So many people saying K swapping was a bad idea... literally almost every race team Ive seen that uses s2k have moved to K series motors... F series engines are great but they are expensive and not highly avaliable... K series are literally everywhere, and their after market support is only growing.
@bige71863 жыл бұрын
And that is why the f20 is better, it’s obviously really expensive for a reason ...
@ClayWong3 жыл бұрын
K truly is the future! People are going to look back at this in five years and realise they missed the very affordable K-Series boat.
@inaNis_3 жыл бұрын
@@bige7186 uhh, it's actually because they only ever came out in the s2000. The K series has higher power potential especially when you consider k24 stroker kits can reach 2.7l of displacement, in a 4 cylinder. I know of a K tech stroker kit for the F20C which brings the motor to 2.4l... otherwise a stock K24. Without opening up the engine, and using only bolt ons and e85, the k24a2 can reach 240 hp, but the F22C usually can get to around 220-230
@bige71863 жыл бұрын
@@inaNis_ higher potential or not, just face it the mighty f20c is the superior motor all around 👍🏼 CONVERSATION OVER.
@inaNis_3 жыл бұрын
@@bige7186 Dude. If the K24 has higher potential, it's a better motor. That's what it means to be better.
@trollonme3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I want my s2k to look like. Can't wait to get started on mine.
@AnotherMotorist3 жыл бұрын
I think for most people remaining F is the way. I'm at 189k miles *knock on wood* no issues. 04/05 F22 FBO w/ greddy EMU. between me and previous owners over 60+ track days and countless touge time. If you need to get competitive, blew your motor etc. that is a whole nother thing though.
@Mchea883 жыл бұрын
F20C Still legendary, but ain’t nothing wrong with being different 🤙
@HamHavoc2 жыл бұрын
I think alot of S owners will be switching to K series. I think I will be once my engine goes out. I am at 208k miles but I keep it back in my mind so when it does go out.
@CapeFilms3 жыл бұрын
I understand if your on a budget buying a k20/24 from a wrecker or parts car but the f20/22c can’t be beat
@zokusharuuku10912 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things about the s2000 is the awesome seats that it has that this owner decided to get rid of..
@binskee6772 жыл бұрын
But those seats can‘t really hold you in place, i throw them out at swell lol
@youtubecomments5951 Жыл бұрын
S2000 seats gots to go
@Phenixzero3 ай бұрын
This body kit looks stunning!
@karlo1346523 жыл бұрын
Good lord Im in love with the aesthetics of that car.
@alstound2 жыл бұрын
I like to think the S2000 is more than just a faster MX-5. The glorious 9,000 rpm redline is what makes this car special, and you can drive it that way any day of the week. The F20 (F22 in some markets) defines this car more than any other component. Yes, the K series is powerful, reliable, available everywhere and has tons of aftermarket support, but that will pretty much just turn your S2K into a RWD convertible Civic or Accord. It can also lower its resale. You may as well get a much cheaper random Mazda roadster if you’re gonna do the swap. There’s also a folding hardtop option from the third gen onwards.
@masonvang13 жыл бұрын
That S2k is literally perfect.
@bige71863 жыл бұрын
If only it had an f series in it☹️
@tomydespins23153 жыл бұрын
@@bige7186 you are delusional
@0mniVerse7773 жыл бұрын
@@tomydespins2315 u sound like a K-fanboy
@tomydespins23153 жыл бұрын
@@0mniVerse777 simply realistic if F series was that superior it is them you will in awd swap civic and in world time attack championship … wide power band it better than peak power
@Carlitosway21110 ай бұрын
I'm still tweaking my F22 until she blows. Then I might go K series. Buuuttt. I have a J35A8 on the shelf I'm also thinking about putting in there next.
@spacewizard69r96 Жыл бұрын
320kw/430bhp supercharged here 👋🏼🏎️
@karyo41018 ай бұрын
Car still runs ac is a major flex
@kekoasawyer5162 жыл бұрын
This guy reviewed this car perfectly.
@JFomo3 жыл бұрын
Red Hondas always look the biz. Love it.
@Mochabear732 жыл бұрын
This is just a nice and beautiful S2000…
@implectic2 жыл бұрын
Someone drank the k-swap Kool-Aid. Get out of here. Lol Beautiful car
@leonsutanta6409 Жыл бұрын
What a beauty. Must be a good friend of coppers being that low 😂
@justcallmeRhys3 жыл бұрын
S2K pure sport car,the master piece。
@TofuProductionCinema2 жыл бұрын
This is so clean. MY04 is still mint but I'm terrified of boosting it.... but this is some cool shit.
@MustangFastback2 жыл бұрын
WOW that thing is beautiful
@amnosiagaming3535 Жыл бұрын
been trying to get my hands on one, and I'm sure it was in the video and I just didn't hear it, but where can I get a k24a3 engine? I live in Michigan so not a lot of car enthusiast here so i cant just go into a shop and there it is.
@bobby19703 жыл бұрын
Either engine is more than plenty good enough. It's Honda, so it's gonna be good, regardless.
@antoinewallace86982 жыл бұрын
bruh this video is so damn beautiful
@joeyriveira66972 жыл бұрын
Beautiful S2000 so much attention to detail . I know the intake from the F20 is a bolt on to the K20/24 . Is they exhaust manifold the same ??
@khmerboogietonnaboy57573 жыл бұрын
My ap2 have all bolt on and made 234whp .Fseries all the way !! And we sound better
@bige71863 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely 💪🏼
@vanlndn Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Clay! Makes me want to trade my 07 STi for an S2 T.T
@johnle69133 жыл бұрын
Lol you used the factory seat belt while the harness tucks in the back of the brides
@vitaltrina2 жыл бұрын
The truth about k20/k24 is that they are really good engines, reliable, high revving etc... they give for you and amazing feeling, but don't get mistakes, they don't pull that much, it's just that paired with a low weight car they make a phenomenal combo.. but imagine dropping a TFSI k04 engine there... minimal mods and you get 370hp xD.. i am amazed no one swaped a tfsi engine there...
@vhssociety2 жыл бұрын
You could. But it won't take nearly the abuse a k series will. You wo t even believe how strong these engines are. I have a built tsx and it still shocks me to this day how much abuse these things take. Literally the only thing you can do to kill these things is oil starvation
@vitaltrina2 жыл бұрын
@@vhssociety yeah here everyone kswaps everything, people gets 400hp no problem and abuses them track after track, they are really good engines. My toyota mr2 spyder is k24 swapped and has been 3 years of pure abuse hahaha
@gran4259 Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir could I do a K24 into my Ford Cougar . Sorry for asking but I really want to do it.
@statusquoreject3 жыл бұрын
As awesome as the k series is, an s2k is truly not an s2k without a f series under the hood
@dangerriff3 жыл бұрын
What a car!
@mervynmontague18113 жыл бұрын
Niceeee feature
@bushmanjive6314Ай бұрын
What kind of fuel 93 98 e85?
@Jwizz315 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me the name of that great starting instrumetal
@lateralbeats3 жыл бұрын
The sound is mint, but seems slow? What's the 0-100kmh?
@ruipinhal33853 жыл бұрын
Every honda engine above 1.5l have lots of potencial sometimes the mecanics dont know what they are doing,the f20c is in another level from the k24 and with the right parts and head tunned is milles way from the ks so one day i will go put in the road a really bad ass s2000 with the fc20 and run for the titles of the others with k swaps!!!!
@porkchopexpress69693 жыл бұрын
Me too brah. Me too.
@areskzc2 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree. Yes the K series is a great platform for builders and tuners. But there are so many other considerations to account before “tuning” a vehicle. As well mentioned in the video “the S2000 is a legendary car” and that status was not given just because the chassis or the roadster, also the masterpiece F20c engine. Swapping a K-series engine into the S2000 will plummet its market value. A pristine, low miles, oem s2000 can reach the 6 digits dollars in auctions. The argument of cheap parts is just for the engine, not cheap to replace body parts or interiors on and S2000 (specially the soft or hard top). Same reason why you wouldn’t K swap an NSX. So no, I would not swap a F20/F22 engine for a K series.
@dylanthomas62154 ай бұрын
if im doing a engine swap its gonna be a J series. 100 extra hp over k24 stock
@anthonyjanelle12 Жыл бұрын
The only reason to swap to a K is because of the aftermarket support and to keep the f20c in storage and not rack up miles … You can destroy a k series and they are a dime a dozen used*
@shyshydad3 жыл бұрын
isnt an f20c more or less a k-series just designed with FR in mind (not mentioning the forgies that come factory but the actual design of it)
@binskee6772 жыл бұрын
It‘s the predecessor of the K Series or so called developement engine
@Viper4ever053 жыл бұрын
whoa I didn't think you could put a k series in a RWD platform.
@jonsauce3 жыл бұрын
Done many times. You can make anything work with enough money. Check out the kseries swaps they put in ae86, wrx, even Toyota mini trucks get k20s once the 22r goes out sometimes
@elohincastillo81783 жыл бұрын
where are you guys ?
@TargetsAppear Жыл бұрын
The dude wearing jeggings
@rosinandracecars9543 жыл бұрын
if you plan on beating the shit out of the car k series wins because of availability and price point, for daily driving and weekend warrior cars, the f20 just awesome. wouldn't say to no to either power plant thought honestly. picking up an s2000 this week or next, low mile f20c prefferably
@LoveLikeaHurricane2 жыл бұрын
stay with F20 or F22. Unless you can't find one, then try the Science of Speed K20C1
@wololo10 Жыл бұрын
200 hp or whp?
@ipackage54853 жыл бұрын
What is body part this car name?
@Tony-ui8eg3 жыл бұрын
looks soo good makes me want to mod my stock oem s2k
@kingjay33013 жыл бұрын
Keep it oem as possible now bro
@mushy181003 жыл бұрын
Save the F!
@moustachio3343 жыл бұрын
More like save the S. More S2000’s are getting ripped up and torn apart daily. Fucking voltex bodykits and volk te37’s everywhere. F series is still king and Real St proved it with their record setting S2000. Variable cam timing has no effect on a track car anyways.
@bige71863 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@JacesOwnWorld3 жыл бұрын
6:42-6:46 "Oh My God, listen to the sound of this K-series engine". Bro, it sounds like a regular 4cyl Civic...
@repingers97773 жыл бұрын
lmao in that clip yeah. This swap doesn't make much sense to me 🤨
@fernandocadena26256 ай бұрын
1:24 look factory mud flaps
@KuostA3 жыл бұрын
Says 'voltex wing', shows APR wing lawl
@p1fly3 жыл бұрын
What camera is used to film this? The picture quality is phenomenal!
@OGBastard13379 ай бұрын
What body kit is that those front fenders seem wider
@sonnynguyen85702 жыл бұрын
F20 🙌
@08254112373 жыл бұрын
That s2k must fly!
@Bruceillest1013 жыл бұрын
Of you are going to swap another 4 banger into the s2k might as well go for the turbo k20C1 from the type r
@k20ringracer23 жыл бұрын
what an epic car. would love some track action !
@MustangBence3 жыл бұрын
awesome!
@beachbarlouie3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of nice features on that build. Does it have under body aerodynamics? There is a a whole kit for that?
@Wallstreetavarice11 ай бұрын
Putting a k-series into an s2000 without a blown F-series is just stupid. Unless you plan on saving the original engine for the sake of collector value (which a car that has been swapped and km'd out isn't going to have), I don't see the reason with one caveat: you ONLY care about horsepower, and plan on blowing up your k-series at some point, at which point having a cheaper motor to replace makes sense.
@bige71863 жыл бұрын
NEVER F20C stays in my S2000 for good 😎 just sounds unique unlike any other Honda motor..
@bwmcdonald963 жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@scottgardner59183 жыл бұрын
Agree 👍
@ClayWong3 жыл бұрын
Love the F20C but it’s very cool to see something different and unique being done!☺️
@soloacabrera25833 жыл бұрын
if i owned a s2k I would preserve the engine in the garage and keep blowing up k20 engines lol then finnaly when I garage queen the car Put back the F20C if I was in your guys path .
@scottgardner59183 жыл бұрын
@@soloacabrera2583 blow up a k20? I have tried. Lol. Not actually easy to do.
@Mrvibargeboy3 жыл бұрын
Love the K series, but I would only do the swap if I blew the f20/22. The F is KINDA like a built K from factory. its just special.
@youtubecomments59512 жыл бұрын
@@Ahsangill19 no it isn’t. Spend 10k on upgrades to either motor. Better yet 15k. Who makes more and better power.
@youtubecomments59512 жыл бұрын
@@mugengt142 first off every dyno is different and sea level is different. It’s common knowledge that you can’t get more power out of a f20/22c motor as easily as you can from a k series. And let’s not talk about each engines max power. Cause obviously more cc will give you more power. If the s2000 had a choice between k20a2 and f20c. Then I know which motor I’m going with. K20 will make more torque just because ivtec. Better powerband. It would respond better to bolt ons. And surpassing a f20c with bolt ons. Then once you get into building the engine. The k will blow away the f.
@youtubecomments59512 жыл бұрын
@@mugengt142 It has nothing to do with being broke or not. You have millionaires that spend money on everything and there are millionaires that always count their pennies. And you got broke people doing the same thing.
@NitroNuggetTV2 жыл бұрын
@@youtubecomments5951 you're missing the fact that stock for stock they're not that different. Most people will only ever do bolt-on's and a tune at most and be completely content, let alone dump 15k into one or want to swap an entire engine. You'd have to offset the cost, time and complication of swapping a K series before you can even start comparing the two engines, and at that point most people find the cost per performance hard to justify, even when the K series is undoubtedly superior as an engine. None of this stops the F series from still being a damn good engine. The k swap is really only for people who are serious about peak performance.
@youtubecomments59512 жыл бұрын
@@NitroNuggetTV ok I’ll say this then. The k20 is a better platform to start out with and I’ll say again. If the s2000 had a choice of a f20/22 k20/24. I’d go k series all day. So bottom line. The k is a better motor
@edventures98843 жыл бұрын
Damn that s2k’s paint looks brand new! 🔥
@Basics_of_Gameology3 жыл бұрын
So clean!
@Loukisi903 жыл бұрын
I would personally go the FI route with supercharger instead of k swapping. F series seems such a good match to the s2000 chassis. An engine that only came on a specific car says a lot. And really you can't beat the OEM plus look. Good build though
@ClayWong3 жыл бұрын
Love all the different styles of modifications for these S2000’s!👌🏻
@bige71863 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said 👏👍🏼
@ArtVandelayOfficial3 жыл бұрын
Well F series isn't specific to S2K , it's a derivative of the fwd prelude and accord engines...
@kingjay33013 жыл бұрын
@@ArtVandelayOfficial different kinds bro
@justinmurphy71733 жыл бұрын
@@ArtVandelayOfficial only thing the same is the letter.
@dudamara2 жыл бұрын
I am still in love with the F20C. 9000rpm is intoxicating and visceral. TBC still gives me a much more connected feel than the later F22 DBW. I regret the day I sold my 02 AP1. I kept track of it and one of the new owners totalled it :(
@lazybullitz38212 жыл бұрын
Built k24s spin to 10k no problem
@ulisesavila28792 жыл бұрын
@@lazybullitz3821 i doubt it, a k24 7k rpm has piston speed higher than k20 8k rpm, unless destroked even if built that k24 is not going to last that long
@lazybullitz38212 жыл бұрын
@@ulisesavila2879 you must not know much bruh tbh. There is a whole class of cars doing that in the 7's. I think some guys are spinning them to 11k with all billet motors
@binskee6772 жыл бұрын
Spoon F20C‘s rev to 11k rpm
@samjackson18183 жыл бұрын
Such a great engine the k series is especially when turbocharged or ITB, the F series is impressive as well I read somewhere you can get 600-700 hp out of it with stock internals. I don’t know what I would do if I had a s2k keep the F series or go for the K 🤔.
@foster75173 жыл бұрын
i made 600hp on stock unopened engine with e85 an a precision 6262...only payed 12k for the s2k with a metal widebody
@NathanCAY10102 жыл бұрын
Ye i took a interest in the F20C cause wanted to place it in a DC2 and ye their internals come forged from factory so you can run 30psi on a stock F20C block if i'm not mistaken and that's pretty cool
@Boostisablast2 жыл бұрын
I made 615whp on c16 and 515whp everything stock besides injectors, clutch, and a full race kit. Made it 4 years of abuse without issue then a head gasket went.
@omgfroobynoobs Жыл бұрын
There's guys pushing 950whp with just valve springs and head studs on f22c1 stock block. You definitely need to have a good tuner.
@TheJDM6263 жыл бұрын
Naw I'll pass. I'll keep my f20c. Stock 9000 rpm. K20 are everywhere . F20 are not. Regardless f20 sounds good
@IdeasDontBounce Жыл бұрын
Fully built k series making 171kw of power? Wow. Would've kept the f20c lol
@crxvtec00693 жыл бұрын
The F series is superior to the K in stock form in every way. I feel like swapping it out kinda takes away from what the s2000 is and was intended for. The fastest s2000 in the entire world is an f series engine. And there’s so much support for rebuilds of the f series now, there’s literally no reason to go to a k series. Plus, here in Cali we have to stay smog legal so a f series engine swap won’t work. But cool video ✌🏻✌🏻 we will keep our f series alive! We’re a die hard bunch of gear heads that own the s2000.
@sundaydriver21173 ай бұрын
i know im late but like for the price of k swapping and adding performance parts to it versus keeping the original engine and adding performance parts to it it sounds like youd probably be better off keeping the original engine and be able to add more performance parts to it instead of paying to swap the engine first. like if there was a budget challenge to use only 15k to get the best performance out of these cars the one that didnt get engine swapped would have higher performance because youd have more money to spend on the actual upgrades versus swapping in an engine first. by that point i think youd just be able to spend a little extra on finding a way to make the original engine more powerful and more reliable with the right parts anyways
@PuReGhOsTT3 жыл бұрын
im good. ill keep my F20C :) best engine ever
@richardledesma16753 жыл бұрын
I think the f series is right at home, I’d k swap an NA, NB Miata though!
@anon1363 жыл бұрын
Been trying to decide if I want a k24 NB or a k24 ft86
@jamarward84373 жыл бұрын
Same
@scottgardner59183 жыл бұрын
@@anon136 I think you just need both. I'll borrow the one you're not driving. Lol.
@jarraddavies83293 жыл бұрын
This is why I’m here as I was going to ls1 swap my nb, but I think I’m sold on this
@richardledesma16753 жыл бұрын
@@anon136 that I swapped 86 would be so fire and unique!
@ken31372 жыл бұрын
I'm going to love mine since it's built, forged, cammed and built by 4 Pistons. The engine cost more than the s2000 R title shell, then there's turbo parts on top of that cost. Woo! It's going to be a good summer!
@muhdsyakir9502 Жыл бұрын
damn where can i follow you on ig to get updates on your build ?
@rexmikakka3 жыл бұрын
the production quality of this video was incredible
@marshallcrawford39173 жыл бұрын
I had the option of k swap or F24 motor from inline pro… chose inline pro stroker sleeved 2.4 L
@AlistairLattimore3 жыл бұрын
That car looks killer, paint is ultra glossy and sounds amazing :)
@brunomanco75293 жыл бұрын
I allways considered this comparation unfair. U are comparing the same gearbox with a k24/k20 that has more hp with "shorter gearing". To compare same engine and gearbox capability u should compare something like: f20c with 4.7 fd; f22c with 4.55 fd; k24/20 with a 3.8 fd. The only direct comparation i had was the k24/k20 head (all stock with dc5 cams) vs f20c, both with the same gearbox. Of course k24 wins hands down because it has less top speed but more aceleration. But put a 4.7 final drive or even shorter in the f20c and compare again
@igvtec3 жыл бұрын
I got a few things this past year from elusive racing for my EG sedan Civic b18c2 build. 😎👍
@sktaroins3 жыл бұрын
What's your fb or Instagram would like to see your build
@foster75173 жыл бұрын
id say k swap if u plan on racing just cuz there cheaper but i made 600hp on my stock unopened f22 with just e85 an a 6262 precision turbo...it was insane an sounded like an f1 car
@fairiesflame1345 Жыл бұрын
Really good. I hope one day I get an S2000 and enjoy the F20C first, probably with the AP2 transmission. If the F20C gets blown, I'd definitely swap with a K24.
@brianmaton3 жыл бұрын
Im building an LS turbo mustang currently but the next project I do will most likely be a k series swap. Such a clean and compact motor with great potential. This s2k looks phenomenal, great build 👍🏻
@benlevey19763 жыл бұрын
How has it affected the weight distribution? Honda spent a lot of time mounting the original engine just right.
@scottgardner59183 жыл бұрын
I was wondering that too with the front engine mid mount design being essentially part of the magic of the chassis and great handling. The k24 has to be substantially heavier. Would cause understeer. In theory.
@slothgarage48463 жыл бұрын
They don't weigh that much different and the K24 is mounted in the same position/angle as the F20, I don't think it upsets the weight distribution at all
@tomydespins23153 жыл бұрын
My k24 is the same weight around than my b18c5 that I had in my EM1 pretty they weight around the same
@bjornsama96493 жыл бұрын
I've driven a tuned k24 s2k and driven a lot of stock S2k's. doesn't beat the F series.
@youtubecomments59513 жыл бұрын
I smell ssss
@JmouaRUAM2 жыл бұрын
I smell 🧢🧢
@DEIYIAN3 жыл бұрын
Feeling proud of my 2001 Stream with k20a under the bonnet and happy as hell 4 years now. The best family guy's car possible. I call it Shinkansen ;-P Funny, spacious, reliable, trouble-free, stands out in the crowd.
@peterc31433 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted a s2000 Honda. Great looking car.
@jeffhallii79073 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen someone soooo excited to drive a k-series 😵💫
@noahstockdall59853 жыл бұрын
All these questions about the build, but you never asked why bruh tucks his ears into his hat?
@adamwg65593 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@darkknight0972 жыл бұрын
Only way I'm swapping in a k24 over my f22 is if it blows. Something about swapping a Honda odyssey engine in an s2k just doesn't seem right to me lol
@AndrewChauFitness2 жыл бұрын
awesome video bro - first video I've seen from you in a while and I'm so proud of how far you've come in terms of video quality, content, presentation and overall presence. well done bro Can't wait to see you explode even more bros
@BlueRice3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone recognized k series is better and has better potential than f series. F series is good by no means. It's bullet proof but k series has better tuning capabilities and better torque band from low to high.
@ArtificialMazeАй бұрын
Had Mazda RX8 with K20Z4 was super awesome, way better than Wankel 🤣
@cidfacetious372210 ай бұрын
It’s not cheaper if you add in the cost of the swap itself you’re already out five to 6K you can have a reliable 500 hp F-series for that kind of money. Know if money is no object to you then yeah I would agree. The K-series probably is the battery engine if you’re trying to build it.
@2K8Si3 жыл бұрын
I always laugh when I see the YT auto captions describing the K engine as 'music' when it's running.... LMAO.
@johnlountzis66782 жыл бұрын
If you respect the legendary S2000 and yourself as an s2000 owner,you should never k swap!!
@raidacaipo2 жыл бұрын
F20c is a special engine. If you can save it, rebuild it and keep it. It's like the type R engines.. K swaps are everywhere. Not special at all
@aarr26032 жыл бұрын
K20 might be a better engine and produce way more power with mods specially in a NA set up where the f20 is pretty much maxed out. But I still love the f20/f22 it has its own sound that I love, unless it blows maybe I’ll consider a k20/24.
@asraful-asif2 жыл бұрын
Where are you from this car is amazing
@TKnzSteele11 ай бұрын
Everyone talking about the my man putting the k24 inside the s2k nobody talking about my man putting his ears inside his cap, its weird
@itsjustniko93232 жыл бұрын
Check out Eric Jarvis from mad scientist auto and his billet K24 compound turbo S2k. It's a absolute ripper