Clayton Power LPS2 Vs Bluetti AC200 Max Vs Victron in a MAN TGE 4x4

[@mossie1974]

Great video thanks I was most definately going for the Victron setup but am more swayed toward the 3000w Clayton unit now I will have normal led lighting and charging sockets just wandering if it will work well with the truma d6e if you can help

[@ahoyleisure]

Oh yeah it would work with the diesel version of the Truma no problem. Email me on [e-mail] for a quote as we always have good discounts on all the Clayton kit. Plenty of stock and same or next day delivery.

[@fletcherdavies8749]

Many thanks for making this video and sharing your experince of the Clayton LPS2. Planning on getting either a VW Crafter on Man next year and found this video is very useful.

[@davidcraven2408]

Very useful thanks I have a MAN TGE which i'm converting and planning to use the Clayton unit, good to hear all the items your running off battery and I love the plug and play 👍

[@ahoyleisure]

Thanks David. I replied on the MAN TGE forum too 👋 It’s exceeded everything I expected from it. And thanks for the feedback too. Makes it worth the effort. I will try and edit the fitting video for you buddy too, it will make it super quick for you. 🤙

[@davidcraven2408]

@@ahoyleisure That would be awesome thanks

[@arkstudios1]

Many thanks, looking to get one for my T6.1 LWB, going all electric, much appreciated.

[@ahoyleisure]

Ping me an email on [e-mail] and I will do a breakdown with discount for you.

[@graemecraft]

Thanks keep up the videos

[@graemecraft]

Hi looks really great system is the urban 25% discount still available . Thanks Graeme

[@ahoyleisure]

Hey Graeme, ping me an email [e-mail] and I will ensure I give you the best price in the UK. We have good stock on all items. We ship same or next day too. And i’m always happy to speak direct with customers for any advice on selecting or installing the right Clayton Power kit 🤙

[@Vanis310]

Thanks. I Ve bought the 3000 lps and going to install in my van which have already a system. But I want more power. I want 230v and I don’t want solar because I’ve got low space in the roof. Will you do a van tour ?

[@ahoyleisure]

Hey, Yeah I have a van tour and a wiring diagram video planned this month.

[@urbanarkoverland]

👍🏻 glad I inspired someone ha. The app is coming 👍🏻

[@aclarke9479]

Be interested in a overview of the install? I didn't realise that Clayton had a B2B that makes it a very interesting proposition compared to the Bluetti, Ecoflows which are stifled by the 12v charging. Nice video thanks for making the effort 🎯

[@ahoyleisure]

More content coming very soon.

[@renejr2296]

Thanks for the great video brother 👊🏾💯

[@ahoyleisure]

Cheers dude appreciate it.

[@kenmackenzie7338]

Question, could I connect a 100Ah Lithium battery to the Clayton unit on its DC input side to increase the Clayton capacity? The Lithium battery would be charged via a B2B from the Starter battery. If the Clayton is being supplied from the starter battery, then it should not matter where the Clayton gets its 12v supply from. So the idea I proposed it should be feasible.

[@ahoyleisure]

Easy Ken, I get asked this a lot but I don’t know. In theory yes that makes sense but I couldn’t give you the answer buddy.

[@kenmackenzie7338]

@@ahoyleisure This is a big plus for the Clayton unit if it is possible as you can't do this with any of the other systems unless you stripped them down and connected to the batteries inside which would negate their warranties

[@ahoyleisure]

@@kenmackenzie7338 I don’t feel they will work as it’s asked a lot and I’ve always been told to say no. And the new additional batteries are coming out soon. They look like the main unit and connect via positive negative and the screw in data cable.

[@dominicespengler]

Hey dude, really appreciate your contribution! This has been so helpful and I wish I had discovered the LPS2 before buying a Bluetti 200Max. How much solar have you got in watts? The one thing I worry about with the LPS2 is that 400W solar is a little low as input and the 50V upper bound is not very high either. Thanks :)

[@ahoyleisure]

Easy Dominic, So I get this a lot but... however...😅 I’ve got 400W (4x100) I use a mix of parallel and series to reduce the volts and the happy accident is that it reduces the solar shadow issue which is helpful too (series suffer with part shade stopping charge). More importantly for me was DCDC. It’s a huge energy source the engine and that’s where I want to utilise charge. I get get 1100w from my DCDC. The solar is just there is a top up really. Sorry Hope that didn’t sound like I was dodging the question - the short answer is utilise parallel or part parallel and drop the voltage and benefit from charging better in part shade as a bonus.

[@dominicespengler]

@@ahoyleisure Thanks a lot for the detailed response, much appreciated. The DC/DC option is indeed very good. An alright workaround for that part is to use a 110V inverter with a 110V Bluetti wall charger, which will also allow 500W of charging from the alternator (using 110V devices as 230V is just more inefficient). If needed it's also possible to use the solar input for an additional charger from the alternator -- just use a relay to change from solar charging to alternator charging with ignition. This way alternator charging can be increased to 1000W total for a Bluetti AC200Max. Since I already have the Bluetti, I will have to stick with it for now. The remaining real advantage of the LPS2 is its remarkably low standby consumption of

[@ahoyleisure]

@@dominicespengler It would be good to pick your brains really. One of the other issues I hear is that Bluetti and Ecoflow don’t do well with concurrent charge and discharge. Ie in the rory you could charge with mains, solar and alternator with an LPS. and discharge with 230 and 12v. Not that it would make sense to do so. 😂 The other small advantage is the jumpstart. I’ve recently tested it and it’s brilliant.

[@dominicespengler]

@@ahoyleisure Happy to carry on discussing. The Bluetti AC200Max has no issue with pass through charging in my experience (I don't have experience with Ecoflow). Regarding the jumpstart function, this is a nice feature. Although the way I understand it is that it will simply charge the starter battery for a while (like 10 mins at a decent amperage), correct? The way it is described online, it doesn't literally jump start from the LPS2 if the starter battery is completely drained. One way of achieving the same thing for 30 quid is to buy a 12V charger and use this to connect the Bluetti to your starter battery to charge it. It won't charge as fast (about 8ah with my charger from Lidl for example), but it works. Otherwise you'd get a litium-ion starter battery pack for about 80 quid online, which will offer immediate jump starting capabilities. The reason I am mentioning this is that this video seeks to compare the LPS2 with the Bluetti. Adding to this comparison, the Bluetti also has some advantages over the LPS 2: 1. 900W solar input with up to 145V. 2. USB-C outlet with 100W, 2x15W wireless charging, several USB-A fast-charging ports. 3. It has an App. 4. Significantly cheaper than the 3000W model of the LPS2, so you can buy a top quality inverter and jump start battery pack and still be about a grand below the LPS2 in price. 5. It can be extended by up to 6kWh (adding up to 8kWh total), which makes it more versatile. So for the same price you'd be able to have double the capacity. Still the

[@ahoyleisure]

Yeah I agree with your points buddy. Jumpstart is passing currant but all those leads are nice big chunky 16mm wire all ready. It’s nice built in feature but your right there are other thanks you can add to get you there. We are offering a huge discount so the price drops by 20% anyway which levels it out. The biggest thing is reliability and build quality. The LPS 1 and now the LPS 2 have been in contract vehicles for a long time now so are tried and tested at high numbers in very rugged and heavy use commercial conditions. Time will tell really. Dude great debate and huge respect Dominic. It’s great that the all-in-one campervan electric options are getting better and better. We can agree on that 😅🤙

[@sccobyste]

Wonder if you can use a supercharger with a Bluetti ac200

[@ahoyleisure]

Im not sure but you have me thinking!!!!