Cleetus.. ProLine Racing.. Mullets Engine.. Here's The Deal?

[@CleetusM]

All jokes aside the drama that we didn’t even create has gotten both channels quite a bit of extra views 😂

[@Wesmoon87]

Gotta love when a plan comes together. Even as an accident 😂

[@pmiller7886]

All of it works to help both channels, works for me Cleet.

[@BigblackRN84]

It's all a matter of perspective 😅 I'm still gonna watch both channels!

[@ryurc3033]

Ain't that just the KZbins for ya. Just like on shorts specifically created to make people angry and comment. Engagement, even negative engagement in the comments definitely has an effect in the algorithm. Little drama, and everyone will talk about it for a week, soak up them extra views.

[@The_Chosen_None_]

Some people live in reality TV land and don't understand how dynamic relationships work in real life. Good for more views though I guess 😂 👍

[@Larfinkle]

Any engine that can mostly survive the Cleetus Maintenance and Race program is a winner. It's that simple.

[@geniferteal4178]

As long as it has oil in it😅

[@wobblysauce]

Oh it has oil... just not alot of it.

[@Thomamps]

It's the test program that kills. How many passes without anyone noticing no second gear?

[@KeithHeinrich]

McFarlane R&D will find the limits of anything and everything. Your money back if we can't break it.

[@DANG-DRIFTERS]

@@geniferteal4178 diesel is oil right/

[@kennethfeld6639]

Good Lord - 2 different engines for 2 different things - Cleetus has addressed this as well - People need to chill out

[@lgun1]

But they won't because some people enjoy starting rumors.

[@ryandevriendt1324]

when you understand that everyone has there own speciality then it’s not problem people just creating attention to themself to get a reaction from them they do need to take a chill pill

[@danmyers9372]

Well people who live and die KZbin don’t understand someone going away from one of their KZbin heroes..

[@JonHop1]

​@@ryandevriendt1324 Steve builds dry deck too tho, and it would be nice to have loyalty. Garrett is not some professional. He does a few events each year..

[@JamesTK]

@@JonHop1what part about Steve doesn’t offer a pro mod Hemi did you miss?

[@carltrano1325]

The fact that you even have to bring up the relationship between you and Cletus pretty much cements the fact that social media is the devil. Obviously you are a fantastic engine builder.

[@SportbikerNZ]

Imagine the characters of people who try to ferment this stuff, hurt people's businesses and lives in general. Complete dregs.

[@classiestbogan]

You can't blame a tool for what people do with it.

[@NFBartos]

27:46 that little sequence of f-ups had me cracking up 🤣. Glad to see you're human like the rest of us

[@billgaudette5524]

@NFBartos LOL that socket is gone until they move out! Almost lost a wrench, too...

[@tededonthugback]

I was going to say, you lost a socket behind your toolbox!

[@micron3268]

Thats where I would've lost my temper so bad, I would have had to scrap that footage!🤣

[@rektiumstuff3245]

27:54 say goodbye to the deepsocket 10mm

[@hreed7742]

@@rektiumstuff3245 Haha here we see the natrualy skittish nature of a 10mm socket as it flees back into the wild.

[@troy-from-cjrc]

I can vouch 100% that Mullet wasn't designed to be pushed to the level it has achieved. But neither were any of his other builds up to that point, Leroy's a good example too. I've really enjoyed following Cleeter and I'm super excited for the opportunity to have had a hand in helping him get there over the last seven years. The fact that Steve is getting that engine back and all the rods are still in it says a lot about the engineering that went into the SMX design from the start because Cleetus has a knack for freeing rods from captivity... a lot.

[@andreastimonen]

The firewall wizard has spoken 😃

[@almostthere2024]

😂😂😂 Freedom!!! Rods and all..😂

[@jesseroddick755]

Don’t you have an eagle to build?? Jk!! I agree with your statement

[@notsofresh8563]

"just tickled the rev limiter" is Cleeterspeak for at least 1000rpm over the redline. For a while.........at 60lbs of boost in a fat pig car.

[@timothywarehime5956]

can't wait for the next video from you guys. whoop

[@phillipnorth3428]

I'm grateful that Cletus introduced Steve Morris to me in his videos. I love the work that you do, how honest and transparent you are and I'm a HUGE fan!

[@robertpierce1981]

Same here. I watch all of Steve’s videos now as well as HED’s videos.

[@GrattonRacing]

There’s no issue. You build the best drag and drive engines. Proline builds arguably the best all out drag race engines. Different applications!

[@aneuryalgarin2175]

Exactly what garret said mullets will always be smx and Leroy Pete’s engines he’s not married to a brand so he does whatever he wants and people don’t get it 😂

[@Ole_CornPop]

​@@aneuryalgarin2175**SML**

[@Ole_CornPop]

​@@aneuryalgarin2175**SML**

[@cj09beira]

@@aneuryalgarin2175 imo the issue comes from the timing and him not at all addressing it after pulling down the video.

[@nitro2199]

@@cj09beira what video got pulled?

[@llamacebu216]

KSR Kevin said day 1 that mullet was too heavy, gonna cost 100 of thousands of dollars and its still gonna cause problems BUT thats what cleetus wanted

[@simon515]

I remember that. KSR Kevin did a hell of a job building the original Mullet. It was still never going to be the ultimate platform.

[@djhals0]

Speaking of that, it seems like they just forgot about Kevin.

[@dougn6465]

Which is exactly what most hobby racers do. They modify and race what they have.

[@ls_812]

​@@djhals0 I thinks it's more they both have their own lives with kids, responsibilities, Kevin runs his own shop, Cleetus has multiple irons in the fire. Just life..

[@thompardoe8303]

​@@ls_812and distance. They live hours away from each other.

[@glenbrannon7224]

Thanks for setting everything straight and showing us the full build, the rods make all the difference!

[@HerrStarcraft]

Props to Cleetus and Steve for keeping each other in the loop to avoid awkward surprises. Tells a lot about their character by the way they treat their partners.

[@overyonderjustapiece]

They both knew the shit storm of garbage that was going to happen before it even started. It has happened multiple times on Cleetus' channel, and bet your butt he already told Steve it was going to happen. If they weren't wanting it to happen, they would have released a video MONTHS ago about what all was coming up for both channels and to NOT start any bullshit because of it. But like Cleetus said, it has gotten BOTH channels a bump in video watching. So why not manipulate the soft skulls and get a few extra bucks from youtube monetization.

[@EASTSIDERIDER707]

And how they relate to employees and competition. Kevin Smith is another of the good guys. He is friends with an employee who (Drew) went to NASCAR.

[@sirmonkey1985]

@@overyonderjustapiece honestly even if they did you'd still have the casuals up in arms about it.

[@RustyWells2]

@@overyonderjustapiece Best comments out of all these comments thank god someone knows how KZbin works! And the soft skulls comment was mint!

[@Mittencarpentry]

People forget Cleetus makes content. Getting engines from different people adds to that. Everything used to be LS. He’s branched out and has engines from different builders and manufacturers. It adds to the channel. That is his job. Let’s also consider how long it would take to get engines rebuilt if he only used 1 builder. At the rate he blows up engines he would be waiting forever. Gotta spread it around.

[@overyonderjustapiece]

I would hope that dealing with ONE company, that they would have MULTIPLE backups sitting in the warehouse that are Cleetus' specifically. While Steve COULD do that, Cleetus isn't gonna drop $300k for 2 extra engines sitting in boxes at Steve's place IN CASE he breaks something. Texas Speed having a larger warehouse could do that if they chose to, or ship them to him to keep in the big ass barn where he keeps the toterhome across from the shop.

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

most of his engines still use the LS platform except for I believe Neighbor and Mcflurry and soon to be Eagle so it isn't like he abandoned the LS platform but you're 100% right about how it adds to the channel

[@Tony__O__Tony__O]

I think the biggest thing being overlooked is sponsorships. Cleet doesn't get free engines but he gets some sort of discount with the advertisement value from the views he gets. Steve can get him a scratch and dent SMX and a refurbed big block but if he built and reworked every single cleetus engine at a discount he'd never be able to complete his other customer engines that bring in more profit. One or two engines each at multiple engine builders and now he gets more discounts and a better chance of an emergency rebuild just once or twice a year. It's an everybody wins scenario.

[@MustYouHaveAUsername]

They use(d) LS for everything because they know the engine inside and out. But if he wants to keep progressing they have to step out of their comfort zone.

[@yeahok115sure]

Texas speed was the original OG, it's just the progression of racing. As the program gets more serious, so does the chassis and the engine. I don't hear anyone crying about mullets chassis. Which I might assume was built by any KZbin creator

[@CLCIII]

In my opinion, there is no engine builder that has more integrity than Steve Morris. He has always been 100% transparent and has gone above and beyond with customer service for not just Garrett, but many other customers as well! Steve is 100% liget in my book. As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇

[@tw06le1]

I don't care what the rumors say, I'm new to this detailed big block engine building scene- This Man, Steve Morris is an Absolute Legend! Yes, other engine builders exist, but my gosh!

[@ralre9825]

Love how wholesome steve is. I have no issues allowing my kid to watch the channel

[@iancunningham485]

Ol' Cleet just runs the best engine for the class he's running. That's why Pete Harrel engine in Leroy, Steve Morris engine in Mullet and Proline in Eagle! Best class engine for each respective class!

[@overyonderjustapiece]

If he was going to keep it, I say put the SMX in Leroy. But that ain't gonna happen since Steve bought it back.

[@jasonm3109]

I do think it would be neat to see leroy with the SMX though. I get it's a terrible idea, but it would be wild.

[@cajampa]

I was hoping they would put in a SML in the Eagle.

[@54raceman]

@@cajampaa ls based engine has about the same chance of surviving in a pro275 car as a blind donkey does winning the Kentucky derby

[@cajampa]

@@54raceman Ok why? I guess I have no idea what a pro275 car is then. I thought because they started on LS based engines is would suit them well to have an ulitmate version of a LS in the SML. Why would that not "survive". What is it that I am missing if you are so much better informed?

[@stevenallen4123]

No need to explain. You prove yourself day in and day out with your work!!! Keep at it!

[@ve3nsv]

If it wasn’t for Mullet’s big blocks, I would have never known about Steve Morris and his engines. Same as Texas Speed, Proline and HED. I’m happy to see the channel and the industry evolving thanks to the exposure of these engine builders.

[@805-TFX]

Well, I normally don't make comments on other machine shops repairs, but this was drawn to my attention about the repairs that were made on these cylinder heads for Garrett, @6:24, when you showed your work on the repair of the blend of the cylinder head combustion chamber, I noticed that there was a lot of pitting and excessive voids in the filler weld. This is a common issue when TIG welding aluminum material in a cylinder head (to bring back depth and height) when the main core is not heated to a specific temperature. From my experience, I had the best results when I stripped the cylinder head down to the bare core and placed it over a open flame at a low heat setting on a rack in a controlled fire box. I would let them slowly (cook) up to the specific heat that I wanted. ( It would take up to two days mostly ) But when it came time to do the repair welding, the end results were unnoticeable and a better product that didn't promote torching, especially under boost. Just food for thought.

[@seemssafe2995]

@@805-TFX 100% I get that it might not matter in this situation but I would feel a lot better with a good repair if it was my weld

[@DaveJMcGarry]

This is why i love this channel. Steve is as open and to the point as possible. Shows as much as he can failure or not. Keep up the great work Steve and team. Respect from the UK.

[@shammi8133]

I didn't know there was an issue, I mean engines break. It's kind of what racers, race cars, and engine builders do.

[@AB-80X]

I don't think many thought there was an issue. What many did not seem to like, was how Garrett ended that video after Sick Summer.

[@kylesorensen83]

​@AB-80X exactly my thoughts. People seemed to have taken that as a dig at Steve with how it was phrased.

[@KJ-kw7gh]

It’s just a bunch of armchair critics looking for anything to bitch about.

[@karlschauff7989]

Running the engine when it's down a cylinder has be really hard on the mains with all the weird harmonics that would be going on at those power levels. It's impressive that it didn't break worse honestly.

[@Freddy_Confetti]

@@AB-80XI mean all I see is people defending everything Cleetus does. It’s like yall work for him in the KZbin comment section

[@RJ_Cormac]

The timeline tells the truth, Garrett filmed the Proline HEMI video before Sick Summer! Garrett did not know the SMX heads were removable just like the Proline HEMI until after Steve drove out to help him with the lifters. Garrett & Steve were still working together after the Proline video was filmed, NO DRAMA!

[@ampedex]

Makes so much sense but most people won't put that amount of brain power to think about it sadly and we end up with this debacle

[@freedomfox8183]

No Garrett was right also... You can't take the heads off while the intake is on inside mullet there's not enough room... And anybody that's watched them work on it during a drag week should know that

[@JayMac]

Nope. The proline video was done last week. I knew the second he left the shop lol

[@WowCreativeUsername]

@@JayMac take your meds

[@JayMac]

@@WowCreativeUsername....... I literally got DMs immediately after he left from people who were there. Not everything is a lie 🤷‍♂️

[@chesa6795]

Steve is known throughout the world. You don't get that kind of notoriety without being a badass engine builder. Just because Cleet tried something different doesn't take anything from either one of them. Anyone notice Cleet has at least one of just about every manufacturer, now? Smart dude. He has something for everyone. Whether a GM, FORD, DODGE, or a TOYOTA fan, he has something that will appeal to your racing taste.

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

this

[@loganbarnert1397]

Dodge ?

[@Rancidtimes]

@@loganbarnert1397Yes Dodge, the Proline engine that's going into Eagle is a Hemi

[@Timberwolf69]

@@Rancidtimes As far as I am aware, the Hemi was a Chrysler thing at the beginning.

[@Rancidtimes]

@@Timberwolf69 Yes Chrysler, then shortly after (like a few years) they became Chrysler Dodge. Which came out with the Cuda to name just one of the many that show cased the Hemi, not a lot mind you but a few cars ended up with them.. Then it was an option to have one if it would fit..

[@paulboone44444]

Steve is wayyyy full of pride! ❤ I love the fact he defends the smallest thing when it comes to SME products. 👍

[@titanary68]

Oh and just for the record anyone that sends negative comments about any engine you build has zero clue nor the money to purchase your cheapest used engine. You are a legend, ultimate reliability and build quality. I’m a die hard Nelson guy and I honestly think you might just be more detail oriented than Tom is. Listening to you talk reminds me of the engineering class I probably should have paid more attention to.

[@ZagatoZee]

Cleetus uses his reach to raise the online profile of other shops. Be those chassis or engine builders, tuners or body workers, lawncare guys or concreters, helicopter maintence facilities or RC plane builders. There is no hate - just a guy having fun, spreading the love and building subscriber numbers for others. Not every tuner or engine builder offers a package for every car - doesn't mean bridges have been burned with everyone he has previously worked with.

[@AR-ed3xw]

Cleetus does it for discounts!

[@timnewburry3687]

@@AR-ed3xw not necessarily sometimes it just a good company and he hooks up like the lawn care nut doing rick Ross land

[@AR-ed3xw]

@timnewburry3687 I don't know what you mean with "rick Ross land" but even the first grass video it is mentioned he would get a discount for traffic to that guy's channel!

[@TheJerseyNinja]

@@AR-ed3xw and? Not everyone he works with is because of that, and it’s also extremely way more likely these companies give him a discount AFTER he reaches out to work with them and they find out who he is. Since they’re gonna be in his video and it’s basically like sponsoring him for the advertisement at that point. If he was only working with people who offered him discounts first, he wouldn’t be working with as good of companies as he does because some of these bigger name companies are already doing well themselves and don’t really actively look to reach out to people because they don’t really NEED to, but when someone as big as Cleetus comes knocking to use their product, it’s a no brainer on their end to work a deal with him

[@AR-ed3xw]

@TheJerseyNinja I guess you need to pay more attention before coming at someone with that huge paragraph of wrong! He literally gets discounts for view and like counts, as has been discussed! Yall cleetus d!c* riders really are something else!

[@PineyJustice]

It's funny, all the people saying cleet was ditching steve for "his old big block" while steve built it and is over here still rebuilding it. I guess these people also think a SMX is a direct competitor to proline.

[@seanfowler2560]

Ikr! The OG big block was the original plan

[@jaymiller393]

Just can’t fix stupid! 😂😅

[@JestaBl1tz]

Are you saying Proline is leagues above ? Proline is just like NIKE lol

[@Sainted1973]

@@JestaBl1tz did you watch sick week you clowns should buy knee pads cleetus acted like a bitch even after what steve did but you can buy it was planned only thing planned was on steves side getting his SMX back

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

@@JestaBl1tz you have no right to speak because they at least make engines while you sit here and act like every keyboard wielding wannabe mechanic who knows nothing

[@jasonH5997]

Its disappointing people speculate so much that you have to address the "issues" that dont exist. I mean watch the videos and enjoy. Clearly, racing is racing at this level theres no warranty. The fact that Steve does what he does for his customers is pretty frikkin awesome. Either way....im excited for the vids to come

[@spotonstupid]

Ultimately what I learn from Steve Morris videos is what a great guy he is. High class and all around awesome! Keep being you Steve.

[@1WAYBAD]

That little green Mustang, sure is making Cleet spend a lot of money 🤐

[@charlesfritz2540]

Hey Steve, it's really cool that you and Cletus work together the way you do. And you have nothing to explain. Your stuff is top-notch brother. Everybody knows that. Keep it going. God bless

[@Murda2615]

I really hate the internet sometimes and how people try to create issues and divide when they have no idea of what’s going on

[@ronjones-6977]

Before the internet, you only had to deal with that one asshole in your group of friends. Now, ALL the ass-hats can irritate everyone in the world. Isn't technology great?

[@Freddy_Confetti]

⁠I mean all I see is people defending everything Cleetus does. It’s like yall work for him in the KZbin comment section

[@Murda2615]

@@Freddy_Confetti no but the guy is free to do as he pleases. Neither of them should have to make a video explaining anything. Whats there to defend he did nothing wrong lol that’s the whole point of it.

[@audreyleithes2994]

I hate that steve feels he has to justify anything to subscibers garrett & all racers know they are pushing the limits with engines no one does more than Steve morris for his customers being constantly under the spot light can be uncomfortable but it is the price you pay being on "U" tube he is a great guy lets get behind him not try and cause trouble.

[@carsonklundt8748]

At 27:50 I’m so glad to see Steve deal with the same shit i do on a daily basis😂

[@Psioon]

I can swear that i heard Cleet say that he may have hit 9,5k rpm on the SMX a couple of times, a couple of times/events. So in my book that SMX you built is on it's 3-6th life. I love Cleet and it has much to do that i like him stepping over some boost/rpm boundrys. He's has the heart of a discoverer, no matter what the cost will be!! I also love your vids Steve since I'm no longer able to job on engines as I loved to back in time. Work hard, stay happy!

[@johnsimons6748]

People always are looking for the drama when there is none. So great that men Like Cleetus and Steve are way above that and do what real men do. Dealing with a problem and work it out like men. And racing will always create problems because both racers and builders always push the envelope. That's what gives us awesome motorsports. ❤👍💪 much respect for both these men!

[@Bricklinsv1970]

I like the honesty from Steve that carries a lot of weight in my books. Dont forget Engines all eventually break that's a guarantee.

[@DrSteele24]

I love your integrity Steve. Always upfront about everything. People need to stop drawing conclusions like a 14 year old kid,

[@ManiacRacing]

Hardest part about being a big youtuber is dealing with some of the comments. Personally I never once felt like Cleetus was abandoning you or mad about anything. He knows exactly why it broke. Lol! Like you said, the right tool for the job.

[@JestaBl1tz]

Cleet and Steve would not see 99.9% of these comments.

[@allieandbo]

Yeah...doing donuts in Mullet. I love ole Cleet as much as the next guy but he does some really dumb stuff sometimes. He'll blow that Proline before too long too. Virtually guaranteed.

[@bradshowler8737]

I’ve been in the trade working on engines for over 30 years. I’ve learnt lots from your videos. Keep up the great work. You’re an awesome builder. Keep up with the awesome videos Steve even if I learn something small it’s worth the watch.

[@soundsofnature7015]

Appreciate the detailed explanation. Never did I doubt your craftsmanship and brand. You are a solid dude Steve with an amazing amount of knowledge and a fantastic product. Keep teaching us and I will be glad to keep learning. Keep up the great work brother.

[@chloehennessey6813]

I figured it was a class thing. The SMX is tough as heck, we saw it run a high 6 with cracked mains and down a piston.

[@kingrabbit101]

I made this exact comment on cleetus’s video. You make drag and drive motors. High hp motors for drag and drive cars. Not trailer queens that get pushed to the line and towed back to the trailer. People don’t understand tho because they arent car guys or know anything

[@pearlbluesoul]

aah, new this would be coming. Any time Cleet makes some move up the chain in the industry, there's this thing that happens where people get weird about it. New goals, new problems, new solutions. 's all in the game.

[@Greg-h7l]

I don't know where the beef started. It's nobody's business other than Cletus and Steve's. Steve has been nothing but honest and reputable from the beginning every video of watched. Some people just have to have drama in their life or they don't have anything at all. Keep doing what you guys are doing it's fun to watch also very educational. Thank you both 😊😊😊😊

[@bobbendt1698]

Sweet. Great to see you guys had it all planned. I was wondering about the SMX in Mullet and you hit it on the head, that engine just was destroying that car. The Brodix was a great runner in that car. Thanks for the updates. Now to decide what merch I need.

[@Dont-come-at-me-24]

The engine failed due to lack of maintenance. Not that it was built poorly or poor workmanship. Steave has been 100% open on this engine since day 1 and he’s been there every time Cleetus has had an issue with it as it’s great info for R&D. People forget mullet was meant to be a jet car and the engine was just to help get it around and up to speed for top speed run

[@Jules_73]

Ablative material on the pistons? Steve’s building space shuttles over there!

[@guyonabuffalo100]

Steve, the average viewers are ignorant of how engines and things really work.

[@Edizzle15]

Most of Garrett’s fan are ignorant to just about everything.

[@chicago_race_engines7538]

Nah just fanboys like you never heard of anything outside of the smx. Do you see any smxs in any real pro mods? Nah but you see a lot of prolines

[@majorrev8690]

@@chicago_race_engines7538 To run an SMX exclusively at the track is not the smartest way to use that engine. To use a 481X as a drag n drive engine is equally ignorant.

[@chicago_race_engines7538]

@@majorrev8690 agree

[@brysonfields2284]

That's meth'ed up man!

[@BobbiDazzler]

Me and my wife love watching your channel Steve. We knew exactly what you were going to say as soon as we saw the title of this vid. You’re the best at what you do period. People just like to dramatise stuff and speculate. Cleet has been talking about how the SMX was wasted in mullet for a long time. Too much engine for that chassis. Mullet is a difficult car to fit into any category. We are just amazed that Cleet couldn’t actually blow up an engine that you already did. 😂

[@darrenlohiser8930]

Well as a guy that has been racing, Cletus is not easy on any of his racing motors, I was very impressed that you dropped everything to see if you could help him out. I have never heard of a racing motor with a warranty. I just wish I could afford one of your engines .

[@matthewmccormick2417]

Being Mullet with SMX was dry sump will he be going dry sump on the BBC now? Thanks for another great Video Steve Sir. The BBC sounds beautiful like a SME piece of ART as always

[@strykerentllc]

No, you can clearly see the wet sump pump and pan when Kyle was assembling it in this video.

[@geniferteal4178]

​@@strykerentllcWhat about the g forces? Including when he stops at the top end.

[@strykerentllc]

@@geniferteal4178 That's a question only the giraffe can answer. He knows the limits and shortcomings of the BBC so...

[@ToxicMrSmith]

Why are all these comments talking about big black cocks? Whole lotta gay up in here /s

[@AB-80X]

@@geniferteal4178 That engine and many other engines live under those conditions. I think Mullet is headed for a class that is less hard on things than Unlimited, Back to being a small tire car I guess.

[@robertjohnson4784]

Hey Steve I was watching your videos before Cleetus was a customer I always thought you had a great personality and definitely a great engine builder love what you do bro

[@robertveeneman9229]

I was going to comment on one of CJRC's vids that ProLine didn't do drag and drive engines, but I wasn't 100% sure, so I kept my mouth shut. Thank you for the confirmation in my thinking.

[@JohnRichardson-ny3jv]

Proline is a solid block no water. start it up down the track and shut it off.

[@54raceman]

They do drag and drive engines just not very many and for very few people

[@yjkader]

They’ll do it if you ask them to, but different builders become known for different niches, usually unintentionally too

[@SourBogBubble]

Dude money gets you anything, don't be ignorant.

[@robertveeneman9229]

@@SourBogBubble Your comment is just as ignorant to me, as mine is to you. Who runs a Proline in drag and drive? I genuinely don't know, and seem like you can inform me.

[@wrxelectra]

It is amazing to see the drama some people like to imagine going on. It never entered my head that there would be any kind of issue between you both. Like you said you hinted many times at the fact you were repairing the big block to go back in Mullet I mean what would do you need to say. And it was also quite obvious that the SMX was breaking mullet apart. Crazy that you have to explain yourself to some people. Keep up the great work Steve always a please to get educated on anything engine wise by yourself.

[@mikeoverby2232]

STEVE, you and your Family all seem like great people. I see how well you work with people I have worked with Garrett. There were some issues with my shipping address and I was assuming it was your wife actually sent my shirt back to me two times because something happened on my end with the address so 100% props to her 100% props to you for being straight up good people 100% agree the old engine is better for bullet. He should turn Mullet into a 7.50-8.50 vehicle. work I’m trying to make a consistent and It can probably run 1000 passes and never break while running at 70% to 80% if it’s true capability. Take care, buddy, God bless and be safe!!!!

[@davidcyrus3581]

As for the SMX that was in Mullet. Harmonics do really weird things. I don’t think it was a fault of Steve or Cleet. It was just one of those weird engine things

[@kb9oak749]

Cleetus is hard on equipment. Not a shocker. That Proline may live a long life, but then Cleetus....Also, Mullet and Eagle are two different cars in two different applications.

[@AB-80X]

It will be interesting to see. Seems like many feel that maintenance is not one of Garrett's strong points. And that Proline really needs love and care to stay alive.

[@MattyEngland]

I've still got $100 on him starting the proline without oil before a few months are out 😂

[@krazeemazee]

given the rate that the NPK guys go thru proline engines.... it wont be long at all before cleet finds some limitations..... looking forward to it

[@jackjaxon5165]

Steve cutting open the filter and knocking his tools repeatedly everywhere is pure comedy gold. Unfortunate, I now need to clean up the coffee I spat out while laughing 🤣

[@ENOCK360]

Hands down my favorite fitting t-shirts. I love how soft they are and the fit in the sleeves that show off your work at the gym.

[@durdenracing1]

Steve , when cutting an oil filter open for inspection are you not cutting the paper off the steel insert to actually check it where the flow of oil catches the particles from inside out ?I was always told the filter flows from center out . Therefore just looking at the outside of the filter paper itself isn’t always the best way . We of coarse always block the bypass so ALL oil runs through the filter to help prevent more damage on a race engine if bearing failure does happen . Great video 👍

[@breakupgoogle]

do people not understand the difference between drag vs drag and drive?

[@r4hillman]

No I really think they don’t. I think alot of fans of these channels don’t know much about racing other than what they have learned through the channels, which is fine but it’s something ive noticed

[@cliff4695]

There's still a bunch of people thinking eagle will be a drag a and drive car. You can't make this up 😆

[@DonPablo2011]

NOPE!!🙄

[@JonHop1]

Last time I checked, Steve doesn't only do drag and drive, even tho it's his specialty.

[@lazylion420]

I certainly don't know.. I'm a musician and music producer who dabbles in automotive youtube because I enjoy working on my old Firebird but I don't race it either.. I can still guess; does drag imply that it's strictly a trailer car that runs on the track? while drag n drive implies a car that is still street legal and able to get around without a trailer?

[@byronjones6155]

What about a "cleetus still loves me" shirt!!

[@Rvordont]

When you run a few thousand hp shit breaks , but the research that Steve has put into the smx is unreal to think an engine of that power level can be driven state to state and still put a car into the 5s is pure wizardry

[@MrJamesBanana]

Just a thought about the preheating on the engines mentioned at roughly 11:30 . For the engines with water cooling, you can get a Calix Forced Circulation Heater which will heat the engine to 230°F. They also have contact heaters in case you want to run it dry, or insertion heaters (Which needs to run wet) in case the customers might want to pre-heat the engines.

[@digdugbingo]

I remember when the SMX actually warped the quarter panels because the rocker panels twisted. It's snapped more suspension welds and strengthening welds than I can count. It also had to have a strengthening plate added to the front of the motor. I don't think the El Camino was built to handle so much power. Let's not forget, it was still running in the low 7's on only six cylinders without detonating the block... Somehow?

[@tomeickhorst6787]

So the scratch and dent SMX is going in to the new Camero that Kevin is building for you and Val

[@warrenmichael918]

I dont think it is, but we will see.

[@matthewtaylor3308]

38:52 Socket goes flying into Narnia behind the toolbox - you’ll never see that one again…

[@warrenmichael918]

It most likely hit the floor and rolled out right under his feet.

[@TheOriginalDaveJ]

Wouldn't be a 10mm would it😂

[@markoshark4697]

@@TheOriginalDaveJ Na, Steve doesn't build with 10mm. Knows that the 10mm is always gone :p

[@savage069]

0:03 Excellent point.

[@MRDEEGAMING]

23:39 thebolt on the right under the red an fitting looks like its out but probably meant to look like that didnt get to see the left side although at 23:45 that one looks seated

[@teresaharmon4405]

I have been saying the same thing on both of your Facebook. If there was a problem Steve would not have dropped everything to take parts to Cleet. They both have hints in there video's that the engine was not the best fit for that car. You can't take a 410 World of Outlaws motor and put it in a drag car and vise versa and expect them work work well. Love the Derek from Vice Grip Garage reference on the shirt. As soon as you held that up I was thinking the same thing!

[@s2upid]

People should put the time & effort they used on worrying about a KZbinr's + engine builder's business relationship into their own project.

[@TidyBananas]

797 N/A on the first pull! Very nice

[@josecaparroso577]

Its a shame that people still dont understand racing...when you push hard things break! ...Steve is an awesome enginer builder ...proven ....the fact both of them have to give explanation to yal inst what some of us are here for...we love the content ...fast cars and amazing engines...keep it up Steve love the content.

[@riduanismani1428]

@Steve Morris Engines i have a really great idea of the whole turbo charging the engine on a different way no one ever has done it, it removes turbo lag, it removes turbo manifold piping, reduces alot back pressure, and i think it should make more power if you want i want to share my info and it should 100% work in my opinion, i dont want to share it just in case its gamechanging.

[@brianmaninger2612]

If I ever win the lottery, I’m buying two (SMX)’s one for my 68 Chevelle, one for my living room!!

[@skinburn24]

Thanks for the explanation about Garrett and the engines. I think the fans were missing the context in the beginning of this whole debacle.

[@cdbennett2332]

This

[@warrenmichael918]

I watched the end of that video and watched the comments right after that go goofy. I didnt think anything was out of line or negative towards Steve or the SMX, people just love to talk crap and try to start drama.

[@scotthultin7769]

138 👍's up Steve Morris thank you for sharing 🤗

[@austerityclause]

Hey Steve, I just wanna drop in and say thank you. I received a piston with a broken end of connecting rod from mullets SMX. I never win anything. This is sweet. It is now a hiboy ornament. Y'all are the greatest. The bragging FB post has already been made. Thanks again.

[@patricktrous]

i would still watch Steve's channel even if cleet up and quit!

[@helpallofem4428]

I don't even watch Cleetus's channel.

[@Turbogto_guy]

@@helpallofem4428it’s a fun channel to watch. I love the shenanigans. If you are a serious type person with no sense of humor, don’t bother watching.

[@AB-80X]

@@helpallofem4428 On a rare occasion I do. But I was here 10+ years ago.

[@JamesTK]

I kept watching cos Steve's wagon is AWESOME

[@danielwilson6665]

Cleetus is nothing more than an irresponsible fool with absolutely zero integrity or talent. His only claim to fame is the way he quickly destroys excellent equipment and charms his followers into thinking that he’s somehow special, rather than the no talent bum that he is.

[@latemnf]

Steve has been to Proline, he was gonna put his application in but they don't machine any of their stuff there lol, they outsource everything.

[@michaelwynne4346]

Alan Johnson

[@RobertKohut]

There goes the 10mm socket.... LOL :-) @27:53

[@ianf2985]

What you’re doing is basically cutting edge anyway so you will continue to rock & roll! You are a truly stand up guy!

[@andrewperlmutter8854]

We love both of you. It truly says a lot of your character that you brought parts to help him and fix the engine.

[@johnlincoln4616]

So there’s no beef with this Garrett guy, but what about with cleetus😆

[@scroob72]

Lol...Steve and Cleet got you all chomping at the bait! :D

[@nitro2199]

it's "champing at the bit"

[@yeost187]

Yeah, except neither Cleet, nor Steve, produced any bait. Its all just made up controversy from loons, who need drama, even if they need to make it up. You know, the same type of people, who need to make everyone around them unhappy, just because they are.

[@JonHop1]

I don't know when it changed, but Cleets fans are a bunch of weirdos. Probably all crybaby liberals. Cleets fanbase in the early days were all level headed traditional dudes.

[@KJ-kw7gh]

@@nitro2199It’s either one.

[@davecaresforyou7606]

You are one of the most awesome men I’ve seen in the build game

[@ayzoidz2651]

@@davecaresforyou7606 he's been in the engine game for a long long long time

[@edspaetzel8836]

I really like the hear re-torque that you guys do. Will be doing the same on my next 2 engines.

[@billdixon823]

I know Steve could build an engine that you can hit the 1/4 mile 25 times and refresh but why would he he has been 5’s with his engines and that’s what cleetwants however if you notice cleet likes having different engines in the fleet keeps everyone on there toes and that’s the diversity of the channel part of why everyone loves him

[@0-do0bido0bido0b-0]

People are looking for drama. Hopefully this will clear the air forever.

[@crypticchris8812]

SMX IN THE DALE TRUCK PLZ don’t buy it back yet

[@Turbogto_guy]

That’s what I was thinking is going to be done with it. It’s still possible

[@philb5593]

Stupidly overkill. LS makes way more sense.

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

he's not doing the SMX in the Dale truck so stop

[@crypticchris8812]

@@theunhingedgamer3762 we can always dream 💭

[@Turbogto_guy]

@@theunhingedgamer3762 you stop.

[@donaldhalls2189]

When your pushing the engines to the max PLUS 😂 something is going to brake,😢 but you guy's are in the position to rectify anything, and improve them,your doing a great job, excellent engines, thanks for sharing, all the best to yous and your loved ones

[@Oxymoron1983]

Anyone that believes there is a “problem” with Steve and garrett smx/bbc swap doesn’t understand racing or race cars…. Mullet chassis wasn’t designed for an smx, and yes there is different chassis designs for different engine/power adder combos. If u been watching eagle build u would know that. There is no problem between them guys. Different goals need different combos. Now, eagle is getting a proline mh1 - definitely not a drag and drive engine like the smx is. It would be like 187 customs putting a water jacketed engine in murder nova - it wouldn’t work for his end goals. Both engines are bada$$ it’s just that they’re used differently I am so glad garrett introduced us to Steve morris. Such an awesome laid back, knowledgeable guy that has a great understanding of how to teach us how things are done 👍

[@RacePhreak]

ProLine discussion at 29:18

[@twanospano5293]

So what you're saying is, you two are enemies and there will be a PPV fight on Freedom+? CLEETUS VS STEVE - Winner gets a Tesla, a real car.

[@joecook3223]

😆😆 yep 100% happening, start putting down your bets lol

[@FRENZY355]

It was the way in which Cleetus ended his Sick Week video. His poor communication, the tone in which he said it caused all the drama. Compounded with all the maintenance and mechanical drama leading up the engine issue, it inferred he was moving on and wasn't happy

[@Nick210]

Yup. All in the wording. There’s no drama. I find it interesting that he doesn’t recognize he said something upsetting because he’s never gotten anywhere near this level of backlash, if any in his entire career.

[@stephenhood2948]

Cleetus never said this, as you said, people inferred it. Obviously Cleetus wasn't happy, but he didn't trash Steve in any way. We know what they say about assume.

[@MKdefends]

I was wondering about the engines and builders relations, I knew it was going to handled, DIALED , Oh mylanta !! Can't wait to see the next Drag and Drive. Thank you, Steve Morris for clearing it up, Mullet had a great time with your SMX and had to be toned down alot to handle that engine. I watched every run and it was so hard to keep the tires from spinning at each event. Wrong type of body style, El Camino frame isn't going to cut it. I wonder what CSR fabrications learned about this type of body style and HP ? I follow CSR also going to check on his cannel, Great stuff you all we are learning something.

[@dantaylor1224]

Cleetus has brought so much to each and every shop he works with. It's amazing to see exposure from so many people he works with and we get to see so much cool stuff along the way

[@triplehfarmsllc7348]

Not gonna lie as a business owner I’d never do business with Garrett and it’s all because of his so called fans. They act like they know something about drag racing and Garrett destroying everything he drives and uses and then his so called fans attack whoever it be he is using in that vehicle. They are really screwing him over because people are gonna stop having his as customer or wanna sponsor him because of backlash they might get because people don’t know crap about making horsepower and go attacking businesses blaming them saying it’s all their fault Garrett destroys every engine or part he uses. Because the last thing Garrett does is take it easy on anything and the lack of maintenance is even worse. And when we destroys something here comes his group of no nothing fans bashing a business and company/brand. The internet shouldn’t speak for anyone or anything they don’t own themselves let alone afford or have never ran. Is simple

[@JestaBl1tz]

They all love the attention he BRINGS. And as you said, when it brakes its usually his fault lol

[@Le3eFrereBrunet]

Break = Drama = more rumors = more comments = closer it gets to it being viral = more views and more sponsorship money…. There is no money (business) like show business…

[@KJ-kw7gh]

You’d do business with him in a heartbeat if given the chance😂

[@philb5593]

It's a double-edged sword. You get tons of free advertising and tons of new customers wanting to have the same stuff Cleetus does, but you have to deal with all the keyboard warriors (who will never buy an engine like this) trash talk you.

[@brandonburdette7895]

​@@KJ-kw7ghyeah he would he be like where do I sign

[@jooka2010]

"issue" 😅 Steve out here milking it

[@whit3chick3n]

Im not even mad about it, steves content is good

[@Ole_CornPop]

Hey, it works. 😂

[@MB-mx7vz]

It is an issue for a bunch of the knobheads on KZbin, judging by the comments

[@crypticchris8812]

Nah I think it was needed because people are quick to assume the worst when nothing even happened. It’s easier just to address it so it doesn’t destroy your business.

[@whit3chick3n]

@@crypticchris8812 i dont think he is in any sort of risk of business damage, most folks are not going to buy a steve morris engine, and the ones who are, understand.

[@guyonabuffalo100]

Ba bam