great narration of the whole story. See, I bought the Fallout ttrpg a while back and am now beginning working on a campaign. And Wiki on the one hand, the game on the other - a lot of text in the books... it's your way of telling the story that makes the world feeling so living - that this might be the best source for anyone wanting to get a good picture about the past and present of the Commonwealth :D

[@rgnestle]

Loved the video. You should do a video like the one I did where you wipe out everyone in the Institute and then leave the way you first came in. Then number of Institute synths you have to fight depends on how many you leave alive in the Institute. Get rid of everyone and you won't believe what's down in the bowels of the building!!! :) (I hope this didn't come up twice. The first one seems to have disappeared as I was editing it (or did they block me from commenting again because I mentioned one of my videos?))

[@tommyboy1984a]

I believe the experiment that was being conducted was one in the development of family bonds and ties... It was Shawn's last experiment. Although he will never see this result, it is his last major contribution to the Institute in the form of a possible change of philosophy. Mankind Redefined must mean the development and growth of the perspective and I believe this was the purpose for this.

[@christopherconard2831]

Plot twist. Father transferred his mind into synth Shawn. He'll spend the next years working behind the scenes to take back the Institute. Or, if you destroy the Institute but save the synth, plot his revenge.

[@Robert53area]

There is two reasons to do an experiment. One, to find out if your hypothesis is correct or incorrect. Two, because you already know the outcome you just like seeing the result. Father's final experiment with synth Shaun is the second option. He already knows the outcome.

[@MrGillb]

idk why everyone is like "you really sold out here bro" when you're literally the dictator of the institute who can just stop all of their dumb bullshit at anytime lmao. It'd actually be a pretty cool post game quest to deal with anyone trying to usurp you due to stuff you do when you take control of a faction post game, or allow the option for the player to just take over said faction in their ending. Turn the brotherhood into power armored raider sky pirates? Make the institute actually improve the surface? The railroad basically becoming the institute through running society in the background via subterfuge? Minutemen into NCR? so many possibilities here . Could probably just like mod it in actually, make it so that each controlled settlement gains a sort of special effect with the crossing of ending choice + karma direction

[@sidestreetallycat]

Loved loved your little commercial. Perfect segway in the video!

[@Jon-1005]

I sided with The Institute. They are the only chance the Commonwealth has for a safe, secure, and prosperous future.

[@TGSterling]

It would be cool if you could offer Father the Cabot Cure

[@Cheeeseyboi]

After airship down, you can cap father and immediately get the credits. This is the only time in the base game you can kill a faction leader without angering said faction

[@christopherconard2831]

I wondered what would happen if you did that. I've only done one Institute playthrough.

[@Cheeeseyboi]

@@christopherconard2831 it took only 1 2mm EC round to the head under the watch of X6-88 to figure it out.

[@RedDogForge]

it occurs to me this morning what the real life equivalent to the institute is.. the World Economic Forum terrifying

[@quagmoe7879]

Unfortunately the people in the WEF are probably nowhere near as intelligent as the Institute leaders. So we don’t even get the courtesy of having an intellectual totalitarian technocracy, instead we have pure idiocracy 😂

[@RedDogForge]

​@@quagmoe7879 dont make the mistake of underestimating the enemy

[@quagmoe7879]

@@RedDogForge Trust me I’m watching them like a Hawk, as best as I can I keep an eye on all independent non-corporate news coverage of their activities. I wouldn’t put anything past these wannabe totalitarians. Who knows what secrets they’re hiding already.

[@crazymammoth]

my secondary complaint and why i hate to destroy the Institute is that massive hole it creates and all the literal bridges it destroys... I'd love to get a mod that put some scrap bridges together in the newly generated world cell

[@Steel-101]

Actually the bridge you’re talking about wasn’t really used anyway. Remember there was a massive boat blocking that bridge and Raiders kept on retaking it. So people in the wasteland took safer routes. But yeah I wish we could’ve had the option to rebuild the bridge or move the boat. So I see your point.

[@tonyg.9461]

You Lost 100 Lb. Holy Crap. Keep Up The Great Work. Go You!😊

[@Korasi]

Damn. Seeing child synth shaun be so innocent was so captivating… “if he was a monster maybe its good hes gone” - just shows how people grow up innocent and their perseptions change by their surroundings. :(

[@StarlightFromAbyss]

I'm genuinely surprised you did not include Mama Murphy's epilogue dialogue. She has something to say with her Sight on every faction's ending. She paints a fairly optimistic outcome for Institute's future. Not to mention that how Institute was up until now can be changed by your, new Director's, overrule. At worst you can dedicate Minutemen to Commonwealth's security without expending Institute's resources. They're all for it either way.

[@Maddoktor2]

What a lot of people seem to miss due to it only being allowed by an installed Mod is the "Post-Game" play. The following post-game "ending" requires you siding with the Brotherhood to destroy the Institute: 1) If you've already completed the Nuka World DLC and wiped out all the Raider factions infesting it and occupied the Red Rocket there as a settlement, you can then send the child Shawn Synth there, with the intention that he now has a safe amusement park all to himself to play in to his heart's content for as long as he pleases, always creating new weapons Mods for you with the junk you bring him upon request. 2) Elder Maxon does a complete 180 with regards to the welfare of Commonwealth civilians, and dedicates the Brotherhood to cleaning out all remaining Synths, Raiders, and Super Mutants in the Commonwealth, making it a safe place to live again. Of interesting note is Maxon's attitude after he makes you his 2nd in command Sentinel, and you half-jokingly warn him that you're only a heartbeat away from being Elder now, and that he should watch his step from now on, to which he basically replies, "Oh, I will.". And, he does. These change the entire post-game dynamic, making the Brotherhood the best possible faction to join, with the only NPC pissed off at you being Dr. Li for destroying all of the Institute's irreplacable Science.

[@richardgray7480]

I still think the thing that makes most sense for the Institute's future plans revolves around the Player being an Institute experiment. Why the focus on FEV and tinkering with supermutants? Why not start it back up after Virgil leaves? Maybe they just finished the project. Because Shaun's gift to us is an FEV without the excesses, one that gives us all the cool advantages as we level up, but doesn't turn us into supermutants. This makes more sense as the better humanity (eugenics) than any plan to make synths be the new humanity. They're just robots, ie. tools. They are not the point of it all.

[@babalonkie]

"Humanity redefined" = "Humanity replaced" That's not humanity...

[@reniorjd]

Unless the end goal was the melding between human and machine

[@adrianparker5633]

What a great episode. I can’t believe everything I missed by never siding with the institute. Now…. Who does ox side with next?

[@ViceN53X]

9:05 Okay, that delivery really struck. Props to the voice actors of each sole survivor, especially Nate

[@domrich5315]

Railroad wasn't the first to inject synths with memories and experiences to believe they were human. Presumably institute did it first with Nick Valentine, though for obvious reasons Nick wasn't able to keep that illusion for long.