CLEANEST Motovlog Audio Setup Pt.II | ZOOM H1N Recorder Settings and Synchronization

Episode 37
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Finally Part 2 is here! Today I am sharing my Zoom H1N Settings with you as I continually look for ways to improve the quality of these videos. I hope this helps answer some questions I have been receiving in regards to recording with a separate recorder.
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[@DoodleOnAMotorcycle]

OH MY GAWWWD I AM EDITING MY VIDEO FOR THIS FRIDAY USING THESE TIPS AND I FINALLY HAVE THE BEST SOUND I’VE EVER HAD IN MY 4 YEARS ON KZbin!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOUUUUUUUU

[@TryItWithTim]

Been a fan of your channel for some time and I would say it even inspired me to create my channel, and its an honor to have been able to help you out! Super stoked!! and Im looking forward to seeing your next video, Ride safe Doodle !

[@JeremyKroeker]

@@TryItWithTim I found your channel when I asked Doodle about her audio for moto vlogs. Thanks for the tips ... lots of stuff to learn.

[@TryItWithTim]

@@JeremyKroeker awesome bro! thanks for stopping by, subbed to your channel looks pretty cool! Let me know if I can help ya with anything.

[@popmosmoke6844]

Honestly one of the most cinematic and cleanest shots so far on the Harley/Cruiser scene on youtube. Great stuff!

[@TryItWithTim]

Appreciate it Miguel! That means a lot :)

[@HennessyBoss]

As a fellow motovlogger , i find this video very informative and to the point

[@TryItWithTim]

i was hoping to help other creators with this video

[@Supermankev2001]

Tim your videos always blow my mind you are such a good youTuber. You always have such cinimatic videos . Great advice here .This is why I do voice overs mostly sound has been my most challenging .

[@TryItWithTim]

Thanks Kev! I had a lot of fun making this one. Always looking forward to your videos as well! Voice overs are still good because they sound more polished.

[@MrKoboijawa]

Thank God I found this video. Finally got my Zoom H1N and experimented a lot with the device without the external mic. Ended up putting it in my jean pocket. Still able to get a descent sound but will definitely try an external mic after this.

[@mrkthmn]

Not one comment about the F430 on the street from about 8:00 to 8:18. I know this is a moto vid but I'm guess I'm the only Car/Moto hybrid thats been here, haha! Anyway, I appreciated the Final Cut tips at the end. I had no idea you could do that with the clips/audio. Thanks!

[@TryItWithTim]

Lol I just noticed that after you pointed it out . I only look for other motorcycles when I’m riding lol

[@trailruntim]

Came here via Doodle. Being a fellow Tim, I gotta subscribe 😀

[@TryItWithTim]

Doodle is the BEST! We Tim's need to stick together, I appreciate your support!!

[@SpringVinMoto]

Thanks for showing us your set up. It is so hard to get good audio in loud environments. What happened @8:20 When you said "hard" i hear clipping.

[@TryItWithTim]

Hey no probs. Yea it’s a fine balance with the Harley because the exhaust is loud so if I turn the mic down too low I don’t get my voice.

[@SpringVinMoto]

@@TryItWithTim Do you think it is the mic being overloaded or did it clip the recorder? I'm having trouble finding a mic that can handle the high spl of my Ducati and wind.

[@TryItWithTim]

It’s a combination of things. I find that mic placement is important make sure it’s pointed towards your mouth. For the mic volume on the recorder I find that between 5-7 gives me good audio. When your speaking, speak in normal voice that you set the audio at. Sometimes since it’s loud I tend to yell into the mic and then it clips. Lastly I would recommend a better mic. The current mic I have requires a small battery but the quality is great. I would suggest unidirectional mic over an omnidirectional. Also make sure your using the dead cat windscreen on the mic.

[@BlueSea_72]

Great video brother. I was sick or GoPro audio issues. I grabbed one of these audio recorders today. Hope this helps.

[@joshualloyd6694]

When you were talking round 6:40 the audio sounded muffled. Is that just because of your helmit?

[@TryItWithTim]

Yes it could have also been the Mic as well. Since I made this video, I picked up a new microphone. The purple panda, and it seems to sound a lot better.

[@johanchalco5117]

Love it my bro. Good info and great vid and sound quality.

[@TryItWithTim]

Thank you Johan! Always trying to improve in every video.

[@IronBornRider]

Great job on this video Tim! Very helpful, might have to look into picking up a zoom

[@TryItWithTim]

IronBornRider thank you for watching bro glad it was helpful!

[@Invis_Space]

Hey man thanks for the tips. Could you answer one question though? What’s the clicking/crackling sounds we can hear between @4:50 & @5:05

[@TryItWithTim]

Could be two things, my gain was set too high causing distortion or my mic wasn’t tucked in and catching some wind 💨

[@Invis_Space]

Try It With Tim what a gent! Instant response. Just got an H1n recently for making some private memories in the mountains. Took it out today and found it was making decent amounts of clicking. The rest of the audio sounded great! Might try your wind sock suggestion next then. Can that noise be removed post production? Very new tj this so I think you for taking the time to read and reply 🙏🏻 peace and respect from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@TryItWithTim]

@@Invis_Space Haha thanks! The gain setting is important, make sure whatever your recording does not peak over -12. Also for wind try the low cut setting. The wind sock helps a lot. For vlogging I set my gain between 3-4. And ambient stuff in the forest can be higher. As far as removing the clicks, There may be a way but it reduces the quality overall, if I find the link to the video that explains it I’ll link it for you. What were you recording ?

[@Invis_Space]

Try It With Tim Hey man, ok gunna try all this. Thanks for your feedback. Really helps! I’m recording an S1000R on some scottish mountain roads 🙊

[@TryItWithTim]

@@Invis_Space if your just recording engine noise try placing the recorder in a bag or under your seat

[@gamasierra]

I don't know why didn't I think of using the horn before hahaha great tip man!

[@RobertsIslandLivingAdventures]

Lots of room on the streets there. Nice ride. I’m going to have to try your setup.

[@TryItWithTim]

Definitely plenty of room to ride out here but I would love to ride in other countries and in the jungle. Setup works great, ride safe!

[@RobertsIslandLivingAdventures]

@@TryItWithTim ....you sure are welcome here, once they let people in again. 👍🤷‍♂️

[@24james]

Here because of Doodle. Trying to get the right sound setup for my 2020 R6 here in LA🏍🦾🇺🇸

[@TryItWithTim]

Awesome thanks for stopping by! Let me know if there’s anything you need help with....recording your voice or engine?

[@24james]

@@TryItWithTim Hey Tim, voice for just my own personal vlogging. I thought I would go for a relatively low cost start up with a GoPro 5 on my helmet. Now I find out to use an external mic, to get better sound, I need to get a GoPro external mic adapter. The $50 is a bit of a pain...but the thing is HUGE, Comparatively speaking to the Hero 5.

[@TryItWithTim]

Nice, I use to have that set up as well with the adaptor and then you need to get a special cage to house the go pro and adapter. You can also just use double sided adhesive to stick adaptor to helmet. The adaptor is good if you want convenience, you won’t have to worry about syncing your audio just hit record. The H1N recorder is good because it lets you dial in your settings but at the same time takes a little extra time to sync, but also your helmet won’t be so bulky. You can also use the recorder to capture engine noise and other things. I have a GoPro 8 as my main and the great thing about that is there is a media mod accessory that allows you to plug in a 3.5 mm directly into it.

[@robindogra2258]

Hey! I have a question, generally, on long rides we keep GoPro turning off and on according to the scenery or need... so what do you do in a situation like this? do you keep the audio recorder turned on and record the whole time riding or do you keep the recorder turned off and on?

[@TryItWithTim]

Great question ! I’ve run into this issue and the last long trip this is what I did. I left the recorder running and Once it got scenic I would start recording with the gopro. I would then open and close my helmet visor to give me a good sound to sync to. The other alternative would be to turn the audio recorder on and record same time as gopro but that takes more moving around. But using the visor as a syncing sound worked out. Hope this helps

[@robindogra2258]

@@TryItWithTim perfect thanks alot bro!

[@Samhakdong_Tiger]

It was very helpful to watch the video and follow it slowly. Thank you very much.

[@TryItWithTim]

anytime!

[@sandi_espi]

thank you for the information. nice audio . super clean audio for motovlog

[@virginiatrailcameravideos]

Good video-thank you. I just bought a zoom h1n. I've been experimenting but my voice still sounds "jumpy" to me. I have used the same settings you're using and I have found the best placement is clipped on the front inside the helmet pretty much in front of my mouth. I sound "nervous" like my voice is jumpy. To me, it doesn't even sound like me at times. It's weird.

[@TryItWithTim]

Nice i need to try that location! As for the jumpy voice it could be the vibrations from the bike or the wind coming in. Also try annunciating more and exaggerating your mouth movements and lips when you speak in the helmet. I find that this helps because if you speak normal all the vibrations and wind can give it that buzzy sound. So “say it with your chest” lol

[@r12rtpilot]

Tim, one more question for you.....when I am on a long ride, and I am shooting many short clips, how do I synch? I can see if I am taking one ride, and shooting one clip, the hand clap works great....but when I have lots of clips of video and sound? Do you have any tips that might help?

[@thomasnlbeisser9925]

Same here, any solution?

[@YBGuy]

Wow,this sounds pretty good. Nice setup!

[@TryItWithTim]

Thanks!

[@N3PRO-Dave]

I'm here because of @doodle on a motorcycle . Thanks for the tips!

[@TryItWithTim]

I'm here because of Doodle as well :) She motivates me to continue vlogging, thanks for visiting the page and checking out the video!

[@MotoMengy]

Very nice audio setup! I've been simply using the built in Hero 8 mic so far and its working well for me but I'm going to play around with my lav mic and a recorder to see if I can improve it at all. Your setup rocks.

[@TryItWithTim]

Thank you! You record your voice with just the built in mic? You must have to scream through the helmet? Also for the GoPro 8., check out the Media Mod.

[@MotoMengy]

@@TryItWithTim I wear an open face helmet and have my Hero 8 mounted right by my chin, so it actually works better than you'd think!

[@James-uz9se]

1:20 “Lapel microphone” what is that?

[@TryItWithTim]

Lapel Microphone is basically a small mic

[@Whiteouts007]

thankyou so much bro, very helpful gonna got this next week

[@TryItWithTim]

Glad I could help!

[@nezoskiXOU]

Hello my friend very nice video !! What program is used for synchronise audio and video ?thanks

[@TryItWithTim]

I use Final Cut Pro, but any video software will work. To sync make sure you clap in the beginning of the footage. You then match those clap sounds in the video editing software

[@dhruvthukral7]

Can I do sync on Ipad M2 Chip FCP ?

[@podgeonamotorcycle2401]

Hi Tim, can I ask a question, I have the zoom 1hn same as you, how do you get the audio files from the sd card onto a MacBook or iPad Pro? My lightening cable only works for pictures and videos, any help would be most appreciated.. cheers

[@TryItWithTim]

Hi Podge, of course! I have a MacBook Pro and I use a dongle to download the files off the SD card directly. I got this cool adaptor off Amazon that allows you to plug in multiple USB ports and both mini and regular size sd cards. The dongle adaptor plugs in the lightning port

[@TryItWithTim]

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[@podgeonamotorcycle2401]

@@TryItWithTim legend. Cheers Tim. I’ll get it. Mega videos btw, I am just starting out so all help and advice is appreciated. Thanks

[@LifeTrod]

I use final cut also. Kool tips bro.

[@TryItWithTim]

Glad I could help!

[@ntonio1]

Hi. What records the sound of the motorcycle exhaust?

[@TryItWithTim]

The Same recorder that captures my voice. The exhaust is loud enough too be heard through the helmet

[@ntonio1]

@@TryItWithTim thx;) interesting... because I would say the microphone inside the helmet will be too weak to catch the sound of the exhaust. I wonder if, for example, a double microphone would work, one in the helmet to catch voice and the other somewhere near the exhaust. Have you tryied ?

[@TryItWithTim]

@@ntonio1 Have not tried that. Interesting idea tho!

[@ntonio1]

I am thinking more and more about your solution, but just about the double microphone ... and after a year do you still think that this is the best way. zoom + microphone? do you have something else now ?;) my first movie from the tour is on the GoPro microphone .... quality of course, you know how;) tragic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaXUqp2pfLx6rdU

[@TryItWithTim]

@@ntonio1 Yea the zoom and microphone is my go to solution and rarely fails. There are always going to be better recorders you can purchase and also the microphone matters. I find a unidirectional microphone sounds the cleanest for voice compared to an omnidirectional. I think it would be too much work to run a double mic through one recorder. I think at the end of the day you either try to capture your voice well and if you want engine noise, record it separate. The motorcycle youtubers with the best sounding engine noise are capturing that separately. The next upgraded recorder would be the zoom h4n (great for exhaust recording)

[@GusDaCosta]

Love your videos! You should have more subs...

[@TryItWithTim]

Much appreciated! Slowly but surely!

[@Ryzza5]

Have you progressed to recording intercom audio?

[@TryItWithTim]

Not yet but thats something I want to learn how to do

[@AnthonyJoh]

How would you turn on the recorder while you're riding? I'm also looking at using an external recorder but the main issue I see is that it can't be easily turned on and off while I'm actually riding.

[@TryItWithTim]

I usually record everything from the start and stop it when I reach my destination or pull over to start/stop it. Other option if you must record while on the go is have the recorder settings all dialed in and place it somewhere you can easily turn on. Next have your GoPro set to start recording when you press the record button so it will turn on and stop recording right away and turn off with one push of the record button. So when your ready, start recording on the GoPro and the audio recorder. And you can use the closing and shutting noise of your helmet visor to act as a syncing clap. Hope this helps

[@virginiatrailcameravideos]

Would be cool to see where you put this in your helmet

[@TryItWithTim]

It takes some experimenting to find the right location. But generally I place the microphone between the cheek pad and shell of the helmet (left or right side) angled towards my mouth. Most the microphone is stuffed in the cheek pad to protect from wind noise. Depending if you have an omnidiretional mic or unidirectional mic, make sure the part that captures audio is facing your mouth.

[@84cleancut]

Your sissy bar which one is is that you have I know you linked the guy who makes it. But which is the exact one do you have

[@TryItWithTim]

I have the pointed traveler sissy bar. You will see mines looks slightly different. I have two sissy bars fused together.

[@84cleancut]

Try It With Tim I want that it’s dope.. do the same for my 2020 softail slim. Did you ask him to do that? And how can I go about getting the same?

[@TryItWithTim]

@@84cleancut Interesting story is that it was designed like this on accident Lol. I had a different vision for it, I wanted a space between the two bars so I could fasten two sissy bar bags on each one if I wanted to. I guess I wasnt clear on that so he welded them together and didnt leave a space. But if you like this design just send him the link to this video and tell him you want the double sissy bar. Everyone loves the style even though it was accidental lol

[@TryItWithTim]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eofQZ6N6jJuMoNk This video, and ask for the original double sissy bar design he made for Tim.

[@84cleancut]

Try It With Tim thank you

[@r12rtpilot]

Great video and it really helped. Alas, I am a noobie with noobie questions...Do you normally start your videos from a stopped position, clap, and then just edit that part out on a normal ride? I will be using a Go Pro Hero 7 black that I plan on mounting under the chin. Do you have any issues with starting the GP while you are moving? Thanks so much-liked and subscribed.

[@TryItWithTim]

Hello and thank you. If I am recording with the zoom, then I like to start my GoPro and Recorder before I get on the bike, and sync it with 2-3 handclaps (edit out afterwards). No issues starting the GoPro while moving, sometimes its hard to feel the button with your glove. My GoPro is set so when its turned off, I press record button once, it turns on and starts recording automatically. Best of luck with your setup :)

[@r12rtpilot]

@@TryItWithTim Tim, thanks so much for your response. This video is so well done and easy to understand. One more question: Wouldn't it be much simpler to simply record the video, take out the ambient road noise, and add narration to your video in post production? This would eliminate a speaker wire, audio recorder, and having to synch? I am a noobie and use iMovie to process my videos. Do you ever just use voice over? Really interested in your opinions. Thanks!

[@TryItWithTim]

@@r12rtpilot Great question, I use voice overs quite a bit if you check out my videos. There is a certain element of spontaneity when your vlogging from the motorcycle and talking about the things you see as they are happening. And the time you save from just pressing record is time you will pay later when your sitting through hours of go pro footage adding in your narration. I think voice over is a good element for story telling and giving context, and vlogging from the motorcycle gives a different feeling. A lot of people use voice over only and combine riding footage and other shots to tell a complete story. At the end of the day both options will work. Hope this helps, but if you watch some of my other videos especially in the adventure category you will see how I switch between the two.

[@echo.motion]

Awesome video! Very informative!

[@TryItWithTim]

Fo sho! Glad it was helpful :)

[@ruimarques1859]

I’ve tried this for me… i cant get rid of the wind noise.

[@TryItWithTim]

is this at highway speeds?

[@ruimarques1859]

@@TryItWithTimlow speeds to… 30 miles os enough for wind noise. I’ve tried to insert the Mic behind the lateral Helmet protetion, it helps but the Voice turns very bad.

[@leatherspacesuit6540]

What kinda settings do you have on the zoom. Like the recording format and hz

[@TryItWithTim]

96K 24 Bit / .wav

[@leatherspacesuit6540]

@@TryItWithTim nice one thanks for getting back to me man. Really appreciate it

[@TryItWithTim]

@@leatherspacesuit6540 anytime

[@revitralph84]

I clicked subscribed the moment I heard fishing!

[@TryItWithTim]

Thanks bro! I’m thinking of doing some fishing videos on here . Ride and fish

[@revitralph84]

I did that a couple of times. The ride was good...but got skunked a couple of times as well. 😅 But I will be looking forward to those videos bro.

[@84cleancut]

Great content

[@TryItWithTim]

Thank you!

[@mustbescud]

What jacket is that?

[@TryItWithTim]

The REV'IT OFFTRACK JACKET

[@mustbescud]

@@TryItWithTim Thanks man. Love the content

[@TryItWithTim]

@@mustbescud appreciate that, anytime!

[@mustbescud]

@@TryItWithTim Got the jacket man. Cycle gear had it on sale. And wow, for the price, you get so much features on the jacket, w/ armor included. $ well spent. Ty

[@TryItWithTim]

@@mustbescud Awesome! Glad I was able to help you find the right jacket. I’ve bought several jackets and that one is my favorite. You can wear it all year the warm liner is so good and in the summer you can zip those chest pockets down and snap them secure

[@suryagurung7793]

Hi man! I'm planning to get the zoom h1n too and I was wondering if it can record with the built in stereo mic and the attached lapel mic at the same time. And if it can, does it do it on two separate tracks or a single one?

[@TryItWithTim]

I don’t believe it has that function. Are you trying to capture engine noise and voice at the same time?

[@suryagurung7793]

@@TryItWithTim Engine noise, or ambient noise rather, and my talking voice over it.

[@drixm9358]

do you just put the zoom in your pocket?

[@TryItWithTim]

Sup Drix, yea I keep it in my chest pocket and I make sure I lock the buttons after so I don’t accidentally press a button once I start recording

[@drixm9358]

@@TryItWithTim Thanks! ride safe! I might start off with my phone's audio recording while saving up for a zoom.

[@TryItWithTim]

@@drixm9358 that’s actually a great idea!

[@Soulriderpowder]

How did u get so much view

[@mehrannaavid5001]

Hello, nice video 😊. I have a question. Would be very nice if you answer me. I have Zoom H4n Hello, nice video 😊. I have a question. Would be very nice if you answer me. I bought Zoom H4n pro new, honestly I have no idea 🙃, maybe you can give me a setting tip? For motorcycle. I drive a thank you in advance

[@SoyLeyenda69]

and where is the sound of the moto? .....

[@Rei-wr3cs]

Who's here because of Doodle?? 🙋

[@TryItWithTim]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@JeremyKroeker]

Yup. That's how I found Tim.